Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 504 - Diana Cheated on her Husband and Now They Have an Open Relationship
Episode Date: July 11, 2022Diana cheated on her husband and now they have an open relationship and she called in to talk all about it. When and why did she cheat on her husband? How did he find out? And, how did they get past i...t? Tune in. To find out plus hear all her hook-up with a students father and exactly what went down including fisting, ben wa balls and more, how and why she told her husband about her infidelity and how he reacted, his infidelity he copped to and how she handled it, her left over feelings from that betrayal and how that might still be affecting her, their foursome they had before they had kids, all the kinky things her and her husband are into including bdsm, how the decided to open up their relationship, the couple they met and who hooked up with, how her husband reacted the first time she hooked up with a guy without him, her husbands co-worker she’s trying to set him up with, her cuckqueen fantasies, her previous hook-ups with women, how they are navigating the bumps in the road they have encountered since opening up their marriage and a whole lot more. To follow her on instagram @ladydiana_waters To see an anonymous pics of Diana + see anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Now let's talk about Diana.
She is on the episode this week, the podcast this week.
she's my guest this week.
And her story is super interesting
because it starts off with like her cheating on her husband
with, it's like a student's father.
I don't know when the shit they did is a little off the chain
or off the charts off the chain.
What's the fucking, what's the expression?
It's pretty crazy.
She gets into that experience,
that cheating experience of what they did.
And then she felt, you know,
was very guilty about it.
So she told her husband.
And then he told her.
oh yeah, I cheated on you.
And we talk all about like they're cheating and how they worked through all of that stuff to get to the point where they're at now, which is they have an open relationship.
She calls it a poly relationship.
They currently don't have relationships with other people, but they're down for it.
They're also down for a lot of other things.
They had foursomes before they had babies.
They go to play parties now.
And she talks all, you know, she gets into the details about all that kind of kinky stuff they do.
They're into BDSM.
like I said, play parties.
She has hooked up with other people.
And, you know, she talks honestly about how her guy felt about that the first time that it was like, you know, a thing that they did without each other.
And he wasn't that into it at first.
And so when we talk, like I said, a lot about that, you know, their struggles with opening up their relationship.
And she talks about how they have weathered all of that.
all the little bumps in the road that they've gone through while opening, you know,
before they opened it up, after they opened it up, as well as like what she's down for in the future.
She's a cock queen.
She loves to see her guy with other women.
And she's like pushing him towards it.
Okay.
He hasn't been able to seal the deal because he's a little picky.
But she's down for all that.
And she talks about that kind of stuff.
You know, what she really is looking for all the kinky stuff she's into.
She's a little bit of an exhibitionist.
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I'm going to be right back on with Diana.
Hi, Diana.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
How are you today?
I'm doing great.
How are you?
I'm doing really good, Diana.
So I don't remember where I heard from you.
Maybe you left a comment somewhere or something.
thing, but you were like, oh, I don't know, you just gave me one little story, and I was like,
I was about you being like a teacher and you having an affair.
I don't know if it was an affair, don't tell me yet, or a one-time thing, or a one-time thing
with, like, the father of, like, triplets, who were your students?
So it wasn't with a student and it wasn't anything, you know, fucking illegal.
It was your students.
It was your student's father.
Correct.
Yes, it was.
Now, you also happened to be married, too, correct?
Yes, I am.
So you not only were cheating with the, like, you know, that guy.
Was he married?
No, he was not married.
So you were cheating yourself on your husband with this guy.
Yes, there was a lot of background to it.
But yes, I had a one-time fling with this father that more or less, like,
my anxiety afterwards like ate at me so I I talked to my husband the very next day which that in turn led into a very deep conversation with my husband and I am fast forward that was 2018 fast forward to now we're no polyamorous oh when was that
that whole thing was back in 2018 oh okay oh right but let's start
there because that's kind of interesting, right? So, yeah, yeah. How does, how does the hook of go? Like,
how do you wind up sleeping with the father of her students? I mean, like, every time he came in for
parent-teacher conference, there was, like, chemistry or something? Or, like, how does that happen?
Well, like, so where I works, like, he was never, like, directly the parents of one of my
students but like his students were in the classrooms that I was involved in so I would see him and like I knew he was
single I knew he had like just gone through divorce he was a teacher himself so during the summers
when we would take the kids like because we also run like a summer camp program he would bring the kids
and like you know chatting everything we we got to know each other on like a friendly level and I guess
conversations just kind of they amped up really.
really quickly at one point. And within a couple days, I was, I was playing with them. Okay. So,
you know, how did, now, was that going to be like the first time in your marriage that you crossed the
line and cheated on your husband? Or were you cheating with other people before that? So, no,
that was the very first time I cheated on my husband. Prior to that, like before we had kids,
My husband and I, like, we had a four-way with friends of ours.
We're like very into BDSM, like very, very kinky people.
But I don't know, life.
Life was just kind of in a weird patch for me at that point.
And I was like, you know what?
We've talked in the past about being Polly.
We've talked in the past about opening things back up.
I'm just going to forge ahead and do it.
And I did.
Without telling him, you know that that's not really the same thing.
Yeah.
I know that's really not the same thing.
That's why I told him because my anxiety like got to me.
And I had to tell him.
And I was like, okay, if this is something that I really want, like, I've never been the one to want to be monogamous ever.
I've just kind of always kept that to myself.
And I was like, if I want this, if I want my marriage and I need to do this the right way and I fucked up this one time, but I need to make things better.
Right, right.
Now let's start a little bit.
Okay, so let's tell me this story about the guy.
Like, was it a hot experience?
Oh, my God.
It was so hot.
And like, I'm a little embarrassed to say I'm still kind of friends with this guy to
to this day on a very, like, restricted boundaries level.
Mm-hmm.
But one of the things he does is work with metal.
So he, he had made a pair of, like, mid-evil looking handcuffs.
Mm-hmm.
And he had messaged me a picture of them.
And he's like, oh, do you like these?
I'm like, oh, of course I like those.
Like, those are freaking gorgeous.
Like, I'm an artist and an element myself.
So, like, aside from wanting to be put in them, I was like, that's just amazing work.
And so he had told me, he's like, well, that's bad because by the end of the night,
I'm going to have you in a pair of it in them and on your knees.
So, you know, I was just gushing of that.
I was so, of course.
So I went to his house.
His kids were home.
They were with his wife.
He had his own house.
He's very active in the local kink community to where he lives.
And so he was like negotiating his team with me.
He's like, what are you open to doing?
What are you looking to get out of this?
And like we kind of had our like verbal breakdown of what he was into, what he wanted, what I wanted.
And so we're like, okay, well, let's go the basement.
Let's go play.
It started with just both of us getting completely undressed.
He has a massage table in his basement.
So massaged him down, followed his instructions because I was super new at it.
I was like, I need to give you a good massage.
But my God was so good.
Massaged him down for a while we played a bit on the table.
And then he's like, okay, well, you had your fun with me.
I'm going to have my friend with you.
In his basement, he had like a drop ceiling and he revealed, like, he pushed up one of the panels
and revealed like a restraint system he had.
Oh, my goodness.
That was a good hiding spot.
Right?
Such a good hiding spot.
So he brought it down and he's like, I'm going to strike you in this.
And he gave me like all the safe words and everything.
And he goes, no matter what you do, no matter what I do, I want you to keep these in you.
And he put in a pair of like Benoit balls in me.
Oh, Benoit balls.
Yes.
So.
How are those?
What the,
I've never had those before.
Are they good?
They are so much fun, honestly.
It's like you're into like experiencing different like sensory things.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
They are so much fun.
Yeah.
So he put them in me and he's playing with me and he's don't let them drop.
So I'm just like holding them in there as tightly as I can.
And I, like, he plays with me.
I don't realize he's coming.
out of the scene and he puts his fingers up there to try and get them out. And I still think he's
playing and I'm like holding them as tightly as I can. And he never tells me to release them.
So I'm like, okay, he's playing. He's still trying to get them. He's just making sure I keep them in
there. And then like he fists me. Oh, wow. Was that a first time for you? Or had, because you said you were
kinky with your husband before. Yeah, yeah. I was kinky. I'm.
kinky with my husband, but I like, and I like the idea of stretching, but I was honestly scared.
I, to this day, I still don't know how much of his hand he got inside me, but he got the balls
out. We'll just say, he got those balls out. And I was like, it was painful. And I'm like,
I'm just like talking to him, talking through it. And I'm like, okay, this is a lot. This is a lot.
And I'm like, he's talking. And he's like, are you okay? You're sure you want to continue?
I know that was a lot for you. I'm like, yeah, I'm fine.
And then I look down and I literally have blood dripping down my leg.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
Thankfully, there was a yoga mat underneath me because he had white carpeting.
But yeah, it was awful.
So I was still determined I'm like, this man has not come yet.
I'm going to push through this.
You're a team player.
I really am a team player.
And I was like, this is my first time not like going out of the bounds with from my husband.
And like, I'm here for a reason.
I'm doing it.
I got it.
So, he's like,
are you going to continue?
I know you're bleeding.
Like, we can stop right now.
It's totally fun.
I'm like, no, I'm here for this.
I'm here for this.
He's like, okay, fine, here we go.
Puts me in my knees, puts me in those handcuffs, and I finish them off.
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Are you typically a sub because you said you and your husband did some BDSM before?
Yeah, I call myself a switch, but I find myself very much more in a sub role.
It's just honestly, historically been more natural for me.
As I'm getting a little bit older, I'm finding myself a little bit more wanting to be a bit more topy,
a bit more of a domino-matrix.
But yes, I do go sob very easily.
So now you have this whole experience with this guy.
When you're done, do you feel like I said, you said you felt like super anxious and stuff?
And then you told your husband right the next day?
Yes.
Because like it was while it was an experience that, yes, I bled, it was such a fun experience
for me that I was like, I need more of this.
I feel safe with this person.
I want to explore.
more with them. And so I was like, hey, like my husband and I had a whole conversation that evening.
I was like, I want to explore this. This is really something I'm into. It was a hard conversation for him.
In that conversation, he revealed to me that two years prior, he had, while I was pregnant with our second child, he had had an affair.
In my brain, I was like, okay, so monogamy really is off the table.
All of that. I went through a very angry phase with him.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
No, but just what did he specifically tell you?
Because an affair, how long did that affair last?
So that affair actually had taken place while we were still living in the state of Rhode Island.
Just prior to giving birth to my daughter, we had moved from Rhode Island to Michigan and actually
caught him.
This woman had messaged him.
And I was like, what is this?
What is this all about?
And he was able to lie his way through it.
And I believed him.
So when we moved to Michigan, she was secretly one of his reasons why he was so eager to move.
Aye.
He wanted to end things with her.
And she was going through some mental health things.
Oh, he wasn't moving towards her.
He wanted to move the fuck away from her because she was going to bust up his scene.
Oh, no. Oh, my God. Yeah. He was, like, he was feeling extremely guilty over his affair. Yeah. Like, he wanted to end it. Like, he already had a kid. He already had a kid on the way. We had a lot of stuff going on. So we were like, okay, we're moving in Michigan. We moved to Michigan. I have the kid. And I start the job teaching. And that's where I need to get.
But how long, though, was he banging that woman behind your back? Did he get to cop to how long it was?
It was a couple months.
Okay.
So now when he tells you're slightly devastated because you feel like this was more of a betrayal
because it was when you were pregnant and he was dating.
Yes.
And I literally caught him and he lied his way through it.
Like he looked you in the face and told you massive lies.
And here you are telling him like the next day.
This is what I did.
Yes.
We had played in the past.
I feel like if he had told me that she had was someone that he was interested in play,
with. Yeah. I would have been completely fine with it. Okay, you have physical needs. I'm not
really able to meet them right now. I'm pregnant. You have your own stuff going on. Whatever. That
would have been fine. But the fact, like, he did it the way he did was like, okay, I was a good life
to you up until the affair. After that point, I was like, I'm sorry, I'm getting emotional.
Just you're living in a little bit. Yeah, because it's interesting because you guys are like in a
happy place now. I was just thinking while you're telling me this, that part of the story that you guys are
so past it in a happy place. So at least we know this, you guys do work through it. But it's interesting that
there's still some feelings attached to that time. And I could totally understand it. I could understand
that. Yeah. It was a terrible emotional time for us. But I will say in meeting the teacher, he introduced me to
a lot of other kinky people in the community where we live in Michigan.
So I started making more friends in the community.
And I started reading books like the ethical sluts, opening up more than two.
So I really took like the educated approach of this is something I want from my marriage.
I need to do it ethically and not fuck things up.
And what was his way of getting out of?
of what he did. What was his
reason? If I was talking to him, what
was going on with him at that time
that made him do something that was so
I would assume out of character
for him and have an affair?
He still won't talk to me
about that. What do you mean? We've tried
having conversations in the past
and I always feel like
it was because physically
I wasn't looking the way
he found in a child. Yeah, you're pregnant. Maybe he's not
into pregnant checks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
he was 100% not under
pregnant chicks, I was horny, he wouldn't fuck me.
Yeah, some guys are weirded out
by that because there's a baby. There's a lot of different.
Some guys love it. You know, everybody's different.
Exactly. Exactly. So he
wouldn't fuck me. And I was like, all right.
So I wasn't fucking you. I was doing everything else. I'm a good mom.
I provide everything else for you. But I just wasn't fucking. Is that
what it was for you? And he's like, no, that's not what it is. And it hurts that you make
it come to that level. But he never. Actually, I'm sorry. But if I was your friend,
that would be the best level that it would be.
then it was just a fucking fuck, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's what it, that level could be a very sort of logical level about why someone
would do that because he still had needs, right, that needed to be met.
But he, for some reason, he couldn't do that.
So he just had to get sex someplace because he couldn't get it from you.
Because whatever was going on with him, like his own issues with thing.
Exactly.
So we never really explained it or he just maybe doesn't understand it himself.
Yeah, he's working through a lot of stuff in his own mental well-being for himself.
So in time, maybe I'll find out.
Maybe I won't, but it's the past now.
Not really.
Listen, you guys are still together, but the fact that you, when you talk about it now,
I'm just going to say that it still brings up some sadness in you, which is totally
normal, like I said, means there might be stuff in there that you still need to work on.
So I would suggest always trying to get to his.
truth and maybe that will help. Yeah, I completely agree. We're both going to counseling.
Finances are crazy right now, but we are both working on our own, our own shit to work out why
we've done what we've done in the past to be better for each other. But you, so you only
have that one time that you cheated on. We're going to get quickly to the good stuff because maybe
I'm bringing everyone down. But this stuff, you can't just like, I don't know, it's a part of your
story and it's a big part because. Oh, it's huge. How is a couple that had a very big bump in the
road that it seems like you guys haven't yet got over it and you're in counseling for things and
you're still working out your stuff but yet you have this i'm assuming would you say it's a healthy
open marriage at this point oh my gosh healthiest it's been ever okay that's good that's like a good
sort of starting point from where you guys were it really it really is i've learned to be so much
more transparent my feelings with my emotions and actually being an active
listener.
Yeah.
With what he has to say.
And like we are so much healthier than we were in the past.
And so you feel.
Okay.
So you have that conversation.
He cops to cheating on you too.
Now if I were talking to him, would he say the same thing?
Like he was very devastated that you had fuck that guy the night before and had this whole
thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's tweaked with his mental comfort with me exploring guys going
forward after that, honestly.
I would assume that both of the trust,
like trust for you guys
was like out the window on both sides.
Oh, 100% for a very long time.
So now when did the conversation come up?
Listen, we can't have this monogamy is obviously not working for it.
When did you start opening yourself up?
It was honestly in that, like,
when I initially brought it to him of, hey,
I had this thing.
I have not had any other hookups with other guys.
That being said, I am on Tinder.
I do have a naughty Instagram account that I have where I talk to people.
I'm flirting with people.
I'm still getting out sexual energy, but I'm not actually doing anything with people.
Is that where I found you?
Is that your naughty Instagram text message me, right?
Or you found me.
Yes.
I listened to your show for years and I've just never had the balls to call in.
Okay.
So I'm just like, okay, time to Annie up, girl.
Let's get this going.
Yeah, but so wait, now, when you guys, are you guys like, you have this open relationship since this cheating went down, you had a hookup.
Your guy has tried to have hookups, but he can't.
Now, when you got home after you fucked that one guy, you got in the house, was there a lot of conversation, like, in a negative way about what it was?
Like, he's not into it as far as it being hot in any way, shape, or form.
No, no, not at all, not at all.
But honestly, it breaks my heart.
Like, I wish he was like a cuckold or something like that.
But it totally broke his heart.
It was really hard for him.
But I was like, you knew what I was doing.
You know what I was going for.
I was hiding nothing from you.
If you were really not okay with me doing any of it,
you need to have said something to me beforehand.
Yeah, but that is,
you might still have some bitterness for the fact that he cheated on you back in the day.
Because in that situation,
I think that in these kinds of very open relationships,
especially in the beginning when you're opening them up,
to tell somebody, like a lot of times someone doesn't know how they're going to feel.
They might think they're totally fine with it and then they're not.
So to tell someone like, you should have said something before,
how could he have said something before?
He didn't know, you know what I mean?
So you don't want to shut him down like that.
I completely agree.
It took me some time to have some time for self-reflection.
And I'm like, girl, like you've read the books.
there's always going to be issues the first time you step out of the marriage in a polity situation.
There's going to be issues.
You were prepared for this.
So it was a hard bit of time for conversations and everything.
Yeah, and I think that, listen, if someone feels like their feelings are being, I don't know what the right word would be, like protected and valued from the other person, he needs to know that his feelings come first.
but you sound a little bit like, no, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want and you're going to have to be okay with it.
I do understand.
I'm coming across that way.
I'm sharing my side of it.
There's also the like, I'm speaking out of an angry tone because I'm so frustrated thinking about the affair.
But that's what I mean.
So I finge, like there's a little tinge of you're not totally on the team together.
And that, that's a problem.
Like, you need to fix that.
I completely agree.
Because he could start having an affair on you again.
I completely agree.
I have had history of being really shitty and doing things in shitty ways.
More and more.
Oh my God.
The peel back these layers.
I'm completely like, I admit to it.
I understand that I've been shitty in ways.
But is it all from because you're still like angry about that thing or were just a shitty person?
Oh God, no.
not at all. I am an incredibly kinky person and like the kinkiness predates anything. Of course.
And you were kinky with him and you were kinky with him. Like what about that fucking
force him you guys had? Tell me about that. Oh my God. Oh my God. That was amazing. So it was a couple
that we had met from church. Always the ones. Of course. That's the best couples. I met the couple
from church. Very similar. Like they don't at that point in time they had only been married for about a year.
We had already been married for a year ourselves.
And we had actually gone to a church service together one Sunday and leaving church.
We all kind of like the conversation just kind of evolved.
So you know what?
Like what if we all just hooked up together?
That turned into like the wife and I, we had a little play session together.
Just her and I, we got into a toy store in Providence, Rhode Island, did some shopping together.
had some fun. There was a lot of like hangouts at their house where there was like watching movies
and heavy petting and which led up to eventually having the foursome together. Her parents had
gone out of town. Her dad was also like the priest of the church that they went to. So her parents
were out of town. Her sister was out of the country on a trip. So we're like, let's fuck.
We're fucking at your mom's house and your parents' house. They have a really really
big in-ground pool. We were all skinny dipping for a while and then we went into the house
until I guess like a little like lounge area. The wives we dressed up in like French made costumes
and just had fun servicing the guys and I remember one point eating the wife out while the husband
fucked me and my husband watched the entire thing. Like my god it was so much fun. And then that
that those kinds of things happened numerous times in your relationship before the babies.
That was the one-time thing before the babies.
I actually got pregnant a little bit after that.
Like we,
the wife actually threw me a baby shower.
Like,
her and I are so incredibly close.
She's actually going through a divorce right now.
The husband's tried,
like hitting up my like DMs and I'm like, dude,
back way,
I love your wife.
Just fuck off.
Yeah.
I actually still have like an open invitation.
with the wife. If you want to, you can just come, come to Rhode Island and we can have some
fun together, which my husband's completely on board for. He loves the idea of that for me.
Yeah. Currently where we're at now, like I talk to people online. I talk, I'm trying to find
someone that I connect with at a deeper level. But I'm also like telling my husband the entire time,
Hey, I'm talking to this person.
Have you met anyone yet?
Oh my God, he actually does.
I forgot this.
He does have someone who I am convinced that he works with wants to hook up with him.
We had actually, we were invited to her house for Memorial Day, like for a cookout.
She gave us a, she's married.
Her and her husband.
I don't know for sure, but I think they're like.
Open or whatever.
Swingers. They're open. Whatever the situation is, they're open. But she was giving us a full tour of her house. She showed off a fuck chair that she has in her, like, walking closet, showing it to my husband. And I'm just like, yes, John, this is what you need. You need an older woman to just fuck you.
Did you tell him that? I've told him so many times. Like, I tell him all the time. I'm like, dude, you have such a hot valley. Like, I'm all. I'm like, dude, you have such a hot valley. Like, I'm all.
always trying to like amp him up to be like, dude, you're hot.
That girl, she was flirting with you.
That woman that you work with, she wants you.
And I think he's just so tuned into his work life and like day-to-day life
that he just doesn't pay attention to it.
So if he were looking outside of Tinder for people, because he really doesn't look on Tinder
because he's given that out.
But if he were actually like looking at other people and the way they interact with him,
he'd see there's so many more people that are into him than he realizes.
And now, how is your sex life with your husband?
Oh my God, it's amazing.
No, we are still incredibly kinky with each other.
He actually built us a bed a few years ago with like equestrian grade restraints onto it.
We go to play.
We've gone to play parties together.
Like, since finding out about all the affairs, like him and I have gone to play parties together.
What are play parties?
What goes down there?
This party was a non-pen party.
So, like, the theme of the party was back to school.
So I wore a mini-skirt, thigh highs, a really cute pair of heels, no top.
One of the, there's just, like, different areas where that you can go to to do a scene.
There's a room where you can do, like, a St. Andrews Cross scene, a fogging scene, like, electrical sort of play.
Like, anything you really want, whatever your play is, you could just,
go and try it as long as it wasn't.
So we went to a party together.
Actually, we went with the couple that I played with the husband.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
This was prior to playing with him.
Like, we all went together as a couple to this party.
We went out to dinner.
We went to the party.
Oh, my God.
There was one point in the evening where, like, I'm being tied up by my husband on the floor,
just in rope because we're also in the rope.
bondage. My husband's tying me up. We're in our own scene and then I happened to look across the room
and the wife of the couple that we went with, like she had him tied up because like between
their dynamic, he's more submissive with her. Oh my God. It was so hot to watch them. I'm really
big into watching people like do stuff. Like, oh, it's so hot to me. It's so hot. But then like after
we did that, my husband and I did a scene. He put me on the St. Andrew's Cross and it was
flogging me and all sorts of naughty talk it was a great he then took me off of that
put me on this like bench thing i don't even know what they're called but it's like a paddling bench
where like you're strapped and your ass is exposed and he just wanted to time spank me mind you
there's 50 people in this room a lot who have already become like relatively good friends with
in the community so they're just watching me get flogged or do you have a little bit as do you have a little bit
do you think of like being a little bit of an exhibitionist too that you dig that everyone's watching?
Oh my God.
I get, I love it.
That's why I have the Instagram.
I'm such an exhibition.
I'm such an exhibitionist.
I'm sorry.
Does your husband like that aspect of it at all?
He likes the aspect that I like it.
And he likes topping me in those scenes.
Give me the pleasure that I'm looking for in those scenes.
He loves that.
I just wonder if your husband's having fun in this scenario.
He is with all that stuff.
In that whole, like you consider yourself like in a Polly relationship.
Yeah.
No, he, we, I'm purposely not talking about the things that we do sexually for him.
Because that's like it's whole own ball of wax.
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Okay.
But I am fully, I'm fully on board with.
He is incredibly kinky himself.
Yeah.
But I just don't want to share his kinky stuff because he's an incredibly private person.
Yeah, I got it.
But have you ever tried to bring Kavis?
Have you ever tried to play together?
What if he had his cake in, what is he looking for in this open relationship?
I get what you are.
You want the freedom to go fuck guys, have relationships with them, get close with them.
That's what you said.
What is he looking for?
If he hasn't even wound up, he can't even get into this coworker, that's so obvious.
He literally, he wants the same thing.
I don't know that he's necessarily into the coworker as much as I want him to be into the co-worker.
I get it.
But no, like, he wants the same thing that I want.
He wants to be able to make the friendship connections.
He wants to be able to play with people.
But he's just incredibly shy.
So he's having a little bit harder time.
Now, have you guys, are there any guys in your radar right now that you might be
hooking up with again?
And do you think your husband's going to be okay with that?
There's literally a couple that I started talking to last week.
It's a married couple.
They play together.
And my husband is actually really like open and excited at the thought of playing with them too.
Right.
Yeah, maybe that's more his speed.
Listen, I think everybody has different things.
Some guys are super turned on by there.
It sounds like you would be like the perfect hot wife.
Like you love to be on display.
And a lot of times like Cock loves that.
And you're on Instagram getting all that attention.
and you like that, but your husband, it's not
really his thing, but it sounds like
he likes to play with you and he's
super kinky. Yes.
He likes showing me off
as well. He actually had
this is going like really old school.
Remember when Tumblr like actually used to be
dirty? Not really, but people
used to talk about it. I never knew that was a thing,
but it was a big thing. Okay. It was a big thing.
It was a big thing. It was a big thing.
My husband and I were both, we both
had really big followings on
on Tumblr. And
He would share pictures of me on there.
So he totally likes the idea of, like, other people looking at me.
I just don't know that he is comfortable or will be comfortable with...
I'm starting over myself.
He is okay with the idea of me having something with a guy or a girl.
He just needs to feel comfortable for himself that it's not, like, an insecurity thing where
I'm just looking for a guy with a bigger dick
or I'm looking for a guy who
like checks whatever box
that he doesn't because honestly for me he checks
every fucking box
possible. I'm just
incredibly kinky and I want to
have all the kinky experiences
I can. Yeah and he
is too so when he's looking for that
he just, it's been a little bit harder
for him but you also do say
when you get into the whole Polly world
it's not just about like swingers and just
fucking other people. It is like having
actual relationships and you can fall in love with other people.
Exactly.
He's cool with that as well.
He is totally cool with that.
He actually prefers that over
because I feel like once you get to
know someone, like your comfort level
is so much higher.
Like for me, if I say I'm open to playing
and that I'm into BBSF,
I'm not looking to jump into anything like kinky
with someone that I just meet.
That's gotta be something that's built over time.
like I've been with my husband for 16 years.
We've got that, but do I like the idea of having that with someone else?
Sure, but it's going to take some time.
I think we're both just trying to figure out, like, yes, open relationship is great for us.
We aren't so set into what it has to, like, look like with any particular person.
Because, like, I don't like the idea of pigeonholing a relationship.
I wanted to just let it evolve as it like naturally happens.
So if say one person, they're into a group thing, cool, that's something I'll explore with them and my husband.
If it's something that like my husband wants to be into, because we've also had the situations where like I was into a couple and I wanted to pursue something further with them.
but he was like, no, I'm not, the wife doesn't, there's just, the wife's not into it,
or I'm not into her or so, what have you, and I just, I won't go further for him.
Because he's not into it. Yeah, because he's not into it.
How do you think you'll feel, like, do you think that you'll be, like, turned on by him being
with another woman? Do you think you have that going to?
We actually have that dirty talk, like, in the bedroom all we're fucking, like, each other.
I love the idea of topping another female.
like topping another female and my husband at the same time which like I said I never taught my husband
like okay I do talk my husband it's just not as often yeah I love the idea of topping a female
into giving my husband oral sex and then topping my husband into bringing her like that is mind
involving to me like you want to direct that scene you want to be the one making them do everything yes
I want to direct the scene I want to be in it I want to tell her
how to make him come.
I just want to do all the things to please him.
And, like, in turn, please myself by doing that.
Right.
That would turn you on.
So much.
And so how come you guys can't find these fucking situations?
Because we're picky as fuck.
That's okay.
You know, that's cool.
And it's not, listen, it's not like you have been together 16 years,
but you haven't had an open relationship for 16 years.
It is still a little new.
And with COVID, you know, that weirdo.
time period we've been through and slowed everything down.
For sure.
My husband often jokes.
Like,
I really was trying to make 2020 in my year to get out and meet people and start
dating harder,
but fucking 2020,
like we couldn't do it.
Yeah.
So,
like,
now we're in a place.
Like,
we've moved from Michigan where he's got a new job.
It's a new house.
Like,
new mental energy for him,
for myself,
for all of us.
And he's just,
I'm not going to let myself get into the old habits that we've had in the past.
of just like negative self-behavior sort of things.
One of his parents lives with us.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so that adds a little bit of trickiness to like our fun dynamic.
Yeah, I can imagine.
And you have kids?
And we have kids and we have professional lives.
And like all of our family is,
literally all of our family is like in a completely different state.
So when there's family emergencies, which there's been a lot of them this year,
like we've had to travel for.
them. Let me ask you this. What do people see on your Instagram? What is on your Instagram? What do you post on
there? What kind of DMs and what kind of action goes down over there? Oh my God. So on my Instagram,
it's mostly just like very teasing pictures. Like when I go work out, if I'm in the locker
room by myself, like I'll take a naughty picture, but it'll just be a teasing picture. But if I'm
working out in my bedroom and I'm doing yoga or something like that, I'll turn the camera or
I'll pose myself with a camera so that you can't see my face, but you can still see like my body
and my curves and my shape. Like, that's all teasing for me. Yeah, yeah. You'll send me in some
picks for my Patreon. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that's great. And so now I really just hope that
while you guys are looking, you still, like, you talk through things.
Yeah, we honestly, like, that's all you do.
Oh, really all we do.
Yeah, that's good.
At this point, we're just talking through all of our emotions, getting all of the big stuff, like, taking care of because I do hear what he says.
I do care about his emotions.
I'm not looking to hurt him.
I know I have hurt him in the past as he has done with me, and we're just done with that garbage.
we're trying to be better for each other.
I think that, listen, you both cheated at the end of the day.
You both did.
So, you know, you both and you both still might have a little anger or something about that with each other.
That you'd be smart to try to work through that because if he could, it's, listen, a lot of times men really don't know why they did something.
It's not like they're not admitting it.
Like they sometimes they're not as in touch with that kind of stuff as we are as women.
So we think they're fucking lying and stuff.
But it really, that's not the case.
Like he might not know why he cheated.
He might not be able to put it together ever for you.
But you have to work through like forgiving him or understanding it and moving on so that there isn't this little bit of a thing where you're a little not compassionate with him for his feelings with what's taking place now.
because of that because you guys are having your cake and eating it too and now you have this open
relationship and I think it needs to if ever a time to really be considerate of the other person
and their feeling to make this successful. I think that's like the most important thing.
He has to trust and know that if something bothers him, he could say, you know what, I don't like
this now. And it doesn't matter that two seconds ago he said he didn't bother him. You know what I mean?
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely like.
In that conversation I had with him, I understood, like, his emotions could change as mine do.
And it's one of the thing that he brought up to me.
He was like, you're allowed to have your emotions when they changed the next.
Same for me.
I'm like, you know what?
You're completely right.
I'm sorry.
Like.
Yeah, here you are.
One minute talking about a force on the next minute you're crying that he cheated on you
four years ago.
So everybody has feelings.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's, you know.
Exactly.
You're no different.
And I think, though, like the trust.
and you guys are into BDSM.
That's all about trust and boundaries and communication.
So you have all that going on.
I wonder where you guys will be five years from now.
I hope your guy winds up getting a little action too.
I'm hopeful for him.
Like he, my God, his tongue skills are fucking amazing.
I just need to share them with someone else.
Like someone else needs to enjoy these skills too.
Yeah.
And I feel like you'll be very different than your guy.
Like you said, like you'll be down and you'll be into.
it. If he drives two hours to go fuck, are you going to be flipping out or are you just going to be
home home home waiting for him? Not in the least. Like he's actually gone out like he's gone out
with dates too with people and it like just it fizzles up. So he has gone on days with people. I've
been super excited for him like while he goes on the dates. I don't know if you're familiar with the term
compersion. Yeah, I heard it recently. Yes. It's like jealousy but not or like it's.
good, John Lacy?
It's like,
when I'm happy for, like, your partner's happiness.
Instead of thinking about your own.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah, yes.
Instead of working on your own emotions,
like you're just happy that your partner's happy.
Yeah.
And that makes you happy.
Yeah.
So, like,
having the excitement and the newness of him going out on a date with someone,
I was like,
oh my God,
what you guys do?
Where'd you guys go?
Like, this particular one,
like, um,
they had just gone to,
I don't know, somewhere to get like sandwiches and one played video games.
Like, totally, like, just a friendship thing to go with to start off.
They fizzled out.
But, no, I love it for him.
I love getting to hear like he does with other people and adventures with others.
Listen, it's not like you guys are just having this vanilla life at home and you're going
and get to fuck other guys.
You guys are still like, like you said, super kinky with each other.
You go to play parties.
You're like trying to hit up other couples.
You do this stuff with each other.
So it's not like he's lacking in variety and stuff.
Not in the least.
I think right now, like, it's just the fact that like, we're in a new area.
We don't really know anyone.
We're trying to meet new people.
The community that we had previous to where we're at now, like, they're several hours away.
So if we wanted to have something with them, because we do still have friendships back in Michigan,
that like if we wanted to have something with them, we still could.
Yeah.
That's still on the table.
But now we're just in a new area of meeting new people again, trying to reestablish
friendships again, which for us again, it's like we want the friendship before we want
to play.
So it's a process.
Yeah, no.
And like if you could have everything you wanted five years from now, what would that look
like?
Would you have another partner and your husband to?
Do you want a nut, like that kind of a Polly situation?
Honestly, I think it would be really cool for us to have our own partners.
That would be amazing or even just having another couple that is like our other couple that we go to and just have fun with.
Yeah.
That'd be totally cool for me too.
Male, female really doesn't matter for me.
I just want someone who's really cool to hang out with, could go kayaking and is also fucking.
and kinky as hell.
That's what I'm looking for.
And you like to play together and separate.
Yes.
You're into both.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think if you guys are on the right place looking, you'll eventually get me.
How old are you guys around?
You don't tell me exact age.
30s, 40s?
Yeah, we're in our 30s.
Okay.
We have so much like ahead of us.
I can only imagine that the kinky adventures we're going to be getting into.
Yeah, you're just at the start.
Yeah, the other day we went to the movies.
And I was like, I'm dressing up.
I wore no bra, no underwear, and like this, like, mini skirt with a sheer overlay on top of it.
And my husband, just to say, I'm teasing you in public.
What's here?
We end up having fun afterwards, after the movies, of course.
But we're always doing, like, playful things with each other like that or, like, messaging each other, like, dirty sex games to play together, like, throughout our day of sending me a picture.
we're a pair of like anal butt plug today or something like that we're always doing
kinky stuff like that together yeah that's great because listen a lot of times babies come into
the picture and a woman loses herself and her sexuality or she gets so involved in that kind of stuff
that the intimate relationship falls by the wayside it's great that you guys are still
you like almost came into your own and discovered this whole other part of you where you like
being out in public and looking and being able to do that on
Instagram and everything now introduces a whole new level of hotness to your relationship.
Oh, it seriously does. He is also like the main source of where my doing my love of doing things
in public came from. Oh, he's into it. Yeah. Oh, he was my first boyfriend. So like when we were
teenagers, like that's just what we had to do. Like we would just go sneak around, go parking somewhere.
So that's just ingrained at me at this point of that's just fun, like to be sneaky.
of like going naughty places
showing a little bit more boobs
than I probably should in the movies
or something like that I love that
so listen why don't you give out your Instagram
if you want I don't know if you're here for that
I didn't even think of that I forget what it is
it's a lady Diana waters
on Instagram
and you'll send in a couple picks
for my Patreon so that people could see you there
as well of course anonymous you're anonymous
I'm assuming
Of course. Yes, I'm anonymous. All my pictures on Instagram are anonymous, so I can definitely study one too.
So it's Lady Diana?
Lady Diana Waters, W-A-T-E-R-S?
Yes.
Okay. So I could, I can't really link sometimes on YouTube, I get in trouble.
But I put that there and people could go check you out on there. It's all, you're anonymous, right?
Yes. There is an underscore, so Lady Diana underscore Waters.
Okay. But yeah, you can check me out on there. It's all anonymous.
Sexy pics. People will see it. They're going to check you out.
I hope I didn't ruin this episode by focusing on all the emotional stuff.
No, you're totally fine. That's part of my story.
Yeah, it's interesting. Because like I said, I always have the opposite story on.
Most of the time it has been successful. And I think a lot of people wonder, like, how can it be?
And I think your guy's experience is very messy and bumpy, but it's very real life.
Yeah, it's very real life.
It's messy, but I feel for the outcome, it's going to be so fulfilling if we can get to that point.
If we can't together, okay.
But I think him and I have a very kinky adventure story together in the future.
That's what you're hoping for, and you're keeping the lines of communication open.
And that's what it's all about.
And you'll, I have a feeling you'll do a part two.
And your husband finds them and you have some more experience.
Come on, because I feel like we just tip, like the tip of the iceberg with you.
I completely agree.
I completely agree.
There's so many stories that I didn't share with my husband and I.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So have some, a couple more experiences.
And then let's touch base like when maybe your husband gets a girlfriend or you wind up meeting that couple here.
And then see where you guys are navigating.
because I think that's always interesting to see a story how it unfolds.
This is where you guys are at now.
And it's super interesting.
I will give out your Instagram in the description.
And send me those picks.
And thanks so much for calling in and good luck with everything.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Awesome.
Bye, Diana.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
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