Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 508 - Ashley Uses Ashley Madison to Cheat on her Husband

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

Ashley uses Ashley Madison to cheat on her husband and she called in to talk all about it. When did she start cheating on her husband? Why did she start cheating on him? And, who does she cheat on him with? Tune in for all the details which include her first affair and why it didn't work out, how and why her second affair lasted so long, what she was looking for in the guys she hooked up with, how her husband knows and doesn't care but isn't into it (?!,) her confusing relationship with her husband and why they haven't had any sex, how her one night stands turned into long term affairs, how she cheats when she travels for work, how many guys she has met on Ashley Madison, how naughty the sex is and where she winds up doing it, who in her family and circle of friends knows she has these other relationships, the current guy she is with and what he does to make her happy, how she got her best friend to join the site and start cheating on her husband and a whole lot more. To see an anonymous pics of Ashley + most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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anonymous. I change the voices there as well. I recently taped my 500th episode. So if you're a fan of my show and you want to know more about me, I'm anonymous on my show too. But I did my 500th episode was me interviewing me. That episode I taped so you could see part of me on video doing that. I was the episode that is all on my Patreon. What's also on my Patreon is picks of all, a lot of, not all my guests, like most of all my female guests as well as some of my guy guests as male guests as well. They're anonymous picks, but they're hot picks. You know, I always tell people, oh, don't send me in anything rated X, but it could be rated ROR and the girls always send me like hot shots of themselves. And I have picks of my caller today. And the picks I have are of Ashley.

Now, Ashley, it's kind of living her best life. She's got two relationships going down. She's got a husband, and that's a whole story. And she's had some boyfriends, some affairs with men who she's very into. She has one currently. She's had one in the past. She's been on Ashley Madison pimping herself out. She dated a lot before she found the guys that she has on the side.

She's got like a straight-up boyfriend. I think her husband knows, not I think. And her husband does know, but it's sort of like, you know, let's not talk about it. We talk about why she decided to go out and do this. We talk about how long she's been doing it, where she, quote, unquote, cheats. Because it is kind of cheating, but not really cheating. I don't know. Because it's not like, listen, this is not an open relationship scenario.

This is not like, oh, a husband that's like, oh, yeah, go out and be a hot wife. I love it. I'll be home waiting for you or anything. I mean, this is a woman who is definitely having affairs outside of her marriage, even though her husband kind of knows. If that makes sense, it'll make more sense when you listen to the episode. She talks about where they cheat. I think I already said that, you know, the details about the different affairs she's had,

the people in her life who knows about it, the other friends of hers that she got into cheating as well. She's on Ashley Madison. and we talk about that. Like, you know, I always thought that that was a place just for men to cheat. But there's women on there. She's on there doing her thing. She talks about how many guys she's met on there, you know, what her profile says,

how she hooks up with them and what she's looking for. And we talk a lot about her husband and what's he doing while she's living her best life. It's interesting, his life. You know, I kind of like go off on that whole situation. You'll hear what I mean. It is kind of funny. but it's an interesting episode because here's a woman who's cheating and people always have a lot to say about that. Like I said, I have picks of her if you want to see Ashley and all like her body.

She gives herself, I think, an eight or nine and she's right. Okay. She looks fantastic for her AGE. Okay. She's like 50 or something. I don't know. But she looks great. She feels great.

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Ashley. Hi, Ashley. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? Doing really well. Thank you, Kathy. So Ashley, I'm going to try and sum up. I got a long-winded email with your story, but I don't like to know that much going in, but like I'm just going to give the short story, then you're just going to tell me the whole story. But basically, you're a woman. You've been married. I'm not sure how long, but I'm assuming for a long time. And eventually at some point, you needed to get your your needs weren't being mad and you started to quote unquote cheat but maybe it's not cheating because your husband does know about it and I'm wondering like you know is this like a hot wiping situation or is it not how did it start out that you went looking elsewhere

outside of your marriage because you're still with your husband correct I am yes we've been married coming up on 22 years right okay so what happened that you started seeing other guys and Was it with his permission? Okay. The way it started was before I got married, I was into a career, everything, really loving life, moved away, got married, and turned into a housewife that basically didn't care what she looked like or I let myself go. And I was okay with that until I met a friend of mine and he was flirting with me and I thought, huh, this is what it's like. This is what I forgot. So we had a quick thing.

It was nothing, but it really opened my eyes. Then I met another guy and started an affair, turned my life around, went on Ashley Madison. Okay, but you're going way too fast with this. Okay. I mean, you know, a wife doesn't just go out and start like having a relationship with a guy. Like, what was actually going on with your husband? Okay. Well, my husband's considerably older than I am.

He's 15 years older. And that really doesn't matter. matter because I've been with people older that are just so much more compatible. What happened was my husband has a tendency of not being supportive of me and for lack of a better term, throwing me under the bus. And this went on for years and physically, this is going to sound so shallow, physically he just, he just wasn't doing it for me. And to be honest, Kathy, I lost interest in sex. I had no interest in sex. I didn't care. I just, I didn't care. I didn't care. So I was okay with it until I wasn't. Does that make sense? Yeah. So then how did you meet that first guy? He was someone that you knew? Yeah. I have gone out of state. I travel and somebody that I've known for a while that I've seen a lot. And one day he just started, for lack of a better term, flirting with me. And I thought, hmm, okay, why not? And then so what happened? Where do you guys

hook up in my hotel now I was I was staying out of state I was out of state so I stayed in a hotel so he just came over and hung out right oh was awful oh kathy was awful oh what was awful about it I hadn't had sex

are you ready for this in 10 years right 10 years so just think from a physiological standpoint yeah but I don't understand how did you and your husband weren't having sex for 10 years well where was Your husband having sex? What was he doing to get on?

With his hand, I guess. I don't know. And I told him, seriously, Kathy, I have told him even before I'm getting to what I'm going to tell you. I told him, hey, listen, if you want to get your needs met elsewhere, knock yourself out. I'll even introduce you to people. Uh-huh. Okay. And he's like, no, I have no interest.

I don't want to, I have no interest in anybody. I don't want to see anybody. And I said, well, this isn't fair to you, okay, because I'm not giving it up and I'm not going to give it up. So what do you mean? You're not going to give it up. You were giving it up to somebody else. Yeah, but not to him. Not to my husband.

See, I have to respect somebody and like them before I have sex with them. And my respect for my husband was fading rapidly. I was losing respect for him. I was looking at him with contempt in some ways. I love what he's done for my family and for us, but I really wasn't loving the man he is. So, but I mean, for, 10 years not to have sex.

I can't believe you waited that long and I would be surprised if he wasn't getting his needs met anywhere else. I don't know many guys that could go or women that could go 10 years without sex and I'm assuming because you don't sound that old that he was in the prime still in his prime

for 10 years. I don't know that he could just be jerking off. Do you think that maybe he was cheating too? No, I can almost guarantee him he wasn't. My husband is very yeah and seriously for me Kathy for excuse the crassness, you could have sewn it shut for all I care. I really, my friends used to tease me about being frigid.

I thought I was frigid. I really, really did. Until that guy. And then you have sex with him and it's not good. I had sex with him. I still thought I was frigid. Right, because it wasn't good. It was horrible.

Right. That first time. Oh my God. It was awful. It was so bad. And why? Because you weren't attracted to him or because, because it hurt?

I mean, like, I don't understand. It hurt. Yeah, it was physiologically. I didn't use the lube. And it just, it hurt. My body wasn't responding the way I knew it used to respond back in the day, right? No. No, no more.

So then what, but then there was another guy after that, you said. Yes. Oh, wow. He passed away a few months ago. This, this breaks my heart. He's actually the husband of an acquaintance of mine who came on to me. And that's the one that really opened my mind. eyes. That's the one who I'm going to say started at all. Okay. So how did that start? So he's in a

friend, he's the husband of someone you know. How did you guys hook up that first time? Okay. Now, this is interesting. I've known him for years and I never paid attention to him because he was always kind of in the background. He's a good looking guy and brilliant, but real quiet. And I'm not. And what happened was, um, a mutual friend of the, her, his wife and I had a party for him, for her at his house. And he was there helping out in the kitchen, quote, quote. And he kept hanging around me. And I'm like, what are you doing?

What are you doing? What are you doing? You're hanging around a lot. What's going on? And I realized he was flirting with me. I thought, oh, I don't like this. And before I left, he handed me his business card and said, give me a call. And I went, okay.

And I did. And we were together off and on until the day he died. Yeah, but what was that first hookup like? you call him and where do you guys meet? I mean, he's like you're someone you know his friend. I mean, I'm assuming you guys live in the same neighborhood. No, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He, okay, this makes it even better. He is in a very, was, excuse me, rest in peace. He was in a very high position in the government in the state in which I live. Oh, okay. So he was, he was very well known. Yes. Yeah. So, but it was not a problem for him to be seen having lunch with someone because, I mean, you have lunch with people, right? I mean, you're, you're, got a lunch with people.

And what I do for a living, I've lunch with people. So it wasn't unusual. So I waited a few days. I didn't text him right away. And I texted him and he's teasing back and forth. And he, would you want to have lunch together? Oh, absolutely. Are you on the menu?

So we had lunch together and made out and decided we were going to see each other and hooked up in hotels. Do you want to hear the funny part? A lot of it was not about sex. He couldn't get it up a lot. So we would just lay there naked and make it. make out, eat fried chicken salads and play scrabble. Oh, I mean, how are you meeting all these guys that are so bad at sex?

I've never met, really, maybe one in my whole life, but like your husband doesn't want to have sex for 10 years. This guy can't get it up, but he just wants to eat chicken salad with you. Okay, no, but you haven't asked about the, we haven't gotten to the good stuff. Oh, okay, let's get to the good stuff. Here, you want to hear something funny? Guess who I have a lunch date with this afternoon? Who?

I have something I have to take care of, and then I have a. lunch date this afternoon with my former boyfriend, the former love of my life, who published a book and mentioned me. Really? Well, we can't jump to that story. Okay. We're at the place where you're just starting to cheat on your husband so many

years ago. You're cheating with a guy who you wound up having sex with for millions of years, but you say he kind of had some sort of getting at a problem and it wasn't just about sex. I don't understand he's getting it a problem. I don't want to get that into it. But what, so what

happens after that so you start seeing him but somewhere along the line your husband finds out about this do you tell him does he catch you cheating because he's in the no right okay here's this is how what no this is what happens okay i signed on to ashley madison all right and i'm keeping it cool now for what i do for a living it's not unusual for me to be gone to go out at weird hours to dress up that's not too too unusual the fact that i was was a little bit but my husband has what I call ostrich syndrome when you stick your head in the sand and nothing matters you know so that worked to my his oblivion which I used to hate actually worked to my advantage well then what happened Kathy is I had an attack of conscience or something and it wasn't fair to him so I call I

said to my husband one day husband we need to talk um I have needs they're not being met you're not meeting them. You can't meet them. I'm looking elsewhere. We can get a divorce so we can stay together. Choice is yours. I need to be honest with you. And he said, as long as you don't bring them here, meaning the house, as long as you are respectful, which means not going at it in public with somebody. And as long as you promise not to leave me, I'm going to be okay with it. And I said, okay, well, why don't you go elsewhere yourself? And he said, no, he has no interest or desire. I'm like, please, please, please, and he has no interest or desire. So it is your 10 years now, you haven't had sex, but you've been having sex with all these other people.

He's like kind of like don't ask, don't tell situation. He knows you get your needs met other places and he's fine. It's not like he's turned on by it though. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not, I don't know. What do you call those things? Hot white thing. Yeah, hot wife saying.

No, no, no, no, no, no. He just, he doesn't want to know, don't ask, don't tell. Now, here's the thing. I did travel internationally. I don't want to say where, but I traveled internationally with my former boyfriend. And obviously I had to tell him. So he knows.

He knows that I had, he knows I'm seeing somebody now. So you've had a couple of boyfriends. Some guys you just latch on to. Some are just one night stands, I'm assuming, and some aren't? Or do you typically look for full-fledged boyfriends?

Okay, this is the funny part. This is the funny part. initially I wanted, I don't even want to call them One Nightstands. I wanted my needs met. I wanted my physical needs met. I wanted a companion, but not somebody kind of steady. As time's gone on and I met, I had a couple of One Night Stand, yes. I've had a couple that have been semi-ongoing relationships, semi-regular, I guess you'd say.

I don't know. And I've had three really strong, good, well, two and a half really good strong. emotional relationships. The relationship I'm in now, he's considered me his girlfriend. I consider him my boyfriend. We've been together two and a half years. And they know you're married. All these guys know you're married. He's married too. They're all married. Oh, do you know, and do their wives know or is it on the idea? No. Okay, here. The one, the former love of my life, the one who I traveled internationally with, his wife, I think his wife knows, okay? But I think, I think, I think sure position is like my husband's position.

He doesn't want to know. Okay, so I'm going to say, I'm going to say his wife knows. My boyfriend now, the one for two and a half years, he says his wife doesn't know. I think she knows but doesn't want to know because I can't imagine this is going to sound bad. being married to someone who looks like he does and acts like he does, looking and acting like she does, and not expecting him to run around. So you're saying he's way better looking than her. Oh my gosh, you get here. He's my age, which is late 50s.

Yeah. All right. And he has a body that is, he's an athlete. His body's better than guys in their 20s and 30s. He had 22-year-olds. Right. want to do him. He's that gorgeous. And the thing is, Kathy, he's

charming. Right. He's not just hot. He knows how to work it. He's got that little twinkle in his eye. And he's a flirt. He's adorable. And now do you care if these guys see other people? Yes. With he and I, yes, I very much care if he sees other people. So you

trust him? No, I don't trust him. Here's the thing. I'm being honest, right? This is what it's for. No. He thinks I trust him. asked me if I trust him. He wants me to trust him and I say I do, but I'm not trust him. How can I trust him? But how could he trust you? I mean, you're cheating on your husband. He's cheating on his wife. You know, he could get other people. You have had a lot of guys in your life since you started to open up your

relationship. I mean, your relationship's open just on your end. I mean, do you see other people as well? Or when you meet the one guy that you meet, you just hang your hat there and it's like one guy's enough for you? Okay, this sounds really bad too. But when I was with the guy that took me out of the country, which is who I'm meeting now. He and I had a mutually exclusive relationship, but I didn't abide by it because I have the one I have now, too. So I said it was exclusive, but I was sort of my, what is it called it, semi-monogamous, sort of monogamous, whatever that word is. Right. Yeah, that one.

So, but I have committed myself to the guy I'm with. I'm pretty true to him. So I'm having lunch with my former boyfriend, but we have lunch. Oh, you don't have sex with him anymore. No, no, no, no, we're going to go eat. We really are going to go eat. Well, how do I know with you? You've got all these guys.

It's hard for me to keep track of them. No. No, just the one I call him the love of my life. And this man is absolutely amazing, Kathy. He is absolutely incredible. The guy you're with now. Why wouldn't you leave your husband for him? Why do you and your husband stay together?

My husband satisfies the financial, the stability, and what have you needs. as I do him. I take very good care of the house. I take very good care of him. I do what I need to do to make sure he's taken care of. Then I have these other needs. I need to be validated. I need to be appreciated.

I need to have my sexual needs, my emotional needs, that intimacy. I need those taken care of. And that's where my boyfriend comes in. We see each other every week. Every Wednesday, we've seen each other every Wednesday for two and a half years. And sometimes in additional time. during the week to go kayaking or to the shooting range or to go for a hike. We like to try new restaurants.

So we do that. Once a week, we get together for sex. But some would say the question would be like, why can't, why not try to get all that from one person? I mean, most women and men get all of their needs met through the person that they get married. That's what marriage is for, right? Correct.

So what wrong in your marriage? Yeah. People grow. Okay, of course you grow and you change. That's part of life as a good, solid human being. We grow in opposite directions. Yeah. And we've lost so many, okay, I'm young.

I like to do things. I'm in good shape. I like to go and do. My husband works. He likes to lay on the couch and watch television and read. He hates to travel. Yeah. He doesn't like to do anything.

And I, that's okay for a while. I love to travel alone or what have you. But after a while, I kind of want somebody to hang with. Mm-hmm. You know, I don't want somebody to play with. I want somebody to spend a little more time with, please. You know? So what am I expected to do?

Honestly, but let's stop there, though, because I'm probably wrong to say that you're cheating, correct? Because it's not like you're cheating. Your husband knows that you are getting your needs met elsewhere, correct? Yes. So it's not, I wouldn't call it cheating. No, right. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Right. He knows. And if he didn't know, then, yeah, that's a little different set of circumstances. But he knows, because it wouldn't be fair to him. Okay. And I knew what was going to hurt him. But I wanted to give him the option of saying, okay, you're out the door. If this is the way you want to live your life, then you just go ahead and you can lead.

I'm not putting up with this. I'm not supporting this. And I completely understand that. That's the reasonable response. But this works for us. I take care of him. And the same thing, it's funny, because my boyfriend's the same way. he is probably the most devoted husband you'd ever want to come across because he has this as an outlet

and because we have this as an outlet we are able to give more of ourselves to our partners and make sure they're happy before our needs are met right but it doesn't sound like you have much of a relationship with your husband it sounds like there's nothing going on there really isn't it's it's paper it's on paper I guess is what you'd say so you're like roommates That's exactly Yeah We're all house broken They're all grown And out the door Yeah yeah yeah And yeah

We have I have one He has I have one and he has some Right Mm-hmm So no one's living in the house You're living in the house together Do you sleep in the same bed? Yes

We just bought a new king-fai's bed One of those adjustable beds A split twin You know it's a split twin That's the king We sleep together There's no physical contact Every so often

you know like when I fly out of town and I come back in you know when you come back in you get a little bird peck you know bird peck type thing yeah that's about it that's that's it right and you don't think he's with anybody else he's totally fine jerking off or something what do you think he does he does that I don't even think he does that he's so and he smokes he's just he's been terrible not in great shape all he does is no he's wise and he lost something wrong with his hormones I don't think it's natural for someone to have I mean, with women, sometimes, you know, when their hormones bottom out, when they reach menopause, it could be a real problem that a woman loses, you know, it's nature. You know, she loses her ability to have children, so therefore she loses her ovulation and then loses her sex drive because there's no reason if you're even just talking nature

for that animal anymore to go out and procreate. And that's like a big issue for women because they're just not horny. But with men, because they can have babies. If we're just talking nature, they can have babies so they're seven. I think Rod Stewart had a baby in a 70. I mean, their sperm still working. So I mean, like, you know, doesn't your husband wonder what's wrong with him

if he just has zero sex drive, like zero? I don't know, I don't know many guys that have zero sex drive. Yeah, he's, I can't explain it physically. You know, knock what, thank God, he's healthy. He can't be healthy. No, I mean, he is healthy. He went for a checkup. He is really physically healthy.

So then maybe he's, he's I mean he has no desire for any you don't even think he jerks off I think you're wrong no I don't think he doesn't have an orgasm in 10 years do you do you know men do you know any man I mean you're banging all these guys all these guys are cheating on their wives with you because they need to get fucked okay yeah your husband is like the only guy out there that I've ever heard of that could go 10 years without any kind of orgasm release or he's no I'm sure he's jerked off but I don't think you'd make a habit of it. Also, there's a physical, without getting graphic, there's a physical concern with his testicles. So it's, it's so, yeah. So physically he's healthy, but it just things don't

work the way they should, I think. You think. So you don't talk. You don't have any desire to fix that because you're totally fine. Now when you went on to Ashley Madison, what do you put on there? Like, I'm a married woman looking for a guy, just for sex. No, no. I write really good ads. I really do. I write some for my friends. What were you writing on there? Okay.

It was, what am I looking for? First, okay, shallow time. Here we go. You have to be at least six feet tall. You have to take care of yourself. You've got to have charisma, intelligence. This is what I'm looking for. I'm looking for more than just a bed partner.

I'm looking for a companion for lunches and dinners and weekends. Basically, I'm smart. I'm secure. I'm easy on the eyes. And I'm looking for somebody just like myself. Mm-hmm. And now, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hot are you? With or without makeup? Well, okay. With makeup, all dolled up. What are you showing up as? And do you have anonymous picks to send me

for my Patreon members? Women send me those. I could, you know, when we hang up, I will, well, I'll take care of it. If you give me a link in the next day or two, oh, yeah, I'll send you some. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just some anonymous no face shots. Everyone's anonymous on my show. Just my body? Yeah. You are not, I got to brag. I'm so impressed. I lost a bunch of weight. And I've been working out and I had boob reduction surgery. And I'm wearing clothes I have not been able to wear before. I always looked good before.

I was always really booby. Yeah. But I look. I look. Yeah. How hot am I? I'm going to say, I'm going to say I'm an eight or nine. Okay.

For my age especially, I'm like 50s. Yeah, yeah. And so you look for guys that are more attractive, right? What's your age range? I'm always interested in people's age ranges that they put on. I like them older. You do? Uh-huh.

My friend likes them younger. I don't, like my age or older. My former love of my life, the guy I'm going to meet, is 17 years older than I am. Wow. Okay. And he, oh my gosh, Kathy, the guy looks like Harrison Ford. He's a retired, high-level military officer. Right.

He is flipping gorgeous. Oh, my God. He's 17 years older. The guy I'm with now, I told you, tall, bald, and built. Right. Beautiful. And how old is he around your age? He's late 50s.

Mm-hmm. And these guys were on, so did they find you on, you know, I never thought Ashley Madison, like, I don't know why, and it's probably like just really sexist for me to say this,

but, you know, you would just think that it's like all guys on there looking, you know, the married and then single girl, but I guess it's no. It's so I guess like it's married women and married men typically on there. Like how,

what's the, what's going on on Ashley Madison? The majority of us are married. Okay. But there are some single people on there. Mm-hmm. Right. Somebody looking for no strings attached. I think, you know, a lot of times if you're going to cheat or you want a situation like this, the best thing to do is have it with someone who has your same circumstances, right? Because or else it's going to get messy. At least with you, you have that husband at home. You're not going to leave him. For some reason, I don't know why you guys are together, but you're sticking together. And these guys are. And so it works for both of you. Correct? Yeah. It does. It works.

It needs both of our needs. And if it didn't, I think he would say, meaning my husband, I think he would say something. What do you mean your husband would say something? My husband says something if his needs were being met, but with my boyfriend. Your husband's needs aren't being met. Stop. But your husband, I mean, maybe he has no needs. Your husband's some sort of weirdo that just sits on the couch and has zero needs.

He does. He does no emotional need. Getting met by you. He has no sex. He has no needs for porn or jerking off. He has his own side of the bed and he's happy. I wish I was your husband. He takes very little to keep him happy.

He goes to a lot of library books. There's nothing more depressing than your husband's life. I'm sorry, a guy that just goes to the library and reads books. It's beautiful weather. I say, let's go out. Let's do something. Come on. He's like, no, he won't.

He won't do it. Let's go for a ride. Nope. But no, my boyfriend's, his needs are being met. And his is very similar to mine. He needs emotional. into something he says that really breaks my heart because when you think about what it really means Kathy he's always telling me he loves the fact that I love to touch him and that I always let him

touch me. That's that's telling to me that's very telling. And he's always saying you'd love to touch me and you always let me touch you and I love to touch you and I said I can't get enough of that. He said that just amazes me. Right but do you think and I hate to keep bringing back to your relationship because I just can't understand it. Do you think like that's where you went wrong in your own relationship? I mean, it's like the chicken of egg, which came first? You know, who stopped touching who in your relationship? I can tell you exactly. I can tell you exactly. The first couple of times my husband threw me under the bus after that, I said, don't even get near me. If you're not going to back me, if you, if this is how you, you are to me with every situation,

it's the same scenario. You always, always, always, always throw me under the bus. I just lost all attraction for you. What do you mean throw you under the bus? There was times like where you had a bump in the road and he didn't have your back or something like that? No, he doesn't have my back. In other words, when I tell him something, we had problems with started with problems with our neighbors. I'll make it a nutshell. We had a problem with our neighbor. And our neighbor used to fly down our driveway. And I told him about it and he talked to the neighbor. Well, this went on and on and on. And finally I said to him, the neighbor just flew down the driveway. What do you mean flew down, driving his car in your driveway?

No, no. Instead of going slowly down the driveway, he's almost ran me over a couple of times. because it's a private driveway. Yeah. I told my husband, my husband's like, well, I wasn't there. I don't know if he was speeding. I said, I just told you he was speeding. So I didn't see it. And then his son-in-law, our son-in-law, has a tendency to yell at me and wave his finger in my face, but he only does it when my husband's not around.

Right. And I told my husband about it, and I said, you need to talk to Irving. And he said, well, I wasn't there. I didn't see it. What do you want me to do about it? And I said, I expect you to call him up and say, he told me this so I want to hear your side of the story Irving

and he never does that he refuses to do it because as he said he wasn't there he didn't see it he doesn't know what happens and he doesn't like confrontation and this happens all the time right so that's what started to happen and that made you lose interest in sex with him that's what you're saying yes

but I'm just saying like that guy said oh you know no one's touching me my husband like you were I'm sure that would have been your husband's story too. You know, I mean, like people, anyone, whether it's your husband, whether it's you, whether it's that guy or his wife, you know, everybody needs there, you know, everybody has needs that need to be met. Like I said, the only person in this story that doesn't is your husband, you know, and he might

be super depressed or something's wrong there because it is true. Everybody has needs. Look at you did. You needed to have, be respected and, you know, stuck up for. And with those needs not getting met, you got pissed off and stopped having. sex with your husband got totally turned off. I mean, these things do happen. That's why relationships are such hard work. You know, they need tending to. You have to keep them to keep them fresh and you got to keep them going and feed them. You know, when you take out those key ingredients,

what do you have left, what you and your husband has? And then you have to go and get your needs and elsewhere. That's the same thing that's going on with these guys in their home as well. But it's not like it's not happening. I mean, it just happened in your home a long time ago. And Nobody cares. Yeah. And it's that not that we don't care. It's that there's only so much you can do, I think. You know, there's only so much you can give.

There's only so much you can do. Let me just ask you this. How many guys did you meet on Ashley Madison? Like, were there a lot of hookups before you met the guys that you actually dated? Yeah, yeah. Okay, now hold on. I met a lot. I've met dozens, dozens,

hooked up with a good number of them. Yeah. I'm going to say met about 30 or 40. Uh-huh. Hooked up with, oh gosh. 17, 18, not even more than a dozen, less than two dozen? No, no, more than that more than a whole. It doesn't matter the exact number.

But like what are some hot scenarios? Are you always hooking up? I always like to know where cheating sex goes down. It's always funny to me. I mean, you know, because, lot of times it's like in the car in the back of the minivan in a parking lot. Okay, that's funny. A couple of guys who wanted to do that in their trucks.

I'm like, no, uh-uh, no, no, I don't do that. I'll make out with you, but that's about it. Except for my boyfriend now, just every so often it's kind of fun. We'll go to this truck and, you know, park and make out and have sex just in this truck because we can. It's usually at hotels. It's at hotels. A couple times it's been at their house if they've been single or their wife is gone,

which is, I think, is hot. Right. And my boyfriend comes over to my house. Where's your husband when he comes over? It works. Oh, really? Yeah, he comes to my house. Does your husband know?

No. No, he doesn't know. Well, he knows your boyfriend. So at this point, who the fuck cares? No, no, because that was one of the things I said. He said, don't bring him here. Yeah. But you do.

I do. Right. Because it's convenient because he actually only lives about a half an hour from me. which was really worked out well. Does he ever go? Do you ever go to his house when his wife isn't there? No, and I've always wanted to, and we've talked about it, because his wife's been out of town,

and we've actually spent nights, overnights in hotels when she's gone. And we've talked about me coming over to his house, and we never have, and I'm like, oh, I really wanted to. Why? Do you think it's like that unfortunate thing is that, you know, cheating sex sometimes is supercharged, and there's something hot.

about and naughty about it that makes it even hotter than regular sex. Is that why you want to fuck at his house while his wife isn't there? It's what? Is that why you are interested? Is that why you want to go over to his house and do it? Because of the naughtiness of it? I don't understand. Yes.

It's, yeah, part, okay, a lot of it. First of all, I want to see his house. Oh, okay. I know what it looks like because I've seen it. But I want to go inside it because it's absolutely flipping gorgeous. Yeah. And I want to go over there because it's hot. There's just something about going to his house on his couch or in his bed.

His wife drives a certain kind of car. It's a really cool kind of car. And every so often we take it out and make out in it. And I asked him once. I said, it's part of the attraction, the fact that it's your wife's car. He said, yeah, of course. Right. Including the customized tag on the front.

And even for you, there's something about that that turns you on. So that would be an added bonus if you were in his house. Like sometimes he goes to yours. Of course, absolutely. What's the, and so tell me some other hot experiences you had with guys that you met on there. I always thought it was just guys that went on Ashley Madison. You're like the first woman I know that's been, you know. Really?

I think so. I don't know why. That's what I mean. It's like sexist of me to say that I always thought it's, oh, it's a place where, because, you know, and I think like it's just that go-to that people think about and it's not true, right? that, you know, it's men cheat more than women. And I don't think that that's true. I think it's maybe it's equal or it's more about women do cheat. You're quote unquote, you know, or they do seek out affairs.

And, you know, those apps out there like Ashley Madison's seeking arrangement, they could be for women too. I don't know. Okay. At first, all right, let me, let me, let me do. I'm going to answer you this way. My best friend was in a similar situation for a lot longer than me. Okay.

So she, I don't want to say she judged me, but she judged me about being on AM. And after a while, she's like, you know what, you're getting your needs met. I see the way your life is. I see how happy you are. Let me try it. So I don't want to say I converted her, but I converted her. And what happened with her on there? She's married.

Oh, my gosh. She's going crazy. Are you serious, Kathy? She's going crazy. she's meeting guys left and right and she's older than me no way how old is she you're in your late 50s you're talking about 65 year olds she's late 60s she's got 10 years on me okay and how what's her age rage i mean she's not getting 30 year old guys she's the one who wants yes she is she's getting guys in their 30s and 40s Kathy she's the one who goes after the what are they called coogers she's the one who goes after the young ones right well she wouldn't even be a milf at this point she'd be a gilf i've had some guys on that are into

gilfs. I mean, you know, that's what's it called? A gilf, a grandma, I like to fuck. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my boyfriend. That's what I called because he just became a grandfather. I said, you're the GILA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so what she, if she's close to 70 and she's like a guy that are in their 30s, I mean, they're definitely into that way older woman fetish, which exists for sure. I've had some guys on that are into that, you know, no strings attached. But there's definitely something about that. It could be a fetish when it's such a young guy and such a, you know, a much older woman, but she's enjoying herself on there as well,

and she's still married, no planning on leaving? Oh, no, no, no, no, she will never leave her husband. Mm-hmm. And here's the thing, we think he might know. You think he knows like your husband knows? Why? Why do you think he knows? I don't know.

I don't know why I say that. Uh-huh. I don't know why I say that. I don't know why she says it. She just thinks he knows. Right. I don't, I can't think how to explain it. He's kind of clingy.

Her husband's kind of clingy. And he's gotten clingyer. And he always buys her stuff, like tries to buy her stuff, you know? Well, what does that have to do with anything? That's her husband? He buys her stuff. Yeah, that's her husband. But he's, yeah, really.

But it's becoming excessive. I can't explain it. It's almost like he's trying too hard. Does that make sense? Oh, that's why you think he's over buying. So you think it's that he knows she's cheating and he's trying to win her back. He's afraid he's losing her. I think sometimes listen, I think when there are, when somebody, it's an energy shift.

I don't think someone needs to know to know. You know, it's why a guy friend of mine will come to me to be like, oh, my girlfriend. And he's cheating on his girlfriend and he's talking about how his girlfriend's crazy because she's always, you know, accusing him because he thinks she's crazy because he's never told her and she's never found out. But she's not crazy. She's picking up on something. That's the way it always is.

You know, there is a shift in an energy. If you were one time 100% present with somebody And then you start to have an affair And you take even a little bit of yourself someplace else Somebody that's like really in touch with their feelings Is probably going to pick up on it It happens all the time. It's unspoken things but there's a vibe.

So you know if she is all of a sudden You know 60 something year old woman living her best life Fucking 30 years old There's going to be a shift in her energy that her husband's going to pick up on He's been with her for a really long time. I know in your email you said like your husband noted. Like, I mean, it changed you and the way you felt about yourself, right? When you started hooking up with all these other guys.

Yes, that's exactly. You hit it right on the head. It's a shift in the energy. You can't explain it any better than that. It's something you can feel it. You can sense it. I don't know. But here's the thing.

My husband is, like I said, oblivious. Yes and no. Her husband is not. Her husband's really, really. Yeah. So it makes perfect sense for him to be attuned to something like that. Yeah, like you don't know what it is, but you could sense if your person is maybe all of a sudden checked out when they were typically right there. I mean, this was a woman that went from being monogamous to having affairs.

Now, she's on Ashley Madison herself meeting guys, living her best life. Now, is she the one friend that you talk to about this? Do other people in your life know? Yes. Yes, to El Leavis. Yes, yes, she's the one I talked to. Yes, other people know. My mother knows.

No way. What does your mother say? My mother, God love her. She's wonderful. She's a great woman. She's in her 80s. She's just incredible. Ma is, she's terrific.

She's very non-judgmental. She's very supportive. It's whatever's going to make me happy. And she sees how much better I've been. My business is, I own a couple of businesses. They've taken off like wildfire. It's crazy the way my life has turned around. It's weird.

How long you've been doing this for? A couple years? Three years. Three years. I'm having my three year anniversary coming up. Now, are you still on the app? Do you still meet other people who are now that you found this one guy, he's enough for you? Oh, yeah, yeah, he's fine.

He's fine. And fine. Yeah, I don't, I'm not on there anymore. No. No. I have my app. It's still on there, but it's not, it's not active. You can activate it.

Mm-hmm. But mine's not active. And now when you go in there, did you put like face picks of yourself where you afraid? I mean, I know that your husband was somewhat in the no, but still you don't want maybe your neighbors to know or maybe he wouldn't want his friends to know that he's allowing his wife, right? So how do you do it anonymously? How does it work? You lock your pictures and then you give access. So I would only give you access to my pictures if I chose to. Oh, okay. So you go on there. You just put your details on as far as like what you're looking for, your female. No

pictures though. So, and then someone has to start talking to you and then once you vet them a certain way and know, oh, maybe this is somebody that, you know, I know is cool and maybe you know doesn't live by you or whatever, for whatever reasons, you have to feel comfortable enough to then show them your picks. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, okay. That's smart.

And what kind of picks do you have on there when you then show? You picks of your face or do you ease into that? I mean, do you let people know who you are right off the bat once the pictures are marching? I have pictures of my face, but they're nothing, they're nothing that you wouldn't show your mama. Okay. They're always tasteful. You know, pictures of me in a nice outfit or pictures of me, you know, whatever.

They're not, they're not tit shots. I don't do that, no. You're not going to see pictures on any part of my body naked until I decide it's going to be a long way. Right. But some of these people, you did just hook up with them. I mean, they were just sexual experiences. Right.

Mm-hmm. They were. Right. Mm-hmm. And so with those people like one and done's or did you eventually, think, oh, you needed more? Or did you think that you were going to go in? Were you always looking for the kind of relationship you have with this guy when you started?

No, no, I really didn't. I really didn't want it. I didn't think about it. I didn't really care about it. You were just thinking, looking for sex. Yes, exactly. And did the sex get better and better as you? Because I know that that first time it wasn't so good.

The second time it was great. And now with all the other people in between before this guy, did you have some really hot experiences? Yeah, I did. I did. I really did. I had some wonderful hot experiences because it was just physical, but then I needed more, Kathy. I needed more.

Because you weren't getting that. Then you realized it wasn't just that you weren't having sex with your husband. It was all the other things that you were missing. And you went out to find that. Now, with this guy that you have, the two guys that you had, I mean, that one guy you were just, bang him up until he died, you said?

I mean, he was always in your life, right? Yeah, yeah. And then this guy, did it just start out as a sexual thing? And then how did it grow into something where you're like emotionally attached? Well, we met online. And it's funny because he asked me out for months, but I didn't have the time. And he was cute, but he didn't do that much for me. He kept asking me out and I finally went out with him just to shut him up.

Uh-huh. I walked in that restaurant and he had me from the get-go. Then we started baking out after we had our lunch. and then hooked up a couple of weeks later and really liked each other, really enjoyed each other's company, really had fun together. We would meet more for lunches than sex and then we'd meet for sex. Right. And after a couple of months, he's like, you know, let's talk. Let's have a conversation here.

And I'm okay. And then after that six months, he said, you know, I love you? And I said, yeah, I guess you do. And yeah, I was just kind of from there. And were you in love with him too? Yeah, very much so. Right. I still at home.

Had the other guy passed already? Because he was the love of your life? Yeah, but we had stopped the sexual and anything else part a while ago. Oh, okay. So that wasn't like the whole time while you were with him. No. Right. And so was it confusing at all when you started to really fall for him?

Or was it, you know, okay and actually, you know, worked out perfectly for you. It worked out perfectly for me. It was okay. I was a learning experience. It got me to where I am now. Right. This guy. And I, oh my gosh.

But anyway, I can't. Oh, so this wasn't that. I'm getting confused with your guy. So it was the first guy that you fell for was the guy before this guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right, right. And then this guy, though, you went into the, with him in the same way.

Like, now you know what you want. You want like an affair or a real relationship with somebody else. Exactly. A real boyfriend. Right. And so with this guy, you were straight up about that? Or did it just wind up to turn into that as well with this one? With this one, he was the one who started talking about it.

Because he knew I was after something less. And he's like emotional attachment. He started bringing it up. And that's when I realized he's right. This is what I wanted anyway. But it never met the right guy. Right. Now, you said your mom knows.

This friend knows that's doing it. Do other friends? Do you have any friends that are like opposed to it that you told? Or do you know who to tell and not to tell? I know judiciously who to tell. Right. You know what I mean? Like there's some people, yeah, uh-uh.

Especially where I live, it's kind of a, it's a small town. I think to me, the best part of this is that I am living two perfect lives. Right. I have my wonderful, loving, devoted boyfriend who is so much fun and we can explore and have adventures and just be together. And then I have my reality. You know, my husband, my life, my career. Mm-hmm. That's what it works.

That's what it works. Yeah. Well, listen, think I got the whole. story here. I still want to know where you and your husband are going to be five years from now. I don't know. I find that whole relationship there a little bit. Check that. Want me to check back with you? Yes, let me know. But good luck though with your guy. I mean, you know, a lot of people are going to go mental over the whole scenario because like I said, there's a big, I think it's, you know, the way people react when women are doing something like this as opposed to a man. It's very interesting to me then when they see it. But people will definitely be

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