Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 512 - Lucy is a Young, Bisexual, Cuckquean in an Open Relationship

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Lucy is a young, bisexual, cuckquean in an open relationship and she called din to talk all about it. When did her and her boyfriend open up their relationship? And, when did she realize she was into seeing her partner with other women? And, when did they start having threesomes?? Tune in for all the details which include all the baggage her and her boyfriend had going into their relationship, how they were able to turn their jealousy and distrust into a sexual turn on, how she had been with a ton of women before dating her boyfriend and how turned on she's always been by them, how she started role playing the cuckquean scenario with her boyfriend and how that led to their first threesome and exactly what went down, the rules they set up regarding their threesomes and how and why they broke them, how she got her boyfriend into pegging, how and when he revealed he had the cuckold fetish and how that led them to their first full swap, how they found the couple they had their full swap with and what exactly went down, how he copped tot he fact that he now wants to fool around with another guy and how they're going about finding another bisexual couple, how being super young in the lifestyle has some disadvantages plus a whole lot more. To see an anonymous pics of LUCY plus most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All of the information that I just gave you is in the description. Okay, so today I have on Lus. Lucy. Lucy's great. She's super young still, but she has done a lot. Okay. This is a girl who has from the get-go been super open with herself and others about what she's been into. She's into a lot of kinky things. She was always into girls. She's been straight up bisexual from a young age and always open about that. She eventually met the guy she's with now and they had a lot of back and forth in the beginning of the relationship that she talks about. And during that back and forth,

they created some baggage in that relationship that showed up and was still there when they started to actually really date. And that baggage was jealousy. There was jealousy on her side because he had cheated on her. There was jealousy on his side because he could tell she was like really into women.

She's almost into women more than guys. And she had actually been with more women than him. Okay. But they were able. What's interesting about, their situation is they were able to take that jealousy and that baggage that they had and turn it into like a hot scenario. Okay, they are turned on now by watching each other get it on with other people.

Now, how did they transition into the couple that was like super jealous of the couple that's like totally down? She tells that whole story. It's not a straight line. It's messy, but it's real life. and that's what I love. I love stories like this because I think that you could really learn from them. She talks about how they first started with threesomes with other women. That's where her whole cock queen scenario came in. First she started to mock that with her guy, have him like talk about

being with another girl. Once she realized like that really works for her, she decided to have those threesome with him with another woman. And they had a couple of those. They made some rules and regulations. They broke them. But she talks about the specifics of all their threesomes who they did it with, what they were into, what went down, and how they messed up. But then what was interesting is her guy started to fantasize about him watching her with a guy. And it came out that he had a little bit of a cuckled thing himself and maybe like a whole by side. She started pegging him. She's down with that. She's a little dumb. She's kind of a switch, actually. That's what she says. So then they decided to like do full swapping. And they had some issues with full swapping because they're a very

young couple in the lifestyle. You know, they're super young, like in their 20s. And they're very aware of the fact that a lot of older couples are just wanting to hook up with them because they're super young and they're not into that. So they've had a hard time finding other couples to do the full swap with, but they did have one full swap with a couple. They met online and they talk all about that hot scenario. She's really into reclaiming sex. They're exhibitionists. They're now both bisexual or he's by, you know, he's bicarious. She's very bisexual. Really, her ultimate fantasy would be to have her boyfriend and also have a girl in the mix because she's very down with girls. They're now looking for a by couple so her guy could fulfill his family.

fantasies. But anyway, like I said, it's a super interesting story because it's very real. It's not perfect. And I think that you could learn from it. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Lucy. Oh, and she sent me in pictures. Okay, all the girls nowadays are sending me in pictures, which is great. So if you want to see pictures of Lucy as well as pictures of like all my past female guests, anonymous pictures, not X rated pictures, but R rated pictures. Go to my Patreon. on Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. That link is in the description. I'll be right back on Lucy.

Hi, Lucy. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm great. Thanks for having me on. No, thanks for coming on. Because you found me and DM'd me, I think, on Instagram. And you know, you're very young, but you got into a lot.

You've done a lot of things, not got into. You are into a lot of things. You've done a lot of things. You've been with a guy. since like the get-go, because like I said, you're still super young. You've been with this guy a long time, but you're like only like in your early 20s. But you guys have really dabbled in the lifestyle, quote unquote, cuck queen, queening, all kinds of stuff that we're going to talk about,

threesomes, right? And I know that you said, like you feel like you guys are like, you know, in the swing or seeing you guys are like super young or always like the youngest people out there. Are you guys going to clubs and stuff? How do you know that you guys are the youngest, quit-unquote, swingers around? So we haven't been to any clubs or anything like that yet. We've kind of like dabbled in, like, looking into a few. But really just the opportunity hasn't popped up.

Where we live is pretty, like, religious, I would say. So there's not a lot of opportunities outside of private parties and stuff like that. So we haven't dabbled in clubs yet, but we do have. an invitation to one. We did just move, so it'll be happening within the coming weeks, probably. Right. But mainly just online in our little society, we've kind of realized how much older the community tends to be. Right. Yeah, Natalie, I think most people have an idea of what swingers are, and they typically skew old when you think, if you're thinking about the swinger couple, right? You're not thinking about people in their early 20s, though I always say on my show, and I think it's very

true that the younger generation is way more open-minded. I mean, look, here you are super young, and you've already tried so many things, and you were like, you know, open enough to share them with your boyfriend from the get-go, and then he started to share things with you. So why don't you start from the beginning and tell me how it all started? Sure. So my partner and I actually met in church, funny enough, when I was a freshman and he was a junior in high school. And we dated for about six months. Obviously, it was like we were both very young and it just didn't work out. So after about six months, things ended and we kind of went our separate ways for a few

years. but every time that we caught each other, like not in a relationship with someone else, we would hook up. And I ended up, like, dating one of his really good friends, and he hated me for it. And then we tried to reconcile a couple times before we officially got back together. And it just never worked out. We both just didn't trust each other. I was a very free-spirited and sexual person from a very young age, and he was in a committed relationship on and off again. And then after I graduated high school, and he was out of school,

we both found ourselves single again and started chatting online and ended up meeting up and hooking up and I kind of just never left his house after that point. So we officially got back together about four years ago and just immediately started to live together and stuff and it was super toxic at first. We were both very like there was a lot of mistrust in the relationship. there was a lot of baggage that we were trying to work through while also being like basically horny teenagers together again and so the the whole relationship at that point was just a struggle and after a while um and he's he's also very vanilla i've always been more of like experimental the first time we ever had sex, it was anal.

And I... You were the one that brought it up. A lot more experience. Right, yeah. So, and another thing is I'm also bisexual. I've been very open about my sexuality since I was very young. And I've actually been with quite a few more women than I have men. Have you been with more women than he has?

Yes. There you go. And I mean, it's a push in a poll. He has been with other people. He's just had sex more in committed relationships. And when I wasn't in a committed relationship, I was fucking around. And so when we got back together officially, it kind of felt like he was a little bit jealous that I had more sexual experiences than he did. and felt a little bit threatened by the fact that I do have a pretty strong preference for women from a physical standpoint.

I love eating pussy. I love tits. I love ass. And I just, it's hard for me to find a guy attractive, to be quite frank. So I think that that was a little bit of misalignment. I'd also had threesomes with two girls and two guys before, and he'd never had that experience. And so we were just, like, not quite on the same level, and it did cause some contempt. Yeah, I can imagine.

Because you were very open about all this stuff with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he knew about it all. And I was very jealous and protective over him, and he was the same way over me. And so the communication about like even wanting to explore those avenues with each other and not just have it be. Something of the past was very closed off. But what were you jealous of? Because I get where he was coming from because you were very up front.

You were super open-minded. You had had so many sexual experiences. What did you find yourself getting jealous when it came to him? So the first time you ever dated, when we were like kids basically, he ended up cheating on me is how that relationship ended. Okay.

So I had a lot of trauma from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, that's hard to trust somebody who has already, you betrayed your trust. So you're like, so you're, so you're, even though it's been so many years later, you're still picking up from that. That's the baggage that you spoke of.

Yeah. Yeah. And I would find, like, fake accounts on his social media profile, like fake social media profiles, just where she would like be adding random girls and stuff like that. And I never really got an explanation as to why. And so I just, you know, I had no trust. And I do think it was in part because of that difference in experience. I think he was speaking out those different experiences because he knew that we were committed again. And that's totally understandable in retrospect.

But in the moment, I was pretty pissed off. Yeah, it's interesting that you're, you know, you guys as a couple went from that place where two people are both really jealous about, you know, their partner, wanting or being with other people to being a couple that is allowed to be with other people and has an open relationship, you know? Yeah. And it didn't happen overnight. Yeah, that's why I love to get the whole story.

You know, that's what I, that's what I, that's what I, I like the, I like that you're starting from the beginning and talking about all this stuff because how does somebody work through that or a couple work through that and, you know, but just keep going on. I don't want to cut you off because we're just at the beginning. Oh, no, you're fine. I think that's one of the things I really appreciate about your podcast in general is being able to hear how people start in, you know, complete monogamy, vanilla lifestyles and transition, especially the ones that do it with their partners because it just feels like wholesome almost,

even though it's like dirty sex. Yeah, totally. Like I always feel like I, especially like the one I just put out of Roxy is into gangbings and orgies. And, you know, you could say whatever you want about Roxy just reading the title. But 100% of the people that will listen to that podcast episode will love. Roxy and be like she is a ray of sunshine. There's only positivity there. And I think that you can't imagine feeling that way about my guess, but because I get the whole story and I really talk to people.

And that's my purpose. Like, you know, that's what I love and that's what I want to do is show people that these are likable, positive, wholesome, quote unquote, people, you know, like just not so dark or dirty, you know. And that, and that's, there's a big difference. I love that you get that. And I love that you get that and appreciate it and that's what I like. And I do also, the other other thing that I like about my show is that, you know, a lot of people watch movies and they think that that's like what life is. I think that you need to hear the good and the bad and the ugly and the happy endings and the not so happy endings because that's like real life shit, you know. So anyway. Yeah, it's like a 12-step program. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I'm, you know, and I know that program. So anyway, go on.

So, so yeah, we, it was super toxic. Eventually, we, we took a break and we both thought it was like it. We were like, we tried the whole relationship thing again. It didn't work. We didn't trust each other. We just want to be done. So we did. We took a break.

He moved out of the apartment that we shared and got his own place. And from there, we really didn't talk. at all for about four months. And finally, I was kind of experimenting in my phone looking at if you could find blocked messages. And I saw that he had texted me a couple of times just asking how I was doing. And I was sleeping around. I had a girl that I was, you know, pretty interested in. And I knew that he was, he was seeing someone as well. And I saw that he had messaged me a couple times, and I messaged him back, unblocked his number, and I was like, you know, we'll just see where it goes.

And we ended up hooking up that night. He came and got me in his car, and then we just drove up through the mountains, parked on the side of the road, and had really good sex for a really long time, honestly. Yeah, unfortunately, or fortunately, that kind of sex, like the one where you're not supposed to or you just broke up and you're like trying to not be with each other. It's just always super hot. That taboo aspect definitely made it like very naughty, dirty and it's fun. Yeah, totally.

So after that night, both of us were like, oh my God, we shouldn't have done that. And then we just could not leave each other alone again. And we basically got back together after that night. And it was great. we were having crazy sex. Like it was just re-igniting our passion. And I started to be a little bit more open with him about like some of my different kinks that I knew that, you know, he might not be into, but he at least deserves to know that I like it. Like what kind of stuff did you put out there to him?

I told them that I really like to be like very roughly dominated. So not just like a little spanking or anything. but like punched in the face. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, like really rough play and stuff like that. And that's a turn. Wait, but that's a turn on to you? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I love like like violent sex. Yeah, okay. Yeah, and then also I told him that like I was interested in pegging him and playing with his ass if he was open to it. And eventually I told him that I miss having sex with girls. It was like four months after we had gotten back together. Right. And I was like, I really miss pussy.

Like, I can't even deny it. I've been watching nothing but lesbian porn and it's not doing it anymore. Like, I need a hall pass or something. You're like, I need my facts. Yeah. And, you know, understandably, he was like, well, if you're going to fuck someone else can I? And I was like no.

And that mindset, that like kind of childish, honestly mindset of like, I want to have my cake and eat it too. But I don't even want you to look at cake. Yeah. Was, you know, another source of contempt where I was like, I deserve it. But I don't want you to have the same pleasures in life. Yeah. It's like human being 101. We're all like gross like that.

But you're not supposed to be that way. But we all have been that way at some point in our life. Come on. So I kind of dropped it. And I was like, you're definitely not fucking anyone else. And then I started watching a lot of like threesome porn and stuff and trying to get myself comfortable with the idea of like another girl joining us in bed. and I discovered something that I had never heard of before

because it's not quite as common as like the cuck, so to speak, but cuck queening. There you go, yeah, it wasn't. I've had like the first, after I had that first girl on, and I don't know if that's how you found my show, but I forget what her name was, but she was the first one to bring up that term, to talk about it. I was like, and she even said, like, it's just so hard to find porn that, you know, has that scenario and stuff.

and I feel like a lot of people have found my podcast because of that because there's not a lot of that kind of fantasy thing or whatever you want to call it that kink out there. No one talks about it that much yet there's so many women I think that maybe might be into it. Yeah. And I it's honestly like a really positive way to channel your jealousy. I, yes. If you can get off on your jealousy, that's like you won, you won over your insecurities. Yes, and I once read this is going like pretty far-fetched, and I don't think that this is always the case, but there was some psychologist who talked about people who are very, very jealous.

It's because they actually want to be doing that. It could signify a bisexual curiosity or, you know, an interest in that opposite sex or that intense jealousy could be that way. So, yeah, I think it's super interesting that you could funnel it. in a way that you make it a turn on instead of jealous. It's the same kind of energy, but you're taking it someplace else. Yeah, exactly. You're taking it from, you know, your furrowed brow, your furrowed angry brow and putting it in your clip. Yeah.

Really a positive experience. Yeah, send that energy down to between your legs. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. So I did that for a while until I was, you know, the only thing I could even come to was, like, thinking about him fucking someone else. Wow, okay. And then I brought it up to him.

I was like, hey, you know that conversation we had that, like, maybe we could try a threesome? And he was like, you're kidding. And he didn't believe it at first, obviously. Just coming from such a jealous place originally and then transitioning to, all right, let's do it. Yes, I could imagine a guy even would think, like, even if you are serious, that this could actually explode in her face because how are you the, jealous person actually going to be able to handle it. Exactly. Yeah. So, so we agreed.

And then it definitely took a while. We laid out ground rules. And, like, I had to become comfortable with seeing him turned on by other women. So we started, like, watching a lot of porn together and role playing. Honestly, it was, like, the best part of it all, I suppose. until the real thing happened is like I would have him say things in my ear like imagine me fucking another girl like this or something like that or pretending I was her. Yeah. And I was getting off to it like hard as fuck.

So after a few months of that, I was like, let's do it. And we didn't really know where to start, which is actually how I did find your podcast as I was looking for threesome recommendations on Spotify. Oh, no way. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. And eventually, we decided to try it, but again, didn't really want to, like, sign up for websites and stuff.

We were still working through some of those insecure parts in our relationship. And, I don't know. It just, we felt like we wanted it. to happen organically, like meeting someone at a bar or something before we went searching online because it almost made it like too real to be searching online for that. I totally understand the difference. Uh-huh. I understand that.

Yeah. But as it turns out, it's really hard to find a girl who wants to fuck a couple organically when you're not in like a swing or something. Yeah. That's a regular bar. That's why they call it a, you know, unicorn because it doesn't exist. Yeah. Very hard to find.

Yeah. So our first experience what actually ended up happening, it was a huge mistake. We had a couple of really good friends who I had introduced him to, or we'd been

introduced to his girlfriend, the friend's girlfriend. Yeah. And her and I really just hit it off. Like there was obviously some some sexual tension between the two of us and we were all drinking her and I got a little handsy and then you know that was kind of it for that night but then um her husband went out of town and I went over there and my partner did as well so we were both over there

drinking with her and her and I started to get a little hands again and then it went a little further and then we kind of pulled him into it um we didn't want him to like sit on the sidelines and not be involved but again it was like we were all very very drunk and so a lot of the a lot of the evening is a little bit hazy but i do know that we uh well i engaged as much as possible with her and he you know hands mouth whatever and everything but the penetration could i ask you a quick question was that a part of your guys rules at first like no penetration for him with the woman no um he just got a little uh shy in the moment i guess okay cool yeah it was uh we were all super drunk and the soldier would not stand at attention

I totally get it. Which is honestly like a good thing for that evening. Otherwise, it definitely would have happened and it probably would have been a worse outcome. Okay, wait, so you wake up the next morning. And yeah, we kind of like get the flashbacks of what happened and we're like, oh my God, we fucked up so bad. Our homie's going to hate us. We're fucked. Right.

And she ended up telling him because she felt really guilty. And he honestly wasn't that angry. Like he, he had been hinting at them to go for a little bit more of an open relationship because we had told him about what we were exploring. But he was like, yeah, I'm like, he just don't do that behind my back. Kind of like, ouch, you know? Yeah. So we're actually still friends with them.

The relationship's like a little bit weird, but we only all hang out together now. It's never just like her and us. Yeah, I don't think he'd let her. But yeah, I mean, that was the first experience. And as fun as it was to procur, it was definitely like a mistake because one of our rules that we did break was like no friends. None of our friends that are monogamous would be involved. Oh, okay. So it was like that first experience was an automatic rule broken.

And so we had to adjust accordingly and, you know, write down more rules about what went right with the evening, what went wrong, stuff like that. And about four months later, it was my 21st birthday. And we went to a big city, big party city, very different from where we're from. And I mean, I remember maybe 12% of the trip. I was just off my ass for the whole time at school birthdays go. And we went with one of my really good friends who I've had a crush on forever. and she was like very sexually open as well, very like free-spirited kind of way. And she was sleeping on the sofa sleeper and we were sleeping in one of the bedrooms.

And we asked if she wanted to just come sleep in our bed. And she said yes. Wait a second. You're breaking the no friend rule again. Did that change? No. Oh, okay. It is different with her.

We talked about her being an exception to that whole because we did know that it wouldn't harm our friendship with her. Oh, okay, because you were really super close with her. Yeah, yeah. And she's still my best friend in the whole world. I love her so much. But yeah, so she came into the bed and we honestly weren't really like planning on doing anything. And then I was in the middle. I was like spouting her and then my boyfriend was spouting me and I felt him like kind of starting to

cop a feel and I like swatted his hand away a little bit but she was like scooting her butt back into me and so I knew that she knew what was happening and she was like down with it and then he went under the blankets and started eating me out and she started kissing me and the whole the whole thing just kind of happened very fast absolutely no communication about it whatsoever but we were just

all kind of going at it in the next minute also a little bit tipsy just yeah having fun together and that was the first time that he had sex yeah with another woman

had you ever had you ever fooling around with this friend before or fooled around with her before, or was this the first time you and her hooked out? It was the first time. We've, like, made out and stuff before. We've known each other since we were very, very young. Right. And so it had always just been, like, oh, I like you.

Like, we'd slap each other's ass and we could be naked in front of each other without it being weird or anything. And, yeah, we'd kiss a few times, but it had never gotten, like, that physical, per se. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that happened. That was really fun. And we all just kind of agree that, like, that was a one-time experience. I'd be down to fuck her again, but she's got a partner now that doesn't share, unfortunately.

Right. So, yeah, just being very respectful of their boundaries together. I didn't want to push for that anymore. So that was like our second experience that way. And then after that, because unicorns are so hard to find, I kind of brought up the idea of like, well, maybe we should just swap. And he was not into it at all at first. He was like, I don't know that I could handle that. Wouldn't want to see you like with another dude.

I don't want another guy's dick in you at all. And I was like, all right, that's fair. you know, just because I'm into something doesn't mean you also have to be into something. Right. And so, and I guess I should probably clarify with the cuck-queening thing. I think we're both more of like pleasure cucks. Like we want to be there and watch them, like each other be pleasured more so than like the humiliation, degradation.

Totally. Yeah, it's funny because I talked to a lot of cucks, cuck queens and more often than not, I'm talking to someone where the humiliation aspect isn't there. I've talked to the truest of cucks. And I don't think I've met one cuck queen yet who had that humiliation aspect. I don't think it always has to be there. But I think when you have that too, it's like the truest form of what a cuck or a cuck queen is. But a lot of people, it doesn't, it's not involved. It's not a part of it. Yeah. I mean, I like being degraded, just not compared. I guess you could say. Like I like being called like a stupid slow and I'm getting slapped around, but I definitely don't want him to say like her pussy is tighter because first of all I don't think it would be true.

And second of all, it would hurt my feelings. All right, right. I get it. Shoot, where was I? So you were at the point where you're like, you know, you wanted to maybe do a swap and he was like he didn't want to see you with a guy. Yeah, and I was like, that's fine, that's okay, you know. So we really kind of put it on the back burner for a minute just because two experiences in a short period of time. Both of them were, you know, a little bit outside of what we had set up for the rules.

Yeah. So finally, we were just role playing one night. And he said something that I definitely did not expect. he said I want you to imagine another guy in your pussy while he was fucking me and I like looked up at him and I said what the fuck did you just say

and I like stopped the whole thing crawled out from underneath him because I was absolutely in shock I was like what do you mean and I could tell he was getting off on like saying that and I was like where did this come do we let's have a conversation you know

like pause on the sex Olympics for a second. And so he was very embarrassed that I like paused it and didn't just go with it. But I was like, I have questions, dude. I did not know that that was what we, that I did not know that that's what we were going to incorporate for the evening. Because usually I'm just like, I want you to talk about, you know, fucking another girl or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, I don't want to talk about it.

And he felt super embarrassed, like we were a little bit tipsy. So we just kind of stopped. And then a couple days later, I tried to bring it up. And I was like, what was that? And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And then about a week later, it happened the exact same way again. But I just kind of went with it and didn't pause the sex. And he got off on it.

And so I was like, well, there might be some. thing here after all. Right. And so I tried to very gently bring it up a couple times, but I knew that he was conflicted because he was like possessive. And also it's a lot easier, I think, for a bisexual woman to be like, yeah, I'm down to watch you fuck another girl because I'm also into girls. Like I get it. And it's a lot harder for a man who's not necessarily like into men like are not comfortable with being into men like that, um, to admit that same kind of thing, because it's like that masculinity cut thing. Yeah.

The whole stigma. Yeah, we talk about so much of my show. I know. It's so stupid. And also, it's stupid that more men aren't willing to admit they're bisexual. Yeah. And the minute they do, because listen, I grew up in a time where it wasn't even that way for women.

It shifted. There was a complete shift where it became cool to be like into girl. I never goes like, I have a girl crush. and I'm, you know, and like, girl crush this, girl, Chris, that. And so many people were copping to it. But there was a time where that wasn't even the case for women either. So it'll change eventually for guys. It's just, you know, it hasn't happened yet.

I think it's starting to come, become more normalized in society. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But definitely there just is that stigma and he was raised in a very like, men or men are men household. Totally. And so, you know, I understood that he wasn't comfortable with coming clean with that. But I was like, all right, whenever you're ready.

Yeah, right. You know it's there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it was also during this time that, like, I started pegging him. Like, he became open to me, like, full on wearing a strap on and pegging him. Which I am super into because I'm a total switch. I love being submissive as much as I love to.

be dominant and I tend to be more dominant with women than men but just kind of that like power swapping dynamic was really fun and we were both super into it so you know just just another fun little avenue to explore together while we're exploring 85 other avenues yeah so so yeah I was you know kind of experimenting with him annually and um really enjoying that and eventually he was like all right you know i i think i could probably be down with a full swap instead of just trying to find a girl and i was like all right and again i'm i'm not super into men like it typically takes an emotional connection or you have to be like really hot for me to be into you as a guy okay

And I've also never considered myself much of the size queen, so to speak. But my boyfriend's got a large penis. And so that's, I'm a custom to that I would say, yeah. Yeah. So I definitely don't want to go, you know, much smaller than what I'm accustomed to. So it was really hard to find a guy that was, you know, up to both of our standards. But we did end up getting online and making a profile. And we messaged with a few couples.

But one of the hard things about being so young and being in the lifestyle is like you're either fetishized for your age because they think you're like innocent. Yeah. I don't even know. It's like that age fetish. Yeah, a little gross. It can be a little gross. Yeah. I don't know.

Right? A little creepy. Yeah. And there's like 75 year olds trying. to hit us up because they see that we're in our early 20s and we're like, and also there's not a lot of people our age in the lifestyle yet. You know, it's becoming more normalized to not be monogamous even as you are very young. But for the most part, these couples have been married 10, 15 years.

Totally, yeah. And it's, we just don't fit in that way. We don't have a lot in common with people who are 25 years our senior other than sex. So it took a while, but we did find like a younger couple. They weren't exactly our age, but I don't really have a problem with older women as long as they're not that like fetishizing us being super young. Right. Totally. How old was the couple that you wound up meeting?

They were in their early 30s. Oh, okay, that's not bad at all. I mean, I know that when you're like in your early 20s, everything seems old, but that's not really that old compared to early 20. I don't really have an age limit. I just find it harder to find people that I would sleep with that are older than like 45. Yeah. And that's even old. I don't know.

I just remember just thinking people were so old. Like when I was in my 20s, like anyone in their 40s was like so old. But 30, you know, early 30s, I think is like a fine. You know, if you're looking around someone, your peers or someone around your age range, you know, that's early 30s is fine. Yeah. So go on. And there's some fine ass 45-year-olds. Like, I got to admit, there are some beautiful, beautiful men and women out there. And typically people in the lifestyle, you know, take care of themselves, take care of their bodies.

and they do their best to look appealing for the people they're fucking. So I appreciate that. What was it about this couple? Was it mostly their age? Was it that he had a big dick? I mean, what was it about them that they, you know? So for our first swap, our, I guess, requirements were a little bit different than like what we would look for now. We were more looking for like people.

we wouldn't feel intimidated by. I don't know if that's mean, but. No, that makes sense. Yeah, just very down-to-earth, not super attractive at first. Yeah, I don't know why that was one of our rules, but both of us felt the same way about it. So, yeah, we wanted someone who wasn't like a looker, but also wasn't ugly. I could totally understand. I could understand that.

Yeah, just, you know, for the first. experience making sure that we're both okay with it and like your first experience always brings up some jealousy that you might have thought you were over or even into that you know got got a little bit of hurt feelings and so that was just a way to mitigate it I guess yeah listen I think it's actually super smart that you guys thought of that beforehand you know some people might realize that after you know but it's very self-aware of the both of you to cop to that or know that that would be a thing for both of you up front to say that. And I think anyone listening is like, oh yeah, duh, that actually makes sense, you know, but I don't know that

a lot of people would actually put that together beforehand. So that's great that you had that requirement or came up with that ahead of time. Yeah. And it's not as, um, not as stringent anymore just because we are a bit more experienced and comfortable with ourselves and relationship and stuff. But I think for the first experience, it was definitely maybe not necessary, but helpful in having us gain confidence in singing. Yeah. And like I said, I love that. You bring that up because it's like if somebody's finding my podcast, like you went looking at one time or they're listening and they're in, you know, they haven't done it yet. I mean, maybe they're going to hear this and be like, oh, maybe we should take that into consideration, you know.

I mean, that's how you learn by listening to other people's stories. So it's, you know, these little details. are so important. Yeah, so we actually, we have a rule that still stands even now that, like, we want to meet you in person first, go out to dinner or something with no expectations and just see if we get along if our rules are, you know, correlating the same kind of way and everything like that. And so we did meet them for dinner and drinks and we all got along really well. we were super fucking nervous and they were very understanding because we did tell them it was our first time. And a lot of people don't want to, don't want to be with first timers. Yes.

You haven't, you know, full swapped before regardless of the sexual experiences we've had. Yeah, I've heard that from professional couples that they're not into that because of, you know, all the things that could go, whatever, you know. Yeah. But just before we even went, we had all of our boundaries, rules, everything like that. discussed and laid out. So we didn't seem as, it wasn't like we just decided to do it and then went out and found a couple to do it with. Right. You were very thought out. So it wasn't like you were a lot of the issues and reasons why they would not want to be with a first time couple. You guys didn't have those because you had been. You're so, you're just great at communicating

with each other and you're very upfront. So what happened that first night? I mean, when you go out and meet them for dinner, is it like, okay, we like you, we'll hook up another time, or is it, if it goes down and dinner's okay, it's going to go down that night? So we decided not to, not to sleep with them that night because we were, again, both nervous and just wanted to, like, prep a little bit more mentally before it actually happened. Uh-huh. But we did get along with them really well, and we actually made plans to, like, meet up at their house the next weekend.

Mm-hmm. So we went home and fantasized and, you know, did our thing together to, like, mentally prepare us for what was going to happen. And then went over to their house. And I actually bought a swingers game online. It's not like cards against humanity, but it's like never have I ever swingers edition. Oh, interesting. Is it good? Yeah.

Honestly, it's pretty good. And they have a lot of expansion packs. he look up what it's called actually. So it has yeah I'll put it on my social media so it has like it prompts up conversation so you could get talking about things. Yeah it was like whoever

sucked the most dick take two shots or what was another one? Like you're oh the person who has slept with the most people and the person who has slept with the least make out for like 25 seconds. So it's kind of

That's like fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It was actually really fun. We were like four questions in before we started making our way to the bedroom because, yeah, we were just all super into it. So, yeah, we ended up sleeping with them at their house.

We did, well, okay, we didn't full swap because her partner came. pretty quickly. And that was like she was on top of me eating me out and he was fucking her. And then my boyfriend was fucking my mouth. And he just was out pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, that's okay.

You know, and we just kind of kept going while he sat back. And then my boyfriend was like, is it okay? if I if I fuck her and I was like yeah and so I kind of just sat back and and watched for a little bit and I I have a preference for him not to come just because I like to have him come when he's when we're having like that reclaiming sex oh interesting he'd prefer to come but it's kind of hard for him sometimes in front of people so yeah he did he fucked her really hard for like a good minute and her partner and I were just laying on the bed like I had my vibrator on and he was honestly just laying there enjoying the view and it was kind of like watching live porn um but it's your partner

and just other guy's partner yeah and that was fun and now when you say like that that's one of your rules that he can't come he's and because you like oh no it's not a rule I just prefer not to he he He does shit. We try to, but we also have, like, when we play with other people, we, of course, use protection. And so he's not used to wearing protection normally. Oh, right. Of course. Uh-huh.

So that helps him to not come. Yeah. Yeah. So afterwards, like, we all showered together. And then we ended up, I think we ended up playing, like, Uno or something before we left. Oh, my God. I love the games that you guys play. Yeah.

Yeah, we were all just nude sitting in their living room playing Uno or some shit. Hilarious. And then we left. We went to go drive home and we were still, you know, pretty reared up. He hadn't come yet. So we pulled to the side of the road and into a little, like, business depot and finished up there. Because that kind of sex afterwards. Because I always ask, and people always tell me 100% of them.

the time, the sex after that. It just, you know, it's like top of the mountain and then it just adds to your intimacy with your partner if you're down, you know, for something like that. Yeah. And we're both like pretty into public stuff too. So like pulling over on the side of the road and going in the backseat. It was really fun as well. Right. Yeah. So we finished stuff like that and that was our first like full swap experience. We're probably going to do it again pretty soon. We did decide not to do the same couple just because we weren't as into the dude as like we were into the girl. Oh, interesting.

He's very much so, like, wants to see me get fucked with a guy with a big dick because he knows how I react with him versus how I would with something quite a bit smaller. and he wants to see me get that pleasure. Now, didn't your boyfriend admit eventually to you? Because I know that you touched upon it, but we didn't get into it totally, that he is into guys or he's not into guys? Is he into guys or he's just into watching you with a guy?

So he's by comfortable. Like, I don't think he'd seek out a relationship with a man. He gets grossed out by the thought of kissing a man, but he's admitted that he's like buried down to suck a dick or like fuck a guy in the butt. Right. Which I don't understand when you're not into the kissing part, but like you could do the other stuff. But yeah, he just he's comfortable like finding them attractive and stuff now. And it took a long time for him to even like come out and admit that just because of the household he was raised in and the social stigmas around it.

But when we finally did, it kind of made it fun because now we're looking for, you know, fully bisexual couples that would enjoy both partners. It's not like she's getting just him out of it or I'm getting just him or vice versa. It's kind of like all of us, I don't know, it's almost more like an orgy experience than a swap. Yeah, totally. And that's why I was wondering if you guys had ever looked into that. and that's what you're looking into now. So that he could be with the guy.

He's never has since he's copped to it with you. And he didn't, he hasn't had any experience before you that was like on the DL or anything like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I honestly, I was a little bit pushy in getting him to admit it.

Just because I always kind of had a feeling. He's not feminine by any means, but he takes really good care of himself. he always, you know, compliments men's haircuts, stuff like that. Like, he notices the things that a lot of men don't notice. And he's, you know, got a lot of really good hygiene quality. He's just a little bit more taken care of than most straight men I've met. Oh my God, that's hilarious.

And that's what you think is the tell? Yeah, that and, like, he's a little bit more emotional. I tend to be very dominant outside of the bedroom in our relationship. And I have a lot of like the masculine qualities of being in a relationship. And he's a little bit more submissive outside of the bedroom. Right. But that would make sense to why you're also into girls. You know, you're, you have those both parts of you.

So maybe that masculine part of you is so down for women. And his, that little feminine, not feminine, but that part of him that you say that you see as Well, maybe... Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's the part of him that is down for a guy. Now, when it comes to guys, do you guys have the same taste? Um, um, sometimes. Sometimes I, I'm so picky with, like, I like weird looking dudes.

You have to have unique features in order for me to find you attractive. Almost any woman you put in front of my face, I'm like, yeah, smash. Like, love it. She's beautiful. But men, I have to have, like, very unique, strong features to it, or I'm just not as into it. I don't know. I'm very picky with men, and he recognizes, like, the same kind of attractiveness that I do, but he's also into, like, traditionally good-looking men more so than me.

Right. So, yeah. I honestly, like, even when we're finding couples or talking to couples, my focus and attention isn't on the man except for his penis. Right. I care about that a little bit more than what they look like. Well, look at gay men. I mean, gay men, the gay men, like, you know, always have, like, the best bodies are super good looking, you know. And I think that men are very visual that way.

I feel like women, we can be attractive, attracted to a man for a lot of other reasons than his looks. Okay, that's why you walk around. You see tens with fives because you're like, what the fuck is going on there? But, you know, I don't know. Like, if you put all my guys I ever fucked or liked or was attracted to in a room, there would be nothing that made sense,

except for the fact that they just made me horny. And I don't know why. Because it wasn't because they were like, They had a hot face, a gorgeous face. Most guys just don't have gorgeous faces, you know, I'm sorry. Women, there's more pretty women than there are, like, factually good-looking men. That's another thing, too. I mean, it's just a fact, right?

I wholeheartedly agree. Yeah, I just think women are, like, easy to look at. Well, that's because, but you also, women have hair extensions. They have fake eyelashes. They have makeup. There's reasons why there's more attractive women than men, you know? So I think that that has to do with it too. But wait, we're, because we have 10 minutes left.

I just want to make sure that we have, you know, had got the full picture of all your stories. I was assuming we did. That last threesome with that, the first full swap that you had, is that your last experience that you have had? And have you ever discussed like, you know, hooking up solo or is it always going to be with you guys something that you do together? Yes. That was our last, like, experience, I guess, so to speak.

We've been talking to a couple, couples. And a lot of them just live far from us. So it's hard to schedule everything. Mm-hmm. But we talked a little bit about solo play. I'm not super into, like, not being there. If it's with him and a girl, I like to watch, I like to be there. I don't want, like, the aftermath of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even a video I don't think I'd be super into. But more so it would be like if we found a girl that was a good play partner for me and her and I could play separately or like play first and then he walks in on it. Get the party started kind of vibe. Yeah. That would be like more so what we do solo unless we had a girlfriend. And that's something else I don't think I've mentioned is like we are monogamish. We prefer that term to swingers just because we are open to other avenues aspects and whatever.

But more so like I would eventually like a girlfriend that's consistent. And he's open to that, but it's hard to have more than two people in a relationship when you already have been together for so long and it's like the dynamic of you're in her relationship, his and her relationship is, it's like nine relationships instead of just one. Yeah, yeah. And I, you know, I remember the first unicorn who I had on my show and talk about, you know, how she felt sometimes left out and not take it into consideration, you know, because when you're not part of that primary relationship, a lot of times, you know, it just feels different, you know, for that person. And, you know, so there's a lot to consider there, is all I'm saying, you know, and I think that a lot of people

don't consider that. I know I never thought of it until this person came on and started talking about. I was like, oh, yeah, duh, you know, and then other women talked about it. So when you are that third person, even if it's a polyamorous relationship, if you come in late in the game, I mean, there's a lot of things that could, you know, not go wrong, but, you know, there's a, like I said, there's just a lot to take into consideration and from that person's perspective. Because you and your partner are together, the first, you know, first and foremost. So where does that person fit in? We'd never want to date a girl and have her feel excluded or anything. Right, yeah.

Like, her relationship with us is separate from our relationship because that wouldn't be, like a true girlfriend. It'd be like a side piece. And that's definitely not how we'd want to make anyone that we would bring in heal. So that is a big consideration for us. And also that is definitely something that we'd prefer to happen organically. Like if we find a girl, we like the way she bucks and it becomes consistent that way, that's totally cool. But we're not like looking to date a unicorn just because we're open to having a girlfriend.

and we're also not looking to add one for sure. You know, like it's up for debate. It's a possibility of it happening. I would love it to happen because three sons are fun. Right. And your needs, I mean, you have a strong sexual interest, right, attraction to women. And you always want that in your life and need that. It would be a lot easier if you just had that one steady person, you know, that you, that was,

within your relationship that you could share with your partner. Have you ever, because you did talk a lot about dating, you know, fooling around with women, did you ever date a woman before you were with you, this guy or at any other time? Loosely dated a couple of girls, but more so, either I was being a unicorn for a couple, or I was bringing a girl into past relationships, stuff like. that. So it was more so like that where I had friends that I would pull around with. It wasn't so much dating as like girls would know that I was bisexual. Right. Because I've always been

very open about it. And they'd be like, hey, I want to experiment. And I'm like, okay, hop in. It's more like, you know, me being a sexual awakening for a lot of these girls. Yeah. So now, So let's come full circle. I mean, we started the episode talking about all this jealousy, you know, here you were in the beginning of this relationship, both of you, a lot of baggage of distrust with each other and just not, you know, just now you're, you've had full swabs, you've been with other people, you've really put everything that you're into on the table with each other. Do you feel like doing all that kind of stuff helped you trust each other more?

Oh, hell yeah. I think when you enter this kind of realm of, you know, you're deciding with your partner not to be monogamous. You're also deciding that I have to trust you. Otherwise, this isn't going to work at all. Yeah. And if I don't trust you and I don't voice that to you, then this is going to go wrong. Like there's always going to be something that fucks it up, one of us. And I've heard that a lot from people in the lifestyle is like a lot of young people don't last because they don't communicate about their jealousy or they get in to save their relationship when in all actuality our relationship was in the best place that had ever been when we decided to do that.

And the communication came. The communication about, you know, adding people into our sex life came from both of us being more comfortable. in the relationship and not the opposite. Right. And it's almost like being able to talk about or being open to talking about those insecurities only helps them to go away. And, you know, I think that there's, because even in the best of open relationships, people will always say, you know, of course, jealousy will come up still.

Even after all, you know, even after years of swinging or being open, you know, there could be situations that come up about it. You have to be able to feel safe enough to bring that up, talk to your partner about it and know that they'll be cool with it. And I think that, you know, that's just all communication. I don't even think I just made sense, but you know what I mean. Yeah. And it's so much easier to communicate now versus when we were holding our jealousy like against each other. Exactly. Yes. It's not a fight. It's a conversation. Mm-hmm. And you both cop to it and, you know, maybe like your little, you know, maybe that's like Or whatever I read that one time where we talked about how intense jealousy could be just the

attraction to that same sex partner, that that person is like you're worried that they're going after or something, but it's because maybe on some level you wanted. So maybe because you, I mean, you were always putting that on the table, but you know, you could really experience it with them. And maybe because he was really able to cop to it, he, you know, there's more trust there because you don't have to be, there's no secrets. I mean, maybe his, you know, fake accounts was him. like looking at gay porn or something, you know?

Who knows? You don't know, but he doesn't have to hide anything from you anymore. You know everything. Yeah, we're just very open with each other. And like, there's still kinks and stuff like that that we're exploring with one another and, like, becoming more comfortable about talking about when it's, you know, it's maybe taboo, extra taboo or embarrassing. And we try things in the bedroom. And sometimes one of us isn't into it.

Sometimes we're both not into it, but we're trying. it because, you know, we're communicating about wanting to explore. I fully, I'm so thankful to grow up in this day and age because I never, like, of course, my family wasn't super, like, cool with me being a whore. Yeah. So young, but I was cool with it, and I never had their guilt and their shame around sex affect my views on it. And I think that saved me a lot of trauma because I could only imagine, you know, being married

right now to someone who is vanilla and I would end up cheating I would I'm not monogamous I have no interest in being vanilla and I don't want to cheat on someone so to kind of avoid all three feet all three of those things I've I've just accepted you know I am definitely a slut and I do as the motto of the show says let my fleet flag fly there you go yeah, and that's the way it should be. I definitely think that, you know, kids are more evolved than their parents. I mean, that's the way it's supposed to be. You know, you should be less oppressed than your parents. You know, your parents are grew up in a different time than you. That's why they have that guilt. But you grew up, you know, so many years later and you don't have that. And that's great.

That's the law of nature. And I always say I was born in the wrong time because I was more like how girls are nowadays when I was super young, but I was considered a slut in a bad way. I had a lot of repercussions because of the way that I was. And I even just put on myself because I felt like not normal because I didn't fit into like the two boxes that existed. And now, you know, what I think is so great for you younger people. And I say it all the times, the labels and all the different people you could,

words you could use for yourself. It does help because it makes you feel like you belong, and there are other people like you and that's like wonderful. So thank you so much for calling in. I really love your story. I love how self-aware you are. I love all the things that you're trying and doing and I love how real your story is. Like I said, it's not perfect.

It's not the perfect story. That's, I fucking hate those kinds of stories. This is bullshit. I like real true stories and your story's great. It's super interesting. And you know, you're going to have to call in again when you have more experiences and learn more things about. having an open relationship at such a young age. Yeah, I definitely will. One of our goals is to

eventually like be a part of an orgy and go to clubs and stuff. So yeah, we finally reach that goal. Yes, that's when you call back in for sure. That is awesome. And maybe when your guy has been with men too, I mean, you have a lot to experience. You know, you guys just started. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's been a fun journey so far and it'll continue to be fun. Yeah, it's great. So listen, if you could send me any kind of picks. Like I do like anonymous picks on my Patreon if you want to you could send me in a couple

anonymous picks and I'll post it there but not of your face. Most girls do but if you don't it's totally fine. Yeah I'll send a couple in. Yeah, not your face like I said. You just take you know your face to not in. I say not X rated. I don't want X rated things. I don't make porn. Nothing's not the wrong with porn but

I don't do that but they could be R rated like people. The girls always send me sexy picks. They definitely be sexy picks. Send them to my Patreon. People could go there to see those. And thank you again. Like I said, thanks so much for calling in.

I'm hoping that this is like, you know, just the first time I talk to you and I'll be talking to you again soon. Yeah, it was a pleasure to talk to you. I'm a big fan of your show and can't wait to hear it.

Thanks so much for calling in. Thank you. Have a good day. You too. Bye. Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode.

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Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot, wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like

that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not. not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels.

We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.