Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 522 - Lara Loves Women and Threesomes and Orgies and More
Episode Date: August 29, 2022Lara loves women and threesomes and orgies and more and she called in to talk all about it. When did she realize she was bisexual and started hooking up with women? When did she start swinging with he...r ex husband and what exactly did they like to do? And, how did she meet her current boyfriend and when did they start swinging? Tune in for all the details which include how one of the guys she was cheating with enjoyed watching her have sex with other guys, how one of the guys he set her up with became her new boyfriend, how her and her current boyfriend started swinging and doing kinky things right from the start, how he made her squirt, how she can orgasm from giving a blowjob, their orgy with a lesbian couple at a swingers club and exactly what went down, how their extremely open communication is the key to their great sex, how they’ve tried golden showers, the second orgy they had with 5 couples and exactly what went down, how she’s dated a woman and why that dint work out, how and why their completely open relationship works how she’s going to school to be a therapist and why she wants to focus on sex therapy and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of Erica + anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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But like I said, like Erica is a 10 and a half.
And her story is great.
You're going to love it.
I talked to Sam separately, which was her guy, and he had such an, because he had such an interesting backstory, and I left her episode, I posted her episode second because she gets a lot more detailed about their relationship.
So if you haven't heard Sam's episode, you should go listen to it because he's a really interesting guy with a really fascinating backstory as well.
And where we left it off is like he meets Erica, the girl of his dreams are very well suited for each other.
And she takes over from there.
Now, she also has an interesting backstory.
She got married super young, had a lot of kids, was cheating like crazy.
Her husband was cheating.
And she was always, like Sam, they were very similar.
I mean, she was always into SCX, like from the get-go.
She was swinging with her other husband, her first husband.
She was really into girls.
She's still very into girls.
But she was doing some action on the side.
and she was cheating on her husband
and one of the guys she was cheating on
and got her into hotwifing.
He was like, hey, you should like bang my friends.
I would love to like see that.
And she talks about a couple scenarios
of that, you know, that guy set up.
And one of them was a scenario with the guy she's with now, Sam.
So he hooks her up, bang one of his friends.
This is separate from her husband.
And then she winds up having this relationship with Sam.
And they do all kinds of stuff.
They are really like sexual soulmates,
but they're also like soulmates on every other.
level. And she talks about that. She talks about all the crazy things they did. They went into
their relationship open, seeing other people. She's dated girls. He has still a couple that he sees on the
side, but they very much play together. They've had orgies. They do golden showers. She hooks up with
girls. They have like all kinds of stuff going down. And she explains it all. She's great. You're
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But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Erica.
Hi, Erica.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I'm doing well.
Thank you.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm a little excited to talk to a hot wife, only because I know it's like a hot topic.
You know, and you want to tell me your whole hot wife origin story.
You're in a partnership.
Is this a husband or a boyfriend that you have?
It's a boyfriend.
Okay.
Cool.
boyfriend. Okay, cool. Now, how long have you guys been dating? We've been together about 15, 16 months now.
Oh, okay. So that's brand new. I love it. You sound super young. I'm not. I'm almost 40.
No, you're not. Well, you're very immature because you sound super young. And that's because that's why, not immature, but you're young at heart because you haven't been married yet. You have no kids. Do you have kids?
I do. Oh, you do? I have four children. Yeah.
Oh, wow. Interesting. Okay, so I'm so wrong, but that's like really, you sound like you're 25, but I'm going to change your voice. So you might sound really old when I change your voice. All right. So you're almost 40. You have four kids. I don't even want to go there yet. So you're been dating a new guy. Were you ever married before this guy?
Well, yes. I was married when I met my partner.
Oh, okay. So where do you want to begin? Okay, because I feel like there's a lot here.
So I'll just begin at the beginning about the around 2021, January of 2021.
I began hooking up with a family friend.
Okay, but you were married.
What was going on in that marriage?
I was married at the time.
Okay.
So back up for my marriage, my ex-husband was quite a bit older than I am.
And when we first got together, I was only 20 years.
old and we began swinging almost immediately.
Oh, yeah.
How are you not going to tell me about that?
You have to start there.
Sorry, but we can't.
We'll get to the how we're wiping, but let's talk about swinging with the first husband.
So we started swinging within maybe a couple months of dating.
Uh-huh.
And it started because I told him that I was bisexual and I enjoyed sexual experiences with
women. I hadn't had very many of them, but I knew, like, I've known forever that I was bisexual.
Right. So he brought up the idea of, like, going to a swingers club. And the first time we went,
I actually had to use a fake ID. Because you were that young. Why? You had to be like 20 to get in?
I was, yeah, and I was 20. Oh my goodness. And so for about six months, going to the swingers club,
I was using a fake ID.
And we only did kind of girl on girl play.
We did some soft swap and where like partners would swap and just go down on the male partner.
But like primarily it was only.
You with the girl.
Me with the girl.
And then he and the partner would be watching.
Or we'd just have three sums with another girl.
And you're going.
Was he allowed to like bang the girl too?
Or did you have bound?
Yeah.
I didn't care about that.
He was more, he didn't like me being with another guy.
But, and he pretty much, he would look at couples online if we were, like, meeting them for dinner or drinks.
So we did that for, we got married 18 months later when I was 21.
And we did the lifestyle stuff probably for about three or four years together.
And then we started having kids and life started getting busy.
and we just stopped doing it.
And about nine years ago,
I left him for the first time.
I had been seeing someone else that I met
and I realized I didn't want to be married anymore.
And things were never great between my husband and I.
Like, looking back, I realized.
Yeah, I would think.
Because I mean, I was like treating.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
way too young, just didn't know what I needed in a partner.
Of course.
And just the marriage wasn't great.
The sex was not good at all.
Like looking back, I realized the swinging was the hotness in our relationship.
And then once that was gone, there was nothing.
That's interesting.
There was no real physical connection there.
Right.
Without all those other people, just you and him alone, it wasn't hot.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
But we ended up getting back together for the kids.
I had two more kids
and things were just pretty shitty
all around.
He was very controlling.
We got along fine day to day,
but there was no connection there at all.
And let me ask you this quick question.
Did he know, when you left him that first time,
did he know that you were seeing somebody else?
He did.
Right.
So I would think, I mean, how does he take you back
and not have resentment?
I'm sure it was just all still there.
I think he did his own share of as well.
I don't think that it was excited.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so we got back together, two more kids, and then things were pretty crappy.
And he actually has his own place just due to some work situations.
And I had gone to drive him during COVID.
and dropped him off at his apartment, went inside,
and fell two wine glasses in the sink.
And I realized, and I had seen like a couple things on his phone.
He had had a surgery, and I had his phone,
and I saw a couple things on there that were definitely questionable.
So at that point, I was just kind of like,
all right, if you're going to fuck around, I'm going to fuck around too.
And so the opportunity,
presented itself in January of 2021 and I started hooking up with a family friend. Now was this a guy?
This is your guy now. I know you want to call him Sam. Now was Sam? So this is not the guy.
Oh, this is a different guy. Oh, okay. So I'll call this guy Tim. Okay. So Tim and I start
hooking up January of 2021 and in March of 2021, he brings up hot wife.
to me. Oh, okay. And he, I hadn't really heard of it before. I didn't really know what it was,
but I, one of my kinks is just like anonymous facts. And I had not really done it, but I always thought it was
really hot. And he was like, I'm going to have my friends just come fuck you. And you're not going to
know them ahead of time. And it could be a guy or a girl. And at first it was just like bedroom
top.
But then he ended up setting it up with one of his friends.
And his friend came to my house, came to my house.
We banged.
He left.
And then Tim and I, like, it was really hot for us.
Like the next time we were together just talking about it.
Yeah.
So then he ends up setting me up with Sam.
And Sam and I start texting, which I hadn't done with.
the first guy. So this is interesting. So Tim, the guy you're just like hooking up with because he's like
into you begging other guys, he winds up connecting you with Sam, the guy you're with now. Yes. Oh,
okay. So Sam ends up texting me and immediately we hit it off. Just on a very surface, sexual level,
like we're sending each other news and he is a daddy dom.
And so he was talking about that.
And I didn't have any experience in BDSM, but I was curious because I'm into
rough stacks.
So we started texting for about a week before we met.
And we set the date.
He came over to my house.
And we had like the most amazing sex of my entire life that very first time.
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Now, are you living with your husband? I mean, or is
and you just do it in the house when your
husband's out? Oh, you're rarely naughty.
Right. Yes.
Yeah.
Yes. So
we have,
I mean, the most
amazing sex. He makes me squirt for the first time ever, our very first time. Oh, wow. And you had never
squirted before. I had never squirted before. Interesting. Uh-huh. And we started off with a blowjob.
He fucked me. He made me squirt. We had anal. I mean, we did it all the first time. It was amazing.
And afterwards, we were both kind of like, what the fuck? Because he was also in a relationship.
And you were in two relationships, okay?
Yes, I was in two.
And Tim was actually on the phone listening to us the whole time.
Okay.
That first time.
So I kind of realized right from the start that, wow, this was something a lot different.
And Sam and I just continued texting, and then we just started hooking.
up any chance we could.
Oh, without even Tim being the Wrangler?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
So things with Tim went by the wayside pretty quickly after that.
Yeah.
And Sam and I, like, we started talking on the phone, texting, and it evolved past, like, the hookup into a relationship.
Oh, okay.
Pretty quickly.
and we still continued to see each other and bang as much as possible.
And then we went to a swingers club like two or three months in.
Because I had told him, look, same thing I did with my husband.
Like, I'm really into girls.
Yeah.
And he had done some lifestyle stuff in a previous marriage.
So he was down, down to explore.
And so it's really just taken off from there.
Yeah, but let me ask you a question because you got four kids, okay, and a husband,
and you're cheating.
Like, where do you find the time?
Where do you tell your husband you're going when you go to that Swingers Club the first time with him?
I was watching the kids.
The kids were with him.
Yeah.
The first time.
I mean, do you remember?
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember.
It was around my birthday, and I just told him that I was having a girl's night for my first.
birthday.
And I don't like lying.
I don't, it's not something I like to do.
And primarily the cheating I was doing was during the day, like when the kids were at school.
Right, right.
I'm in school full time, so it was conducive to that.
So from there, so we went to the Swingers Club the first time and just had a very natural
time together.
That was kind of our first big date out.
Uh-huh.
I mean, we had gone out for drinks and stuff, but not really spent a whole night together before.
And we, I actually had my first experience with a lesbian couple that night.
Where?
At the swingers club?
At the swingers club.
And how did that go down?
Normally, I mean, I haven't heard that one before.
I know.
I had, so when I had been swinging previously, I had never seen lesbian couples.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Yeah, that's pretty rare, right?
I think it's more common now.
Oh, interesting.
I don't know.
I mean, 15 years later, 17 years later, I think it's more common than it was better.
Yeah, you're right.
Were they younger?
Yeah, they were younger.
I would say 20s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we kind of just ended up in like an orgy situation.
Like they had actually brought a guy with them.
Uh-huh.
So it was the two women, the guy, and then Sam.
And we all, we ended up in this play.
that was just a big round bed and I was sucking off Sam while one of the girls was beating me out
and I was kind of alternating between Sam and this other guy and it just kind of turned into
like a no whole bar everyone's doing everyone that like everyone's messing around yeah and did the
lesbians fool around with guys during that little yeah so Sam was like fingering the one and
she was sporting all over and Sam's just like an incredible lover like I can't I can't even begin
to go there like it's just unbelievable definitely we're on the upward pleasure spiral because
every single time we're I mean we're a full on couple now 16 months later yeah and we are
fucking all the time and it's just as good
every single time.
Right.
It's not better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How's not.
So that lesbian couple orgy, so it was the two women, you and then the guy they brought
and your guy, all just getting it up.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
So that was a great first experience with him at the Swingers Club.
Definitely wanted, left to be wanting more.
And throughout the fall, we just started doing other stuff.
Like we started bringing in single guys and having three thumbs.
We started doing this more BDSM play and developing our relationship, like, as the month went by.
I ended up leaving my husband in October.
Okay.
So what happens?
Like, is it because you're, like, so involved with Sam emotionally at this point and you want to be with him?
No, it was really just.
A culmination. Sam was maybe a little bit of a catalyst, but my ex-husband and I, we had been in counseling.
We had been just actively trying to kind of save our marriage and it was going nowhere.
And so we separated and it's very amicable.
There's no animosity there or anything.
He did not know about Sam at the time.
And so everything on that front, it was just the marriage had really run its course.
It was the wrong match from the jump.
Listen, I think there's always going to be people that can get married in their 20s and last forever.
And they're the fucking lucky ones.
But most of the time, I would say the majority of people, the thing about being in your 20s is that you really grow a lot and very fast.
Like every year you could be like a different person.
You're really not formed yet into who you are.
So the chances of staying on the same path with somebody that you're.
you meet very early on and growing. Each person grows and changes in life. That's what life is about.
It's just natural thing that happens. The chances of you growing and changing and still being on the
same page or wanting the same things is easy. It doesn't happen all the time. So I think that's the
reason why people just grow apart. And I love that you don't put a negative spin on it. You're like,
it's just like what had happened. And there is no animosity. Like it was what it was for the time that
it was, but it wasn't meant to be forever. Like you were a different person 10 years later.
agree right and we were married for 15 16 years it's a long time it was a long time and I just I didn't know what I needed in a partner when I was young
you didn't even know yourself how do you don't even fucking know who you are yet you have to figure all that out
that's what your 20s are all about and that's what's great about it you're just trying out different things I was in my 20s
I understand if I married anyone in my 20s I would have been divorced five times too you know what I mean I would have had all the lovers too
it's because it's but listen there's always going to be people that can do it and I'm not saying every person that gets married in their early 20s isn't going to last but I think a lot of people wind up looking across them and be like who the fuck are you and why did I marry you 10 years later because you're a different person and a lot of people stay together because they have kids you know and because it is very hard to do that kind of thing to your kids and I get that's probably you probably stayed an extra seven years just for your kids right I mean you 100% yeah so anyway so anyway
So you left him.
It was time to move on.
And now you're dating Sam.
Now, did you say that Sam was in another relationship as well, or was that Tim?
He was.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
And that also has ended.
He was not married.
How old is he?
So he's older than I am as well.
He's 16 years older than I am.
So he's 55?
He's 54.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So he's 54.
He was in just a relationship.
He wasn't married anymore or anything like that.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
And that relationship, I think, had also, I mean, I know had also run its course.
It was just one of those things where there was a lot of comfort and convenience there.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we just, we continued just going deeper on every level.
And it's continued throughout this time.
I mean, sexually, it's pure fire, but then emotionally, spiritually, it's equally that.
that intense.
Oh, interesting. So you're really like
met your right person for you.
And you knew that immediately, right?
I knew it. The first time we kissed, I knew it.
Yeah, interesting. Uh-huh. And did he,
does he feel the same way? Like it was, he knew right away. Yeah.
He does as well. But we've
maintained an open relationship
this entire time as well.
Interesting. And now how, so, because you met
in a different kind of way, it wasn't like you met on Match.com.
You met just as a hookup and then the feelings came later.
And I've said this before my show that a lot of times that's the easier way to get into things
because you're not really thinking, oh, I got to lock this guy down.
So I have to hide who I am because maybe he thinks I give too good a head.
He won't bring me home to his mom.
You know what I mean?
Like you're not.
You don't care.
You're just like because you just want to have good sex, you know?
So and then it turned into that later.
And sometimes that's the best way because you don't, it's there's, there was never.
any fear of you being who you were because you really weren't looking for anything but you had
nothing to lose. So you went in fully like I'm into all this shit and he was too and you've been
having like the best time. Yes. And that's it. And we've talked about that so many times because
if you meet someone in a vanilla way and you have all of these fantasies, you're so sexually
open to many different things, you're going to have that guard up like well what if they think,
I'm a whore.
What if they think I'm a slut?
Yeah.
What if he think I'm nasty?
Yeah.
Whereas he's like, I think you're a slut and you're nasty.
And he loves that.
It's positive, right.
He's positive.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel like I can bear my entire self
to him in every way.
And there's zero judgment.
It's just deepens our connection.
Yeah, and how great is that?
because you don't have and probably for him too he's older than you so i mean i think a guy that's
really into the lifestyle and into all these kind of kinky things would also have the same trouble
sitting across from a girl that he met on match dot com and saying hey like i want to see you fuck other
people you want to go to swingers club i mean she run away right right and for us i mean we do
do lifestyle things, but we keep it limited and we say like we're a couple in the lifestyle.
We're not a lifestyle couple because we've found there's some couples where it just becomes their
entire identity.
Yeah.
And he kind of had a similar experience.
Like his lifestyle experience came later in his marriage, than minded.
But it was a band-aid over a dying relationship, not something that we kind of enter.
in because you both think it's super hot.
So it's been really, really fun and interesting.
I am actually in grad school,
would become a therapist and I would like to be like a sex and relational therapist.
Yeah, that's great.
Especially for women in our society,
there's still just a stigma for women who love sex,
who are empowered in the bedroom to know what they want,
to know how to get what they want, to voice what they want.
And there's so many couples that have either a deathbed or they have like a loss of connection across their entire relationship because their sexual connection isn't strong.
Yeah.
It's a definite piece of the pie that has to be there.
It's not the end all be all.
I mean, the opposite couple who like all the sex is so great, but not any other part is good.
So that doesn't last either.
Right.
They're like toxic as fuck everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's been my whole life, okay?
That was my relationship.
The sex was the only good thing.
Everything else was bad.
But, you know, so it is important.
It's a big part of it.
It's not the total part, and it shouldn't be, but, you know, but it is a part of it,
and it does need to be there.
Because what's the difference?
If you have all those other things, but you don't have any kind of physical connection,
then that's like a really great friend.
You know what I mean?
Like the difference between your friends and your lovers is sex.
100%.
And I think that men recognize that more than women do.
Yeah.
Well, listen, it's that whole thing.
Like before when we and you talked, I'll just say like when you told me your name, I'm like, oh, Eric, like when you made up your name, Erica, I was like, oh, yeah, that's a good slutty name.
And I'm like, oh, I mean slutty.
You're like, no, I love slutty.
I mean, because bloody and slut, when I was growing up, I'm even older than you is like it was such a bad connotation.
And that was every woman's fear because that girl, that's.
slut, the girl that really likes sex, the girl that will fuck a guy, even if she's not dating him
when I was growing up, was the girl that you never brought home. I can't tell you how many,
I once had a really good friend and I didn't talk to him for a whole year because he was like,
he literally said these words to me and it wasn't the first time I heard it. He said, you're the
girl that guy's fuck. You're not the girl that guy's married. Like, do what I mean? But in like,
to me the funniest thing is that all my guy friends that wind up got married and everything
the psychos that they wound up with and whatever.
They would have been better off if they married me.
But I was just a girl that you fucked because I like sex, you know, whatever, whatever.
But it was a, it was like a, there was this big negative connotation to it.
And women had to, I think, repress that part of themselves for sure or else they wouldn't get what they wanted, which was the white picket fence and the husband and all that stuff.
And there's probably a lot of women out there still hiding the fact that they want to go down on a girl or they would maybe love to like to, like,
like fuck another guy or maybe they want to do anal.
And they're just keeping it under wraps and they're
just sexually repressed.
Right. Oh, yes.
And I've just, I mean, my
sexual ability has grown exponentially
in my time
during my relationship with BAM.
I mean, I went, like I said, I never squirted
before. Yeah.
To now I am very
multi-orgasmic.
Oh my God, you're living my life.
You're living my dream life.
Those are the two things that are like I can't do that I wish I could.
I mean, and I have every type of orgasm.
I have just like internal like G-Fa.
I have cervical.
I have anal orgasms, clitoral, every type of orgasm.
I even, I had listened to your gas Susan Bratton on a different podcast.
Yeah.
And I can actually make myself squirt now from giving head because of.
You're a fucking kidding.
she has talked about.
I'm not kidding you at all.
So wait, nothing's touching you at all?
Nothing is touching me like in the genital area at all.
It's only from sucking dick.
And I can full on squirt.
I mean, I think a lot of guys just came in their pants hearing that.
I think you just made a lot of guys that are driving, get a Woody.
Yeah.
So that makes doing blowjob.
really exciting.
Wait, what was the fucking technique
she told you about?
So you have to be
highly aroused. So it's a technique that you
want to do after what we
normally typically do for this.
I will start riding
and like have a few
orgasms, squirt a few times.
Either reverse
calgary or I'll just facing him
with him
laying down on the bed.
Then I'll stop and I'll take his
cock and if you go right past like it's a hard palate in your mouth there's like a soft section
right past that in the roof of your mouth and i just kind of use his cock and stroke that area
with the tip of his cock until i come wait a second i got to tell you something i'm taking my
tongue to that area and like flicking it a little bit and I could feel a connection.
Yeah.
It is connected to your pussy for sure.
You could feel that.
Yes.
Oh my God.
Susan Bratton.
Why didn't that bitch tell me that when she was on my show?
I just listened to her episode a couple of days ago.
Did she say it on my show or somebody else?
No, she was saying on your show.
She was talking about like squirting on your show and just like all of the erectile, like
the erectile.
like the tissue that have to get erect for women.
And that's 100% true.
Like I will, it doesn't happen.
Like if I just, you know, like this morning we were laying in bed and I just gave
on head.
It didn't happen then because I wasn't aroused to that degree.
Yeah.
But once I get to that degree, I can, I mean, I'll make myself for it like three
or four times doing that.
Oh my God.
So wait till before we get it, I'm going to, you're going to give me some like hot
stories, I'm sure.
But I just feel like I want to ask you a million questions about your technique and
everything because I think a lot of people are listening and like, oh, they want to be like you.
Like for me, I'm like, how did you go? I want to know, like, before Sam, you had never
squirted, were you never multi-orgasmen? Like, are all these things new?
I was multi-orgasmic to a point. I was, you know, I could have multiple orgasms.
I didn't have multiple types of orgasms. Like, I could have multiple clitoral orgasms.
Yeah. But not, I wasn't having like, G, five.
or cervical or coming from anal prior to him.
But with him, it's just been a lot of communication.
Communication is the number one technique to having hot stack.
Right, for sure.
And a lot of times that comes from outside of the bedroom.
And Susan actually talked about that in your episode with her.
I know it was a couple years ago that you had that interview,
but I just listened to it a couple of years ago.
So it's very fresh in my mind.
And she says, women's arousal begins way outside of the bedroom.
Right.
And we need to be tuned in to our partner and feeling that desire throughout the day.
If you're going to have a hot night.
Like you can't just be very transactional throughout the day and then have mind-blowing sex.
Right.
Right.
It's just not going to happen.
Mm-hmm.
So one thing that Sam and I really focus on, we're very appreciative of each other.
And my love language is words of affirmation.
And he knows that.
So he will just constantly be filling my cup, not in a creepy way, but just like, you know, if I cook him breakfast, he's like, I really appreciate you making my breakfast.
It was delicious.
Thank you for doing that.
Right.
And just being very intentional, not just like, thanks for breakfast.
being intentional and we are constantly touching each other, not even in a sexual way,
just holding hands, I stroke his arm, just very connected all the time.
So that makes it a lot easier to have those connected sexual conversations with each other.
And we will talk about desires either on the phone or via text if we're not together.
We'll watch porn and I'll send him something that I got off.
to even if it's like really fucking nasty porn.
Right.
I'm like okay.
You could share it with him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's cool.
And we, I mean, we've done everything.
Like, we had an orgy to like he gives me golden showers.
And when we, like, it is, it's really like the sky is the limit to our sexual depth with
each other.
But at the end of the day, like the hottest times we have together.
are the times where we just have three or four hours to connect.
And it's unbelievable every single time.
Yeah, that's so interesting.
So just the intimacy with you and him,
all that other stuff, though, feeds that, I'm sure.
Yeah, all of the other stuff is in addition, like sprinkles on the cupcake.
Like, if you eat the cupcake and the sprinkles aren't there, it's still just as fucking good.
Exactly, right.
If not better, like you said, like that by far,
always the best thing is you guys together.
Right.
Yeah.
And so then when we're in the bedroom together,
I feel very comfortable with, you know,
not like a robot giving instructions.
Right.
But if what he's doing feels good, I'm like, yes, baby.
Like, or, you know, yes, daddy.
Oh, you like that feels good.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he does the same for me.
Your partner is not feeling what you're feeling.
So if you don't communicate what feels,
good and what doesn't or what doesn't feel the best, then you're just like reinforcing something
that's not working for you.
Yeah, I know.
And the weirdest thing is, I mean, I was never a girl that couldn't speak my mind.
And so I always had great sex because I always told guys what the fuck to do.
Like I was like, no, go up, move over there.
Don't do that.
I'm going to hold their dick when we're having anal sex.
I'll put it in.
You know, all this stuff.
And I just had so many girlfriends that would be like they never had an orgasm
with the guy.
And I just never understood it.
But what I really came to understand is that just like the most,
women don't speak up. They don't tell somebody what they want. They just assume that this guy's going to know and they don't. Like you said, that they don't feel it. And it's you do need to have that kind of communication. I just couldn't believe that so many women don't. For me, it comes naturally just to just be myself. That's just who I am. But I think, and I think women are much more like that now, the younger girls. But in my generation, I think that that was a big problem. And I'm sure there's a lot of women that are listening right now that still don't tell.
they're a guy what they fucking want or what they like or just move it over or do this no don't do that
right right I agree I agree and I think that is it's all about empowering women in the bedroom
to like take control of their sexuality because men will have that orgasm right no matter what we do
like it's going to happen right for women right for women we need the connection and we need a
communication to make it happen.
Yeah, for sure. Let me do, let's tell, let's tell some, some good stories.
You just like threw out there like, oh, we've had orgies.
We've done golden showers.
Like, tell me some stories.
Well, okay.
So the orgy story is, it's not that hot, but it is.
Yeah.
We went to this.
We've only been to this club like three times.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, three times.
So this was on our last trip there.
And we had been communicating with one couple on a.
app just to kind of let them know like, hey, you know, we're going. And they were, they said they
were going and they had some friends coming as well. So we get to the club and we're just
standing around having drinks. And the way the club is set up, there's a bar area, a dance
floor. And then downstairs are all of the playroom. Yeah. So we were talking and the women,
they weren't really my type. I love Latino women. I love long, dark hair. I have long, dark hair. I have
long dark here. I have kind of a little bit of an ethnic look and I love that in other women as well.
I'm also petite and I love petite women. I love just kind of being equally sized, if not a little bit
bigger just because I do like to dominate women a little bit. And so we're having like we're chit
chatting with this. There's like six people. Maybe it's like three or four couples. And this
woman walks by and she is just a fucking smoke show. She's probably 45. She's got like large
kits, short white dress, Latina. I'm like, goddamn, I got to go talk to this woman. And this is
your honor Swingers Club, right? Yeah. Meanwhile, like, Sam's totally into all the women that are there
because he prefers, like, I'm not his ideal body type at all. Like, he prefers, like, curvier, blonde,
athletic build. Yeah. And that's like his, he's a black guy, like, just more in his
wheelhouse to be, uh, just, I don't want to be stereotypical, but he likes the big ass and
blonde hair. Uh-huh. Okay. So he's just kind of like, he wants to make me happy. So he's like,
all right, we'll go talk to this woman. So we leave the group and we go to talk to this couple.
And as hot as she is, she has zero personality.
The only thing she said was she was like, oh, I saw you at the bar and I came back and told my husband, like, there's this really hot woman by the bar and I'm so glad you came over to talk to me.
And that was like the only positive thing she said.
Like she was just a wet blanket.
Yeah, yeah.
And so, and you've been talking to me for a little while now.
Like, I'm pretty chatty.
And I'm just trying to draw this woman out a little bit and just going nowhere.
So I'm like, well, we're going to get a drink.
So we
We just walked to the bar
I think we went
No we went to the bathroom
And as we're like
Coming out of the restroom
Like separately
One of the guys was like
Oh my God
Like we've been looking for you guys
We're going downstairs to a room
To a what?
To a room
Like a playroom
For a guy from one of the original
Six or eight people
Who we were talking to
Before Sam and I split off
To talk to the Latina
Woman
So we're like, all right, let's go.
So we walked down the stairs.
We walk into this room.
It's maybe like three beds pushed together.
And there's four couples plus us.
So it's five.
All of the girls are five.
So it's five, yes, five couples, ten people, five, five women.
And, you know, just like condoms everywhere.
Also, we had the shades open so people could watch us.
Oh, okay.
And we just get down there.
And we're the last ones in because they had been looking for us.
And it's just like everybody's already naked.
I ripped my dress off.
I just have on like a really sticky dress, like no bra or panties or anything.
And Sam said he's still trying to undo his pants and I'm like sucking two cocks already.
Oh my God.
That's my girl.
Yeah.
It was a great time.
Yeah.
Let me tell you, it was great.
One of the guys had a Prince Albert piercing.
I actually didn't play with him.
He was the only one, the only one of the guys that I didn't fuck me, which I was a little disappointed with.
I did give him head.
But I wanted to experience that Prince Albert.
I don't know if you could feel it with a condom on or not.
I'm kind of, I was very curious about it.
Oh, right.
Yeah, I wonder.
Yeah.
And I also have, I have a clip piercing, a vertical hood piercing.
And his wife had a bunch of piercings too.
So I was really feeling that.
And it was just a great time.
Like I look over, Sam has a woman like straddling his face.
Like he loves giving oral sex.
And he was going to town on her while another woman was sucking his cock and getting fussed by someone.
Like it was just full on porn.
Everybody was hot.
everybody was just hot bodies.
All the guys were well hung.
You couldn't have asked for a hotter scenario.
Okay, but you did start off this little orgy conversation saying,
like, it's not really that hot of a story,
but it is hot, I think.
I don't know.
I don't think you know how to explain things.
Not, no, no, you may be.
No, no, no, you explain things.
You don't know how to title things, okay?
Because your explanations are fantastic.
It's the title.
You like titled this next explanation.
You know, it's not really that hot of an orgy, but I'll just tell you about it.
Sorry, but it sounds kind of hot.
I think everyone's going to love it.
It was.
Well, if you want to hear something funny, there was one guy.
Yeah.
And he was annoying as fuck.
Whenever we're talking upstairs.
Mm-hmm.
And I'll call him Dino.
Yes.
And he was just an.
an asshole.
Right.
And we get down in the room and I see him down there.
I was like, ah, fuck.
And one of the guys was like, if everyone okay with everyone?
And I was just, my plan was just to kind of fear clear of him.
We get done with the orgy.
And we go back upstairs and I said this and I was like, that was great.
I'm just so glad that Dino never fucked me.
Oh, no.
He's like, what are you talking about?
He's like, what are you talking about?
I'm like, Dino.
like you're so fucking annoying like I'm glad he never fucked me he's like baby he fucked you after
so and so I'm like are you serious he's like yeah like the one guy pulled out and dino like strapped
down the condom and like went right in like right where the other guy took off or and I was like
sucking another guy off where I was eating a girl I don't remember so I didn't notice
hilarious okay that's a great story
Oh my God.
Next time if you have someone,
it's like if we're ever in that situation again,
I'm like, yeah,
I'm sure if that's going to happen again
where we're in like a naked pile
and there's one person that I don't want.
Yeah, that he's going to tap you on the shoulder like,
excuse me, this is the one guy you don't want to fuck you.
I mean, I was going to say like where was your head at
in between some girls' legs?
You don't even know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
Everyone was very safe.
It was all like, everyone wore condoms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was all very safe.
It was just, I was, I was, my squirting was like the circus trick of that orgy.
Everyone was like into watching it and stuff you mean.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
It was like the splash zone at SeaWorld, you know?
Like if you're in this zone, you're going to get wet.
Oh.
Now, I have been slightly disappointed sometimes when I've talked to many women who squirt,
and I always ask a lot of questions because that's like I talk about how it's always been something
I've wanted to do and I never can master.
And there's been a couple times that I talk to women who are very indiscurting.
And it's not really that great.
It's not that.
It's not like the orgasm is any better.
Sometimes it's not that great.
I mean, do you, and sometimes it doesn't happen at the same time as you have an orgasm?
I mean, do you feel like when you squirt, it's not that.
really pushes you over the edge. Is it as amazing as I think it's supposed to be, or is it just
not that big of a deal? I would say it depends. Sometimes the squirting and the orgasm happens
simultaneously. Yeah. I am an ejector. Yeah. So when the squirting happens, I shoot the penis out of my
vagina. Wow. Along with the ejaculate. So it's a little
sometimes like
Sam and I are fucking
it can disrupt his rhythm
he doesn't mind
he fucking loves it
but sometimes I'm just like
I get a little annoyed
with myself
because I'm like
oh my God
I've squirted a gallon
I can't do it anymore
so then I'll concentrate
on not doing it
and then I can't come
so I just kind of
just read it slow
it feels great
it feels like a relief
and I have read
I'm a researcher
just by nature
so I have read like every squirting article out there like is it pee is it not pee
I can stand as witness I will pee right before I will squirt a gallon and a half literally
the other night Monday night you're fucking in the bathroom and I had a puddle like I had
filled an entire glass of water wow and then after we're done I'll pee again and
we've been in situations where we have this we call it moisture mitigation.
I have put like a waterproof blanket down and then towels.
But you know, we've been in situations where we're at a hotel or something.
We don't use it.
Yeah.
And the next morning, like you wake up and it's dry and it doesn't smell or anything.
That's what I mean.
I was going to say, you guys do golden showers too and this is like the perfect segue into that.
So I feel like you know the difference because you totally know the difference.
You play with pee too, right?
So you would know.
I remember there was, I worked with a lesbian girl once in it.
And she was like, her partner and her really into golden showers and peeing on each other.
And she was like, oh, the smell, we had to get rid of our mattress.
Well, we never do it into bed.
It's always in the shower.
Yeah, that's what I would think.
I mean, but that's what I'm saying, like what you just made the point that when it dries and you're just squirting,
you would smell it if it was pee.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's not pee.
I am here to say it is not pee.
I'm here to say, ladies, if you're getting fucked or fingered or being eaten out, I mean, I will, like, Sam will eat me out and I will just overflow his mouth with squirt.
I'm just here to say, ladies, let it go.
Like if you start feeling the urge to pee while you're getting pleasureed, let it go.
Right.
Because that's what it is.
That's what I never know.
Yeah.
That's what it's all about.
And a lot of women don't know that and they don't want to and they hold it in.
But that's really squirt and it's not going to be pee.
It's not going to come out as pee.
It's not going to be pee.
Right.
It's not going to be pee.
Yeah.
So golden showers.
Perfect segue.
They have one woman that is.
he plays played with for a number of years in the BDSM capacity and she was really into them
and I was kind of like I don't know never done it never really thought about it it's not really
my thing and in one time we just I don't even remember the very first time it was after I think
it was after like an intact scene we were in the shower and he was like get on
your knees. And I did. And then he gave me a golden shower. Like peed on your face, peed on your
tits, peed on your... It was on my tits. Okay. It was on my tit. Yeah. And we've done it a couple
times. Like he has peed on my face once or twice. It's not really, that's probably my least favorite.
But what I am into, which we've been doing, not regularly, but maybe like once every few weeks,
like we'll get in the shower together. And I will use his pee.
on my clit in the shower.
Yeah, no, I've mentioned this before on my show.
I once had a guy friend tell me that he had this girl and she would sit on the toilet,
right?
And this is like, and I was like, oh, that kind of sounds like a hot move.
I've talked about it on my show before.
But like you sit down, right?
And he said he would like pee on her and it would like hit her clit.
You know what I mean?
And he would make her crumb.
And I was like, I kind of understand that it's warm.
It's penetrating.
You know, I could see.
I was like, that kind of sounds hot.
Like I could get it.
I could try that.
So that's what you're doing in the shower?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
And it's very erotic and hot.
Yeah.
It's everything.
And yeah, it's just been great.
It's all great.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even think that there's anything probably.
Is there any, like, are you, are you like into two guys?
Do you see people separately?
Is it always together?
How does the open relationship besides these?
like hot stories you told me like how is it really work out between you guys so during probably
the first probably right until around the one year mark uh-huh i was dating separately um just because i had
been in such a long-term marriage yeah he really encouraged me like go out do your thing i had a tinder
profile i went on some days i messed around with a couple people girl a girl and two different
guys and it was just it was fine i had fun i enjoy people i'm i love you i'm a social person i'm
great as dirty as i am with sam i have my mom friends that we just have regular wine night and
and all that and i'm just a hundred percent focused on my kids as well like this is all yeah i'm not
just banging 24-7 um but i'm great i've met some great people but
there was no connection there.
And I already had this, like, very intense connection with Sam.
Yeah.
And so I made the decision in May.
Like, I wasn't going to see people on my own.
Yeah.
Sam had a couple, like, he has a couple that he's a third for that he still sees.
He recently went on a trip, and he has a friend from college or his 20s or something,
and they banged while he was gone.
And he lets me know ahead of time and, you know, faith, use condoms, all that.
And I'm fine with it.
Like, I am very able to see the difference between a physical situation and the deep connection that we have.
And I'm fine with it.
And, like, just because I don't choose to go out on my own, he's fine if I wanted to.
It's just I don't have the desire to.
So we've had together, we've had, like, these couples experiences.
We've had a few, three thumbs with guys, one with another girl.
And we just kind of, I dated a woman actually.
pretty early on and I really really liked her a lot but she wanted more than I could give and she was
you know I was open with her about Sam everybody knew of each other but I just didn't have the
time resources the emotional physical resources to really give her what she deserved and so I ended
that so yeah I mean we're open we're not looking for like emotional connections with any
else, but we're fine with physical hookups here and there.
Right, but it's not like you, he's into you going out with other guys and then coming
home and telling him what happens.
I mean, typically when you're playing with others, you're together?
Yeah.
Typically, we're together.
I mean, we have some fantasies.
Like, we really, one of our main fantasies is the way that my apartment is, you can see
the bed from the closet, like through the bathroom.
And so one of our fantasies is for me to like pick up a guy and break him home and have Sam be in the closet watching.
Right.
Uh-huh.
Things like that.
And we've definitely done stuff where like the guy will fuck me and Sam just watches.
Sometimes he participates.
So that's kind of hot lifey, but it's not at all like there's no cuckolding or humiliation or anything like that.
Right.
Like he thinks I'm a fucking porn star.
So sometimes he's like, I like to just sit back.
and like watch you suck cock or get fucked because it's hotter than anything else.
And then afterwards, the sex that we have is so fucking hot.
And like, I'll be, I'll be sucking a guy and a guy will be fucking me like from behind
and I'll just look up to him and be like, I love you so much, baby.
Like, thank you, Daddy for giving me this extra cock, things like that.
Oh, my God.
So, yeah, it's very connected even when we're with other people.
Right. And now if, you know, do your girlfriends that are not in the lifestyle know about all the stuff that you're doing is as a total secret part of your life that nobody knows except you and Sam and the people you hook up with?
So I have one friend who's been like my best friend for over 20 years. She knows. Yeah. Just because I tell, like we tell each other everything. And she's like personally it's not for her. She's only ever been with her husband.
But she definitely appreciates the stories that I tell her.
Uh-huh.
She says it gets added to her spank bank.
Oh, that's hilarious.
So, yeah, I can tell her.
But for otherwise, no, no one knows.
Right, it's just your guys' private thing.
It's all very private.
Yep, very private.
And I think it's great.
I mean, did you know before you started doing all this stuff with Sam that you wanted
to focus on being a sex therapist as opposed to just a regular therapist or did it change?
No.
It totally changed me.
I would say my connection with him has completely changed my life.
Like it has changed the way I connect with my children.
I just try to be very like intentional and deliberate with my children the way that I am with
my partner and also just see them.
I mean, I know this is a sex show, but you know, just.
see them each as individuals, like how do they best receive love?
And it's just transformed my whole life, honestly.
And it's been hard becoming a single mom and just huge life changes.
But I wouldn't change it for the world because I am who I am supposed to be.
Yeah.
He doesn't make me happy.
I feel happiest when I miss him.
I feel my most whole when I am with him.
Right.
And he feels the same way about me.
Well, listen, I think that there's nothing.
I think the top of the mountain for anybody would be being able to be fully exactly who you are.
And have somebody love you for that, right?
Because what is the opposite of that?
Like, that's everyone's fear.
That's the reason why people are repressed and don't show people who they are.
Because their biggest fear is that you would do that.
and somebody would be like, oh, no thanks, or they'd never call you again, or they'd be like,
oh, you're gross or you're weird, right?
I mean, isn't that why most people are hiding who they are?
Because it's that big massive fear of rejection.
And it's rejection of who you are.
We all know who we are, right?
But we're all so petrified that somebody else won't accept it.
So when I think that the people that are really are able to show somebody that and that person
receives them and not only says, okay, that you're not.
good the way you are but like I fucking love you like that's the top of the mountain that's what
it's all about and what I love that you just explained is that that that doesn't only make you
feel like you said it's not just he makes you feel great about yourself I mean you're happier
in yourself and then that transfers to everything your relationship with him right your relationship
with your children I mean it's it's amazing you're lucky yeah I'm I feel extremely grateful
I mean it's been a very hard road but I feel
just immense gratitude that I out of the craziness it happened that I met him.
Right.
And I definitely think the universe was working in our favor.
So many things had it come into play for us to ever meet.
And I'm just so thankful that we did.
Yeah, I love it.
Now, do you have any pictures that I could put on my Patreon, like anonymous picks?
Sure.
I can send you some.
All right, cool.
So you send me those.
Those will be on Patreon.
Yeah, I'll send you a Facebook just so that you can like put a face to the voices.
I'll send you like some um, like, like lingerie.
Yeah, lingerie for sure.
Nothing X-rated.
And poor Sophia.
Sophia and Rod, I mean, she's like my husband.
She sent me a picture for like blowing a guy.
I'm like, I can't use this.
She's like, oh, my fucking husband told me to send you.
I'm like not X-rated, R-rated, like sexy lingerie things.
That's what most girls send in.
And, you know, no faces.
I'll cut the face out, whatever.
So send me that
I'll put those up on my Patreon for people to see
All right thank you so much for calling in
I feel like I could have talked to you for a lot longer
And got more details
I'm sure we'll have you back on
Thank you.
Yeah, have me back
I will I will
I'm doing it something in September
And maybe I'll use you for that
It's called Girl Talk
Where I just talked to a female
Like I done it with a podcast
Or I did it with a person who started a sex texting app
And you know
Where I just talked to a girl
about sex, but not like in the way I'm interviewing, more just about a topic. So maybe I would have you
for that. So I never know. But I'm definitely going to have you back on. Thank you so much. It was great.
And we are just huge fans of your show. Like we, it gets us worked up and like we just love you so much.
So I love that. Super grateful for this. Yeah, that's great. And let me just tell you you're going to get people
worked up, okay? That now you're doing that you're doing it. You're paying it forward. I'm doing it.
Yes, yes. You're going to do it for other people. Thank you so much.
calling in Erica.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
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