Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 532 - Fetish Friday: Cody has a Bra and Panty Fetish

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

Cody loves wearing bras and panties and more and he calls in to talk all about it. When did he first realize he was interested in dressing up? How did he feel about his fetish? And how open has he been about it? Tune in for all the details which include who he stole his feminine clothing from when he was little, how he felt when he was dressed up, how his initial interest in bras and panties led to being interested in all things feminine, how and why he sometimes purges his clothing, how he opened up about his fetish to his wife, how she reacted and how it effected their relationship, his religious upbringing and how that effected him, his negative feelings about his fetish and how he is working through them, his relationship issues with his mom and how that ties into his fetish, his large stash of female clothing and where he hides it, what he loves to wear and a whole lot more. **To see pics of Cody's stash + get a ton of exclusive fetish content + see anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's just to take these confessions. Okay, so you could call it whenever you want. 347, 4203579. Now listen, I first had up on my Fetish Fridays. This is Fetish Fridays today. Okay. I first had up like an episode about abduction. I don't know.

This guy had, to me it was like kind of funny. And because I really talked to him through his whole fetish and I found out where it came from and how he likes to do it. And because it was like a kidnapped thing. It was not hardcore at all. But so many people were like commenting like, this is hardcore. That's kind of like fucked up that I was like started Googling just to see if this was like a bad thing. And it's not.

It's not if you would have listened to him. I mean, Emmett was like a good guy that, like, played, kidnap things with his little cousins when he was little, and then he just liked to do it. But he didn't like to do it, like, all the way through sex. Like, I mean, he just did it in the beginning with it. But when he actually had sex with the girl, he wanted her to be awake and enjoying it and all that stuff,

it wasn't like he was into dead corpses. It wasn't dark or anything. But when I did go Googling because people were responding, I found, like, an article in Rolling Stone magazine. What they were saying kind of is that, not that they were saying kind of that. Like, you know, it is consensual kind of a thing, but sometimes the problem is that, you know, people do it consensually, right? Like, Emma, it's a good guy, normal, he's fine. I talked to him if you heard his episode. He was cool. He's fine. You know,

it was all light, no darkness there. But that kind of information in the wrong person's hand, right? Emma telling his story, somebody that isn't light and is dark, hears that. and maybe takes it in the wrong way. And that is what's wrong with it. And when I read that and thought of that, I was like, you know what, that's probably not cool and I should take it down. I mean, that's when I start to feel not right about something, I just follow my gut instincts. So I took it down and I am replacing that episode with one of my favorite episodes that I already taped had aired it exclusively on my Patreon. I always meant, I told my Patreon members I always meant to air it here because it's fucking great. It's my episode with Cody. Cody has a fetish for bras and panties.

He has, he has like the hugest stash of bra and panties that I've ever seen. Like more bras and panties that I've had in my whole life. This guy has. Okay. And I have pictures of it over on my Patreon if you want to see those. It's Patreon.com slash strictly namus podcast. The links to everything is in my description. But what I loved about this episode, we get all like the back story. right, you're going to find out how he got into bras and panties and how that turned into him like cross-dressing and where he got his stash from and, you know, who he used to steal from when he was little, you know, and who, and what happened when he told his wife and how it affected their relationship. But a lot of what we talked about in this podcast, too, that I thought was really

great was like how he feels about his fetish and the conflict that it brings up, uh, in him. He does, you know, he has issues around his fetish and he doesn't sometimes feel right about it. Sometimes he has a large stash and then he purges and then he gets more. And I mean, he's, he's a little conflicted and we talk about that a lot. And it's just a really great episode that has so many different levels or layers, right? Layers, but it's super interesting and that's why I'm giving it to you guys now. You know, sorry that I took away the other episode. This one's great though. Cody's great. You're going to love this episode. Even if you don't have a bra or panty fetish, you have any fetish. Anybody with any kind of fetish is going to be able to relate to Cody's

story. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Cody. Hi, Cody. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you this morning today? I'm doing good. How are you? Good. So Cody, I've talked to guys before that had a bra and panty fetish, but not for a, for a little. I'm doing a long time. And I haven't talked to you. And what I find, you know, I could talk to 50 guys with the same fetish and everybody has a different story. There's a lot of similarities in a lot of the stories, but everyone is unique. You know, that's why I'm always open to talking to another person, even though I've talked to other panty bra fetish people. But so that you have a bra and panty fetish. Like when did you find, figure this out? Like when was your first memory that you were into

this kind of thing? I'd say my first memory is probably back when I was like I mean I had like one memory back when I was like really young like five but probably like seven or eight you know you'd see like a Victoria's Secret magazine or something and there's like that curiosity or that you know that thing that kind of

sparks in you and I like I just saw like my stepmom when I was really young I just had like found a bra of hers or something and snuck behind this chair and like was feeling it and kind of

like just getting to know it I guess or what have you and just kind of progressed from there and then I like tried it on and you get that feeling of just like adrenaline and just excitement and it kind of just started there. Yeah, now is that confusing to you?

Because, like, you probably can't make sense of it, right? Because, I mean, you probably see a lot of things around your house, and why does that bra stand out to you? Is it, was it the color? Was it the texture? Do you remember? Like, do you know why you were so attracted to it? I suppose it was just the fact that it's kind of,

you know, like this undergarment, And it's, it is so soft and silky and lacy and, you know, it's kind of, I wouldn't necessarily call it forbidden, but it's, you know, it's just something so different than what I was used to. And it was just exciting. And I was so young. Yeah. And I didn't really understand it. And I didn't necessarily, like, understand what I thought about it back then. But it just kind of like, I guess turned in to what it is today, you know what I mean?

Yeah, well, how do that happen? So what happens after that first experience? I assume at some point you realize that you're sexually turned on by it. And at another point, I don't know whether you wear yourself or whether you just like to see them on women. Like, just tell your story. Yeah, no, I definitely, I like to wear them. Browes and panties for sure. And kind of anything feminine, girl clothes, dresses, skirts.

I mean, high heels, whatever. And I, it just kind of like started there and get hooked on that feeling, I suppose. And then it kind of just snowballs. And then, you know, I liked it the first time and then the second time and then the third time. But what was that first time? What was the first time that you saw that bra or that panting and you said, hmm, I'm going to just put this on? that's a really good question it was a long time ago and um i don't remember exactly but it was just kind of like i just kind of remember a few memories of being really young and seeing that and just getting

you know excited or interested in it and then it just no but i mean no but i you just keep saying you're seeing it but when do you actually put it on i know that you're seeing it and you you're feeling it and everything but like when do you decide to take it in your room and try it on and look in the mirror? I was, like I said, I was probably out eight when I discovered them. And then I wanted to put it on and I put it on. I remember the feeling when I did for the first time. It was just so amazing.

You're not even a sexual being, I don't think, at eight. So you don't really connect it that way, but it did feel like nothing else felt on you, I would assume. Yeah, no, definitely. And I was just, I don't know, I just, was really exciting and fun and I guess I didn't I didn't know better but I do have some memories of I had some neighbors they were twins they lived down the road and I remember my sister was in dance class when I was really young and she had like the leotard with a little tutu on it and I remember like trying that on and I don't know why but my

neighbors were there and we were like really young and they thought it was funny and cool and I did it and just the excitement of being you know with them and trying that on and there's all like the sequence and the pink and a tutu and it just like I just grew into something that I really enjoy but why bra and pandi it's interesting to me because I get a lot of I've talked to a lot of crossdresses I still have like 10 cross-dresser episodes in the bag because I can't can't just have a cross-dressing channel, but I do think I'm going to make a separate Patreon tier just for cross-dressers because I have so many emailing me that want to be on this show. And what I do find is that whether I'm talking to a panty-hose guy or look, I'm talking to you,

bra and panties, I'm like, oh, that's great, let me have that on it's a fetish. But it's like all of a sudden, it's like sounds like you also cross-dust a little bit too that a lot of times these other fetishes, you know, a lot of guys that are into panty-hose are also, they do eventually start to cross-judice. sometimes, not always, right? And like here you are bras and panties are your thing, but, you know, it's kind of like everything feminine. It's like, are those fetishes maybe like the gateway drug into, you know, cross-dressing or the start of it, you know, I don't know. I mean, that's a really good question. And I like, I'm definitely not an expert by any means, but I know my experience has definitely kind of just rolled, like I said earlier, snowballed. just kept growing and growing. And as I got older and I did start, you know, becoming sexual.

And I just, I just never lost that. It was always that excitement. I always had that feeling. And, you know, just kept growing. And I just, like, collected more stuff and just experimented more and just had fun with it. And I've, like, I've purged a couple times, like, a long time ago. and then decided at some point that, you know, fuck it, it's me. I'm just going to do what I want to do and just kind of rolled with it, you know.

Well, where were you getting your big stash from it when early on were you, like, stealing it from, like, your mom, your stepmom? Yeah, there was a little bit of stepmom, sister, step-cous, just kind of wherever I could. Right. And bras and pandies, is that your main thing? No, it's kind of just cross-dressing in general, but yeah. So wait a second. So you started stealing that. You've purged sometimes and been like, oh, my God, I just, I don't want to have this fetish.

I mean, is there, do you still have a little confliction with this fetish? Yeah, I definitely do it sometimes. But I've kind of just accepted what I like, who I am. and I suppose you just at some point just admit like that's what I like so I'm not going to I'm not going to like I'm not going to fight it I'm not going to push back I just you know embrace it and try to you know be you and be happy with it yeah and what you resist persist is a very true thing you know so if you have that in you're trying to avoid it it's just going to be worse right 100% yeah absolutely so when you have so let me ask you this because you sound young how old are you now i'm excuse me i'm 31 so you're 31 are you in a relationship have you been in any long-term relationships and if you have and if you are are you open about your fetish to the people you date or marry to or whatever yeah no i i was um i had been in a few relationships in high school

nothing serious. And then I had met my wife. We'd been together for, I don't know, 10 years and then got divorced. But I did kind of, I mean, we were married for, I don't know, two, probably two years, two and a half years before I kind of opened up about stuff, which looking back, I know that was definitely not. the way to do it. Yeah.

No, I should have been more open than honest in the beginning, but I guess those feelings for her had kind of taken over. You didn't want to ruin it. I think it's hard to put that out there in the beginning, though that is in a perfect world that is the best time to do it, then way later, but a lot of people don't. That's a fact. So what made you do it two years in?

Because that's kind of ballsy. I mean, did you feel like you couldn't, hide it anymore. Did she find something and catch you doing something? Let me kind of jump back a little bit. Yeah. My family has always been like very religious and my dad is extremely religious and very judgmental and pretty harsh. So I don't want to say I've necessarily suppress those feelings, but it definitely like I'm a little more reserved when it comes to it and yeah so I don't know like you're with somebody for so long you just get comfortable enough and it kind of finally comes out and she was definitely the kind of girl that didn't enjoy it like she tried yeah you know she was open-minded but I think ultimately she didn't like it she didn't like it she wanted she wanted she didn't like it she wanted she wanted she wanted she wanted she didn't like it she wanted and the man's man and you know you kind of let that cat out of the bag then sometimes

it bites you and I think it did in my relationship and it wasn't just that there was some other things that led to a divorce but I think that was part of it that she I don't think she'd ever admit it but it was definitely you know I'm sure had something to do with it right and listen if it didn't work for her it's not going to work for you because as much as she can't accept it for herself. Why would you want to be with someone that you can't be totally yourself with either? So it's, you know,

it's better for both of you to find other people. Well, and that's like the, like, that's where I'm conflicted because, you know, I, like,

how do you define normal? But at the same time, like, do you, like, like, I'm a, I'm a really hard,

like, I'm a really hard of myself. Like, I'm really hard of myself. I question myself all the time. I try to be the best person I can. So then I have this thing that I definitely at this point, especially listening to your show,

I wouldn't consider not normal, but it's definitely not the normal, but it's not like some crazy thing. And I'm sure there's like so many men out there that are into it and they enjoy it, but they're not coming out every day and talking about it, right? Yeah.

That's why I added a fetish Fridays on because I like talking about these things. I think it's important to get it out there, you know, not just for the people who call it, because they always find it very cathartic to talk about their stuff, but also for people that are Googling and looking to see, you know, I get hundreds of emails a week, if not more, telling me from listeners, you know, saying, like, thank you so much for putting out that episode. Like, I could really relate to that person, you know, so it's important because, yeah, it's not the norm, but it exists. And it's happening, okay?

And it could be the person sitting next to you. It could be your partner. It could be your father. It could be your neighbor. You know, these are real people, you know, this is what's going, fucking down. Yeah. And like, I'm, you know, I think there's people in my life that would literally have no idea. Of course.

That's the whole point. I mean, that's, right? That's what I, a lot of times I ask, like, the guy that's like, you know, having a secret bisexual life. would anybody in your life, like how would they react if they found out it? And so he's like, a lot of times it's like they would be totally shocked because it's like the construction worker that's like really beefy manly, manly man guy. You know, we all have ideas in our mind of who these people are that are doing these things.

And like I said, that's what my show is all about. It's kind of like, this is who they are. They're regular people. They're not like this, there's not this like island where these, quote unquote perverts or weirdos, whatever you want to fucking call people that do something that maybe you don't want to talk about. You know, they're just walking around like everybody else and they're regular people and it's not all of who they are. You know, they have regular jobs. They have kids. They have marriages. And they also have a, you know, a sexual life where they sometimes

do crazy things, not so crazy things, whatever. But it's not a lot of times, like I said, I think it's never who you think it is or people are always surprised because I think people live in a box when it comes to that. They think the guy that's like sucking dick behind his wife's back is very effeminate, you know,

or the guy that's wearing women's clothes is very effeminate. So if you're like a masculine guy but you like to be feminine, you know, once a week and it turns you on, no one would ever know that. No, I completely agree.

And I think, you know, America, it's really easy to like put people in a bob. and say, oh, well, you know, you've got a manly job and you're, you know, got a manly build. And like, it's really easy to be like, oh, no, like, it's not acceptable for you to act this way or be this way. But then that person who judges me is going to go home and do some freaky, like, anal shit. You know what I mean? And it's like, everybody's got their thing. It's just like, like, if somebody can learn to just deal with it, like, accept.

that they are who they are. Like, you're allowed to be what you want to be. You can share it with who you want to share it with. But at the end of the day, like, it doesn't fucking matter because everybody's weird. Everybody's got their thing. Yeah, and it's not, I think what happens is people think like, oh, he does that. So that's like all of him. Like, you know, everyone is made up of many different things.

We're like a concoction, you know? It's like a, it's just a piece of the pie, you know? And it's a small piece. Now, listen, I get it. intimacy and sex and a relationship, especially a long term, is very important. So if there is a major disconnect, like some guy wants to pee all over his girl all the time and that's the only way he can get off and she doesn't want to. That's not going to work, you know.

But maybe sometimes it's like everything else is there and all the other pieces of the pie are there and it all works. And there's a small thing where you like to wear, you know, your guy or your girl likes to do something that maybe you're not into, why not throw them a bone? If you can, I mean, like I said, sometimes that's not the case. Not like as much as we have to say, you know, people should accept what you do. They could also not accept it. And that's cool too. Everyone has their own choice, right? But I think it's really good. And that's why it's good to put it out there in the beginning, because you kind of weed out those people that just couldn't get past it, you know? I think the world

is changing. You're lucky you're 31 and not 51 because you'd be, oh, you know, you'd be talking. to me and you'd still be married to that girl and she still wouldn't know and you know this is it would be a lot worse for you you know here you are divorced you're still super young you know you could meet are you dating someone now no I'm not I just like I had a relationship a couple like back in October and it just didn't really work out and it wasn't for that reason yeah because like I said I'm I don't think I'm at that point where I want to open up first thing but it's kind of like I'm more like people out.

Yeah, you don't need to open up first thing. I don't think that that's something that you just totally put on the table on the second or third date. No way, you know? And I've heard shows of years in the past where they're like, oh, first date. Like, I'm hammering down. Like, this is what I like. And I like respect those guys so much because that takes a fucking set. But, you know, I'd like to think that I get to that point.

And I'm kind of like I'm conflicted because I really do enjoy it. And it's not like I necessarily totally fully understand, like why, but I know that I like it. And like you said, if you check all those boxes and you meet the perfect girl, but this is the one thing that you don't, you know, agree on, is it something that you give up? Or is it something like, you know, choose your battles? Is that the hill you're going to die on? or are you just kind of like, okay. I personally haven't met that girl yet.

And I think that that will be a, that's a, that's going to be a mutual thing, you know. First of all, I don't think you'll be able, like you have said, you've tried yourself to, you know, deny your urges and this fetish and you can't. So that's not an option. So, you know, what's, so then what happens next? It's like a matter of whether that right girl that checks all the other boxes, how she feels about it. Does she say, you know what?

I'm not into this, but you know what? You're great and everything's really, everything else is really great. So do that shit on your own or like, you know, when I go away or when I'm out with the girls. You know, there's a lot of time, you know, it would be a compromise. There's always, there's a lot of things in between someone totally not being into it and someone totally being fucking down with it, you know? And, you know, each relationship you have will, you're just going to have to see where it goes or how it goes.

but I definitely believe that how you feel about your fetish a lot of times, you know, will determine kind of what shows up in your life. I had a great episode. Only 15 minutes of it was aired on my Patreon page, but it was a, because it was a pantyhose guy. The rest of it was on my Patreon, but it was about a guy. And we talked a lot about his first experience of losing a girl because of his Fannieho's fetish because he copped to it and he was very open about it. And to this day, so many years later, he's way older. He still always attracts women that plays that story out. And I had a whole

conversation with him because I felt like it was more his relationship to it and his shame that he felt. So he just kept meeting people that would just mirror back where he was at in his life, you know, and I think a lot of time. So I do think it's important for you because you're still super young to while you're out there looking for a girl and doing all that things, like really try to get as clear as you can and as accepting as you can of that part of yourself. And then you will most likely be more aligned to meet and that person or that person's going to show up that's going to feel the same way.

And like I said, maybe they won't want to do it with you. that's okay, you know, because you could jerk off and do it. I mean, there's like a lot of things you could compromise with, but I definitely think you, while you're waiting, the best thing you could always do is get really clear on who you are, what you're about, and if there's any shame or any kind of negative feelings about your fetish, try to work through that as much as possible. I totally understand that.

And like, it's like, it's hard. because, you know, like, I'm a pretty laid-back guy, but I do have, you know, certain tastes, I guess. So, like, to find the perfect person for me that does like that, and they're fine with it, and I'm attracted to them, and we have good chemistry, it's kind of like a unicorn, like you, they just don't pop up every day. No, right. So it's not like it's not totally fun to be completely alone the rest of your life with like this secret that you feel like you can't share. And it's just, you know, it's definitely an interesting thing in life. And you just learn, you have to learn how to navigate it. Like you said, like figure out and, you know, be honest.

And you hope that person comes along. But there's like no guarantee. No, but I think that. you know, if you look at it like there's no other option and you really believe that it can happen for you, it will. You know, listen, if you listen to my show, there's many people and guys with worst fetishes that they've put on the table that their girl knows about and they're, and they're okay with it and they're fine, you know? So it exists, you know? For sure. No, totally. And I know there's like, like I said earlier, there's definitely people that, you know, everybody's got their thing.

Yeah. And like everybody's, you know, everybody's kind of got that freaky side of them. And I guess there's some people that don't, but there's a lot of people that do and they're just not willing to admit it. Like something like me where I just, I'm not super open about it. But there's totally a lot of people out there. I'm not the only one. But, you know, just kind of, if the stars align and you, you feel, find that person, then that's like, you know, the dream come true.

Like, that's how you be happy in life. Yeah. You just got to figure out how to find that. And it's not super easy to just, you know, stumble upon it or, you know, how do you meet somebody out at like a bar or, you know, through friends or this or that? And you just kind of casually bring it up and they're like, oh, I'm totally into that. What's your age, rage? Like, I really feel like these young people nowadays.

I mean, do you date 23-year-olds? because you should because these younger girls are so fucking open and down. I mean, you have like all celebrities in your age, you know, that are social influencers that are men wearing skirts and nail polish. So I do feel like the younger generation is more open to things that, you know, make sure to date younger, not older. I don't know if, you know, because they're just, I feel like it's, like I said, you're lucky at your age, you know, because you're dealing with, you know, because you're dealing with, the different society and people are, you know, definitely affected by what they see in social media and out there and stuff. And I just think it's people are more open. So you got that

going for you. You know, and I, and I totally agree. And I'd say probably my age range is 25 to 35 because like 20 to 25, like most people don't really know who they are. Yeah, there are Meebas, I always say, yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm kind of the point where I do want to find somebody that I can be happy with and something more serious. And I'm, I don't necessarily think 25 is the right age, but there's an exception for every rule. And I think that, you know, you might find somebody at 25 and you might find somebody at 35. But like, you know, like you said, and I've heard you say it in podcast before, but like, you know, you go much older. You're right. And like I said, there is an exception for every rule. Yeah. I think as a general rule of them,

you find some of these older, they're kind of a little more close-minded because the world has changed a lot and the way their parents raised them. And I feel like my dad's kind of old school too, so I was kind of raised in that. But, you know, I think there is those influences and, you know, you're not so much influence. Yeah, we're not so much influence. Like, we're influenced by your parents with certain things, but I feel like all that other stuff is very influenced by what's going on in magazines and TV and now it's social media. You know, you don't realize how much all of that stuff is really penetrating your subconscious and creating who you are and what you like and what you accept and what you don't, you know. So you have that going for you. That right girl's out there

for you. Like I said, the best thing you could do while you're waiting for that is just, you know, get very comfortable with your fetish. Now let me ask you this, because we got a little bit off track of like your story. Now is it something where do you wear it underneath your clothes when you go to work or is it just something that you use when you're like at home and want to have fun? I mean, how far, how hardcore are you with that bra and panty fetish? Yeah, definitely both. I like it's kind of turned in something that, you know, one's sexual and it can be a lot.

But sometimes I just want to, you know, throw on a, you know, a pair of panties and throw on a pair of basketball shorts and just lounge around, you know, like they're just really comfortable. But it's also has to deal with a lot of like just that fascination and the fact that I like them. And, you know, I think that plays a lot into it if that makes sense. It's not just, you know, that I like to wear them. It's kind of, you know, full circle. You just, you join them all around. Right. So it is not just sexual either.

I mean, do you like it for the comfort? Is that what you're saying? I don't, I just want to be clear. Yeah, no, I do like it for the comfort. They are really comfy. Yeah. And, you know, I would, like, full disclosure, I'm super jealous of women.

They've got really comfy clothes. And you guys have, like, all these panties and different colors and styles and this and that. Yeah. You know, dresses. And, like, patterns and what have you. And the men are kind of just putting this box of like, yeah,

you got jeans, shoes, but it's t-shirts and boxers. Like, that's what you get. Yeah. So fucking deal with it. Yeah, well, you know, I'm a mom to a son. It's like less fun to go shopping for his clothes. You know, I always see all the little girl

clothes that I'm jealous. I'm like, oh my God, I would love to buy this and that and it's so blingy looking like little girl stuff, you know, but I don't get to shop like that. So I totally understand what you mean. You're like, you're seeing things that way too. Like, it's kind of like boring. You're, you're visually attracted as well to that,

to the look of girl stuff and all that, the variety. Absolutely. And like, I totally going to go on a limb here. But my mom hasn't been around in my life really a lot. Mm-hmm. And, like, I don't know if, like, kind of subconsciously or what have you in the back of my brain. Like I'm,

I'm attracted to kind of more feminine stuff because I'm trying to like replace something in my life that hasn't been around. Oh, yeah. I love like going to places like that. I think that that's super interesting. So yeah, you mentioned that you had a stepmom. Now, is your mom alive?

And she just wasn't like, okay. And does she not live close by or did you not like, I mean, when did she leave your life? Um, she's, you know, been in my life, like, like, she's been around. We live in the same town. She lives probably a solid 30 minutes away from me. She works probably 10 minutes away from me. But she's just, I don't know. She's just never really had an interest. Wow. I don't know why, but she doesn't communicate. Like, she just doesn't really want to, like, if people want to be in your life, will be in your life. If they don't, it's pretty obvious. So at some point, you just need to cut ties and move the fuck on. But, like, I think I, and I've thought about my whole, like, finish and everything. And maybe that's a hole that I'm trying to fill with something that's feminine because she's just been so absent.

Yeah. I do have a stepmom. But, like, at the end of the day, a stepmom's never going to replace your mom. Like, there's just always that, you know, that piece. it's missing. No, that's major stuff. That's major stuff. Let me ask you this.

When did your parents get divorced? How old were you? I think I was like two. I don't remember it. It's all I've ever known. Okay. So like, yeah. Go ahead.

Like I was, you know, like I talked to my mom, you know, two or three times a year. And I do love her and, you know, I want to be a part of my life. But she's not. And at some point, you just got to be like, all right. I'm going to quit reaching out because you don't want to reach out. Like, you don't put any effort in. And, like, you got to remember, like, you can check on people all you want, but you got to remember at the end of the day, if they cared, they'd reach out to.

Right. And what comes after that, right, you could, at that point, you could logically say all that, but what does that tell you? That tells you, like, oh, you know, that tells you a lot of bad things, like, oh, to your subconscious. You know what I mean? Like, that I'm not good enough that I don't deserve this. you know, all that stuff could be, you know, playing around.

Like, let me ask you this. When you were younger, so your parents get divorced when you're two, did you live with your father or did you grow up with your mom? I, it was like week on week off for like a while. But like my mom, she likes to drink. So my dad definitely, you know, pushed for full custody. I have, you know, a couple siblings and she just was just not there. And she didn't, you know, she's got a problem, I guess. And you just got to like learn how to deal

with that. But my dad, like, pushed for full custody. And then we eventually ended up with him full time. And I'm sure there's like something in her life where she like resents him and she's embarrassed, kind of bitter so it's not like I can totally blame her for all her problems but at the same time she's not around so you just can't get it

when did he get full custody how old were you do you remember I was probably like 10 or 12 terrible at 10 lines but no it's hard to remember back when you're really little yeah you were still really young I was just seeing if whether there was a time

into, you know, that time of your life when you started to put those clothes on and feel nice. I mean, I really loved, I had a guy on who talked about a diaper fetish, Dylan, you know, and I think some people don't tune in because of like diaper fetish. I don't want to fucking hear that. But it was such a great episode because he talked about how he knew exactly why he liked those diapers because his parents got divorced around when he was like three years old. and it was like right around the time. And he was always in diapers through his whole,

like he was wearing diapers when his parents were married and he took them off and they got divorced. So he just, the only time he ever felt, and it really rocked his world that divorce, you know, even at that young age. He lost all his sense of security. So when he put diapers back on one day at by accident, he felt this sense of security that he had

in those beginning years when his parents were still married. and it was so interesting because of course that's going to be the case, right? He could absolutely tie it back to that time and it was just fascinating. And stuff like that happens. You know, when you're really young and these things are going on, they really affect you. And sometimes you're not even consciously aware. I mean, he could really put it together, you know, but sometimes it's subconscious, you know. so for you

you have a mother that just has her own issues that she can't it's her own problem of why she can't connect with you nothing to do with you but that's going to affect relationships with women

more than your fetish okay that you know and like yeah I totally agree with that and like I said like I'm not like I'm not a professional like I don't know if Meaning how it feels correct.

Like maybe that's it. Maybe it's not. Maybe I just really like, you know, panties and bras and, you know, women's clothing and like to collect it. I don't know. But it could be. I think it definitely could be. I think it's really interesting. Do you see, do you have a therapist in your life at all?

No, I don't. I, you know. I guess it was raised in that household where you just, you know, I don't know, you necessarily just don't talk about that stuff or. Yeah, but you know, what kind of that's, but that exact kind of household is the one that needs it the most. Okay. Like let's, I was raised by the same kind of parents like throw it under the, in my generation like all our parents did was just like, everything goes under the, what is that saying? You know, put, brush it underneath the rug, you know. Everything is just like denial. That whole my parents generation, all they did was like live in denial, you know, so no one really wanted to face anything. And a therapy was like, oh my God. But I got into therapy when I was younger and I loved it. And I think it's really great. People are more open-minded now, but the stuff that you've been through, and like I said, I'm not even just your fattish, but that just, you know, is on top of everything else, you should be talking to somebody. It can't hurt. It will only help. You really need it. You don't want to, what happens is we are told stories when we are very young and we, and then we continue to

tell those stories, you know, and a lot of times those are stories that are put on you, you know. your mother told you a story, not because of who you are, but because of who she is, but you took that story in in a very different way. We do that as children. We can't help it, you know. So you probably have a very negative, not self-serving story subconsciously going on in your life that is going to, you know, maybe make it difficult for you to believe that there's any woman out there that will accept you because of what happened with your mom. And, you know, once you start talking about those things in therapy, maybe you will be able to connect your bra and panty fetish with the stuff that happened with your mother.

But will it ever go away? Probably not. Is that the reason, you know, finding it out? No. I mean, what you then have to do is just maybe it will help if you could make those connections you accept it more. I don't know. but I do think if you dealt with the mom things and then talked about your fetish, you could

get a little bit clearer, like I said, on how you feel about your fetish and your relationship to it as well as how you feel about yourself. No, and I totally hear that. And, you know, I guess I'd like just to add, like, I've enjoyed listening to your episodes and it's something that I wanted to do. And it's not something that I'm necessarily very open about. But, you know, I'm not super comfortable, like, sitting down one-on-one face-to-face with somebody and having this conversation.

Yeah. But maybe, like, that phone conversation. Yeah. And being able to kind of open up, maybe that's a good jumping off point. But I really do appreciate your podcast and, you know, letting people open up and letting people have conversations about it because I think it's healthy. And maybe it's a good jumping off point. And maybe people can kind of open up and go, okay, you know, it's not that bad. Yeah.

Like, I was nervous getting on the phone call. Like, I know a lot of people are nervous getting on a phone call. Yeah, wait until you hear this episode in the beginning, you're going to notice a change in how you're talking to. And I notice this all the time with people because I talk to like 500 people at this point, if not more, you know, because I've been doing my show for so long. But in the beginning, you started off. There was a lot of some pauses in between, you know, you were talking slower.

You were saying, um, in between a lot. You know, it always starts off like that with people because they're nervous, you know, and it always, and then you get so involved in the conversation, you forget about your nerves and you're comfortable and you're like a totally different person talking at the end of it, you know, and but that will happen with a therapist too. And nowadays, like with better help, I don't know if you could still use my code, but everyone has a code for better help. Like better help and there's a lot of therapists out there now that do even phone calls. Like with better help, you could even do it kind of anonymously in that. You don't have to be

looking at the person you could just talk, you know. Um, but I think, think that I know that when I used to go to therapy, I loved going to see my therapist and actually talk to her, that when we would have like a phone session here and there because she wasn't available, this was before COVID. I didn't feel like I got as much out of it. But if you do feel more comfortable doing that, nowadays you could do therapy as anonymous as you're doing this, you know, they're going to need your name and your credit card and all that shit. But, you know, you don't have to be looking at them talking about that stuff. So if that's like your beef with that, I think everybody could use a therapist. I love this episode for my Fetish Friday's episode because I think so many

people with a fetish have issues like this, you know, and find my show because of this. I mean, you're not, it's not uncommon. I think you're dealing with two things because I think you have that mom thing going on, but it also affects your fetish, you know. But I think it's, it's either way, if you don't feel right about some part of yourself, whatever that is, or fully. okay with it or there is confliction. You know, it's always good to maybe find someone to talk to about it so that you could get clearer because I do believe whatever you put out comes back, you know, however you feel about yourself is what you attract. We could smell people from a mile away, okay? Like attracts like, it's 100% the way it goes. I had a thing for narcissist. I don't care

where I was no matter what I'm doing. I will always have a fucking narcissist, asshole douchebag that doesn't think that anything that comes out of my mouth is valid because that's how I was raised. I could smell like they're always just coming into my life. Like is that a coincidence? No. It's what I'm attracting because of like my own shit. You know, we all have that stuff regardless. You know, we're all human beings. We were all, we all had, you know, human being parents that were flawed. Your mother's flawed in her own life, maybe more so than somebody else's. She has her own own stuff to deal with. You seem like you're clear on that.

You know, when you're at least understand, you know, like, I have to like let go of that. But I think that sometimes those things do affect you even more than you could understand. And it's always good to get talking to somebody because you can retrain yourself. And you can get and it will help to see if maybe there is a connection and you could get clearer on your bra and panty finish. And then because like, listen, you're dating a girl and you tell her like I have this and and you you you understand it more yourself. I feel like it'll be easier for you to explain it to somebody else too, you know, right?

Absolutely. Yeah, no. And I could, you know, like to circle back, like, I don't think necessarily that, like, I have, like, I try to do a lot of self-reflection. Yeah. And I was going to say earlier, like, you said, like, wait until you listen to the podcast. And, like, I don't necessarily think that I have, like, the best self-confidence. I don't know if that has to deal with the fetish

and just kind of knowing that not necessarily that I'm different, but I have my thing and it's probably not quite, or it's probably a little more extreme than other people's thing. So it definitely kind of affects the self-confidence there. But at the same time, I have, you know,

like to think that I figured out who I am and what I like. Yeah. And, you know, I don't think it's necessarily affecting my life in a negative way. Sometimes I'm like, oh, geez, like, you know, if somebody like knew in my life, they probably have a different, you know, thought on it than I do. But, you know, like, I think I've come to terms with what I like and what I do.

That's great. You know, it really only affects the relationship side of thing. And that's because, you know, it's more. finding somebody who's open to it. It's not necessarily that I haven't, you know, come to terms with who I am and what I like, but, you know, you got to find somebody who's like, oh, yeah, fuck it, let's roll with it. Yeah.

You know, and I know, like, my ex tried, but that was kind of to no avail, like, it just didn't really work out, and it didn't click. And, like, I said, it wasn't necessarily because, like, it wasn't specifically that reason. There was other reasons, but that definitely, In my opinion, had a part to play in it. Of course. Yeah.

Yeah, listen, I think that you're at that place where you're ready for a relationship, it sounds like. So it's just a matter of waiting for that right person to come along. Like you said, it's like the unicorn. I mean, if it was so easy to find someone where all the stars aligned, we would never hang our hat with anybody. You know, the reason why we do hang her hat with that one person is because it's rare, you know, that feeling you get when you meet that right person.

And because it doesn't happen that much, when it does, you're like, oh, I got a latch. I want to be with this person. And I do believe that women are like you in that, at least as a woman, I feel like, you know, if you find a guy, you know, here you are a 31 year old guy that's like looking for a relationship, wants to settle down. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. And be like, you know, a girl would be lucky to find that. A lot of guys at your age don't want a fucking real relationship.

They want to be out there having fun. They're not looking to have kids or get made. married at, you know, so I feel like for the right girl, you're like a really good catch. And if all those other things are great about you, a lot of girls would say, okay, I'll take this because every, I got everything else. And he does make me feel like all, you know, good inside, you know, and it's the same thing for the girl. Like, it's hard to find that right person. You're going to be somebody's unicorn, you know? And, and yeah. No, I was going to say like, and maybe, you know, like, you know, when life gives you lemon, like lemons turn in a lemonade,

maybe I'm lucky because I do have this thing that is not, you know, necessarily normal. Yeah. But, you know, like, I feel like when you're young, try to, like, get into a relationship. And I was young when I got married. Yeah. But like, you're trying to find that right person. And it's really hard to find the person that you're meant to be with. Yeah.

But maybe if you have something that's kind of like really specific that I have and they can look past it and they know, like, like, hey, I love this person for who they are. Like, I really, truly do. I can look past this. Maybe I can find that person that I'm really meant to be with instead of, you know, trying to, like, you know, pretend or put on this show or what have you. So maybe, you know, I can find my person just based on,

like maybe internally I'll know that this is the right person because it won't accept me for who I am. Yeah, for sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That makes sense. And I believe that the part of you that is, you know, looking, it'll be very healing for you as well for what happened to when you were younger,

you know, because you didn't feel like you got that from your mother, you know, in a way for a woman. Because I do believe that in relationships, we do mend the issues that we had with our parents, we can't go back and do it with them, but what we do is we do it with people moving forward. And the best thing that people do for us when they come into our life is they heal us. The right relationship can be very healing for you. So when you do meet that right person and she does accept you for exactly who you are, just like you said, that will be really healing for you even more than just for your fetish, but also because of what you went through. And that's probably

why you're so young but still, but have that desire at a young age, you know, because, Because of that. You know, you want that family. You want that girl in your life because you didn't have that security when you're younger. So that makes, that's like even though it's bad, like you say, it's like a good thing about you. And it makes you a good catch for a girl that comes into your life. You know, my son is like, I'm a single mom. My son doesn't have a dad. And I feel like he always talks about having babies and kids of his own and being a dad. And I do believe, yeah, that's a bad. Like some people will be like, oh, poor kid who doesn't have a dad. But the way I look at it because I like to look at cup half fall is like I think he's to be a better dad. He's probably going to want to have kids younger because he didn't have that in his life. So that will be a positive thing. You know what I mean? Like as far as what kind of dad he will be? So a lot of times the flip side of something can be positive. And it's good that you look at it that way. That you know, when you really put it out there and someone really accepts you, it's a way of weeding out that person that's not going to really love you for who you are. that's you know kind of maybe that's my blessing in disguise like that I can have a different

perspective yeah I love that that's a great way to frame it absolutely and I don't know if you'd like to transition but we could tell you guys we have 10 minutes let's talk I feel bad but I do believe that this is a great all of this stuff is great for fetish people to hear don't you feel that way like if you're like because you've listened to my podcast episodes right oh yeah a bunch of them. Yeah, and I'm kind of pixie-chusie because, you know, I do like things I like. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you know, this one looks really interesting. Yeah, of course. But I feel like a lot of people that listen to this will hear this. It's helpful because I do think more people with this kind of fetish than not do have like insecurities about it. So it's good that we went off the tangent and

had like a therapy session. But anyway, let's get back to your fetish. Yes. So like, obviously it's brown panty finished and i like you know women's clothing and you know kind of everything that has to deal with that but yeah i do and i don't you know i feel like and i've never heard something on your podcast that you know pertain to this but i have like over 260 pairs of panties and like probably 30 pros i know there's like probably 25 you know wire bras and then like i got some brawlets and some sports bras and this and that, but it's like 30 or probably over 30. Now, do you live alone? Yeah, currently I do.

All right, so you just have those, like, I mean, do you have them hidden? Like, I always like to know where people hide their stash of stuff like this. Oh, hell yeah, I do. Like, I just haven't said, yeah. Where is it? Where's that huge collection? I have a storage in it and I have a box that. Wow.

can lock away and, you know, hide it. You know, like, it kind of, it definitely, like, I go through periods in my life where I want to bring them out more versus not. You know, sometimes I'm perfectly fine with not, you know, having them and wearing them and being around them versus, like, sometimes I just not necessarily, it's not that I don't like it, but it's just like I don't need it. that point in time, you know what I mean?

Yeah. But I definitely have like a pretty, what I would assume is a pretty solid collection. Yes. But is there anything that you prefer in that collection, like your favorite color, your favorite style? Do you wear like G-strings or do you like panties more so? Oh, thongs 100%. Thongs, for sure. But I do wear them too and they're really comfy.

songs, like, in my opinion, are more comfortable than kind of anything else. But, you know, that's just kind of my... And I tend, obviously, you like something as feminine as women's underwear. Like, I personally, like, lacy, pink, you know, like, black's never bad. But, like, some, like, gray-ass pair of panties is not as fun as something that's, like, super pink and has a bunch of fun prints on it, you know what I mean? Yeah, uh-huh. And where have you bought all this stuff?

Do you, like, have the balls to go into stores and buy it, or do you buy it on Amazon, like, or online? I've bought in some, like, I've bought in certain things in person, not necessarily ever panties. I definitely have bought some on Amazon. I've gotten some from family members, like a step-cous of mine. but like I know you've had episodes in the past where like people like to spy on people and kind of invade their privacy and this and that but that's never really been my style. Uh-huh.

I like I can appreciate that. I like the idea of it more than I like the actual act of it. Right. I personally would never like raid through somebody is like, okay. Well, it's like I've taken sisters, panties and like some family members. But like, I've never been to the guy to go to like an apartment complex when I live in an apartment and like see a dryer that's running and open it up and start like raiding panties. Yeah, I don't agree with that. I mean, I think that that's good that you don't.

Yeah, yeah. No, but I think that that's like a boundary issue problem. You know, a lot of times when people tell me they did stuff like that when they're very young, you know, But when you're older and you're doing stuff like that, you know, that's a problem, I think. So you don't steal like that way. Yeah, no. And like I agree. It is like a boundary issue.

Yeah. I've just never personally been comfortable with it. Like I said, I respect the idea of it in general. Like, I'm not condoning it. I get why people do it. But like personally, I can never bring myself to do it because there's, I do set those boundaries. and I do like I'm just not comfortable with that kind of stuff. Yeah, I respect that.

Like the caveat to that is that I was living in an apartment and I did go down to the community, you know, laundry center. And my, I suppose you can call it a loophole is that there's a lost and found box and that there's a lot of panace to be had in there. Like they get, you know, stuck in the dryer or forgot or stuck in the washer. And they end up in that box. And it's not like I seek, like, I didn't necessarily seek those out. And I wasn't like stealing from somebody. But I don't know if that makes it any better. But that was kind of like, hey, just checking lost and found.

There happens to be a pair in there. I might grab those. You know what I mean? And, you know, I'd like to get your opinion. But maybe that's. I don't know if that's necessarily better, but... I see the difference. I see a very big difference.

And my morals and values are a lot more aligned with you. And I understand that. Like, I could see why you create that loophole. You know, you see it there. It doesn't really belong to somebody, you know. It's not like you're intentionally seeking it out. Yeah. It's kind of like, oh, they're here.

Maybe they get picked up. Maybe they don't. Uh-huh. But like to go and invade somebody's like laundry and root through it. And like I said, like I've done it with, you know, sister and I've done it with family members, which, you know, I have my own things to deal with with that. But, you know, I'm not justifying that behavior by any means. Yeah. But I guess maybe where I try to make up for it is the fact that I, you know, I'm not really willing to go do that with a stranger or.

like I just think there's a lot of trouble that comes with trying to do that kind of stuff and that's not something that I'm comfortable with or willing to take the risk for. No, and nor should you because you'll probably get caught. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and like people do. And that's part of it. And part of it is not willing, you know, to like be that kind of person where I do, you know, totally invade somebody's privacy because like,

my thing is my thing. It should be my thing, my thing alone, and I don't think somebody else should be subjected to it. Like, what happens behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors. Totally. And, like, if you get in a relationship that's different, like, you could open up and things like that, but I don't feel like trying to affect somebody else

or cause harm on somebody else. Like, because I would imagine I'm not a woman. I'm, you know, like, I don't have a woman's person. perspective, but I feel like if you found out that you were taking your stuff at your apartment down to the washroom and that somebody was rooting through your stuff and stealing your underwear, that would be like terrifying. Like I would not want to go back down there, I would imagine. Yeah.

No, that's a totally different thing. And I think, you know, it's important to make that distinction because I think sometimes that's what, you know, talking about the box that people put people in. I think sometimes somebody thinks that, oh, these people that have these fetishes, that's what anyone with that would do. Like they're perverts, you know, they're boundary pushers. They're like, you know, and it's not the case. You know, most people that I talk to don't do that.

They do that like when they're very young, you know. But, you know, just because you have a fattish, it doesn't mean that you don't have proper boundaries, that you don't have your morals intact and in place in the right way. And, you know, and I think that that's important to, like I said, bring up because I would say probably the majority of people are like you. But yet people would probably think, oh, that's, you know, that's not the case. No, and I'd like to think that the majority, I mean, I'm not like an exemplar by any means. Like, I don't hold myself on a pedestal, like I'm some sort of, you know, moral high ground.

But I would like to think that people are more, you know, just respectful of other people's privacy because I like my privacy. Obviously, I got some skeletons in the closet, but I like. the fact, you know, or I appreciate the fact about myself that I'm willing to have that self-control and I can, you know, not let it get, you know, carried away. But like when I do see a pair of panties or like, you know, I walk through the, you know, the store and you see that whole women's section, there's definitely a part of me that kind of, you know, sparks. You get those, you know, fires up and you're like, oh, man, like, you're thinking about like, ooh, I like that pair,

like this pair, I like that bra, like this bra. You know what I mean? But I do respect those boundaries, and I, you know, I always will because I don't want to, like, I've kind of set that standard for myself. Like, I don't want to hurt anybody else with it. I want it to be my thing. And I just, like, I think it should be my thing and my thing alone. But like I said, you find a relationship, something that works. And she's willing to be open to that.

That becomes your life, something that's yours, and something. somebody that is with you that shows to be with you, that kind of then turns into their thing or not, but is willing to accept it. Yeah. My last quick question to you is, when you're dressed up and wearing your girly stuff, and you're like turned on,

have you ever had any desire when you're in that state to be with a man to make you feel more feminine, or do you have no attraction to a man even at that time? absolutely I do right right okay and so now is that confusing to you

or is like you know like say your girl said oh my god does this mean that you're gay gee are you bisexual are you into guys I mean have you ever fooled around with guys I have yeah and I wouldn't say it's necessarily confusing I may not love the fact that I do it

sometimes I mean you know like when you're super horn you turn on like, like, you know, we have two heads, but only enough blood to work one at a time. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, it's definitely something takes over in you, that animalistic side where, you know, you do just want to get off and there's a certain attraction. But yeah, absolutely, there's been, you know, attraction to males. And it's, I would consider myself by, I mean, I've struggled with that for a long time.

But there's no reason to lie about it, especially something where it is kind of anonymous. And, you know, like, what's the point of just straight up lying about it to yourself? And, you know, like, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you know that about yourself. Yeah, and there's that part of you that, I mean, for somebody, especially man, to slide on like a pair of stockings, a dress, you know, a carder belt, a bra, all met. and a pair of heels and then to be with a guy and you're going to sit there and tell me that you don't feel feminine when you do it, I'm going to call bullshit.

Absolutely. Right. Right. I'm just not going to believe it because, you know, I've been there. Like, I'm, like, I get it. Let me ask you this. Do you feel that you, if you're bisexual and you, do you feel like you could date a guy and be in a relationship with a man?

I mean, I like the idea of it. I just don't know if I have. You know, I don't know if I'm in that Point of my life and the people that are in my life Yeah, like you're a really religious father Just put it out there Yeah, yeah, and it's like, I don't Like, and there's a lot better people than me

Who are willing to just accept who they are And like I have accepted things of my About me and the things that I like To a point but I don't necessarily think I'm ready to like do that and I'm not saying that I couldn't and I like the idea of it and I'm like talking to a guy right now that I'm interested in but like that would affect my life in a big way and I just don't know if I'm ready for it well you know with that said too and I'm going to wrap it up now but like you know

and I would really love to see where you're at at the end of the year I mean you might wind up meaning a guy and you just have such strong feelings for him that eventually it does become like, okay, you know what, I am willing to do that and you just never know. It'll be interesting to see where your story goes. But even more so the fact that you have this, these feelings too and these desires and you have this conflict because of, you know, the people around you and your friends. So like even more of a reason, just find yourself somebody to talk to. It'll really help you stay in touch because like talking to me and what you're talking. talking about and all this talk. It's just like it's so good to do. And, you know, it just helps

stay clear. I do believe that you're clear on who you are for sure. I mean, you haven't had one problem telling me anything about you. So it's just important to stay in touch with that and keep talking about it. So you remain open and you allow whatever is supposed to happen to happen and the best way for yourself. And because you have these different things going on, I think you should get yourself a therapist and keep keep keep talking you know and yeah it'll help i'm i was going to say i'm not totally against that absolutely and i definitely appreciate your perspective on it and obviously you've you know had enough people you've talked about enough stuff like you have you do have a healthy you know understanding of it and i think it is a good perspective i'd also like to throw in there

that with you know being attractive guys or this something that. Like, I want a more healthy, more normal relationship. And a lot of times, guys that are interested in guys don't necessarily want a guy that's into feminine stuff because a majority of them that are kind of, I don't want to say normal. Like there's. Yeah, they want to. Yeah.

Yeah. Not necessarily, you know, not normal, but there's not a lot of guys that are attracted to men that are like, oh, yeah, I totally want a guy who I'm interested in guys to dress like a woman. For sure. Of course. That's why you need to talk. But I will say that if you're open to dating a man or a woman, your pool of people, you know, that you could, it has more fish in there if you include the guys that are willing to accept it. I know that it's still a less, less of the population of guys, you know, gay men or bisexual guys that would date a guy. Yeah, it's going to be less than that. It's got to be a bisexual guy that's into a guy who likes to be feminines.

sometimes, you know, that's, but it still adds to your pool of people. Do you know what I mean? It's still going to be a little bit more people out there that you could potentially meet that could potentially accept you for who you are and you could potentially fall in love with than if it was just you were only open to women that way, you know, but if you found a woman that it was open to, you know, you being that way and being open, maybe being able to be with guys, I mean, you've heard all the kinds of stories on my show. I mean, there's so many things that could happen for you and you can wind up in all kinds of scenarios. And I'm curious of where, like I said, you will be at the end of this year. So you have to keep me posted. Who will you be dating?

You know, will it be a woman, a man with this guy that you're talking to now that you kind of like, like I said, you might wind up really falling in love with a guy. And if he accepts you for you and that's the right person, you might decide to tell your family like this, it might become that time for you. Who knows? It'll be pretty. interesting to see what happens. You're super young. So keep me posted and let me know. I will and, you know, I like to throw it in there is that I had a friend of mine,

a good friend of mine who didn't come out until he was like late 30s. Uh-huh. That, like, I don't think anybody really expected or, you know, even had a thought about him being gay and he's not by, he's gay. Yeah. And like one day he just said, fuck it. Yeah. I'm going to do it.

Yeah. This is me. His parents are, you know, still around. They were accepting his best friend when he told him was like, so. Like, I don't care. Exactly. You're still the exact same person that I know. And like, it was kind of like the same story with his brother.

brother, like, when they, like, he was all nervous and he showed up to his house. He's like, I need to talk to you about something. And he told his brother. And he's like, okay. Yeah, like, what are you doing for dinner? And he's like, wait, that's it. And he's like, yeah. Like, dude, I don't care. My brother, I love you. Like, doesn't affect who you are. At the end of the day, I'm just going to tell you this. You probably might be different because it's your father and he's got his religious things and whatever. But at the end of the day, most people give a shit about themselves. Do you ever spend all of your day thinking about anybody other than yourself? No. And everyone's like you. We all will think about something no matter how crazy it is for like, I don't know, how much can

your attention go to somebody else, five, ten minutes. The rest of the time we're all thinking about ourselves and our own lives and what's going on with us. And that's how it is. And I think we all get really caught up in our head thinking that somebody else is going to spend their whole day thinking about the fact that, you know, you like dudes. And they're going to think about it for 10 minutes, even if they're shocked. And then you know what they're going to do? They're going to go back to thinking about themselves. That's what you do.

That's what everybody else does. That's what I do. That's just the way people are. So, you know, like I said, it'll be a little bit more complicated with your family because there's other dynamics going on there and your dad might, you know, that's a harder pill for him to swallow. And he might be thinking about you more. You know, that's a parent to a child relationship is different.

But everybody else will think about it for 10 minutes and go on with their life. So let your freak flag fly. Let me know when you do it and keep me posted. And stay tuned to here for your episode because it'll be out very soon. On a Friday. I do them every other Friday. All right? Thank you so much.

Thanks so much for calling in. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks, Cody. Bye. Bye. Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to follow the show.

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