Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 536 - Sarah is an Orgy Director at a Swingers Club

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

Sarah (aka the Toronto Unicorn) is an orgy/gangbang director and she called in to talk all bout it. Why did she decide to take on that role? What does it entail? And, where does she set up all these orgies and gangbangs? Tune in for all the details which include how and why she started helping women at the swingers club she frequents, how she started feeling about threesomes after her years of her hardcore swinger sex and how that led her to changing things up, what she loves about what she's doing now, how the women benefit as well as the guys, how she directs as well as dominates the scenario, the specific questions she asks, the whiteboard she uses and why she uses it, her orgy fanny pack and what exactly is in there, how she caters the men involved and why that's important to her, the number one request from women that she gets, what she would like at her own orgy/gangbang, a recent gangbang she set up that turned into an orgy and exactly what went down, why she's been in a dry spell lately and what she's eventually looking for, how she wants to eventually turn this into a business, the merchandise she now makes to sell to swingers and a whole lot more. YOU CAN FIND ALL HER STUFF HERE: ⁠https://campsite.bio/torontounicorn⁠ and Onlyfans here: ⁠https://onlyfans.com/torontounicorn⁠ **To see anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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on Marie, aka Toronto Unicorn. Most people don't know what a Toronto Unicorn is. I do because she has a YouTube channel and I knew her from there. She was on the show before and gave her whole backstory.

And her backstory was super interesting because this was like a single girl who hadn't had sex for years, like I think it was like 10 years. And then she wound up like going to a swingers club all by herself. And then she became a hardcore swinger. And where she's at now, you won't believe.

She has started up. as the resident orgy gangbing director at the swingers club where she is a regular. I think she also does it at other swingers clubs. You're going to have to listen to the whole story. Like why she started to be this orgy director. What does it mean? She's very specific. She is there micromanaging orgies and gangbangs and making them the best they can be.

She even uses a whiteboard. I swear to God, this is how hardcore she is. She's not just a hardcore swinger. She's hardcore at everything she does. If she's going to be a fucking orgy director, she's got a whiteboard, okay? You're going to go in that room. You're going to fuck one of her girls that hired her to be the director of her favorite

orgy. And you're going to know exactly what that girl wants. Sometimes she's dominating people. And if that's what they want, she will boss you around and make you do the things that you want to be made to do. Okay? She talks about very specific orgies and gangbings she has set up. She walks me through a recent one with a girl that started out as a gangbang but turned into an orgy.

We talk about the difference. But basically she's doing this because she really does like to help people. She's really like using her psychology background, okay, because she does have a psychology background, even though she's not a psychologist, to help vulnerable people feel safe and open up in their intimate lives. I personally think it's a brilliant idea. We get really hardcore into it. The details are so interesting. Her stories are fascinating.

She does talk also about the fact that she is kind of in a dry spell herself. I mean, there she is at the Swingers Club every night directing all these things. But she's not really having sex with anybody. She talks about why she's in her dry spell, what that means for her, like why it's happening, and what she's eventually looking for. And then she gives out all of her shoutouts because this girl, Marie Toronto Unicorn, has her own YouTube channel

where you could see all of her, like her whole journey from being a girl who has never had sex in 10 years to a swinger. She has a podcast now to Toronto Unicorn. All of her information and links are at Toronto Unicorn.com. that link will be in the description. She also sent me for my Patreon picks of like this merchie.

Oh, that's the other thing she talked about. She, like created merch, funny, like Swinger Club gear merch. And she sent me some picks of that. All of that is on my Patreon, but you're going to want to check her out. All of that information is in the description. I'm going to be right back on with Marie, aka Toronto Unicorn. Hi, Marie, aka Toronto Unicorn. How are you? Welcome back to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be back in chatting with you again. Yeah, well listen. It's a bit that's got down since the last time. Yeah. So the last time you were on, you talked all about how you got into swinging. I mean, you have, and I found you and knew of you from YouTube. You are somebody that is out there doing your thing as a swinger. Your whole story and backstory was super interesting.

I will link to your first episode. because that's where people could get your backstory and how you became a swinger solo. I mean, you started at solo. It took a lot of balls. And that whole story is on your first episode. But in this episode, we're going to talk about something new that you're doing. Besides the fact that you did start a podcast and we'll give out your links to all that stuff at the end too. But you are now a quote unquote orgy director, which I fucking love.

I've heard of gang bang organizers. I've always wanted to talk to one of those. But now that I know that an orgy director exists, I'm so excited to be talking to one, especially one that is female, which is so interesting to me. Yes. And it's not something I thought existed before I created it either because I looked around my environment and saw a need, saw an opportunity. Yeah.

And I found some really good, you know, fulfillment out of it. So I did not know it was a thing either. Now, explain to me like how this whole idea came about. and why you became a quote unquote orgy director and what that even means. Okay. All right. So because I love that you like the long winded answers. Yes.

On my channel, I'm like wippy, you know, so here I'm going to like give you a bit more meat on the bones. I like that. I can't wait. I can't tell you how many times people will be like, well, to make a long story short, I'm like, don't make a long story short. My show's an hour. Like I want the long story.

That's what we do here on my show. So walk me through. That's so funny. Yeah, that's what I like. All right. Well, I'm going to make my long story longer. Yes. So it basically comes down to the fact that I have been a swinger for a few years

and I've had a lot of fun and I've had a lot of experiences. And then it kind of feels like, well, what's one more pile of people having sex in front of you? It doesn't like, what's the novelty there? Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So I hate to say. Like I felt a bit desensitized to threesome, foursons, swapsom.

swapping because it's all in front of me all the time because I hang out in lifestyle clubs, which are like on-premise sex clubs, right? Yeah. So it's always all around me. It's not that hard to be in a threesome. I find them to be a bit generic at this point in certain in certain cases. I mean, I love some of the like the couples that I hang out with, but I don't get that, that, you know, excitement in my belly about a threesome really anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So then I, you know, was sitting out. I was metaphorically on the bench, but still hanging out, my friends and there's DTF nights where women show up to take multiple men and DTF is down to fuck in case people don't know some yeah it is yeah it's a down to fuck night

at the swingers club you just saved yourself a lot of headache in your comments section yeah um so yeah so women show up there and I've seen many times where you know they will go and you know pick men and and have their experience now I don't want to to minimize people's experiences in any way. But I can see it look a little fumbly here and there, okay? I see some shy people, right, who sometimes just stick their hard dick into the situation and then back out as if they're like backing up a truck

because they don't use their hands. They don't think to finger the girl. They just think they're there to dip their dick in a girl and leave. And so I'm seeing the girl not really getting what she wants either because maybe that's not exactly what she had. her fantasy mind, right? And so here's how I got involved. I started to have friends beside me that I knew how they enjoyed sex because that's what swingers do. We want like we have sex in front of our friends, even if we don't have sex with our friends. And so I knew how these girls wanted to be

fucked. And I first of all picked these handpicked men the first couple times I did this that are part of my journey. They are men that one of them is the one man I ever know, like only one man I ever really let dominate me. So he's one I highly recommend to my friends because every girl deserves to be fucked like that, okay? Right. So that's why in that situation, he's a friend of mine. And so what I did is I went into her head first.

I kind of like got her alone and I said, you know, what is it that you really enjoy about this? And because, you know, every girl's different. Every body's different. Every man's different. And she would say, I want my hair pulled. I want, you know, I want him to grab my boobs, but not super hard around, but like this. I wanted to slap my ass.

Some girls say, I don't want this. I don't want my hand. You know, I'm like, so I'm here taking mental notes. And then she says something very, very important. This is a daddy dom dynamic in their lifestyle. So it's kind of like a male dom that's going to be like, kind of like overpowering her in a great way. That's like really exciting to be like fucked like that.

Like it's really exciting. So anyways, she likes to call him daddy, but she doesn't want to do it voluntarily. And this is a very important distinction. that would have remained buried unless I was there. And so I went and I had my one-on-one with him. And I said, what is it that you want? And, you know, he was a bit more resistant to, like, laying out his needs.

But I already knew him. I knew he doesn't want a finger in his ass. I know he likes his nipples played. So I didn't need to get a prescription, okay? So then I tell him the following. So I said, she wants to call you daddy. And then he's like nodding. And I said, but she wants you to make her call you daddy.

And then he looked at me and cocked his head. And that was the moment I realized that he saw the value in what we were doing too. Yeah. So then we all go into a scene together. Now, I'm with one of my friends that I don't actually play with, but I'm very comfortable to fuck adjacent, meaning I don't play with her, but I can fuck beside her. But anyways, I was in the scene helping it unfold. So while they're having their moments, I would grab her hair and pull it back and

remind him that that's the feeling she wants, right? And then he would grab her throat while I was doing that. So she would be like getting that feeling she asked for, things like that. So anyways, I was in the middle of a scene calling the shots. Like literally like did you give him eye contact, you know? Like, and then she'll suddenly look up. And of course he gets off on that. So it was really magical to see it off.

It really is like a director or a coach. I mean, you really are in there like. spoon feeding them exactly what they need to make each of their experience top of the mountain. It's actually brilliant. It is. And because I've had so many surprisingly amazing successes in the sense of I have seen women who are new to the sex club environment less than a month old. Yeah. Who have now let me run a gang bang for them because they saw me run one for someone else.

I really feel like as a woman, like that would be very comfortable. comforting to know and what a great thing you're offering. Somebody like a woman like that going in, if they're very nervous and it's new, to have somebody there who's been there before. That's also another female and understands them right there with them, having their back directing them. I think there's a lot of comfort in that.

There is. And with one of my play partners, I actually dominate her. So that's very different than directing. Directing can be neutral, right? Yeah. But dominating is something that I do a certain. partners where I dom her as a female dom.

So she's my female submissive and her boyfriend is like fucks at both. It's great. So anyways, when she does a scene now she does gangbangs all the time. She is a wonderfully happy slut and the perfect girl to bring to every party. Anyways. Did I have her on my show? Was she on my show? Was that the one that was on my show?

No, she wasn't. No, she wasn't. I don't think yet. Okay. And so anyways, I will go and I'll bring her there and I'll have her on a leash. and I'll look at her and I was like, are you going to make all the boys happy? Because I know exactly what she wants, right?

I know exactly the mindset she wants. And I grab her and like, I open her mouth and like, let me see, make sure you're good enough. And anyway, so then I'll start to invite the men. And I'm doming her. So I tell her, like, I'm picking the men who fuck you tonight. And she's like, yes, ma'am, whatever, right? Yeah.

So then it's really fun because then I make, it's not about me being like mean or domineering in any way. The men enjoy it. a lot because I'm actually very inviting and diplomatic to the men. And so I'll say things like make all Cox feel welcome whenever a new man is like shy, you know, shy around the corner, afraid to kind of whip his dick out. I'll make sure that she makes them feel invited, you know, so that I'm making her be the best little sexy submissive slut she could be.

Yeah. And so I'll remind her, look up. Did you give them eye contact? Did you tell them how much you like their dick? And so then she'll listen and she'll do those. And I'm seeing these men like, look at the love. Like they like look different in their own skin five minutes later. Like because they're allowed to fuck her face the way they want to.

And I'm able to encourage that. Right. So they have permission. They are literally given a blueprint how to fuck this girl. And, uh, and they get to go home feeling like a stud. Right. Yeah. So it's kind of win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win situation.

And do you, let me ask you what you're getting out of it. Are you turned on by this or is it just stimulating to you because you do like to help people and because you've already been there done that with everything. This just is like an extension of what it's like fulfilling to you in just a different way. Well, I found it to be so incredibly fulfilling for a few reasons. I've decided to launch a business based on this, on consulting. How do people actually accomplish a threesome, right? Like some people out there have no idea how to actually break through the Springer world. And if I could offer that coaching, It doesn't have to be in-scene sex I could offer coaching on.

It could be anything. But if I'm going to go to the club anyways, and I could help a woman who, you know, wants to have her divorce party go off without a hitch, well, I'm going to make sure she has a solid line of hard erections coming at her when that's what she's hoping for, you know, because sometimes that's not what happened. Sometimes it's a lot of men who have performance anxiety

and the girl does not know how to handle it. Yeah. But wait, so you're... First of all, I'm slightly obsessed with this whole thing that you're doing. I think it's so smart. I totally understand why you would eventually go into this direction. It's kind of like in line with the girl who, you know, you were a swinger before, but you started a YouTube channel about it.

And you're always talking about it. And you're always helping people. And you're always an information spreader. It's your nature. So I could, it really makes sense for you. I feel like I would be the same way a little bit. So I totally get it. And I think it's like great.

And I'm like, while you were seeing it, I was like, this is like great for regular couples. I mean, eventually it could be really become something that you do for a lot of people. But I'm wondering right now where you're at, because you're in the Swingers Club and you're able to do it there. Are you working it in the clubs? Is it something that you go to different clubs now in your area and dominate people and set up and direct orgies? Or how are you moving forward it as like a service that you're offering to other people? So for now, I'm doing it ad hoc and not for any financial exchange because that would take a whole another legal side. So I would have to get that sort of first.

Yeah. So for now I'm doing it for friends and friends of friends for the most part. And that's it. And then the men who are participating, they're like the lucky men who get to participate. I think for me, the reason I do this is because I see the potential of such great sex and everyone and everyone's too fucking shy to get it. Yeah. And I feel like I am so unabashed. in a room of people to like, you know, take the, you know, almost like the social stigma out of

saying something weird so that people feel more comfortable to say something weird back, you know? Yeah. And so I like to pull this information out of people. And so they can have a better experience. They even learn. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. I have asked four or five women in a row, what is it that you want to feel in sex?

And they took a minute to answer. Yeah. Think about that. Yeah. So you need to even figure out what do you want? Yeah. Why do you want that? You know why?

Because no one's ever asked them that fucking question. Well, think about it. Sexual Uber Eats. If you could order your perfect fantasy delivered, fill in the ingredients and send me a list, that's how I want the information. And for some people, they want it to be blindfolded so that they don't feel any pressure about who the men are participating. And that can be a big source of comfort for them.

And really, like, it's to each their own. Some of them want to be really, like, hit hard. hard. Some of them want to be bruised on their ass. And I'm the one that has to tell men this when they're walking up to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not all men are comfortable doing it either. On Uber Eats, they have a little bottom comment section where you could put in the extra stuff that you want. I'm always very particular. And I assume that a lot of people, everyone's different, like you said, and everyone has their own specific fantasy, but the different parts of it are going to be different depending on the person. And how does anybody know? They can't read your fucking mind. And if you're there

and you're in the moment at your swingers club and you don't know this person, which is a lot of time the case. You know, how are you going to max out that sexual experience by having you there helping? It's true. And I don't know anyone else that is as bold as I am to literally go around the pool and talk to whoever I feel like talking to in the moment. Because when it's not me at stake, when it's not my sex that I'm having, and by the way, I don't get turned on by it. I get very stimulated by it. And I feel as though I'm almost like leveled up in sex. And it's like almost like sex on drugs. That's what it feels like to me.

I feel like intoxicated after in a great way. Like it's gotten to the point now where now I have a fanny pack. So I have my own swinger merchandise line like clothes and accessories like. Oh, you do? Oh, I do. And I'm having a ball with it. Like so super fun designs. But I basically designed my own orgy director of fanny pack.

And so I wear it when I'm in a scene. And it has like lube and like things in it that I might need. right? Yeah. And then now I actually bring a whiteboard that I pop up because every girl or ever, so far it's the girls that I'm helping fulfill, but I'm by no means limited. So far, it's like no anal is their limit or like no kissing, whatever. Yeah. So now instead of having to educate every man that walks in, I'm using like my business like Six Sigma mind to be like, let's find efficiencies. And so now I'm bringing a whiteboard and writing, you know, no anal condoms are required. So it's on the wall. So they could walk in, you don't have to go up and explain that or have that as a conversation. That kind of stuff is already there. Brilliant. Yeah. Like obsessed.

Yeah. And then people can decide if they want to participate or not, right? Yeah. You know, from a far. And so. Oh my God. And the psychology in me, so I have an undergrad in psychology. And that I never got to use it because I never went all the way with it.

Yeah. But now I can sprinkle it into this, right? And not, you know, I don't need to be accredited with a, you know, psychological associations to do so if I do it correctly. But basically, I can use my understanding of just human psychology to also make people who feel vulnerable feel safe. And one of the most important videos that I've put out on my YouTube channel recently is talking about how I will never reject a man in the middle of a scene if his dick doesn't work.

Because it is probably their worst fear in life. And I want to, even if we don't want, even if we need to move him around, there is definitely ways to do that without calling them out, making them feel singled out or inept whatever. And so I try to remind other people about the humanity in single men too because they are, I'm telling you, they are sensitive and shy and nervous about this as you wouldn't even believe. Yeah.

I see them outside after. Yeah. And listen, the worst thing you could do to a guy, whether you're in a swingers club or not, that can't get it up is fucking talk about it. Okay? That's not going to get it up. It's going to keep it down.

I once had a boyfriend who couldn't get it up. He had a getting it up problem when I first showed up. And he used a lot of cock rings and stuff. But I was so horny for him because he was like really dysfunctional with me. And I would be like put it in soft. I could have cared less that it wasn't fucking hard. And never once did I even think about it. I was just like shoving it in there soft to the point where eventually that dick never was soft anymore.

Because I treated him like a total sex object. Never once talked about how soft it was. And I cured his problem. And I'm like, duh, that's the way you do it. You don't fucking talk about, why can't you get it up? What's going on? You just keep going. Make it just be, you know.

Yeah, right? Swear. And he got mad at me for fixing his dick problem because he didn't like the control and the power his dick had. That's why he had the getting in a problem. Talk about psychology. But I, yeah, but I think that is great. Could you just please walk me through like, uh, or, recent orgy situation that you directed.

And then I still have a million questions. Yes. So this is a girl on my YouTube channel's friend. So I have to keep in mind that a lot of my friends that I hang out with now were fans turned friends. So they found me on YouTube. Yeah, it's really great. Like they find me on YouTube or TikTok and then they go to Oasis and then they see

me there because I'm there a lot. And then the ones that, you know, I bond with, I end up becoming friends with. And so I helped her friend have her very first gang bang about a week ago. Maybe it was two weeks ago. And she was a little nervous. She said that she's like a, you know, a very important kind of has an important job. And she's always in control at work. And she just for once wants to feel that she is not responsible in those moments.

She just wants to feel, you know, different. And I said, okay. And I said, so what is it that you want to feel? Like I understand you want multiple men, but what is it that you want to feel? And her, along with every other woman I've worked with so far, has said at least the following, they want hands all over them. Interesting. Everybody, big body, small body, doesn't matter. They want to feel hands on them, especially multiple hands.

Yes. Very sensual. It's a very erotic, a bunch of old's energy from each of the different warmth. Like, it's very exciting. And so men are a little shy to do that, right? So I like to make sure I pull that out of them. some girls are saying you know I want to be called good girls some are saying don't call me good girl so like I have to yeah some girls really want degration right and oh my god it was so funny

there's one of my friends that she she likes to be called a cow like she even wears like cow print and so in the middle of a scene I was like are you being a slutty little cow for us and I think people were so confused but why I was talking to the girl that way but we had an understanding right so anyways back to the story so she was in the pool. She was a bit apprehensive. And I looked at her and she had to go in like 45 minutes. And I said, look, I said some things in life are just not as far away as they seem. Would you like to get this done or not? Right. Yeah. And she was like, sure, okay. And I said, all right, well, let's look around, shall we? And so we basically, you know, I got her opinion. Does it matter, you know, what they look like,

whatever. She gave me her preferences. Everybody is different. For her, she said no one like super big, I think. And then usually she just said, like, sometimes someone's energy just didn't jive with her. And so she would say not him, but she wouldn't know why. And that's okay too. I should mention one of my hard limits as an orgy director and everyone could be different is that I don't reject men. So if I'm going to be, you know, disinviting a man or something from a scene, I'm not going to be making him feel like a bad situation happen to him. I very much an empathy. I'm, you know, sensitive to people's feelings. Yeah, that's cool. And so I make sure the girls know that even if you don't want that man, you do not yell at them and kick them out. Right. I will handle it in a very, you know, constructive way. And I've had to pull a man aside before and say, look, nothing personal.

She's just not into your energy tonight, maybe next time. Now, let me tell you, I've had men come up and look at me as the most genuine face I've ever seen saying, thank you. Like, thank you so very much for what you gave me today. Because they were treated like humans too, right? not just cattle coming in or whatever. So anyway, so we pick these men. And there's one of the men that is involved that I have now coined as the goddess maker. Because the way he fucks women has a way of turning that woman into some sort of goddess after.

And I've seen it happen. Really? So, yes, just he's very good at taking control, kind of being convincing as a dominant, and making a girl who may never have been, you know, had rough sex before. you know, understanding the appeal of it, frankly. So this man,

I pulled him aside and, you know, I said, look, I need you as a starter. Like, I was like a football coach, but I'm like,

look, I'm putting you in to start. Your first line. That's just so funny. Right? Because I said, look, we need this to go off

on the right foot. Yeah. And so I need you to take her and make convince her that this is what's going to happen to her, right? Yeah. So he was like,

you know, okay, sure. I huddled the men that we had selected. Actually, this is very true. What happened.

And one of them left before participating because he thought it was for me, not the girl I was doing it for. And so once he realized that it wasn't me having sex with the men, he had to be backed out. Oh, interesting. Because he was like invested in you when he was down with you, but he wasn't down with the girl. And he hadn't seen her yet. He might have misunderstood what I was offering, right? Like, you know, he might have, I was fucking all these men, but I really, it was for my friend. Yeah.

So that's okay. So that kind of thing happens. So I huddled the men in and I kind of said to them, look, this is what she likes. She doesn't want to be degraded. She doesn't want to be called Good Girl. You know, she wants her ass out. She wants her boobs scrapped. And so they're nodding away, right?

Like, you know, good old soldiers. And then we go in. Yeah. And we're in the red room, which is a giant orgy room. How many guys at this point do you got for this? Oh, this was we started with three. Okay. We tried for four, but we started with three.

Okay. And then the first guy, you know, got it off to a good start. And so I was kind of amongst them in the red room. And so was my friend, um, are at the time. And so she actually has been inspired by my orgy directing lately. And so she actually has started to help in the scene too. Um, and so she was actually like laying beside this girl who's our friend with, who's our friend and like saying things to her and like helping her kind of stay in the moment and stuff.

So it was really a really cool thing to see how us friends came together to pull this off. But the woman, like, I oversaw it. I was walking around. I made everyone, you know, use a condom. I checked in with her. She really got what she ordered because, you know, when a guy was, you know, not able to fuck, you know, I'd be like, well, why don't you go and, you know, why don't you go and, you know, visit her mouth for a moment?

And then I would get a guy who was hard to come in. And then we ran out a hard dick and I had to go get more. You're like the wrangler. I mean, you have a job to do. So you got to keep that. I hustled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hustled.

And then I got halfway down the stairs and I saw a guy who was a fan from my channel and I looked at him and I pointed and I, you know, just did my come hither with my finger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was it. And he came up and he participated. So, you know, if I was a producer for Real Sex HBO, I would like run with this little story and do a segment on it. It's so interesting because it is something that can be started in other Swingers Club.

I mean, a lot of people listening to this, at least even when I'm listening to it, I'm like this is something that could be used in a lot of different areas. You know, it could be in every swingers club. Like, other swingers clubs would be smart to have this kind of set up. Because I think word gets out that you could go to this place and there is this aspect to it. It really makes people more anxious to go and less leery of, right? And I think that if I was listening and I was an owner of another club, I'd be like, I should do that.

or if you're also like it could also just be for regular couples. I mean, there's just so much that it sort of could be. It's true. I will say that there is a club near me, M4, Nisissauga, that has certain ganglang nights where they do speed dating and the women give out bracelets to the men that they choose. And then like at a certain time, they like go and fulfill the fantasy. So there's some structure in some clubs. And then there's not as much hands-on structure for what I know. But who knows?

I mean, I feel like a lot of people are inspired from watching what I'm doing. that I almost have heard more stories of people doing the role because it's okay to now. They've seen someone do it. Why not step in and ask someone to put it in her ass? Like, you know, like, why not drag the seat a little bit? Yeah, and it doesn't take away from the scene. It's not taking away that you're there because you're dominating. Like, the people are getting off on that too.

Oh, I can imagine what this must look like. I have seen crowds of people watch what has happened in these clubs. And then at one point one of my gangbangs was going on and I opened a bag of chips and I was eating a bag of chips behind them. And one of the staff looked over. She's like, you're freaking hilarious. Because I was literally just like watching my people fuck. It was hilarious. This is why I said like I could see this being like an episode of real sex.

It's like these are things that are going down that, you know, is happening. And because it is real life, you ate a bag of chips while you were doing it one time. Like that's the stuff that no one would write into a scripted show if you paid them. They'd never be able to think that up. But that's like what happened one time, which that's why I like real life shit. Because that's the stuff that I always notice that I'm like, oh my God, you can't make this shit up. And I'm getting like drunk off the idea because now I design clothing for women to wear on DTF night. So I have a few examples.

One of them is a fuck neat dress. It is basically a bunch of like pictures of meat and then the word fuck all over the dress. So if anyone is in the lifestyle who knows what fuck meat is, it's a certain level of submission close to slave that wants to be treated that way. And so if you wear that in a club when you're rounding up men, you're communicating something way beyond what was available with your words. So that's one of them. I also have a queen bee dress, which is like honeycomb. and then there's like queen written on the ass or like on the chest. And then I have the crown as either LGBT pride color or just black and white to indicate like whether or not you're looking for bisexual experiences.

So I'm like really building on this now. Yeah, it's pretty fun. Yeah, because I feel like there's so many different directions you could go in and it could just and it can become bigger and bigger. And I mean, it's right now it's just in your club, but it could be something that you do everywhere. But and then it could also just be something if you could come like if you could really write out that menu, right? That you would be on Uber Eats that you get all those things. You eventually compile that as a list. That's a fucking e-book thing that you send out to everybody.

Yeah. Because it could help just couples because the key to great effing sex is always knowing what your partner wants. And a lot of times people don't. communicate those things. So if there was a list that was there that was, you know, you're going to know what that list should be. You're going to be the best person because you're basically in the middle of it doing the field work, you know. Like I really hope to do like couples like coaching too. Because for me like there's so much value in even just watching people have sex and learning where the vulnerable moments might be where someone might not be getting a fulfillment. You know, maybe I see an eye

role where the other one doesn't. Things like that. It's almost like that nanny. where they come and see why how badly your kids are behaving and then they give recommendations. What was her name? I'm going to come and see how you're sex is. Yes. No, 100%. That's how I see it.

I see it as like consulting for couples. And also like women. I mean, yours backstory is so interesting because you went from being very vanilla, you're not comfortable in your own skin to like really jumping off the cliff. Like in one swoop. Like you just did it. You didn't.

walking slowly. You just jumped off and did it and really changed your whole life. And that's like super inspiring. So you could help women like yourself. So here's like I have so many like topics. I had to like quickly make a list because I have so many topics. But the women that I meet at the club who walk up to me and look me in the eyes. First of all, they look at me like I'm Beyonce and I'm still getting used to that. And they'll say to me one of them I told you last time I think she said, you know, I saw you hadn't had sex in 10 years. She's like, I'm on 14 years. I didn't know you could come back from that, but you did. And so then she thought that she could.

And then she found herself in the sex club. Now, fast forward two months. And now she's hooked up with like three men. Don't you love that? Doesn't that bring tears to your eyes? Like chills up your spine and we're talking about sex. But it really is deep in a way and it is transformative for somebody. And there is value in it.

And you are helping people. And I fucking love that. Yeah. Well, for me, especially the women empowerment is very important to my soul. Like to see women and how sex has been used against us to shame us and to make us feel dirty and all those things. Like I'm telling you, we can rip that shit off like an old bandaid and literally decide to live under a different set of principles that we decide we want to live by. And once you realize that the validation does not come from anyone else, it comes from what you do

and how you want to live your life and the pleasure you get, you will find people in this lifestyle who don't judge you for your lifestyle decisions. How refreshing, right? Yeah. And so for me, I see people every single time I go to the club who I've changed their life because they said, I didn't even know this place existed. Now, you know, my wife is like interested in a threesome. Like, thank you for what you've done for my marriage. I get these all the time. And so I think for me, what is what has happened over the last few months is I've seen the impact of my content of the access I'm giving to the lifestyle,

to the sex positive, you know, sex club lifestyle. Yeah. And it's changing people's lives because Vanello world is. fucking boring. And if you're someone like me who has always thought sex is very fascinating, you don't have to play by their rules anymore. You can come into the other side. Right.

That's why I like to help. Yeah, no, I love that. And you are doing that on your YouTube channel. Like I said, I will give all the links to your YouTube channel because they're going to be able to think. What other things do you have on your list? I want to make sure that you get everything in. I mean, I could go in so many different directions, but I do want to make sure you hit all your topics too.

Yeah. No, I think for me, the the most important thing I wanted to mention is some of the top things I've learned even just doing Orgy Direction is I'm putting a video up about this probably today actually. But one of the things that every single woman has asked for is that hands-on body experience, even if they're like plus-sized women. Yeah. And so I think the lesson, the takeaway from that is please don't be shy to grab our bodies and like touch us and experience us because you may think that we're self-conscious, sure, but you can make us feel beautiful with your hands. The other one is if you're trying to communicate with somebody about what you want in sex, find a porno clip that shows what you want, share it with that person, and also explain what about that clip you like because there could be other details that are irrelevant

or even upsetting, whatever, right? Yeah. That is the best communication tool to get what you want out of sex because you can visually show somebody on a clip and then you can almost have that recreated for your fantasy. Right. And now you're based in Toronto. I mean, what do you give like, I mean, so people that aren't in that area that are listening that want to, you know, have the same kind of experience you have or feel more comfortable. They could learn a lot from your YouTube channel. I mean, that's what you're doing there. That's the way you're helping people far away from you that maybe can't go to that club and see you. Right. It's true. And I also have on my website a link to actually find clubs and not only clubs, but even just like maybe chat groups. somewhere about in your state and city or whatever. So you can actually go and look for Las Vegas or, you know, a lot of people are, I'm telling you, a lot of people are in those conservative freaking states.

I'm saying a lot of people are swingers in those states. So Indiana, all these people, I'm like, yeah, so they don't know what's around them because it's hush, right? It's very taboo. And so I help people connect with people in their local cities. But I also, there's one more thing I really wanted to mention about the fantasy fulfillment that I think expanded my mind so much that I wanted to share it. Yeah, please.

So I recently was invited to do a video tour of two other sex clubs in my area and put it on YouTube so that people could see the inside of these very normally secretive places. Yeah, I love that. And so it's very good. You know, I got to experience other clubs, other sex clubs. And to be honest, it was a bit of a culture shock. It wasn't the same experience from club to club. And so I ended up in a club with a stripper pole and an audience.

And I realized that I have a fantasy that has nothing to do with sex that I could also fulfill. And so I got in my skimpiest outfit and whatever. And it didn't matter that I did not know how to work that pole. I just wanted to dance on that pole and love it, right, in front of people. And I did. and it was the most gratifying, fulfilling thing, then it makes me want to go and do it again, right? And so I wanted to almost expand people's mind

about fantasy fulfillment because it's not just limited to sexual gratification. What's another fantasy that you wanted to accomplish but don't necessarily know how to make it happen as a one-off? Right. You know, so it was pretty mind-expanding. Yeah, because it changes your confidence. Like, that's what you're saying, right?

It's not just about pleasuring yourself. It also changes the way you feel. about yourself. And also opens your mind to what's possible to fulfill for your soul. You know, you may want to have certain things, you know, you may want to try anal sex or like get deped. Sure, that's in one category. Yeah. But what if you're an attention whore?

And I say that affectionately because I'm an attention whore. What is you're an intention for? You never got to have her day or his day in their moments. That's what I mean. Yeah. It's a very, it's like common. It's because you never had that but wanted it. And now you're getting it.

you get exactly and it's everything you could have ever imagined it to be you know yeah and why shouldn't you have that if that's what you want or you desire and i think that that's great that you're experiencing this all in this world that you came into now are you having any kind of sex now in the clubs or you just orgy directing well i'm not going to lie like it's been a pretty dry few months because I have opportunity. I'm demisexual. Sometimes I know I've explained demisexual before where I need emotional connection to want to.

Yeah. But lately, I feel a bit more asexual. And that's be, in my opinion, that's because I need a man who has passion for me to fuck me hard. I've had plenty of swinger sex.

Swinger sex is great. It's also like recreational set, right? I want that one-on-one, throw me against a wall, fuck me hard one-on-one sex before I really will feel revved up about the spinger sex for myself again. I just need it. I crave it. And it's been a hot fucking minute and a half.

And why haven't you been able to find that? Do you think it's because maybe, you know, you're not, right now you're just so busy with like work and everything that you do, probably. You just are not, your lights probably not on to have that guy come over and be like, hey, let me occupy your time and be this person for you. Because that would be a little bit more of a relationship going. on, right? Like, it's not like I'm like against sex. Like I actually had a potential booty call lined up with a man that I've known for years. Like this week, I fell through. So it wasn't like I'm

anti-sex. I just for some reason, like I do have a growing fan base. And so when I meet people, I'm really, I'm engaging with them as Toronto Unicorn. And so I'm more friendly. And I can't really be that open and friendly if I think they want sex for me too. So I'm in a way, I've almost compartmentalized being Toronto Unicorn around these people, even though I'm in that same club. And I don't necessarily want to have one-off sex with someone for that hot moment, a passion. I just need more. Or something different. You need not as Toronto Unicorn.

Is that what you're saying? Like that part of you is. No, I just need romance. Yeah. No, that's what I mean. It sounds like you more a relationship. It's not even the relationship. I think I just, well, even if it's a relationship, it wouldn't be like an exclusive,

necessarily even romantic one. I just want to feel what it's like to be passionately fucked again. because when I'm the third or the fourth or the fifth in a group, yeah, there's hot sex going on. Yeah. But like after you've done that for six months, eventually you almost miss that almost the vanilla sex, frankly. Yeah. Yeah. The one on one.

Yeah. You know, give me your fucking attention. Sex. I'll be responsible for your come shot at this time sex, you know? Yeah, only because you went the opposite. I remember once I dry humped a guy for like two hours with our clothes on and I was like the fucking hottest experience. And I'm talking like when I was like 40, you know, or 30. I don't know how old I was, but I wasn't a child.

And my friends were like, how the fuck could you waste your time dry humping? I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, dry humping's great. Like, try it. Like, there's something about going the total opposite direction when you're a grown up and you could do whatever you want. Like, try, try helping with all your clothes on. It's like really hot because it's like the opposite.

It's not something that you do all the time anymore. I could have anal, naked, regular sex. But sex with your clothes on is fun. It's fun because you don't, it's not, it's not the norm. The norm for you has been this over-stimulating, lots of people in the room kind of sex. And because you said you kind of got desensitized that. You're like, want to go in the opposite direction. And that happens.

And maybe you'll go back. Yeah. Right? I kind of want to just balance it out. Because then if I have another partner, even if, again, they're not an exclusive partner, then I can build orgies with that partner. And that gives it a new level of excitement. Where right now, if I participate in an orgy, I'm participating with the people who are selected that night.

Like, it's just not necessarily the same thing. By the way, I have to one more point, actually. Remember how you said the orgy story? Well, it started off as a gang bang. Remember three men on one woman? And then made it an orgy with another woman joining in. My friend joined in because she saw how well one of the men fucked. And so she wanted to turn her.

And so that's how it turned into that. And so this is the whole pile of people having sex in front of me. And it was hilariously, like, awesome too, you know. Right. Now, what were your, I mean, okay, so if you were going to have an orgy or a gang bang, are you into orgies or gangbangs yourself? Well, if I knew and selected the men, yes, I would be. Would you ever be able to pass that rain onto somebody else and let them be the director

and you be in the orgy? Like, do you think you could ever do that or no? I don't think so. I think I would micromanage it or backseat driving. I don't think so, but I also still would have to pick the men. Like, there is a level of just non, you know, I'm not interested in stranger sex. So for me, it would be very important that I handpicked who is fucking me here.

Yeah, but let's do it for fun. Like, if you let's let you be the director, but you also be the director. girl that's going to do the orgy. How do you, like, what are your questions for yourself and what are your answers? Wow, that's an interesting because no one's really asked me that actually. Yeah, let's do it. So if I were to answer and I knew the men, so let's just get that part out of the way.

Yeah. I would want, I would probably want three men on me. I would want to be eager, what is it, ergonomically set up so that I didn't have struggles with my wrists or knees or anything. Okay. But I would want to be fucked in the, you know, I have to be careful. I know this goes on YouTube. No, no, no, it's okay.

I add it a little bit for YouTube. Yeah. Do yourself. Okay. So I like to be like fucked in the pussy. And I don't think I'll ever be able to do a DP. That's not my fantasy. Okay.

But then I want to feel almost like I'm struggling, keeping up with two dicks in my mouth because I want to feel overwhelmed with, first of all, all the male energy around me. but I want to feel responsible for like for getting them off too. Like it's it's kind of exciting to be the one there. It's also a lot of pressure. But that's what you're like. There is something about that.

But also the hands on me and making me feel like I'm being devoured with their like hands is like a great feeling. So those kind of things. Wait, what's on the whiteboard? Any kind of things that stand out that you would put on that whiteboard about yourself during that orgy? Yeah. I'd say no anal because I reserve that for our boyfriends who have been nice to me that night. And so that would be one of mine. I think I kiss and stuff, so that's okay.

And I would do that. But I think I would say condoms are required. Yeah. And sensual is important. So that men understand it's not just an, it's not just a, you know, transaction. Yeah. And hands and hair. I like that, especially when I'm sucking a blowjob, the least they could do is get

the fucking hair out of my mouth, you know. You mean hold back your hair? Yeah, and effectively. Like, some guys, like, they do it cosmetically and that there's still strands hanging down. I'm like, this is not helping. That's because they're just holding it back so they can get the view. You want it back so that you don't have it in your fucking mouth.

Exactly. Here comes a video on my YouTube, you know. Yeah. I think those are the things. I think for me, it's like, I want, girl women, from my understanding, they want to feel devour. They want to feel like, like, I'm almost. it's just like that men can't control their arousal.

Like that makes us feel a certain way. Yeah. And so we want, I want that to, you know. Yeah, it's funny. I had another girl on who's very into gangbangs and stuff. I mean, she's just got a very super high sex drive. She's coming out on my girl talk episode soon.

And she just had a threesome with three guys. And she was saying how anal is just for her main guy. She's in a relationship with a guy for a year and a half. And she's like, oh, that's save for Daddy Dom. It's interesting that you have the same thing. Like, anal is something you would do only with a guy that you are one-on-one with. Is that what it is?

Well, yeah. Yes, I had a submissive who was a three-hole girl, and I even made her a crop top on my shop that says three-hole princess. Yeah. And so she was willing to take men in the ass. The problem is that, unfortunately, these men weren't that great at warming her up correctly. Yeah. And they fumbled around and caused some damage.

and then she wasn't able to use her ass. So we just don't trust strangers in the ass for the most part. Is that what it is? Yeah. Well, there's just too much at risk. Yeah, no, of course. Yeah. For me, I wouldn't.

I wouldn't let a stranger there. But I also just think, like, there's also, it's a bit vulnerable. Like, you could have, like, you know, like something on the end of the condo. Like, you could have an embarrassing moment. You don't want to necessarily do that with some strange person that might make you feel bad about that, you know? Yeah. Now, I know that you just are into mostly guys. I mean, you've had experiences with women too,

but I'm assuming that sometimes have you been a director for a women with women thing? Or is it typically like a gang bang or, well, I guess an or geo is a bunch of different people, right? Yeah, I think I haven't done a bunch of women yet. But because of what I'm seeing, when women watch me direct a scene for someone, then they line up and ask me to do one for them. So what I'm learning about that is that women

are seeing something in the value in this, right? And even if they don't get me to help them, they've seen the value in what I'm doing. And so maybe they could even sprinkle it in to their own sex, right? Like, I think there's lots of ways that people could benefit from even just learning the importance of communicating what they want, eye contact, whatever. Like some guys, they get so mad if you use a hand in a blowjob. And then other guys want a hand in a blow job.

So you've got to know these things. Otherwise, how can you even please them back? Some guys don't want the hand. No. Some guys get pissed off if you use a hand. That's weird. That's like the best. The hand in the mouth at the same time.

That's what it's all about. Well, wait a second. I'm talking more about like face fucking where like their girl's mouth is like a hole that they're just kind of penetrating. I forgot. You're like hardcore. This is hardcore. I forgot I'm hardcore too sometimes until I realize where the line actually is. Yeah.

You're like, oh yeah, Kathy. That's like in your world. That's like vanilla world. I'm not talking about vanilla world blow jobs. You're talking about face fucking. You're right. I have a very different experience, a lot of more richness in my sex life. But I will say that I feel very normal. Like I still feel like the same person than I was before where I had exposure to this. I just think I'm very liberated and so are the people around me. Yeah. And we just don't necessarily feel abashed to to live our best lives. And I think that's

really all. I know I sound extreme. I get it. I know I sound. I know I sound. extreme, but for me, I'm having the time of my life and I never, I never would have guessed this for myself either. So it goes to show that once you get comfortable in this lifestyle, you know, the end, it doesn't necessarily have to be the threesome you fantasized about. Maybe that's just the beginning. Yeah, you never know what it leads to. But I think sometimes that's what, that's what's stopping people, that fear of what does it uncover. It's opening Pandora's box and people are afraid of, will it consume me? What will I do? It's like that guy that had the getting it up problem when his dick wasn't was getting it up and he was fucking me even though he didn't

really like me he didn't like the way that felt and he had no control of himself because he's like fucking someone he wants to fuck me but he doesn't like me and it's like confusing some people have a fear of that kind of stuff taking over so sometimes I think people are afraid of that first step because they worry what will happen after what is it snowball into and will they be able to handle it and stuff and that's why it's great if there is a Toronto Unicorn Director in there sort of walking them through a hardcore experience like that, their first time so that they feel comfortable and realize. And I think with anything, I remember when a boyfriend took me to like a nudist beach. Like if you think about it from the outside, you have all these sort of ideas about it.

But once you're there and you're just there, it just is like anything else. It's no different than being anywhere else. It just becomes like the norm when you're in it. When you're out of it, it seems so much more exciting and crazy. But when you're there, you're just like, okay, I'm naked and I'm sitting on the beach. And, you know, it's kind of hot and whatever. And I think it's no different with these kinds of stories. And that's what I always kind of like to show on my show is that I think that people think these kinds of experiences and people that do these kinds of things are these certain types of people that live in this certain type of place that you don't know. And it's so weird and it's different. But you're just a regular person and doing this. And it doesn't make you, you're not any different than anybody else. You're your experience. are different and you're doing a lot more like you said hardcore things but you still feel like the same person it doesn't change you you're not a fucking different species these are and that's what i like to show so i think that that's great i had a question for you have you ever hooked up with your fans if

someone reached out and saw you on youtube and it's like i think you're fucking hot and i want to get down with you could i come to the club like does those kinds of scenarios happen for you and do you take them or do you keep or do you separate that well it's funny the last time and the only time I did your podcast, I had just slept with a couple, like a male, female couple that was fans. And then you're like, you fuck all your fans. Oh, yes. I remember. Yeah.

So I really don't sleep with my fans, but my fans usually participate in my scenes if they're respectful gentlemen. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it's a good thing that they know me and come up and say, you know, I'm a fan and I like your content. And then if I see them later, they're going to stand out, you know?

So that happens. But yes, I absolutely could fuck my fans as well. as maybe the right one comes around. Yeah. But for me right now, because I'm in my asexual phase, I'm not even looking for that. So I'm kind of just looking for friendship and fulfillment in that way right now. Well, listen, I think it makes sense. Like, when did this whole orgy director business thing all sort of start for you?

How long ago? It started about maybe two months ago when I started to have a female submissive that let me take her to, I'm going to say, this affectionately, whore her out. Yeah. She wanted me to take her to DTF night, which is gang bang night, and whore her out. So she and I created this dynamic where I picked the men, I, you know, I made sure they treated her the right way, you know, all those kind of things.

And so it was kind of just like me and her learning how to have our friend's friendship in a different way. And then it kind of just kept creating ideas. And then people would come up and watch what I was doing with her and, you know, making sure she greeted all the men nicely and you know like at one point i said that i could hear her talking which mean there wasn't a dick in her mouth and like that's how i talked to her because like you know she has a job to get busy yeah she wanted to be talked to like that right yeah yeah yeah i i ended up having a lot of fun doing it and then the more people that were around were so fascinated by it that then they would

be like you know the next time i'd see them be like oh well do you want to help me with mine yeah and then they just kept building and building and building to the point where like even if i didn't express interest, people ask me for help doing this now. Yeah, and then you got content for your YouTube channel, I'm assuming, and you're like, oh, this is great. And people probably really love it and you really see the need for it. So it just benefits you. And I think maybe that's why you're quote unquote, asexual now or not really thinking about

it because you're so consumed by this because it's new. And it's just taking up probably a lot of your time. Yeah. In a way, like I don't know if it makes me a sapy or sexual or not because I have a lot of a mental stimulation when it comes to sex. Like when I watch sex, I don't play with myself. Like, unless I'm masturbating specifically. Yeah.

I don't, when I'm at the club, I don't, it doesn't occur to me to touch my vagina. It just doesn't occur to me. So I already, because you're in work mode. No, just in general. When I watch sex, don't actually get aroused in the same way. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm stimulated.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So it kind of works the same way with orgies. Like maybe if I was another person, I'd be over there fingering myself. But because I'm, I'm, I'm, mentally almost like I'm playing like almost like three dimensional like sex chess it's like it's so stimulating in so many other ways that like I don't even notice my vagina you know yeah um you're not you're not you're not in that part of me what well see I said I hope I get railed really hard by a great man soon

I'm not opposed to it I'm just so picky right now because I want it to be passionate and great that I'm not willing to settle for mediocre sex in between but yeah the thing is there's a lot of people in this lifestyle that wonder if there's a place for them, if they're also either asexual or too shy to maybe participate with other people, but maybe as a male, female couple, they want to come and just be around sex or just have sex with one another. And these people, like, need to see me represent them too, because yes, there is a place for us. And even though I'm not there having sex with a bunch of people, I'm still invited to their parties. I still go and have a great time. And so in a way, I'm really honest about the fact that I'm not necessarily having sex a lot right now.

Because I want to be relatable to people also who aren't and still wonder, do I belong there? Yeah, it only helped. Yeah, no, absolutely. I love that I've been through like a lot of tough things in my life because I feel like I could relate to people from firsthand knowledge, having actually experienced it. If you were just one dimensional and we're into orgies and gangbings and that was you 24-7, then you could help all those people with that. But you maybe wouldn't understand these other types of people.

But because you're living that now and now you're like in that mode, it's only going to help you go forward. And that's great. I think that that kind of stuff really helps because that's when you could help the best. Not somebody that, like, read a book someplace. It's the person that actually experienced a different headspace. Now, you know, this had space. And you'll be able to help those kinds of people.

So I think it only benefits you for all of your endeavors because at the end of the day, what I love about you and what's interesting is you are an expert. You have made this not only something that you do for pleasure. It's your business. And you've done really well. You have a really great following on YouTube. You started a podcast. Do you have an OnlyFans?

I do. And a lot of TikToks. And a lot of TikTok. I don't know how the fuck you last on TikToks, but we'll have to talk about that another day. You can help me. I hate fucking TikTok with them kicking me off for content. But why don't you give a shout out to all of your stuff?

I will put links to everything in the description, but give shoutouts. And then I want you to send some picks of like, your, you know, for my Patreon of like the clothes that you're selling and every, all that stuff. Just send me a couple picks up for my Patreon. That'll be great. But people could also go and find you everywhere. I will put the links, but give your shout out right now. Awesome. So everything is on Toronto Unicorn.com. I've got all my social media links there. A link to my merch site, which is the swinger shop.com. I do want to mention my channel in the

sense of it is meant to show my journey in a lifestyle that was new to me from the beginning. So the first few videos, you know, are me not even knowing I was going to be a swinger. And then the rest of the few hundred videos, you cross and see me cross that Rubicon and become who I am today. And for some people, that's what they find relatable, is seeing the innocence and the curiosity and maybe even being naive back then and watching me learn as I learned how to become where I am today. And so I do that in two ways. Like I do vlogs and story times about the same event.

So what that means is if I go do a DTF night, I'll do a vlog, which is basically the same day. I hold the camera up, show what we're doing. You know, I talk outside the club. And then later I do a story time, which is the details, the front to back details of what went down. Now, YouTube has kicked me off many times for saying too many details. So I always have an after dark version on my only fans. Now, sometimes this is more just like the really raunchy details that I can't say. So they pop up a tit and like have a different kind of story time.

So it's a different kind of leveled up story time experience too. But every experience is that rich for me. Like I really juice it for all those things. So people can watch either just my stories about the events or just my vlogs or both. Awesome. And they can find everything at Toronto Unicorn.com. Is that what you said? And then just on YouTube search Toronto Unicorn.

Okay. And it's all one word, but they'll see that in the thing, right? Toronto Unicorn, one word, correct? It is one word, yeah. Okay. But you can still find me with the other, but that's how it goes down. Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Thank you so much.

I'm so glad that you came on. I'm like obsessed with what you're doing. I think it's great. I totally understand it. And I think it's really interesting. And I wish you luck. And six months from now, when it's turned into something even bigger, we'll do another episode and talk about that because I feel like that's when you'll have like a new book to sell or something that many more people will be able to get something out of it from you besides the videos.

There's a lot. Like there's this unfolding every few months. I have this new venture idea. But I think if I could leave one lasting thought with people who maybe are intrigued by the lifestyle, don't know how to get started, you know, whatever. I think that a lot of people think that. they need somebody to go with them to a sex club to make it okay. And they hold themselves back until they find that person. And I'm telling you that that is the biggest fucking mistake because you should never

have to convince somebody to go to a sex club because the people whose eyes light up when you say sex club are the people you want to hang out with there. And if you don't have any that are already there, go alone, find them inside. You'll find your friends. You just haven't met them yet. That's what I like to say about the lifestyle. And that's what you fucking did. That's what people have to know.

that's exactly what you did. And all my friends that I've met took a chance. They all came alone too. And we all met each other. So like stop trying to like twist some friend's arm who doesn't want to go because like they suck. They just they're not going to have fun when they go anyways. So go alone, bite the bullet, figure it out. And then you'll see that sometimes you have to immerse yourself in the environment you want to be in.

And then to find the people around you that love it too. Right. Well that's your, that's like you that last thing that you just said should be a part of your services. Like you could help that person at home walk to the club and walk fucking in. That's the coaching that you eventually offer on your Uber Eats menu. Okay. So anyway, that could be something that someone orders too. Besides an or just a swingers club experience solo, my first one.

Anyway, thanks so much for calling in. I'm sure we'll be talking again soon. This was great. It's going to air this Sunday. Wonderful. I'll send you those photos before end of day. Okay, thanks so much. Toronto, Unica. Marie, thanks, Marie.

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