Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 540 - Viktoria had an Affair with a Famous Youtuber and an Instagram Influencer

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

Victoria had an affair with a very famous YouTuber as well as an Instagram influencer and she called in to talk all about it. How did she wind up hooking up with the Youtuber? What exactly went down between them? And, how did she wind up with the Instagram Influencer next? Tune in for all the details which include her troubled backround which included her being a victim of sex trafficking and how eventually got out of that situation, the red flags she should have paid attention to, how and why she hit up the famous Youtuber to begin with, how he eventually got her to fly in and visit him, what they did together and how that led to s-e-x, how he was in bed, how and why their situationship never turned into anything more, how and why she went to meet up with the instagram influencer, how much it cost her and why she had to pay to begin with, how they wound up having sex, the racket he has going on and how she went back for more, the Youtube channel she was hired to do fitness modeling and how it turned out to be soft core porn, why she wants to start camming and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of Viktoria + anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Because this girl, Victoria, she had me laughing so much because she had like her crazy stories today. tell. She's three different stories she tells on this podcast. The first one is dark and fucked up, and the next two are hilarious. Okay, she starts off talking about how she was in a very bad relationship, like human trafficking. She was like groomed by a very bad guy. I mean, thank God it ended with him like splitting town. And she tells that whole story, which is fascinating. And then she talks about a very famous YouTuber, like a YouTuber with millions of subscribers who was way older than her,

who she had an affair with. Now, I know when she emailed me, she had told me that the story was filled with heartache. I felt like when I talked to her, she didn't cop as much to the fact of how devastated she was when that relationship ended because it did end and she talked about it because I think she really did like him, but she talks about him.

we don't out anyone on my show, though I do know who it is. And I want to see who you people listening to who you think it is. Okay, guess go to YouTube, go to my Instagram, guess who the fuck she's talking about. You know, it's interesting how she hit him up, how he hit her back, and how they wound up in bed, and how they wound up sleeping together and why it ended. And then she had another crazy story about another, like, Instagram influencer. Like, another influencer, but this one is on Instagram. And this one's hilarious because it's like this guy. And she talks about how she found him and he's on Instagram.

And she told me his name too and I saw him and he's really effing hot. Okay. We don't out him either. You're going to have to guess. But he sort of sells himself as like a spiritual guru. But really what he is, I think is like an effingigolo because she paid him for S-E-X. Okay. And she talks about it, how she met him, what he offered.

I mean, you won't believe the racket that this guy has going on. And then all the way at the end, she talks about how she was modeling for another YouTube channel that was very big. She gave me the name of that one too. And then it turned out like, it was supposed to be fitness modeling, but it was kind of like soft porn. This girl has some stories. And then she did say she wanted to do camming. But I do know because I recently spoke to her and told her I was airing her episode that

She put that to bed, no camming, none of that stuff. Instead, she's writing a book about her life, which I think is great because I think it'll help her work through her stories and the stuff that has happened to her. Writing a book is very healing. It's really a great way of getting things out of your head and out of your body and onto a fucking page and done for it. You know, there's closure in writing sometimes. So I think that that's great for her.

I do have anonymous picks of her on my Patreon. You could sign up there, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The link to that is in the description as well as everything else. And then if you want to see me be interviewed by Toronto Unicorn, okay, she started her own podcast, she got a YouTube channel. She interviewed me. You could see half of me, like my torso area, you know, the anonymous video. There's video of me, but it's anonymous.

My head's cut off. But if you want to see me interviewed by her, the Toronto Unicorn, she's been on my show before. She has her own YouTube channel. I just did her show and it is posted up there. The link to her YouTube interview with me, which is really fascinating, is in the description as well. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Victoria. Make sure to go to my Instagram or go to my YouTube and give me guesses of who you

think these influences are because they're big people, okay? Millions of followers she's talking about. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Victoria. Hi, Victoria. welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today hiding out in your car? Oh, I'm doing happy to be here. Thank you so much.

No, I'm going to say thank you ahead of time because I know you're going to tell me a whole story. I think you ended your email. Like it's a story of betrayal, sex, heartache, all that kind of good stuff, you know. It's going to be a story that has a beginning, a middle, and in an end, you are a young girl. You sound super young to me and I know that you dated an older guy who's like a YouTuber,

a famous YouTuber photographer that she had an affair with him and he lived far away and things went south and you're going to tell me the whole fucking story. Now I'm changing your name. Your name is changed. Your voice has changed. Nobody's outing anybody here. but tell me what happened to you, Victoria, that you want to. I mean, you emailed me that you want to tell your story. So get to it. Okay, yes. I have a couple of interesting stories and I can end it with relationship with the older man. So first of all, I am a human trafficking survivor.

Wait, I forgot that. Wait a second. Was that in the email to me? I think that's what I said in the email. I can't remember. Okay, okay. I had a lot I was going to share. Oh, okay. So this is not just one story. This is a lot of shit. Okay, even better, Victoria. Okay, start with the human trafficking. That's hardcore and crazy. Okay. So growing up, I kind of grew up in a very unstable and abusive household. My father went to prison when I was in the third grade. So it was kind of rough growing up. My mother was a single parent and she had a boy. friend who abused me and my sister. So I kind of fell into depression. And right when I got out of high school, I somehow got involved with a man. He was somebody that was promising me for world and told me that I would live a better life if I chose to be with him. And what happened was

that he wanted to use me as a vessel to make money for him. That was his intentions. He wasn't going to give me a good life. He just wanted to use me to make money. Yeah, he was using you to give him a good life. Right. Exactly. She was an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. So for about seven months, I was forced to do things that I did not want to do so that he could have money. I had no control over my own body and I was abused daily. Oh my God. Were you still living at home or did you move in with him? So what happened was about after high school, I moved in with my grandmother,

but I ended up traveling with him. Oh, okay. That's what happened. So he and I were pretty much living together in a hotel. Right. So you didn't really have anyone you could go to and talk to. I mean, he really had you wrapped around his finger. Yes.

And he didn't want me talking to anybody. If I had like my sister and my aunt were the only two people who called me. And if they called me, he got really, really jealous and just didn't want me to talk to them. So I felt very isolated. Yeah, that's by design. You know, that's on purpose because that's the way they control you. Yes. And I couldn't even eat food without his permission.

I had to dress and look a certain way. And I just didn't even feel like I was a human being anymore. And some people might be wondering, why didn't I just leave? The reason I couldn't is because he threatened me and he threatened to end his own life. if I left him and I felt very responsible for him. Like I just didn't know what to do. I was very young at the time. I was a teenager.

And how old was he again? Do you think? He was, he was 42, 42. And how old were you again? I was 18. Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, that's fucked up. I never, listen, I never question why someone doesn't leave.

I think it's like psychology, maybe not psychology, 101. Maybe it's psychology 102. But it's very common and it's exactly what happens in these kinds of situations that somebody is powerless to leave. Even if they could walk out the fucking door, they do not. And it's all that stuff that he was doing to you, the manipulation, the not letting you eat the control, not letting you have any kind of outside influences so that you feel totally alone, you know, telling you what you can do, what you can't do, then guilty. you that he's going to kill himself. All of that shit is like a mind fuck that makes you powerless and gets you under his control. So to me, I always understand why somebody doesn't

just leave. I think other people don't and I don't understand why they don't because every time you hear about these stories, it's always the same thing that the person doesn't leave. And I know it doesn't make sense in your mind because you think, oh, I would leave. But in psychology and anyone that studies this kinds of behavior and mind control and grooming, and you know, and you and all this shit. This is what happens. It's always the case. Yes, absolutely. And before this even happened to me, like I never, I didn't really know what human trafficking really was. I didn't understand how people got involved in it. It just didn't make sense to me before all of this happened to me. But now I completely understand

why this happens to people. And it does happen to a lot of women often. Yeah, crazy. And listen, And your childhood and what, I mean, you were right for the picking. I think maybe you left with him because you didn't have any hope at home either. Yes. He knew that I was having a lot of problems with my mother and that I felt like I was being controlled by her and that I couldn't do what I wanted to do with my life. He knew all of that was going on in my life and how trapped and how stuck I felt. Because I just didn't know what to do with my life.

And he just took advantage. of that and lied to me and promised me the world. Right. It did exactly the same thing, but 10,000 times worse than what was even happening at home. Unbelievable. Now, how long, so for six or seven months you were with him? Yes. And so what happened was about, I still told us, I can't believe that this even happened. But one night, he, I thought, I, he attacked me in our hotel room and I honestly thought that he was going to kill me. His hands were over my throat. And I swear, I thought that he was going to kill me at that point.

Yeah. And I just remember thinking to myself that I'm going to go to heaven and that it's going to be okay. But I just hope that my sister is going to be okay without me. But for some reason, he didn't kill me. I think he was just trying to scare me. Like, I don't know what he was trying to do. And that morning, I woke up to a phone ringing. And it was his phone.

And he was talking on the phone with somebody. And I don't know what they were talking about. But he ended up putting his clothes on so fast. And he ran out the door and didn't even say anything to me. I don't even know why the heck he even left. He just put on his clothes and he ran out the door. And I was like thinking to myself, okay, he didn't tell me where he's going or what's going on. Or when he's coming back or if he's coming back.

Yeah. Yeah. And so I was sitting on the bed thinking, what do I do? Is he going to come back? I mean, I was kind of thinking, well, maybe I should just call my sister and tell her to come and get me. We were only, say, like a half hour away from where she was living with my grandmother. And so I thought, well, maybe she can come and get me because she had a vehicle. Yeah.

And so what I did was I ended up calling her and I just told her that I just want to come and see you in grandma. I didn't tell her what had happened. I just said, yeah, I haven't seen you in grandma in a long time. And can you please come and pick me up? And so I told her where I was staying and I grabbed my belongings and I grabbed my belongings and I was waiting for her in the lobby. And I was kind of keeping an eye out to see, you know, if he was in the hotel or if he was coming back. So I was kind of like hiding myself a little bit in the lobby. And he didn't come back. And I was even checking my phone. He didn't call me

or leave me a text message. Anyway, my sister came and got me. I remember that right when I got into the car, I started bawling and just crying. And I was confessing everything to her, telling her that this is what's been going on. And I'm like, so sorry for everything. I'm sorry that I never told you or grandma. I'm sorry. I never called any of you guys. I was just crying and confessing everything to her. And she said to me, do you need to go to the hospital? Are you hurt in any way? And I said, no, I'm not hurt in any way. I don't need to go to a hospital. I just want you to please just get me out of here. I don't want to see that person ever again. And I'm so scared that he's going to find me. Yeah.

And she told me, you probably are going to have to tell mom what's going on. And I said to her, I really don't want mom to know that all of this has been going on. Mm-hmm. And so anyway, I ended up telling my grandma about what was going on, and she told me, well, maybe you should try to press charges against him. Yeah. And so my grandma and my sister and I were kind of talking about what we should do. And I said to her, he doesn't know where you guys live. He doesn't know where my mom lives.

He doesn't know where anybody lives. And I said to her that I'm too afraid press charges against him. I don't want to have to be humiliated in courts and have to relive all of all of those horrible experiences. I told them that I kind of just want to hide for now. I just don't want to face it right now. I want to just get on with my life and let it go. And they told me, okay, that's your choice.

If you don't want to deal with it, you don't have to. But if he does contact you, you need to change your number. And so anyway, I ended up getting a job at a hotel and I was kind of just getting my life together, but surprisingly, I didn't hear back from that man. And I ended up finding out why I didn't hear from him. So what happened was that I ended up getting an email message from this man's mother. The mother, okay. Yes, his mother. And she wanted me to call her.

And so I ended up contacting her and she told me she actually got arrested for possession of heroin. And he wants you to know that he's in jail right now. And I said to her, I'm sorry, but I don't want anything to do with him. And that's all that I said to her. And I said to her, please tell him that I don't want him contacting me. and if he does, I'm going to change my number. And he did try calling my number from jail. And I didn't pick it up and I ended up changing my number.

And ever since I changed my number and changed my email address, I never heard from him ever again. I still to this day have not heard from him. Wow. Do you know how long he was in jail for? Do you know if he ever got out or what? Because that man is a fucking danger to women. The fact that you were like,

oh, I don't know, I thought he was going to kill me. It was like a coin flip. You were either going to be killed or you weren't. That's the kind of person, though, that could cross that line in a fucking instant. Yeah, so what happened was I ended up Googling him and I found out that he ended up going to jail for like half a year. Yeah. For that drug charge. But I couldn't understand why he went to jail for so long.

And said that, like, he did something to like, mother. and her child, and that's why he went to jail for such a long time. And I thought to myself, well, I didn't press charges against him, but I kind of felt like he was getting what he deserved and that the law was kind of doing what they could to put him away. Yeah, no, I mean, I understand your reasoning of why you didn't want to come forward. And unfortunately, that happens a lot of times too. There's so, it's so loaded. All those things you explained of why you didn't want to press charges when it was brought up are the same reasons why a lot of other women don't. The fear of the ramifications, the shame of having to live through what you did.

Like I said, it's very loaded. It's understandable. Thank God that he was put in the fucking slumber for something else. That's somebody that needs to be locked up because the fact that he put his, fucking hands around your neck and was choking you like that, it means that he is capable of doing that to somebody else. And it's just a matter of time before that he could actually kill someone. Do you know what I mean? I watch a lot of date line. This shit happens. I think people don't understand that it really does happen. And these things, you know, so you have to be careful.

And not to say that you weren't careful, but thank God he got that phone call and got the fuck out. You're lucky. Yeah. If he had a. gone to jail, I don't know. Maybe I would still be in that situation. I mean, I still to the say, can't believe that even happened. It was just a call. I think you might have not even been alive. I mean, that was like, that happened right after that time of him, like, choking you out,

okay? Because he got angry at you. That's, you were just, you were saved, okay? Like, that you're so lucky that he got, like I said, got that phone call and left. because you might have not been able to have left. And like I said, it's just that time you were lucky. Something, the switch made him stop. But the next time it could have been the switch made him not stop.

You hear about it. I'm sure when you see stories like that Gabby Petito story or stories where these things happen to other women that you could understand. And that's why it's so important for women who are with anybody that is abusing them. Maybe they haven't gone all the way and done anything that bad, but it always starts out with these little things. And then if they snap, it could be the difference between life or death.

And that's like a fucked up situation. Yes. I always tell women that you have to just be aware of red flags. I mean, if you see a red flag, the natural sign to get out. And all the red flags were there from the beginning that this man was no good. he was lying to me that he was a predator. All the flags were there. Why don't you explain those so that other women could know what you're talking about?

And you're saying flags. It's flags. I don't know. You're saying it's so weird. Flags. Where are you from? Actually, I'm Canadian. I live right by Canada.

Yeah. Yeah, we talk differently up here. Oh, you love it. I was like, what the fuck is a flag? I know. I know. We have a different accent. Yeah.

I like it. Okay. So wait. So tell me the red flags. Okay. I'm going to talk like it. Canadian. Tell me some red flags so that, you know, like educate some women so that they know. I think it's important. Okay. So if a guy is very, very charming, I mean, like, unusually charming and is

making promises to you and saying that I can give you the world. I can give you all of this money. I will take care of you. I mean, come on. Men who are predators will tell you what you want to hear. Right. So I always tell women, do not be with you. the guy that is kind of making it sound like he has all this and that because he's probably just trying to trick you into something. So that's what that guy was kind of doing to making a sound like that. Oh, I have all of this in my life and I can give you this. I can give you a world. I'll take good care of you. I mean, that's just, I mean, come on. It's when you look back, how old are you now? I am 28.

Right. It's interesting when you look back at 28 and you look at someone yourself as 18 and you could see yourself in such a different way. And you're so obvious to you now, but at 18 it wasn't. And I think that's the problem. You feel like you know a lot when you're 17, 18, 19, but you don't. And that's why these predators come in and do what they do. do and sometimes they could be successful at it because you don't know as much at that age. Yep.

How do you know? Who tells you these things? There should be a fucking class for women. Grooming classes. Grooming in a bad way. This is how people, they're going to fucking groom you. We all learn when we're younger by going through things. But what you learned and what you had to go through is really extreme and very hardcore and

very scary. And like I said, it's life or death. sometimes these situations. So it is important for women to be more educated and I think at a much younger age because you just can't expect young girls to know these things. So I know there's other things you have to talk about. I want to make sure we get to everything. I know that there's the YouTuber that you have a relationship with and there's also a male companion that you pay. Which one do we want to go first? Go in chronological order. We can talk about the YouTuber. I mean, yeah.

Let's talk about it. How did that happen? What happened with the YouTuber? Explain. Okay, I ended up finding his YouTube channel back in 2020, and I really liked the YouTube channel. I resonated with it, and I thought it was really fun to watch. And I was like, you know what? I want to be a guest on his show. I think it would be fun. And so I emailed him. And I said, hey, I would like to be on your show. And he said, okay. And so he ended up calling me and we set a date to do our interview together. And what happened was that the whole entire world went into locketown. Oh, shit. It was around then.

Yeah. It was around lockdown. And I remembered thinking to myself, I don't think I'm going to get to do my interview. I mean, like, I was looking for flights. I mean, to go out there and do my interview, and there was like nothing. And I live right by Canada. So I knew that there was like no way I could actually just drive there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so I kind of just let it go. I sent him an email telling him, I'm sorry, I can't make it to do my interview. And I never heard back from him. And I kind of just let it go and just moved on with my life. what happened was that six months later, I ended up watching one of his YouTube videos. And at the end of one of his YouTube videos, he wanted his, like, viewers to kind of give him, like, suggestion for like a next video for like something that he should do. And, and I thought to myself, you know what, I'm just going to email him.

I'm not going to leave a comment on YouTube because I don't really want people to, like, see my comments. So I ended up emailing him. I didn't tell him that I was a person that he was supposed to interview, but I gave him a suggestion, and he really, really liked it. He liked my suggestion. And then he ended up sharing something very personal with me. And he told me, I've never told anybody this in my life. So he sent me this a very personal email message.

And then I sent him a personal email message. And then he sends me his phone number and says, I really would like. to talk to you. Let me ask you a question because like I'm a YouTuber. I have a podcast too. I have people emailing me all the time. You hear from your listeners. At this point he just thinks you're a listener, a fan reaching out. I mean, did he have a picture of you or anything? I mean, how is he getting so personal and involved with you like right off the bat at that moment? Or did through that emailing exchange, did you cop to the fact that you were the girl that was supposed to be interviewed and stuff? I actually sold to this day. Do not know if he actually knew that I was a girl that was

supposed to be interviewed. At the time, he had no picture of me, but when we were emailing each other, he said to me, I think you're a very intelligent woman. I like what you have to say. You have so much wisdom. And I really would just like to talk to you on the phone. And I was like, well, he doesn't even know what I look like. And he wants to talk to you. And he wants to talk to him. And I thought that was really strange. And was he like a very successful YouTuber, but you must have been excited if he's like this big YouTuber that you're like a fan of his show.

And now he wants to talk to you on the phone. Yeah. I mean, he was a very successful YouTuber and had millions of subscribers. And I, oh my God. Okay, listen, we're not outing anybody on my show, okay? Because it's anonymous. But I want to know who the fuck it is. You're going to tell me, right?

Oh, yeah. I'll tell you. Yes. So now, wait, it's interesting. Though, I'm just going to tell you straight up because as somebody who has, like I said, a show and I have a YouTube and I have listeners like, I think, and I don't know how anything turns out with this YouTuber, okay, but I'm just going to tell you right there, that's like crossing a line. But maybe that's like his MO. Maybe that's how he hooks up with a lot of girls. They get to slide into those DMs.

I mean, I guess that's what happens nowadays. Maybe I just don't do that and I should. I don't know. But it's interesting that he would cross that line. He didn't have no pictures. He just liked what you had to say. And he said, oh, you're like, seem very intelligent. Let's, here's my phone number.

And then what happens? Well, I ended up calling him a few days later because I just wanted to know why he wanted to talk. And so I ended up calling him. And we talked on the phone for like an hour. I mean, he and I just clicked. We really just clicked. And I thought he was a very funny guy, very interesting.

And we kind of just talked about his YouTube channel for a while. And then I said to him, I actually wouldn't mind coming to California in a few months. I mean, would you be interested in meeting in person? And he said, yeah, I think it would be great to meet you in person and I will take you out for lunch. And so that is what we have planned to do. and so I ended up booking a flight two months later to go visit him in California and I remembered thinking to myself why am I meeting this guy I don't know who he is but we've been talking for about four months already now during that time when you're talking for four months are

are you I'm assuming you know what he looks like right because he's this big you tumor but at this point have you sent any picks of yourself so he knows what you look like? I did. I actually sent him two photos of myself. I sent him to them, yeah. Right. So I'm assuming he's attracted to you at this point because he's seen you. So he did. Yeah, I think he was attracted to me. Yeah. Yeah, of course. No, I mean, I'm just making sure this. Like he's not flying you in or, you know, he's not going to have you come out after four months having not seen you, right? So he sees you. You know, He's talking to you. He thinks you're smart.

And then he's like, oh, send me a pick. And now he sees that you're hot. You're obviously hot to him. I don't know what you are on a scale of one to ten. But he obviously thought you were hot because he's like, yeah, come into town and I'll take you out to dinner or lunch. Yeah. Now, wait, does he know your backstory? Or you never put those two together.

Like you said, he never knew you were the girl with the backstory of the human trafficking and all that stuff. At this point, you never went back into all that stuff? actually I don't think he knew that I was the girl that like wrote to him but I didn't tell him that I was a human trafficking survivor until it was actually at the beginning of this year I told him about that but he kind of knew a little bit about my life story I just didn't tell him about the human trafficking part right okay so let's go back I just want to drag this out a little bit because it's so fascinating to me because I didn't to think I know who it is. Okay.

So you go to California and you take, he takes you out to lunch and then what happens? Okay. We went out to lunch together and then he took me to where he does his YouTube channel. And I thought it was a pretty cool place. So he was kind of like showing me around where he does his YouTube channel, like introducing me to people that he works with and that help him out. And then he says to me, do you want a tour around the city? And I said, yeah, I mean, let's do it. So he was kind of like driving me around the city, taking me to like all of, you know, interesting places to see.

We ended up driving by the ocean. And so we kind of were like driving together and just talking five hours straight. That's kind of what we were doing. Yeah. He was just kind of like taking me on this like big tour. Yeah. That's fun. And now, how old is he, by the way?

He's way older than you too, right? I mean, was he in his 50s? When I met him, I think he was like 60, 61, I think. He was old. But he's handsome. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, to tell you the truth, like, I'm not attracted to older men in general.

Yeah. But he was just such a nice guy. Yeah. That I was just attracted to his person. I thought he was a really nice guy. He treated me like a queen. I mean, he was really nice to me. And I kind of just like felt like sucked in. I was like, wow, he's a really nice guy. You know, I'm attracted to him in that way. Yeah, totally. That's interesting. So he's driving you around for like five hours, that first trip showing you, treating you really nicely. Like he said, nice guy. Yeah. And so it was getting like really late in the day and I said to him, you know, I know that you probably have a lot of editing that you have to do and said to him, you know, you can just drop me off at my hotel. It's no big deal. It's getting late in the day. And he said, yeah, I mean, I can drop you off at your hotel. And so anyway, I told him that I had a gift for him and it was in my hotel room. I bought him a gift. And I said to him, do you want me to just quick go up and get it?

And you said, no, I mean, I can just, you know, come with you and get, come with you and grab it. And he said, that's fine. So, yeah. Great. Well, I mean, you, I mean, you created that window of opportunity for the guy. I mean, lucky him. He's like, I don't even have to swindle myself upstairs.

She's got the gift. Of course he's going to say, yeah, I'll go up and get it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we get up to my hotel room and I show him the gift and I could tell that he really likes it. And I could tell that he was kind of acting a little bit nervous. And I think he kind of like knew like what was it going to happen. But what was the gift by the way? I just want to know. I ended up buying him like a coffee mug. But I put his name on. it, I put his name on it and like the YouTube channel name.

It was like a custom made coffee cup with like his name on it and like his YouTube channel name. Oh, that's nice. Very thoughtful of you. So, okay, so he gets that and now he's feeling like a bit nervous because you guys are going to maybe fool around. I don't know. Yeah.

I'm surprised he's nervous. I mean, he sounds like a professional. I wonder how many other girls that he's hit up that email him with all those subscribers. This has that probably happened to him many times. I don't know. Okay. So I ended up giving him a hug, thanking him for the lovely time that we had. And what happened was that I ended up giving him a kiss, but it was kind of like, it was just like a little peck, peck on the lips was telling him, thank you. And the next thing I know is he's kissing me and he's like touching me everywhere

and I was like oh boy oh boy oh boy oh my god how old are you at this point how long ago is this like two years ago right I mean you're yeah it was two years ago so I was like I was like 26 yeah yeah oh my god hilarious okay so now he's like now he's your guys are fooling around so yeah I mean we're like fooling around

And I remember thinking to myself, you know what, I'm not attracted to older men, but I'm just going to maybe give it a chance. I don't know. But it was like happening so fast that, I mean, I just didn't really have to really think about much. Yeah, I totally understand. Yeah, I mean, we ended up having sex to cover and we were completely unprepared for it. But, I mean, nothing bad happened. But I mean, we had fun. I mean, it was a good time.

Was he good and bad? Yeah. I mean, I thought he was really good. I would think so, too. I mean, this was not, you know, some guy that didn't have experience. I mean, now that I know, I'm just saying that now that I know that he has a girl email him that listens to his show. and then he like gets in a little conversation and then starts something up.

I mean I just and he is because I know he has millions of followers. You just know that this guy's experienced. He has to be. So there's no way he's not going to be good and bad. He fucks a lot of girls. Yeah. So wait.

So then what happened? Do you wind up like dating him? I mean, what happens to you and this guy? So right after that happens, we both agreed about. that we just want to be friends and that we can see each other every once in a while and that we can have sex together, but we just, he just doesn't, he didn't want a commitment. He just wanted to be like friends with benefits.

And I'm like, okay, I get it. I mean, I get it. I get it. I'm young. I get it. Right. Right. But did he, I mean, when did that conversation happen?

And like right after you had sex or like did he email you the day after? It happened a few days. Like it happened two days after I got home. We ended up talking about it because I was really confused. Like I didn't know like what he wanted from me. Right. So I kind of just wanted to confront him about it. But after we had sex, I mean, he didn't say anything really.

You know, he just said to me, you know, the next time. you're in the area, I mean, just give me a call. You know, that's what you said to me. Just give me a call the next time you're here. I'm like, okay. Oh, my God, what a fucking piece of work. Okay. And so then you get home and you're like, wait a second, what the fuck did happen?

And so you email him and do you get on the phone and have the conversation or was it all done via email? No, I ended up texting him. You know, I told him that, yeah, I mean, I thought we had a really great time together, but I just wanted to be clear on one thing. Are you seeing other people? Like, do you, like, are we friends? I mean, do you want something more? And he told me, you know, but I'm just not really looking to be in a relationship right now,

but I would love to be your friend and see you every once in a while. And so did you wind up seeing him a bunch of times? I mean, I don't even know what does this last? longer than this little rendezvous? We did end up seeing each other a few more times after that. He's really busy with what he does and I was a full-time student at the time. So it was really hard for me to find time to fly out and see him. Yeah.

So we did see each other like a few more times after that. Interesting. You know it would be really interesting, Victoria, if like you emailed him back from the original email of the girl that wanted to. tell him her, you know, human trafficking story and to be on the show and reschedule, you know, because it got canceled so long ago and then just show up as you, the same girl that he fucked too. And see, and then maybe turn the camera on him and interview him.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It would be such an interesting. It would be so interesting. I mean, yeah. I mean, it would be. But I did ask him, you know, I said to him, like, have you met a lot of your viewers, your subscribers? And he told me that he's made friends with a lot of people that watch his channel.

So I really don't know if, if, like, I'm the only one or if there's, like, more girls out there. I mean, I really, I really don't know. I really don't know. No, there's probably more. And I guess that's just the difference between men and women. Like, I think, like, if I was telling my guy friends, like, can you believe, like, this girl told me the story this like big YouTuber he's like fucking it's like his fans those hot fans they'd be like I'd do the same shit you know but and here I am saying like oh I get hit up all the time and I just

would I just never cross any lines you know I don't get I don't even become friends with people that are listeners of my show you know there's just like a to me it's like a boundary but maybe that's because I'm a woman and a female and a man it's different you know I don't know so I mean can you expect a guy that has millions of followers and is getting hit up all the time by attractive women, young women, for him to never cross that line and get involved, like, especially a guy like him, you know, he loves good conversations. He's obviously interested in people. He's interviewing people for a living. So that's what he does. He probably does wind up meeting interesting people all the time that are his listeners and he just wants to go there. So why not? I mean, maybe I'm

wrong to be like that's so unprofessional. But to me, I would never cross that line. So I'm just like, oh my God, it's interesting now that I know. I mean, I wish we could out of him. So other people could be like, hey, you know, you could go bang him. But I guess that's like what people mean by like, oh, sliding into people's DMs. And I guess a lot of celebrities probably nowadays do wind up hooking up with their fans because there, I guess maybe that boundary is like less, there's less of that line and it's so blurred now because there is this kind of connection and you can connect and have access to people and stuff. I don't know. It's interesting. I mean, did you, let me ask you this. Were you okay with the fact that he was like, no, I just want to be friends? I mean, was that fine with

you? Yeah, that was fine with me because like I knew that he was older than me and I knew that nothing could really come out of our, nothing more could come out of it. And so I knew that, you know, he's getting older and, you know, I'm not, I'm not really into older men, but I really like him as a person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I like what we're doing together. So I felt comfortable with that, but I didn't want anything more from him. Right. And he was always treated you nicely and he was totally cool. I mean, you got to give him credit. At least he copped to the fact of exactly what he was looking for straight up when you confronted him. You did see him multiple times afterwards. You did say he was always like super nice to you. So these other times that you went and saw him, you had sex and

everything was like really good. Yeah. I mean, every time we saw it over, we had, we had a great time together. It was very magical and I just felt very happy. I enjoyed seeing him. I mean, he was literally my best friend and I loved our relationship that we had. Oh, wow. And so do you still keep in touch with him? He and I do not, well, I ended up talking to him like a couple of weeks ago, but we don't really talk as often as we used to. I ended up making the choice to end my relationship with him. The reason I did that was because I just wasn't really happy in our connection anymore. And I kind of just felt like it just had to end.

Like we reached a point where we should just see other people. Was it that you weren't seeing other people because you were so enthralled by him and you felt like you needed to cut that off so that you could be available? At the time, I kind of realized that maybe I do want to be in a committed relationship with somebody. And I kind of felt like, well, maybe he, you know, he should be in a committed relationship with somebody. I felt like maybe I was holding him back in some way. Uh-huh. And so that is why I decided to end our relationship because I wanted to just see other people, maybe being a committed relationship.

And I kind of just felt that I felt like I was holding him back in some way. So maybe it was also holding you back for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now I know that there is a male companion that you pay money to.

What the fuck is that? Okay. So back in March, I ended up finding this guy on Instagram. And I mean, he was posting a lot of like interesting content. I could tell he was like a very adventurous guy, love to travel. And I saw that he had a website. And on that website, you can actually pay money, like visit him and have him do tours with you. I mean, some people pay him money to like go on vacation.

And he's not like an escort. An escort. I mean, he says he's not an escort, but he says he's more like a male companion. But I'm like, I don't know, maybe it's the same thing. No, maybe. I mean, that's, I think, a way to get around from it being illegal. But basically, you travel with him and you do have sex with him and you do pay him. So, yes, that's pretty much.

Yeah. I guess you can see that. Yeah. Sorry, I just cut to the chase. I mean, but we. You got a very interesting life story and you're so young. You're so many more. You're going to have like 18 more stories of the next 10 years.

Wait a second. So this guy, so did you just slide into his DMs and say, hey, I want to hire you. I mean, is it obvious on his Instagram that that's what he's in business for? No. I mean, you would have like no idea. I mean, on his Instagram, he kind of, I don't know. He likes to pose pictures of him like being outdoors. and like having fun.

I mean, you would have no idea. Give me that Instagram account. I'll edit it out. Sorry, folks. I'm getting all the interesting information, but I'm not going to give it to anyone else. But give me the information. I just need to look him up while we're talking.

Okay. Wait, he's got a blue check mark. Listen, at least you don't, you know, listen, when I was younger and did fucked up things, just like fucking random guys, I was like bottom of the barrel. You at least get all these huge stars. You know, at least the people you're picking,

you're very, they're like influencers. I mean, your YouTuber guy's no fucking joke. And guy on Instagram has got a blue check. He's got a lot of followers. Wait a second. So this guy, okay, so he's just on there posing as this guy doing his thing. And now how do you wind up hooking up with him? Like tell me what was the rap?

Well, so I ended up going on the website and I ended up booking. like a tour. It was like a half a day tour. So I ended up flying out there to go see him. Oh my God. This is this. I'm on his website. Okay, this is the best shit I've ever seen in my life. Okay, go on. I'm dying to out these people, but I won't. Anyway, go on. So like I ended up just flying out there to like go see him and have a good time. But like I never, you know, expected like anything like more to like happen but I mean I mean all of these all of this crazy stuff just happened I mean I couldn't believe it but I mean I had a good time I mean I thought it was fun but you go on this tour you you don't have any idea that you're going to be having sex with this

guy because what he's pitching this tour to be is like some sort of like spiritual retreat okay that's what's so fucking funny to me. I could say that because no one's going to know. But, I mean, it really is like go on a spiritual guided tour. How do you wind up in bed on that tour? Can you tell me? So when I met him, I could, I mean, I could tell that like he was like attracted to me. And so we ended up just having, you know, an into like a fun day together.

And then we ended up going back to like my hotel room. And that's kind of just like how it all happened. Listen, he's a good-looking guy too. Yeah, he is good-looking. You have to send me in some anonymous picks because people need to see what you kind of look like that all these guys, what these guys wind up hooking up with. But wait a second. So you show up. How much do you pay for a guided spiritual tour with this guy?

About 1,200. Oh, I hope he fucked you for the whole week. I mean, how long is the tour for 1,200 bucks? It's a lot of money. actually for one day Oh my God I'm sorry Oh my God

$1,200 This dude is charging For a tour And then he fucks you at the end of it Okay but let me just ask you this What happened before So you go to his He comes to your hotel

Oh my God What does he promise you for $1,200 though ahead of time? At this point you don't know That you're going to wind up having sex with him the first time Like, what are you really paying for for $1,200? Where are you going? So we're doing a tour, like, around the city that he lives in. And you can go hiking. You can go to, like, so, like, I wanted to go hiking.

You know, you can, like, go swimming, do all those things together. But I'm somebody that was, like, interested in just, like, having, like, a tour, like, around the whole city and, like, seeing all of, like, fun places. So that's pretty much, like, what we did. And now was a part of the reason why. wanted to go is because he's like a hawkeye. Yeah, I mean, I thought he was good looking and I thought he was interesting and I'm like, okay, you know, I wouldn't mind meeting him. Yeah, and you just got to pay the price. So you, now are you at least in a nice hotel? Does that some of that $1,200 get you like in a nice hotel or do you have to pay for the hotel on top of that? I have to pay for the hotel on top of that.

Yeah. Okay, so how was your tour? I mean, it was amazing. I mean, it was fun. I mean, I love tours. I am somebody that loves tours. So it was incredible. Yeah, this is like the second guy taking you on tours. The first guy took you on that tour, like you said, for five hours.

Like, I get it. So this guy takes you on a real tour of where he lives. And then did you have sex? I guess you do because it's only a one day tour. Yeah. Yep. And was the sex good? I mean, was he worth 1,200 bucks?

Well, let's take out 500 for the tour. And let's say the rest is for the sex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you could tell by his picks. I mean, this is not, you know, this is like a fucking player. I mean, so the sex was good. And so do you have any kind of conversation with him afterwards about it?

Or how do you wind up doing it more? Because I know that you do. Actually, no. I actually don't. get to talk to him like at all after we see each other. It's like you have to like a book again. So he chooses to not have contact with people. Oh my God. This guy, I'm sorry, but any guy listening, this guy should teach courses on this shit. Okay. He has got this shit down. This is the the most interesting racket I have ever heard of. If any producers that work in TV,

are listening to this email me i'll tell you who this guy is and you go do a fucking show on him because this guy is interesting what he is doing and how he has it set up so he has this situation set up where you pay all this money and he fucks you and he gives you a good time and he probably does this to women all the time like you know he and but you're not allowed i mean there's rules like you were not allowed to talk to him afterwards the only way you get to see him email him like like you have to book again for 1200 or is that do you get it? cheaper the second time. It depends on what you book with him and for like how many days. The prices vary. It varies for like what you want. But what was the next time? What did you pay for

the next time? It was the same thing because all I could pretty much before is like the same thing. You know, 1,200. That's the cheapest he's got. Yeah. I think you. So you've gone back for the tour and the sex. Wow. People are so fun. fucking fascinating to me. Listen, no matter how, I saw a friend of mine recently said to me like, oh, Kathy, do you ever think like you'll just run out of stories? Like you just, I'm like, never, like never, because it doesn't matter if I think I've heard it all. Here comes Victoria with, you have the three stories. I mean, the two with the YouTuber and the Instagram were kind of similar but not, you know, but they're fascinating. Both those stories and the human trafficking, oh my God,

I just really hope you are in hardcore therapy. I know that you did say in your last email, like one of the last things you said was like, I really want to become a cam girl. I mean, what the fuck is that about? Okay, so like four months ago, I got into modeling. And so I do modeling for like a YouTube channel,

but at the time, to me it looked like a fitness channel, like a fitness YouTube channel. But what it is, it's actually kind of, like a low, it's a low key porn YouTube channel. You wouldn't even know unless somebody pointed it out. Oh my fucking God. Give me that channel too. I want to look it up.

I'll take the name out. Give me wait. I need to look this one up too. People are going to be so jealous that they're not me right now because they're going to be listening and wishing they had the information. I'm looking, but I'll give everyone my reaction. What's the name of the channel? Okay.

Okay. He has two YouTube channels. 2.5 million subscribers. Yes, yep. Oh, okay. So you do this and then it turns out, oh my God, this is like always the bait and switch for you. Like this is like a little bit of like your story. It's interesting. Yeah. So, so you wind up getting yourself involved because you think you're going to be a model, but now it turns out that you're kind of doing soft core porn and you're okay with it? I mean, I'm okay with it because I'm not really. You know, I'm not really like showing off my body and it's like low key porn so nobody like really knows what it is. Yeah. But you know what? I love the modeling and I love my body and I kind of just think, well, maybe I should get into cam modeling because I just love showing off my body.

I don't think you should do camming. If you're going to do anything, maybe we do in Onlyfans if you really like pictures because that's where you could put stuff like that up. I do suggest though because of your history and what happened to you earlier. And I think it's great that you're still in therapy. And I do suggest that you keep at that and really work on that kind of PTSD. You know, like you said, you had the PTSD that was coming up. Like that stuff, you just can't sweep it under the table. It was put on you when you're younger besides the stuff from your home life.

So you have a lot of stuff there that you always want to be tending to and working on and trying to work through while you're doing all this quote unquote fun stuff. there's a lot of stuff and you just don't want it to ever go dark and sometimes when you have a fucked up childhood sometimes you could act out in ways and do things and things can become dark without you realizing it because of that do you know what I'm saying like that's what you just want to make sure you don't wind up prostituting yourself and not that that's wrong I have plenty of girls that are on my show that do that but you want to be doing it for the right reason and somebody like you you don't want it to ever go to a place where you're being taken advantage of like when you're

past and that could happen because of your history. So make sure to keep in therapy and keep talking about everything that you're doing and go slowly into that world of SEX because like I said, with the stuff that has happened to you, you don't want to cross lines and do things where you're re-injuring yourself and bringing things up. That's not to say that you you shouldn't be experiencing all these things and having all the fun that you want. Like I think that that's great. Just make sure you're always in control of it. That's all I'm trying to say. Because that's where you need to be. And that's what's most important because you didn't have control in your life in so many times. So you don't ever want to lose that. So that's why I say like, do your own, don't, you know, do your only fans, control it yourself,

work with it, but stay in therapy and really talk through your stuff so that you don't wind up doing things that maybe one day you would regret or you'd be like, oh, fuck, like I didn't want to do this, but you just get sucked into it because that could happen. And like I said, there's plenty of women that do that stuff and it's all good. When I have women like that on my show all the time and I love that. I love to show that. But I acted out sexually plenty in my life because of stuff that was put on me. And I understand that. And when I look back, I understand. I know what I was doing and why I was doing it.

It was like, because I was like fucked up. So just make sure you don't go down that path. I think you've been, but I mean, I don't think like the thing that you're doing with the guy with the $1,200 or the tours and the SCX you had with your YouTuber. I don't think there's anything wrong with that stuff. Like I love those stories. I think that they're great. Like you're getting something out of it.

You know, you're happy. None of those people are really breaking your heart. I mean, you're fine with it. You're having good sex. Now that I know all these people and the players, I need like anonymous picks. Could you send me a couple for my Patreon? Yeah, absolutely.

So we could sort of get a vision of you. I need to see this is like how you're getting sliding in and getting all this action. It's just, oh my God, I could have talked to you for another hour. We went pretty long, but I don't really care because this was like great. I loved your stories. they were super interesting and I feel like, you know,

keep me updated. Yeah, I will. Absolutely. I will. Because I have a feeling there's going to be more stuff because it seems like there's like a pattern and you gave me so many,

so many great ones. Thanks so much, Victoria, for calling in. Your episode will be up very soon. Send me those picks. Email me them, okay? I will. Thank you so much, Kathy. Thank you.

You were the best. This was so much fun. Oh, thank you. Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to follow the show, follow me at Strict Anonymous on Instagram or Twitter. That's at Strict Anonymous. If you are on YouTube, make sure to subscribe.

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