Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 549 - Scott is a Cuck who Lost his Hotwife to a Bull

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Scott is a true cuck who lost his hotwife to a bull and he called in to talk al about it. When did he realize he was into being cuckolded? When did him and his wife open up their relationship? And why did his wife wind up leaving him for a bull? Tune in for all the details which include how he found out his wife had a one night fling and how that led to him being a cuck, where they went to find the first bull and what went down, how he felt the first time his wife was with another guy, how and why he stayed out of the hook ups at first and then why he started watching, how he became the clean up guy, how she eventually started seeing bulls as well as random guys she met while out, the bull who turned them on to her denying him sex and how long her went without having sex with his wife, what he got out of being denied, the last bull she met up with and what was different about her “relationship” with him, the vacation they all took together and what he saw that made him realize there was trouble, how he asked her to stop seeing him and why she said no, how she eventually left him for the bull, how he felt about the betrayal and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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listen to, you know, you got a lot of like really great cuck stories and successful stories, but I really wanted to come on and tell my story, you know, and it's not a good story. I don't think he, he didn't phrase it that way. But I was like,

fuck yeah. I mean, I do know that. But I get a lot of really successful stories about cucks and hot wives and everything's so great. But of course there's another side to it. I think most people would assume that normally it's never great. Like how do I find all these couples that everything is really great? I haven't had on a lot of cuck hot wife scenario gone wrong stories. But we all know they're out there and here is one.

And it's such an interesting one because he was like a true cock. He had that figured out he was a true cuck, kind of in the midst of things. And he went pretty far in his cuckledness or his cucking like as a cuck. I mean, he became like the truest cuck I've ever heard from. And eventually things went bad. And he explains the whole story. him and his wife were a cuck and a hot wife for like a good seven years. They were together many years before.

He did find out she had cheated on him a one-night thing, and that is what set them off into the cuck lifestyle. That's a whole interesting story. And then what's really fascinating is the progression of how they started meeting people. Well, how they decided to open up their marriage, how they started meeting people, why they decided the cock and hot wife thing was going to be right, how she started meeting guys, what his role was in those scenarios, because it did evolve and it changed over time.

And there was a couple changes that happened that I think led to their demise. We talk about that. And eventually there was a demise. Things went wrong at the end. I mean, he is not with his wife anymore. when you listen to the story like I did, you're probably going to start seeing things. And even he says like hindsight's 2020, you know, when you start hearing the story at a certain part, you're going to start to be like, oh, you know, this is probably what said it down the wrong

path. And I do think it's a cautionary tale. And it's one that people will learn from if you're going to get into this kind of lifestyle. You're going to be like, oh, maybe I won't do that because look what happened to Scott because he did that. And I feel like, you know, he was very brave to come on and tell his story. he's not that far past what happened to him. It's only been not even two years that he's out of it.

It was a pretty difficult situation. I feel for him what he went through. He's still unpacking that, and we talk about all of it. It's a great story. It's super interesting. It spans over, like I said, a seven-year time, and you're going to hear all about it. So I'm going to be right back on with Scott.

Hi, Scott, Scott, right? Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today, Scott? Good, Kathy. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. No way, I'm glad to have you on because, you know, you wrote in, I've had a lot of cock, hot wife, stag episodes lately. People laughing love them. And I tend to find a lot of, or I tend to attract a lot of couples who are doing that kind of thing. And everything's like Rosie, you know, great. People are very successful at it. and you wrote it and you're like, I want to talk about, you know, how it could go wrong because it did go very wrong for you. And of course, there's so many people out there that probably have that story. And because I'm an effing realist, I say it all the time and I really am, I like to show all sides of things. And I think it is important for people to hear and know that, you know, sometimes opening it up or these kinds of situations could really be bad too. So why don't you tell your story, Scott? Sure, yes, and everything exactly right. And you always have amazing guests. And I'm always, you know, in my story, I was like, there's got to be more people out there.

I kind of always feel like I was, you know, I'm always asking myself, like, what went wrong? All these people are having so much success. So I don't know if you want me to start from the beginning, like how I met my work. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And listen, I think that most people would think that your story is the way. way that it goes. What I love about having so many positive couples on my show is because I think it's more rare that people believe that it actually could exist and be okay and people can be successful. So I think

in a weird way, the fact that I have more couples that are successful on is great because I think I'm fighting a battle of most people thinking it could never be. But of course, it doesn't work out. I just always hear from the successful couples for some reason, but I'm telling you what happens is when I have like any kind of topic on whether it's, you know, a specific fetish or like a cuck like you that's going to tell a story gone, you know, a cuck story gone wrong. All of a sudden I'm going to get 100 emails from guys that have your same story. That's what's going to happen. But anyway, you're going to be one of, I mean, I feel like I've had some on in the past,

but you're going to be one of the first, you know, of many successful ones of do your things. Start at the beginning, yeah. Yeah, so I met my, well, now I x-wife, but I met my wife. We were together for 17 years, married for 15, a little bit of background. She was a young single mother. She had a child in high school. So she kind of missed those wild times you have, you know, through the college, early 20s. So, you know, she was.

kind of more reserved. I definitely was more experienced, I think, just in like things of a sexual nature and past relationships. She didn't really have a lot of background. So we got together and things were good and just having like your normal everyday life together, raising her, her child and together and things of that nature. And I feel like she just got to a point where, you know, which when we discussed it further, where she just feel like she missed out. And she was feeling a little, as you probably can relate with talking to other women.

She felt a little bored. And I had a health scare and kind of took me out of commission for a good year to two to rehab. And just was never back to like what I always felt like I was in the prior. And I found out during that time she was kind of being a little distant and this and that. And just through some probing questions, she finally came out. And she had a one-night stand. She had a one-night stand when she went away with her girlfriends. And, you know, so my first reaction is probably like what you hear a lot from people is, you know, I was mad.

I was upset and, you know, we were doing the whole, like, back and forth and just not in a good space. And then I didn't really know much about cuck holding, to be honest with you, back then. And it just got to the point where I just had, like, a weird, where, like, I went from anger to, like, when I would think about it, it kind of, you know, turned me on a little bit. And I approached that with her, and her first reaction was, like, you know, why would, why would, why would, why would, that happened to you. And we just kind of talked about it. And I kind of approached originally, like, would you be up to maybe, should we bring another couple in?

And would you, you know, because I feel like she felt like she didn't have like any experience besides me at that point, you know. And she was very upfront and said, honestly, I don't think it'll work because I feel like I would get jealous of me being with someone else. So I kind of let it just sit and didn't really think of anything. And she has a friend who's pretty out there, like just real sexual, bisexual. She goes to like these big parties, whatever. And I guess when they talked about it, she said, well, why don't you approach him if you don't want to share, like bring up as a cuckold relationship.

And we really didn't know much. I think we do the stereotypical things that you know. Let me ask you a question. That friend that she asked, that friend that's, you know, out there and really in the lifestyle and all that stuff. Was that the friend that she was away with when she cheated on you? Yeah, well, there was a group of them, but that was the one, she was the only one that knew that that happened because they shared a room. Yeah. So you'd probably see where that was going.

Yeah. So we, like, to us, like, I mean, we didn't know much about it. So, and this is going back, you know, some years when this happened. And the internet wasn't what's out there now, like with your podcast and other things like, it just really wasn't a lot of great stuff to look into. So. Yeah, listen. I mean, even, I've been doing my show for seven years and I have to tell you that I didn't have a lot of couples and people calling in to talk about this specific scenario in the beginning

even. You know, even seven years ago, I hadn't heard of it and I was doing my show. I mean, I've learned about a lot of things through doing my show that I didn't know existed. But it wasn't like even seven years ago. I feel like it was so common. Maybe it was, you know, in that small community. But I think more people know about it now. Exactly.

And like I said, we just didn't know much about it. And what we did know, I look back at that now. I was like, God, that's so outdated. It was just, you know, just bad stereotypes. But we did find some things to look. Actually, I felt like more what helped was. was there was like some research books by like, I guess like sex therapist more people. And it took out like that porn aspect of it.

Yeah. And it just kind of gave more to like a relationship wise. She liked that part of it as opposed to me and like there. There's some of the other stuff out there. She's like, I'm just not going to walk into some club and, you know, start having sex with 20 guys. And in that way. And then, you know, it sounded fun. But I also had some hesitation.

Like, you know, I was, I'm like, I'm going to share my wife, but then I don't have a partner. Like, how am I going to react? It's all a lot in your head. So we just, after a lot of talk, we just said, well, let's try it out and see what we can, and see how it goes. And we went on some, like, this is going back in like those old. Yeah, but wait, I'm going to stop you there and everyone's going to be mad at me, but I'm going to remember exactly where we are, okay.

What I need first a little bit because, you know, we're going to and we're going to pick up right where you start to go into the cuck world and have some experiences. I mean, here you were this guy that was married. You had this health scare, a setback. And then you found out after that that your wife had had an affair.

I mean, well, not an affair. One night stand, but she cheated on you, right? I mean, how, like, how did you work through that? I mean, was there ever a point because she had cheated that you thought of leaving her or anything like that? I mean, how did you resolve that part of it? I never didn't think that I was going to leave her. But I was, like I said, I mean, my initial reaction, I mean, I was angry.

I was upset, you know, I basically was like, you know, you kind of betrayed me. Like, you know, here I am. I had this incident with me that, you know, put me out. And then here you are, you sleep with somebody else. and it just, it was a lot of tension, um, between us. And, you know, she was doing the, I'm sorry and I'm apologizing, but I didn't really think I would ever, was ever going to leave her. Um, but it just, it was a rocky couple months because we just like, what I think happened was the cheating led into every small argument blew into a bigger one, you know, and I mean like things that.

There was this other stuff going. Well, there was that deeper issue between you guys that was there. So you were using these other things to fight with her. And she was resenting me being like, you're holding this over me. Like, every, you know, my, how long are you going to bring this up? And it's always going to be my fault because of this. And so we kind of just, I stopped bringing it up. And I think, like, once I stopped talking about it, it's somehow just, I don't know why it would, like, enter my mind when I'd be alone thinking of her in that way. And I was like, why was I so pissed all?

And then now I'm like kind of sort of like feeling some type of an excitement out of it. It just I didn't understand it. You know, and I mean, I thought it was very weird. And I think once I started feeling like that, I kind of let it go and like accepted that it happened. And just we were able to move on in a better space after that. I think a lot of people maybe that our cucks are no more about the cuck scenario might be like, yeah, Kathy, why would you even ask that question? I mean, that's maybe the part of you that was like, we're not going anywhere.

Because a lot of times, listen, you know, someone cheats on someone, whether it's a man or a woman. And a lot of times that's a big, fat deal breaker. I don't know if you have a lot of kids or something. You know, sometimes when kids are involved, people tend to stay more. But, you know, maybe because you had this inner cuck, like that was the reason why you didn't do that. Like maybe it's like, duh, because he's a cuck. And on some level, you know, he was down with it. I don't know.

You know, maybe that's a part of it. No, I think it's a great point. And I feel like one of the, which is funny, you bring that point up because one of the guys that we ended up having an experience with who was really involved in that world, he mentioned that was we talked about how we started out, whatever. And he said, I think you've always had it in you. Yeah. Sheating brought it out of you. Yes. Really? I really do. I think, you know, subconsciously even when you didn't realize it, because most people, the first place they would go to is I'm fucking leaving you. Not to say that people can't work through that, but you never even went there and I would say it was the little cuck part of you that was like, we're not going anywhere. Like this is our fucking opportunity.

It was almost like I just needed something to bring it out and then we could, you know, so that, yeah, it's a great point. And when he had said that to me, I said that kind of maybe makes sense. It just unlocked like what was always there. I just didn't know it at the time. Yeah, because you were able to work through it. So now you're at the point where you guys. And like what was her thing though? Can I just ask you a quick question about her?

Because I know that eventually things go wrong in this situation later down the line. And I just want to get a little background on her. When she did get caught or she admitted to you that she cheated on you, Did she say, oh, it was because you weren't paying attention to me or I wasn't get, you know, what was her reasoning or that she gave you? She just said, I think she's like, you know, I've been spending my whole life, like, being a young mother, raising a kid. And then we got married. And she's like, I just feel like I missed out on like even just like having those experimenting years. And she's like, I just got, I just got bored.

And she's like, I just got, I just felt like I wasn't fulfilled. She's like, it wasn't anything you were doing in particular. But I'm like, did I miss out on what's out there? And she's like, and then that, you know, it sounds cliche, whatever. But when my recovery, she's like, I just felt like, you know, we lost our attraction or attention to each other. And she's like, I just was. And she's like, not an excuse, but, you know, some guy paid attention to me, told me things I hadn't heard in a while. she's like it you know mixed in with again not an excuse with alcohol she's like I just felt there was

something alive in me for the first time and forever and she was like I felt guilty but not in that moment yeah I feel like you know that's pretty honest and I you know real life I mean none of it like you said none of it is an excuse none of it makes it right but that's a you know a big reason and why a lot of people cheat because they wind up in those scenarios. And I think that people find it hard to believe that kind of stuff. But it's very, it happens, especially with the people who get married and have kids very young.

Right. No, I agree with it. Like I said, I mean, we both said it wasn't excused, but it was more like I kind of understood it later. You know what I mean? I'm like, I get it. Not that I was accepting of it at the time. No, but you understood it.

And, you know, listen, she wasn't. really said it wasn't about you it was about her it was she you know it was very uh to me honest you know and the alcohol and all of it i mean people like oh it's not an excuse yeah it's not an excuse but this is the shit that happens right it's like you just mix everything in oh my god yeah the alcohol takes it over the edge right yeah and then she had that friend with her that friend's like there's no way that friend was saying hey don't think twice you're drunk don't do it. You know, that friend was probably egging her on. Yeah, she,

uh, yeah, she definitely out, like I said, I mean, it was the perfect moment because her, her friend just doesn't see, like she, she's that person as like, how can you be with one partner? You know, she's very, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. She's not monogamous, doesn't believe in it. So she's like, oh, fucking live life. Yeah. All right. So now, yeah, okay, so now we got the full backstory like I want.

So now you are looking on apps and you guys decide not to look for couples because you got into the you figured out that the cucking thing was probably the right way to go yeah she just was like i just don't think i'm like she goes i know this sounds she's like i feel like i'm a selfish bitch but she was like i just don't really want to see you with somebody else and i just don't think that that would that would work for me and then when her friend brought up and we looked at and i was like well we can try that and so that's you know we went that we went that route and I can be honest the beginning of it I don't think it was as out there as it is now like it was a struggle at first like finding you know you sort through all these guys and or people that say like we had like scheduled meetups and couple guys didn't even show up and yeah we're like this is hard and you know on top of that the first time we did find a guy it wasn't a great experience for her because, one, he was way better on the phone and, like, talking than he was in person.

And I think he kind of fibbed about how much in the lifestyle he was. And her first encounter just wasn't great. He, you know, he was having a hard time. And she was, like, ready to give up almost. And she was like, you know, this isn't even worth it. And we got lucky. We were about to. and then her friend knew a guy.

They were out somewhere and she was like, would you want to give it a try? And it was, then that changed everything. Yeah, but that first guy that wasn't so great, did you guys hook up with him? Did she hook up with him?

Yeah, she did. It was after we had two guys not show up. He showed up. We had conversations with him. He told her he was like really involved in this. And so we felt comfortable. But he got,

when we got there, we always, we were starting off meeting at, like, because we didn't want to do it at our house or, you know, her being someone's house. We did, like, let's meet up at a hotel lobby, have a couple drinks or something. Then we had a room reserve. And when he showed up, he just didn't sound, seem like he had portrayed himself. And she said when I waited and she came back down for us to go home and she said, that was awful. like he really couldn't perform and it took a while she's like is it me and she's like and then when we did it just we were very awkward we weren't in sync together so just so you were waiting downside but so how though were you feeling you're like you're you know you're a cuck for the first time now this is all set up your wife is up there fucking another guy you don't know that it's gone wrong you know but i mean is it like supercharging

Are you nervous? Do you still not know how you're going to feel? I mean, how are you feeling that first time in that lobby while you were waiting for her? So leading up to meeting him, when we knew that he was actually going to show, I was super excited. I had all this, like, excitement with me.

I got to be honest, when they left the lobby bar and I saw them go in the elevator, I didn't, I lost that excitement. I went to, this is really happening. I think like, it's at the reality.

check when it's really about to go, go down. And I had a lot of angst. I was like, you know, how will this happen? You know, I'm losing that excitement. And then I did. I was thinking of things that just, I was probably a lot of nerves and jittery, you know what I mean? So, um, but then I was like thinking she was going to come back and be like, this is the best thing ever. And we're driving home. And she's like, well, that kind of sucked. Right. And. And, And I was like, oh, no. I'm like, so we went all this way, all this talking. And I mean, from the time we said we were going to do it, so we actually, she got with

that guy, a lot of time had passed. You know what I mean? We just didn't jump right in. So we're like all that work for nothing. Yeah. But such a difference when the guy that her friend set her up with was just a totally different experience for her. Like it just was that's what we were looking for and not in a way of like what we ended up doing later down the road, but the sex was good for her.

And that's what I think needed to happen. And I think because her friend knew the guy, she felt safe. If that makes sense, you know, like it wasn't some total stranger. And she just, she came back and we talked all night and went over everything. and she just had like there was an excitement about her and she was just saying she was like that was that was just great i just had great sex i just you know that and then the fact that i'm coming home to you she's like i can't believe this is really like something that's really can happen so um that first that experience changed everything so once we knew it could work she got more into it because i feel like in the beginning it was more me like i was finding the guys

I was giving her things to read for research or, hey, but after she had the great experience, she kind of took more control. Right. You know, like more like, okay, now we can do this. This can work. Like, let's get into this more. Right. And now she's going to, because she's going to be sleeping with the guy.

So maybe it's better that she's going to be in control anyway, right? Yes. And like said, she, like it felt good. And she was like, you know, that was probably the first time she's had sex with somebody where it just was pure, just good, great sex with no strings attached or there was no nothing involved. And it just totally unblocked everything in her mind. Interesting.

That's interesting from a woman's perspective. I feel like, I mean, I was always a woman that fucked a lot of guys that I didn't really like. So I always knew that kind of sex. But a lot of women don't and have never experienced. experience that. So it, you know, that's interesting that she, uh, had that and saw it that way because I feel like a lot of women have never had that. And she had said to, which, um, I thought was interesting. She had said, I, the fact that I was good with it afterwards and I was like

supportive and excited, she said if I was, you know, just not into it, she's like, it probably would have turned her off. And she's like, we probably would have not. and further. She goes, I needed your, needed your support for me to want to keep going. She's like, I just couldn't do it if it was going to be an issue. Yeah, that's interesting too. I didn't want to go back to that cheating our phase back then,

where we were back and forth with each other. Right. But the fact that you were okay with it, and then this is also something that she was kind of opening up in herself, it was kind of perfect for her. you know. Yes, exactly. Yeah.

So that just kind of led into, you know, and it was more before we really found people, like, down the road. It was more, you know, she saw that guy another couple times. And then he kind of knew what our deal was. And he was like, well, I have a friend I can introduce you to. He doesn't want any strings attached. And, you know, so kind of went from knowing somebody. That's how we got further. And then that guy kind of told us to go on FetLife.

And, you know, after you sort through the, I mean, I'm sure you've been on that site. I've heard you mention it, I think, on prior guests. You know, I never have. But I know that I know ever, so many people on there and I've heard of it a million times. They never went on it, though. So like there were some other, like we were still looking on the internet, like on these different, they were, you know, these like websites would be like, oh, this is for cuff. old hookups, but it was mostly just a bunch of guys. Just, you know, wanting you to tell them, like, show you pictures or, or, you know, they

would say that they were, and you could tell that they were photoshopping or they were stealing someone's picture to present themselves. But we sorted out, we met this guy on FetLife, and he was just kind of like in that lifestyle. And he was great. He was probably the person that escalated us to where we were because we were new at it and he was experienced. So he kind of told us, you know, how things can be. You know, he kind of gave us also like some places. He's like, you're looking for guys.

Here's, you know, some, he even gave us some people or like go to this, go to this website. But, you know, go to this section. There's real guys there that I know. And it's just that's where it really took off because it just got to the point where she was just going crazy. And it's because he was a, we weren't, it was, we pretty much took away the meeting all the fake people. You know, and I mean like every time we were meeting someone now, it was what she was wanting. So that guy that we had met really turned everything around. Yeah, he was a great resource.

He put you in the right direction where you guys needed to go. Because before that, I think it is very hard. A lot of times people write me like, hey, Kathy, where do I go? We're a couple. I'm like, I don't fucking know. It's hard, you know. I mean, I think that it is hard for people to navigate when they're newbies like you and most people find their way eventually.

But it's time consuming because, like you said, this place is fake people. This one is not really the right thing. You know, you really need someone that's a professional to who's been there, done that has got it down to be like. like, no, this is where you go. So could I just ask you a quick question because you're having all these experiences, like do you, are you into reclaiming sex at all people talk about? Like, did you get past those jitters?

And now it was just like a turn on when she came home. Or did you ever decide that you were going to watch? I mean, what was going down on your end? So the first couple guys were strictly, I was not to be involved or to be around. So she would come home and it was in the beginning, like she would shower right away and then we would stay up and like we would do foreplay with each other. And there would be sometimes we would have sex. But I would probably say the first two years, that was the case. And then by the third year, she met a guy and he was really into like, if you're going to do this, like you got a.

the whole point is like not sleeping with him and you need to tease him so that was the first time that when we met this guy he wanted me in the room like he wanted me to see them together and then he also brought up like you know i should be doing the cleanup or all that stuff so it and he was also like he goes you know you don't realize it yet but he goes you don't realize it yet but he goes You know, you want to do some humiliation. Not in, like, outlandish things. It was more like when they were having sex. Like, he would, like, if he was doing her from behind,

he wanted her to tell me that I could never do what he's doing, that type of thing. And so we generally started grazing into, after that period of time, I think maybe we had sex two times after that. And I, we had found, and I think you've had her on,

that she goes by Anne. She's a hot wife. I believe you had her. Her name's Ann. I think I thought you had her on. Maybe I'm missing the name, but she doesn't have sex at all with her her husband.

She's got like a big website where she like. I don't think I've ever had her own. So this is a hot wife. Okay, wait. It's okay. So wait. So when you said, you just said,

okay, this guy wanted you to come in and be like a true cock and now you're there and you're watching and she's telling you, oh, he's so much fucking better than you and stuff. then he tells you guys that eventually to really get this going the right way, she has to stop having sex with you all together. Correct. Yep. That changed after being with him.

It totally changed where she just was full time. She was going to have sex with other men than I wasn't. And, you know, I was. But like I said, I was more involved at this point where I opposed before, where I only saw her after. Now I'm in the room. We generally moved into when she was comfortable with somebody,

they'd come to our house. So that was a different experience to be there or also have to go into the other room because they wanted to have more alone time. So to be in your house, hearing your wife with another guy, that was a different dynamic too.

Like that changed. That was a different experience. because before, you know, she'd come to a hotel and they'd come home, it was different to have them there and hear them and see them. Just totally, I think it ramped it up too as well. Oh, yeah, you were just being... Oh, yeah, you're just becoming it. You're just peeling back the layers to reveal the truest cuck, like, you know,

and now when that guy's fucking your wife in your bed, like, now you're the fucking cuck. That's it. Yep. That's the top of the cuck mountain. Yeah, and then she was mixing in guys that we would meet and set up involved with she was going out and, you know, with that one friend or this and that. And then she would, you know, come home like, like late, all hours of the night, whatever. And, you know, I would just be like, how was it? And she was like, why met a guy?

So she was having, quote, sex with unquote, unquote, like not guys in the cuckold world. Yeah. But still just having that sex on top of the guy. that we were meeting. So she was getting a little bit of both. Because the guys that you meet online, sometimes it takes a while. They're not from the area.

Or, you know, it's like you meet up and you're like, hey, do we match? And they're like, yeah, I'll be in, in like three weeks. Yeah. So it was almost like that was the stop gap. And for her, I mean, was it like once she opened, was it like Pandora's box for her? I mean, like once she opened that door,

like she couldn't stop. She just needed constant. new dick, you know, that she's like now going out with their friends, hooking up with regular guys. Yeah, she pretty much said that all that time that she was bottled up and didn't have her wild day, she felt like was all, I mean, I just saw a huge change in her. Yeah. You know, she was just like a hundred times more sexual. She felt better about herself.

Like, you know, she went from just wearing some, like, you know, a sweater and jeans to, like, she's wearing tight dresses or something showing more of her body and um the way that she was even having sex I thought was different like things that I was thought that you know she would held back on when we were together you know before all this like I'm like wow like some point I'm like I can't like that was in her like what stop wasn't able to get it out like anal like she was a three input girl all of a sudden I mean what were the stuff that she started to do that she had never done before um she was i mean it was i think like the she was just more like the passion that she was having like to have sex anywhere uh this now she didn't um she didn't do anal till the last

guy the guy that will probably end our story with um she was pretty against that i mean i know a lot of guys had tried i had tried through our marriage um she eventually did she did get there but like it would be something simple, which probably doesn't sound too erotic, but like if a guy stayed over our house and the next morning, you know, we're having breakfast, he would come out of the room, literally just pull her pants down and have her right there like on her island where like if I was to try to do that in our marriage, she'd be like, oh, I need a shower or. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally different scene. Oh my God. Yeah, so or, you know. It's like porn. It's like your little porn scenario is happening right. in front of you. Yeah, she just, I was like, she just got real, like, she just got really wild. I feel like she just was letting out all those years where she wasn't sexual was coming out now.

She just, and like I said, I mean, most of the time, there were still some guys that were flops and didn't work out, but she started gradually going to, when she liked someone, she would see them for a little bit more, you know what I mean? I feel like if they had a good connection, she was like, why am I going to try this new guy? He might not be what we want. This guy definitely works. So we kind of switched to like she'd see a guy steady for a couple months and then, you know, not see anybody else and then, you know, kind of went to there.

So it was more of like a steady thing. You got to know, like, you know, I'd have some of those guys would stay with us three, four days. Wow. And then. But like, when you're not having sex with those guys and they're staying with you, Are you, like, watching sports with them and hanging out with them and just rap in, like, dudes? Or what's the dynamic? Yeah, it's kind of weird majority of the time.

Like, there was a couple guys that was kind of awkward. Like, we kind of stayed in separate quarters a little bit for why they were there. But the other guys were great. It was almost like, like you said, I mean, like, we would have drinks and grill out. And you're, you know, I'm sitting there going. I almost forgot that this guy's here to, like, fuck my wife the whole time. Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting.

But that's because we got to know them for a way. You know what I mean? That was just through a lot more just feeling comfortable. Now, when you weren't having sex with your wife for that time when that started, what, I mean, what are you getting out of it? Were you in a cock cage? Were you loving being denied? Were you jerking off furiously?

I mean, how were you getting your rocks off? So I was giving her, which I've always liked to do. I was given her a lot of oral. She was given that to me in return sometimes. But there was also times, too, where a lot of what I got out of it was if, I mean, I would masturbate in front of her having sex. But then sometimes, like, when she would come home and I wasn't there, what she liked to do would be to kind of tell me everything that was happening and like, like how great

it was. And then she would jerk me off. Yeah. And, um, but we eventually, when we got to the guy that was the steady guy, um, he had wanted to me to be, and for a brief time, she had me caged off and on. Uh-huh. So we, we tried that. So that was hard for me because that was the first time I was ever like full time denial.

Right. But yeah, no sex. So I would say like none at all, like I said, besides. the her masturbating me or jerking off or she every now and I would give me oral like I had not penetrated her in a sexual way in years but what do you get out of that what does is there something about that that turns you on I don't know if it's the denial but I was just I was so consumed with how sexual she had became and and it felt like just knowing what she was doing or if I there seeing, I wasn't having sex with her, but I felt like I was in a way, like, feeling

what was going on. And just to see, like, how, like, she was just in such bliss, it would just turn me on like crazy. Right. That. So you didn't really miss it. I'm, I'm sure other guys that have the cuck thing going, understand it. You know, I'm just trying to get you to kind of explain it to the people who don't have that because I think some people are thinking, like, what the fuck like how could you sit there you know and see all this stuff that's turning you on it would seem like it would be sexually frustrating but for you the cock and probably any guy that's like a cock that scenario works and it's not sexually frustrating no and i would tell everyone's i think the big misconception is that a lot of guys think they want to do it because they watch that

porn stuff which i don't think is any type of reality of what happens it nothing nothing compares. I don't care what video you watch or like story you hear when you actually see it and you're in a good place with your partner. It's it there's nothing like it. I had a guy tell me it was a great thing. I'm not a I'm not a drug person, but he said he equated it seeing like the first time like someone probably would feel like when they did heroin or something like that. Like you just never get that high until you see it. And I admit it, like, I've seen other videos of things like that. And after watching my wife through all those years, I'm like, they don't do anything for me. It was actually being there or being in this lifestyle totally sexually satisfied me. Right. Even though you weren't having actual penetrative sex, the jerking off that you get from her or you jerking off and the watching and all of that stuff was enough. Or more than enough, actually, probably.

Yeah, it was weird. Like, I didn't have the sex, but when they were done, when she was done with a guy, they're done. And like, you know, you're having that post sex. I felt like I was having the same buzz as they were. Wow. That's interesting. And now, did you become the cleanup guy? Would you do that kind of stuff?

Did you go that far? Yeah. So I always liked doing the oral even before we got into this. And then when that one guy kind of told us, like, that's part of the full cuck experience, she was kind of weird about it at first because like I think I told you in the beginning like when she started like she would shower when she got home and when it took about a couple she was very uncomfortable the first couple times she just was like oh I don't want you know if I want you doing that and then it got to the point where we got comfortable she would come home and just literally I would be in bed and she would just climb on top of me or you know the guy if I was in the presence of them you know he would get out of out and this and that she was like, you know, you're good to go. And she got into it. She just felt like it was a way for us to connect.

Right. Okay. So now you start to get steady guys. Now, in between while this is all happening, are you guys having taught, like communicating or talking about what you're doing and making sure everything's like okay with everybody or are you just proceeding ahead? no we did like that was a big thing um i i said and i was like the one thing that i did when i was when i read those books by those sex therapist was like if you guys don't keep talking

it'll go wrong yeah and i i can honestly say that that was a great advice because we were just doing check-ins because there were times i'll be honest with as much as she was loving the sex there were times where she had some guilt and she was like you know and what are we doing is right. She's like, you know, because she said like in the moment she would be like, I love doing this. But like if she had sex all day Saturday by like Wednesday, she was like, am I doing this right? Or like, you know, is just the right thing to do? And I sometimes had those as well. I would, you know, say like, you know, can we ever get back to our marriage and like what it was? Like once you start opening this door, like, what would it be like? But we just were saying like everything's going. good. You know, if there's any doubts, you know, we'll take a pause. So you were doing check-ins with each other for sure. That's why I just want to make sure. Because I do know that it goes awry, so I'm trying to see where that left turn comes into play. But I think I do know where, what's going to, like, probably why it happens, because I don't

know the details. Yes, that was good. I mean, we did every now and then take a little bit of many breaks just to kind of, you know, calm things down and just kind of, you know, said, but then, you know, it would go back. And generally, like I said, I mean, most of the time, you know, we weren't having any, any problems in that way. And when we just, when she had those doubts or if I did, we just kind of reaffirmed that it's not affecting our marriage. We still are very into each other. Like, you know, long as that remains, this can happen. So this can still this still can proceed. Okay.

Things were going good, and then we met this one guy. Quote, unquote, this is going to be the guy, I have a feeling. I don't know. Yeah, no, no, this is, so we did this off and on. So we all told we did this for seven years. Wow, that's a long time. Yeah, and we did this the way that it was going. And like I said, there would be spells where, you know,

we didn't see anybody for six months or four months. You know what I mean? It wasn't like every week. Yeah. Yeah. So there was there was pauses. But we met this guy. But towards the end, by the time you met this guy, how long had you been in that phase

where you have no like sex at all where you've had no sex? How long? I hadn't had sex. I had sex with her once in the last four years. Wow. Okay. And that was, we were in one of her, we were in one of our dry spells where we just weren't meeting any guys. And we were away.

And she just was like, I need sex. And that was the one time that we had actually did it in that time frame. So yeah, about close to four years, we had, I hadn't done that, except for that one day. Okay, cool. So now your four years, no sex, you know, you got this thing going down. You're totally a cuck at this point. she's having regulars. She meets this guy.

Right. Yeah. So she meets him. And I mean, I can always hindsight 20, 20, picking up on things, but I got to be honest,

I didn't really. And he was different when I look back at it because he was the only guy that she really talked to non-sex days or like, and he, they just seem to like talk about like most of the guys that we were with,

It was always like sex talk or about the meetups. You know, he generally would ask her like, how's your day? How's work? You know, she would check in on with him. And, you know, just at the time, we just thought we were just building good report with this guy. Right. Looking back, you could be like that was something that was different than all the rest. Yeah, they were, they'd have normal conversations.

And he was the first guy that she ever went away with for an extended period of time. Like, they did a weekend. together and that she never she would even if she did it overnight and she was coming back home or if the guy was there like they generally left you know anything like this so they went away uh for a weekend again you know everything was nothing seemed out of the ordinary besides that um they just they just had to i got to be honest she was like he was by far the best love that she had out of all the guys. On top of the fact that she obviously liked his companionship too.

No woman's going to go away on a vacation with a guy unless she likes him more than sexually. You know what I mean? That's why I that. She took him on vacation and agreed to that because she liked talking to him. You know, she liked his companionship. Yeah. And I admit he was very, he was a nice guy. Like he was very good with me.

Yeah. Even. But like he was, I mean, if you were. to, I think, like, if she was to create somebody in the lab, what she wanted to someone look like, this guy was it. Oh, wow. Yeah, he was, I have to imagine, you know, he was very attractive. He was everything that, you know, that women, like, would look at him and everything and stuff. And they just had a really good, they had a really good connection.

And I think the first time, and they saw each, so we were strictly with him for a year. Oh, wow. Okay. I think she maybe had like a one or two one night stands, but generally it was him. He was coming over. She was seeing him. So we were with him for a while.

And I think what changed everything for us was I had got a thing for our work project. And one of the things was I had to go to Mexico. And of course, it was just supposed to be for me and her. I had one ticket. So she was like, what if we take him? We bought him a ticket. And he came with us.

So that was five days we traveled together. And I think being away out of the country felt free for her. I saw her with him in a different light. And I think what brought it up was, you know, those like little lazy pools that you have at the resort. Well, they were like, you know, in it together. and they were just constantly making out and everything. And I was at the bar and these group of women were like, oh, they must be on their honeymoon.

And I said, oh, I was like, no, they're not married, whatever. And that lady goes, one of the women went to me, she goes, well, I wish I had some passion like that. Look at them. And that night we went to dinner and they were, it was almost like I wasn't there. And then we went to a little bar club and they were dancing and it looked like they were practically having sex on the dance floor. We went back to our room, which was one of those where you have the room, the little kitchenette and then another room.

They practically had sex for like two hours. And I would walk in just to look in every now and then. And for the first time out of all the guys that she had been with, they weren't having sex. They looked like they were making love. Oh, no. It just seems different to me. And I think now, and like I said, I can hindsight 2020, I started looking at all the things leading up to that. I'm like, that should have been a signal.

I missed it. Yeah. And we came back and I kind of said, I'm like, hey, I was like, maybe we should start seeing, you know, trying out some other people. She was like, why would we do that? We have a good thing going and you like him. I said, yeah, I just think, you know, we should push pause. And she just didn't want to do it. And I just had a gut feeling.

And she was on one of those, I can't remember what it's called, but one of those apps where you can, like, chat with somebody, also not like your text message. Yeah. And I was going back. And I was, it just, it hit me like a gut punch, how they were talking to each other. Oh, because you saw everything.

Yeah. And he pretty much was like, I can't help. that I've fallen for you and no offense to your husband, but, you know, there's definitely a connection with us. And she basically was fighting feelings with him for months, but still seeing him. And he pretty much put his cards on the table and said, I want to be with you, like, leave and give me a chance. And I confronted her. And I just was like, hey, I know what's going on. I want to end this. And she said she was going to go see her mom for the weekend to think. And then I found out that they were together.

Oh my God. And she came home and I said, you know, I don't agree with this. Like, I'm going to put a stop to it. And she just was like, look, she was like, I hate that this happen. She was like, I'm in love with him. I have real feelings for him. And we started going back and forth. And I said, you just need to take a break from him.

And she was like, I honestly don't think I could do that. And she had told me, like, when they told me, like, when they told him, took a little break when we were seeing other people, he apparently like went out a couple times at another girl. She like lost her shit about it. Wow. And she just was like, I can't help it. Like I'm emotionally connected to him. And she was like, at this point, he gives me everything that I want. And she was like, I'm an emotional level with him and we're on top of the mountain with sex where I'm only providing one at this point. Oh, wow. So it was kind of tough to hear. Very.

And what was the one thing you were providing her? Well, I mean, if we were outside of her having sex with a men, like when we were actually, our marriage was going pretty good. Like, um, just like you're pretty much everything else besides that. We were like just having like in a good space. But what, what weren't you giving her? When you said he was giving her everything and you were only giving her, not giving her one thing. What was that sex? But I mean,

wasn't like, is that what you weren't giving her? She just was, I basically, her point was that like with him, it's everything. And I, she basically was like,

I, if we were, if I was to stop seeing him and you and I met together, we won't connect like that anymore. Like I'm way past how we had sex with him. Right, right.

And so, and she just told me she, she was in love with him. and I basically was like, do I even have a chance here, you know, what to do? And she said, you know, I'm just going to be honest with you. She was like, I don't think time will help. She's like, because, you know, he were just, I think I just want to see what it's like. I want to be with him. She's like, I just don't know how I can not be with him. Right. She already, they already were in it. I mean, their only way out of that was through it. She had to. go into that relationship and see how it played out. Now, I know that you leave, and I still want to hear the story, but I just want to know real quick, because I'm so curious. Is she still with that guy?

Yes. They apparently, you know, I moved away, but they guess, I guess they took a break for a little bit. I don't know why. Because we kind of kept our lifestyle under wraps, except for like a couple of people. people. I mean, there was a time where she got caught being with another guy with a friend of hers. And then, you know, I had a neighbor one time like, hey, just want to let you know there's cars here sometimes that aren't yours. That's what I'm always like thinking if I was the neighbor, what would I do? Oh, that neighbor like gave you the fucking heads up that your girl's cheating on you.

Yeah. So, you know, so it was kind of. That's so funny. So we did it up. She did it up like, I guess because some people were like, why are you leaving? You know, and so she ended up telling some people, you know, we kind of just gave everyone the song and danced with the divorce. But I did find out there was more people knowing that we were in that lifestyle. And, you know, that's why they were together. But yes, they took a little break, but they are still, they're still together. How long has it been since she's been with him? So it's coming up on 18 months.

Oh, okay. So it's still kind of new, but they're still together. So now she says, like, you have no shot. This is something that I have to do. Well, I mean 18 months of just them seclude, like, without me there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I understand. But they had a year before as well with when you were there.

But do you know if they have an open relationship? I do not. I can't say for 100%, but I'm going to say no just because that's kind of not her nature. Like, I mean, she didn't even want us to couple up in the beginning. But I don't know if this guy's different. Right, and he's definitely not the cock because he was the bull, so he probably doesn't want to take that role, right? So maybe they're having a very different experience for sure.

I would think if anything, maybe they might swing with another couple if they're comfortable because, you know, that would probably be, but I pretty much think it's just to do with them. Yeah, and the sad thing is, Scott, is that you probably, you know, and she should send you a thank you card and some flowers for this, but what you did for her was you just said,

okay, live out your child. Like you gave her seven years of getting all of that out of her system. You know, so if she was ever prepared to be monogamous, it would be now because she was able to have those seven years of fucking all those guys and getting all of that stuff out of her system. I mean, it was, you know, timing thing for you. You met her at the wrong time. this guy came in at the right time.

Here she is seven years after living at all of her fantasies. She probably can be monogamous now and probably maybe doesn't need all of that, you know? Yeah, I think because she was, that's the thing. She just didn't have a lot of experience and she had, this was a lot of experience for her. And this guy is the one that stood out. So she's probably just very, like, I don't, I think in her mind, she's like, well, what's going to be better than this? Yeah. You know, what I have now with him.

so she was able to test the waters a good bit. It's sad for you, you know. The story is sad for you. Now, like when you guys ended it, because you did have an open marriage, you allowed this guy to come in. I wonder, was there a lot of animosity between you two? Or were, you know, how did that parting of ways go?

Are you guys still on friendly terms? I wouldn't say friendly, but it's, it's respectful. I was very, I felt like I did in the beginning when she first cheated on me. I got very angry because I basically was like, I just gave you the world to do what you wanted. And the one thing that we said that we couldn't allow you allowed it to happen, like the thing that pissed me off the most was when I went back and read their messages, it was months ago, they discussed with each other. they were having real feelings, I feel like she should have stopped it. Yeah. She didn't want to.

Now she didn't. I mean, I guess I couldn't force her to or this and that. But like, so I was a little, just not happy with her. And so we did. It was very throughout the separation and the divorce. It got a little tense. But we still have to talk because, you know, I help her with supporting her daughter. Still.

So. Even though that's not your child. You still help. So even though that's not your child, you still help. Yes. Just because there's a lot of time there. Yeah, yeah. You probably see her as your daughter.

I mean, it's for it, right? I mean. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're a good dad, stepdad. So we still have communication when it comes to that. But I don't do the, like basically, if we have mutual friends or having like a party or something, if she's going, I don't go.

Yeah. I pretty much have only seen them maybe like twice since that, since this all happened. So at something, which was unavoidable that we both had to attend. Yeah, listen, I can imagine how you feel because here you are a guy who was cheated on. She came to you with a reason. You said, okay, I'll give you a pass, you know, which is pretty effing cool of you and fair of you. you know, and, but, and there is a big difference between what she did then and what she did the second time. And then, but you say, okay, I'm going to, you know, forgive you for that. And then

you open up the relationship. And like I said, I think you really helped her live out all these things and gave her back all those years that she didn't have. I mean, you got something out of it too. You know, 10 years from now, you'll look back and realize you did too. You know, you were having fun. She got to have all her fucking fun. And but then she goes and takes that and runs with it and falls in love with another person. I mean, not to, she probably didn't mean to, right? It's like no one's really at fault here. Some people, I can't wait for the comments on YouTube that people are going to go fucking crazy because they're going to be like, oh, he fucking deserves it. What do you expect? I mean, that is the scariest thing in everyone's biggest fear and

everyone's reason why they think it can never work out because like, why wouldn't that happen? I mean, it's kind of like Russian roulette. It only takes one guy to come in, especially if you're starting to have regulars and the way you're setting it up in that true cuck fashion where you are really not even having sex with her anymore. I think that's one of the biggest reasons that he was able to come in and really penetrate because I do think that sex, the physical act of real sex between a couple is a part of a relationship that needs to be there. That's the true intimacy. And if you're not having that with each other, there creates a distance. You didn't have that closeness. And I feel like that was a misstep maybe on some level because you created a little bit of

a hole that needed to get filled into just like a little distance between you and hers, that she would look someplace else. But it's still a sad story and I really feel bad for you. No, and I appreciate that. And I think you made a great point because

like I said, one of the things she told me when I was trying to fight winter back, she was like, well, I'm getting everything from him where I'm only getting part from you. That's what I kept saying. Like, what did she say she wasn't? It's a sex. I mean, I do think that that was where you guys went wrong. Yep. And I didn't want to come across as like, oh, you know, cuck holding is bad because I, I, like you said, up to that point, we were having a good time with it.

Like, you know, there's peaks and valleys with everything. You know, I just kind of felt like I look back because like a lot of things like when I listen to your podcast and others, I'm like, you just hear these like fantastic couples and stories. and I'm like, wow, like, why did it go wrong? Like, what did I do wrong? So there's been a lot of like... Self reflection. Self reflection of like, what did I do different than like when I hear these? Because when you have these couples on, I'm like, well, that was us at one point.

Yeah. So like, where did I slip up? But don't you think, I think the real big difference is the not, you did not have sex. Like when those ladies were like, look at that fucking passion between them. and when you said I saw them making love, you had not, not just not had sex with your wife, you had not made love to your wife

for four years. To me, that's the big misstep. Yep, I think that's one of the things that I've thought about too. It wasn't just sex that you weren't having with her. You weren't making love.

And that is a part of it. And I really think that was the, that was, something that was not good, I don't think, personally, for a relationship. No matter how hardcore you're playing and everything, I think you always have to come back and connect. What I find is going on with the couples that I hear that's always the best thing about the situation is the coming back to each other and that it's always about them and it makes their sex life with each other better. And I know that you were getting off.

the scenario by yourself and she was getting off with them, but it doesn't seem like you guys were coming together and getting off of it together. And that's the disconnect. And maybe, you know, you let go of it too. It was, this was like a joint thing. Both of you decided to not make love to each other. So I don't know. Was there maybe you guys never got fully back together after that time that she cheated on you?

know, you know, I wonder if maybe you didn't fix your foundation first before you went and played with others after that initial cheating. I think that's a great point because when I think back at that, I'm like, you know, we were such in a bad place and then it just turned around. That's what I mean. We tried to patch it up and then we went, you know, we talked about doing this and I probably, looking back, we probably should have gave ourselves like a good bit of time to just connect with. each other then approach this. Yes, 1,000 percent. You never did. So that disconnect was there and then it just got bigger and bigger in where you went. You were on a path of that only led to things not going well. I'm sorry. But that's why I asked a lot of those questions in the beginning when, you know,

because it seemed like I could tell that you worked through it so fast and I didn't really understand. I mean, you know, it was like months later, there you are. You know, what about that issue between you guys? And I think, like you said, you probably never really fix that and you just got into that. And not to say that you both weren't into it and you guys were horny for it, but you didn't tend to the issues at hand. And those were just swept under the rut. Yeah, and I also think we just didn't have the knowledge and experience. Like, I mean, there's so much more out there now.

Like I said, I mean, when her first. friend her, when her friend approached her with it, we were kind of like, what really is it? You know what I mean? So, you know, I feel like now, like, it would be totally different because we're like, okay, these are, there's so much now, like these are the do's and don'ts and make sure you do this and don't do that. Where we were, to be honest, like flying by the seat of our pants in the beginning and just kind of taking it as a go, we probably should have had more guidance in that way. And that, like, that's, that's, you know, that was probably more on me. I should have did that more because, you know, I was the beginning doing all the research and, and such. But I think, like, in today's world, the people that are doing it now, I think they just have a

lot more information and people's experiences. Yes. And listen, I mean, I don't know. You had seven years. You were with her for 15. You had seven years of this. By no means, is it a total failure? this is not like oh my god one year later your girls like in love with someone else bubba you know you

did it for seven years uh you know she met that guy they're still together are you with anybody else i haven't had so you know when this all happened in the separation i took a little self-reflection time and um but i i've dated here and there and it's it's i got to be honest it's kind of it's been that's been the adjustment because i'm going into dating, trying to reset, like, what I was living the last seven years. Like, you know, like, in the back of my mind, like, the first time I was, I had sex with somebody, I was the whole time I'm thinking, like, does she want to be with somebody else? You know, like, is she okay with just me and her?

So it's been a struggle. What would you want? What's your perfect relationship now? Would you never want to be in an open relationship like that again? would you be able to put your cuck tendencies aside and just maybe roll play it out or something and you would want a completely monogamous relationship? I mean, I could definitely go back to being the monogamous, but I think like in a perfect world, I would like to find somebody and our relationship starts off with that we connect

because I think you have to have that. Totally. I think so. Yeah. And then if, you know, she was wanting to explore, I almost. think I would have to meet somebody that was maybe wanting to do this as well, but also wants the relationship aspect. And if we hit it off, and that way, then down the road, we could lead into it.

You know what I mean? So if that could happen, that would be great. But yeah, I've been out on dates. I mean, I've only the longest, I think I saw somebody was like two months, and it just wasn't feeling committed or, or into it. So just kind of still out there, like just thinking of what I want. And I also didn't want to be serious with somebody because I'm still like, you know, what am I wanting in the end? And I wouldn't be fair to the other woman.

Yeah. You have a lot of baggage to unpack? What about sex? Have you had sex? I mean, you were like four years. I hadn't had it with your wife. Have you been able to have sex ever? Or has it been?

Yeah, that's what I was saying. The first girl that I had sex would, would after our thing, like the, like, as soon as I was done, I was like, you know, was she wanting to be with somebody else. Oh, right. Right. Right. Okay. It was hard getting back on the horse, not like wanting to have sex, just like getting back to being like, I'm the one doing it, Matt, the one. Yeah, I can imagine.

So. Because you were like wired to be turned on and into and being sexualized. It's just in a very different way for a long time, for four years. That's a long time. Yeah. So it's kind of just relearning almost. Yeah. You know, you're like, I mean, the first couple times.

I was like wow it was like I it made me realize how long it had been I was like I had to really I felt like that kid on prom like fumbling around a little bit in the beginning uh I just had to you know get in but like there was a couple times where I felt like it was getting better and and such but yeah it's definitely um very long too long of a gap and so I'm I feel like I'm finding myself again in that realm for sure uh being in that in that nature and I feel like It, you know, there's been a couple good experiences. Also, I'm a lot older now than I was when we started when I was married. So I'm generally, like, when I go out on dates or see somebody, the women are generally around my age.

So they probably, like, some of them, like, the one woman I had a pretty good sexual connection with, she was coming out of a sexless marriage. Right. So we were both like, you know, we just, it just, that worked out well because she had, you know, in a way, was not having sex like I was, obviously for different reasons. She wanted to her husband didn't. But she was looking more for like a long-term thing. And I just was up front saying like, hey, it was like, you know, the lot went on in my marriage.

You know, I didn't get into the details of like, I'm not going to be 100% there. So probably don't want to waste your time. So, yeah, I'm just going to see how it goes. Are you in therapy at all? I am not, no. You should. Are you one of those that doesn't believe in therapy?

Like guys, I think a lot of guys don't. Only because, you know, I do think sometimes it really helps to talk about things with somebody and, you know, who are you going to talk about this shit too? You know, you can. There's probably so many people don't even know it. And I think when you were cheated on and that first thing that happened, you know, it's like someone pulls the rug from underneath you. And then the second time of her having an affair. and that was so complicated. I think that there's just a lot to unpack.

And just being able to have someone to talk through it and just rehash it could really help you just get over it and get closure on it. So you could move on and show up, you know, to another relationship, whole and ready and figure out what you want. I mean, it just, it really helps at certain times in your life. It really does. And if anyone could use therapy, it's a guy like you that went through what you went through. No, I think you're right. And honestly, I wanted to give you a shout out. It's like it's the podcast like yours and some others out there where like you, you talk to people in this manner.

And it's more like in a good natured way where I'd rather listen to like some of the ways that you do and some others where you deep dive into this stuff as opposed to someone just being like, just tell me about the sex all the time. No, this is the stuff I love. I like love this. And this is why I do my show is to like really help people and show people the real deal. I love like psychology and self-help. And I think we're here. Like I'm one of those people that believe like we come here to be flawed and learn lessons. I think life is school and we're supposed to go through these things.

And, you know, so I'm really into self-help and working on things and getting through and unpacking it and putting it on the table and dissecting it. I love that. And I don't, listen, life isn't going to be that all the time. Sometimes it's just everyday thing. Sometimes life is just about being fucking happy. But sometimes it's about working on yourself at certain moments, really working hard and really just putting your shit on the table and focusing on that. A year or two of that could really take you, you know, a long way and being a lot in a better

place. It's just really good to do, especially after what you have been through. It's important. I do it on my show because I always say, like in what I believe. leave is like, I'll draw people in with my salacious titles and I get the sex stories and all that stuff. But I do hope that people learn things too as well, because I think that's important. That's a part of my voice. It's the thing that I think is most important. I never just want to hear the sex stories. I want to hear all the stories. And that's why when you emailed me and said it was

a cuck that didn't go right story, I was like, yeah, like, fuck yeah. Let's get that on because it's important. You know, because it's real life. And it's not, I don't like to paint on, you know a picture that's one color. You know, I like all sides of things. And, you know, your story's super interesting. I think people are going to really be analyzing it the way I did. And giving their two cents, I think my two cents was the right two cents. Okay. There's going to be a lot of crazy two cents you're going to see on YouTube. Yeah, I'm, I have a thick skin. I'm totally accepting. I'm probably going to get beat up a little bit in the comments. But I, you know, I appreciate everything that you had to say and yeah and like I said I mean like I don't hear too much about

this it's like I don't it's not like I'm I feel like everything was good it's just maybe now someone that listens to you they did the same thing it happened to them you know just you know so you don't feel like you're the only one out there like not only that you know what maybe someone listening this will be like oh you know what maybe I should fuck my wife at because and not be so cuck like her you know like that whole thing you know they'll hear like mistakes that you do and they'll learn what not to do. I mean, I think that always helps. And you know who else is going to get a lot out of this is you. Talking to me, I'm sure, felt really good in putting your story on the table. But when you actually hear yourself talk about this as a third person,

you're going to get even more out of it. You don't even realize. Trust me, though. It happens all the time. I know I'm going to get an email from you where you're going to just realize, like, wow, I thought it was like great just to talk it out, but actually listening to it back was even more helpful and healing. And you'll see that, you know. But I also really hope that you do get into therapy because you should be talking about this more. Just once a week with somebody, do it.

It'll really help you and help you move on so you could wind up in a really great relationship, too, and your next one, you know, clear and as baggage-free as you can. No, I appreciate that. And I really appreciate allowing me to talk with you and your advice. advice, you know, and not just here when you do your other podcast. I always generally find why I get done listening. I'm like, oh, you know, I didn't think of it that way. So I think it's helpful. You have a platform like this for things that are out there and what people are doing. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Seriously. And I believe it. It's needed. And I love to do it.

It's what the reason why I started my show is because I'd be like analyzing my friends' lives like this. And they'd be so fucking annoyed with me. You know, because some people don't want to, you know, No, they don't want to do that. And that's why I started my show because I'm like, let me just do it and analyze people and question people that want to, you know, that are in that place and ready for it and meet people where they're at. So, and so it's a great outlet for me because this is what I love to do. I loved this episode.

I loved your story. Thank you so much for calling in and sharing it because it's fascinating. Thank you so much for allowing me. I really appreciate it. Yeah, it was great, Scott. So stay tuned. Let me know what you think after you hear it. I will thank you so much. Okay, bye. Bye-bye.

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