Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 551 - June and John Were Super Religious and Now They're Swinging

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

June and John were super religious and now they’re swinging and they called in to talk all about it. Why did they decide to go against their religious beliefs and start swinging? How far have gone while swinging? And, what else is on their list of things to try next? Tune in for al the details which include the purity culture they grew up in and how that shaped them, June’s near death experience and how that change her view on things, the first time she saw a lesbian sex scene and how she felt about it, how and why they started sharing all their secret fantasies with each other, the porn star he hired to teach him how to be better in bed, their first experience at a swingers club and exactly what went down, the boundaries they set up and how and why they evolved so quickly, their friends “GI Joe and Barbie” and what they all do together, how and why June only plays with women and what she enjoys most, their type of women they look for, their arguments over who gets to do what and how they’ve managed to resolve them, the toys they bring to the swingers club and what June likes to play with the most, the first time June squirted, what she loves most about being watched, whats on their f***-it list that they want to do next, how they’re documenting their journey as newbie swingers on their own podcast and a whole lot more. You can find their podcast here: www.NewSwingersPodcast.com **To see anonymous pics of June and John + anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So if you want to see those, join my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The links to everything and all the information I just gave you is in the description. So don't worry about remembering any of them. Today I have on June and John. They are a couple who were super religious and now they're fucking swingers. And this is a quick, this is like something that happened recently. They happen to be journaling what they're going through and their swinging experience as newbies or recent swingers. on a podcast themselves, their podcast is called New Swingers Podcast, the New Swingers Podcast. Wait until you hear what effing goes down on their podcast. Besides them, talking about their new newbie swinger experiences.

I think that's like a really good concept. A lot of people who have these podcasts out, the swingers that are doing it, are so professional that I think sometimes, you know, you forget what newbies really want. They know because they just started out themselves and they're here to talk about their journey. they do that also on their podcast. Toursy and we talk about that. But they talk about why they went from being very vanilla and very religious into putting, you know, into going to a swingers club and hooking up with other people. It started with them explaining to each other and putting on the table their fantasies. And like, listen, John was holding back some fantasies that he knew he always wanted.

But June had it. I mean, she was a woman that was so religious that she never even masturbated. She didn't know what the fuck she wanted until she saw a movie with a lesbian scene that. She was like, oh my God, I'm like fucking horny for that shit. And that's what sort of set it all off. They started talking about their fantasies, what they wanted to do. And then they just decided to go to a swingers club. And they started hooking up with other people.

And they talk about, you know, what that first experience was about. A couple that they meant, they called G.I. Joe and Barbie and how they played with them. The kind of boundaries that they have and how that has evolved over. time. They just started out so it's not like they're really hardcore, but they explain exactly what they're into, which is other women. I mean, she doesn't want to see him with other women, but she gets to fool around with other women. So they have had some arguments about like, how the fuck do you make that fair, right? He loves seeing her with other women, but he wants to be with other women too. But she doesn't want him to be. So what do they do?

They explain it. She talks about what she's into, you know, doing with guys, how she learned how to squirt. There was like a porn star. They say his name on there that they hire to sort of help them out and get, and they were trained by him. I need to get him on my show. I guess he goes out and trains people on like what to do. And like I got to say what he told them how to get like women off was very, it was a very smart trick. You're going to hear it. And when he was talking about it, I was like, yeah, fucking right.

That's what you should do. And not do. And you'll have to listen to the episode to hear what his tips were. And then they talk about how June is an exhibitionist. and why she loves people watching her, as well as the fact that she has blown him on one of their episodes. I don't know, you have to listen to the end,

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So I'm going to be right back on with June and John. Hi, June and John. How are you guys today? Jay and Jay, June and John. You said that this reference to June and John is because you guys are Johnny Cash fans, right? Oh, yeah. Big time. So now I have the both of you on the phone.

The short story that I know is that you guys were or maybe still are, I don't know, super religious couple and now you're probably doing things that your religion would say is a big fat no-no. You can say that. It would be frowned upon eternally. Very frowned upon, right? So walk me through your guy's story. You know, how long have you been married and when did the big change come about that you started swinging? Is that what it is?

Like, what do you guys do, first of all? Yeah, about two months ago, we decided, I don't remember exactly how the topic came up, but I do remember the backstory. We basically went to a swingers club because we were like, hey, that'll be funny. Even if we don't like it, we could look back one day and go, can you believe we did something like that just to see what I was? So we got pretty adventurous. But this came about after June had a horrible car accident she was involved in. Do you want to tell them a little bit about that? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so this was, man, it was honestly, it was like right after COVID happened. It was the same month. It was in March 2020. And I was driving in the car with my daughter. And we were, you have to cross over traffic to get into our neighborhood we live in. And so we were turning left to go into the neighborhood. And as we were trying to turn left on the light, the guy ran the red light. and T-boned us.

Mm-hmm. And my daughter broke her arm. I had herniated discs and I had to get fixed. And, yeah, it was the two years were rough. Two and a half years of hell. You mean because of pain and all that stuff that you had ever since that accident? Yes. Okay.

Yes. Yeah. Concussion. I had that as well. And so a lot of memory issues, TBI, dramatic brain injury. Oh, wow. and PTSD from the car accident. I still kind of feel like I have that a little bit because I still have to go to that light every day.

Right. So every once in a while it's a little triggering. But, you know, something kind of clicked in June. I was going to say, it's interesting that you're, because you do tie in this, you know, a car accident to swinging. So it's like, yeah. Well, the thing is that was probably the closest. to death one of the times that she's been closest to death ever and you know when you grew up super religious um it's like it's like you're in this box and you don't dare think to step out of it

but if you've ever had a real near-death experience not after life i'm talking but like i you almost literally died some it sometimes it makes you just question a lot of the things you were taught and you just think to yourself well is it really that way and you started asking questions you get a little more bold because you just sort of have some sort of, I don't know if you have insight or what it is, but you start questioning a lot more things. And what we ended up finding is that through her exploring after the car accident, she just wasn't as afraid to try things anymore or to maybe discover parts of herself that are there that she was, that she was conditioned to be against since the day she was born yes and i was and and also i would say i almost died and lost my life so

you know i'm in my late 30s now and it's like i have one life and i almost lost it so i don't know like life's too short and i almost lost it and i you know i want to why not try things we've never tried before and then also what i'm going to tolerate and what i'm fucking not going to tolerate anymore in my life because of me almost losing my life. Right. But how did it like, you know, a lot of people then maybe would decide, oh, I'm going to like jump out of a plane or I'm going to like quit my job that I always hated and get a new one or I'm going to fucking leave my husband and I never like, you know, it's interesting that

you were like, oh, I'm going to go become a swinger. I mean, had you guys had you had, I mean, who brought that up as something and check off the bucket list before we die, you know? Well, so we've been married, you know, 17 years. And so it was last summer, honestly, when we were just on a camping trip. And John shared he had this, he called it a fucket list. Yeah, totally. That's what it should be called.

Sex bucket list. Yeah. Things he wanted to try before he died. And, you know, he goes into telling me the list of different ones. And he's, you know, kind of like, we got one life to live. And you can either, you know, he's like, I just want to share it with you, either whether we do any of this or not, at least you know me. Right. And I had had a few glasses of whiskey.

Johnny Walker really assisted me with this courage. I was kind of past that point of, well, she doesn't like it. Well, fuck it. At least she knows me. At least she knows. And I would never press anything on her. her or pressure her to try anything. But had you, like, because I know that the religious thing does tie into it a little bit,

was it like you guys kept these fantasies that you had or this whole fucket list to yourself because of your religion and it kept that sort of that part of you repress? I mean, I've had all these things for years, but there was no way I could never, there's no way I could ever think of to even bring them up to share them with her without me being afraid of her being offended. Right. But I had learned, I learned months previous to this, she had shared something with me about, you know, this sort of attraction she was having. And she was really scared to share it with me.

Yeah. But I'm very welcoming and open. And so given she had, you know, shared some fantasies, you know, that she had had, which she can go into if you want, I felt a little more free to just say, hey, mine might be a little more out there than yours or different. But, hey, we can maybe be on the same page. And so what were those things June? So really it was like June that kind of put something out there first. Yes. So about a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, really, I saw this movie with Charlene's Theron in it.

And there was a girl on girl scene. And I was watching it with a, well, what I call vanilla friends now. And we were watching. the movie together and when that came up she's like oh my gosh that stuff's in that movie and oh my gosh I was like oh my gosh you would put that in the movie in my head I'm like oh my god that's hot

I'm getting wet oh interesting maybe she was too and you're both fucking lying maybe I don't know but like I was in my mind I was like okay what the fuck is like going on in my head and why am I all of a sudden like turned on to this but I just was. And so for about a year, honestly, I would watch that scene and find other lesbian porn that I would watch secretly in the closet, literally in the closet. Yeah. And John didn't know about it because

I was so like, well, just because of how religious I grew up, it was like, that's wrong. And what is like, because then I'm thinking, what is wrong with me? And how can I share that with him? Because what is he going to think about me? Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, like I said, I've always been very open. I love her no matter what she is. I love her more in knowing her this way now. But it was that religious conditioning that basically said,

you're evil because you're born. You're guilty because you exist. You're just you're fucking wrong because you're here. And there's nothing you can do about it. And so everything was wrong to her. So it wasn't even like that I would shame anything. I wouldn't. but it was just this this mindset that was drilled into her from the beginning

that like it's not okay to be yourself yeah which I think is really sad and it hurts a lot of people yeah and I'm wondering because like is this the first lesbians thing you ever watched so am I should I assume that you never even looked at porn because I don't know I mean no I never did I never did until this point I mean I think there was other movies that had a little bit of you know like three some stuff in it or whatever But because of how I grew up, I was always like, oh my gosh, like gross, you know? Right. Like somehow.

Had you ever masturbated or thought like or had an? No. Interesting. Okay. No. So and is that, do you think? Is that because of your religious beliefs or you just weren't curious? Oh.

Who doesn't jerk off? I never did. I know. Right. Absolutely. That's why. Right. Absolutely.

I mean, yeah. I never thought about doing that. I just never, I don't know. Like, I just never, to me it was like, oh, like, why would I do that? Right. But so when did you meet your husband? Were you a virgin when you met him? And did you lose your virginity at a door, you know, when on your honeymoon night?

Well, no, I had had sex with the guy before him and he was the first. Okay. Um, so, but I remember, I remember thinking even with that guy, I remember throwing my purity ring across the, the room like, oh, my God, what the hell did I just do? Like, feeling so shameful and guilty. And, and so then, like, when we broke up, I was like, I'm not doing that again until I'm married to the person. So John and I, we did wait until we were married. But you were in a virgin. How long would you date for? That was a little under a year. Oh, okay. And were you that those ridiculous people that like had anal sex and oral sex and 69 and totally naked but you just didn't put it in that one hole and you consider yourself a virgin? No, not at that people. Me too.

I'm like, that's like more than losing your virginity. Exactly. I know. You're just making excuses. But you know, that's what a purity culture thing kind of does to people. I know. I have to try to find a way around it where it's like, why don't you just. fuck each other and get it over with you know are you going to like it anyway you know we're kind of made

that way I don't know yeah I mean listen I get it in the way that they put it but I what I don't get is these people that then say okay I'm not gonna I'm gonna do everything else but I'm not gonna put it in my hole and then they claim that they're you know virgins I don't think so I don't know but I you know it's a way of rationalizing it um you know so we fold around a little bit but that was mean, we never, but very minimal, like heavy, heavy makeout. That was about it. Yeah, that's a little scary only because you're like, wonder, because I do think that, you know, sex is definitely not the end-all be-all, but you wonder if you're going to

enter into marriage. You wanted to be with somebody that, you know, you're compatible. So I'm assuming you guys had, like, a lot of chemistry that you were like, okay, we'll get, let's, like, hang our hat here, but you don't know what the sex is like. You know, that's something we look at now. And I was, I was just telling you in the other day, this should be part of marriage counseling. Right.

Like, how are you sexually? We happen to get lucky that we are compatible in that way, but a lot of people are not. And here's the other thing with like a purity culture thing. You know, you're raised in your whole life, your neurons and your brain are set for so many years that sex is bad,

sex is bad, sex is bad. But then you get married. They're like, hey, go enjoy yourself. Well, you literally, like, medically, physically, scientifically, you can't just like change the way the neurons have been wired in your brain, the neural connections. You actually have to undo that stuff. We know people who had

a very difficult time even having sex on their wedding night because they come from the kind of environment we came from where you don't just flip it off like a switch. That's like being told, hey, killing people's bad. Don't kill people. Don't kill people. And then one day they're like, you know what, fuck it. Kill somebody. Or you know what, this day, five years from now, you're allowed to kill. Yeah, yeah. But you have to like undo the neuro, whatever it called the pathways that have been, you know, taught to you your whole life. And so that's another tragic side of it. But since we've been honest, here's the thing since we've been honest with each other over these past few months in particular, like a lot more than even before. We actually love each other more. The sex is even better and it was never bad. It was always good. And now it's even greater. Well, especially when I opened up and I did finally tell John that I, that I had been watching porn because I had a few glasses of wine and me around a campfire. Yeah. Go figure both around a campfire.

That's funny. But I remember just telling him, I'm like, I had something to tell you and I don't want you to get mad. And, of course, he was like, I promise I'm not going to get mad. And he doesn't say that unless he's actually not going to get mad. And so I just told him. I was like, you know, I said, I've been. like masturbating with my vibrator in the closet watching this lesbian porn and he's like really which ones of course right maybe he's seen her like I know her well I don't know her but you know yeah yeah yeah

want to watch it together is that would that be better would you want to watch it together yeah and so just doing that for the past year has been like made our sex life even even better because we watch it together right we still do now have you been with the woman since yes when was you just had a first your first experience because I know that going to the swinger club was just very recently you opened up this conversation about you like in girls

a year ago so between that time and two months ago were you doing other things that led up to the swingers club no I mean really we were just watching that lesbian porn and then and then like we said John had shared his fuck it list with me. And a swingers club was one of the things that was listed. Yeah. And I remember telling him after he had shared all the things, I said, well, there's a few of

them that I wouldn't mind trying. And then there was a few things I wouldn't mind trying eventually. So he was like, really? Well, which ones would you want to try more recent? And she did that thing. She did that thing sometimes that women do, not all of them. But they'll be like, oh, yeah, there's a few. And then they'll talk around it and kind of like the planes just circling the airport.

and I'm like, hey, can you just land the plane and tell me the three or four things? And then we can discuss that. Like, that was really curious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm just a really straight to the point kind of person. Like, but like, don't try to not hurt my feelings. Just tell me how it is.

Then let's talk. And so she did that. And I don't know if it was, I think we had like a strip club to go on there together first. But then you actually were more afraid of going to a strip club than a swingers club because he didn't want some lady sitting in my lap. And I thought, you know, you know, a swinger's club, you know, people go there to do it, right? And for some reason, for her, a swinger's club was felt less threatening than a strip club. It still makes sense to me.

How? Explain it. No, no, not for the women. I think the women will understand more so than the guys, but explain it for the guys listening or for the people that don't understand it like your husband didn't. Yeah. Well, for me, it's like, okay, if we go to a strip club, like, what if some lady like hops on a, his lap and starts grinding on him and I'm not ready to see that yet. And I felt like if we went to a swingers club, we could dip our toes in together slowly through this and then we could work our way

up to somebody grinding my husband, which obviously has been more than that at this point. But, but, but we're in more, I felt like we were in more control environment and we can tip our toes into it versus just some lady randomly starts grinding my husband. And I'm not. ready for that yet. Yeah, for sure. I could see the difference. It's a very different experience. Yeah. Because of the people on the other end. You know, if you're going to a strip club, like, it's their job to sit on your lap and grind you and do all that shit. And they're kind of, sometimes on autopilot, they're working. Whereas when you go to a strip club, everyone's there for mutual enjoyment. It's more consensual. It's different kind of a vibe. I get it. Yeah.

Well, that and that, it's a very controlled environment. There are lots of bouncers at the Swinger Club who will roam around and they know if somebody gets unprofessional or non-consensual, it would almost always be a guy. Yeah, they throw people out of there. So it's kind of like, oh, there's lots of, you know, bouncers here. So like that makes anyone feel safer. It's probably the safest spot in the city, actually. Other than maybe inside a police department. Yeah. Yeah, that's so funny. So now how did, so during that whole time, you're just watching lesbian porn, you're talking about all. your fantasies that are on your

fuck it list, John. Yours, one of them was go to strip club, but you guys never did that? You went to the what about the sex coach? I mean, didn't you say you get sex coaching from a porn storm looking at your email? Is that, was that on your bucket list or what? I don't understand. It wasn't, but

it's weird how, I don't know if you call it synchronicities or what you call it, but you start, you know, going different directions in life. Somehow, I came across, I don't know if it was an ad or what, but I came across this guy who's like been a porn star for like 25 years and he's like, hey, if you're looking to up your game, here's some of the struggles guys deal with. Here's some of the different environments you might find.

And I thought, you know, I don't deal with any of that. I'd never need that guy's advice because when I'm in the bedroom with my wife, I'm 100% all the time. Well, then we get around a swinger club environment. And it's like, oh, this is real different. And I was more like distracted than anything. It's like, you know, because it went from always being only to the. bedroom with my wife where it's quiet to a club where there's hundreds of people in this club

doing all kinds of things and lots of noise and music and of course then I'm looking out for my wife making sure nobody's trying to like touch her as they walk by or something so I'm on protection mode and so I thought you know what um I'm going to see what this guy's all about and so he basically there's like there's a technique that he he teaches about how to go down on a woman And I always wondered how to do that for June. But I could never figure it out. And like, we've done online courses. We paid, you know, 150 bucks per course.

And things like that. And he gave me like, like, he just wrote me in an email. He's like, here, just do this, this and this. And after the third thing, he's like, just keep doing that until she gets there. I'm like, okay. So I tried those three things. And I get her there in seven minutes. What were the three things?

I'll tell you what they were. I don't know if I know how I explained all them in depth, but basically it was, you know, flick your tongue up and down this way and then go left and right this many times and just keep that pattern, that consistency. And then he talks about reading or body language because, like, if you're doing something

and there's no body language, then, you know, maybe try something. He had a couple different ways of doing it based on, you know, two different ways women tend to like it. If not this one, if this one's too hard, then this one's a way to do it softer and like look for her body language if if her leg shakes or if her you know she's moving her hips you know or you can tell just look for the signs to look for things like that and he said once you're going in that direction he's basically like just don't stop and so yeah kind of even if she's getting there to keep the same i remember you telling me that like keep the same tempo even if she's getting there Yeah, like a lot of guys or most guys, if you're getting your lady there and she's starting to orgasm, the first thing most dudes I want to do, for some reason we think we need to like ground and pound like a gorilla right there. We need to like go from zero to like 500 miles an hour.

And he's like, yeah, don't do that. That's a mistake. He's like, just keep doing what you're doing at the pace you're doing it. So I'm like, okay. And she eventually started laughing her head off like a minute later and had shoved my head away because it was like she was not aroused anymore. got there and now she's ticklish. Yeah. Who was this pornster?

His name is Eric Everhard. And you don't remember how you found him? I do actually because we were listening, I don't remember what podcast, but we were listening to a podcast on our summer vacation. And we had listened to one. And he was one of the persons that they were interviewing. That's right. That's right.

Yeah. We were driving through the middle of Missouri on the way home from vacation, middle of nowhere. And he came on as a guest. All right. So now let's just get to the stuff in the Swingers Club. And then I'm sure I'll have more questions. You know, you eventually just two months ago, okay, you started going to a Swingers Club. Is that when you really started checking this shit off your bucket list?

Yeah, because, well, here's the funny thing. Our first visit, we're like, hey, we're just going to go and observe, watch, see how it goes. And we recommend people do that. Yeah. And then we went back like a second time, like the following week. And by the time we left to go home, we got in the car, I looked at the list, my bucket list. And I'm like, I think we just checked like nine things off there by accident. Like one turned into like, it's like you did one.

And then you slipped down like an icy slope. And then we're like, oh, there's like nine other things. And we're like, well, what did we like or not like? and like we liked it all. Well, what did we have a problem with? What did we have conviction about? None of it. It was all really fun.

And then we're like, well, I wonder what else would be just really fun. Well, you have to get more specific than that. You just went through. We did nine things, ten things. So tell me what actually went down. So the first time you just went and you just sort of observed? Yes, we just went because we're like, well, let's just go. and we don't like I don't want to do anything this first time.

Like let's just go and observe it and see what it's like. And what was it like? It was really nice. Like they had a whole lobby area that, you know, they got a bar where you can bring your own drinks and they kind of provide like, you know, like apple juice or orange juice, things like that to mix with your drinks you bring. And they got a couple stripper poles and like a dance. floor couches it was like the most normal non-threatening place in the world i mean you could walk into

like a restaurant or like a grocery store and and like walk past these same people like you think it's this weird thing until you walk in the doors at least the one we go to it was like the most normal down-to-earth fun environment nobody's pressuring anybody we didn't know if we're going to walk in just see like like 500 people having a giant orgy like we didn't know what to expect it was Nothing like that. And, well, here, I'll tell you what, well, you kissed your first lady. It was that, what, that second week? It was the second week.

First time ever? Well, and you said the second week, we did it all the things. That was the third week, actually. Oh, sorry. But the second week was, well, the first week we met a couple that came up to us. Okay. Married couple. And we talked with them for hours that first night.

Just really, John and the wife really connected. And, and me and her husband started talking. two and you know we all had a really great connection and so um we exchanged numbers at the end we met for dinner that second week before going to the club and um that second time um i had already told her at dinner that i really wanted to kiss a girl but was super scared about it and she was like well if you ever want it to be me for the first time i would be willing to do that for you. She kind of had the house for both of us,

and she had prior lady experience. And so that week that we did go to the club and June finally did kiss her, that was actually the first night. Me and my wife both kissed the same woman. It was kind of funny and cool because June made out with her than I did. Yeah.

Yeah. But did you guys have any, I mean, because you had a lot of time before you took the plunge into the lifestyle. It was just recently, and you had all that time where you were really opening up letting go of all your repression and religious stuff, right? Did you have any discussions about any kind of rules or boundaries? Were there any?

There were. The thing is, it's like we had an idea of like what boundaries we would want, but at the same time, we didn't know exactly every situation we would encounter. So the boundaries made basically were like, well, hey, we're not doing anything tonight with anybody. If that changes, now I told her, just talk to me, let me know, you know, whatever. And so we had set kind of like a basic set of very vanilla boundaries. But then as we got around more, we discovered like, okay, maybe we should have this boundary, that boundary. And they sort of developed. And what are then?

And as we would try stuff, then it was like, okay, now we know kind of what, what we really like and enjoy now. Yeah. And so like, well, yeah, as far as what they were like in the beginning, she really didn't want me doing like the very first time. She was like, you know, June was like, well, I don't want you kissing another lady. Okay. So that was the boundary. Yeah, but you broke it the first time. No, no, no.

We didn't break it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean like the visits before that, that was the boundary. but then once she kissed the lady, then our boundaries sort of evolved where, okay, well, it's okay if you do too. And then after that, it was,

we did like, was it that night or the next week? We did like the side-by-side parallel play. We didn't touch them, but they were having sex on the same bed we were with each other. That was the same night. Okay, you ladies were making out.

Yeah. You know, me and him were like laying head to head and the ladies were on top of us. and you know he and I were fist bumping each other and the ladies were kissing and we're like man we hit the jackpot huh you know and so that was that same night um that was the first time we'd ever been um in the same room with anybody um and doing that well and then like what was it the next uh the following week we met our friends who we called GI Joe and Barbie because you know he's a prior military guy and she looks like a Barbie doll and she yeah she picked us up and she's like, hey, we started talking and we went in this room and there was like them and another hot couple and then us. And so there are three couples on the bed and we were all just, you know, playing with our own partner. And then, you know, the girl who we call Barbie, she, she's basically what said like, hey, can I kiss your guy? And, you know, next thing you know,

I'm kissing her and you already kissed her. And then I went down on her and our buddy G.I. Joe is like, hey, can I kiss your lady? Of course, I'm going down on his girl right now. So how do you say, out of that. And I looked at her and said, do you want it? And she goes, yeah, I don't care. And so that's all they did. Right. And yeah, so all these things started just sliding off the fucket list. Big time. So, because I know that you did say, oh, when we went to the strip club, like, I didn't want to go there because I didn't want a girl grinding on my guy. You know, it's like interesting that you have like a boundary for the strip club, but no boundaries

for the swingers club. But is it because when you were like there, you were just so horned up that you just realized that you didn't care about the stuff that maybe you thought that you had? Like this is the question for June. Well, I think it was just because, like I said, we were gradually doing things together. Yeah. And so as we were just gradually doing things, the kind of the more you're around that environment, the kind of the more comfortable you get. And so it was kind of like, well, you know, we tried that last week.

So maybe let's try that again and maybe try to test, like push the boundary a little bit, more the next time to see what else we can try to see how we feel about that. You know, that's kind of how we've went with this the whole time is like, hey, well, we tried that and we really liked that and everything we've tried so far we've liked. So what if we try this and see if we like that too? Right. So you just keep pushing the boundaries. And how did you feel the first time you saw each other with someone else? Have you done a full swap? No, we've never done a full swap. And I don't really know if I really would want to do that. Mm-hmm. Well, that's It's a boundary or a rule or something.

Yeah. Yeah, only because I, the one guy that I have played with, the G.I. Joe guy a little bit, it's been fun. But I don't know. The more I would think about it, I'm like, you know, we just had kind of discovered this a couple weeks ago. I was like, you know, I really just want to play with girls. I don't have any desire to play with guys anymore. So now that became to, hey, now let's look for women that we can do threesomes with because we've found out that we're both attracted to the same type of woman.

That's good. That keeps you on the same page. What is the kind of woman? We have way more in common. Yeah. Way more in common than we thought we did. Yeah. And what is that woman for you guys that you guys really like?

Kind of like our friend Barbie, right? Yeah. I mean, we don't, we wouldn't say no to somebody who isn't like, well, I see Barbie. So you picture like, you know, skinny, petite. That's kind of her preference. but we've also realized like that's not the only fun out there. Like we actually kind of don't care about like physical size. But on the smaller side, you know, we're both, you know, more thin people in general.

And so we kind of look for people like ourselves, but we haven't, you know, we don't like turn away from people who are great people if they're not just like us. How many women have you guys been with? At this point. Well, he's he's fucked. what two two or three two or three maybe with you that with me there you were part of it yeah you were like doing stuff with them too and that and that's the funny thing she she she had a problem with me doing stuff with another lady until like one day she got involved and then she

goes you know I'm really not that frustrated by it as long as I'm involved and so we just sort of discovered that solution that it's as long as it's a threesome you have have to be there too and then you don't mind i mean does it turn you on to see your guy with someone else or no it's something you tolerate or is it a turn on it's not really a turn on for me um it's more of just like um i don't know like i guess if we're playing with the girl together it doesn't bother me and if he's getting pleased and so am i at the same time by the same person then i don't have a problem with it right you know like i want him to be pleased, but I just want to be involved as well.

But it's not. Yeah, she doesn't have to twist my arm. I'm okay with that. Yeah. You could probably imagine. Well, yeah. It's interesting, though, I got to say that since doing my show, I used to always think that the two girls, one guy, three-some was like every guy's fantasy, but

I find more guys that I talk to that have the fantasy of the opposite. They don't care so much about their girl with another girl. What they really want to see is their girl with a guy. Now, do you have that on your fucking list, John, or you like to see her with a woman more so? And you get to hook up with the woman. Yeah. I absolutely do not have on my list to see June with another guy. Right. I was shocked. Yeah. Right. I'm still shocked at how many, how many guys I find that is their fantasy and to each their own. Where I come from, it's kind of like,

hey you looked at my lady wrong and he wants to fight you now it's like there's all these guys going hey you want to fuck my lady and like that's like their thing so it was very surprising to me but yeah there's nothing in me that wants to see june with another guy but if that's something i said from the beginning like if that's something you wanted to try like then go for it and you know whatever but it's not something i like i sit around thinking up and wanting to see but we know people who are like that. We have many friends that are that way. And I've told him this too.

Like I don't really get turned on by seeing you with another girl like either. Like, but you don't have another choice. So it's kind of like I kind of have to get over it for me, you know, so that he can enjoy himself. And so, you know, that's really been a lot for me to mentally overcome. And so that's, but we have. have found through talking and even some fights we've had along the way and just and mainly just with me being ultra-religious, even more so than John, I've felt I have had a lot of mental work that I've had to do to get through that shit to just be like, look, it's okay. We are doing

this together. It's okay. Yeah, and the part of the together piece. Yeah. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say like why, you know, could it just be that maybe some of these things you're just not into, like, and maybe you don't need to talk yourself through it or force yourself to enjoy it? I mean, you know, maybe there's just, it has nothing to do with religion. It could just be like how you're wired. I don't know. I mean, how much do you have to push your, like, what are the stuff that you're pushing yourself to accept that you haven't accepted? Well, I just, I think because at the beginning, I was doing a lot of things with women. And he wasn't really getting to do a lot because I wasn't mentally ready to see that stuff. Yeah, yeah. And so that kind of caused some, some tension because he's like, okay, you're doing all this stuff. But what about me being able to explore myself? Oh, John, I love it.

You're the typical guy that I hear from all the time. No, you're every guy. And I can't wait to hear you explain for sure, because I have to tell you how many times I put out an episode on YouTube and I love YouTube because I get to hear everyone's two cents about the episodes. Yeah. Yeah. And what I hear over there always is you, John, the guy that's like, oh, she gets to be with somebody out. Like, why doesn't the guy? Now, most of the time it's couples that the guy doesn't care about being with another girl, you know, and that's what I'm always saying. But in this situation, you guys are that couple where, you know, June is able to play.

play around and John's like, I want some too. You do want other women as well as just like she's getting, right? That was the situation. Yeah. And I think it has more to do with dynamics. Like, you know, when you get like two swinger couples that are full swapped, it's like, hey, here's my lady, there's my lady. And it's like an even trade. Well, it's like when like when she's only into women, well, that kind of cuts out

a lot of opportunity as far as what I might be able to enjoy because a lot of guys aren't willing to just sit out and be the guy sitting in the corner, not involved, and I wouldn't want to be that guy either. And so it's not wrong or bad. It just sort of changes up the game board a little bit. And you just have to kind of adapt to that and say, okay, well, what are our options with this? Because I don't believe in my wife taking a hit for the team, meaning we're both attracted

to the lady, but, you know, the guy, there's no attraction for June. And June doesn't want to do that regardless. I'm not going to ask her to do that so I can enjoy the lady. And so, you know, because I won't do that, you know, it does cut out a lot of opportunity for, you know, playing with other people. And, you know, I mean, it's it's not that bad of a thing. But, you know, it is kind of like, man, it seems like it really kind of slims up the opportunities. But again, at the same time, we're not in any hurry to try everything out there. We just, we'll try whatever we're comfortable with. There's no finish line. And I'm happy that she's getting to explore this out of herself. You know, but it's nice when everyone involved can kind of, you know, be involved and explore themselves as well. So as a team, you know, we just, you know, we look for opportunities where now we've discovered, we just kind of look for ladies who, uh, who like couples. And we, and we're kind of exploring that since that seems to be more like an ideal fit for our situation, uh, since June's learned more about, you know, she's just for ladies.

So June likes the unicorn. June has no desire to be with other guys. You're, you don't really have the desire to see her with other guys. Really what your perfect scenario is to find. a unicorn to come into your relationship just for hookups? I mean, do you still go to that swing? Have you met anyone at the swingers club? Do you see a lot of unicorns there? Well, we normally go on couples nights because there is like Wednesday nights where they have like the single guys. But we, you know, but it's like.

It's like trying to swap mosquitoes like, all right, get away guys. It's a single guys. It's, it's an interesting dynamic at the club. So most of the people we've met at the clubs have been couples. We have not met very many singles. We just recently found out last week, though, that I guess there was on Friday nights. But again, that's where they let the single guys as well come as well as the single ladies can come, I think, anytime. But single guys is only like twice a week.

But I'm like, I don't want to go on a Friday because I've heard there's even more single guys. And I'm sorry, but you don't ask and you just. try to fucking touch me like no or if like i go to the bathroom i'm gone two minutes and i come back and there's like guys all over the couch and it's like hey motherfucker get on my chair you know and it's like i'm gone two minutes and it's like swarms and i get why they're there if i was a single guy you know i mean it's what we do um so i understand that but june doesn't like that that pressure and she's into ladies and so it kind of makes more sense well i always thought a lot of i mean every swingers club is different. But there are some swingers clubs that won't let single guys in, especially for that

reason, right? But that swingers, like that's single guy night. Is that what that is that there's there? Yes. It's like twice a week where it's like one of the one of the nights is like newbies and single guys can come. And then the other on Fridays is it's just a single guy's night that they can come. But we normally go on Saturdays because then we're not worried about having a deal with, you know, with all the single men. Yeah, married guys are different. I mean, they still do that some, but it's like 90% less.

And now I know that you said that June just learned how to squirt. Did this happen with a girl at the swingers club or at home with John? It happened at the club with our G.I. Joe buddy. So again, I don't have a ton of desire to see a guy do anything with my wife.

But squirting is one thing I've always wondered about. And, you know, June is like, well, it'd be cool to see if I can. And I'm like, yeah, it'd be cool to learn how. Well, G.I. Joe is like, hey, man, I know how to do that. And I'm like, really? He goes, yeah. And his girlfriend's like, yeah. And he's really good at it.

And I'm like, all right. So we're playing in this one room. Well, I had already fucked his girl. Yeah. We fucked a few times with a double dildo. Which you loved. Which I love every time. Okay.

And so we had already done. that and then but I was kind of for some reason that and I was kind of having a hard time getting there and which is very normal for the club for me it's kind of hard for me to like get get all the way there at the club it's just too too much going on too distracting um but after we had fucked for a while then then he offered he's like well I can do that for you and and then yeah Barbie was like yeah he's really good so I looked at John and I was like um I would really love to is that Are you cool? You know, we always ask each other, like, are you good or is that cool to do? Well, and the thing is, you know, the other guy, you know, G.I. Joe, he's very polite, very, always asks, always double confirms. Like, he'll ask her and he'll ask me too, make sure everyone's good. And if not, no big deal. And so when she asked, like, is that okay?

And he asked me, do you mind or whatever? There was no pressure. My whole thing was, well, if she wants to try something, then go for it. I don't mind. And, yeah, sure enough. So afterwards, I'm like, dude, I'm like taking notes. And I'm like, so you did this year. It's something to do with his fingers.

It seems like to be like, it seems like it was like fingers on the G spot back and forth really fast as what it appeared as. And then did that for what, gosh, seven or eight minutes. Very fast. And it was almost kind of like with two fingers like come here motion. So it's like a come here motion with two fingers. but super, super, super fast, in and out, in and out, super, super fast for, yeah, probably seven, eight minutes. And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, my gosh, I think this is happening because I'm feeling

like I have to pee. And that's kind of always what you hear is you feel kind of like you have to pee. Yeah, that's what they say. And so I'm licking one of her nipples because she loves having your nipples legs. And our friend Barbie is licking her other nipple. me and Barbie are looking at each other and looking at her face and looking at each other and we're both going, just let go

just let it happen, just let go. Then we're like, it's just kind of a funny dynamic, but, and so she did. You said that you like to, I mean, you did the double dildo with Barbie. Is she the one that you've been playing with this whole time and what other kinds of things you do?

Yeah, she's the one that primarily I've done quite a bit with. but there was a few like about a month ago maybe we had this girl we were just on the dance floor dancing and and john's thing about when he is the club you have found is he he has this paddle that i absolutely love that he uses on me and it has the word slut on it where do you get all this stuff do they have like listen i've never been to swingers club can you believe it in my show i just talk to people but i don't do anything myself but wait what do they just

have these things laying around or like are these just props they can't because I mean you wouldn't use a double like a double headed dildo is just at the club or just someone bring it with them we got a bag of toys and that we bring I mean the paddle I think I got off Amazon Amazon's our best friend

yeah this this paddle says it has slut engraved on it so when you slap someone's ass it leaves it you know the mark leaves the word slut I love it and what we started realizing was I was I did it to her on the dance floor and everyone's standing around watching like cheering us on and then like one guy's like hey can i borrow it and so he used it on his lady and gave it back to me and so i thought well hey

i don't want to keep it to myself i started offering to every guy on the dance board next thing you know like those their ladies are making out with me then they're making out with her then like this really hot one this lady was like hey you want to go back to one of the rooms and this is like five vodka shots in and lots of paddling and so we learned a good icebreaker so just offer the guys a paddle. You go, hey, you want a paddle of your lady? Yeah. And half of them don't want to do it, but they're like, you can do it.

And I'm like, okay, she's not going to punch me, is she? And then she'll lift her skirt and be like, go to town now. You're you better do it hard. I'm like, okay, whatever you say. And yeah, we make friends very easily that way. Well, well, it started out with when the first time we met G. G.I. Joe and Barbie, it was the third time we had been to the club. and we're upstairs because in the club we're at on the weekends they opened upstairs and it's exactly the same as the bottom part there's a bar there's a dance floor stripper pole so we're up there she's like hey come up stairs with us we're like okay and all of a sudden she like spanks me

with her paddle which he had that said slut on it and i was like oh my gosh so i was like oh my gosh what's that what's oh my gosh describe that like like hot that was hot getting spanked by a girl right you liked it oh my god i remember like afterwards i was like i went up to her i said can you spank me again so she like becomes very dominant when she's playing with girls and so she's like kiss the paddle ask me and ask me nicely so i was like will you please spank my ass again and then i kissed the paddle and then she did and oh my gosh it was so hot and now is the double dildo something that you also brought yourself that was that your guy's toy or that you've used no she well she they brought theirs for the first time her and barby played with it and then uh you know june enjoyed it so much she's on amazon one day and she's like i want one of my

own and so now we bring that in our bag of tricks yes so this last time we did use ours but like the first two or three times that we had done the double dildo it was hers and now June i know that you also consider yourself an exhibitionist now with that i'm assuming that's at the swingers club all the stuff that you've been doing in front of people you love that when people watching you yes i don't know what that's about but i do i i really like there's this room they have that has this big ass round pillow and you can fit probably 12 13 i've heard of that like a large bean bag, right? This one's an actual bed.

Oh, okay. But it's giant round. It's huge. It's probably 12 feet across. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the first time we had met Barbie and G.I. Joe, we went into that room first before we went in the other room with the other couple. It was a smaller room. We were in that room first.

And I had always wanted to go into that room after the, you know, after the first time we had been there. I was like, ooh, that would be fun to go in there. because there's windows all the way around that room. Big ass picture windows. And you can fit like 50 people out in the hallway who can see. And you cannot go in it unless you're playing. Like the bouncers are pretty strict on the rules with that. Like you can't come in because one time we were all playing and like there was like a whole bunch of people inside the room because the outside was so filled.

And the bouncers are like, get out because you can't be in here if you're not playing. You have to be a couple and you have to be playing. Oh, interesting. Okay. first time. Yeah. And so we played in there with them. And so that's kind of where I found out, man, I really like being watched. I mean, I loved looking up and seeing like the windows were filled with people, girls and guys, both just watching. Right. And you dig that. Now, do you have, because I know that it doesn't really work for you guys and John is not into it, it doesn't work for you.

You don't have the desire to be with other guys, your desires to be with other women. Now, I know that you're pushing yourself into being okay with John. You've decided that as long as he's like there and you're there and it's a threesome experience, it's down. Now, John does not play with women at the club by himself, correct? No. No, we got on this to just explore together and our thing is, you know, we're together. Yeah.

And you know what that? Who knows that might develop? Who knows if we have all due point where she's okay with something else? Right now we got into it. way and you know it's fine for us yeah no listen I think at the end of the day it's always that's what I always clap back at these people on YouTube that's like it's not fair it's like it doesn't need to be fair to it's not fair to you because that's what you would want like for you John like I said you were like that guy that I hear from a lot like listen I see my girl you know playing with women you wanted to play

too and that's the that's fair to you guys that's what you guys want but a lot of times in these other couples, they just want to play with guys and the guy doesn't want a girl. So that's right for them. I think it's, what's most important is it's right for the two of you together because you're the couple, you know? Yeah, you just, yeah, you just kind of find what combination works for you, whether it's unicorns or a hot wife scenario. I mean, in that case, like the other guy doesn't want to be involved. You just wants to watch his wife with other people. Yeah. And so it's like, all right, well, we need to go look for those people also because those are people who kind of, you know, are in alignment with kind of what we're wanting to do.

And whether it's the same or different as us, it's in alignment. It kind of fits. And so we kind of know who to focus on now when we're meeting people. Yeah. And one of the couples that we played with, yeah.

And one of the couples that we played with, you know, we brought them into that big round room and we're playing with them. And me and the girl, we're just going at it, taking each other's clothes off and kissing and making out

and doing all the things. Oh, she was fucking hot. Oh, my God. Yeah. She was. I'm like, shit. We didn't get her.

Damn it. That's not Barbie, right? I'm assuming Barbie. No. This is another hot girl. Different hottie. Different one from a different state. And by the time, you know, we came out of our sex combo and they're like, oh, where'd they go?

Got her song again. Damn it. Wait. Are you guys going to send me some picks for my Patreon, but like anonymous one so people could see how hot you guys are? Yeah, we'll send you some pictures. Just non-faced ones. But yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, non-face ones. So wait, so there's that girl. I mean, do you have. have stuff June. I mean, I know you like the double dildo thing that you've done with them. Like, are there some things that you want to do with women that you haven't yet? Or like, what's the hottest thing that you have done? Um, well, for me, the hottest thing is probably the double dildo. Like, man, that's, you like that's pretty hot. What, what did you ask me to teach you how to do the other day driving home? Yeah, a couple weeks ago, I was like, you know, I'm not ready to do

this at this point yet, but it's there the, like, I want to eventually learn how to eat out a girl because after playing with that one girl I just mentioned that we played with, it was out of town, she went down on me, and that was the first time I had ever had a girl go down on me. And it was great, but she had asked if I wanted to do it to her, and I just wasn't ready yet. But I guess I'm wanting him to teach me so that when I am ready, I know what I'm doing. Oh, okay. So you haven't done that yet. No.

So with these girls, you're playing with toys, you're making out, like fondling, that kind of thing? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. I mean, listen, you guys are only two months into it. So I feel like for two months, it sounds like you do have a lot of experiences considering, you know what I mean? I think so.

Yeah. That's what we're told. We kind of like slipped down the edge of the pool and fell in. and we've been enjoying it, yeah. But it also makes sense that when I asked that question, and it's like, no, I haven't done that yet, that there's also some things that you haven't. People have to remember that this is very new at the same time, you know?

I mean, and it's interesting to me because you did say you started a podcast, like, you know, and what is it like people to go on that journey with you? Because it is like your newbies. So what is that, what do you do on your podcast? Yeah. Well, the podcast is called New Swingers Podcast, and we just thought, well, let's just talk about our journey because, you know, with other people we meet, we find that they're asking a lot of the same questions we're asking. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of, like, you know, Swinger, there's a lot of Swinger podcast out there. And there's a lot of good ones.

The thing was, though, like whatever topic they'd be talking about, it would just be sort of from one side of the universe to the other and everything in between. And we thought, you know, we're brand new to this. There's these certain fears, hangups, frustrations, questions. How did people handle these arguments around this? We're probably not the first ones. And we just couldn't find one around specifically like, hey, if you're new to this, here's some of the landmines you might step on. And so here's how we handled it.

Or here's how someone else told us they handled it. So we thought, well, do you just want to document the journey for fun? And then we can talk about the lessons. we learn along the way that can be helpful for other people. And we haven't advertised it or anything. And it's only been out like just over a month. And there are thousands of fucking downloads on this thing. Again, we haven't marketed or anything.

And so like there's a lot of people responding to this. And we just thought, well, if we can share what we learned and help somebody else, it's kind of like the podcast we wish would have existed when we decided to go to the club that first time. And here are some of the battles you might face. Here's how we got through it. And because it's been such a short amount of time, there have been several arguments we've had because there has been. Oh, I love that. And do you take, wait, but do you work it out on your show?

And is that what people go through with you? Because I think that that's super interesting. We do. Well, we don't argue and work it out on the show. Once we work through an issue. Right, right. Then we talk about it on this show. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would be frustrating just to hear the argument with no resolution. But you guys do, though, document those issues that you're going along the way. which I think is super interesting. Well, we found everyone kind of has, or everyone, I mean, a lot of people are having those same or very similar types of arguments over those insecurities and issues.

And it's just helpful to hear someone else say, hey, we went through that too. You're not alone. Yeah. And then it's like, well, here's the thing that unlocked it for us. And like, we would have saved like five knockdown, drag out arguments, not physically, not literally, but huge arguments if there would have been like one or two things we we just would have like thought of or somebody would have said that whole that whole thing about June being there as I'm playing with the lady as long as she's playing with her too oh my god there would have been like three or four of the five big arguments we've had that we probably never would have had and so we're strong enough in our relationship to like get through that storm we never doubted that but boy it would have been nice to just not have those yeah and then one of those that we had, you know, it led to me, me figuring out that I like, I like John dominating me. Like I like calling me, like I like calling him daddy and I like wearing, I found out, I like wearing a collar and leash to the club.

Mm-hmm. You're a little submissive. Yes. And I love it. Mm-hmm. Well, I have to say, I just clicked into my podcast app and it's funny. my computer must be listening to me. There was your podcast right next to my new swingers podcast, John and June. And listen to this fucking episode they got.

This is the title. Number 14. New Swingers Q&A and in parentheses. Plus June blows John on air. Oh my God. And you're wondering why you have fucking lots of downloads? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

And I do every fucking episode. I didn't know if she was going to do it. I'm like, hey, what are you doing? Oh, you can do that. Oh, my God. You have to put plus June blows John on air after every single title. That is fucking hilarious. So what do you do?

What does that mean? What are people, if someone tunes in because, you know, pitch it. You know, people are going to go wanting to listen to this after I just said that. What are they going to hear? Are you blowing him? What do you mean? Yes. Well, I, well, we do every episode when we do,

our podcast. We do every episode naked. Like, we don't wear any clothes. And most of the episodes, we've had like a little bit of vodka before we do them. So we're really loose and, and, and even probably more honest and fun than we are without all that. And I, yeah, I just randomly, I think it was like the first or, I don't know, second or third, like, episode. And I just was like, huh, I'm just going to, like, start sucking on him right now. Well, then he holds the microphone down so you can hear that. I didn't need to. The microphone was that good.

Oh my goodness. And that was something she did on her own. So I thought, well, hey, that should get so much attention. But that was all hurt. But wait, when I was just talking to you in the beginning and we were getting the sound down, you're like, oh yeah, we have a microphone here because of our jobs. Is it because of your fucking podcast? That's why you have a microphone. No, no, there's other things I do with our studio equipment.

Oh, okay. The main microphone I use because the other one I use for the other stuff is more for one person, but this one is for multiple people, yeah. Oh, okay. And then I saw that, and I'll maybe edit this up, but I saw that you did email me. Like, how do you change voices? I want to know this for some other reason. But do you want to know it for your podcast?

Do you change your voice on your podcast? Do you want me to change your voice here? Well, I do a lot with, like, I'm amateur video editing. I'm always interested in that kind of stuff more as a hobby. But we also did consider like, well, should we change your voices for that? and I'm like, well, how do you do that? So I don't know how you do it. But now I'm just going to like, well, why now?

You emailed me asking. It was for multiple reasons, yeah. Right, right. I remember, but I'm just going to tell you, and anyone listening to this, I'm going to tell you straight up to you because I'm very direct. When I got that email, I'm like, this person probably has a podcast and they want to do it. But instead of saying that, they're going like, they're making it more vague. And then on purpose, I'm not going to fucking answer you.

Like, be specific. Say, like, what are you hiding it for? It makes you sound. fucking shady. Say to somebody if you want that, say, hey, I'm starting a podcast, it has to do with swingers and I want to change voices sometimes maybe. Can you tell me how you do it? That's a lot better than the person that tries to act

like, oh, I have some sort of weird project. I forget how you phrased it, but I remember the email exactly and I'm like, fuck you. I'm not answering that. I mean, come on. That's just a little psychology 101. You just sound fucking shady and that's like a weird thing to be shady about. Just be straight up. Yeah. No. Yeah, no, it actually was for multiple reasons.

I didn't realize that it came off that way, but I totally see what you mean by that. Yeah, you know what I mean. And I got to tell you, the great thing about podcasts, I have to tell you straight up, is that in this community, like, people are just very open and generous and everybody is, like, on each other's sides. There's like, it's not like, there's no really sort of competition. I don't find. I find it to be a very cool open space where everybody is cool with everybody. So just know that, you know. I'm glad to hear that.

That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how you should be. That's how everybody operates in this space, at least the people that I've come across, and that's the way to be. Like I said, you would have got an answer if you would have been straight up. But because you weren't, I was like, I don't, I'm not going to get, I'm not going to

be straight up with you either. You know, you get what you give. But I love that you give John a blowjob every day. I'm going to be that generous podcaster that I say everybody is. I love promoting other people. I think it's great. I love what I do. I'm glad that you're doing it.

I think it's a very interesting. angle that you guys have going, you know, as far as a newbie couple, a lot of the other swingers that are out there, they have great podcasts, I think, but they're more professional and they're teaching from a much more, you know, after doing this for 10 years and it's a different kind of a thing, whereas some people can maybe go on the journey with you. And I think that that's interesting because it is a little bit new. Yeah, just the beginning issues, we would have to search and search and search to find anything. And then listen for 30, 60, 90 minutes and hope they address it.

And some put it in the title and description, but then they don't really address it or they did. But it wasn't what you're looking for. Or what you need. Right, right. Yeah. For you, you, that's what you guys really, that's what anyone knew because you guys are still new and you remember what it's like. And I think that that's why you're perfect for those people because you're right there with them. And you're not.

Because I think sometimes maybe someone's been doing something for 20 years, they forget what a newbie would want to hear. and they don't want to focus on that so much, you know, because they have a very different perspective of things. So I think what's interesting about your show is, yeah. Yeah, well, sometimes you forget, you know, like in any career or any endeavor. Like you said, if you're an expert, you did forget, like you said, what it's like in the beginning. And so it can be hard.

It's almost like you have to surround yourself with brand new people if you want to teach something. Well, we are the brand new people. So we just sort of document it and it's kind of relevant. Now, are you on the deal on your podcast? Are you open to anybody about your life? for, you know. No, we're very discreet. We're very secret with it.

So that picture isn't you on the thing. You have a picture of two people grabbing each other's asses. Yeah, that's not us. That's not us. Yeah. But they ain't bad looking people either. Right. So you guys are on the DL.

You have this podcast. I'll link to it for people to listen. Oh, thank you. Now, you know, in six months when you want to do another episode, we have a lot more experience under your belt, call back. And I'll have you on. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Yeah, glad to help you're out in any way we can as well.

Well, you know, good luck on your endeavors. I think people should go check out your podcast. I know that I have a lot of people that listen to my show that are looking for information because they're just dipping their toes in. So, you know, you guys are a great place to go and because you're going to make it go on the journey with you. Absolutely. Yeah.

All right. So thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. John and June, the new swingers podcast. Yeah, I'll put a link to your show. in the episode and I'll let you know. I don't know when it's going to air because I have like 30 episodes already taped you, who knows, but within the next month or so for sure. Okay. Awesome. Okay. Good luck. Thanks so much for calling in, you guys. Yeah. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to follow the show,

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