Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 552 - Jay's Hotwife has a Couple Long Term Boyfriends
Episode Date: November 9, 2022Jay is a cuck and his wife has a couple long term boyfriends and he called in to talk all about it. When did he realize he was a cuck? When did they open up their marriage? And what exactly gos down b...etween his wife and her boyfriends?? Tune in for all the details which include his take on how and why he has been successful being cuckolded, what’s really in it for him, how he brought up her becoming a hotwife and how she reacted at first, their experiences at swingers clubs and why they don’t enjoy swinging, how and why he enjoys her paying solo as well as playing with them at their house, where he how she hooked up with one of her boyfriends on their anniversary and exactly what went down, their threesomes and foursomes, stranger sex at a party and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of Jay's wife + anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today, and just so you know, Patreon, my Patreon has so many picks of so many of my guests,
including Jay's wife, Jay's hot wife.
She knows that he's on the show.
She knows that he talks about her on the show.
So he is sending me in a pick of her.
Jay's a cuckold.
He first talks to me about Scott's episode.
If you haven't listened to that one, go listen.
That's a cuckold story gone wrong.
This is a cuckold story gone right.
I had him come on an answer,
couple questions and talk a little bit about Scott's episode at first. So we talk a little bit about
that episode and then we get into his story. Jay's a cuckold. She, he had an anniversary recently
and after many years of being with his hot wife and she fucked one of her guys. And it's funny because
his wife has had two long-term guys on the side, like boyfriends, you would say, in
quotes because she's married to him, but she's got these guys on the side. He's a true cuckled. He loves
her to go and fuck other guys. He's not true in the sense that he wants to be humiliated or
anything like that. No, it just, he just likes his girl to go out and be slutty and fuck other guys
and enjoy them. And she has these guys and he calls them number one and number two. And then
there's like a number three and then he tells me all these experiences they've had. But really,
He starts off with their anniversary experience. Two of them were on their anniversary. She went and
fucked other guys and he just loves it. I mean, he he loves nothing more than his wife to be
pleasureed by another guy. He likes sometimes to be sloppy seconds. He likes to watch. He likes
sometimes to be involved. She could play solo. They do all of the above. They tried swinging and
hooking up with other couples. They've had some foursums. He explains why that stuff didn't
work for them. What really works for them is him being the cuck and her being the hot wife.
Her seeing her guys whenever she wants. She's got those long-term guys, like I said, he talks about
their relationship, you know, the guys, whether they're married or not, he does get into
how they got started and how they decided to open up their marriage and why it works for them.
He does talk about, like I said, them going to Swingers Clubs in the beginning and
why couple sex with other couples and like the whole foursome thing just never really
worked for them and how the cuckled hot wife her banging other people really does work.
His fantasy was always her with two guys.
He talks about why he's not interested in having two girls and all that good stuff.
And then he tells a couple hot stories at the end.
But it's super interesting because this is a couple that has been doing this for a very long time.
they're very successful at it.
There's no conflicts for either one of them at all.
I mean, she was reluctant at first.
She, like anybody, other woman was very weary of the fact of like how very, she was very,
like any other woman was very concerned that he wouldn't be able to handle the fact
that she'd go and have someone else.
But he's totally fine with it.
And he does explain, you know, how that goes back to when he was.
very young. He talks about a couple experiences he had when he was very young that really paint the
picture of the cuck that he became and what he was really into because he was into it from the get-go.
So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Jay. Hi, Jay. Listen, back to the anonymous podcast.
You've been on before, Jay, right? Yes, I am. But I want your story. And I also want your two cents on the
episode I just posted because I posted an episode recently. Scott, just last Wednesday a week ago,
it's episode 450 or 449. I'll put a link to that episode if you haven't heard it yet. It's very
controversial. I knew it would be. It got a lot of people talking a lot and I knew it. I mean,
I had to tell the poor guy like, listen, prepare yourself, you know, because the comments on YouTube
can be a little crazy because you're going to hear all sides of it. But,
But his episode really sparked a lot of people talking about the whole cuckled situation.
And I thought to myself, who's, you know, the opposite story than Scott.
Scott is a cuckled who lost his wife to one of the bulls.
You are a cuckled whose wife has had two long-term relationships, not relationships,
but booty calls with guys.
So like, how does that work with you?
And it doesn't work with him.
It's such like the opposite story, but it's so interesting.
and I do like on my show to show all sides of things.
But I thought maybe I would get your, before we get your story,
and that's going to come after this, you know, we're going to do all that.
But what I want to get is your take on Scott's situation.
Because, you know, what I felt like I thought what he did wrong was, you know,
I spoke about it on the episode.
But after listening to his episode, as a cuck who allows his wife to go and see other people,
what do you think happened there?
he wasn't successful, but you have been for a long time.
Well, I'm glad you asked that question because I listened to that and I was fascinated by it.
I think if there was a mistake made, it was the mistake that happened before any cuck holding actually happened.
It happened when he said that he was ill and wasn't able to perform and his wife had an affair.
So I can see where that would turn a lot of guys on.
I think that would turn me on.
Yeah.
And I don't think that they gave themselves any time to heal.
He went right into this fantasy because he had had this fantasy from what I gathered from him.
And he kind of talked to her right into going into other guys.
And there was something missing, I think, in that relationship before they ever got started.
And people that are going to go into cuck holding or men that are going to have their wives have sex with other men,
if they're doing it because there's some glitch in their relationship, it just isn't going to work in my experience.
Right.
We didn't have that issue.
We have a very good, strong relationship then.
And we have a very good strong relationship now that's lasted for a good number of years.
And she, my wife, has never gotten emotionally involved with any of the men that she's ever been with.
It's been strictly a sexual thing.
Not that they don't like one another because you can't be with somebody for 18 and 15 years.
Those are her two boyfriends and not like them.
It would just be impossible.
They get a long fine.
Yeah, that's why your story to me is so perfect to air right after his as another example of how it can go right because you would think that the worst thing you could do and that would just show.
this kind of situation is let your wife see a guy all the time. You know what I mean? But here is
a guy like you and your wife, she's got these boyfriends for a long time and there still hasn't
been any kind of crossing the line. And I think a lot of that has to do. And you tell me if you're,
I'm right, because you did agree with me about the fact that they just swept the whole cheating
thing under the table and got too quickly into the cuckolding thing. But the fact that they,
stopped coming together and having like reclaiming sex or being with each other and he was very
cuckled and and told to sit on the side and you can't do anything and then they stopped having sex
for many many years I that's that's absolutely true and when you mentioned that to him I think even he
recognized that my wife and I are very sexual matter of we had a about a two-hour romping the
hay just yesterday yeah it was it was fantastic it was one of the I was
was actually able to screw her about three times in one session.
That was a lot of fun for me, especially as I'm getting on in a little bit of age.
But we always reconnect somehow, some way.
And where the fantasy of being denied access to your wife's pussy might be a mind-blowing fantasy for a cuckold,
the reality of that is if you don't have sex in the relationship,
if you don't have that relationship, that relationship is going nowhere.
And he thought he had it, but she did.
He was the last one to find out, unfortunately.
I felt very bad for him.
Yeah, me too.
And I got the feeling that he's probably a guy that is going to be cuckolded by another woman.
And I just hope it works out better for him.
I really do.
And what do you say, though, to the guys?
This is another reason why I thought you were like a great spokesperson as a cuckold that went right.
Because, you know, you've been on my show, like I said before, and I know you.
I personally know what you do for a living on the deal.
I'm not going to announce it, okay?
But I know what you do.
And that was another reason
I was like, oh, here's a cuckold that
is going to speak to all these people
that say like no man
that would ever let another guy
fuck his wife is a real man.
Okay? You're a real man.
I am.
And if anything, I think that's one of the reasons
why I'm very rarely over present
is I intimidate the hell out of the guys
that she comes up with, you know?
because frankly, I'm kind of a kick-ass guy.
And, you know, it's just so much fun to watch her.
That's all I can say.
I have a really good time.
But I'm very an alpha kind of a guy in just about everything I do.
But nobody believes that.
That's what's so interesting to me.
That was the other thing that I wanted you to just give a shout out.
Like, what do you?
Like, you know, I could sit there and explain it all I can.
And I love to have these conversations back to people commenting and try to get them to see
other sides of things.
And, you know, listen, I love the fact that Scott came on and shared her story because I'm sure there's many people that have that story.
I have had a lot of successful people on that are successful at it.
That's why I'm going to share your story now.
But I also wanted you to talk to those people that say, like, you're not a man.
Like a lot of men that could never allow their wife to be with them.
They think it's like, you know, unmanly.
I don't know.
They do.
And my personal take on that is that men are very.
very insecure. I'm not insecure. You know, there's that old story. If you have a little bird,
let it fly away. If it loves you, it'll come back. And I am not worried about my wife's
trying. She's the most loyal person on the face of the earth. I'm very secure in my sexuality.
I'm very secure in my abilities. I'm very secure in just about every aspect of my life that I can
think of. So for me, it's a sign of strength, not a sign of weakness. And I don't think men quite get
that. That's why I think they become controlling idiots. They become stalkers. They become the kind of
person that your mother warned you about. Stay away from him. He's bad news for you. You know,
and I think that men that are secure in themselves and don't have jealousy issues,
jealousy is nothing more than I think anger turned inwards.
So that's just my personal take on it.
Yeah.
I think the jealous people are insecure.
Yeah, but what else?
The last thing that I wanted you to talk on is the fact that a lot of times the comments
I get, even if the couple is successful at cuckolding, is why doesn't he get to be with other
women. That's not fair. Well, who said that life has to be fair for one thing. Secondly,
I don't necessarily, I have that permission. Some guys don't have that permission because their wives
are jealous. Okay, it's, cuck holding has got to be about her. It can't be about him. I like to
see my wife have a good sexual time with a guy. And when I say, see, I don't watch it that often, but when I
do. I'm kind of like the
Doseki
commercial guy, you know.
It's phenomenal to watch, but
when she comes home with a smile on her
face, if she's been with somebody, like
you'll hear as I get on into this
story, that's just phenomenal
for me. I just
love to see her have fun
and have pleasure, and it's
just a, it's such a sexual
turn on. I want her more.
Right. And even though you have a free
pass, do you see a lot
women? No, I don't. Exactly. That's my point with you. That's why I love for you to say because a lot of times it's easy for
people to get stuck on the guy whose wife maybe feels like she's not into that, but she'll go fuck other guys. And the guys like,
okay, I'm fine with that. I don't care. You know, I typically, I typically find that cucks, what really gets them off,
the variety that a lot of guys are craving that need a lot of women. They get that variety need met by their
wife being with other guys. Absolutely. I agree with that 100%. Right. And so you, you are like,
you could have other women and you don't. Like what you're the most into top of the mountain for you is
your wife with another woman, with another guy. Sorry. Well, that wouldn't bother me either.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not something she's into. So, but no, when she's with somebody, when she's having
fun, when she looks at a guy and we're out and she goes, man, that guy's really cute. I'd do him.
That's a frigging turn on for me.
That just really is.
And unfortunately, I get a lot more eye candy than she does.
Because a lot of guys don't have any care at all in their personal appearance.
You know, you spend nine hours getting ready to go out of the date.
Most guys spend nine minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyways.
Yeah.
I really felt bad for Scott.
He just, and it's not a matter of control.
Somebody said, I'd control my wife.
well really how are you going to do that you know she's not yours to control she's a she's an
independent strong-willed person that's going to do what she's going to do and take care of her own
unique needs and not only that I'm sorry but there are certain personality types me included if
I feel like I'm being controlled I want to rebel against that so maybe you know that guy's wife is
fucking cheating on him so I don't know you mean like I don't know like you know no one should really
try to control anyone because eventually that backfires.
Yes, it does. I had somebody asked me the other day, do you pick them out for your wife or
does she pick them out? And I said, well, I vet them sometimes, but it's always her decision.
And when I send whoever might contact us, I say, this is a potential. Because I know what
she, what kind of body style she likes. And she looks for personality more than anything.
So I let her do her own picking, and she's pretty damn good at it.
Yeah, well, listen, everybody.
I finally have some anonymous picks of Jay and his wife.
They're on my Patreon.
Now you're going to hear his story, his whole story, about those two boyfriends,
about their recent hookup and their anniversary and all that kind of good stuff.
Okay, but thanks for just like taping this and giving the two cents.
I'm going to air this before your story because I thought it was such an interesting thing,
and I wanted you to speak for Scott.
Give him a little hope that, you know,
if he has another relationship,
he can do it right by listening to your story.
And that just because he did this,
that's not the reason why it went south.
It was just maybe a couple missteps,
but it's not like a cuckled scenario
can't work out at all.
I've heard it many times that it can,
but it can go wrong like his.
So, you know, thank you for coming on and speaking to it.
And now we're going to get to your story.
Thank you.
Hi, Jay.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
How are you this morning?
I'm doing well and how are you?
Good.
So listen, Jay, I don't remember if I got your exact titles.
With all the labels out there nowadays,
what would you label the open relationship
you and your wife have and still have and have had for so long?
Well, I think the best way to describe it would be a consensual cuckle relationship
for the most part.
A consensual cuckle, meaning you're both.
You both cuckle each other.
No, no, she just cuckled me.
I don't cuckled her.
Oh, okay.
You don't like to see other people.
I don't.
Usually, I have, but, you know, with her permission, of course, we've done some swinging.
That wasn't our thing.
It didn't work out.
Trying to find four people that match up is just something we didn't like.
So eventually it was going to be threesomes, but a lot of times she feels more
comfortable being by herself and I'm okay with that so we just let her do whatever she needs to do
wow and she has long-term boyfriends correct she does she has two one I think for almost 19 years and
one for somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 16 I think she sees them occasionally they both live
out of state so when they are on business trips and they get into town then they will call her up for
a proverbial booty call.
One she will stay overnight with
and she has
spent nights
with him in the hotel and the other one.
It's just a
hit and run type of thing, you know.
And now since she's been seeing both of those
for so long, I mean, what are those
guys' stories? Like, do they have wives?
Are they in open relationships?
They both have wives
and to the best of our knowledge.
Their wives don't know about it.
We have no intention of telling them.
Right, right.
Because she never calls them.
She always waits for them to call her.
So she never tries to get in touch with them.
It's strictly a, you know, a sexual thing.
I'm sure that they're friends because you can't have, you know,
a sexual relationship with somebody for 18 years
and not have some kind of feelings for one another.
But it's, but I don't think it goes any farther than just friendship and fuck buddies, you know.
And now you had an anniversary recently.
and that's what you wrote in about
let's get that story
and then I want to go back and get like
the story of your beginning and stuff
because I think it's super interesting.
Okay, so
to tell you about this anniversary
that just happens back in August,
I really need to go back
about two or three years
this, I call them
number one and number two because
she met one guy first and the other guy
second. It has nothing to do with their
status in life, but number
two happened to call and say he was going to be in town and it happened to have been a day of our
anniversary and he was staying in a hotel you know not too far from us about an hour drive away
so we drove down there and she was wearing a nice little white outfit you know it's like
kind of like a wedding outfit you know she had something borrowed something blue you know all that
yeah that wedding stuff anyways they they met in the parking lot i was driving
her he took her upstairs to to the his room and I went went into the hotel and
actually had breakfast while they were up there and so they they fucked and then she
came down and got back in the car I was already back in the car by that time and it was
just one of these really hot occurrences I was so turned on that I drove behind
another building and parked actually was there was a big dump
story parked behind that so nobody could see us and we jumped in the back seat and she climbed on top of me
and of course her pussy was full of his come and so i got a nice sloppy seconds and i must have come in
about 30 seconds you know because it was so hot and then we went to breakfast so that's one of those
things that you can't it just it happens once and then it's not going to happen again so
this party that we were at several months ago,
she had met this guy at this same group gathering
a couple of years before, but then COVID happened.
Well, she had given him a blowjob one night.
He never came, but she was giving him a blowjob.
And she's very shy.
She does not like, she'll, like, give a guy a blowjob
while other people watch, but she won't let anybody do anything to her.
And so we were at this get together.
And see, he's a really nice guy, good-looking guy, very friendly, very professional.
He's a professional.
I'm not going to mention his profession because I wouldn't want to do anything to give
anything away.
But so, like I said, she had given him a blowjob once before.
So he winds up taking her into a room.
And I kind of followed a couple of minutes.
And he's actually fucking her.
a crowd watching and this is the first time she has ever done anything like that it was really hot
i mean she was having a good time too and he was he was giving her a really good pussy pounding
she likes it that way and uh so they finished their did their thing we left the party and uh
our anniversary was coming up and i said you know wouldn't it be fun if we had i'll call him
Joe. No, I like number one and number two. Who we's talking about? We're still number two, right? Yeah.
No, this would be number three. This is a totally different. Oh, okay. I like the numbers. Okay, number three.
Number three. Yeah. So wouldn't it be fun if, you know, if we invited him for anniversary? She said, yeah, that'd be really hot.
So there's a really elegant hotel nearby where we live. It's one of those few hotels that's owned by the same family since the 1940s.
It's just a really grand palatial type of place, and it's right on the ocean.
So we got a room, and he drove down.
He lives a couple hours from us.
He drove down.
We went to lunch and then drove to the hotel.
My wife drove with him.
I checked into the hotel, and I said, I'm waiting for my wife to show up.
And I said, how many keys do you need?
I said, three.
And the girl said, okay, I'll give you three keys, you know.
So I went up to the room, and I guess they had lost me in traffic someplace on the interstate.
And so I'm thinking it's going to take them a while to get here.
So I started to call her.
I said, you know, how long is it going to be?
She said, oh, we're in the lobby now.
They went into the lobby.
My wife said, my husband just checked in.
The girl says, oh, yeah, I gave him three keys.
Well, she's holding hands with this guy.
Oh, my goodness.
That was kind of funny.
Anyways, he came up to the room and they got down to business right away.
And I kind of joined in a little bit, but she was having too much fun by herself.
So I just kind of backed off.
And so he fucked her.
And then he fucked her some more.
And then he fucked her some more.
And then by that time, it's getting almost close to dinner time.
So there was a place that we had gone to.
And I said, let's go up there for dinner.
and this was a place where she and I had gone on our first date.
And it's also on the water, but it was just a few miles from where the hotel was.
So we drove up there, got a table by the, actually on the water,
and had a really nice dinner and then went back to the hotel.
And he and my wife slept in his same bed.
I slept in the next bed.
And so I woke up in the morning, and I get up real hard.
anyway so I went to go get coffee and there was no coffee in the hotel so I
found a little coffee shop not too far away that was open 24 hours and got a cup
of coffee and I came back when I walked in the room they were fucking again you
know so that was that was pretty and then they needed coffee so I said well I'll
go get you some coffee so I went got some coffee when I came back they were
fucking again and so so far I haven't had any pussy all
weekend right and uh because he has it he's had he had he had her for our anniversary yeah so he
went in to take a shower and uh my wife drops to her knees and i get a blow job and just as i'm
coming in her mouth he comes out of the shower and he goes and i was really hollering so and uh he said
well it looks like somebody's having a good time i said yeah and uh anyways he had to get back he had some
some things to attend to. So we all packed up and headed out and went to a nice, my wife and I went to a
nice place and had a really nice breakfast again at a place at another hotel that was on the beach.
So it was a really enjoyable time for the entire weekend. So it was a lot of fun.
That was the most recent anniversary? Yes, it was.
So you were kind of able to create that thing now? I mean, do you think like going forward,
you're going to try to like, you know, have number four, number five.
You know, anniversary is going to be this, you know, that's code for.
Let's get the other guy.
If that could happen, that would be a lot of fun, yes.
Yeah.
I really would.
And I mean, listen, the fact that you guys celebrate your anniversary with her like fucking somebody else kind of is, you know, signifies your relationship.
Because you guys have been doing this for a very long time.
That's true.
Like how long?
How many years has it been since you guys?
had an open this open relationship.
I guess since about, I'm going to take a wild guess since about 2002, 2003.
Right.
So over 20 years, you've been successful at it.
It totally works.
How did you get to the place where you were able to figure out exactly what it is that you guys
were into?
Because you said, you know, swinging didn't work for us.
And then we thought it was threesomes.
I mean, you seem to have it figured out now for sure exactly what you guys are into.
but you did try other things at first.
We did.
And, you know, the way it started is like, I guess I'm not going to say every couple,
but I think a lot of couples get into a discussion at some point in their marriage about,
you know, the average guy has a fantasy of wanting to do two girls at once.
Yeah.
I think that's pretty much just about every guy's ultimate fantasy.
I mean, I've thought about it, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
and it doesn't make any sense because I can hardly handle one girl, let alone two.
And like you seem to be a really sexual person.
My wife's a very sexual person.
And if the two or you were in bed with me together at the same time, it's like, I wouldn't know what to do.
Where to go, right, too much work.
It just would be too much work, you know.
But it only seems to make more sense for two guys than a girl, you know,
because girls sometimes take a little bit longer.
And they like being the center of attention anyway.
So, you know, I mean, when couples go out, especially now, the girl always dressed to the nines,
the guy looks like a bum, you know?
It always seems to be like that.
You know, the guy I put on a ratty t-shirt and a pair of shorts, and the girl's got a club dress on.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you've probably been there and done that, you know.
Yeah.
And, you know.
So what was that conversation?
Because you said, like, every couple has that conversation.
Well, we were talking.
I don't know.
I mean, we might have seen a show.
something where there was two guys in a or me two girls and a guy and you know he just kind of said
i looked at i said you know that doesn't make any sense to me it makes more sense for two guys
and a girl and she kind of looked at me like a dog stirring at a clock and then we'd talk about
and i said yeah i'd be okay with that and she'd like looked at me like no you wouldn't you know
yeah so we kept talking about it and uh so this is how she really figured out that i would be okay
because she was always a little bit leery that I would get jealous and go off to deep end, you know.
So one night we were at a hotel, was down near the beach, but it wasn't on the beach.
It was a very nice hotel.
And we were having dinner with a guy that I had met online.
He was in the same line of work that I was in.
So we were able to have some mutual conversations.
And he and his wife had tried swinging.
So we thought, well, maybe we'll hook up with this couple, you know.
And anyways, we hadn't hooked up with anybody at the time.
And anyways, my wife had to get up and go to the ladies' room.
And she walked by, there happened to have been a naval aircraft carrier in town.
And there were three naval aviators dressed in their white uniforms.
And she's a sucker for any guy in a uniform.
I think a lot of women are.
And as she walked by him, one of the guys, she doesn't know Navy ranks, but he was a full commander.
And he stepped off his stool and kind of like stood in front of her.
And she looked at him and smiled.
And he looked at her and smiled.
And she kind of walked around him and went to the ladies' room.
And as she was coming back, he did the same thing.
And he said, are you following me?
And she didn't know, you know, what to say.
And I'm thinking, oh, God, I hope she does this guy, you know.
I would have given her the car keys and taken a cab home.
Right.
And she came over to the table and this friend of ours, he wasn't with his wife,
who's thinking that he's going to get a chance at her.
He eventually did years later or a year later or so.
But he wasn't up to her standards.
And so when he was, as we left him, we were driving home.
And I said, you know, you got flirted with pretty serious.
She said, I know.
She said, I wanted to fuck that guy.
He was so hot.
And I said, well, why didn't you?
She said, I didn't know what to say.
And I said, I said, you should have said you were following his contrales when he said that to you.
She wasn't quick on the uptake.
So when I told her that, I guess she kind of like knew that I wasn't, I was very serious.
And we had also been in New York City.
was during the early fall.
And we were going over to buy some tickets for one of the Broadway shows.
And I got the tickets at the ticket window, and I started to walk across the street, and I was jaywalking.
And there was a Manhattan...
That's allowed.
Yeah, right.
There was a Manhattan cop that kind of look at it.
And I know he was going to come over and say something about me walking across the street, because you're really not supposed to do that in Manhattan.
Yes, you are.
You're totally like that.
loud.
So anyways, my wife runs over.
She didn't have a brawn.
She's kind of a small cute pit.
But she went over and got in front of the officer, said,
can you tell us how to get to someplace?
And he's looking at her breast.
You know, it's like they don't talk, but, you know, he's looking there.
He never takes his eyes off of her, and he points down the street.
He goes, yeah, I walk two blocks to the left,
and then you'll see it right on the right hand side.
She's so, thank you.
She's batting her eye lashes and flirting.
So by the time we got back to the hotel, we were ripping each other's clothes off.
And I said, God, you wanted to do him, didn't you?
She said, yes.
So I think she started figuring out that I was really serious about this.
And how did you know that you wouldn't mind yourself?
I mean, I know that she had her reservations, but did you wonder at all about yourself?
Like, how will I actually feel?
Or did you know for sure that even when it happened?
Because sometimes, you know, something could be hot.
as a fantasy, but maybe in reality, it's a different situation. I mean, how did you, so you had no
reservations about it? I had no reservations. When I was 16 years old, I was dating a girl.
And her family would come down to Florida for the summer. Her father worked, he was an advertising executive
in a major city in the north, and I won't go into any more than that. But I had taken a
to an amusement park and dinner.
She was like the first date that I actually ever had.
I had just gotten my driver's license.
I had a car.
So we went to this date.
And I think I spent every dime that I had that night,
which was like, you know, $22 back then.
But that was a week's pay for me.
And so I had a really good friend.
And he took his date to the same place like two weeks later.
And he had met this girl that I was dating.
We were kind of like, you know, back then it sounds stupid.
because you don't even hear it today,
but we were going steady, you know.
And he said, you know,
she was at the amusement park with this guy.
And I went, well, that bitch, you know.
But secretly I was like,
geez, I wonder if he got any pussy.
Because we had, we hadn't fucked.
And so I'm pretending to be upset
because that's what you're supposed to do.
But I was secret, I was so fucking turned down.
I probably went home and masturbated.
I don't remember that for certain.
But I remember.
driving over by her
place, she lived on a canal
and there was a park
across the street and I would climb up
in this tree and just hope that I would spot
him going there because I wanted to see
them kissing or holding hands or doing
something. So I guess from
an early age I just knew
that I was into that
and it even goes back farther
than that when I was a kid growing up to was
a girl in our neighborhood
that my friend and I would
occasionally have sex with in the back of
a tent in our backyard.
So one of my earliest experiences
was watching my friend fuck this girl
and I thought it was really hot.
Oh, wow. So maybe that would
wire you that way. I think if like, you know,
when you're super horny like that.
Yeah, I'm just wired
that way. I have no jealousy whatsoever.
Right. So it's
very easy
for me and I love to
watch the expressions on her face
that she's getting laid.
It's just, it's fun and it's erotic.
it really is and I'm okay with it if she's
if she's by herself I don't have to be present
and sometimes she'll give me some of the details
but not all the details and I think that it's really hot
so she was nervous at first
what was that first experience
well number one
the number one guy
that she met had a
I can't go into a lot of detail
because I wouldn't want anything to come back to him.
But he wanted to meet her at a place,
and he had claimed to be a certain member of a certain occupation.
And she asked me about it, and I said, he sounds legit.
And where she was going was she was going to have to go through a security process to get in.
And she said, do you think of it?
it's safe and I said for you it's very safe
for him it's not so safe
and so she went down there
on her own
and wound up
having sex with him in his office
but where did you find this guy
I mean like here you are
she's our first time
you know did you guys go on online
at that point and start looking for guys
for her to fuck because you knew you were into this
no back when
you remember when AOL had
chat rooms
she had he had contacted her in this aOL chat room
and they had gotten up a conversation and she talked to me about him
and I said yeah go for it
and she said you're sure you're okay with it I said yeah I'm fine with it
and so I think there was one guy before him
if I remember he was a fireman
and I happen to have been on a trip
and I was out of town and she said
she wanted to hook up with this guy
and I said yeah go go for it
and she had made a promise I was
in a training session
where for the job that I had
it wasn't going well she said
well if you get your head out of your rest and
finish this training she said I'll do this three
seven you're talking about
and I said okay so she had met this guy
and so
I said
why don't you try him by yourself just to make sure that you're okay with it she said all right and she did
and uh i never met him i have no idea that we was she only got with him that one time i guess and uh
like i said she's a sucker for a guy in a uniform and he was a guy in a uniform so it uh it worked out
pretty good for her and then it worked out for you because she's coming back and telling you the
details and that's what you get out of it yes and what i really like is the fact that i think a
A lot of wives might do this for their husbands and they don't really like it.
But knowing that she wants to go off by herself and tells me that she's doing it for her,
which makes it very exciting for me.
Right.
Like you know she's just super horny and wants to fuck other guys, and that works for you.
It does, right?
Because she's a very, I love the fact that she embraces her sexuality and it's not afraid of it.
And we have a great sex life.
I mean, as long as we've been together, we have a great sex life.
It's not like I'm not getting any pussy.
It's just there's nothing broken in our marriage.
I think somebody, we were at a, we have a friend that was playing in a band,
and we were dancing and everything, and somebody took a little video of it and said,
Well, you two were really in love with each other.
How long a girl even asked her if we were married?
Wow.
You know, because we've got that dull in the headlights look, you know.
Right, still really so into each other.
We really are, yeah.
And I think that's the thing that a lot of people don't understand about people like us
that have these alternative relationships is that we can have a very close relationship.
There's nothing broken about our marriage.
we've hardly ever had a disagreement.
I mean, and the ones we have are usually silly.
It's like when the electricity goes out, I get really cranky.
You know, and I become a tyrant.
But right, but it has nothing to do, like it's nothing deep,
and it hasn't created any kind of distance.
It's, if anything, like you said,
you're that couple that people are like, wow,
they're just so into each other still.
Yeah, and we're very, we're very,
I guess very typical white middle class people that you just wouldn't think that we were into this, you know.
And I will tell people, you know, they'll say, where's your wife?
I say, ah, she's out with her boyfriend.
And they'll laugh and giggle.
And I'm serious as a heart attack.
And they think that I'm joking with them, you know.
Right.
But do you want them to know?
I mean, does anybody, are you, would you care if anyone knew or does anyone know in your other life, your regular life?
Two of her girlfriends now.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm okay with that.
And nobody that I know knows because I've told them, but they think I'm joking because they can't wrap their head around it.
So they don't know.
And I do have a friend that I correspond with who's in a similar situation.
But you met him in that world.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I, yeah.
And then, of course, the guy that we just hooked up with, when I say he's a professional,
he's got a very, very advanced type of profession, and I won't go into any more than that.
You wouldn't expect it.
I don't know if people have a stereotype as to who gets involved in this,
but, you know, there's probably doctors and lawyers, and I would imagine.
imagine a few ministers and priests and all kinds of people.
You know, it's just, it runs the gamut.
And it's not something you usually sit around and talk about at a party, you know.
Right.
Because people are going to, they're not going to listen to hear what you have to say.
They're just going to, you know, make their judgments as to what kind of person you are.
Oh, you're perverted.
You're this, you're that.
So, and that's why, you know, a show like yours is it's anonymous.
where we can talk about these things.
It lets people know that, hey, there is an alternative world out there,
that we're not cheating on one another, you know?
And so many people are in relationships
where they're being dishonest and they're cheating,
and they're having affairs,
and they're, I don't know how people do it.
It's like her number one guy,
I have no idea how he's able to do it,
it and not get caught by his wife because he does some stupid friggin things you know it's like he'll
call her to have phone sex with her in the bathroom of his own house while his wife is downstairs
i mean you know yeah and i was talking to my wife about him and he's always bitching about his wife
doesn't have sex with him and i said you know you probably saved his marriage you know he's been able
to stay in this relationship that he's not having sex with because he can call
you up when he gets really horny and either jack off over the telephone or on
Facebook or something not Facebook FaceTime or when he gets into town he gives you a call
and he takes his frustrations out you know so for sure yeah I think I think she's done
a service to his marriage you know and then I'm sure if his wife caught him she if
his wife doesn't know that he's fucking other women she's the dumbest thing on the face of the
planet. I think she just, as long as it's not in her face, she's okay with it, you know.
I think, you know, with my wife, sex is very important to her. As a matter of fact,
she'll say that's why you get married, you know. And there's a lot of women that don't want to have
sex with their husbands, probably for a variety of reasons. They get fat and out of shape,
and they're terrible lovers and they're philanderers or whatever it is or they drink too much
or they smoke too much or, you know, a whole slew of things.
And they probably, my guess is they're looking at other guys and they want to take that step
into what a relationship would be like.
I think women have relationships and men have sex.
but that's what I used to think but I have like these girls on my show that are here to say like
another I think your woman you're like it's like it's like your wife she's not having relationship
she's having sex yeah she is and I think more and more women today are are really into it's nothing
wrong for me to have sex right and they and they embrace the variety of it and stuff because
there's less stigma attached to going out and having sex with a lot of different men.
I mean, you know, when you were younger, if your number was more than, you know, one hand, you were a fucking slut.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
I mean, we've been to, there's some really nice swinger clubs here.
We like to go because we like the music and we like to dance.
We don't usually hook up with anybody or even try.
and, you know, it's eye candy for me because the women are all dressed to the nines.
You know, and I try to dress up nicely for my wife and look good.
And, you know, there's a back room there where people are just having all kinds of sex.
And to listen to some of these women, they're screaming, having these orgasms, and they're having a good time.
They're doing guys.
They're doing girls.
And they're totally open.
Matter of fact, I worked at a major insurance company at one time, and I'm a, I'm a
at the Swingers Club and there's one of the girls that works in my office that's there with her husband.
We got hilarious, yeah.
You know, and then she sees me like three weeks later and says, oh, do you go to this club?
And I said, yeah.
She said, yeah, I thought we saw you there Friday.
I said, honey, you've seen us there for the last nine Fridays in a row.
You just, you spend too much time at the bar.
Oh, I got hilarious, yeah.
So it's like she goes, well, you're not going to tell anybody, are you?
And I said, why would I do that?
You're there for the same reason.
We're there.
Yeah, exactly.
Why did swinging never work out for you guys?
Like you go to clubs, but you say you never really partake.
Did you ever like the first couple times you went?
No.
We met some people through, oh, I guess I'm kind of either through a chat room or through a swingers.
you know there's a thing called swingers date club and we have a membership to that but
I really ever meet anybody and it's like okay I go out I'm not attracted to the woman or the
woman's not attracted to me or my wife's not attracted to the guy or they're very pushy and
all they want to do is have a you know another notch in their bedposts we actually like to meet
people and become friends and it's like some some
some couples are very pushy they just want to have
they want to fuck you and then move on
and it's like okay
I am not a porn star you know
I don't think I could be a porn star
because I can't get it up on demand
I have to you know think about it a little bit
so I feel a lot of pressure to have to perform
and anytime a guy starts feeling
you know that pressure to perform
what's going to happen you know
and so it's like
you know, I couldn't walk in with a bunch of cameras sitting around and they say, okay, get up and pop.
You know, it's just, that ain't going to happen for me.
So it's, you know, it's hard enough to hook up with one person.
But, you know, when you're dealing in a dynamic of four people, two men and two women, you know, I don't want her taking one for the team and I don't want to have to take one for the team.
And that happened once, and it was a miserable experience.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was good.
experience for me and miserable for her because she just was not into this guy but because i was into
the girl she felt like he had to have an obligation to go on now because you did have sex with other
women in front of her did was there ever a point where she was like oh don't you want to go see
other people because i do know that a lot of times when i put out episodes like this on youtube or
whatever that's where people get to comment people will say like oh why does it why does she get to
fuck other guys and he doesn't get to
fuck other girls like that's ridiculous you know
but always what I hear is that
that's what the guy wants I mean you guys have set
it up by design to be this way and this is
what you want but at some point
in the beginning was she like
pushing you to go out and have girls
because she didn't want to be unfair
no no no no she was never
she always said you know you can have
if you want to meet a girl go for it
and I say yeah if I do I'll let
you know but I'm really not out
looking. You know, it's nice to be
able to have the ability to
have that freedom,
but I don't necessarily need it.
My wife is
I have a hard time keeping up with her.
I don't need me going out.
Waste of my energy on anybody else.
And I like it that way. I really do.
I actually prefer
the attention be on her,
not on me. So it's
something that I really, really enjoy.
and do you prefer to be there during her like in the beginning were you always there and then you realized she it was cool for solo play or I mean do you do you normally stay just watching or have you had actual threesomes
we have had threesomes those are fun I like them I think it inhibits her just a little bit yeah because you're there because I'm there and I think she's afraid that
Oh, well, if I look like I'm enjoying this too much, you might get jealous.
It's something she doesn't have to worry about, and I think she's getting better at it, of being able to say, yeah, he's really okay with this.
You know, like on our anniversary, there was a time where, you know, she was giving me a blowjob.
I was kissing her while he was fucking her.
And then it was distracting her, you know.
Yeah.
It's hard to give a blowjob to something.
somebody and get laid and really enjoy being laid because you're trying to, you're trying to
do too much multitasking, you know, so.
So I just assume back off and watch her get late.
It's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
And then once I did that, you know, she's coming all over the place and she's having a good
time.
So, yeah, that has gotten, that's something that's changed.
I don't have to be there.
But in the beginning you were a lot, most of the time.
No, actually in the beginning, I was not present.
I wasn't present on her first two guys.
The first time I was present was when we did a foursome.
And we did that twice.
And both times it didn't really work out very well.
Because of her not being attracted or you not being attracted to what you were talking about before?
Yeah, I think she took one for the team two times because she wasn't into the guy.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, I'm having a great time.
And I'm looking over her and she's like, not so much, you know.
Yeah.
And I would rather her have a good time and me not get any pussy than to have her have a bad time while I'm getting late.
You know, it's just I don't need to do that.
So it works out better.
Either for us a threesome or her being off on her own or maybe.
Sometimes if somebody comes to the house, she'll close the door and put a do not disturb sign on the door, which I think is hot as hell.
Oh, wow. She brings them home to your house.
Yes, she does. Yeah. Yeah, it's very safe here.
And sometimes I'm not here when she brings them.
So I don't know what the neighbors are thinking because we live in an apartment complex.
We have nosy neighbors.
But one day, this was a funny story.
We were having some air conditioning repair work done.
And number one happened to be in town.
He just happened to come in.
And there's a train station not too far from us.
And he took the train there.
She goes over and picks him up.
And they drive back to our apartment.
He's got his overnight bag because he wanted to change out of clothes into some business clothes.
And it was funny.
The air conditioner guys are outside taking care of the air conditioner.
And she's inside getting laid.
And then he's on a really tight schedule.
So they're leaving.
as just as I'm pulling up
and he had gotten in his car
with her and I went in and I said
hi guys how's it going
I could see they're looking like
I wonder if this guy knows what's going on
they think they just caught your wife cheating
on you and she got out one second early
oh my goodness full funny
and that was so much fun it really was
and we came home and I think we fucked like rabbits
the rest of the day because it was
just the thought of them thinking what was going
on was really a turn on.
So it was fun.
I enjoyed it.
Now sometimes like cuckold people like they have some sort or some people have said or I wonder,
does it always have to do with being by or being into the same sex a little bit?
Like do you have any kind of attraction to a man?
You know, because I know that you said you like being sloppy seconds.
Do you like to be the cleanup guy, that kind of a thing?
I don't have any attraction to men.
Yeah.
It's never happened.
If she said that you'd like to see it, I would do it for her.
Yeah, I have, I have, usually when there's two guys in there, we're, we're making so certain that neither one of us get close to one another.
It's not funny.
I have no problem being in a room where a guy hasn't a wrecked penis getting ready to put it in my wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's pretty neat.
But, no, I don't have any desire for that.
And so there's, I don't mind getting sloppy things.
I think that's kind of fun.
Right.
You know, but.
But that's not your big thing.
And sometimes I do hear like some guys, they want the other guy to be more well endowed than them.
There's something about that that turns them on.
Do you have any of that kind of feelings?
Well, if she's going to get late, I hope the guy has a good size of dick.
I mean, she doesn't need a smaller one than I have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No girl that I know ever said, oh, it's so small.
I can't wait to get on top of it.
No, I mean, it's like, I have no problem if the guys got a bigger dick than I do.
So it's like, you know, she might as well get as big as she can handle her wants.
She doesn't claim to be a size queen, you know.
Yeah.
That's not an issue.
I think it's, I think it's just fun to, guys get so excited when they see her.
They've already got a heart on it.
I mean, some I looked down,
they haven't even taken their pants off,
and I can tell they got a heart on, you know.
So your wife's attractive and hot as well.
She is.
She's petite and cute and good looking,
and, you know,
as somebody said the other day,
she could give any 30-year-old to run for her money, so.
Right.
Now, does your wife know that you come on my show that you're on the show?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So if you have any picks you want to share,
you can, anonymous ones, I don't know.
I can
Yeah you know
You know
Listen I never have guys wives
Pictures because the pictures I do anonymous pictures know my Patreon people love it
And it's such a great addition to the show
Because you kind of put you know
Never a face because it's anonymous
But a body to the story
And
But I never will post
Picks of someone who didn't give their consent
To have their picks up
But since your wife knows
You know it would be great
Because typically in these in these
These situations I can't ask
for the waste pictures because they don't know.
But since she does...
Yeah, I can do that.
Mm-hmm.
I can send someone along.
Yeah, someone along.
Tell me like one of your hottest stories.
Give me a couple hot stories.
Oh, wow.
So one of the first encounters we had, we were at this party.
And it was, I guess you could call it a swinger,
party.
There were a few more men than there were women, so it wasn't, you know, even couples.
And so this guy walks in, and he looks at my wife, and my wife looks at him.
And you can tell there's this instant chemistry attraction.
So she goes, oh, that guy is so hot.
I said, well, why don't you go over and ask him if he'd like to play?
So she did.
and he said, sure.
And she took him over to a chair and sat down.
And she was kind of giving him a hand job.
And she looks over me and she goes, can I give him a blow job?
Like, why are you asking?
Certainly, if you want to give him a blow job, go ahead.
Well, this is one of the first times I'd ever seen her give somebody a blowjob.
And she'd always claimed that she liked doing it.
And I never believed her because I never thought any girl like really giving blow jobs.
They just did it.
So the next thing, I know, she's sucking this.
guy's dick and he explodes. I mean, he comes in her mouth, but she, so much so that she couldn't
handle it all and he's still coming. And I wound up getting hit with a shrapnel, you know,
because I'm too far away. Yeah. You know, it was friendly fire, I guess you want to call it.
So everybody took a break and we were eating some snacks or getting a drink. I forget exactly how it went.
And so he had said, you're okay with your wife doing that?
And I said, yeah, I think it's really hot.
And so she told him one of her fantasies was to meet a guy, fuck him, and never see him again.
And so he said, okay, this guy is really intelligent.
And so people started playing again.
And we were watching, the three of us were watching a couple walking on a bed.
And he was kind of playing with her pussy, and I'm kind of nibbling on her.
neck and she kind of turns around and she just moans, I've got to fuck him now.
Like I said, she doesn't like getting laid by anybody.
So I take her by the hand.
I'm going to go find an empty room.
And he grabs her by the hand and he just kind of pulls her.
And the next thing I know, he's got her and I don't.
And we go into this little room, he closes the door, we lock it.
And he starts fucking her.
And he's got her bent over.
I forget what exactly he had her been over
but he's doing her like doggy style
where they're both standing up
and she is coming and she is squirting on the floor
she literally left a puddle on the floor
oh had she ever squirder before was this the first time
or she was always a squirter she never squirted
with anybody fucking her she had from
you know like she'll if I go down on her she'll squirt
right she I'd never seen
I've never made her squirt from fucking her
and he was and she
is coming. I mean, she's making more
I thought the cops were going to
get called. She was making so much racket.
You know, like she's being murdered.
You know, that kind of sound?
Oh, my own.
Hilarious. Yeah.
And, I mean, he's really fucking her.
And, you know,
I think I had handed him a condom.
And so he came
and we walked outside
and all of a sudden he's gone.
He just disappeared. I mean, he
lived out of her fantasy, you know.
he met her he fucked her and he disappeared and we have never seen him again so that was really hot
and when we got back to the room to our room I was kind of horny and I started to come on to her
and she said sweetheart she's there I'm spent I can't do it anymore he'll just have to wait
I was okay with that that was really hot you know that she was able to actually tell me that
so it was I mean he gave her a really good pussy pouting so she got him off
once by hand, once by mouth, and once by pussy, that was really hot.
And so for you, because it's such a turn on, even though she turns you down that night
because she's spent, is it still like the next day that you're, like,
horny for the situation that happened, that it, you're, you know what I mean?
It's still adding to your sex life.
Yes.
And I don't know that I got any pussy the next day either because we had a long drive home
from where we were.
Right.
So I know we drove home and we talked about it.
To this day we'll talk about it.
That's one of the hottest experiences we've ever had.
One of those experiences that they can't be begun.
And then another hot experience that was just between she and I.
She had this kind of like long white skirt on, you know, kind of one of these flowery type of skirts that, you know.
And we were on the beach.
and we're next to this really busy restaurant
and there were a bunch of beach chairs
that were stacked up between a seawall and the ocean.
So it was like an alcove
and I plopped her up on top of the seawall
and I went down on her
and she was come and squirting in my face
and there were people all over the place
but nobody could see us because
we were like hidden behind all these beach chairs
that were all stacked up on top of one another
that formed this like little perfect
little fort. We go back
there quite often and those chairs are not there
anymore. Just that one day.
Just that one stack, yeah.
That was really fun.
So that was something that
she and I had fun doing on our
own. So that was cool.
Does number one and number two
they know about you?
I feel like you did say you have
had some times where she's fucked them in front of you
or have they always been solo?
Number one I've never met in my life.
Number two, I know I've watched them twice.
She prefers to be alone with him.
99% of the time she is.
Every time she's gotten with him, other than those two times,
she's been by herself with him.
She'll go down.
When he comes into town, he has a hotel.
She'll go down to the hotel.
She'll fuck him.
Sometimes I wait down in the car.
Sometimes she just drives down by herself.
just depends
and then
number one
I drove her
he was at the
he had come into the airport
and I drove her down there
to where he was
and then I went
she dropped me off
and took the car to where he was
and
they went off and
fucked and did something in the car
and then she took him
back to his
he was catching
a flight going out and he took him back to Kets the flight and then there was a really cool
restaurant across the street from the airport that we went to that and she had a skirt on
and his cum was literally running down her leg while we were in the restaurant and that was pretty
hot too and uh i remember putting my hand up her skirt and i'm thinking boy he really came a lot
didn't he and she said oh yeah so she even had to go excuse herself go into the ladies
room to kind of like clean up a little bit because it was she didn't have panties on it was
just running down her legs that was really hot wow so that number one he knows that she has a
husband and that thing she's okay with it or does he think that she's cheating do you know
i think i think he knows that i exist i don't think in his mind he wants to believe
that I'm okay with it.
So I think in his mind
he thinks that he's cheating.
He just can't wrap
his head around the fact that I'm okay
with it.
Right. And maybe some guys
get turned on by the fact
that they're secretly
fucking some other guy's wife.
I think, right?
Yeah, and he's told her that.
He loves the fact that she's married.
Yeah.
And Stodd is number two.
He just loves the fact
that he's fucking married pussy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we,
have found that to be the case
with most of the guys that she's hooked up
with. They really like the idea
that they're fucking another man's wife.
Right. And
I can relate to that
because
I've done that
and it's fun.
It's just more fun to have my wife
fucked by another man. Right.
You love it too, but it's like you
have it in house.
Oh yeah. And she knew about them.
There used to be a couple that
And they were, they lived pretty far away, but we met through a chat room, and he wanted somebody
to fuck his wife.
So I did her several times.
And I would tell him, I don't want you watch and go wait in the other room.
And he loved that, you know.
And then sometimes I'd say, stand here and watch me, fuck your wife.
So it was like I'd control the situation because I kind of understood what he was into.
Right, because you're into it.
Yeah, and I tell him, I say, you know, your wife's a slut, and I'm fucking her.
And he'd get all turned on by that, you know.
And she did, too.
It was like a little fantasy game that it was going on.
It was nothing mean about it.
Of course.
It was just their type of little fantasy.
And she was really hot.
I enjoyed her a lot.
And so then he started talking about all four of us hooking up.
And I said, that's not going to happen.
It's just not going to work.
You know, so I think he was like letting his, using his wife to have other sex that he could.
And that just wasn't going to happen with us.
Has your wife ever been with another woman?
Or is it always just been strictly guys?
No, she's never been with another woman that I'm aware of.
Mm-hmm.
Something happened one night that almost she was with another woman.
but I came to the rescue and receded.
Because she was looking at me like, what do I do?
And I could tell that she was like really nervous.
Right.
And this girl was coming on to her in our house.
And this girl and I had to go on a business trip to next day.
So I...
Wait, so it was a co-worker at your house?
I mean, was she there as a part of like a, you know, open, swinger type,
hot wife cuckold?
We were, this is just work-related.
We were co-workers that had known each other for several years.
We eventually were not working together, and then this particular thing came up where we were, we worked for different people, but we were going on the same business trip for the same reasons.
Yeah.
And she and I were going to drive to the airport together the next morning.
So you would let her stay at your place?
So we let her stay at our place, yeah, because she lived on the other side of the state.
And she had asked me one time, through email, she said,
are you ever afraid to do the things that you want to do?
And I said, no, I'm afraid to do the things.
I said, I'd rather die regretting the things that I did, not the things that I didn't do.
Right.
So I said, you know, go for the opportunity when it arises.
Well, apparently what she was talking about was doing my wife, which I didn't realize at the time.
and so she was at the house and she went in and took a shower and came out dressing this really sexy lingerie and then came over and got down on her knees in front of my wife and I think she was trying to go down on her and my wife was like looking at me like you know what do I do and I could tell she she was afraid to say no and she was afraid to say yes so so like a gentleman I jumped in the middle and I went down on the girl and got her right and
off and my wife watched.
Oh, wow. And
had you ever been with that co-worker before?
No. What was
that flight like?
It was strictly
business.
I mean, she was cool. I mean, because you knew
each other so long. I mean, because it's kind of crazy.
You cross the line you had never crossed before and didn't
know existed with this woman.
I'm sorry. I didn't hear anything.
Like, you didn't really know that this, she was down
for the kind of stuff. Maybe you guys smelled
on each other. Like, how did she know to come out? I mean, and do that to bring their way, you know?
I guess she just, well, she told me one time when we were working together, she said, you know,
I gave a guy a blowjob on an airplane one time. And I said, okay, that was nice. I wonder why
you're telling me this, you know? So I guess there were some hints. Yeah. There used to be a lingerie
show at a restaurant bar that we would meet together with after work. And, and, you know, and,
And this girl won quite a bit of lingerie for some reason.
I don't know why, but she always seemed to get the raffle.
And so, you know, she seemed to admire the girls would come out and model the lingerie,
and then they'd raffle it off, you know.
And she won it several times.
So I guess there were some hints.
We went over to her house on the other side of the state once.
And my wife, you know, like a lot of girls, they color their hair.
So she bought some color in this girl.
So I'll color it for you.
But girls do stuff like that.
Yeah.
So I didn't think anything of it.
I guess my wife didn't.
But I guess that was kind of like her first step towards trying.
And then I got the email from her when she asked me about, you know,
regretting things that you do and stuff like that.
And I said, no, you know, go for it.
The worst that somebody can do is say no.
So on the way to the airport,
then it's why she said,
how come your wife didn't want to play?
And I said,
well,
she's really not into girls.
You know?
That's all I could tell you,
you know.
And then the rest of the,
that's the only time we discussed
that the rest of the trip
was strictly business.
And it was a really difficult trip.
I mean,
we had to go a long way.
And we went across a few time zones.
And it was out of the country.
And, you know,
and it was very busy.
We got where we were gone.
and we went to the hotel.
We got up.
We went to our meetings that we had to go to, and we flew back.
So it was like this 24-hour whirlwind international trip.
So there was no time to play.
Right.
And you never played with her again.
Just that you just put down on.
No, she came to our house.
We lived in Texas for a while.
And she came to her house out there and stayed overnight.
But there was no playing.
What's getting dip into the pool?
That was about it.
Oh, interesting.
But that didn't lead to.
Anything?
That didn't lead to anything, no.
Wow.
I think she really wanted my wife, not me.
Yeah, it sounds like it.
And unfortunately, your wife wasn't into it.
Do you consider yourself your wife a hot wife?
She's a hot wife, right?
You're a cuckold.
Yes, I would call her a hot wife, definitely.
Yeah.
She's definitely a hot wife.
Yeah, Jay.
Okay, listen, Jay, you've got to send me a pick of your hot wife.
Okay.
Okay.
You're going to, when's your anniversary every year around this time?
Is that August?
In August, yeah.
So you've had your two anniversaries, you've celebrated them this way.
Maybe now moving forward, you're going to always try to set it up, or is it more fun when it happens, you know, like by accident or, you know.
I hope it happens again.
It's nice if it's planned because we know what's going to happen other than just a happen chance, you know.
Yeah.
So whether or not it does, whether or not we stay in touch with this guy, I hope we do.
He texted her a couple weeks ago.
And, you know, we're several hours drive from one another.
So sometimes that interferes with the ability to get together, you know.
Right.
But if it's once a year, you know, anniversary.
What was that anniversary of yours?
How many years?
Oh, God.
Please don't make me tell you.
It's 28.
Okay.
Something with something with the two in it.
You want me cut that out?
Yeah.
I'm dating myself now.
It was 28.
Right.
Okay.
Was it both of your first marriage?
No.
Okay, but second?
Yes.
For both of you?
No, it was her third.
Her third and your second?
My second, yes.
Oh, there you go, but this was the one for both of you, keepers.
The third was a charm for her, the second was a charm for me.
Yeah, there you go.
That's good.
I think you guys, you know, I just taped a guy who has the opposite to say.
It's a little confusing because he was like,
I just really need to call in to tell people like, you know, that this whole swinger situation
and getting involved in a relationship isn't such a great idea.
We've seen so many couples go fucking south or every, but they're still fine.
So I'm like, it's kind of weird that you're trying to be against it, but yet you lasted,
you know, but I do like to show all different kinds of stories.
But I think typically people think this kind of a thing is just poison for a relationship.
So I do always like to have people like you on who are here to say, like, it really works.
You're completely fine.
It just adds to your relationship.
And it's all good because I think that that people think that that doesn't exist.
It does.
When you go into this, you have to understand that, you know, somebody could wind up falling in love with somebody.
Somebody could wind up deciding that they don't like the other person.
anymore. So you have to go in with an open mind and it's like I've got this attitude. You know,
if you let a bird out of a cage and it flies away, it'll come back if it loves you. And if it
doesn't come back, it doesn't love you. So you just have to be able to accept that. In our particular
case, neither one of us have that worries. We know that we're always coming back. I don't care
who she sleeps with. Eventually, she's going to wind up back and bed with me. Right.
So it's very enlightening and liberating at the same time.
And, you know, along with our, my first marriage was almost sexless since her first two marriages were.
So we finally got what we both needed.
Yeah, wow.
And you're still going strong after 28 years.
I think that that's great.
I love your story.
Send me in that pick.
I think that's exciting that we get to have a little sneak peek of her.
That will be on Patreon.
Thanks, Jay, thanks for calling in and sharing your story.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
Bye.
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