Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 558 - Aaron is a Young, Orthodox Jewish Swinger?!
Episode Date: November 23, 2022Aaron is a super young, ultra Orthodox Jew by day and a swinger by night and he called in to talk all about it. How old is he? How did he wind up at a swingers club in the first place? And, what exact...ly does he do when he’s there? Tune in for all the details which include info on the strict charedi society he lives in, how there is zero info on anatomy and human sexuality and how that led him to being completely confused, how he eventually figured stuff out on the down low, his first time viewing porn and how that led him to Onlyfans, the couple he met there who turned him on to a local swingers club, his first experience at the age of 18 losing his virginity at the swingers club and exactly what went down, who he lost his virginity to as well as the couple he hooked up with and how and why that was such a turn on, how he was recently pegged and likes being a sub, how he now plays with solo females and couples, how he enjoys being with women who are cheating on their husbands with him, the swingers club he went to in LA and the porn star he hooked up with there, how normal orgies and group sex are for him and how that might effect his future, how he believes in monogamy, how he feels about what he’s doing now, what he sees in his future and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am going to get right to the episode today.
It's super interesting.
I've been holding on to this one because I had to edit the shit out of it because he repeated
a lot of words and stuff.
But anyway, today I have on Aaron.
Aaron is only 19 years old.
He's an ultra-Orthodox Jewish kid.
I'm not going to say a guy.
Well, maybe a guy, a kid, a kid slash guy.
because he is legal age, okay?
I'm not talking to anyone illegal.
He's 19, and this guy lost his virginity at a swinger's club.
When you hear all the details, it's like so crazy
because he explains how things go down in his religion.
It's very strict.
There is no talk about SEX.
There is no talk about dicks or balls or masturbation or anything.
He had no idea what was going on.
And then one day is like,
Dick got hard and he was like, what the heck is this?
And he wound up going to like the family computer to just like look it up.
And he didn't even know the terminology.
I mean, didn't even know penis, dick, nothing, never even heard of it.
That's how he was raised.
We talk a lot about that and like how he went looking just to find this information because
he was like, what the fuck is going on?
And he wound up stumbling across porn.
And then the porn led him to OnlyFans.
And then OnlyFans led him to like a couple.
and then he started watching them have sex
and then they're like, well, you should go to the sex club
and this kid guy lives in London
and he did. He wound up going to a sex club
and think about it like he had never had sex
he had never done anything. This was the only thing he could do
to sort of learn about it and get his rocks off
because within his community everyone lives under these rules
so there is no SCX going down at all before marriage.
He winds up at that swingers club.
He talks about his first.
experience. He talks about his second experience. He talks about losing his virginity there. He talks
about the couples that he's hooked up. He had threesomes. He got pegged. He had orgies. I mean, it all
went down. It's like crazy. It's crazy. And it's super interesting because you do learn a lot
about his religion, which to me was fascinating. Like I said, you have to have that backstory to
get how he wound up there because I don't think anyone would have made a
this story. It sort of just happened and things snowballed for him. So much so that when he like went,
at some point he talks about going to visit some of his family members in L.A. He lives in London,
but he went to visit in L.A. And he went on the computer there and decided to find some strip clubs.
I mean, not strip clubs, worse, Swingers Clubs, and went to them on the DL while he was there. He got a
blowjob from some famous porn star. He saw some famous porn stars there, got a blow job from one.
And that's how he's been living his life. And he's only
19 years old. We do talk about what his future looks like. He's not looking to leave his religion or his
family or his community. He wants a traditional life eventually. But right now, this is what's going on.
And that's what's fascinating because he is juggling these two worlds. Of course, neither one of them
knows about each other, okay? Nobody in his community where he lives knows about, of course.
course, the swinging lifestyle, and nobody in the swinging lifestyle knows where he comes from. So it's
like, it's crazy and it's interesting. And I know I use that word a lot, but this one really is interesting.
It takes a while to get to the point where he gets to the sex school, but like I said, you need to know
all the stuff about how he was raised because it's interesting. So I'm going to be right back on
with Aaron. Hi, Aaron. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast.
are you today. Hi, I'm great. Thanks. How are you? I'm good. So, Aaron, I was a little excited when I got
your email, because I always like when I have people on that are going to be talking about something
that I don't talk about a lot. I did have recently on a Orthodox Jewish couple who turned,
like, who were swingers? You are an, but they weren't that religious when it came down to it. You are
your ultra-religious Orthodox Jewish man who's studying in the seminary by day.
is what you said in your email. And by night, you're like screwing couples in orgies, doing all kinds
of crazy things. So you really are living a double life. And you're super young. How old are you again?
I'm 19. 19. I don't even know if I should be talking to you. What's the legal age to have sex where you live?
I don't know. I mean... In England, in England, it's 16.
Okay, good. Okay. Okay. So you're legal. Okay. So now, Aaron, please tell me,
first of all, because my father is a priest, people know this. I just added myself recently.
And he went to the seminary.
So am I assuming that you are going to the seminary because you are going to be some sort of rabbi or something like that?
I'm confused.
So in my community, even if you're not going to be a rabbi, it's normal to spend time in a seminary.
So when I was 16, I left school.
And since then, I've been in a theological seminary.
And I will probably be there for another two to three.
years. Oh, wow.
So five, six years in total, which is really, that's what everybody does in my community.
Oh, interesting. I knew that.
Yeah. It's just a general thing. As in everybody, I know everybody I grew up with does it.
There's almost a social pressure that you have to go. It's a non-negotiable, I would say.
Right. I mean, imagine you did it. You'd scar your whole family. It's that kind of a thing, too.
I would assume. You know, everyone would be talking. Definitely. Right. And not just
my family, the community.
Yeah.
It would, people would talk about it.
It's like big news almost.
Now, how hardcore are you?
Because I know that when I spoke with Damien and his wife, they were like, oh, that's not,
we're not that religious, but we are religious.
So if I remember correctly, I listened to that podcast.
Yeah.
And they were talking about not being Hasidic.
Right.
And I'm not Hasidic either.
Ultra Orthodox Judaism broadly splits into two strands.
Hasidic Judaism and what's referred to as in the lingo, Litvish Judaism, which is, it means
Lithuanian. And it's not particularly from Lithuania. It's more broad than that. But we don't
look the same. We wear black hats and white shirts and black suits and everyone's, everyone's,
everyone dresses the same. Oh, you do have that aspect to it. Uh-huh. Yeah, but we're not like
Hasidic people wear like long coats and some of them wear fur hats.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't do that.
Oh my God.
So wait, are the people that you're fooling around with in the community or outside of the community?
So outside of the community.
So in my community, it's completely, it's completely forbidden.
I mean, my growing up education regarding the most basic things about sex and human sexuality was extremely limited.
and it's completely taboo in the community.
And even if there was somebody who potentially was thinking
in the same way I was, I would never know
because nobody wants to talk about it with anybody else.
And so I had to look beyond the community
in order to explore that part of myself.
Oh, my God, so wait, take me on that journey.
So if it's so forbidden, I'm assuming masturbation is like,
no way do you do it.
Do they even teach you about it?
Or do they not even talk about it?
So you probably won't even believe it.
I didn't even know how to refer to my private parts.
I didn't know a name for them until I was in my mid-teens.
And I think it's an enormous problem health-wise, meaning that somebody from my community
of experiencing health problems down there, then they're not able to go to a doctor and
articulate what they're experiencing properly because they don't even know how to refer to their body parts.
I think it's terrible.
Wow.
So they don't, they just make it like a nothing.
Like it's not like they're overly like, oh, you got to hide that.
That's your private part.
And that's your penis, which to me is one side of the spectrum.
Are they like on the other where they just don't even acknowledge it?
Yeah.
It's completely not talked about ever, I would say.
It was probably somewhere in mid-teens that I started playing with my body, I guess.
As normal teenagers start to do, they start to explore themselves.
And I realized that when I touched my cock, it felt pleasurable.
And this got me intrigued.
And I wanted to be able to take that pleasure further.
But there was no way I could really find out information, except that we had generally
internet is also access to the internet is very limited within my community.
But at home for, I guess, for like basic needs, we did have one computer.
But that one computer was in quite a.
public setting. None of the kids say are allowed to have computers in their own room.
Even my parents don't. And none of us have smartphones. It's literally just one electronic device
between, I've got six siblings. So there's eight of us in the house, and we've got one
electronic device at home. So I was intrigued and I wanted to be able to take the pleasure that
I'd experienced further. So one day, when my parents were out, I decided that that was the
perfect opportunity to look up on the computer. I knew it was a place that you could search for
information. I was like, this is the only place where I'm going to be able to enhance this experience.
And as I said, at this point, I didn't even know that it was forbidden in the Jewish religion.
I guess I intrinsically knew that it wasn't something I was supposed to talk about and it was something
I had to be secret about. So I looked it up on the computer. But I had a, I guess, I had a bit of a
problem, which was that, as I said, my sex education was so limited that I didn't even know
the term. I didn't even know the term to refer to my penis. I didn't know what in the search
bar. So I think I started off by looking up, what is the name of your body part that hangs
between your legs? Something like that. You're that insulated that, like you don't have outside
friends that are going to tell you about these things. That's how much you don't know even as a teenager.
No, I'd never even met anyone or probably, I mean, the most I'd ever met somebody from outside
the community was, say, going to a store and buying something.
It was like the most I ever interacted with anybody from the outside world.
It was like completely, completely cut off.
Anyways, so the answer I got on the internet was, when I looked that up was testicles.
So I was like, okay, well, I'll check that that's true.
So I put testicles into the search bar.
And what came up was obviously not, it was close to the thing I was referring to,
but not exactly the thing I was referring to.
So then I put in, I think, something like,
what is the name of your body part above your testicles?
You're getting closer.
Oh, my goodness.
And so what appeared was a diagram of the male anatomy.
And I realized that the part that I was referring to was called a penis.
So now I had the appropriate terminology.
to be able to look up how to make my penis feel good.
So that's exactly what I did.
And I clicked on the first website that came up.
And it essentially told me the basics of masturbation,
which at that point was another word I learned for the first time.
And it told me something like,
you wrap your hand around the length of your penis and stroke up and down.
So I obviously, I cleared the internet history on the computer.
And I went back, I went to my bedroom and I was like, wow, I've got to put this new information into action.
Because I guess before, when I had experienced pleasure by touching my dick, I'd never touched it, I guess, in like a coordinated way.
So, so I tried this and it was like the most amazing, like, pleasurable experience that had ever happened to me.
And like, I couldn't believe that like when I did this increased in size.
and then once that happened, everything felt even more pleasurable.
And then after a couple of minutes, I came for the first time.
So that was obviously the most sensational feeling.
Were you confused about the come or had you read about that?
Yeah.
So I was going to say I was pretty freaked out.
I was pretty freaked out by it.
Because obviously that's not what I was used to coming out of my dick.
So I guess it was a bit worried.
And I was like, hmm, maybe I should.
didn't do that. So I stopped. And then I was like, a couple of days later, my parents were out
again. And I'd had such pleasure. I was like, I don't want to give up on this just because
that happened. I was like, I guess I don't know whether that's normal, whether that's what
happens, whether that's not what usually happens. I didn't know. So I went back to the computer
and I was like, maybe I'll see if I can find a video of someone else doing this. And then I could see
if like that's what happens at the end. So sure enough, I looked it up and I found a video of a guy
jumping off and yeah, and sure enough what happened at the end was the exact same thing that I
I'd experienced. So I guess it was all good. I could carry on. But I guess that something else
had happened at the same time, which was that I found myself on my first porn site. And I saw that
there were other videos there and I was intrigued to see what else was out there. So it was
well, of course, wasn't too long until I saw two people having sex for the first time.
And I couldn't believe, I guess I couldn't believe how passionate it was and how into it they were and the moans and how much pleasure they seem to be experiencing.
And so that gave me even more intrigue regarding, because I guess now I finally knew that that's how a penis and a vagina interacted.
Yeah.
And so that intrigued me even more.
Like I hadn't even thought about the relationship between men and women in that way.
Yeah.
But obviously I couldn't, most of the time my parents were at home and I could barely watch porn ever.
So I wanted to see more.
And so a few months later, it was my birthday.
My grandparents gave me some money in which I think they were expecting me to save or something.
But I ended up going in secret to buy my own laptop.
Oh, naughty boy.
Yeah, very naughty.
So obviously that's something also completely not allowed in my community.
I mean, if that had been, to give you an idea, if say my school had found out, I would have been kicked out.
Right.
It's that bad.
Definitely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely.
I don't even have a doubt in my mind that I'd be.
Right.
There's like no separation from school, from the people next door from any, like one community and you all follow the fucking rules and everyone knows everyone's business and everyone has to do the same.
And there's like complete transparency and everything.
It's like, it's crazy.
You know, because like in our world, like your school can't tell you what the fuck to do at home.
But in your world, which is so crazy that if you did something at home in the privacy of your own bedroom and the community found out, you would lose everything.
It's crazy.
I know.
So I obviously had to hide it pretty carefully.
That's obviously that factor.
And also, my parents wouldn't have reacted too well, to say the least, to put it lightly.
So I hit it quite well.
and I started watching in my bathroom and I would jerk off.
And I guess that was the start of a couple of years of exploring myself in that way.
And that's kind of how things continued.
And I guess it was probably during that couple of years that I, I can't even remember how it was that I found out.
But I found out that both of these activities, both jerking off and watching porn are both forbidden by my religion.
but it was the most enjoyable thing that I'd ever experienced in my life.
So I was basically just like, screw it.
I'm going to carry on.
And I wasn't, I wasn't, I guess that was my first, like, active rebellion.
Oh, it gets way worse, because I know that you meet couples and have orgies.
I mean, it's crazy.
How does that happen?
I'm not going to get, yeah.
Yeah, so I'll come to it.
So I wasn't going to let any of, like, these laws from stopping me.
And around the time.
of the pandemic, I came to find OnlyFans. And I'd saved up a good bit of money. And so I was able to
subscribe some of the girls. And I particularly enjoyed, like, being able to communicate with them.
Because it was like the first time in my life that I'd in any way, even though it was obviously
it wasn't face-to-face. It was the first time in my life I'd communicated with anybody from the
outside world. Yeah. And at a certain point, I came across
a couple on on only fans who not only DM their subscribers but also do like Skype calls
with with them obviously for a fee you could see them I did that yeah and and that was the first time
that I got to watch people having sex live and I told them that it was obviously something that
was completely outside of my community and I but I told them that was something I really
wanted to experience. And so the woman and the couple, it's when she suggested to 18 year old
me to go try out a sex club where I could find people who would be willing to have sex with me
and who are outside my community and who I didn't know and wouldn't judge me in the way I would
be judged in my community. And where doing it wouldn't have the repercussions it would have in my
community. And so I was like, well, that sounds really cool. I'll try it out. And so I guess that is
the context behind my first trip to the Swingers Club. Wow. But how far did you have to travel
to find a sex club in the vicinity of your neighborhood? Like, you know, how close was one to
your neighborhood or far? I live in London. I can probably tell from my accent. But there's a number of
clubs in London. Oh, okay, because you're in a big city, so they're there, they're there.
Yeah. And the public transport made it quite easy to get to. So it wasn't like I was dependent upon
somebody else to go there. I'm generally not such a big sleeper. I'm somebody who's able to go on like
three, four hours sleep. So if I was up late at night out of the house, it wasn't like something,
it wasn't like my parents would be suspicious of me. Right. But let me ask you this, because you do
wear a certain outfit that is a big towel, you know, where, what your religion is and what your beliefs are.
So when you go to this club the first time, do you bring like a change of clothes or do you go in your outfit that you typically wear?
So obviously I didn't think it would be the best way of attracting a potential sexual partners.
At the club.
In the club.
Well, that's what I mean.
Like where did you get the clothes from for that first time?
So meaning those are obviously the clothes we wear in public.
But at home, like when you're sitting at home,
you don't necessarily like dress that formally.
And I guess I don't know,
I don't know if it's like this like around the world,
but generally,
definitely in like places in London.
Yeah.
And these kinds of clubs they expect you to dress a bit more formally.
Yeah.
So,
so that actually suited me because I guess I just,
I had plenty of shirts.
So I just put on a button down shirt.
And I put on like a pair of chinos and like I was good to go.
Wow.
It wasn't that.
The clothing.
wasn't that big of a deal because you had it.
Such a big deal. All right. So wait. So now
you find a sex club
close to where you live and you decide to
go all by yourself. You have balls.
Let me tell you. Like were you nervous?
We're excited. Yeah. I probably what.
I think a bit of both. I was really
excited to see what
I would experience there.
But I also knew it was
an environment, completely
alien to any environment
I'd ever experienced before.
And so I guess I was a bit nervous.
I was a bit nervous what people would think of me.
Even though I obviously wasn't dressed quite in the same way that I'm usually dressed in public,
I was worried that I wouldn't say in a way fitting because I'm not,
I'm not used to general society.
And I guess there's lots of social cues and lots of ways people interact with each other
that aren't necessarily the accepted norm in my society.
Yeah, that makes sense.
conflict there. But I had this couple who on on only fans, I had asked them for some advice.
So that kind of reassured me a bit. But I was pretty nervous. And I, especially when I was
like traveling that and it was almost like the tension was building. It was like the countdown
to my first time. And that was quite nerve-wracking. Yeah, I can imagine now. So what happened on
your first experience at a swingers club? Sex club, swingers club. So I guess it's a
pretty, especially from where I come from, and I'm sure it's probably the same for anybody who
goes for the first time. Yeah. It's a pretty different environment to the one you're used to.
Luckily, I went to one, this couple is from London. They'd suggested to me one that was known
for being very friendly, and they showed me around the place, which was quite interesting. And I guess
I was a bit nervous to go and interact with people straight away. And,
And luckily, I got there at nine and I was there until like two o'clock in the morning.
So I had quite a bit of time to settle in.
And it was probably for like a while, maybe maybe even like up to an hour where I pretty
much didn't speak to anyone.
And I was just kind of like watching what was going on.
And it probably looked a bit weird.
I was scouting out the place.
But I wasn't really, I wasn't really sure how to approach anyone.
I guess they also look on the younger side.
So there were people there who would never have been interested in me in the first.
last place. Or just like I would think it typically don't see people that young because listen
an 18 year old guy could go to like a party and fuck a girl. I mean for you this was like your
only way to really have sex. You had to go to a sex club if you think about it. Yeah. I had never thought
about it in that way like why I guess it's not so typical for people that you have to go. No but that was
think about you were a problem solver you had a problem and you solved it. I mean that would be the only if you
think about it, how else does somebody that grew up with the rules that you had and the education
that you had and confined to the, I don't know, what is it called, teachings of your culture?
Like, what are you supposed to do? This is what you had to do. If you wanted to have sex,
that was your only way of figuring out, get in touch with that part of yourself. You had to go to a sex
club. There was no place, there was nothing else you could do, really.
It's quite a compliment to be told by the problem solver that I'm a good problem solve.
I'm a fucking problem solver, so I know I could tell another problem solver.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, you had a problem.
You wanted to have sex.
You were curious.
And you solved it.
I mean, people must be like, what the fuck is this little kid doing here?
You're 18, you know?
I mean, that's like I was, I guess, supported or enhanced by the fact that maybe
this comes from my, from my Jewish roots.
I can grow quite a good beard, which can make me look, which does make me look a
A little older.
Right, right.
A little bit older than I am.
As in, I still look on the younger side, obviously, for people.
I would say, at least where I was, I would say the average person was probably in their mid-late 30s.
So I obviously looked a lot younger than that.
Yeah.
But even like now, people say that especially when I have a beard, I look like I'm maybe somewhere around like 24, 25.
Right.
So that did help me a little bit.
It didn't look like a little child in there.
Yeah, yeah.
That's good.
But wait.
Did you have any kind of sex or did you just sit back and watch that first time?
So I guess I was not ready for sex.
But I did play a little bit.
I received my first ever blowjob.
Oh.
Which was good fun.
There were couples there, but it was also like a lot of single women and single guys.
And I think I found it easier the first time.
When I was very nervous about approaching people, I found it.
easier communicating with like a woman than like the complicate all the complications that surround
I guess communicating with a couple if I make sense yeah of course yeah so I ended up hooking up
with this woman and as I said it was my first time receiving all sex so yeah general I just kind of
watched and I guess it's kind of my personality I'm more of like a watch a scout out the
environment and then you know kind of like plan your move for for the next time so the first time
as kind of like the practice run, the prepare for what would be like the real first time,
which would be like the next one.
And I ended up on my second trip.
I ended up having sex twice.
I think at the beginning, my first time, I wasn't so good.
I've become better over time.
It's not normal for people to lose their virginity with like lots of other people watching them.
Oh yeah.
Think about it.
Oh, my God.
You lost your virginity.
virginity at a sex club. Maybe that's going to be the title. Aaron lost his virginity at the sex club.
Wait, so right. That is kind of crazy if you think about it. Like that was your way. That was like the same thing like we were saying before. That's like how you had to lose your virginity to a couple. Was it a couple? Yeah, that was my. That was my only way. No, no, no, no. One was I, the first one was, the first one was just a girl and then the second one was a couple. Right. It would have been better.
was the couple because then you could say you could tell people like when you're older like your
grandchildren like yeah I lost my virginity to some man's wife and I mean not that you could ever talk to
anyone like this or tell anyone so wait so those first time you have your sex first of all swingers
clubs or sex clubs is there like rules that you have to wear condoms and everything is everything
always extremely safe or is it up to the people like did you use condoms like because I'm assuming
you didn't know about that shit because you didn't know about anything yeah so I guess that was
something out as in I guess in kind of like my research into it I figured out that that
was something that I had to do which by the way that's also something that's forbidden in orthodox
you know that's why you have eight brothers and sisters yeah I guess and yes you think your mother
wanted eight fucking kids nobody wants eight kids I mean maybe one percent of the population wants
eight kids but most people don't want that many kids come on honestly honestly honestly
firstly firstly it's six kids
I know it doesn't sound better.
Okay, well, are you the seventh or are you six altogether?
No, no, no, no, six.
I think where you got eight from, as I said, including my parents.
Okay, okay, sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, so I would genuinely say she enjoys having that many children.
I really think she loves that life.
But, yeah, so that's something that's not allowed in Jewish law.
But I guess once I was doing all the other stuff, this wasn't really such a big deal.
Of course. I mean, that would be ridiculous if you're like, oh, but I couldn't use a condom because it's not allowed in my religion. It's like, yeah, well, fucking people at a sex club isn't either. So call it a day. All the rules go out the window, 100%. So you use condoms, of course. That second trip, you had sex twice. Was it like amazing for you considering this was your first time?
Yeah. It was like, I don't think, I don't think I knew like the best way. I don't think I knew the best way to get a,
about it, to go about it and the best way to do it in a way that is pleasurable for myself.
And I think that probably happens to a lot of people.
I didn't last too long.
It was like, I couldn't believe that like that kind of feeling, that kind of experience was possible.
And as you said, I know it wasn't, I'm sorry it wasn't the first one.
But the second one with the couple, that was also like quite a, that was quite a riveting experience.
Like, like, I guess there's that in a feeling that like, you should.
shouldn't be doing this.
Yeah.
It's like someone else's wife kind of thing.
That adds to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And even though they're obviously like laughing you doing it and it's all consensual.
It's still salacious.
Like I said, it would be like a story you tell people, you know, years later like, oh,
like, you know, I fuck some guy's wife while he watched.
It's, you know, it's not the common story.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, so it was, yeah, that was quite a thrill in a way.
Yeah. So go on. Let's hear some more thrilling stories because, I mean, you know, you get orgies. Do you have like, do you eventually start to see specific couples or are you always going to these sex clubs? Do you eventually start to hook up with people outside?
I've got some girls and some couples who I have like, I have a bunch who I, who I, like, mat in clubs. Generally, because clubs is basically the place where I've met people. And like, I particularly enjoyed it with. And I see them out.
outside too. Obviously, it's in their place. Can't be in mine. And yeah, so I've had a whole range of
different experiences. I guess one that I had quite recently was I got pegged for the first time.
That was a lot of fun. I've been pegged by two girls. And the feeling of being penetrated is
obviously quite different. And so, yeah, that kind of experience was really enjoyable for me.
One of included within some of these girls, some of them are cheating on their husbands,
which again is also a lot of fun.
I've got two or three girls.
Oh, really?
Yeah, three, three who their husbands don't know about our relationship.
And I guess like taking what I experienced to the club to even at a farther level.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I guess I'm kind of trying to just tick everything off the checklist.
And so I've also been successful in like kind of.
pairing up some of the, some of the girls I've met in the club.
Oh, you mean with each other? So you've had a threesome with two girls? Yeah. So we have
like MFF threesomes. I probably had, I must have had like 10 now. Yeah. Quite a few of them
I've had threesomes with like three, four times. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, like two or three of them
who I've had threesomes with a bunch of times. So I guess I try to keep it a bit more exclusive.
of the girls who I see in outside of the clubs.
But I guess I'm doing it.
I kind of want to explore as much as possible,
do as many things as possible,
and just really like live my life
and enjoy as many different sexual experiences as possible.
Well, let me ask you this.
I'm going to get back to more specific stories.
But I want to ask you a quick question
because this is like a secret life that you're doing
late at night or whenever you're doing it.
But you have still this full life
where you're in the seminary,
you're a part of this community that's like I said so insular that you're all connected.
Does anybody see like a change in you?
Does anybody like does anybody know or I mean would anybody have like would these people be
fucking floored if they found out what was going on with you outside of this world?
Yeah.
I'd lose all my friends.
I'd lose probably my family.
I'd lose everything.
And luckily I don't think.
anybody knows. I think it's probably beyond their imagination. Yeah. It's probably beyond anything they can
even imagine me doing. I guess when there's that many kids, I'm the oldest of the six. So when that's
the case and the parents have to look after all the younger ones, like the oldest one kind of just
gets left to themselves. Yeah, yeah. That works. Your favor. I typically like on the weekdays,
It's a long day at the seminary.
I'll probably arrive about 7 o'clock in the morning, and I'll leave at about 10 o'clock at night,
and then, yeah, and then it's off to the sex club.
Do you feel, is there any, do you feel weird about what you do, bad about it?
Do you ever have any kind of guilt?
That's a very interesting question.
I think that is a certain amount of guilt.
And I know, meaning it's definitely, as we have said, it's completely un-forbidden and I'm not in any way in the context of Jewish law, justifying what I do.
It's completely wrong.
And it's quite difficult because I'm being, in a sense, pulled by two opposite worlds and I really don't want to let go of either.
Because although I obviously think there's problems with the culture that I grew up in and that during the day I currently find myself in, it's what I'm used to.
and also a lot that I enjoy about it.
Yeah, it's not black away.
I love that you say that.
Yeah, and I was going to say I have some really close friends,
and my family is wonderful,
and I don't want to drop all that.
On the other hand, I also don't want my culture
to come at the expense of the way I want to experience life.
And what it means is it almost puts me in a situation
where everyone in my community,
doesn't know about what I do at night, right?
And everybody who I see at night
doesn't know about what I do during the day.
Oh, that you don't tell anybody.
Oh, wow.
Maybe in that moment, I feel a little bit embarrassed about it,
and I feel it could potentially be like a bit of a tonal.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
But I honestly think if you're, you know,
it's better to be on DL 100% in both worlds
if you're going to do it.
I don't know.
I mean, I understand that the number.
might be other aspects to why you do it, but I think at the end of the day, bottom line is maybe
it is better because you really can't get caught to just keep your fucking mouth shut.
Even over there at the Swingers Club, where I'm assuming people are much more open-minded
and they're cool and no one's going to rat you out, but you just never know, you know.
Yeah, but I was going to say, though, the disadvantage of that is that, well, I guess now
other than you, there's nobody in the world.
And all my listeners.
There's a lot of people listeners.
Yeah.
There's nobody in the world who actually really knows who I am.
Right.
And that's quite a weird feeling because nobody really gets me for me.
But that leads me to a question that I was just thinking of before.
Because I'm assuming in your religion that at some point you get married early on and it's set up or arranged.
I mean, what happens when you meet that woman that you're going to get married to?
What are you going to do?
Yeah.
I guess I'm trying to.
not to think that far ahead.
But when does that happen in your community?
I don't want to think that far ahead.
So my community, you're right, it happens quite young.
And I guess the general way things work is that, as I said, you do your period of time
in a theological seminary.
And so that takes you up until something like 22, 23.
And then as you said, you can't even in our community really interact with any people
of the opposite sex.
So it's not even like I could choose who I date.
Like I have no way of like accessing somebody.
It's a range.
It's an arranged marriage eventually.
So it's arranged.
I wouldn't say it is arranged, meaning you're allowed to go on a date and you're
allowed to say no.
Okay.
And many people, I guess, get married a bit later because it takes a bit longer to meet
someone that suits them.
But I should say that in our community, when two people marry each other, they don't,
they haven't known each other for the length of the length of the way.
of time that people in the normal world have known each other for, meaning, say, for example,
my parents went on four dates before, and that was it.
They spent, say, so I don't know, let's say each one was two hours.
I don't know exactly how long they were.
They spent eight hours together before my father proposed to my mother.
And that's the typical way that it works.
It's not like you date for two years and then decide.
Yeah, right, because that's the purpose of it.
I get it.
It's because you're going on dates with these people not to go on dates.
You're going on dates to get married.
So if you meet that person and you're like, this is the person.
What's the fucking point of waiting?
A lot of girls would be happy with that.
And then after that, and then after that, and then after that, it's only like a month or two until you get married.
Yeah.
Meaning that you're, when you get married, you're getting married to someone who like, really, you barely know.
Let's be honest.
Are you allowed to get divorced?
Is there any divorce?
Yeah.
Yeah.
is allowed. So you have like a tour, you're 19, you're going to get married by the time you're 23, 24-ish, 25-ish, maybe. I mean, you have a couple years left to have your fun, but you're getting to live experiences that most people don't have at this young age. Maybe, you know, by the time you're 25, you'll have been there, done that. You know, you've already had MFF threesomes many, many times. You've had orgies, right? I mean, maybe by the time you meet that girl, you're just, you'll just, you'll,
be able to hang your hat.
I don't know.
I wonder.
Yeah, I was going to say that even when I look at myself and in the future, say even if it was a
possibility, I don't think I would be personally comfortable to live that kind of lifestyle
with inner marriage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Meaning I'm happy.
I'm happy being a single guy, but it could just be like so drilled into me from where
I come from, but I do see a strong value in fidelity.
And I don't think that's something that I would want in my marriage and an aspiration that I do have, which is to marry somebody, build a home with them.
But maybe the way I think about it, I guess it's not as adventurous and as full of different experiences.
But once you're married, I guess the nature of it is different.
But you do have somebody to have sexual activity with, which like right now, the only way I can access that is in a client.
And I do think in a weird way, because you're doing a lot.
lot like the only thing you can do from now till then is like this crazy sex stuff that some people
never get to live out you're getting you that's all you get to live out because you have no other
access so maybe in you'll be completely fine doing that because you've like I said been there
done that you've had all of these experiences I think it's great that that's your aspiration to do
that that that's what you were raised with that's what you want for yourself I think that that's
great to know that and in a weird way it's kind of great that you're getting this all out of your
system ahead of time because you're maybe even easier for you to be monogamous to that one person
once that time comes because you have had so many experiences and got to you know really do all
these things like i said that most people that are listening to this haven't had those experiences
like what kind of orgies have you had are these are the ones that take place in the sex clubs
Yeah, I've only ever had, actually that's not true.
I have had, there's one experience I'll talk about after, but I guess in the sex club, the one which I go to, I guess I've built quite a decent reputation within the club.
And on Thursday nights, it's basically really only for couples and women, but they allow in it something like up to 10 single men.
Oh, interesting.
And, yeah, and they have one room with, like, an enormous bed.
And then, yeah, there's an orgies take place in there.
And there's lots of women and lots of couples to be able to have sex with.
And we would, in the rooms, we have orgies.
I guess I enjoy it.
I don't really feel it to be so different to a normal sexual experience in the club.
Because I'm not used to sex where you're just in a room and you just have two people.
and there's nobody else around.
I'm only used to sex where you've got other people around me.
So I don't even, I don't necessarily even have so much to say because I just kind of see it
as normal.
Yeah.
That when you have sex, there's other people around you.
And I almost have found it weird when outside of the club I've had experiences where it's like
just me and one other person or two other people.
It's almost like, what do I do?
That's so little going on.
There's so few things stimulating my brain.
Yeah.
Interesting.
And another experience I had, which was really cool, was I tried a club just outside of London.
And they play a game.
I'd never experienced it before.
I don't know if it's something that goes on in a lot of clubs called bad girls.
Oh, interesting.
I never heard about that.
So what they do is they have lots of single women there over the night and lots of single guys.
And they give all the single guys $200 worth in like fake money.
And the girls have to go around and basically pleasure the guys.
And if the guys enjoy it, they then give you a tip.
Oh, I like this.
That sounds like fun.
And at the end of the night, the girl who gets the most money and it gets a prize.
I think the top three actually get prizes.
But that's great fun because they also, for more money, you can purchase more fake money,
which I guess entices more girls come and do stuff with you.
But I mean, that's quite an interesting experience because it's sex within a game,
meaning this girl has like, she's motivated to really pleasure you as much as possible.
Yeah, whoever thought that, that's a smart man who thought that shit up.
I mean, come on.
It's fun for the girl, but think about, like you said, for the guy, it's ideal because
this girl is going to work, is going to give you the best blowjob she's ever given anybody
because if she's competitive at all, which I am, I would be like, oh, my God, I need to make
a lot of money.
You know, you don't want to not get tipped.
So it really puts the pressure on.
What are the prizes they give those girls?
I mean, are they winning like some bullshit prize?
Are they winning something like an iPhone?
or are they winning like a t-shirt?
I think the ones who come first,
the ones who come first,
I think they win like holidays, vacations.
Right.
So it's like a real prize.
Yeah, it's pretty,
I like that contest.
That sounds like fun.
What is it called Bad Girls Night?
Bad Girls, yeah.
Wow.
And so,
and then how much money do you get that you have,
you get to give out a couple hundred bucks or something?
Yeah, so they give you a couple of hundred.
But as I said,
you can purchase some more.
Right.
Because obviously if you run out of money, then no girl's going to come to you because
she's like, well, there's no point in doing that because he's got no money to give me.
So you go and purchase more money.
You'll get the most amount of experiences during the night.
Right, right.
Wow.
Do you go to these clubs like every weekend, every night?
I mean, how many times a month you go?
I guess it depends on what else is going on in my life at that current time.
So when I'm in the theological seminary, which is a long period of time during the year,
if I go every night, I will destroy myself because if I get home at three, four o'clock in the morning,
and then I have to wake up at 6.30, and I do that every night, I will kill myself.
And so I can't do that.
So I guess I go probably twice a week on average.
When I'm on vacation, I go all rogue.
And sometimes I can go like every night for like a month.
Wow.
Yeah.
And I've got family over in America and in L.A.
And a couple of times during my holidays I've been there.
And that's a whole different experience besides clubs in L.A.
How come?
What's different there?
I guess.
Firstly, I think it's much easier to pull girls, interestingly.
Very, very, very easy.
And also, I guess it's just like higher end.
And you see there's often like celebrities around.
And maybe it's just like living in L.A. in general that the place is full of celebrities and it's full of sex clubs?
Yeah.
Like who have you seen in a sex club?
Which celebrities?
So I've seen a couple of porn stars there.
I don't know if you call them, maybe you wouldn't call them celebrities.
Alina Lopez was there once when I went.
And Skybrey.
Yeah, she's an only fan's girl.
She gave me a blowjob, actually.
That was good fun.
Really?
Yeah.
What are you on a scale of one to ten?
What are you on a scale of one to ten?
Yeah.
I think like an eight to nine.
Oh, okay.
So you're very, that's a good rating.
I also think I'm very enhanced by the fact that I've really got a very nicely sized it.
Oh, okay.
You're well endowed.
Yeah.
It's like.
I think if you didn't bring that.
up, I would have never asked that question, and people would have been like, why didn't you
fucking ask him how big his dick is?
Like, here you are saying that that girl, you know, that famous pornster girl blew you.
And I'm thinking, oh, well, maybe it's because he's good looking.
It's like, no, it's maybe because he had a big dick.
In a swingers club, that's like, it's different, you know, it's different rules.
She, I think I'm pretty good.
I think I'm pretty good looking too, but it's like, it's like seven and a half inches and
like thick, but not too thick.
So it's like, girls say it's like, fills them up, but doesn't hurt.
Right, right, right.
So it's kind of perfect.
It's like a perfect size.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So the ones in L.A., you even, so even when you go to visit your family there, you're
looking up to sex clubs and going?
Yeah, for me, like during a, during a vacation, that's really what I want to be doing.
Wow.
It's crazy, right, your life?
Would you have ever thought?
I mean, yeah, it's, I guess, it's, firstly, it's really atypical.
It's not what anybody does.
And I really enjoy both worlds.
I guess people, in a sense, want to escape from the world that they come from.
And I'm not really in that place.
I see a lot of value in the world that I come from.
And I think that there's certain problems, certain restrictions that I don't like.
Yeah, no, that's why I like that.
I like that those both things exist.
And I do think, yeah, a lot of times you just hear from the people that are on the more extreme ends.
either the person that buys totally into it or the persons that like fuck this, I don't buy into any of this because of these little things.
But you're like, listen, there's certain things that I think is like not right, but there's a lot of it that does work for you and you do like it and you want to remain in that community.
It's interesting.
But I think that that's admirable.
You know, I actually think it's lucky of you that you feel that way.
You know, it is truly just the way you feel.
I think it's harder for that person that wants that, that does.
denounces at all because sometimes they do lose their family and they lose that. And it doesn't
sound like you're, you, you are trying to hold on to it just because you don't want all those
ramifications. It just sounds like you, it's like you said. It really is like you like you like
where you come from and you want to remain in that community and you have a good relationship
with your friends and your family and you want to have a traditional marriage. But you
enjoy this sex that you're having too. Such it's so fascinating. Yeah. And I guess
I was thinking about it, though, part of the reason could be because the only people you ever hear about who do all these crazy things are people who completely rejected their lifestyle.
Right.
It's the only way.
The culture that they come from.
Yeah.
I'm only getting this story because I'm letting you be anonymous.
So that's why I'm getting this fucking story.
Nobody else gets this story because people don't keep people anonymous.
And by the time that person, if they're out there talking, if somebody in your community is out there talking about going to sex clubs, they're out.
They have to be out or they're going to get kicked out.
So, yeah, I mean, I wonder if there are other, there has to be other people like you.
Right, but probably a very small percentage of people.
I would assume so.
I mean, really, I have no idea.
I can't tell you.
I would think that it wouldn't be so many people.
But who knows?
Who knows?
Maybe there's lots of people who.
Yes, let's put a shout out.
I want to put a shout out to anybody like, are there any other errands out there?
Are you an Aaron?
If you're an Aaron, quote unquote, Aaron now is code for.
I'm an ultra-Orthodox Jewish man who goes to sex clubs.
Email me because I want to know if it is probably, because like, listen, you know,
just the way you found your dick, it didn't know what it was, but it was getting hard and then you stroked it and you're like, oh, this feels good.
You know, you're a human being, first and foremost, and an animal, first and foremost.
So these kind of natural urges and curiosities have to come up in every guy, right?
Nobody talks about what they do, but how creative have these other people got?
I think your, like I said, your problem solving was very interesting and extreme.
To me, it makes sense.
It's kind of just like you solve the solution.
That was the only way to do it.
so you went to sex club, but I think a lot of other people wouldn't do that, but I wonder what
they do do to get their fucking rocks off, you know?
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think there's so many people who do it in as extreme
a way as I have done.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite a lot of people who do in a certain
sense rebel, but not maybe in the same way.
Right.
They didn't say, oh, I'll go to a sex club.
I mean, it kind of evolved.
It's like a snowball for you, you know?
One thing led to another, led to another.
And then, like, someone just said, go to, you know, the only fans girl that told you.
And you're like, okay, you know, what else were you supposed to do?
It kind of makes sense in your life and your path and how everything was set up.
But most people, I think, wouldn't make that jump or leap because I just don't think it would snowball in the same way.
But, yeah, there's probably a lot of other people in your community that are, like,
having sex or rebelling or masturbating or Googling porn, you know, as well, like, duh.
Oh, yeah.
If you're talking about, if you're talking about, if you're talking about masturbating porn,
I think that's right.
No, I'm talking about sex, you know, what about these, like how many people are in your
community are really virgins men when they meet that first girl and how many aren't,
how many, and how many women?
I mean, women get horny too.
girls find their clit and like what the fuck is this you know and they might sit on something and it feels good
girls have the same thing so i just wonder how far other people have taken it i think you're probably
the minority of course i don't know that there's probably that many errands out there that's why i love
that you called into my show and i have this story because to me it's like fascinating i think you know
you probably have a lot more hot stories i have to wrap it up now but you probably have a lot more
hot stories. I just think that there's so many other parts of this story that were interesting
that I had to focus on too because it's such a, I like that kind of stuff. You know, you can't take
that out of this story. You're not just, you, I mean, there's a lot of aspects to this that is
fascinating. The fact that you're like a young guy that got into sex clubs, but, you know,
the fact that you're in this really religious, had this really religious upbringing. I mean, there's
so many parts of it that are interesting altogether, you know. It really is like the perfect storm.
And it's a great story. And I thank you so much for coming on and sharing it with me.
I don't know. I'm trying to wrap this up. And I sound like a stupid ass.
I was going to say maybe you have to have me back on so I can tell more stories.
Yeah, yeah. And I would like to see your evolution. I would assume you're never getting caught.
I would hate to see you get caught because you are very close with your family and your community.
and you would never want to lose all that.
But I don't think that you will.
And I'm hoping that's not the update I get from you.
I just will have another talk when you've had more experiences.
Or when you, you know, and I'd love to know when you get,
do meet that girl in your community that you fall in love with
and have a relationship and wind up happy.
That's interesting too, you know?
The whole thing is interesting, the evolution of Aaron.
Can I ask you if you would have any advice,
is that like how I should proceed, given what I do?
like, can I carry on doing it, how long, as I'm
should I carry on doing what I do, when should I start?
I mean, you know, it's hard.
It's like, how do you stop now?
I mean, I think that like you do want a white picket fence kind of regular vanilla
life that is appealing to you that I just think maybe it's going to work its way out
of you.
It's like some people are attracted to this lifestyle because they are anti that
kind of a situation or what you're looking forward to in the rest of your life, you know.
And so they could never be without it. But I think that, you know, you might just work yourself
out of it from like the experience. And when you do finally meet a girl that you get married
to that you find, you might wind up doing it till the end. I don't know that you, like what
advice I would give you, like stop doing it when. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that
you need my advice. Yeah. I don't know. You don't know.
I don't sound confused. Maybe that's what it is. You just don't sound confused to me.
I just, I don't think I'm confused right now, but when I look into the future, it looks a bit hazy.
Yeah, don't look into the future. This is what I think for you. I think you know enough about yourself right now that we know probably what your future looks like. Your future probably looks like you have six kids and you're married.
to a woman that is your same religion and you're monogamous and you're, that's where you're at.
Right now, you're not there yet.
But so I think it'll all work out that you wind up there.
You don't need to know what happens in between now and then.
But I, so you know what I'm saying?
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Meaning when the time comes, things will sort themselves out.
Yeah.
You're clear about what you will.
want on your future. Right now
you're doing this and you're young and you're
experiencing things. And I
think that when you
feel differently about it,
you'll know. I think eventually
you'll give it up. Yeah.
And do you think I'll miss it?
No. I think you're getting your
fucking fill. I don't know. Maybe when
you're like 40 again, you know,
it'll come back around. You'll be like, oh my God.
But I mean, you're going once
a day when you're not in the
seminary two times a week. I mean, I think you're having your fucking fill. I don't know. I mean,
I'm being a psychic at this point by predicting things. You're going to, you'll know that for yourself.
And, you know, listen, if it turns out that by the time your traditional lifestyle is presented to you
and you are like, wow, I can't give this up and I can't, you'll have to cross that bridge.
That'll be an interesting conversation if you get to that place. But you just don't know how you're
going to feel. And I would wait until you have to make those decisions to figure out. You don't
need to figure it out right now because you don't, those decisions aren't in front of you.
Thanks. I think that's good advice. Yeah. So keep me posted. I love this story. It's fucking fascinating.
I could talk to, you know, you just about all the traditions and your religion and everything for 10 hours.
It's like fascinating because I don't know much about it. But do me a favor. Send me a picture of the traditional
outfits that people wear or like a picture of you in one without a face like that I could post if you have because I think that that's
interesting part of this thing for my
Patreon if you want. If not, that's fine.
I'll just Google it, but.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I want to send one of myself.
And I guess if I do it without my face,
it's like without the hat.
It doesn't look. So it's just like a suit
and a white shirt. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to Google it.
I'm going to put pictures up on my Patreon. I'm going to
do me a favor. Google. Like, send me something
like a stock photo of like what
what it is that represents what we're talking about.
It would be interesting to me. Yeah, I'd like to post that.
I'd like to see it. I'm going to go Googling. But I want to
make sure that I'm posting like the real deal. So do that. And thank you so much for sharing your
story. Thank you so much for having me. And I was going to say that if any girls who are like a bit
like me email you, please put them in contact with me. I will for sure. Or any other errands if we
find somebody within your community that has the same thing or wants to talk to you. I think that
would be interesting too. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for having me. Thank you for calling in. Thanks,
Aaron. Thank you. Bye-bye.
Bye.
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