Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 561 - Kelly and Ryan Recently Started Swinging

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

Kelly and Ryan recently started swinging and they both called in to talk all about it. How and why did they decide to start swinging? How did they feel about it when they first started? And, how do they feel about it now? Tune in for all the details which include the app that helped them open up about their sexual fantasies, how and why they started looking first for a single female but wound up looking for single men, their first threesome with a guy and exactly what went down, how Ryan was jealous at first and why he’s not anymore, how June enjoys women and lives seeing Ryan with them, their rules they have that work for them, how they used Facebook to find other swinger couples, how and why they are fine with their friends and families knowing about their “lifestyle,” the foursome they had and what made it so hot, the surprise threesome Ryan gave Kelly and how and why the sensory deprivation was a total turn on, why their both prefer bisexual people, how June’s mother caught her early on hooking up with one of her girlfriends, June’s experience with fisting and squirting, what’s on their bucket list moving forward, why they joined Onlyfans and a whole lot more. Onlyfans link; https://onlyfans.com/super_soak_her **To see anonymous pics of Kelly + anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You'll see my guest today too there. Send me in Picks. Today I have on Kelly and Ryan. First of it was just going to be Ryan when I was on the phone with him and he wasn't talking much. I'm just like, is your wife there like get her on the phone? And then she came on. So it was like kind of impromptu that I had the both of them on.

But it turns out it was great to have them both on because this is a couple who were totally, you know, vanilla and regular monogamous. relationship and they are now swingers in an open relationship in the lifestyle for the past five years. How did that happen? It was like an app. You know, remember that girl I had on recently who started like the sexting app? It's such a great idea. It was all about sort of getting those conversations about your fantasies going. And that's what happened in their relationship. Ryan decided to bring an app into their marriage and they used this app. I forget what it was called. He's going to mention it in the episode. And it really,

really brought things up and out and on the table that they both wanted to do like naughty things and then they started to do them and you know fast forward five years later they're having threesomes she's will hugging with women other men he's hooking up with other men she's down to see him hooking up with other men she's squirting she had never squirted her before he's fissing her she's fucking loves it even though it took a while to get there and they are doing it all and it completely changed your lives. And listen, they are recently very open with what they're doing.

And when you find out where they meet couples, okay, listen, they haven't been to a Swingers Club yet, even though they've been doing this for five years because they live like in the middle of nowhere, they said. So they like meet couples and all the people they play with on apps and also on Facebook. Okay, like who would have thought? They talk

all about like these secret private groups on Facebook where like Swingers exist and you could hook up with other people. And that was the news to me. So anyway, they talk about all of that stuff, including, you know, all the stuff that they've done, why and how they started it. And then how they opened up. I mean, like a lot of people in their lives know, they put it like out there, what they do. They are out and proud. They talk about what is on their bucket list.

They also recently started OnlyFans because they like to know that other people are checking them out. You know, they have that little thing. It's a turn on for them. So if you want to go check them out on OnlyFans too, they give their shout out. If you don't want to join the OnlyFans, but you want to see, you know, Anonymous them, join my Patreon, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. But I'm going to be right back on with Kelly and Ryan. Hi, Kelly and Ryan.

Welcome both of you to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you guys today? Pretty good. Good. Good. Okay. So listen, you are, I don't know much about you. I couldn't find your initial contact with me, but I know that you were in the lifestyle,

the two of you. and you called in to talk all about it. Now, are you guys married and in the lifestyle? Are you dating in the lifestyle? We are married. We've been married for 14 years now. Oh, okay. And how long have you guys been in the lifestyle?

About five. Okay, so how did that... Were you guys very vanilla beforehand? Or did you, like, dip your toes in the water slowly? I mean, how did you go from being, not being in the lifestyle, to being in the lifestyle? What happened? Or how did that come about?

It was pretty vanilla in the beginning. Got a... app on your phone. You mean it opened up the lines of communication. It was like an app that got you guys talking about like the dirty things that you were into that you had never talked about before? Yes. And so what were those things that you started bringing up both of you guys?

Like the things that you were into that you had never brought to the table? Wanting to get into bondage. There's one that it was created dating profile for your spouse. Uh-huh. He set up a tender for me and put me as straight. And I'm like, just because we're married doesn't mean I'm still attracted to women. Uh-huh. So that brought up the whole swinging side of everything.

Well, how you've been with women before you hooked up with Ryan, Kelly? Yeah, I dated a woman for about three years before we got married. Oh, okay. So you would, what is that term nowadays that they say? Like you would be bisexual, right? That would be the correct word. So Ryan knew that. Yes, he knew I dated her.

But you never played with girls when you were married. Not before that, no. Right, right. So now when you went on that app, like, did you do a real Tinder profile and then people started hitting you up? It was a real profile. I don't remember if he published it. Mm-hmm. I really used anything from it.

It just opened up the communications of, okay, well, having a threesome is kind of a fantasy. Well, I'm still attracted women. I'd be up for it. Yeah, that's an interesting, what is it, not experiment, but something to do. with your partner just to see how well you know them and then they could be like, no, you forgot to add this and whatever. It's like a great conversation starter. Yeah, it opened up a lot of gotten about or got complacent with over time. Yeah, and how often does that happen in a married couple's life? Probably to everybody at some point, right? Yeah, and it definitely spiced up our sex life.

So, Ryan, did she set up a profile for you too? Yeah. And that was part of it. It is, we each made a profile for each other. And she pretty much got hers dead on. And I said, I didn't really realize she was still into females. Awesome. And then is that what you first, was that your first thing that you guys went looking for, a girl to come in and have a threesome? Or how did you guys get started actually doing stuff?

Yeah, that's how we started out looking. It's very hard to find a single female and where we went with that. And now that threesome with the guy, what were the rules and stuff going in? Were you into guys too, Ryan? you going to try that out or was it just going to be like you're going to get into seeing her with a guy? We kind of seeing her watching and observing, but the more we talked about it and other people were kind of like, you might want to be prepared because you never know how things go when

everybody gets naked and fun starts happening. So, yeah, that was my first bisexual experience. Oh, interesting, that first threesome with that other guy, the first guy. Yes. Yeah, that was my first time with the guy. And now, Kelly, did that turn you on? seeing him with the guy? It did. It was something unexpected. One of those parts I'd never really thought of or explored myself with. That's interesting. So you never knew that you were into like

guy on guy action until it was right in front of you. Right. Yeah, I feel like I hear that a lot. And a lot of times I like to ask that question because I think a lot of people may never know what they would really be into or not because they don't try new things. Like here you are. You never thought that your guy was going to be, you were going to be into seeing your guy with a guy and your guy, Ryan, who's on the call too, didn't realize that he would be down to be with a guy. But you guys all had a great first experience, I'm assuming? Yeah, it was pretty good. The only downside was he got called into work early and had to leave.

Who, Ryan or the guy? The guy. Oh, hilarious. So you guys were like playing in the middle of it. Like, what was he a fireman or something? Like, what the fuck did he have to go do at work? No, he's a manager. So they had somebody call in.

So he had to go fill in. Mm-hmm. So that was your first experience. So what happened after that? More females. And like you said, it's so hard to find a female who will follow through. So we wound up talking to a few couples, met up with a couple, met at their house even, I think. So awkward.

Oh, really? How come? It took us a while to break the ice and wound up playing like a game of truth or dare beforehand. And it turned out pretty good, though. Now, do you do, because listen, I think a lot of couples go into it in different ways and they have different system in place of how to do it. A lot of couples know for sure they want to have a lot of talk and a lot of meetings beforehand that don't necessarily or definitely are not going to lead to sex. Some couples go right into it. You meet them at their house to get down that first night.

Is that what you did? Typically, we do before we meet. Uh-huh. And then we'll meet, depending on the person, depending. on the scenario, whatever. We'll meet it either in their house or a hotel and get together. Usually that first night we meet. We have gone out with you and not played in the first meeting

and gotten together with them again afterwards. But were there any, like, because I forgot to ask this about the guy too. I mean, because you were vanilla couple who had never played with anybody else, and now you're bringing in different people. Were there any kind of reservations that either one of you had about seeing your partner with the member of the same sex or the opposite sex or any of that kind of stuff going on that you guys talked about? Did you have a safe word? Like if, you know, someone wasn't down with it, you get the fuck out?

Into this, I was kind of, so it took a long time for her with another guy and enjoy once we got past that. So now, your jealousy, were you able to turn that into, like take that same energy that was jealousy and turn it into a turn on? Is that what happened to you, Ryan? Yeah, kind of. It was a, uh, More at first is, you know, that's my woman, don't look at her. But now it's more that's my woman. She's going home with me and I enjoy her showing herself off and guys looking at her and randomly try to get people's attention.

Right, because of the same situation, it's your girl. You get to go home with her like that. You got the prize. Yeah, yeah, exactly. She's mine. I get to go home with her, but you can look at her and it makes me feel good that other people are checking her out and makes her feel good. So the wins for both of us.

It's done a great deal for my confidence. Yeah, and for you, Kelly, how about you seeing him with other women? Oh, I love it. You do. And is that because you're into women anyway? Because I'm into women and because I know what he can do and pleasure he can bring. Did you have any like of those same rules that everyone starts off with? I know that they typically fall to the waist.

A lot of couples start off with like, oh, you can't kiss or no full swaps first. I don't know. Did you have any rules to begin with? Not really. I mean, there were a few like no, no permanent marks, no bleeding, nothing extreme. Mm-hmm.

Everything else, it was pretty much on the table. Oh, and no overnights. No sleepovers. No sleepovers. And all the conversations were... So no solo play outside with each other. Like, she couldn't go hook up with men or women on the side and you couldn't as well. solo? Correct. And now, did you start ever, did you ever guys ever go to swingers clubs and all that stuff?

I don't, like I said, I don't have the list in front of me of like what you guys have done and not done yet. Not yet. We just haven't found the time. Right. You're not near a big city. So now do you, what apps do you use to meet couples? Is that, are you on a couple of apps? Isn't that how you meet them? We use. You're kidding me. Wait, Facebook has like swinger groups and shit like that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's, that's probably. where we found the majority of people we talk to is through Facebook. There's big group chats where everybody's just in their chat, kind of talking to them. You can kind of get to know a little bit about them and then move it to a private. There's a lot of region, like your state. They're there. Yeah. Oh yeah. They're kind of hard to find sometimes, but they do exist. And now why are they hard to find? Are they undercover like their titles are

different and you have to know how to look? Because I would never, I mean, as long as I've been doing my show, not one person has ever used the word Facebook and swinging in the same sentence. How come? Yeah, they're kind of hard to find. Most of them are private. Or private, so you really don't find them. A lot of times it's more people invite you to them that have been in them. What are some of the names?

Can you give out names? There's a central Indiana lifestyle, pineapple friends. Fumpy pineapple. Anything with the, so if people are looking on Facebook, anything with the word pineapple in it. Or lifestyle. Or lifestyle. Or pineapple. There's also a lot of polygroups.

Or swingers. Wow. And so they're private. So nobody else could see whether you're a member. But what's interesting about that and I think actually really helps is that you, I mean, listen, when you're in a Facebook group, you're not, there's someone's profile isn't totally open. You just see their name and, you know, the basics. But you do see their Facebook profile. So you do see a picture of them and stuff, right?

Yeah. And you can, most people. If they have a public profile, you can actually go to their Facebook page and kind of scroll through some of their posts and stuff and kind of get a fill for. Right. Now, how did you find out about the Facebook groups? How did you guys find out? Did someone tell you that you met, like, that you hooked up with? Because I would never, I don't know about them.

I think it's going to be surprised to a lot of people. I think it was just a random, just leave us on kick. And kick has a lot of groups. And boom. And boom. They were. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. Does anybody in your, I mean, how long have you guys been doing this for, by the way? Did I ask you that already?

Yeah, about five years. About five years. Now, have you ever bumped into anyone, like in any of these Facebook group apps? Because, you know, you would know if they're on your Facebook friends or a friend of a friend. I don't know. Like, have you bumped into anyone you know in the vanilla world in your Swinger lifestyle? He went with at Lone for a long time. Never knew that they was into the lifestyle. And we just kind of met and was like got out to a group. And there he was. Oh, my God. Crazy, right? And they see him.

Yeah. Talked and actually got together with him. And now he's one of our playmates. No way. Yeah. So that guy, wait, and you went to friend with him, went to school with him, Ryan? Or both of you guys did? Yeah, we both did.

Yeah, we did it in high school too. Wow. And would you have ever known? And would people know that you guys do this? I mean, I always typically think that it's like the people next door. You just would never have any idea. They don't look any different. A lot of times it's the ones you'd never expect. At first, we was really secretive about it. Didn't let anybody know in the last, you don't like it. Tough. Oh, interesting. So how have you put it out there? You know, because listen, even vanilla people don't just go around talking about their sex life. That's what I always say. I mean, everyone thinks like, like, oh, do they tell their family and they keep it from their family? It's like regular vanilla people keep their sex from their family. I mean, that's just normal. You know, and most people don't put that shit out there.

So how do you... A lot of it is just like pictures about pineapples or married with benefits or the side-down pineapple decals on the back windows of both of our cars. Oh my God, hilarious. I heard him whispering to the cars. That's hilarious. So that's, I mean, if you think that that's subtly telling. people. That's like blatantly saying, hey, we're down. We're into it. I mean, upside down

pineapple. I asked somebody leave up at the window of my car last week saying that we're twins and drew a little pineapple on that. Oh my God, hilarious. I'm surprised they didn't leave their phone number. Some kind of contact or something. Yeah, that's so funny. So do you get hit up a lot in that group or do you go looking for people or I don't know. I mean, how many couples do you guys play with? have a million questions. At that moment, we have two couples that we play with, a handful of guys, been talking to a few females, but with a family and work, we kind of have to make time, and it's not always frequent this time of year.

Right. Yeah. From now through December, through the holidays, it's like really effing busy time, right? Yes. Yeah, totally. It goes by so fast. So what is your guys favorite hookup? I mean, do you like, do you prefer it?

when you have a third guy, like a threesome with a woman, or like a foursome swap? What is top of the mountain for you? Or all of the above? All of the above. They all have their advantages. I mean, well, why don't you tell me each one of you guys, like Kelly, why don't you tell me what you love or specific scenario that went down that for you was like a great experience? So one of the couples that we were playing with. The end of our play session that did that night, her top of her, and the two of us women were making out. And it was, it was just a very connected. Right. Everybody's touching everybody at some, like in some way. Like you said, 100% connection. Pleasure. There was nobody left out. Everybody knew where everybody was. Right. And now, Ryan, what about for you? Do you have any like scenarios that

stick out in your mind that you was your favorite or is you know one time or my favorite would probably be blindfolded surprise threesome she know what was going on we kind of just went out to eat and got a hotel room and I've been

talking to a guy that we talked Oh wow you know I've heard a lot about this blindfolded stranger sex scenario that so many women love and you know what a girl just told me Casey the episode I just posted She was saying that like when you're blind And it makes sense that the sex, and I guess it's the same with Gloria holes too.

Like maybe you feel things more because like one sense is being taken out of the equation that all your other senses get ramped up. So supposedly, I don't know. You guys do because you've done this, right? Kelly, you would be the one answering this question. Is it like the sex so like great because you are blindfolded and you feel and experience things even more so? Yeah. And to make it even better, even more, like, sensory deprivation. Yes.

He had earbuds in my ears playing music, so I couldn't even hear anything. I couldn't see anything. I couldn't move. I was just tied to the bed. Oh, wow. And that was, you didn't know that was common. We had talked about the scenario before, and we had talked to this guy before. But I didn't know he had it planned for that night.

Yeah, that's one you definitely consent from the woman before you just hire up. and have some strange person show up and start playing with their. Oh, yeah, exactly. Make sure she's okay with that. Now, I know that you did say in the beginning, Kelly, that you were like into bondage, like that was something that he put on your profile. Is that something that you guys started to get into once you got into this world? Or were you guys into that beforehand?

Yeah, it's something we started after we started playing in the lifestyle. They had a rope, bondage rope course locally or semi-locally. Uh-huh. So we put that, and they did some different basic knots and some ties, and it just kind of started a love of that. That's like Shibari kind of thing. I've heard of that. Yes. And so do you get in, like, who's the dominant, who's the sub in this situation?

He's the dominant one. But every now and then we're a switch. Do you play with bondage with other couples as well, or is that something you just do with each other? It's something we just do with each other now. there's a couple of couples that we've played with for a little while, so we're starting to get a little bit more of that in bondage with couples or more people involved. Right.

And now, do you have, like, what's your guys type? Do you happen to have the same type when it comes to women and the same type when it comes to men? I think a lot of times the hardest thing about couples going out and meeting other couples that they get down with is the problem of attraction that every single person in that equation is going to be attracted to every single person in that equation. For the most part, we do.

We like thicker women. He likes them a little thicker than I do, but I'm down with a lot. And then as far as guys, I like the big guys. And what about you, Ryan? I mean, like she said, you're into bigger girls than she is, but you'd Kelly sound like you're still down with whatever, right? I am down with whatever. I love that.

I had once had a, it was like a hardcore Jewish Orthodox. couple on my episode of one of my favorite sound bites were like the woman the wife it was said oh you know my husband said to me like let's make a decision like are we going to decide to be picky or are we going to decide to be like slutty like which way are we going to go and she's like I just said let's be fucking slutty I was like oh my god definitely have a bloody part down that's the way you guys are yeah not that picky we're like no we're not too picky that is hilarious and what about you Ryan, do you have like a type when it comes to men? I mean, do you still hook up with guys? I know you had that first guy on guy experience, that first threesome. Is it something that you do a lot now?

Pretty much every, we tend to look for couples that are by now. It's body and everybody being able to play back with a straight person. There's just that weird awkwardness. You never know, you know, are you going to freak out if we touch or something by is just so much fun and everybody gets to play with everybody. Yeah, yeah, totally. And now I was just talking to someone about this, and I'm sure you've heard it on my other episodes. I mean, there tends to be a lot of stigma around by guys within, I mean, we all know it exists in the regular vanilla world, but even, even exists in the lifestyle, in the swingers world. And now I know you guys don't go to swingers clubs. So that's probably why you've had so much luck playing with other guys, because it tends to be a little

bit still frowned upon within the club scene. Have you heard of that? Yeah, it's definitely a lot of negative image toward it. Yeah. But there's a lot of more by guys than what most people realize. Exactly. Say it's great until you get into a private chat and they're like, well, by the way, I don't mind doing this and this and that. Isn't that interesting? But they want to keep it on a down low, not everybody knowing that they do that. Right. So they exist. They just don't want to say it, especially in that scenario. That's, that's the fucked up thing, right? I mean, it's got, I think it's changing and it will definitely be much more open soon. I think we're, you know, it's, I watch all these shows with my son and on every show I'm watching with my son. I don't see any heterosexual couples. Every kid, and these are like

little kids in high school and middle school and they're like dating guys and the girls are dating girls. You know, it's very open. And so I think the world is very much changing. And I was very surprised to hear about the stigma that guy on guy action had within the lifestyle, because you would think that's where people would be so open-minded, but I've had a lot of people say it's hard, especially when you have a couple like you and you're looking for a by guy. So you find that most typically they'll say they're straight, but then you get into it and they're like, okay, I'm down with that. Open if they're by, but the straight are single guys that say they're straight. Most of the time, once you get into a chat and start talking, they're a lot more open to

things than they lead on. And now on your guy's profile when you're on these sites, does it say that you're by guy, so these guys know going in, or do you tell them, do you also keep that a secret? No, I'm pretty much open with it now. At first it was...

Have any, because you do keep these like pineapple things on your cars and all this shit and you're saying like you don't really care so much and you're just putting it out there. Has anybody in your vanilla world come to you and said like, hey, what's going on? Like, are you guys swingers? Like, tell me about Because I know if I were your friends and I got wind of it or thought there might be something, I'd ask a million questions.

So has anyone come to you with any questions? There's a few. Like me? They don't want to know, knowing that we're in it, that they know. Yeah, I would think so. So they don't ask for specific details, but it's kind of like talked about and out there with a lot of your friends now. Yeah, a lot of our friends. My family pretty much all knows.

I'm sure her parents, her family knows more than they want to admit. they know, but... Wait, but how does your family know? Facebook. What? Pictures of like pineapples and... Wow. ...theirons been up to the crown of pineapple or sharing sexy photos of your wife is fun,

kind of thing like that. Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, listen, on Facebook, I remember when I first started to do my show and I was doing it on the DL and nobody knew. I was always like Facebook was such a weird place. Because Facebook, you know, your Facebook was full of, like, your real friends that were really close with you that knew a lot of things. But then, like, your coworkers, and that's like a different group. And then you have your family.

And it was so hard for me, at least, to navigate because you're like, you know, some things I want just my close friends to know or some things, you know, I don't want my family to know. But it's okay if my coworkers know. I mean, it's just such a mishmash of all kinds of people on there that it's like, wow. What? It's almost like you need a little sub profiles for each. group of people to post certain things. Yeah, but if you're going to come out and you're like, who the fuck cares? What better place to do it there? Because you really are reaching all those people. I mean, you know, like, that's why if you went down on Facebook that you're now makes

sense that your family would know and your friends and stuff, it's, it's funny. It's crazy. I would think it must have been so salacious at first. I know me and my sister would be talking about behind my brother's back if we started seeing shit like that. We'd be like, oh, did you see that on so-and-so's wall, you know? Like, was it controversial? What the pineapple means is usually the best because they'll come up and they'll be like, what's with all the pineapples? Or what's the pineapple? And you tell them, like, oh, shit, okay. Oh, my God. So you'll say that means like we're down, like we have, we're non-monogamous. Like, what do you say back to that when somebody says that to you? Yeah, we usually just tell them that it means we're swingers. Swingers usually that pretty much ends it.

And they know what that means. Wow. So you. really are out there and open about it. I think that that's great. I mean, did you ever think, you know, five years ago that you'd be totally open and okay with everybody knowing this part of your life? No. I did about a lot of my behavior around my family. Uh-huh. So I'm posting these things to Facebook has been a huge step because I've always been a very closeted person. Yeah. And like, how does that change? Does that change the way you interact now in your life and all kinds of or when you go to family functions because you can really be who you are? I mean, it must be very freeing.

My family has really said too much about it. I have a cousin who has just because her and her husband are also in the lifestyle. Uh-huh. Oh, that's interesting. But other than that, no, nobody's really said anything about it, at least not to me. Yeah. But what do you think? Well, like, what shifted in you guys that you guys decided?

I mean, did you have a specific conversation about it? Like, hey, let's put this out there, or did you just start doing, like, putting a little thing out here there? I mean, why the switch? It was more just like finding funny memes there, you know, little pictures that you really like. And I'd be like, oh, I really want to share this one. And fine, just go for it. Yeah.

Okay. So we just slowly started sharing them. And it's kind of a really easy, subtle way to put it out there without having to come straight out and look somebody in the eye and be like, hey, we like to have sex with strangers and random people. It kind of lets them know without actually happen to say it. Right. No, but I mean. Doing it in their face kind of thing. I know that, but I'm just saying, like, what, did you guys have a specific conversation or was there a time where you were like, let's not keep this under wraps?

Like, what changed that you guys decided to put it out there? And you, like, what was that shift all about? Because I think that there's a big, that's a big jump. It's really more about me than him. He's always been okay with being out open and loud about it. Okay. But that's of my family, I've wanted to keep it under wraps. So it's more of being more accepting of me and who I am and this mile.

Yeah. Now, did anyone ever know that you had that long through your relationship with that woman? Or did you keep that under wraps? Oh, no. That was like my mom knew the next morning that we got together. How did she know? I mean, did you wake up with sex knots in your hair? I mean, how did your mother know?

Well, I was in high school. and helped a friend move in. So I happened to work with. She wound up spending the night with me and had alcohol and body shots and tell my mom just that next morning she knew. Oh, my God, maybe you guys were loud. Well, I'm hoping not.

How else would she know? I mean, as of, you know, young girls have sleepovers all the time. You were probably loud. Or maybe she came in. You were drunk. You don't remember. Probably. So she wound up knowing about that relationship.

I mean, you came clean to her. Like, this is someone I'm going to date and I'm into women as well. Yeah. Mm-hmm. She's like, you can't have a girlfriend stay here. Like, all right. So together for about three years. And now, have you, are you guys just strictly like playing with others in a sexual way?

I know you mentioned that there's Polly pages out there and stuff too. And because you did date a woman and you're bisexual. Do you guys ever feel like you would get into the whole Polly thing? Or is this strictly like you're playing with other people just for the sex part of it? We thought about it. We talked about it and decided more for us. This is about a shared experience and experiencing it together. The second relationship or multiple relationships isn't really for us.

Friendship is one thing, but not romantic relationships. Right, right. So you did, though, decide not to do that. I mean, you discussed it. And now how has it helped your relationship as far as, like, do you guys have just so much, like, better sex? I mean, I hear that a lot, for sure. A lot better sex. A lot more frequent sex as well.

Oh, really? You think because you're just so much having so much sex that's kind of like, you know, sex begets sex. Like, the more you have it, the more you want it, right? Almost like a sociable sometimes. Right. I know. I think that that definitely is, that that definitely happens. Have you heard, listen to that girl Casey that I have in my show?

She's so fucking hardcore. And she like had, like, she had gangbings like once a week for a whole year when she was single. It's like, oh my God. I'm like, I think like so much testosterone in you, you know, that it just feeds you into needing more. But I do think the more sex you have, the more you want. Right? And it's more communicative. Oh, better communication with you guys, you mean?

Oh, yes. Yeah, especially with her. She's always been very reserved in her likes and dislikes and desires and wants and much more open. This is what I like. This is what I want. Do this now. You're a little bit more bossy. Wait, so what is you have anything on your bucket list that you haven't done yet? I mean, yeah. So what are those things? Well, go to a sex club is one of them. A gang bang, DVP. Wait, DVP, double vaginal, right? Yeah, DV, right, mm-hmm.

And DP, double penetration. Oh, right, I always get confused. The double V, the DV came up recently, and then once I've heard, I've heard it from a couple of people. I didn't really know that that's as popular as it is, but that's two dicks inside of you, and then DP, anal and vaginal, right? Do you want to do that? You haven't done that with all these couples you've played with? We haven't done this with any of the couple.

We have tried mechanics as kind of. kind of funky on some of them. Mm-hmm. That's funny. Okay. Where do you tip of... Go on. See us on the...

Something we want to try. What is it? An orgy. Oh, an orgy. Okay. And what is an orgy to you guys? How many couples do there need to be or people to make an orgy?

Three couples. Uh-huh. Eight orgy, but almost 20 people involved. Uh-huh. But you guys chickened out? Yeah, we chickened out. Was that very early on in the beginning when you first started? No, it was a couple years in.

It took us a while to build up to some things, worked through some insecurities. Right. And now what were some of those insecurities that you had to get through? Was it just like about your own body or being with other people or like what were those insecurities? In general of how I'm going to be judged or interpreted. And now did sort of facing that fear and doing this help you with all of that, I would assume? Yeah, it has.

It's also helped me be more accepting of my body and love my sophomores. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, I had this wonderful girl Toronto Unicorn on, I don't know if you heard her episodes, but she's also got a YouTube channel. And she was like a solo girl who just like went to a swingers club one day and got fucking naked with not a perfect body and someone who really didn't feel that way. And how doing that completely changed your life. Like the other day she interviewed me for her channel.

And she was like, you know, someone came up to me and said, oh, like, thank you for helping another chubby girl out. And she's like, I forgot that I was chubby. She's like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Like, she doesn't even, she's just so comfortable in her own skin that she just does no insecurities and it really changed her life. I think that that's, it takes balls to do that, right? That must have changed your life for you. Yeah. And now here you are, like, playing with couples feeling completely free.

So you have two couples in your life. Would you send me pictures for my Patreon, like anonymous picks? Did you send me anything? Do I know, do I have that? I keep forgetting because I don't remember where we talked first. Do you have like an Instagram or anything that? Like, do you do this like, you don't do like OnlyFans or anything like that, right? Yeah, we have an OnlyFans.

Oh, you do? Yeah. Everyone's got a fucking OnlyFans now. What's on your own fans? Tell me about that. It's a really new thing. We've had it for, in about two months or so. Well, people don't go check you out.

Tell us what people can find on there. Give your pitch. Who's going to promote your only fans? It is Luna. Okay. And just a lot of everything on there from just naked pig. Oh, Kelly, you know that that's like of my face. Like, I don't know if you listen to my show, Kelly.

I know you said Ryan does, but that's like on my bucket list. I can't figure that. Were you always able to squirt, Kelly? No, it's really something he's kind of figured out. Oh, wow. He's also gotten into. Oh, really? So you started fissing with.

with Ryan and that's something that you started when you got into the lifestyle. Like you hadn't done that before, I'm assuming. Yeah. How did that come into play? Whose idea was that? Been against it. Mm-hmm. But it took a lot of time to get comfortable with it.

It was a lot of stretching, slowly working. Definitely not something. He's some really big hands. Oh, my God. How long did it take you to be able to achieve it? I don't know. It's several months, I'm sure. Wow.

That's interesting. And then now do you absolutely love it? Oh my God. It is amazing. It's a totally different feel to be. The time he kind of switches his hands, you can move all or feel all the muscles, ripple and move inside. You mean your muscles?

Whose muscles? When you say you could feel all the muscles ripping inside, is that your muscles or his? I don't even know. The muscles in his hands. Right. So you could feel that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

He has his whole fist inside and like he can wiggle. his fingers and like adjust his knuckles and you feel all that movement inside against the walls and it's very intense. Is that how you first squirt it? No, actually. Okay. He had me squirting before that. Okay, but that was something new that you tried and then you could squirt through that as well. Now, do you do that with women and men that you play with or do you just let him fist you? Really, he's the only one who's stood me. A few others have made me squirt with some help. So you have videos. People see all this kind of stuff. So you have videos and pictures and all of that's good stuff on only fans. We do. Interesting. Okay. Give that shout out again. It's what is it? Luna Girl?

Luna Rose. Lunal Rose. Okay. And now do you have an Instagram too that is like not a personal Instagram but more so something that you link to your only fans or people could go as well? It's the same thing. It's Luna Rose of the number four and the letter you. Oh, okay. Luna Rose. Okay, and now can you send me in some anonymous picks for my Patreon that I could post there and then send those members over as well? Yeah, we can do that. Okay, awesome. So anything else? What did I miss? I'm trying to think.

I didn't know, you know, this whole time that you guys had an only fan and stuff. So when did you guys decide to just decide to do that because, you know, everyone else is? Why not? Kind of. And it's part of that whole interested party turned on kind of thing. Mm-hmm. So a little bit of an exhibitionist in the both of you or it? Like knowing that people are watching and you're getting people off.

Is that part of it? Oh, yeah. That's great. Well, so, Ryan, I know you're the one that listened to my show, right? You're the one that emailed me or found me on Instagram. Yeah, thanks so much for calling in and telling your story. I hope that a lot of people go and check out your Only fans. Like I said, I didn't know you had one, but I think that that's great.

Nowadays, you know, why not if that's what you love to do? And a part of it is like, oh, you get off on knowing you're turning people on. I think, you know, back of the day, all people had was like camming and stuff, right? Private camming. Now you could do this and it's kind of like you're like camming, right? We like taking pictures anyway, so why not post them and share them that way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. All right, well, people could go check you out on your only fans as well on Instagram.

So anyway, thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. What is that app? I really have to say, I think that that app that you guys used in the beginning that got you guys talking is so great. I had a woman on recently who had like a sexting app. It was kind of the same idea. And I thought, well, like, how great that is because it really gets a couple talking about things.

And it's a great way for someone to throw in to their partner, something about what they're really, like, secretly into. What was the app that got you guys talking that you used? It was called Desire. Desire. And whose idea was that? And it was fun because you could especially start out very mild. And then as the more you play that you could kind of get it.

you know, more steamy, more X-rated challenges. Here's the one who found it. I signed up for it. Sent me the link originally. Yeah, I think that's great. It was a lot of fun and definitely helps open up communication and an easy way to put out those things that you want to know or want to do that you kind of feel awkward trying to talk about in person.

Yeah, do you guys think if you had to answer this question, like would do you think you guys would be doing what you're doing now? if you hadn't ever got that out? No, definitely not. Wow. That's super interesting. You know, I think that that's like a really important takeaway from this episode. You know, how does a couple go?

Because I think that there's a lot of couples out there that maybe want to cross the line or are thinking about this. And, you know, maybe it's just the wife listening and thinking about it or the husband or together. You know, how do you go about doing it? I think, you know, it's all about communication and what a better way to communicate then through an app, it's kind of, it takes away that awkwardness of sitting across and just doing it together at first, right? That app is like a middleman almost in the beginning. And it really could

help break the ice. Look, you guys are like living your best life doing a lot of things that you would never think of doing. Your fisting, squirting, you know, Ryan's watching. He's hooked up with guys and this is all stuff because you guys got that app and decided to start talking about your fantasies. Like how crazy is that? I think that's so interesting. That's great. I was always very reserved and very shameful, embarrassed of anything sexual growing up. It definitely pulled me out of my comfort zone and made me a lot more comfortable with everything. Yeah, because it's like a domino effect.

I mean, it made you more come out of your shell about all the things that you were into. And then it also got you more in touch with your body and accepting of who you are and comfortable with all of that. so it's kind of like a win, win, win for everybody. So Ryan, high five to Ryan for finding that app. How did you even find that, Ryan? Like, what was, why did you think, oh, I'm going to get this app and put it out there? Or is it because you really wanted this to be the end goal? No, kind of spice up your sex life thing.

Uh-huh. Give you some advice or, you know, different. Yeah, that's awesome. I love it. I think that that's great. What a great app and what a great story that came out of it. So thank you so much to both of you for calling in and sharing your story. And I hope a lot of people go check out your OnlyFans.

It's new. It's up and running, though. So I typically send a lot of people for my show. I have a lot of listeners. So hopefully you'll get a bunch of new subscribers. Awesome. Thank you. Thanks, you guys.

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