Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 567 - Jack's Wife has a Boyfriend and he Plays with Others as Well

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Jack’s wife has a boyfriend and he play with others as well and he called in to talk all about it. How did they decide to open their marriage? Why do they only play solo? And, how has opening up their marriage helped it? Tune in for all the details including how and why he decided to confess to a guy on guy experience he had when he was younger, what exactly went down between him and his guy friend that he confessed, how his wife reacted and how his confession led to her cheating with a co-worker, how he caught her cheating and how they worked through it, how she started things back up with the co-worker and how and why he is her solo bull, how he feels about the co-worker being “bigger” than him and how that turns him on, their reclaiming s-e-x, he women and the men he has hooked up with, what he’s into when he hooks up with guys, how he’s a switch and why he hasn’t bottomed yet, how he got his wife into pegging him awhile back, how his wife feels about him being with guys now, why they only play solo, how this has all made their relationship better, their foursome out in public at Fantasy Fest in Key West and exactly what went down, their trip to Hedonism in Jamaica and what went down there, the full extent of his wife’s relationship with the co-worker and how he feels about it plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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that. Just let me know. Today, I have on Jack. I love Jack's story. It's super interesting. It kind of sounds similar to a lot of my other colors, but it's really not when you get the details. Jack is a guy. All he gave me when he first said he was calling in is like, I'm bisexual, and my wife has a boyfriend, and we went to hedonism. I think those were like the only three things than I know. But there was so much more to the story because Jack was a guy that had just one experience with a friend of his in high school and he talks about that experience exactly what went down,

how many times it went down, exactly what they did, and then, you know, he never was with a guy again for a very long time and then, like, deep into his marriage with his wife now, he wound up telling her, he just felt, but it was something that he had never revealed to her. So she was like, what the fuck? Like, it wasn't

really that good of a conversation. She kind of, like, freaked out. Not really freaked out, but she was she was concerned what was the right word I can't fucking talk she was taken aback about his

confession as anybody would I totally understand that you know you think you know someone and then they throw out this thing that they you know hooked up with another guy and they're a guy so she was a little freaked out and then because she was

and this came out later that this was the because she wound up cheating on him at a work party like a holiday work party I talk about how I fuck somebody at a holiday work party on this episode. You'll get that little story. But he wound up finding out that she fucked a co-worker of hers, a BBC, like a black guy with a really big dick. And the reason why I'm bringing that guy up is because she still sees him to this day.

Because after she cheated on him and he found out and you'll find out how he found out, it's interesting. They wound up, you know, getting upset. He was mad that she cheated. She was still upset that he had never told her about. hooking up with guys when he was younger and then they just decided to open up their marriage. It's kind of funny how they decided it was kind of like a tit for tat. Like he's like, you cheat on me so I should get a hall pass. And then she's like, well, what if I fuck my co-worker still?

I don't know. It's like the whole way that they went from being upset about the cheating and having an open marriage was interesting. And it was a quick turnaround, which was interesting to me. I mean, I analyze a lot in this story because a lot of it was like new to me. It was different. And so I do go into deep analysis sometimes, so don't get annoyed.

But it's so interesting because then they decide that they're cool with it. She starts, like I said, seeing that guy. She still sees him. She's been seeing that guy, that co-worker still for a year. I personally was like, that might be a red flag to see a coworker all this time. We dig deep on that. He wound up, you know, going on the apps, and he hooked up with a woman.

He talks about that experience. He also has hooked up with a couple of guys. He talks about all those experiences. He talks about how their full transparency with each other has really helped their relationship. He talks about their reclaiming sex and how great it is. He talks about, you know, what he looks for in guys because he has hooked up with guys. He talks about their, you know, his hookups with them and what has gone down as well as their vacations to fantasy fest they went to and hedonism. go specific into that. Like at Fantasy Fest, they wound up like

hooking up like with a foursome in an open bar area. Fantasy Fest. I don't know. I've never been to Fanny Fest in Key West. It's not like a swinger's thing, but apparently shit goes down there. They like had a little foursome. I mean, it wasn't hardcore, but it kind of was. And then they went to hedonism. And he talks about what went down there. It's super interesting story. Because like I said, it's not like the first couple that I heard from who only, only play solo. They've never really played together. They only play solo, which is interesting. His wife knows he's calling in at the end. I say, like, I hope she listens to him and calls in and explains her side of things, because I wonder a lot about her relationship with this other guy.

I think you're going to be okay with me analyzing things in this because I think the same questions that I have for him are going to be questions that you think about. And you're going to be like, oh, that might be a red flag when I say that's, like, a fucking red flag. But I think that they're good and they're solid. It's so, you know, I did ask him for pictures because his wife knows he's calling in. So hopefully he sent me picks. I have anonymous picks on my Patreon, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.

You could see those there. But anyway, hopefully his wife will call in and tell her side of this whole story. It's super interesting. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Jack. Hi, Jack. Welcome to the Strictly Domus Podcast. How are you today? Good. How are you? I'm good. So, Jack, I know your wife has a boyfriend. I know that you consider yourself bisexual. I know that you've been to hedonism. Is that a resort? That's a resort. Yeah, that's in Jamaica. So am I correct that like you and your wife are in the lifestyle? Is that what you want to talk about? Yeah, sort of. We have a open marriage.

as we say. Now, do you consider yourself, are you guys swingers or you're open in that you sleep with others, but maybe you don't go to swingers clubs? Because I know that there's different variations of being open. Not everybody that's open is in the lifestyle, right? Correct. Yeah, I wouldn't say that we're not swingers, but we both, you know, do our own thing and, you know, have a good time and just haven't done it together.

Oh, that's not true, but we have done some stuff together, but we just don't consider ourselves in the lifestyle. So now, because you're bisexual, is your wife bisexual, too, or is she strictly seeing guys on the side? She's strictly seeing guys on the side. Oh, okay. This is interesting. Tell me how you got to the place where you and your wife

are able to see other people separately without each other, without going through swingers clubs, you know? So, yeah, I mean, basically we just had a, I told her an experience I had in high school where, you know, I hooked up with one of my high school friends and this was like afterward we've been married for like 10, 10 and 12 years. And so she kind of, I never told anyone about it before. And so she was taking a little back by it.

And, you know, eventually she actually cheated on me with another guy with one of her coworkers. Oh my goodness. This is getting good. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's start there. Let's start with that story and your experience with your high school friend. Tell me that story like you told your wife and then tell me how she reacted and then how you caught her cheating.

Let's go there. So it was just, I just told her. I said, you know, I have to tell you something. Like I said, we were already married for like 10 or 12 years already. So I was in high school. and my buddy, you know, he lights me over, says, hey, let's, you know, we're hanging out, whatever else, which is no big deal, you know.

And he has, like, a nice, like, finished basement. And we're just watching, like, playing pool or hanging out downstairs, playing video games. And next thing you know, he's like, hey, do you want some alcohol, something like vodka or something? And I'm like, sure. So next thing you know, we're drinking, we get pretty drunk.

And he's like, hey, I have a porno. And I'm like, all right, cool. So he's like, you want to watch it? I'm like, sure. So. For all the young people watching, listening, just so you know, watching a porno back in your day, I'm assuming it's like a fucking VHS tape, right?

And like, the reason why you'd be watching porn with your friend at that time is because it's like those kinds of situations. Like, you couldn't just watch porn any time, you know? It's like if your friend had a porno, like that was your only option to watch, right? I mean, I think that some people wouldn't understand that whole concept. No, you're exactly right. It was a VHS tape, right? Yeah, you're like, okay, let's watch a porn because

it's like, it's hard to come by. Like hitting gold. Exactly. Yeah. So it was, we're like watching it and we're like drunk, whatever else. And then it got like a little awkward. He's like, he started, like, jerking off. And I'm like, we're sitting on the couch like right next to each other. but he's like what? You don't like jerk off? Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, all right, yeah. Like I'm 17, so like, yeah, I jerk off.

I'm like, all right. So I start jerking off. And he just kind of scoches over a little bit. And he starts like jerking me off. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like nervous, but I'm like drunk. And I'm like, what's going on? And then he's like, you jerk me off. too so I'm like all right so I start jerking him off and then eventually he's like you know can I blow

you and I'm like fuck I'm like all right I guess so so so yeah good guy okay well you know I'm hard yeah I'm just kind of like all right you sure um and so he gets in front of me and just like ends up blowing me on the couch and um like i calmed and i'm like wow like that was like crazy and then he's like well it's like your turn now so i'm like okay i guess so um you know i don't want embarrassed or whatever so so i just did the same thing i like blew him and this is like the first time ever doing that and obviously and never even like a girl never did to me for either so it was like the first time I got a blowjob from anyone. And so I'm like, all right, it got a little awkward, whatever, but then he's like,

all right, I'm going to go upstairs, go to bed. I'm like, all right, I'll see in the morning. And, you know, in the morning, I just, like, left. There was, like, no big deal. I went to school. And, like, two days later, I said, hey, do you want to come back over again? And I'm like, sure. So I just went right after school.

And basically, besides a drinking. like the same, just the same scenario. Just started watching a porno and like jerking off. And he blew me and I blew him. And that was it. Kind of like after I was all done, I'm just like, you know, that's not for me. Or like, I'm not gay. And, you know, never wanted to see him again or do anything like that again.

And so I never did for, obviously, for forever. Now, before that. That was it. But before that experience, had you ever thought about guys at all? Not really. I mean, what's not really? Maybe I'm like, just like, I never like, you know, this is like back in like the 90s. Like I listened to your show before, obviously.

And, you know, like you said, like the kids have it so much easier today. That, not easier, but everyone is such more accepted, I guess. Yeah. Back in the 90s, it wasn't like that at all, you know. So I didn't say anything to anyone or maybe I thought. Like maybe a guy was like cute or good looking, but I really wasn't like, you know, I'm not gay. He's just a good looking dude. Like, you know, he could say anyone like Brad Pitt, he's a good looking dude, you know, or whatever.

Right. But when you were jerking off, did you ever think about guys? I'm just wondering, like, did that thing that happened with your friend sort of turn you on to something that you never thought was possible? Or did you have a slight inkling to hooking up with a guy before that? not really no i didn't have like a really inkling um you've never thought about it no not really i mean not really is not no and i don't you know i don't know you well enough to know how what not really means to you know you might just say not really meaning no that it just might be your fucking lingo but like not really to me means maybe you did like you don't like i don't know

and that's what i'm just trying to dig into that but i mean not that it really matters i'm just curious because you're a bisexual now. So it's like, whoa, would somebody say, oh, this was a guy that maybe was going to go down the straight path, but because he hooked up with this guy and had this experience, it turned him on to something that he never thought he was going to be turned on by and now he's bisexual? You know, is that the story? Because that's an interesting story. Yeah, I mean, I never thought like, I mean, that was, like I said, back in the 90s, that's like, how many years ago, it seems like forever. So I never really thought about it, even like back in like high school. I guess I think just yeah that guy's good looking but you know there's good looking

guys out there I never really thought I would act on it until it happened. All right. So you so you shut it down with him and then you don't do anything from between that time and the time you tell your wife and have that experience like do you have any other experiences with guys besides that guy before you were your wife? No. No so all throughout like college and work and whatever else and not till recently. Okay. Let me ask you this though. during that time, you didn't never hooked up with any guys, but did you ever, you know, use that scenario as a jerk off session? Yeah, I mean, I thought about it, but like I said, I think I was just kind of like,

well, that's something gay people do and I'm not gay. So, you know, that's not for me. So I didn't, I didn't, like, completely shut it out my mind or like. But you never, you never thought about it. You really didn't start, like, really desiring guys all that time, even though you had a little taste of it. That's interesting. Right, literally.

Yeah. You swallowed, I guess. No, I mean, I just kind of like spit it out. It was kind of like all of a sudden, so. Oh, and you're like, what the fuck and you spit out? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's bad. Do you still spit?

Or do you swallow now? No, I never swallowed. Ever? You still don't? No, never. No, never. Okay. Okay, anyway, so let's get on.

So you have these two experiences. You have never think about guys ever again. You're very like blinders on. Like that means I'm gay so I can't fucking do it. You're able to completely disconnect from that experience. But for some reason you decide to tell your wife about it. Why do you think you told her at that moment? Well, just because, you know, we were together for so long and I'm like, I can trust her and I love her.

And like, you know, I don't think this is something. You know, she's pretty open just in general of people accepting of people. and accepting of people. So I'm like, this is something I feel like I can trust and tell her that it wouldn't like blow up in my face. Like so I'm like, listen, I just got, I got to tell you something to happen. I've never told anyone else. And so I told her.

Mm-hmm. And she, I think, was just really surprised and shocked that, you know, there's obviously a whole shitloaded questions after I tell her this. Yeah. So. Just like all my. questions right right right I mean we still talk about it and she still has questions and this has been going on for like a year now so oh this is new yeah yeah just over you I would say okay oh so maybe when

you were like locked down in COVID you're like oh I might as well just pull this story out of the bag and let her know that I slept with a guy once right right exactly that's funny so yeah I told her and she was like, wait, how come, you know, there's a lot, like I said, questions. Like, how come you never told me? I'm shocked, surprise. Does that mean you're gay? I'm like, no. And, you know, so tell me everything.

So I end up, you know, telling her everything and just saying, hey, this is what happened. Why you know about it? And that's that. So, but also, like, you know, it was always like, I'm always like the naughty one in the relationship. anyway. So I've always said like, hey, let's have a threesome. You know, I don't care if it's a guy or a girl. You know, whatever else.

And, you know, she never said yes, but started connecting the dots, you know, as they said. Oh, so was she like, wait a second. Then were you always pushing for a threesome because you wanted to be with a guy? Was that have to do with that guy and guy action you had? Is that what

she was going on in her mind? Because that's what I would think too. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that didn't have to be that way, but if it happened, it wouldn't be, you know, obviously I wouldn't be upset about it. But did you say the same thing to her? No, I never even thought about it like you're saying to me. Not really. Not really. Right, right. Oh my gosh. I know why do I, she still has questions to this day because you're, you're like, you're not a good answerer. I think you need help with your fucking answer. It's not clear. I feel your life's pain. Yeah, I mean, that's a big thing with us, big communicators.

So I try, you know, she digs it out of me. Yeah, you have? Because you have to. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I agree 100%. It's so funny that I could pick that up in what we're at 14 minutes. Okay, so that's funny. Wait, so, all right, so she has all these questions and stuff.

Right. So how long after that do you find out that she's cheating on you? And tell me the story about that. so I don't know exactly when I told her like what month I know when she cheated on me was in December because there's like got a like a work party I guess yeah oh yeah a lot of shit goes out of work parties because everyone just gets wasted

I was fucked like I was like starting as an assistant to my boss and like his old assistant was giving me handing the reins over and teaching me everything I needed to know and then there was a Christmas party and we hated each other I couldn't fucking stand in I think he hated me too, but we got really wasted at the Christmas party and we fucked. And then the guy that I wound up working for, we became friends. We're still friends of this day.

We worked together a long time. I loved him and I wound up telling him. I'll like, remember that guy that you're oldest of sitting there. We fucked at the holiday party. I was like, yeah, yeah. She said shit goes down. Yeah, that's what I mean. And I couldn't stand this guy.

I mean, just stuff happens with alcohol. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right. So how did you find out, though? Well, she came home at like 5 o'clock in the morning. And I'm like, where the fuck were you? Why weren't you her date?

They didn't allow partners at the holiday party? No, I don't know. It wasn't like I wasn't allowed to go, but she's just like, I'm going with coworkers. And I'm like, I know, probably. She goes out with coworkers all the time. So I'm just like, yeah, go ahead. I don't care. She didn't want you there.

Maybe she wanted to hook up with the guy. What was the story with the guy? So he's just a co-worker. And, yeah, like, you know, we talked about later was that she, She, you know, kind of was upset about the whole, you know, high school story that I told her. So this was a little bit more, like, acting out. It was revenge. I don't know it was revenge, but just, like, kind of acting out, like, she was upset about the whole thing.

You know, this guy's a really good-looking guy. Most people are dying right now. All right, all right. He's a good-looking guy, and she wanted to fuck him. So they went to the party and then. And because you slept with your friend and didn't tell me I had to fuck the hot guy in the office. Yeah. When you hear this from the outside end, you're going to laugh too.

I hope so. I hope so. Yeah, well. I mean, but wait, how did you find out? Did she tell you she comes home at 5 o'clock in the morning and then does she like blab that she like fuck the guy? No, so like it was just like it's very unusual for her to come home like that late. Like, you know, come home at 2 o'clock in the morning. That's fine or whatever.

but not at 5 o'clock. So I'm like, there's something definitely up. And, you know, she told me the story. I'm like, that doesn't make sense or whatever else. But like, we get over it, no big deal. No, no, no. You're the worst explainer. Okay, what do you mean she told me the story?

Did it make sense? What story? She made up a lie or she told you about the cheating? No, no. She made a lie saying she went to her friend's, like a friend's house or apartment after the party with some other friends. Yeah, yeah. And it didn't make sense.

to you. Okay. Yeah. And so I'm like, all right. I mean, I guess, but whatever. So, but just over the next couple of days, she was just acting weird and strange and I'm like, something's going on. Like, you know, obviously you've been with someone for 15, 16 years. You could recognize when something's up. Yeah. So just we're sitting on the couch one day and having some wine and you know we're like talking about whatever

we talk about sex a lot anyway and she just I just said like you know what's going on about like whatever I don't even know what we're talking about but she just said like hey listen I hooked up with this guy that night I didn't come home until 5 o'clock in the morning

I really was with him and we had sex oh my goodness she came fast yeah yeah wow so I'm like okay So then it just got into like a big conversation. Then I had questions like, you know, what, how does happen? Who is this guy? I had no idea who he was.

And he's a black guy too, so we're a white couple. So that was like a curve hole too. I was surprised. And then she told me everything. I'm like, wow. And so it was a rough few days a week, you know, like talking stuff out not talking to each other. And then we just kind of had another talk,

and then we just started, like, talking about open marriage. Like, all right, if you get to do this, then I get to do this. And we'll have these rules and whatever else. Okay, but let me ask you this, okay? You know, here she is telling you about this thing. Now, how does she, I'm assuming because you said, she said, oh, because of what happened in your past, it made me upset, so I went and fucked this guy. Like, what did she say when she was explaining it?

She used it kind of, like, her excuse of why she did that was just, like, acting out because she was upset? Like, what was her rationale? Like, do you remember the conversation? Yeah, I mean, that didn't, that part didn't come out until, like, later, like, because we've been, you know, we still talk about it all the time. Like, you talk about communication, right? So we still talk about stuff a lot.

but eventually what we thought about was like yeah she she thought she was just kind of acting out because of what I told her that you know she never knew this about me and that I'd done this and like she felt like you betrayed her so then she went and betrayed you kind of thing I mean it is revengeful and it does happen and it is just like basic human nature sometimes shit happens like everyone's like big babies at the end of the day it doesn't matter how old you are you could like refer to being a fucking baby you know because that is babyish, you know, like she's like, oh, you hurt my feelings. So now I'm going to go and do it. But people do that shit all the time.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it was necessarily just like that. I don't think she was doing it to hurt me in general, but I think she needed to do something to. No, because you hurt her. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. She felt heard. I mean, like, listen, that's why I always say a lot of times I have these younger people on or people who just started a relationship very open and they're so successful in all their swinging and cuckolding and all the shit that they do.

And I'm like, you know, it's because it was so easy to be honest and up front with somebody right from the get-go. Right, right. Then when, you know, all these other people that call into my show who have been with their partners for 20 years and they have never told them about the things that they do. And I think that that's a really hard thing to do because look what can happen.

Someone's like, what the fuck? Because it's kind of like, who are you? You know, how could you be, how could you, you know, like if I'm her, I'm like, how could I be with you all this time and think I know everything about you and you pull out something like this? Right. No, that's exactly what you're thinking. Yeah, it's a very hard thing to do after you, like way harder. And you would think it's the opposite, right?

You would think, oh, you're with this person for so long. It should be so easy to share everything about yourself. But not really. It's actually harder because I think it's kind of like the other person looks at it like, what the fuck else do I not know? Like maybe you're a lot. Like it questions everything. So I do think it's, you know, it's brave of you to put it out there, you know,

but I could also understand how and why she felt so freaked out by it. So I, there's so much more we have to get into because you eventually start seeing people and she starts seeing people. But like with the guy at work, did you know, do you know and believe for a fact that this was not something that was happening before and that was the first time? Is there any chance that she was like doing something with that guy before and then she just used this time as an excuse to be like, oh, hey, you know, throw it in your face? Or was that definitely the first time? I definitely believe her when she said it was the first time. Right, right. So I don't think it was going on beforehand.

Yeah, no, I'm saying like, listen, I think you know your wife. Just like you knew something was fucking up that time. There is it like, listen, that story could be very well. I think some people are listening and be like, oh, yeah, she's. was probably fucking that guy before and then she just decided to tell you because you told her, you know. So that's the only reason why I brought it up to just get confirmation on that.

So to shut the people up from like commenting on YouTube about that. But I trust your instincts because like I said, you knew when she was something was up before. But the way she explained it to you, you could tell that it was really just her first experience. She had never cheated before you guys were and you were always faithful to her, correct?

Yeah, correct. Yeah, we never cheated on each other. at all. Now, did she feel really bad about what she did? Yeah, yeah, I think she did. She thought like we're definitely getting divorced and thought, you know, we're on the outs and this is, you know, it's a terrible time. And it wasn't good, obviously. Yeah. It was a shitty couple days and he said lots of long talks and discussions that we had to have. But, you know, days, the word days scares me like how do you go from you know let's get a divorce to a couple days later like let's open up and just fuck other people and stay together this is like a that's a big jump i mean i could understand

like a you know months went by six months you know we finally but days you said days yeah no it was literally it was literally like a week actually i feel like like she like a weekend like she told me on a weekend and then we didn't talk or anything for like a whole week and then the following weekend. We're like, all right, well, you know, well, I definitely said, I'm like, listen, I'm definitely getting a whole pass with a girl. This is the baby thing I talked about. Yeah, right, right, right. This is the adults acting like children. Okay, now, because you got to fuck that guy.

Now I get to fuck someone. Right. I love that. People call into my show anonymously because I feel like people are so much more honest with their shit because nobody knows. you know and I love that you're just playing that out there because that's just basic human nature and anyone that goes after you for that everyone acts so stupid like that at different times in their life you can't help it right right not exactly yeah yeah so you're like I want a whole pass yeah I said I definitely want a whole pass and then I think she just mentioned something

well what happens I want to see him again I'm like all right oh my goodness he having like an open marriage or what are we doing and so that's how it all started talking again And then, you know, like I've heard on your show before, like, we had all these rules if we're going to do it. And, like, probably, I don't know, maybe like a week or two weeks later, she said, hey, my friend wants me to come over tonight. I was like, wow, I'm like, all right. That coworker. Yeah, that same coworker. That's been the same guy she's been with for like the last year.

Okay, but let me ask you this. Okay, I'm sorry, but co-workers are scary to me because, and a lot of people, I mean, didn't you see there was a just a big scandal all over the news on people on Good Morning America or something. You know, they wound up hooking up and they were coworkers, you know, a lot of times. Right. You know, it's one thing to hook up sexually, but because they're spending so much time in the office together, like the last thing you want is for something more to be there, you know? Did you have discussions about like boundaries as far as like emotional connections and stuff like that?

I wonder, and that's why I said, oh, it scares me because there's only days that go by that you both feel kind of shafted with each other. She cheats on you. And then all of a sudden, you guys are sort of opening it up. Like, are you solid with each other emotionally enough to be able to go and do this without worrying about the other person sort of copping feelings or something happening outside of the marriage? You know what I mean? More than sex? Yeah, I mean, like, we're, I think we were definitely solid. We talk all the time, and we're definitely solid, like, communication, whatever else.

And, you know, I don't have any, like, concerns, whatever else. You don't know about that guy, not her fucking her coworker. Well, I just feel like because of the situation, like, you know, the guy doesn't, you know, he knows that she's not going to leave me for him. Like, she's reinsuring me that. So, like, I'm pretty, I'm confident. And I'm like, I'm just like, listen, I want. the other thing too is like one it also turns me on you know she she goes over there to fuck

him and then comes a woman tells me what happens and that's like it turned on for me okay cool so you're like the hot wiping experience yeah yeah yeah she tells me so I'm like all right and just like the whole the whole dynamic of it I know she's not leading me for him so okay we'll get more to that but did you listen to scott's episode she listened to scott I just aired him recently go listen to his episode when we hang up man, yeah. Yeah, but wait. Okay, wait. So now, let me ask you this, because we're, like, you just talked about how it, like, turns you on when she goes over to his house. Did you have that experience when she copped to the fact that she cheated on you where you were,

like, really upset, but, like, slightly turned on too? I've heard that before. You know, when did you realize that that was a turn on? Well, yeah. So, I mean, like, honestly, we're talking about, like, all the questions. I'm like, tell me exactly what happened. Like, you know, how did he fuck you? Or, you? Or, you. A condom, no condom, what position? And at that point, that wasn't like a, it wasn't like a turn on for me. I just wanted to know exactly what happens.

Okay. And then I'm like, but I don't think that at that time it was a turn on. But then when she, the first like couple of, you know, times that she wouldn't go back to see him and I was asking those questions, it was a turn on. And so that's when you start to realize that that turned you on. So in the beginning when you guys decided like you want a hall pass and she wants to go fuck that guy, you were just allowing each other to do that because you decided that that would be great for your relationship,

but it wasn't necessarily like, oh, that was going to be your turn on to. Who were you? Is that correct? Yeah, I mean, we don't, we didn't have like, you know, we didn't, we don't have like a bad relationship at all. We have a great relationship. You know, it wasn't one of those things that we should do this to fix our marriage or something like that. It was already great and solid. So I'm just like, let's be open. Let's try different things.

like I'm kind of like realistic. I'm like, listen, you know, I think the people who are married and like they don't look at another person or don't want to have, you know, have sex with another person. I'm like, you know, like, you know, I'm like, listen, I know you want to,

you think other guys are cute and you want to fuck them or, you know, same thing for me. Like, I know that there's other girls out there that I think are cute that I want to fuck them. And we talk about it all the time. She's like, oh, you know, that guy's a good looking. I look at, yeah, that girl's got a nice ass. Like, you know.

Well, like, people don't do that. And like, yeah, they're just lying to each other. Yeah, but there was lying going on in your relationship, too, because she did, like, fuck a guy behind your back. And you know, I mean, you did have, like, this. It's interesting, because you did have, like, a really hard thing that showed up in your relationship. And that was the catalyst to all of this. So, you know, that's why I'm asking those questions, you know,

because it's not, listen, healthy, solid relationship. go every releasehip goes through hard times. I mean, that's anybody that's been together with someone for a really long time knows that. You know, for all the people out there that think marriage has to be perfect or it's not working, that's ridiculous. If you look at the lifespan of any couple, everybody will say you go through times, you go through really hard times. That was one of your hard time, but you guys were able to turn it into something good, which is great. But who are you? Now, let me ask you this.

and I still want to ask a million questions about your scenario, but who are you hooking up with? Like, she goes off and has the BBC. Does he have a big black dick? I mean, is that the thing? Like, cock, whatever is it? Yeah, that's one of the things. Yeah, that's one of the things.

You know, I'm not small, but he's got a bigger one than I do. That's what she said. Yeah, that's what she tells me. So I'm like, all right, that's fine. I'm like, it is what it is. Is that hot to you? Yeah, I mean, I don't really care. I mean, you know, I'm,

glad that he's got a bigger one, I guess, but if he had like the same size one, I wouldn't care, you know, yeah, I'm glad I'm glad she, you know, she's getting a little different taste of, like, a big cock. Right. Now, when she comes home, let me ask you this. Do you have, is that, do you have reclaiming sex? Is that, like, the best part of the night for you when she comes home from her boyfriend's house? Yeah, we do sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes, yeah, we do. So I, I just like, you know, yeah, just like to reclaim sex or just like knowing that, like, she just had sex with a guy and now we're having sex. It's like,

you know, game on or... And is that sex, like, really amazing for you guys? Because it's coming back together and that experience is, like, super hot. Yeah, it's, uh, it's super hot to me. And then, like, I tell, like, sometimes she'll tell me how, like, he just, like, fucked her as we're fucking. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

So I was like, yeah, he was doing this to me and that, like, turns me on. So I'm like, all right. And, yeah, we just have great sex afterwards. And I'm like, you know, and she's like, oh, my God, just, you know, we're like definitely down-to-earth normal people. And she's like, I just had sex with two people within an hour, like two different people. Yeah, imagine. Do any of her friends or any of your friends know? Probably not, right?

She told her one friend, actually just recently because the one friend confessed something to her. So she's like, well, I got to tell you something. And so the one friend doesn't know, like, the whole story about us, but she does know that, like, she has a boyfriend and that I'm okay. with it and everything's fine. Wow. So now who do you wind up going and hooking up with? So I'm like on a couple apps and you know none I hooked up with like one girl once and that was like a couple where the guy just waited downstairs. But I've also hooked up with it. Yeah, it was all right. It wasn't as great as I hope it would be. I'm just like, all right. I'm just like, that could have been better, but it wasn't.

But I've been hooking up with guys, though, too. So from, like, you know, an app, I'll go on the Grindr app. And, you know, I talk to guys, whatever else. And I've, I hook up with guys, like, on the, on an app. Okay, wait, then that's what I wanted to get at. So you do, you are hooking up with guys. Now, so was she okay with that? Like, did she go from, like, being really freaked out about that?

scenario from so many years ago to being, like, and she's totally okay with it now? She's not totally okay with it, but she wants me to be happy. Okay. She's like, listen, you know, I want you be happy. I know you have those feelings. So I want you to be happy and

like enjoy life, you know? So we're both like very big like, you know, we have, you know, we're considered of each other, but we also want to make sure that we're both happy. And that's like one of reasons why I let, you know, want her to go fuck this guy. guys because listen pretty much every time she goes over there

she has like two or three orgasms so I'm like you know want to make sure you're happy sexually you're satisfied and so she feels the same way she's like all right listen if you want to go suck it dick go ahead right and but is that why you're still so is that but

because you did say a couple of times like oh but we're still she still has questions you know to this day does it is she totally okay with you doing that or is she still freaked out by it at all? Yeah, no, she's still, I wouldn't say freaked out, but she's still, she's not totally

okay with it. You know, she's still, you know, just wants to make sure that we're good, but she's just like, you know, I just don't understand it, but whatever, it's wanted. Now, how do you hooked up with any guys? Have I hooked up any guys?

Yeah, I've hooked up with a couple guys. So tell me about those experiences, and like, does she get turned on by that? Or is she when you come home? No, she doesn't get turned on by. She wants to know the details too, just because she wants to know what happens. You know, one of the things is that like because we have this open marriage now,

it's so much easier to talk about everything. There's no, I know before there was some lying and cheating, but now it's just all that, you know, out in the open. Right. So it's a lot easier. And it's actually made, I feel like it's made our relationship so much better, our marriage so much better. Because there's full transparency.

Yeah, exactly. There's dope. Like, you can do whatever you want. She had been fucking her guy for like a year, but she wanted to go fuck some other guys. She could do that too. She hasn't been, or like she hasn't needed to because she's got that one guy? Yeah, exactly.

And now, so where do you meet your guys? Like on Grindr or something? Yeah, on Grindr. So what's your type? What kind of guys are you into? So mostly like I would say like my type like just kind of like the clean cut like in shape kind of guys. You know professional like kind of like professional booking guys, you know, good jobs or whatever else. Now what do you like what do you find on the apps or the guys typically like married and doing this on the side as well secretly?

Yeah, a lot of them are. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. Since the get go of doing my show, I've been doing my show. I've been doing my show for eight years. The number of guys that I talked to that were hooking up with guys behind their wives' backs has been many. Like so many guys calling in, you know? I would say, yeah, I would say majority on the app are anyway.

And they're just like, because, you know, one of the problems is no one can ever, like, host because, you know, they live a home with their wife and kids. So they can't, you know, can't go to their house. So, you know, you got to find a right. like situation and, you know, or whatever else. So, but you talk to all these guys and like, yeah, they want, you know, if I could host up my house, I would have a line out the door. But you don't, your wife doesn't want them coming to your house. So where do you wind up hooking up with these guys?

Yeah, she doesn't want. And that's cool with me too. I don't want them coming to the house. Yeah, I got it. So there's been some guys, yeah, I go to their house. I've been, I've, some guys have, like, hotel rooms. So I've been to their hotel room. now have you been like are you a top or a bottom have you gone all the way with a guy

uh i've topped like i've like suck guys off guys will suck me off and i've fucked them uh but no one's never fucked me so do you consider yourself a top or have you not are you have you not have you not bottom just because of lack of opportunity or there wasn't a guy you wanted to do it with but you're open like are you switched top or bottom yeah i would switch i mean just the lack of opportunity if it happens i would do it just hasn't happened have you ever had any kind of animal play with your wife? Yeah, so like maybe, you know, two years before this, we had, we got a strap on and she pegged me to a couple times.

She must have brought, she must have put that together when she heard about your experience. Oh, maybe that's why you love the fucking strap on. Yeah, no, she did, she did. She just thought it was, you know, because she knows, like, you know, there's, you have like the prostate, you know. Yeah, orgasm. orgasm, whatever. So she's like, all right, well, listen to that.

You know, it makes sense. But once, you know, told her about the whole buy thing, she's like, oh, so that's why you wanted me to fucking yes. Yeah. So you guys were into pegging before? Yeah, she's not really into it. But, like, you know, she does it for me. So we only done it like maybe a half a dozen times, like over two years.

So it's not really her thing. Right. But you like it and you know that you like it. So if the right guy came along, you definitely bought him. But the right guy hasn't come along. Right. Yeah, exactly. Do you have any regular guys?

No, like none of them. I mean, there's like one guy, I guess I could, but they're really, no one's really, I guess I have high standards. I don't know. But I was like there's no one that really has made it easier that, you know, I can go to their house or whatever else. And do you like older guys, younger guys? Does it not matter? asked for dick picks?

Definitely ask for dick picks. Yeah, that's a big one. What do you look for? Like, what are you looking for a guy that's well hung? Yeah, I don't like a guy that's well hung. Yeah.

You know, it doesn't have to be monster, like, porno, you know, hung. But, yeah, like a bigger dick.

And then, yeah, whatever age range, like, you know, I don't want to something like young kid, but like, you know,

in the late 20s, 30s, 40s, maybe 50s. Those all's are kind of like, you know, those are in shape and clean. Yeah.

I'm cool with it. How old are you? Hygiene. Yeah, yeah. 45. Now, do you, are you open to BBC, like your wife? Are you, like, interested in having that because she has? I don't know.

Not, like, I've thought about it, but it's not something I need or crave or, you know, I'm like, I, should I, you know, have a BBC or have, you know, a black dick or something, but it's not, like, necessarily something that I need or, you know, seek out. Now, do you ever think that you guys will play with a guy together? Have you ever? We've talked about it. She's not really down for that. Interesting.

I told her, I'm like, listen, you know, I'll wait to do a threesome with another guy. You know, we could touch each other or not or even just watch her play with another guy. Like, you know, I definitely watch her play with her boyfriend, but he doesn't want to do that. or she doesn't think he wants to do that. So we haven't done that at all. Oh, that's interesting. I feel like you're my first couple that is open, but never play together and only play separately.

Yeah, so far. I mean, we had like one, we were down in Key West or Fantasy Fest where we kind of, I think I mentioned it that, you know, we were in the middle of the bar, like, hooking up with three other guys. Wait, right, tell me that experience. So, oh, yeah, I forgot. Heatonism, Fantasy Fest. Tell me about those notifications.

So, like, Key West, we just went to a bar and it was like a gay bar and, you know, nothing, no assumptions, whatever else. Like, you know, we can't go to a gay bar like around here just for, you know, obvious reasons because I'm not out. And that's what Fantasy Fest is? It's a gay bar? No, it's in Key West. It's like a week-long parade or a week-long, like, party. It's a crazy thing, you know. But sex party?

No, it's not. It's just like, they close down the streets and it's like all like bar hopping and stuff like that. But people get pretty, pretty kinky, pretty wild. Okay, cool. So you go to a gay bar while you're there. Right. So we're there and like just some guy came up to her or came up to me actually and said, hey, I just want to say like congratulations.

Your wife is really hot. Oh, my God. Thanks. and, you know, I was a little surprised. She was a little surprised, but obviously she loved a compliment. And so we're just, like, talking to this guy for a while, and he was telling him to his story, and it was kind of, like, under the impression.

He was straight and just didn't know he was in the gayboard. But, so I just kind of, like, we're kind of, like, exhibitionist, too, or, like, you know, I like to show her off. So, you know, she's wearing, like, a loose top, so I just, you know, started showing her tits to them. I'm like, yeah, she's got great tits, right? And he's like, yeah, it's like, you can touch them if you want. And you start touching them.

And, you know, it just kind of escalated into there. And they started hooking up a little bit, kissing. And then this other guy came by, and he said, told him, like, how I'm cute. I'm good looking. And then we all just start talking. And then next thing you know, like, the one guy is fingering my wife. And the other guy is blowing me. and we're like kissing.

It was just like, you know, it was crazy. We're, you know, pretty drunk and everything like that, too. Wait a second. Is this in the bar? Yeah, it was like an outdoor bar. So it's like right in the middle of like the outdoor bar. Is it, but is it like a kind of like a club where people could hook up like that and get low jobs in front of people? It's not, like I said at the time, I think just like anything kind of goes.

For that week. Yeah, for that week. Yeah. It's not a swingers club or anything like that. It's like a regular bar, like outdoor bar. No, but I mean, at that time, it's not like everyone was like, what the fuck are they doing? Like, it was, you can do that in that bar at that time.

I mean, because it's not normal. Like, you know, listen to it, a regular bar. I don't even care if it's a gay bar or not. You can't just get a blowjob and, you know, have a guy fingering your wife out in the middle of the bar. So I was just wondering, like, what the scene is all about. There's other people, you're allowed to hook up and other people are hooking up in the same way.

in this open place that you're in? Yeah, there was definitely other guys, blown guys, too. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you're getting blown. Now, how did she feel about seeing you getting blown by a guy? I think she was just, honestly, really fucked up. And we were just, like, he was blowing me, and, like, me and the other guy were kissing her,

were, like, a threesome kissing. So, like, I don't think she, like, she knew what was going on, but she wasn't, like. that's like a five-sum wait there was two guys it was what was it you and her it was a four-sum yeah a four-sum wow okay now did it end at the bar or did you guys

take it home at all no we it ended at the bar actually I don't know why we didn't go back to our place or hotel whatever yeah too drunk but like we just we actually like took a break we both were like the guy

like made her come like twice Wow. Yeah. Just from fingering her. Yeah, he's like, because I knew she was coming. I'm like, how does this guy make you come from her fingering? I think it's the whole experience.

She's being watched. You know, it's like, it's super charged. Well, he said he wasn't like fat, but he was like husky, I guess. Yeah. And he said to her to touch the fingers. That what? Wait, what? That's chubby fingers.

That's why he got her to come. Yeah. I've been. with a guy that has big fingers. It's like two of them is like equal to a dick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's very satisfying.

Yeah, yeah. For a woman. So, yeah. That made our comments. And like, after that, we actually just took a break. Like, you know, we need to go get a beer, have a drink, whatever. And then we went back and we talked a little more, hooked up a little more, nothing crazy, though. Did you come from the blow job from the guy?

No, I didn't. I was just like, I don't know, I just either because I was too drunk. or whatever else, but I didn't come now. Yeah, okay. So that was pretty much, like, that was down in, like I said, Key West. And then we went to Heatonism, too, in Jamaica. Yeah. And not if you ever heard of that place, but it was wild down there.

It's like an old nude, like, that's pretty much like a swinger's place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that experience? It was crazy. Like, we got down there, and, like, the first part of the day, we're just, like, at the new beach and like at night we go into like the new pool and they were just like girls giving blow job left and right guys eating girls out left and right like right like right right by the pool I was like wow this was not what I expected what you think it was going to go down at hedonism

I don't know I just you know what just not so much in the open like everything was right there it wasn't like hitting behind a tree or whatever else it's like right on the pool deck And it was like, Yeah, so for like the next week, that's always, it was pretty, it was wild.

And, you know, we enjoyed, we had our fun too. You know, I ate her out right by the pool and we had sex in the pool, actually,

like surrounded by people. So it was pretty crazy. I had a great time. And she was dancing on top of the piano, naked at one point. Oh, oh, my God. Imagine when you guys ever have,

imagined before you pulling out that story. I mean, look at how you changed your guy's whole life by being honest about something that happened to you so long ago. It was such a catalyst for complete change in your marriage. Totally for the better. I mean, there's definitely tough times. You said marriage is not all. Of course, yeah.

I mean, it was, it did it. It was not like the movies. It's not like you told her. And she was like, oh, great, let's go fuck other people. I mean, it was like hard. But it did lead, though, to the point where here you are in hedonism and your wife's dancing naked in front of people. And you're fine. You know, you're having, living the best life.

It's crazy. Oh, yeah. That's absolutely what we're doing. We're going back to Jamaica, too. We're going back to Edenism. Right. To do it again. Because we just had so much fun.

It was just, like, very freeing. You know, easygoing. And, you know, no expectations. It is what it is. What happens. but like yeah we just had so much great fun that we still enjoy to you know today she's actually

tonight she's getting ready to meet her boyfriend to go fuck but wait now when you were in hedonism though in Jamaica did you guys hook up with other people or do you just do like the exhibitionist stuff so yeah we didn't hook up with anyone there wasn't really anyone that we were super attracted to um how come was everyone

unattractive not unattractive but they were like older like I'm going to say like in their 60s like late 50s there's like two couples where I definitely would hook up with the girls but she wouldn't hook up with the guys and I didn't blame her they weren't good looking guys so I'm like I wasn't going to force her to do it or take one for the team yeah that's a hard listen I've heard it for many couples it's very hard when a couple a lot of times the reason why couples wind up playing solo is because in order to get everybody to like each other in a couple scenario, there's like four different people that have to, you know, they all have

four different tastes and to get everybody interested in everybody is a hard find. It's not that easy for a lot of couples. So that is something I've heard a lot. Yeah. Yeah, they, like, we had like, they said two couples, like one invited us to sit down. And we're just kind of like, I knew it right off the bat. Like, you know, you know your, your spouse, whatever. I'm like, I know she doesn't like this guy. So why even bother? Yeah.

And then we went to like a playroom where another couple was at and the same thing. Like, I know she doesn't like this guy. So I'm not going to be bothered. Mm-hmm. So it's kind of, you know, being respectful to and being considerate. Yeah, I'm just trying to listen. I'm not going to force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. Yeah.

But you guys had great sex because it was just fun. watching people and having people watch you and stuff like that. Yeah, no, it was great. Like, you know, just like out in the middle, like on the beach, you know, people around, just like watching. And, you know, it was something, you know, we've never done before. So I think, you know, obviously the first time is the best. Like I'm like, I don't know, you know, we come back 30 times. I don't know if the first time's ever going to be.

But you're going to go back now. You're going back soon. Yeah, no, we are. I'm just saying I don't think it would ever beat the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Right. It was just something new and something crazy. And we had a great time.

Yeah, but probably the next time, the way you'll get, you'll probably wind up hooking up with other people or something. You know, that's how you'll get that first experience, how it'll become new. Because you didn't do that. Right, no, we didn't do that. Now, does she ever have any. Actually, you know what?

One guy did, actually, we were in a pool one night, and some being this other guy who were sucking on our tits for a little bit, but nothing crazy. Right, that was the extent of it. Does she ever want to hook up with women or she's just strictly into guys? Strictly into guys. She's never, she says she has no interest in girls.

Right, okay. And now does she care whether you see a girl or a guy or is it just anything goes between the two of you when it comes to other people that you see solo? Yes, I mean, it's anything, anything goes, but I'll be honest. Like, I haven't had much luck with the girls. So, like, meeting with girls.

couples. It's very hard or it doesn't seem to be working. So this whole thing is like she's definitely gotten the best of it to me. Yeah. Well, you know, I've heard that before many times. Yeah. It's a girl's world in that lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. No, I get it. I'm like it is what it is. You know, she's a good looking girl so she can, you know, she could have her choice if she wanted. But right now she's just with this one guy. Well, she's obvious. Listen, I mean, I was always like someone that would have booty calls and stuff. And I just like, you know, I can have sex with someone I don't like and it can be super hot.

But I tend to like, I'm wired to want to stay with the same person of the person that I know. I don't really want to be with a different new person every day. I think everyone's kind of different. I've talked to a lot of women that really love variety and want somebody new all the time. And I think your wife sounds more like me. Like she likes this guy. knows what he's like, she gets her off and she likes to just go there. I totally understand that because I'm more wired that way. Yeah. And it's more, you know, it's a perfect situation for

us or for her because, you know, the guy's single. He has his own place. And so it just works out and they, you know, they know, they know each other. So, you know, and she likes that. She doesn't, you know, she wouldn't want to go just fuck every random guy, you know, one guy tonight. Yeah, yeah. And now, is there any one last question? Because I, you know, she doesn't, you know, she doesn't, you know, she doesn't, you know, just talked to Scott recently and his girl did have like, you know, at one guy that she saw a lot and then eventually they started really like each other. But there was like red flags because they were always talking and texting and blah, blah, blah. Like, I mean, this guy that your wife sleeps with, her co-worker, I mean,

she's obviously talking to him at work, I'm assuming, but like, is there a lot of texting and stuff outside of the bedroom or is it strictly like, hey, I want to get fucked tonight, that kind of deal, like, and she goes over and does it and that's the end of the story and she goes back to her life. Or is there a lot of like, is there more to their relationship? I guess that's the right question. Yeah, I mean, there's not too much. If you ask her, he's like a shitty communicator. So like even if they try and text, like he doesn't get back to her for like a while.

Oh, that's good. That works in your favor. I mean, you know, I'm just saying like I wouldn't want like all I would say is to you is that, listen sometimes people wind up having an affair without realizing it a lot of people are so judgy with people that cheat everyone thinks that every you know a lot of times some people are cheating and that's their intention to fucking cheat but a lot of times

someone never thought that they were going to cheat and they wind up cheating because shit happens and you wind up falling for somebody you know and I just always think you know you know you don't know because you just time spent and all of a sudden what the fuck I caught feelings for this person you don't know and the things that happen a lot of times those scenarios are it is like co-worker situations or like in the Scott's story his wife was not just like fucking this guy they were having a lot of talking outside of that so he became like this confidant and that's when things could you know that's the stuff that I think when you're in a marriage

in a marriage you don't want and those should be the boundaries that you set up and uh because sometimes things could happen and you know that's why I ask that you know it's good he's a bad communicator and they're not fucking texting and he never texts her back. The last thing you want is to her, you know, him to be blowing up their phone and them talking and being like best friends too because that to me is something that

I think could lead to trouble down the line. Because you still are very new at this. Yeah, no, we're definitely still new. We've talked about it. She does, you know, she does, I think, have feelings for him, but she said, like, I can never date this guy

because she's not a good relationship. person or not good in their relationship. Right. Well, what do you mean she has feelings from? Like she digs him as a person or she cares about him romantically? What do you mean? Yeah, I mean both. Like, cares about him romantically.

Like, you know, she's like, I like them. Like, you know, she doesn't love him, but she, like, likes them. And, you know, the time that they do spend together, you know, they have a good time. But it's only at his house. It's not. So does she stay after the sax and hang out with him and watch a movie? What's that? Does she ever, like, go and, like, hang out and watch a movie?

Or, like, do they ever do stuff outside of the sex, too? No, they don't do anything outside the sex. But, yeah, I mean, they watch, maybe they watch a couple TV shows or, like, watch a movie. Like, she'll go over there's, like, like, a couple hours. It's not like a... It's not like a... Wham-Bam-Bank-you-Man. Yeah, I don't know.

I would rather ram-bam thank you, ma'am. I mean, you know, if it's my partner, I'm just... I think that's, like, really great. that you're, and I guess it's because I don't know your relationship. You're obviously that secure in your relationship that it's totally fine with you. Like, I would think that's like a little slight red flag, like five years from now. I don't know. But maybe because he's such like a bad relationship material that helps the game.

But like, what if he was a great relationship material? Would you worry that she would, like, wouldn't that get very confusing for you? Like, you don't care that she has feelings as well as sexual? attraction to another man? Yeah, if he was a great communicator or like a great guy or a great relationship person, whatever else, and it may be different, but just like, like I said, we tell each other or everything, so she tells me you able to stop. And I'm like, this guy, right, you know, terrible.

Yeah, he's not a good, he's not a good boyfriend. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, just hope that he always stays around and never gets married because this guy is safe. Right. You know, just watch out if you have more. more, you know, she winds up going and seeing other guys because this guy eventually falls to the

wayside because the last thing you want is that she winds up copping feelings for somebody and that guy maybe woo's her outside of the sex because you allow it. And before you know it, she's like in love with someone else and what's that conversation like? I don't know. You guys might be able to work through it, but I just worry. Just be careful with that, you know, down the line. Yeah. No, you know, definitely careful. We both are. Like, she's cognizant of it too and just like, you know. In what sense? How? She just, you know, says, you know, I'm not going to fall for this guy. He's not, he's not my type, like, emotional wise. You know, he's just. Right, but that's one thing. But to me, what should be said is, like, I wouldn't fall for this guy because I'm in love with you and I'm not looking to fall for somebody. You know what I mean? Like, do you, let me ask you this. Maybe this is the best.

better question to you. Like, wouldn't you care if she fell for another guy? Or are you cool with that? Yeah, I don't think I would want her to, like, fall in love with another guy. Right. That's what you mean. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, I mean, I think that would be a whole different conversation.

Like, the way we both discussed it was like, if, let's say she was single and the other guy was single, she could, she would say, I can never be with this guy, you know? it's not she's not with him or you know just because of me you know so if she was single she won't be with this guy either or just be for the sex right right but i mean i just would hope that like you know you make the rules that you would not want each other to be to have feelings for anybody else except you two like you guys are the primary relationship right oh yeah Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Okay.

We do everything together, and we're always together. We don't have any kids. So, like, we do everything together. Like your best friends. Yeah, yeah. And we have a great time. Like, you know, just like, you know, he said, my best friend, and we have a great time together. We, you know, go out to dinner and drinks and do fun stuff.

And, you know, it's not like, you know, the horror stories that get you hear from, like, other husbands or spouses, whatever else. Yeah, but I'm sorry. You're only one year into it. I'm just telling you, when you listen to this back, okay, just like make sure, because this guy, like I said, is perfect because he is so flaky that even though she has feelings for him, they can't progress past where they are because of his flakiness. But make sure you, when she starts maybe playing with other guys, that you are very clear about emotional relationships with other people

because that's where things like this could get really messy. And you seem very easygoing and very trusting. And I think that that's cool and it really works in your relationship. Like you said, you guys are better than ever. But when you do open yourself up, sometimes shit could happen if you're not really clear about the boundaries. And I think you should create a little bit more stricter boundaries unless you're thinking to be Polly, I mean, to, you know, with the outside stuff that goes on with your outside people.

Right. You know? Does she know you're calling into the show? Does he know or she know? She know, not him. Yeah, she knows. Does he know? No, he does not.

Okay. She knows? Will she listen to this episode? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I would love to get her on. Would she ever call in or no? Yeah, I think she would. Oh, my God, I'd love to get her.

her angle because she might be screaming at the phone, you know, when she listens to this. Like, oh, no, she's so wrong. You know, so I'd love for her to come on and clear things up. Because, listen, I'm talking to you for the first time. You guys been together forever. You know your story. I only have an hour to really dig deep. I'd love to get her angle on things.

I love this story. To me, it was really interesting. I feel like, you know, and I think I said this on another episode recently too, that it's hard for me to find stories that are so unique and different because I've been doing this for so long. Right. Even though every story is interesting to me, some are more interesting because it's kind of something new. Like I feel like you guys are one of the first couples, like I said, where you just only play alone.

And that's all been your only story. So that's what I found really fascinating about this. So thanks so much for sharing it. If you could, it would be great to send an anonymous picks of you and your wife if you can. If she's down for it. no face shots, no pussy shots, no dicks and picks. I always say, you know. If you want to send something.

Yeah, I'll ask her. Yeah, ask her. And also ask her if she'd love to come on after she listens to the episode. And like I said, clear the air, talk about the experience from her angle. Because I think it would be really interesting to talk to her and hear, like, her experience of what it was like hearing about your story. And why she did fuck that guy and why she does still fuck him and how she feels about him. You know, so if she's down, I'd love. I'd love to have her on.

And so let her, you know, so keep me posted. But thank you so much for calling in, Jack, and sharing your story. It was great. It'll probably be up next Wednesday, okay? All right. That sounds great. I appreciate it. All right.

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