Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 570 - Summer is a Unicorn who Fell for a Married Man
Episode Date: December 21, 2022Summer is a unicorn who fell for a married man and his wife couldn’t handle it and she called in to talk all about it. When did she decide to become a unicorn? How did she meet the married man she d...ecided to hook up with? And, why did his wife decide to shut it down? Tue in to find out plus hear all about how it took a little while for her to realize she was pansexual, why her marriage didn’t last, when she realized she was totally into women, how she went onto an app for poly people and realized she loved being a unicorn, the couples she met and what she enjoyed doing with them, the amazing threesomes she had, her experience with a dom and what he turned her on to, the sex party she attended with him and exactly what went on there, how she spent the night with one couple and what went down, the rules she has with couples she hooks ups with, how she met the married guy, how and why his wife in another country while they were hooking up, how the wife was totally down with them hooking up at first, his foot fetish and how much she enjoyed that, how she enjoyed domming him and how she became a switch, how and why they started to fall for each other, how and why the wife started to freak out, why they eventually ended things, what she learned from that hook-up, how and why she still enjoys hooking up with couples and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of Summer + anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So today I have on a unicorn.
A unicorn with a little bit of a salacious story.
Okay.
Her name is Summer.
She's calling all the way, I think, from Australia.
She's from the UK.
She is a unicorn.
She was married.
She got divorced.
She decided to go into the unicorn world.
She hooked up with couples.
she went to some sex parties.
She got a little bit into like a little BDSM
and she talks about all that kind of stuff.
And then she met like this couple,
but they had like a weird situation going on.
It was really like she met a guy,
but he was a part of a couple.
And his wife was in the know
that he was playing with her.
And that all got complicated.
And then she talks about that as well.
So we do two different things on this podcast.
You hear two different stories.
You know, her story is a unicorn.
And then it's a little bit of a unicorn
gone wrong story because she did like I said hook up with this couple but their situation was so weird
that it kind of like blew up in everyone's face I mean they like fell in love and it got like really
messy and but she got out of it and she's on the other side and she's much more clear about what
she wants and what she could handle and what she's interested in she does have a threesome set up for
the new year so she's not not a unicorn anymore she's still a unicorn but did have a little bit of
a bumpy road in her last
unicorn quote
unquote relationship and you're going to
hear all about her. Her name is
Summer. She sent in some
hot picks of herself. She
tells a good story.
So sit back and relax
and I'm going to be right back on
with Summer. Hi,
Summer. Welcome to the strictly anonymous
podcast. How are you today all the way
over there in Australia? Are you in
Australia? someplace around there? Yes, I'm
good. I'm good. It's 7 a.m.
So it's not super early, but I still have a coffee.
Oh, there you go.
That's good.
So you are going to be telling me your story.
What the only thing I know is that you are currently a unicorn, but you weren't always a
unicorn.
You were married at one time.
And there I went to the end of the story, but you were very, you were married for a while,
like seven years or something like that in a very vanilla relationship.
And then you came out, became bisexual, and now you're a unicorn.
You went to Swingers.
And then you met a couple and things went a little out of control.
I know just that.
So tell me your story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm from the UK, so you can probably tell originally, from a very small village.
Growing up was very sort of heteronormative.
Meet somebody.
You married them.
You have kids.
That's that.
There wasn't really many options outside of that.
Not that it was a pathetic, not that it was a homophobic place or anything.
It was just very, a small village, very normal.
And so I think I would have realized my, or I'd classify as pansexual,
but I say bisexual to some people if they don't know what it means.
It took me a while to realize that because I didn't have those sort of examples around me,
if that makes sense.
Yeah, so I was in the UK, Finnish uni was working,
and I just really wanted to travel.
So I did that, came over here, traveled around the whole country, it was amazing.
and met a guy who became my husband.
We were together for nine years, married for seven years.
And we got to the point in our marriage, we'd become friends, housemates.
And there was not really any sex.
He had a quite low sex drive.
And I'm very the opposite.
And for me, sex is very important in a relationship.
I have a high sex drive.
So there's the physical element.
But there's also the intimacy element.
It is the thing that binds you together.
And I just said to him, I can't live like.
this like I can't live basically without sex for what the next however many decades so we separated and so
it was at that point I sort of picked up the pieces and then I guess I just realized oh maybe when I
used to watch once upon a time in Mexico and I saw my hug was really pretty maybe I thought she
was more than pretty you know oh because I remember watching that movie and I'm like God I really
actually fancied both of them and that was quite
confusing. So yeah, I sort of then went out and I thought I'll see like maybe I'll try to date
women or whatever. I can't remember how I think it was even on a podcast I heard about this
particular app. I won't name it except just in case but I heard about this particular app and I
jumped onto that and I really loved it because it was just there for people who were kind of
in a polly or kink or E&M kind of community and you build your profile, list what your kinks or whatever.
and I met couples and I was like, I'm going to go out and meet couples and just see.
And I had some amazing experiences.
I had this one through.
Some has this.
All three of us came at the same time.
Really?
I always talk about how that's hard to do just with one person, let alone three.
That's crazy.
But afterwards, we all looked at each other.
We were like, whoa, that just happened.
That was really cool.
And that was great.
And then I was definitely bisexual and I want to explore women.
But I actually then found, and this is probably.
now five years ago. I loved being the unicorn. It was so much fun. You, when you're with the right
people, you generally get treated really well. It's a very respectful world I found. And one thing I found
that going to the sex parties and going out is that I'm probably like a US maybe like size
10. Now, I know, I used to be super self-conscious. We all fucking were. That was teenage fucking hell.
But growing up in what I was growing up in sort of the late 90s, early 2000s, it was like
Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, like you've got to be a six-in bitch and I'm not.
Yeah, it was a different world back then.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So bad.
And now you come out and it's like curves are celebrated and not to blow my own trumpet as it
were, but go to the gym, I work out, the curves are in the right places.
And so now I'm having all this attention.
And the first time I went to a swing as meeting, great.
I'd met this couple.
I actually only just matched with them.
And they were coming into the city that evening for a swingers meeting greet.
And they were like, do you want to come?
And I'm like, oh, because this is my first time.
I don't know, but you'll be there.
I guess I can just leave, right?
That's always my attitude.
If I don't like it, I can just leave.
Yeah.
So I went to meet.
And it was in a bar.
It was close.
It wasn't a sex party.
It was just like a meeting greet.
And I met this guy and his wife.
And we got on really well.
I'm immediately uncomfortable with them.
But what I didn't realize,
is going into that space as a unicorn because I was like a new little tiny baby unicorn.
You get a lot of attention, like a lot.
Yeah, because you're rare.
Because you're rare.
Yes, but I didn't know this.
Even though the two unicorn existed, I'm like, hey, I'm just here to join you.
And then they told me, oh, this is what it's called.
I had all these people coming up to me.
Oh, I hear you're a unicorn.
And I'm like, whoa, this is really intense.
This is a lot.
You're like the most popular girl on the planet.
Did you hear my podcast with Frenchie where she didn't even realize she was a unicorn either
and she like someone left her money on the table and she's like, what the fuck is that for?
She was like so popular at the Swingers Club she didn't know it was a party and that's how it went down.
But yeah, anyway, go on.
That's what I'm going to listen to that way because I didn't know.
I just was like, oh, it would be cool to be with a couple and yeah, all of a sudden that I'm in this world.
And yes, I went into it more and definitely made some mistakes.
And I actually, what prompted me to write into you is I listened to the Toronto Unicorn episode.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
And I was like, I wish I'd listened to this at the beginning of my journey because I made mistakes.
And what did she talk about that?
You were like, oh, I wish I would have known that.
At the beginning, I only went with experienced couples because I didn't know what I was doing.
So I wanted to be with a couple who did and who could guide me.
But it didn't necessarily progress with some of them.
but there was one that I could tell the girl, actually, it was driven by the guy.
And as we got into it, she was uncomfortable.
So how she said only with experienced couples and girls who are genuinely bisexual is really important.
Because there are definitely couples at there where they're doing it because the guy wants it rather than because they both want it.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's sort of a rule.
And I actually, I went against it recently.
I matched on the site with this lady and she is, this girl is a hundred percent bisexual,
absolutely gorgeous.
We really fancied each other.
But when it came to the crunch, they had a freak out and they're like, actually, no, we can't do this.
So I'm like, yeah.
It wasn't that she wasn't into girls.
It was that they both just chickened out of having.
They just chicken out.
And I was like, yeah, I know newbies rule.
And the other thing is couples, it's really a hard game sometimes.
well. But anyway, so yeah, I did the party and that was great. And then I sort of got more into it
and met more people. And then I went to my first proper sex party. And oh boy, that was an
eye-opening experience. Talk me through that, walk me through that one. I heard about this because
sort of backtracking a little bit, when I first came out of my marriage, I actually met a guy who
turned out to be a dumb. And I ended into that relationship. And I should have known I was
Kinky. When I was like 17 with my first boyfriend, we were experimenting with rope. Come on.
Two year old does that. Should have known. But I came out of, yeah, came out of that. And I met the
guy who named to Domyn. He really educated me on this whole world, on BDSM, what dominance really
is, what submission really is, who really has the control. You know what I mean? And sort of what you
think it is. And I was like, God, I'm hooked. This is incredible. It was just the
best experience and overseas.
And so I was sort of set on this path.
And so I was like, I'd love to combine these two things, this unicul and thing, this kink and
BDSM.
And he told me about this party and I went and I'm not allowed to wear clothes.
It's all lingerie.
And I'm pretty body confident.
And as I said, not to blow my own trumpet, but I'm not unattractive.
I feel pretty good.
And this is the other thing coming out into this world.
We dip pick, oh, I would love this to be thinner or this to be tighter or whatever.
And then I go out and there everything is like, you're so beautiful.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I like this world.
So I go in and I've never seen so many nude or semi-nude people in one place.
It's that.
And when you go in, you change.
And so I thought there'd be like a changing room.
But, you know, there's just like a place in the bar where you get your kit off and hand your bag over to luggage.
So I'm like, I'm in.
my lingerie and a dance floor oh my god and there was that moment of whoa and it was exhilarating it was
really exhilarating i was just walking around and obviously on my own and got quite a few looks and
had a chat to some couples and ended up spending the night sort of with one in particular and then
we went sort of into an area that where all the naughty stuff happens that was just that i felt like
Alice threw the looking glass, honestly.
It was this whole different world.
And because it was in the middle of the city,
I'm like, I've walked past this place,
like a hundred times having no idea what's going on inside.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, because it's in a main part in the city.
I've worked in the city for years.
I would spend weekends in the city.
I don't live far from it.
And I walk around in the city, I'm like,
I had no idea this was going on.
And that was really fun too,
because you knew that there was all these.
people walking about outside having no idea what was going on inside.
And what was going on in that crazy room?
What were you doing?
The first thing, because we went there, I went into there earlier in the night when it was a
bit quieter, just as I was looking around.
And I walked around the corner and there was this girl just giving a guy a blowjob.
I went so British because I turned around and he obviously got eye contact with me.
And I said, oh, I'm terribly sorry to interrupt.
That's so funny.
Like, oh my God, it's so bloody awkward.
I'm so pretty weird.
Yeah.
But it was like, yeah, it was really awkward.
And I said, oh, you know where you are.
And so as then the night progressed, you know, we went back on to dance,
well, came back in.
And it was just like there was a stage and there was all these, like, people fucking
on the stage.
And then there was all these people bent over the stage fucking in times.
And music, I thought it was super cool.
And there was just so much happening.
There was like three films.
There was fun.
there was partner swapping there was oral and just casually out there I was just like I couldn't take my
eyes off it because I was like this is incredible and amazing and finally I found my people I found my people
who are open sex isn't this thing that has to be done like in the missionary position in the bedroom
with the with the lights off these are this is my crew yeah and I was I was with a couple and we were
doing things. First, I was like, oh, this is uncomfortable for me to do this when people are
watching. And then I got into it and it was great fun. It was great fun. Again, I'm on my own
doing this sober, right? Because I'm not drinking. Yeah, you're like the unicorn of the
unicorn. All right. So now, listen, I know that like you were having, because there's like this whole other
story that I know exists. You have to explain it though. Like, how did you wind up meeting this guy that
you had this whole salacious thing happened.
Tell me that story now.
This is the story.
Okay, so this is looking for couples.
And so on this particular app that I use,
you can set your profile to like either just say guys or girls or everyone.
And I had it set to everyone,
couples, guys and girls.
And so then I come across this profile.
Now I actually had my,
I normally go my age or older when it comes to especially guys.
But I had recently just switched.
up the age range because I was just not finding, just not having great success, not
finding guys I was attracted to. And this profile came up with this 29 year old. And I think I've
said before, I'm 36. So quite a bit of an age range. I don't know, younger guys, I'm not sure.
But he was cute. So I thought, why not? I really said, fuck it, why not? And then I thought,
I can't swear. And then I'm like, you're talking on a sex podcast. You can swear.
Yeah, it's like, fuck it.
So I swiped on this guy.
We start messaging.
My thing is message, then a phone call to check you get on if the phone call goes well.
Me.
So the phone call went really well.
And he's actually from your nephew, sort of your neckler words.
He's from New Jersey.
I have a whole thing for American accents, period,
regardless of where you're from in the state.
I just think they're sexy and they're gorgeous and they love them.
And he has this cat.
subtle nudges the accent which I just love.
And he's a musician and what girl doesn't like a musician.
But like a real musician?
Not like a real music.
Like a real.
Like he does he make money doing it?
Is that his real gig?
Yes.
I can go on to Spotify and listen to his bands and watch their videos on YouTube and they
tour like that.
Oh, you're going to tell me off air who is.
You will tell you off air who did.
Okay, okay.
So we arranged to meet up.
And we, I was due to just go and hang at his place, get a peeps or whatever.
But wait a second.
Wait a second.
I just have to just go something.
Because I know that he's married.
Do you know that he's married at this point?
No, no, I don't.
Yeah, so we hang out a couple of times.
Then he tells me he's married and he actually didn't have it in this profile.
He was super awkward about telling me.
I was like, dude, it's chill.
I'm in this world.
It's fine.
But wait a second.
Okay, wait a second.
Okay.
First of all, does he live in the States or does he live?
So yeah, so he's from the States.
He's over here for a few months with friends, traveling, making music, whatever.
Okay.
Is his wife with him there or is he by himself?
No.
Okay.
She's back home.
So we get, so the first time then we have sex is fucking incredible.
I went into this arrogant thinking, I'm a unicorn.
I've done all this wild stuff.
I'm 36, you're 29.
I'm going to teach you shit because he's been with his, his wife.
since high school.
They're pretty much the only people
each other have been with.
So I'm like, I'm going to teach you,
and that's why they're open all this stuff.
Holy hell.
It was insane sex.
Like, it was so fucking good.
So good.
And he has a good about it.
Chemistry, big dick.
He knew what he was doing.
The chemistry was definitely there,
and there was a really high level of attraction.
Yeah.
He has got the most perfect.
penis, you can imagine that. Perfect length,
gert, size. It's just perfect.
Like, occasionally will come
through penetration, but generally it's
oral fingers, whatever.
This guy will come through penetration
every time. His dick is just perfect.
Right. And he's very attentive
when it comes to the foreplay element,
which you tend to get when you're in the unicorn,
you get all that attention on you.
You get lots, and I'm very sensual.
I love, like, touching and stroking and, and it just, every part of my body was turned on.
And he has a foot fetish, which is the first time I've properly experienced that.
And turns out, I love feet.
I love my feet being leaked and kissed.
It is kind of hot, right?
I had somebody once suck on my toes and I was like, whoa, that feels fucking good.
You're right?
You just don't realize.
Well, before we hooked up, he actually gave me a foot massage.
And I swear to God, Kathy, this is the most foot.
foot massage I've had in my whole life.
Hilarious. It was like, it was obvious this guy who's been to these.
Yeah. And so just, it was so hot. It was just so hot. And so the sex was great off the bat.
And so obviously, we were like, this is fantastic. And I actually FaceTimed his wife, whilst he and I were
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And she's really cool.
She's fantastic.
And we would be like cuddled up in each other's arms
on FaceTime to her.
Was she like a little bit of a cuck queen by any chance?
Was she getting off on the fact that he was with other girls?
I don't know a cuck.
Definitely for a cuck queen.
But he would like when they were having their FaceTime chats,
he would tell her what we've been up to
and she kind of liked it.
So potentially.
Yeah, obviously.
Potentially.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so then, because obviously me having that BDSM background, being a sub, we talked about things that he wanted to try.
And so we started, he'd never done the full DOM thing before.
So we did a bit of that gentle stuff.
You're tying up, you're spanking, et cetera.
But he wanted to experience being submissive.
So I tried the Dom role, which I've done New York, which I've done, which I've done, which I
done it here and there. So the things that he wanted to try was him being really submissive.
So we did this thing where like I got chocolate mousse and stuff and went to sit up on the kitchen
counter dressed up, have him eat it off my feet off my toes, but very much sort of spanking him,
having him tied up. He likes to be called Good Boy. That's his thing. So did the whole Dom role.
And that was really incredible for me to experience. And we.
Whilst it's not my natural state, because I'm a sub, I can't know what I want in a DOM.
And it was really fun to transition that across.
Yeah.
And to explain, look, it isn't just about spanking this and that.
I'm going to be checking in with you very regularly because this is your first time just to make sure, you know, that you're okay and how you're tracking.
And I probably did that for about an hour, the DOM thing before I said, oh, look, I have to stop now.
I've gotten to my level of how much I can do.
But what I found really incredible in our sex is that he would be,
he likes to be a dom and a sub.
I have that side of myself.
So through a session, we would switch.
And that's really hot to go from him pinning me back and spanking me to me rolling over
and pinning him down.
And so we did a lot of things around role play, around that BDSMP.
And this guy can laugh.
because we would go for six, seven hours for a session,
and it would be like it was five minutes.
It's like I was sucked into this void where I lost all trap of time
and just, I came 12 times in one night.
Oh, my goodness.
But it wasn't like obviously having penetrated sex the whole time,
there's no way to do that.
But it was like things like, your massage, you're stroking, your role play,
you just naked the whole time.
And so, yeah, it was really incredible.
And for me, going in with that,
arrogance of I'm going to teach you and actually for me to be taught and for me to have so many
fists was really good as well. Yeah. And then because obviously he's here for a short period of
time and we live in an incredibly beautiful part of the world. I said, I want to show you some of my,
because I love hiking, some of my favorite spots. So we go for this weekend away,
we got this beautiful actual castle that we stayed in. I got my period. I was like, fuck. And it's
It was a lot.
I was like, I don't really want to have sex on the few days of my period.
Let's try anal.
Now, as I mentioned, he's a big guy, so took a lot of lube.
And I have done anal play before a bit, not a lot.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
When it's done pretty happy, I again experienced that anal is fucking incredible.
Yeah, totally.
Fucking incredible.
I came so hard off that.
it was just so sexy
and it was just this incredible experience
and there was so much that we tried
and more that we wanted to do but obviously
only had limited time to do it in
and can I ask you a quick question did you ever
because you know here you are a girl who has been
to swingers parties and stuff and hooked up with couples
did and I'm assuming he knew that you had done that
because you guys probably talked like yeah
you guys ever play with any girls or did you take him
to any parties or anything?
We would have loved to.
We would have liked to have had the opportunity.
I think, see, this is the one thing is I know that I just said, I never do newbies.
They were newbies.
But I was already attracted to him by the time I found out he was married and that they were,
this is their first time.
So it's kind of already, fuck it.
Like, this guy's hot.
I'm going to try it anyway.
So I did break that rule, which meant that a lot of it because it was so new to them.
So you've got the fact that it's new to them.
you've got the fact that they're currently doing long distance and have been for months at this point.
So yeah, I think that this isn't a unicorn situation, but it is a unicorn situation because she...
It is a unicorn situation.
Right, because she, you are with a couple.
She's just not presently there, but she is completely in the know.
And she is a part of the community.
She is communicating with you guys at all times.
Well, everything we did, like every...
So, for example, because he obviously doesn't have a car here, because he obviously doesn't have a car here,
because it's traveling.
So I'd say, look, don't be getting, he doesn't live that far,
especially in evening traffic, I'll drop you home.
But of course, I'm still working and everything in this period.
So I'm like, I can't be dropping you home late at night and really tired.
So there we'd say, well, if we're going to do sleepovers,
we built up to that.
It didn't happen off the back.
So sleepovers, she would need to proceed.
Be like, okay, this week I'm planning to stay over this night.
Is that okay?
And so when he was here, due to the time,
they'd usually speak about 10 p.m. hour time, which I think is like 6 a.m. New York time.
And I'd say, use my office, go call her. I'll stay out of your way for your phone call.
Then we'll come back together. And then when it came to sexual stuff, we wouldn't be like, hey, can I tie her up or whatever?
But she was in the know of what was happening. And when we went away for the weekend, he'd say, hey, we'd like to go away.
Are you okay with that? And I said,
wherever we go, there'll be Wi-Fi, so you can still be in contact with her.
So it was all like agreed, arranged, agreed-arranged.
The issue is, and this is why I am now very firm in not being with new couples,
that it was such a tumultuous time because it was incredible and we had this incredible connection.
But she, quite understandably, there were points and there was a pretty dramatic point involving a plane and an airport, obviously,
where she was like,
I don't know if I'm okay with this.
I don't know if I want this to continue
and then they'd have to talk about it
and he would keep me in the loop
as saying, look, we're going to talk about it.
So it was very up and down
and they didn't, they know now
they did not go about it the right way.
They didn't have the conversations
they needed to have as a couple.
So she did have her own exploration
whilst he was here as well.
But this is where I think,
And I've seen couples in Polly do it really right and I've seen them do it really wrong.
I think they're not necessarily really wrong, but they didn't have the conversations they needed to have as a couple beforehand.
It highlighted a lot of, as often does in this situation, highlighted a lot of things in the relationship that they were lacking from each other.
So it's now then, which is a really great opportunity to reset.
Because then you can have conversations.
I'm a very physically affectionate.
person. I'm very tactile and very
sexual. I love touch even
when it's not sexual touch and he's
very much the same and she's not.
So for him, having
this very sexual, tactile,
passionate person
is something he's never experienced
before. Obviously they've been
together for now what? Ten years
the sex life isn't what it was
and she has a much lower sex drive.
Much lower sex drive.
But the question, was there ever
any kind of, like she was never
involved, like, silly with you?
Like, you guys never, like, she never watched.
No.
You never cammed with her.
No. And I would have been fine with that if she wanted to.
But I think it was too much too soon for them.
That's like babysat.
If she's by, I'm by.
I think if we were all in the same place, it could have graduated for that.
Yeah.
Well, she should have been maybe watching and been a part of it and been getting turned on to
because it became something more between you.
two and I bet you eventually she felt left out.
We fell in love.
What?
Both sides.
Both sides.
What do you mean?
No, he's just he and I.
just he and I.
Hard because this is the thing.
So I'm, when it comes to relationships, I don't like to be vulnerable.
I don't like to reveal my full self.
It's a whole blah, blah, trust thing.
And I've never done it with anyone.
I've always held a little bit back.
But because he was leaving and he's a munition.
He's a songwriter.
are they tap into emotions and just his personality is one that he's very feeling and very in tune
with emotions and so he pushed me to be open and vulnerable which i did because i thought it doesn't matter
there's no judgment and if he does judge me he's fucking leaving the country anyway it doesn't matter
it's not like if i reveal my true self to this person that i've been dating for a few months they
might freak out and leave doesn't matter yeah i know sometimes sometimes
this is where you get in trouble with unavailable people.
Sometimes if you're a little bit unavailable yourself,
this is the way you feel the most comfortable
and you open up the most and you're able to actually fall for somebody,
but it's the one person who's not supposed to do because they're not a fucking avail.
And so he has got, basically we both come from similar kind of difficult backgrounds.
And so we had that trauma bond.
I come from a mental health background.
We were able to discuss a lot.
And so this, what was supposed to be like a set.
sexual connection with fun
friendship became love.
And so then it was
God, the drama, he
had to obviously leave. I take him
to the airport. It's tears at the airport.
It's, I love you. I wish
we could be together somehow
and him leaving.
And really, honestly, it fucked
me up. But wait a second.
Did she know that you guys fell in love?
Did he break that to her?
I don't know if he's told him. Okay.
Okay. I don't know. I don't think he
I think that, again, things that happened, it was a lot.
And then he got back and they weren't in a good place.
And so they're trying to rebuild that.
And I think that this will all come out over time.
You can't hit someone with a wall of information.
So he goes back and I said, look, we need to break contact.
I need to try and get over you.
Because on the one hand, I'm very aware,
this was a very intense connection from the get-go.
We spent a lot more time together than you would,
with somebody that you're dating or whatever.
And it was all that initial few months
of raced into glasses.
But on the other hand, there's so many qualities in hymns
that have lacked in previous partners
that I want in a future partner.
And it was just awful.
I was genuinely heartbroken.
I was going to let the listeners in on a little behind the scenes.
We had been set to talk with each other
many times to get your fucking story.
And you were like, you were cool.
Like you were straight up.
Oh my God, I just, I'm devastated now because this just happened in this story and I can't talk.
And I was like, counseling you via tax.
I know.
I was like, okay, let me know when you're ready to talk about it.
I would have cried the whole time.
And I honestly, I could barely get out of bed.
It was physical pain.
And I've been through a divorce.
I've been through a long-term relationship breakdown.
This hurt fucking more than that shit.
This was deep hurt pain.
I was like.
How long did the whole sex with him last for?
How many months?
God, only a couple months.
Was a couple, too?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, two months.
So anyway, then we go contact that allowed me to sort of process things, put it all in perspective.
We get back in contact.
I said, cool.
As long as she knows that we're in contact and she's happy with it, he said, yep, she does and she is.
He has obviously told her that there is a deeper connection beyond sex.
he's explained to her
we connected on these other deeper levels
and so she's very aware of that
I've said everything we talk
about is as long as it's
cool with her and
I'm talking to him around
I've got some cute date ideas
and why don't you do this romantic thing for her
with a female perspective to
try and help them get back
on track because all I want right is for
them to come out of this with a stronger marriage
and for me to use this
so get a partner and you
use this experience and use what I learned, go.
That's what I'm looking for in my next partner.
Oh, okay.
I like that perspective.
I'm glad that you're not like doing somehow to get him back.
You know that that is done and you've sort of set him free.
He's going back to his girl.
You're trying to help him over there.
But now maybe he was really in your life to really show you exactly what you're looking for
in a guy that is available.
This was like, yeah, he was like maybe what you needed just to, because I
feel like in the beginning when you were talking, I was thinking like, oh, you don't know what you
want or, I don't know, like you were putting a lot of different things out there. Maybe he made you
more clear about what you're looking for and helped you. He's 100% solidified. Yeah.
It's made me realize, this is what I shipped me right. So many people are like, sex isn't what's
important. It's about loving connection in a relationship. I'm like, no, sex is such an important part of a
relationship. It's how we connect. It builds intimacy.
Yeah. Whether that's swinging from your chandeliers or mission with the lights off,
whatever it is for you is what's important. And so I was like, so it can't, but I did
really, I can't do the poly thing again. It's really made me go, I can't be with someone who's
poly. It's just the potential you can't. No, they were E&M. But would you, let me ask you
this though. Would because you have seen what that couple did when they opened up the relationship to
unicorn would you go into your next relationship looking for third would you have an open relationship
because you are open to all these things oh interesting okay no hands down no i've always wondered
whether i could do it and when my marriage wasn't going well and the sex had dwindled i actually
asked him if we could be open so that i could still be with him but at those needs satisfied and
he shut it down immediately and no i wouldn't quite firstly this
has been a really good exercise and I think that if anybody wants to sort out their shit and
understand themselves on a deep level going into the poly or e-and-m world is really useful
because it may be ethical non-monogamy. Oh okay. Ethical non-monogamy. Yeah. So, you know,
you've got your ethical non-monogamy, which is we'll sleep with other people but won't get
attached and then obviously poly is attached. The thing is though, you cannot, you, and I'm telling
people now, if you're about to open your relationship or enter into E&M and go, we'll only have sex,
you cannot control who you fall for. You can put up all the barriers you want in the world with
you and your partner. You cannot control who you end up sleeping with and who you end up falling
for because you may meet somebody and you'll go, you're not going to sleep with something
you don't like, well, some people might, but most people need that connection. And if you like them
and the sex is good, the connection builds and you can end up falling in love.
And I think I wouldn't open my relationship because I realized I am jealous.
And I have got a jealous streak.
And I would not want to risk it.
Right.
Now, let me tell you this because I know that like when you email me first to be on the show,
all of this was still going on and you were just like sleeping with him and it was light.
And we didn't have this ending where you fell in love.
So it's a little bit different.
But I do know that in the email when you first sent me that you did say,
I remember you saying, I do think maybe my partner in the future would be a woman.
Okay.
So there was that little aspect to you.
Has that changed because of this?
Or are you open to it being a man or a woman?
Man or woman, either or for me.
I could be male, could be female, but either way, I wouldn't have my relationship.
I couldn't do it.
I'm too fucking, I know, I'll admit this, I'm too fucking jealous.
I wouldn't be able to do it.
And that has really been a thing for me.
What if my partner wanted to?
Could I overcome it?
No, I couldn't.
I just couldn't.
And I admire anybody who's listening.
who can put aside their jealousy
and have a genuine, healthy, open relationship.
Kudos to you, I couldn't do it.
And I had a date lined up actually with this guy
who he's married,
he's got a long-term girlfriend of two years,
and he has sort of other lovers.
And I actually messaged him after this experience
and said, I just, I can't do it.
I'm too scared of falling in love again
with somebody who's not available in that way.
I'm just not going to risk it.
And maybe, yes,
If I, maybe if I remained closed off and I wasn't open emotionally and vulnerable, then it wouldn't
happen.
But I feel like it was just, it was such an incredibly wonderful experience.
I don't regret it for a second.
There were times in the pain that I did.
I don't at all.
That sex was, I want them to open again because I feel like every fucking woman in the
tri-state area needs to experience this guy and his wonderful penis.
But I won't do it again.
But I will do couples again.
I have a date lined up with a couple for, because they've got kids, right?
So Christmas is crazy, but the first week of January.
Uh-huh.
So I'll do that.
I'm going to, because I'm not, I want to meet somebody.
I do want to date, but I'm going to be taking it quite slowly.
So for me, where I sit now after this experience is couples, yes, guys on the own, yes, girls, yes.
But I won't be doing like a poly E&M thing.
Single guys, single girls, couples.
That's where I'm like.
because you like the sex, you like to hook up with the women, and you like that whole dynamic
for the sex part.
I love the dynamic.
I love the dynamic of three people.
It's great.
And I feel like you get obviously with a petro couple, you get the male bit, you get the female
bit.
It's the perfect world.
But you wouldn't go, you wouldn't do it with a poly couple where it's confusing, like
this last one.
I think with this last one the problem was that the girl was far away.
That was like, like that was a little.
It's very unique.
because he and I, because she was, it's not like he was in his normal life. And his normal life is
really busy. He's got family, obviously friends, wife, work, blah, blah, blah. So his normal life
is really busy. When he was here, it wasn't. So we could spend every evening and weekend together.
Yeah. We could spend every evening and weekend together. And so that builds a level of intensity
and connection that you don't have in normal life. Like you said, his,
his wife was is overseas so you know there wasn't someone that he's I can't see you every night
because obviously I have a wife so it was a particularly unique circumstance and I am aware that
the chances of that all happening again is slim but the other thing the thing is so he does he's actually
you wouldn't know it when you first meet him or whatever but he has incredibly low self-esteem
and anxiety around not being good enough and not being would
and he doesn't think he's attractive, which is ridiculous.
What's his name of his band?
Oh, I can't because it's...
No, I'll tell you after it.
He's so fucking hot.
Or at least I find him incredibly attractive.
And then when the sex is that good and the connections there,
you just find someone even more attractive.
And so, like, from the first kiss, it's like, you are...
Like, he's the best sex I've ever had, which for a 29-year-old,
who's only ever been with one woman, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I can't believe.
that's the wild thing and he's I can't believe that I don't think you're lying but it's insane
that's true but it's not because you have some like amazing techniques or he's fuck loads of women
and it's the attentiveness they're willing to please the enjoyment of the whole body that isn't just
focused on tits and pussy like it goes for the whole body yeah and actually recognizing that
your whole body is an erogenous stone it's not just the holy triangle as I call it like the
thing can be touched and used and everything and yeah it was just so I mean this is the thing I'm a bit
gone shy about having sex again for a little while because I'm like it's just going to be so hard
to find something that good that's why you maybe need a girl yeah no comparison no comparison
yeah I told my friend he's gay I told her about obviously this whole thing and oh god my friends
have heard the whole thing blessed and they've been there from the beginning to the great sex to the
heartbreak. But I told my friend and she goes, you know what? It was so good. I said, why? He goes,
he fucks like a, he fucks like a lesbian. He fuchs like a lesbian. He spends so long on full
play and stroke. That's how less, that's lesbian. That's why you are going to wind up. That's why
that thing and you that thinks you're going to wind up with a girl long term is because you are.
But it was just like, it was so fun. And yeah, the foot thing was really an incredible discovery. And so now I'm
like, oh, I'd really love my next partner to have a foot fetish.
That would be great if I could get that.
You should add that on to your profile there because there's a lot of guys of foot fetishes.
They're calling into my show talking about it on the DL because they don't think that a lot
of girls would be down with that.
Oh, you should add to your profile that you're...
Do you know what?
I'm not really tough sex anyone yet.
I've actually deleted my profiles.
But what I might do is just put one up and be like, if you have a foot fetish and you want to play
with feet, play with my feet.
Yes.
I can't do anything else right now.
Maybe I'll do that.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you be...
Yeah, but why wouldn't you...
Because maybe you're gun shy right now because you're still getting a room.
I don't know.
But why wouldn't you be open to the guy that's massaging your feet
maybe being like a guy that you would want a date too?
You get everything in one package.
You know what?
You say this.
Right now I'm sitting here going, I don't really want sex in one else again.
Firstly, if someone's massaging my feet in that way...
And you're hooking up with a couple.
And you made a date with a couple after the holidays.
In a couple of weeks.
Okay.
All right.
Start off my new year.
I'll start off my new year with a threesome.
2023 is being born in with a threesome.
But yeah, maybe I'll just do that.
I'll be like, look, don't know where I'm up with the sex thing right now.
I did go out.
I bought myself brand new dildo vibrator.
That's keeping me company for a while.
We made porn.
He and I made some of our homemade porn as well, which I haven't done before.
And that's fun.
So you watch that.
You have those videos.
Yeah.
Like I don't have, I really like my body.
Like I'm, I think American size, I don't know how it works, but I love, and it's not
even about sizes anyway.
I personally have got body confidence.
I love my figure.
But then seeing it in video, I was like, God, I look great.
And it just gives you a sense of confidence.
You did send me pictures.
I have pictures for people to see already.
Don't you remember?
So if, yeah, so making the.
the videos was really liberating as well.
And if he doesn't want to be told that they're hot by someone that you found hot,
that's always great too.
So it was a really wild experience.
I tried so much stuff that I've never tried before.
I got my arrogance in check, recognize my jealousy, figure out what I want in a relationship.
And whilst it hurts, love is a beautiful experience as well.
So what a wild ride.
Yes.
Oh my God.
I don't know what I'm going to title it.
Is it going to be like a summer is a unicorn that's not a unicorn any,
I don't know.
You were a unicorn.
You've been there, done that, hooked up with couples.
You have a couple coming on.
You were a unicorn to a long-distance couple, and that failed.
So there's a lot going on here.
I love that.
Yes, a lot going on.
I'm glad you pushed this conversation out until you had come to the conclusion where you're at,
where you understand what it happened for, and you're able to move past it.
Because we were supposed to speak, like, in the middle of it.
So I think it's much better, though, that we didn't talk when you were in the middle of your crying when we were supposed to because it's much better for people to hear this story and hear the end of it where you got to the point where you should get and where anyone would eventually get to where you could see why it happened.
You could take from it what it taught you and not have any hard feelings and everything's fine.
And now you're looking forward to taking what you learn from that and creating a future with someone who is available.
And I think that's great.
They have learned from it and their marriage is going to be stronger and better.
And that's all I hope for them is that they have this beautiful experience.
And if they ever want to bring me in as a digital unicorn as it were via FaceTime,
I'm all up for that too.
Yeah.
And if they want to call into my show, they can.
But listen.
Okay, listen, Summer, thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story.
And if you get in with a guy, let me know.
I'm curious.
I'm going to keep you posted on what happened.
Please do.
And thank you so much.
your patience and for having me on. No, thank you. I love a unicorn. They're not, they're rare.
It was a good call. Thanks so much. I appreciate it so much. Take care.
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