Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 571 - Girl Talk: All About HRT with Don

Episode Date: December 23, 2022

Don and his wife were in the HRT business and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all about how the intimacy in his marriage tanked and how and why he went looking for a solution, how he heard about HRT pellets, how the pellets completely changed his wife’s libido and why they eventually went into the clinic business, how and why testosterone is so important for women, perimenopause and how and why its such a crazy time, the process of menopause and how it effects women, the good, better best methods of HRT explained, how he feels about hormone creams and pills and why he thinks pellets are the best, how long it takes for the pellets to start working, ow low testosterone effects men and how they can benefit from HRT as well, why he prefers the pellets over viagra, how to go about finding the right doctor for HRT, why checking hormone levels throughout the year is super important, how much HRT it costs, why he got out of the HRT business, how he still loves helping people and how you can contact him if you have an questions and a whole lot more. *The information on this episode is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. All content and information available through this episode is for general information purposes only. Please consult your health care provider before making any healthcare decisions or for guidance about a specific medical condition. **To see anonymous pics of anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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every effing intro is in the description. So no need to try and remember it now. Now today, it's Girl Talk Friday, but, you know, I'm talking to a guy, but it's really about girl stuff and it's about HRT, hormone replacement therapy. It's not just me talking about hormone replacement for women. It's also me talking to someone about it for men. Now, listen, there is a big disclaimer to this episode. I always give a disclaimer that I give unprofessional advice.

You know, I'm no therapist, but I love to give my advice. This guy who's talking about HRT is not a doctor, but he was somebody who was in the HRT business. He bought up a lot of clinics back in the day, and he did the pellet. So he knows a lot about it, but he will say on this episode many times, I am not a doctor. I am telling you right now, this is not a doctor's advice. this is one person's opinion. To get on H.R.T. Any kind of hormones, whether it's the pellets or bioidentical creams, pills, whatever your doctor is going to recommend to you, you need to see an MD.

So you could figure out which one is right for you. Now, Don, on this episode is talking all about the pellets. I was interested to talk to him about the pellets because that's something I'm looking into right now. We talk about that. We talk about the kind of hormones I'm on right now, why I want to switch. Like I said, this whole conversation is just our opinion, our experience to get your own real facts when you want to make the decision of what you need to do. You need to go to a doctor. That disclaimer will be in the description, but it's a super interesting episode because like I said, it's, you know, Don is, was in the business.

He's not in it now, so he's not pitching anything. But at the end, he did decide, and it was very organic. And he decided to make up an email for anybody listening to this episode that wants help finding the right provider to get the pellets that he's talking about. So that happens towards the end. But like I said, the good news is he's not trying to sell you something. He's not in the business anymore. He's just really into hormones. It changed his wife with his girl.

He's been married for a really long time. They, like many couples, eventually hit a wall where she was going through menopause and didn't want to have any more sex. he was devastated. He felt rejected. And so he took it upon himself to go out and try to find the answer. And once he found out about HRT and pellets, they actually got into the business. He talks about how he's on pellets now too. So we do talk a lot about how men can use hormone replacement therapy. What happens when they have low testosterone? What kind of women benefit from HRT? How it should be properly done, how it was done through him, how much a kind of of costs, all that kind of stuff. But like I said, the disclaimer is this is just his business, how he ran it with pellets, his opinion of what he thinks because he was in that

business. Like I said, on his board did sit a doctor because he wasn't a doctor. So he talks about that, but all of this is his view of things. It's super interesting. It's just a great informational episode.

Is that a fucking word? I don't know. It's a great informational. that word? I don't even know. I might edit that out or if not, I'm just going to leave it. You know, I wanted to have him on because whenever I have it on anyone talking about pellets or women who went on hormones and it changed their life, I get tons of emails from my listeners looking for more information on it. So here's some more information. And the good news is towards the end, Don does give out an email for you to email him if you want more information and he will help you find a provider in your area. He's getting nothing for it. He just likes to

effing help people. So it's a great deal. Wait till the end because he gives out that email. So I'm going to be right back on with Don. Hi, Don. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today. I'm doing great. Thank you. Nice talking to you. I was excited to have you on. I didn't know whether I was going to have you and your wife on, but what's interesting about you and your wife is you got into the HRT business at some point. I mean, you don't do it now, but you do have a backstory on hormone replacement therapy. You eventually got into that business. So you know a lot about it. And you found my show and somehow emailed me and said you wanted to talk about this. And I was, I was like, oh my God, it's like such perfect timing because any time I post an episode that even has like five minutes of some woman or man talking about the fact that his wife went on it or the woman saying she went on it and changed her life, I get so many emails of people asking me for more information on that because I think it is, you know, the loss of libido for both men and women is a thing that. It's a real thing that happens more often than not after a specific age, sometimes even earlier than that.

You know, and I always have wanted to have an episode just on HRT. And so that's what this is going to be all about. What a fucking long intro I just gave you. So wait, what did we call you? What's your fake name, Don? Don. Don. So tell me about, you know, because listen, I know that you and your wife went through things

before you wound up getting into the business of it all, right? So you're going to give all that informative stuff at the end. But like, tell me about your. and your wife's story, because I'm sure it's going to be similar to a lot of other people's story. We have been so fortunate, and we're this wonderful loving couple. We've been married 40 years. And you know, the funny thing was, we were high school sweethearts.

Right, one of those. That is lucky. And had a wonderful life, wonderful careers, two great kids, and everything was just chugging along fine. And then we hit about 25 years, and the train just came up. off the crafts. And I remember one night I reached out, and as guys do in the night, I reached over and I patted her on the bottom and just kind of, kind of, you know, having that moment in the night. And she rolled over and looked at me and she said, don't touch me.

And I was shattered. Yeah. I mean, this is my high school sweetheart. She's the love of my life. After all of these years, I still refer to her as my bride. and she looks at me with almost hatred in her eyes. And she says, don't touch me. And later on, I said, what was that about?

And she said, every time you touch me, I hot glass. And she said, you have no idea what a terrible feeling that is. And she said, I can't remember anything. And my skin's all dried out. And sex isn't any fun anymore. And she said, I just burst. And I just had to look at you and say, don't touch it. Yeah.

Now, let me get. I just got to tell you something right now real quick. Okay, I'm going to interrupt you because that's what I do. I'm so glad in a weird way. At first I thought, oh, would it have been better to get, you know, your wife on talking about this? But what I love about the fact that this is a, this is from the guy's perspective, I think it's really important because I think what a lot of women think is that men just want sex and they're just grabbing your bottom because they just see their wives as a piece of fucking meat and that it's totally okay to be like, don't fucking touch me with that face, you know? And think that a guy should just take that and they have no feelings about it. They think that just guys think about sex and they don't have feelings like they do.

I mean, and I think that that happens a lot. And, you know, and so I think it's interesting that, like, that was, like, devastating to you. I don't think a lot of women understand how that feels for the man because they just think that, oh, you know, a man just wants a sex. And if he can't have it, he gets mad at that. No, there's also rejection with that. And it is. It is. It felt like rejection. I mean, it hurt. Yeah.

I don't think a lot of women understand that. No, I don't think they do. And quite frankly, at that time, when she's going through all of this other stuff, I mean, she talked about the brain fog is what she would call it. You know, she couldn't remember things. And, you know, and, you know, not to get too intimate, but, you know, she talked about vaginal dryness. And, I mean, there was just wasn't nothing sexy about this. And it really wasn't about sex. It was about an. really important word, and that's intimacy. And, you know, women very often don't want to talk about menopause because it, and I found all of this out after a whole lot of research, but, you know, my background was I'm a textile engineer kind of by training, and I worked for big corporations.

And, you know, I didn't know much about menopause, and my wife didn't know much about menopause and nobody wanted to talk about menopause. And all of a sudden, I went into engineer mode. And it's, you know, let's find out what the problem is. Let's research it to death. Let's write a paper. And, you know, let's fix this. Yeah. And, and so I went, I went to school on the thing. And I went to seminars and I talked to doctors. And, and, you know, the sad thing was, She was going to her gynecologist and she was going to the general practitioner. And she was talking about menopause and everybody kept saying, oh, well, you know, we'll just give you a little estrogen or we'll do this or we'll do that. And what we found was that just really wasn't fixing anything.

It wasn't helping. And so we went on this, we went on this long journey. And it was several years and we tried pills and we tried creams and we tried everything you could try. and just by happenstance, I was doing some research on something called hormone replacement therapy, and a good friend of hers happened to mention that she'd had terrible problems with going through menopause at 45, and the hot flashes and the dry skin and the hair falling out, and the symptoms are just aching joints is a common one. Can't sleep. and she said, I take a little pellet and the doctor inserts it in my bottom about where my hip pocket would be.

And it releases some hormones into my body. And she said, I'm sleeping. And I want to make love. I want to have intimacy. I can remember what I'm doing when I go to the kitchen. I can remember where I'm going when I get in the car. and we said sign us up. Yeah.

And we both went for the meeting. We went to a clinic and they had an advocate there that explained everything to us. And it's not, it's your insurance probably is not going to take care of it. But it was still important and it's pretty reasonable for us. Listen, if you talk, if you take the amount of money a woman would have to spend on therapy, you know, to make them. a happy person and divided by, you know, every four months or three months that you need to inject those things, you'd be saving money on fucking pellets, okay, because... You know what?

I'm going to tell you this, and I did seminars all over the country for years. Yeah. When I was in the... We got so impressed with hormone replacement therapy in our lives that we actually bought into a clinic. Yeah. And what we found was, if you divide it out, it's about what your Starbucks habit cost you each day.

Exactly. That's what I mean. It's less than therapy. And instead of making you jittery, it gives you your life back. Yeah, totally. And so I studied it, you know, like I said, being the textile engineer. And so I studied it and I found that it's part of the enderkin system. And it's all about, let me give you the short version of it that the doctor will never explain to you.

But what we found out was women's bodies produce more testosterone than men's bodies do. And we all think about men as being, you know, hairy beasts that live on testosterone. But women's bodies actually produce more testosterone, but you have a gene, women have a gene, that converts testosterone to estrogen as you need it. And when you get to be about 13 or 14 years old, all of a sudden, girls take a little bit of a growth spurt, and they get their nice round curves, and they get their boobies, and women become women. and that's when their body is converting this estrogen, this testosterone into estrogen. And then the thing that most people don't want to talk about is they think that becoming a woman

is an event and going through menopause, it must also be an event. Well, it's not. It's a process. And unfortunately, it's kind of a winding down process. And at about 35, women's bodies quit converting fats into testosterone. testosterone, and if you don't have testosterone, you can't make estrogen. And if you can't make estrogen, guess what happens? Sex drive dies, you get grumpy, vaginal dryness, you lose your skin elasticity, your hair falls out, you get brain fog and hot flashes.

And they get worse, and they get worse, and they get worse. And eventually, women quit having her period. And you go, oh, well, I must be in menopause now. Well, you've been in menopause for 10 years. It's just- They call it peri-menopause, right? They call it pari-menopause, and even that doesn't have a beginning and a middle and an end, hardly. That's very confusing.

That's a very confusing time. I wrote a book called Perry-Fucking Menopause, because I do cartoons. Good for you. I do cartoons. I never published it, though, but I got a doctor to write it with me, like it, you know, because it was such a scary, confusing time. I think a lot of women, when they're going through perimenopause, what they do is they spend a lot of money going to many different doctors

because you think that you have many different problems because every other fucking day you have a weirdo symptom that's coming on that feels like you're just like something's wrong and what it is is just peri menopause, you know? You are so right. Yeah, and I'm like it's peri-fucking menopause and because I love that term. I'm like, I need to write a book Perry, fuck your menopause

because women get really scared. It's a very scary time. You're still getting your period at that time. So you don't think it has anything to do with that, right? But all of these things are coming on. And me and all my friends are running to all these different doctors because you think you have 10 different problems, and it's just peri-fucking manipause.

That's it. That's exactly right. And when your body, and if you think about it, you know, this testosterone is an amazing thing, and it's a hormone. Your body has over 50 different hormones that it operates on, and all of them are important. Yeah. But what your body does, what a woman's body does, what a men's body does as well, is we take fats in our food, our body converts them into a lot of different hormones,

adrenaline is a great hormone. And if somebody scares you in less than a second, your body goes into flight or fight mode and as a friend of mine says, your feet say, don't fail me now. And off you go, right? In less than a second. And that's how important and how fast these hormones function. And so let me give you a couple of things that are really important to understanding here. One is perimenopause is part of the beginning of a process.

but it really doesn't have a beginning and it really doesn't have a middle and all of a sudden one day the period goes away and we say, okay, you are now officially in menopause. Well, menopause doesn't have to be nasty and it doesn't have to be troubling. But it scares most women because it's kind of that magical point in life where we say we're getting older. But I'm going to tell you something. When our testosterone is up, we feel younger. The healthiness we are in our entire lives are the years when we are in our 20s and 30s,

maybe our late teens, when our testosterone is the highest. And our heart is healthy and our muscles grow and we do a little exercise and we feel great. And we can remember everything and we want to jump in bed and have great sex. And our body supports that because it goes to our fat cells and it pulls all of this stored testosterone and estrogen out and allows us to have these great feelings and to have these great skills and the stamina to enjoy it with and raise kids. I mean, raising kids, there isn't anything in the world that takes more strength and more stamina than being able to raise your kids and hopefully have a relationship with somebody else too. And it happens to men. It's called Andropause and it

happens at about the same time. So let me give you the timeline. Up through your teens, testosterone rises and rises and rises into your 20s, it rises and rises and rises. And all of a sudden we hit about 35 and the days get a little longer. And we just don't have the quality of sleep. And all of a sudden we can exercise all day long and our muscles don't grow. And we just kind of get tired and we get worn out. Into our 40s, quite frankly, it gets worse because that curve has topped and it's heading down. and our body is no longer making as much testosterone and our body is no longer making as much estrogen

and it happens with men and it happens with women women get hot flashes women get vaginal dryness women get hair loss women men get hair loss there's all these this long list of symptoms and we as you so well put just a few minutes ago we go to the doctor and we say well you know why isn't my hair falling out and he gives you a pill and he said why is you know why do I have vaginal dryness. Well, they give you a, you know, a cream or something. There's a lot more than that. There's every one, you can wake up one day and every joint on your body, eights for two days. But then it goes away. No, no, no, but then it goes away. No, no, but then it goes away. And then things come and go and you literally feel like you're

dying one day and you have fibromyalgia and then that goes away and then you have something else. There's so many things. There's so many more. That's, that you are exactly right. saying the ones that people talk about. And if you trace it back, and quite frankly, if you go to the endocrinologist, they'll give you a cream and say, here, put this on your arm, and, you know, and it'll help. And then you go to some other doctor, and he says, well, he'll take these pills and you go to another doctor and says, well, here, I'm going to give you a shot of estrogen. And, you know, and on and on and on it goes.

Well, here's the sad thing that we found after a couple of years of chasing this thing down. And it took a couple of years to finally figure it out for us before we found hormone replacement therapy with bioidenticals. And so here's the thing. Your skin's job is to keep the outside out and the inside in. So when you put a cream on your skin, your skin changes it. And even if you put testosterone on your skin, it doesn't get into your bloodstream and it doesn't get into your fat cells and it's not stored properly. And if you take a pill, your stomach breaks it down and it doesn't get to where it's supposed to be. A lot of guys take testosterone shots and they get rage because all that testosterone hitting you at one time, I mean, just literally causes rage in guys. The way your body

works is you eat a good meal, it takes the fats, it turns it into the hormones you need, and it stores them away in the fat cells in your body. And then when your body needs it, your brain sends a signal and your body says release a little bit of that testosterone, we're getting ready to have sex, or release a little bit of that estrogen. We need, we need, We need to be a woman. And so those are the things that testosterone and estrogen do for the body. As you get older, you don't need to develop more boobs. You don't need your period.

You don't need to feed children. You don't need to do all those things. And so your body really doesn't need the estrogen, but it does still need the testosterone. own. And so the hormone replacement therapy that we found, and that's all I can give you, I'm not a doctor. I've owned a clinic, but I'm not a doctor. But trust me, I've spoken to doctors, I've spoken at clinics, I know the subject really well. And what we found is the bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. Now, the beautiful thing about your podcast is people. Pellets, though, not because I did. And I'm going to talk a lot about what I did in my journey because I think it's

interesting, but, you know, HRT, bioidentical hormone replacement therapy can be a cream. I did creams. I do creams. Pellets are different. I don't know that it's like confusing because some people will be like, I'm on HR, you know, I do bioidentical hormones and I'm taking creams. You're saying creams don't work. It's pellets. I think there's a lot of different options. You researched all of them and found that the pellets work best for you. Now, are the pellets just testosterone, or is it a mixture of different hormones for whatever that person needs specifically through blood tests? Now, I'm going to be real candid with you and you can cut everything out you want.

I don't kind of, well, I'm hoping not to cut it out, yeah. One of our partners has had to be a doctor. Yeah. And so she was an extremely well-educated Dr. Harvard doctor. And her comment about estrogen is women after menopause or women in menopause, she would always just say when somebody said, well, I think I need some estrogen. She'd go, it's the bitch cream. She said, it's what, if you follow your cycle when you're having PMS, the worst days of your cycle are the days when your estrogen is the highest and your testosterone is the lowest.

And so she says, as a general rule, you probably don't need any estrogen. We might give you a little progesterone to balance you out because that's the feel good hormone. but she said, we're going to give you pellets. The pellets are made from sweet potatoes, interestingly enough. The pellets are made from sweet potatoes where they extract a bioidentical hormone, not a synthetic hormone. Synthetic hormones have been proven to be cancer-related. The bio-identicals are not. And so we always erred on the side of we were going to give small amounts of testosterone in a pellet that's about the size of,

of a grain of rice. It goes in a little trope. We insert it in the muscle in the rump so that it's, there's no organs or anything back there to bother. And there's a little bit of fat back there on all of us. And so what happens is it gets absorbed into the fat. And then over the course of two or three months, your body will slowly disperse it as it's needed. hormone replacement therapy in creams does exactly what I just said. It allows the skin to block most of it. So I'm not going to tell you that it doesn't work. I'm going to tell you that for the,

so if there's a good, better, best method, pills aren't the good one. The creams are not the best one. Getting that pellet directly into the fat cells in your body is the best way to do it. because it goes in slow and it comes out slow and you don't have to rub it on each day. You go get your pellet once every three to six months and your body will then absorb it as it needs it. Now, I remember I had a woman on who talked about the fact that she had zero sex drive and then she went on pellets and it changed her life. That's one of the episodes that I had on that was pretty popular that I get a lot of emails about. And I asked her, I said, oh, because, you know, I've been on creams, bioidentical hormone creams, all this.

this time. And I asked her, what were those pellets? Like, what was the name of them? How did she find them? Because it's a lot, it's very hard, I think, for women, because I went looking, but for women that haven't gone looking yet, it's very hard to find the right doctors to do these kinds of things for you. Because regular gynecologists know how to have fucking babies, okay? They don't know anything about menopause. It's very, and then every menopause doctor that specializes in this stuff doesn't take insurance. It's like a real problem for women because, you know, you sort of get left out in the dust when you need the information that you do. Oh, you're right. Yeah. And so I was, and she told me that it was a company called Biote.

And so I don't know. Is that the same kind of a thing? Do you know that company? Did you buy one of those franchises? Yeah, let me give you the short course. And again, this probably doesn't need to be, you know, in the interview, but just between me and you. No, no, no. I like for my calls to be more conversational than like, you know, so just go.

So here's the thing. In order to get any drug into your system, the drug has to go through the Food and Drug Administration. It has to go through a long series of trials and tests and so on. There is only, to the best of my knowledge, today, there is only one company that makes a FDA-approved pellet. And the name of the company, I believe, is SOTO-P-E-E, I think. and Sotomay. Now here's the catch with Soda Pelle. Every individual unit, so if they're going to give you 50 milligrams or 100 milligrams or whatever,

each one of those has to be independently tested over a long period of time. And that's millions of dollars. And so Soto Pelle basically only has one size pellet. And they've only tested it and it only has very certain. It's kind of like one-size-fits-all, and that's, you can't do that with women, yeah. That's right. And so, and so here's the workaround that almost all of the hormone replacement therapy clinics that use pellets use. By law, they can write a, a doctor can write you a prescription and have a compounding pharmacy make a custom pellet for you. And that's between you and the doctor

and the compounding pharmacy. So almost every hormone replacement therapy clinic out there has a deal worked out with their provider. Preferred provider. Very often it's somebody local. We were in South Carolina. And yet we bought our pellets from a compounding pharmacy in Colorado. And so the doctor would have to write a prescription.

And I'm on, I'm on HRT for 16 years now. and my bride's been on it for 16 years. And so they would write a prescription for her pellets. And so this is a little bit kind of advanced, but one of the things that you do is called weight dosing. So if you're a bigger person, you probably can tolerate and need more hormones. If you are a smaller person, you probably need fewer. So guys get a lot of pellets.

as a general rule the pellet size will be about a hundred milligrams for the ladies it's usually 250s and a you know and something else but weight dosing is is the way it's done and so we would literally write a prescription we would fax it out to Colorado they would make your pellets for Kathy Kaye and they would come in we would have to sign for them we would put them aside we would call you and say, Kathy, come in. We're going to do your blood work and make sure where your current levels are, because that's extremely important. Anybody's just going to take a guess and poke you, that's a bad doctor. What you want is you want somebody that's going to do your blood work, and they're going to look at your white blood sales, and they're going to look at all of your

hormones, and they're going to look at your testosterone. They're going to look at all these things, and they're going to do a little magic calculation, and they're then going to do an insert. And you'll drop you'll drop your trousers and they'll do a little stick in your bottom and they'll stick this little pellet that again is about the size of a grain of rice in a fat, in a little bit of fat there on your rump and it will. And it lasts for months. But this is, but you didn't answer my

question about biote. Because listen, this is, you're not in business so they can't go find you to get these things. People are going to be like, oh, I want these fucking pellets and then they're going to go looking for them and they're not going to go nowhere to look because I've done all this research and I know the roadblocks that are out there, and it's very hard to find someone that does pellets. What I found and why I like the whole biotee thing, or I don't even know if I'm saying it correctly, is if you go to their website and you put in your zip code, okay, they will give you a list. They'll find somebody for you.

They give you a list of all the providers in your area that actually do them, all the doctors, you know, and then you could go and do. I mean, I'm hardcore Googler. I don't just go to anyone. I find the best of the best, and if it takes me six months, that's what I do, because I do a deep dive. I'm going to get, you know, I did all that research for people, but I want to let them know that if they want to get these pellets, how they find the right person. Is biote like just like the McDonald's of pellets, meaning like they're doing the same thing that you were doing, but they're just a big company that does it sort of all over the place like a franchise? And here's the main distinction.

Yeah. They only make pellets. And so then what they're doing is they're hooking you up with local doctors that buy pellets from them. That's what I mean. So they're just. So you're right. You could go to them. Now, so again, one of the beautiful things about a podcast is anybody can back up a couple of minutes and listen to this again.

But what you want to do is you want to go Google it, Bing it, you know, research it online. But you specifically want to look for a local doctor that does bioidentical hormone replacement. Is biote a bioidentical hormone replacement pellet? Do they offer this? It'll be bioidentical hormone replacement therapy with pellets. Is that the bio? Does biotea do that? That's the search you want to do.

Does biotee? Do you know what biotee is, that company? I don't know that company. Oh, okay, that's all you need to answer me. I'm asking you 10 times. Okay, so you don't know. Okay, so you don't know. Just say, I don't know.

Let me tell you, let me tell you a cute story. Yeah. So we go through years and we tried everything you could buy. over the internet. We tried all of the herbal stuff. We tried the prescription stuff. We tried creams, vaginal creams. We tried everything. And to be truthful, she got a little bit of relief. And it's reason I keep saying, you know, there's kind of a good, better best. Creams help. But they're not, they're not actually in your body to, you know, to be there on demand. And you've got to put them on every day and you've got all that kind of stuff. I really became

infatuated with the pellet therapy because we took the meeting. We went, we met with the doctor, we met with the advocate, we signed the paperwork, we laid our, you know, we laid our credit card down because you got to pay for it because quite frankly, almost no insurance pays for HRT. But Kathy goes in, she gets her pellets a few days later, and we wait. And first question, everybody asks, well, how long will it take? Well, for most women, it takes somewhere between three and six weeks for that pellet to get into the fat and then into the bloodstream. And so here we are, you know, every night we're talking, kind of hoping this thing will kick in, you know, and she's feeling a little better after three or four weeks.

And we're laying there one night about five weeks into her pellets. And there's been no sex. And I'm fine with that. I just want my sweetheart back. I just want her to feel great again. And that was what we were told we would get. And I'm laying there one night and it's three o'clock in the morning and she rolls over and she pats me on the bottom. And she says, hey, baby, while we're up.

And we made one. passionate love. And she initiated because she actually fucking wanted it. That's right. That's right. And here. Yeah. And here's the thing.

And I talked to, you know, I did seminars all over the country doing speaking engagements about HRT when I owned a clinic. And, and here's one of the things, you know, a lot of guys will say, oh, well, I get Viagra. Let me take something about Viagra. Viagra may give you an erection, but it doesn't do a thing for your head. Right. You may not have the desire for intimacy. You just want sex.

I wanted my sweetheart back. I literally looked her in the eye one night and told her then. She said, what do you want from me very angrily? And I said, I just want my sweetheart back. And it was a long process. But let me tell you something. The wonderful thing about testosterone is when it hits a 16-year-old, he's got love in his eyes and an erection in his pants, right?

the same thing is true for women women want to be in love women want to have passion women want to have sex and the beautiful thing about the hr t pellets is it gets in your system it gets in your head and all the sudden you want to be romantic and you want to have good sex and those don't have to be the same thing, but both them are pretty good. I have, I have to tell you, we had, we literally had hundreds of clients. And some of them were young. Yeah. And some of that, some of them were older. And I'll tell you the, I'll tell you the people that, they kind of proved the case to me. Yeah. It was the women that it had a hysterectomy. Because the, because the, because the minute you have a hysterectomy, your body goes out of the, out of the estrogen testosterone

own business. Yeah. And so what we were doing is we were placing a pellet into the fat cells. It was slowly absorbed and it was slowly dissipated. And so what that tended to do is that tended to level you out. And in order to know how much leveling you need, we did a lot of blood work. We would do blood work about every 90 days. Now, you were coming back in 90 days to get blood work. You were not coming back in 90 days to get more pellets. But what we would do, and we were trying to round that curve out and so that it was much more level every day. If you put, if you put cream on your arm or you take a pill, I'll guarantee you in the next six hours, there will be a spike. And then over the next 24 hours, it'll go away and you'll do it again. With the pellets, the curve is kind of about every 30 days.

you'll get a little up and a little down out of the pellets. So I'm going to tell you that my experience, and I'm not a doctor, but I've been on it for 16 years myself. My bride's been on it for 16 years, and we counseled hundreds of people. And I can tell you the pellets level you out. And whether you're in paramedopause, whether you have had a hysterectomy, whether there's some other issue with your system where you're having a hard time with these swings. The pellet therapy is the most level thing we've ever found. Yeah. I understand that.

I mean, I'm looking into, I'm on. I still see my regular doctor that I was seeing, you know, when I was in Perry and still doing the creams. But I don't feel like there's an end-all be-all. I'm not at that best place that you're talking about. I don't have hot flashes or anything like that. But I don't feel like I did before. I don't feel horny all the time kind of stuff. Though when I have sex, I'm good to go, you know?

But it's like you don't have that desire. And that's what I hear from a lot of people around my age, too. That's what happens. And, you know, when I'm on hormones, I should not be feeling that way it should be better. But I- The pellet therapy is great for desire. Yeah. It works in your head as well as in your body.

Exactly. And that's important. Let me tell you a cute story. As we were going through the process of trying to find what is going to work best for us. And I'm not saying pellet therapy is the end-all, be-all for everybody. It may not be. I mean, there's people out there that it works for. And I can tell you, it's a high number.

There also are probably people out there that doesn't work for. But we had a retention rate of about 96% of the people that started with us were still with us five years later. And I'm still on them 16 years later. Now, let me take you the story. My daughter is quite a character. And I walked in the door one evening. And as I walked through the laundry room, my daughter stopped me. She was 14 years old.

and 14-year-old daughters are, you know, kind of always, you know, fussing with somebody. But she stopped me and she said, Dad, I don't know who that is in there. And she pointed to her mother in the kitchen. She said, but she's going to hurt somebody. Wow. Because it was in the days before we had found the pellets. Yeah. And one day she would be, you know, hot flashing and she'd just be miserable.

and she told me one day, I've never, I tell this story too often, but it's funny. She said, I don't like you. I don't like the kids. I don't like the car.

I don't even like the cat. We don't have a cat. Right. But the worst thing is she didn't like herself. I mean, nobody wants to be that person. You hit it on the head. The one thing she didn't say,

she said, she didn't say, I don't like me, but that's exactly where she was. She didn't like herself. Who wants to feel like that? It's fucking awful. Nobody wants to feel like that.

No. And I have to tell you, she's been on them for 16 years. And I can tell when she's, you know, when she's three or four months in and the pellets are starting to kind of run out, I'll touch her in the night and, you know, and she'll hot flash. And, you know, breakfast the next morning is, well, looks like I need to make an appointment next month to, you know, to get my, get my pellets again. And when she goes and gets her pellets, it'll be a couple of weeks and all of a sudden we'll be going somewhere and she'll, you know, she'll touch my hand or she'll touch my arm or she'll, you know, she'll touch my arm or she'll, you know, She'll whisper in my ear and she'll say, I've got my tingle back and, you know, we're ready to go some more. You know, we're in our 60s. Yeah.

And we're, and we're, and you know, this is not about me having sex. This is about intimacy. And this is about a couple that's been married over 40 years now and we're still crazy about each other. Yeah, and that's important. And I would, I would absolutely have lost my bride and the love of my life if if we had not found help because it was the train was off the tracks. And a woman, listen, that's a part of a woman that she loses as well.

It doesn't feel good, but what I think unfortunately happens is that, you know, what comes first to chicken or the egg, like, but I think what comes first is like the woman loses her hormones and she loses her desire and she loses all that. And then she doesn't care. You just don't, a lot of women don't care.

And she feels bad about it, but she can't do anything about it. So many women are past it, okay? I think you feel bad about it in the beginning and then that goes away. You don't even fucking care. And that's the problem. So someone has to be there. Like if the guy listening to this episode, get your girl to the fucking appointment.

If you're a woman that forgot that you care, but you think maybe you should, just fucking drag yourself there even though you don't think you want to go or have no desire for it because it is the thing. But I'm going to tell people how to do it because it's like I said, it's very hard to find the right providers to do this where you are. Right. there's a lot of scammy people in this business. Okay, you're going to find that are going to fucking rape you.

It says people are doing HGH and all that kind of stuff. And then they're doing bioidentical hormones. What I think is the best thing to find if you want somebody that really knows what the fuck they're doing is find an internist that's also doing it. You know, someone that's an MD and doing this as well. It doesn't have to be a gynecologist. You know, it's just somebody that's going to test you and do your blood work and really know what is going on. and what you actually need because there are a lot of people that are going to like like i said selling this stuff but they're not going to do it right and if it's not done right you can lose more

hair and you know that's where you hear some horror stories but a lot of times it's because the person isn't going to the right person who's really on top of it and watching them because you do want to check your blood every couple of months just to make sure and not someone that's just going to look at your symptoms but biotee b iotee okay i don't know someone told me that was the ones that they were on you. Go on their website. I'm telling you they give you a provider list of like 50. For me, I'm in New York City area, so I got like a tons of people and researched them all. I looked for somebody that was also an MD and then search their fucking reviews and then called them up and do that kind of stuff. I'm actually going to be going to somebody and do it.

And I'm going to talk about my journey. Every, you know, as I say, I became an advocate. I became one of those people that would sit in the office and say, I'm not your doctor. I'm going to hook you up with the doctor. Yeah. but let's sit here and let me answer your questions because I'll take all the time in the world with you. Yeah, yeah, that's great. And as we would sit there and talk, we just found that people, they wanted to feel better. And after they had been on the pellets for six months or a year, I always got the same number.

It was so strange. I would always get the exact same number. I would say, how are you feeling? And we actually had a little form, and we would make them fill it out. each time they came in, and then we compare the first one with the most recent one, as to how their symptoms were. And the same number kept coming up, we would say, how, you know, how you feel? And they go, I feel like I'm 20 years younger.

Yeah, that's great. I feel like I did when I was, you know, they were 60 years old and looking for, you know, looking for any answer. And after six months or a year, they would say, I feel like I'm 40 again. So it's a, it's a, again, I'm not a doctor and there's no one answer from. You're a guy that, but no, no, but what you are also that we haven't spoke about is you're a guy that's on them. So why don't you talk to me about, because we've been talking mostly about women and I've been giving my experience. Let's talk about what was going on with you and why you eventually went on them as well.

What's that story? Well, you know, when a guy gets to be about 13 or 14 years old, he wakes up with an erection every morning. It's just morning wood. It's what guys get when you get to be 14. And when you're 16 and 18 and 23 and 35, you know, the wind can blow and you can get an erection. And all of a sudden, somewhere around 40, you've got to start thinking about things a lot more. And you kind of, you know, got to have a willing partner that's willing to help you get there. And it's because at 35, 38, 40, most guys, their testosterone starts to fall.

And without the testosterone, you know, our bodies don't convert it to it. estrogen. Our bodies need the testosterone for muscle mass and for endurance. And the other thing is, you know, you never hear, well, I shouldn't say you never, you rarely ever hear of a 25 or a 35 year old having a heart attack. And it's because those are the years when our testosterone is naturally very high and our muscles are heart is a muscle. Our muscles are extremely healthy. Yeah, testosterone is related to heart health. And so when, when, you know, When guys start having heart attacks is exactly, you can follow the graph. I've done the research.

You can follow the graph and as heart attacks go up in age, testosterone is plummeting. A guy gets to about 50 and all of a sudden he starts going to the doctor. And the first thing the doctor does is he puts him on a statin because his cholesterol is high. Well, guess what testosterone is made out of? It's made out of cholesterol. And so the first thing. Well, maybe that's why my cholesterol's got a little high. higher when I'm older now because I don't have that testosterone because I don't take that.

Could be. Yeah. Could be. Yeah. And for guys, it's especially important because we're not trying to convert it to estrogen. We need the raw testosterone. Yeah. And so they put us on a statin and our body flushes out all this good cholesterol that's clogging

up our arteries, but it also then has nothing to make testosterone out of. And so our testosterone plummets and we start having heart attacks and we start having muscle. issues and we start all of a sudden we can't get an erection for anything because we don't have a testosterone to help pump us up now so then what do we do now we go back to the different doctor and we say I'm having ED I can't get it up anymore so it's like the woman that's running to millions of doctors for 10,000 different things same shit it's exactly guys you're exactly right yeah you know and and so all the sudden you know the doctor signs the prescription and we get the little blue pill and all of a sudden we can get an erection but our

head's really not into it she's all the sudden interested in having sex now i've got to go take my little pill and i have an obligation i feel but my head really isn't into having sex when we when i went through that after my bride got on the hormone replacement therapy and all of a sudden her sex drive was back and now i'm having a hard time keeping up with her and and i'm having a hard time keeping up with her And I go back to the same doctor and I say, tell me about hormone replacement therapy for guys. And they explained andropause to me and I go and research it. And sure enough, there's a real thing. And it's just almost identical to menopause and a woman.

And it's the fact that the male production of testosterone drops and erections become a problem. and I said, well, sign me up. And so they gave me a bunch of pellets. How old were you at the time? Do you remember exact age? I can tell you exactly. I was 50 years old. Never had had a problem having an erection of my life.

We'd always had a wonderful sex life right up until menopause hit. And then we go through this four or five years of, you know, trying to find the right answers for her. And now all of a sudden it's me. And I'm not too proud. I want to have good sex and she wants to have good sex. So, you know, I say sign me up. They give me my pellets.

The nice thing for guys is, for some reason, we don't, we're not, don't have quite as much fat on our bottoms. And so the pellets hit us a little faster. So about three weeks later, I wake up one morning and I've got morning wood like I had when I was 20. And I say, hey, baby, while we're up. And we start having really great sex. and it's intimate and it's and it's wonderful and we're all I mean we're just we're happy to be back together again and my joints don't hurt and and I'm sleeping better my hair's not falling out I'm just having a wonderful experience thanks to hormone replacement therapy it's a little

more expensive for guys because we take more pellets to get us up to our levels than the ladies do but it's still very affordable. It's not much more than that cup of coffee at Starbucks in the morning. If some prices about how much it is around. Because I think, like, that's what I always wanted to know. Like, just what the fuck is around? Like every three or four months, what are women are going to pay and what are guys going to pay around? Okay.

So we used to sell a contract. Sign you up for a year. We'd let you out of the contract anytime you want to quit. But we'd sign you up for a year. And for the ladies, it was. was about $15 or $1,600 for the year. And that was all of your blood work. That was your doctor's exam.

That was as many pellets. That was as many pellets. We would give you as many pellets in a year as it took to get you to the level you wanted to be. So you come in and we'd start you with maybe two pellets. We'd weight dose everybody. And we'd start you with about two pellets. And six months, we do blood work.

Sometimes we do it at 90 days if you weren't responding real fast. And the next pellet may be only one pellet, or it might be three. But we're working to get the symptoms gone. We're working to kill the hot flashes. We're working to kill the fog. We want your skin to be supple. We want your vaginal dry, your dryness to go away. We wanted the symptoms to be right.

And so our agreement was, if you'll sign up for a year, we'll do whatever it takes to get you leveled out. Right. For the guys, for the guys. But typically a woman's going around three to four months, every three to four months, right? To get those. About every week, the way we did it and with pellets, we found about every four to six months.

Four to six. Okay. Even better. Okay. So twice a year and maybe, you know, maybe three times in 15 months or something. Not bad. Okay. And for 15 hundred.

That wasn't one bad at all. No. It was very affordable. And, you know, you could put it on your credit card. You could put it on your care credit account. We, you know, we would pay the interest on it for, you know, for the first six months or something to make it affordable. Guys took three times or four times as many pellets to get us up to where we needed to be. Yeah.

And the other thing you've got to remember is if you've been going through perimenopause, if you've been into menopause for a while, that tank is empty. I mean, it's, it's not low. It's empty. And so when we give you two pellets, your body just sucks them up like a sponge. So the first time it might be 90 days. But the next time it's probably going to be three or four months. And the next time it's probably going to be four to six months. Oh, interesting.

Now, for guys, let me tell you for guys. Our contract for a guy was, I think it was $2,400. And so that's $200 a month. That's, you know, it's 50 bucks a week. week, but you got to remember back in those days, this has been 15 years ago, but back in those days, you know, Viagra was 10 bucks a pill. Yeah. So that was, again, and we put it on payments for you, and whatever it took to get you where you wanted to be, if you wanted a rock hard erection all the time, as long as the doctor was happy with your numbers, you know, we'd give you a couple extra

pellets. And if you were just, you know, you just wanted the gray days. I always said that, you know, women's, women's symptoms are nasty. The vaginal dryness, I mean, the horror stories I would hear people tell me about how painful sex was. It just broke my heart. I mean, I've literally sat there in my office and cried hearing people talk about these horror stories about how terrible that, you know, sex had become for them. And, and, and the, the hot flashes. I went through chemo twice in my life. And one of the side effects of the chemo I was on is I had hot flashes just like a woman did. So I understand. When you're talking about hot flashes, don't think just because I'm a guy, I don't understand. I do. And, and I get it. It's nasty. It's, it's terrible.

It's, you know, it's awful to wake up in, you know, in a wet bed at night from the night sweats. So we were all about relieving symptoms and getting people to a point where they wanted to be. And over the course of a year or two, we would get that thing tweaked out where you would have the desire that you wanted to have. You would have the sex that you wanted to have. Your memory would be better. Your joints didn't hurt. You were sleeping better at night. It's the same for guys.

The process is almost identical. little pellets and we put them in a in a in a trok and and and insert them in a fat cell in your in your bottom it's not very painful uh you don't notice it by the next day and you know we put a band-aid on it and that's that's the end of that and i always kind of joke to guys you know it's a whole lot cheaper than the divorce and the sports car um because guys just kind of gray away we just kind of go sit in a chair and get the remote and we just don't want to do anything when that testosterone dies. And when you get that testosterone back, all of a sudden you want to play with the grandkids

and, you know, and you want to chase your wife around a little bit. And you care about things in life again and your memory works better. It's just a, it's just a, it's, you get your life back is what I always told people. Why did you guys go out of business? Well, I came in one morning and the payroll bounced and one of the partners was missing. and so was $700,000. Oh, you're kidding me. No, I'm serious.

Is it a doctor or just that? No, he was not a doctor. Okay. He was actually, he was a guy that came to came to the hormone replacement therapy business from one of the compounding pharmacies. He worked for one of the compounding pharmacies where we would send our prescription off

and they would make our pellets and put them in a little glass bomb and send them to us, right? And he decided he wanted to be in the downstream side of the business. Yeah, so he bought in with you guys. He calls around a bunch of the doctors that are sending him prescriptions and says, hey, you know, I've got some influence and I've got this and maybe I've got $100,000 or whatever it was. And I want to be in the clinic business in Greenville, South Carolina.

And the doctor said, hey, you know, sounds like a good deal to me. because she literally had her own practice across town. We rarely ever saw her. And if we needed to talk to her about something, we had a phone interview with her, with whoever was asking questions. And the law in South Carolina was, as long as she was within 100 miles, we could operate.

Yeah. So we had two clinics 99 miles apart. Smart. Yeah. And then, so that person robbed you by and you lost all your money, so you got out of the business now. So what happens to the people that are listening? They're like, oh, my God, you've talked them into it.

They're like, I want to try these pellets. Like I said, try that website to look for a provider. How do people get the information? What would you tell people now? Again, again, I think you're on the right path because I'm also a dedicated Googler. And what I would do is I would Google hormone replacement therapy pellets. And look in your local area. And then go to, they'll have a website, go to their website.

Do not let them talk you into pills and creams. Those are kind of stopgaps. And they might work. But be sure you investigate pellet therapy first. Or at least also. Yeah. Again, I don't have a website. I don't do speaking engagements anymore.

I just care. I love your, I love your podcast. It's one of my, one of my, one of my, I love that. One of my little personal things I like to listen to it. Yeah, that's awesome. And I love the way you ask questions, and I love the great stories. And, you know, and it's all very titillating and it's kind of fun.

And sometimes, you know, it works its way into Pillow Talk. And that's great for us. But when I hear you occasionally get somebody and they say, you know, well, my wife just doesn't want sex anymore. Well, you know, maybe you're a bad lover or maybe she's just going through menopause. I don't know, but I do know this. We're all going to get there one of these days. You know, ladies, you're all going to go through menopause or you're going to get a hysterectomy

or something's going to happen and you're going to need some help. Guys, same thing. You know, guys, like I said, it's a lot cheaper than the divorce and the sports car, and it's a whole lot better than just graying away and not having love and passion in your life anymore. I want nothing more or love. less than I want my sweetheart. We have been so happy together for so many years and we have such great stories and we just want each other to be healthy and happy. I nearly died twice with cancer.

And we understand what that's like. And you're like life sure. I mean, you have the perspective. You know, like I mean, I'll be taken away. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? She was when when I wasn't able to, when I wasn't able to perform. because of the chemo. She loved me just the same. Right. And when the chemo was over and I got my pellets back again and the intimacy returned, it was wonderful. I just wanted my sweetheart back and she just wanted me to live long enough to be here

for her. Right. No, it's a big problem. Like I said, I was very excited because you just happened to email me out of the blue about this when I was thinking now that I added some extra. episodes for a week. I don't typically do like informational things, but I did want to do something all about HRT because like I said,

whenever I have an episode that even has a little bit in it, people email me about it. Women and men looking for more information. I was hoping that you would still be in business so I could send people to you. Like what happens if somebody emails me about this? I'm like, I can't find somebody because

like I said, listen, you're a professional Googler. I am too, but a lot of people don't know. They just don't know how to be resourceful and find the people like. I mean, Do you know? Let me say, let me say this. Yeah. You know, I have a life and I'm kind of semi-retired.

But I would literally, if somebody can't find what they're looking for, I will volunteer. If they'll send me their information and tell me where they are and how old they are and stuff, I'll literally Google for them and try to find them somebody I think might help them. I love that. I was hoping that you'd say that because I feel like I am going to get a lot of people. Like I said, I'm a hardcore Googler. Like, I love nothing more than solving a problem, finding what I need. If you were on a like a scavenger hunt, you'd want me on your fucking team. Like, I don't stop until I find out what, find what I want, right?

But most people aren't like that, you know? So they need people like us that love to do it, right? You're that way. And so why don't you, can you please give out your email and I'll also include it in the thing? Would you mind that? That would be the easiest way because I'm just so busy to get that, you know, to be the middle person. If you could just give like an email, do you have one already set up? Or do you want to make one?

And then I'll just give it in the intro. Let me make one specifically for this. And that way I don't give away, I don't give away my personal email address. Okay. So what I'm going to do is when I error this, I'm going to put in right now. I'm going to give you, I'm going to, you're going to email me the, the, your fake, you know, your email address that you're putting just for this information. That's right. into the episode, I will insert it at this point right now.

I will say this is his email, you know, so I'm inserting it right now. The email is about H-R-T at g-mail.com. Again, the email is about H-R-T at g-mail.com. So if people don't want to Google, they're not like me and you, they could email you. and you'll help them. I think that's fucking awesome. That'll be great. Now, Kath's got her own great story.

She's got her own perspective. Quite frankly, she likes to talk about HRT for guys more than she really likes to talk about HRT for women. But she's extremely knowledgeable on both. She should have been a nurse. She should have been on this call. And you can have her on call if you want. We'll make a time for her to call you and you can talk to her. Yeah.

Listen, this HR. episode is going to stand alone. You're going to be the expert. Like I said, I'm going on my journey to do the pellets, and I think I found a doctor that I'm going to do it with and get, you know, myself. So I'll be talking about that. Are you in New York City?

I am, yeah. Okay, all right. Why? I was just trying to think if I know a few guys are around the country, but I don't really know anybody in New York City right now. Yeah, I mean, I think I found a great person. Like I said, what I liked about the woman that I found is she's an internist. I spoke to her, because I've,

done so much research, I know like what the right things. And she does pellets. She does pellets. She does cream. She does everything. She does intensive because she's an internist. So she does intensive blood work to find out what is the right thing. But she really is knowledgeable with everything. I was. Yeah. I was very, I was very fortunate. Our doctor, like I said, was a Harvard trained doctor. Yeah. She runs a concierge practice. You write her a check for 10 grand. And then she builds your insurance for everything else each year. She's a high demand doctor and just pop notch as they come. And I learned a lot from her and with her.

And then I went out and did speaking engagements for other clinics to help to help them kind of get up and running. So I know the business really well. And I have a good friend in Dayton, Ohio that does our pellets. But I just, I don't know anybody in New York City. right now. I'll ask around for you. Yeah, ask around if you can because I did find one woman. Yeah, go on. Do this one thing for me. Yeah.

When she tells you that she's going to do the insert. Yeah. She's going to want to do it her way and you're not going to change her mind. But some doctors do it on the lower part of the belly right above about where your appendix is. Yeah. Because there's always a little fat right there. Yeah. Other doctors do it on your rump about where your hip hip hip hip.

is. Yeah. If you have a choice, always choose the rump where your hip pocket is. Okay. Better than this. It's a better place. It's safer. There's no organs in your butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For somebody to accidentally puncture. So if you have a choice, you'll be much happier on your butt. And it'll be sore for two or three days. And then you'll, you know, you'll be done with it. Yeah. No, I'm definitely thinking of it. I wanted her to, I was going to have her actually. She was like, oh, you're on a podcast. I was like, you want to come on and be like, you know, talk about my journey. I was like, maybe I could get it on the house, you know, because I'm like, now that I have a huge audience,

I'm like, I'll advertise her. I'm trying to get like a good deal. Because it is out of pocket and it is very expensive. And I want to do it the right way where I'm always being checked and looked at. And listen, wherever you live and you charge $1,500 for the whole fucking year. In New York City, times out by five, okay? Everybody rapes us here. Everything here is 10 times more expensive.

I have to, I have to tell you, I wish I, you know, maybe something. day we'll get a chance to have dinner together or something, but you seem like a really neat person to me. And when you get the pellets about six weeks in, you're going to be a horn dog. I know a certain guy that would be very happy about that. Like, yeah, I think that it's great. I do believe in it. I love that you came on and gave some more information. It was perfect timing for me because I am looking to switch from kind of okay to the best, which is like what you said.

I'm on the creams, but I want more and I want it. you know, I want to feel even better. I do believe that the pellets are the right way to go. I'm going to be able to speak on them because I'm going to be doing them very soon, probably at the start of the year. I love that you gave all the backstory and all the information to everyone else listening because I think that there's a lot of people that want this information, just like me, anybody that's...

I have no idea what you look like or what you weigh, but as a general rule, we found over the years, weight dosing is a really easy way. to get where you're going. And so if you weigh 120 pounds, you're going to want about 120 milligrams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Okay, so if you weigh, you know,

if you weigh 150, you're going to want about 150. So that's where you want. So if they say, well, we're going to give you 30 or 40, push. You're going to need more. Right. About equal to your weight. Oh, interesting.

Okay. These are all little things that I'll know that she's doing the right thing when I talk to. We have learned. We have learned the hard way. Yeah. And we know this. So, you know, I'll keep you posted. If I have any questions, I'll be able to ask you.

You'll be my person too. Yeah. Anytime something comes up and somebody throws you a curve or if you just want to talk about, you know, a different angle of this, call me. I will. Send me an email. You send me an email, call me. I'm at your service. I love it.

Well, you're going to be at my listener service too because you gave out your fucking email and people are going to be emailing you. And I love that. I think that that's like so great. I love offering that to people listening because I think it's a real problem. People need help. Make sure you get a real doctor that's doing it or somebody like you who has access to the doctor. You know, it's really met, supervised by a real MD. If they're not starting with your blood work and your symptoms, leave.

Yeah, exactly. Yes, make sure. It's been a pleasure talking to you. I hope I can help you another time. You will, and your girl's going to come on soon. Thanks, Dom. Thanks for calling in. I will have her call your line.

or send you an email. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much. All right. Bye. Thank you, dear. Bye.

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