Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 575 - Fetish Friday: Ron is Into BDSM, Branding, Forced Bi Scenarios and More

Episode Date: December 30, 2022

Ron is into bdsm, branding, forced bi scenarios and more and he called in to talk all about it. When did he get into bdsm? When did he have his first forced bi scenario? And, who branded him and how d...id that all go down? Tune in for all the details including, his mmf threesome, how and why he started swinging early on, his interest in bdsm and hw he got branded, the pay party he had for his birthday and exactly what went down there, where he meets the doms he hires, his Kink.com friends and what they’re all into, The Public Disgrace kink.com party he attended and what went down there, how he wound up in a Kink.com video as well as other porn clips, what he was doing in the videos, the Legions of Sins motorcycle group he belongs to, his ex wives and why he’ll never marry again, his relationship with a pro dom high escort and why that ended, why he prefers dating escorts, his first forced bi situation, how it was set up and what went down, how much he pays to see the pro doms as well as here the for private parties, his long term relationships and friendships he has with his doms and how he has helped many outside of the dungeon, the time he helped a sex worker get out of the brothel she was working at and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of most of Ron pus most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Anyway, what else do you have to tell you? If you're listening on YouTube, make sure to subscribe to my show. If you want to comment about any of the episodes, go to my YouTube. Now, this is Fetish Fridays, and I have Ron. Oh, my God, poor Ron. I taped this episode so long ago. There was a lot of editing that needed to go down to make this episode sound correct. and so I sat on it for a really long time,
Starting point is 00:02:59 but I am finally airing Ron's episode. Ron has been there, done that. He is like, sent me picks, I think I told you, okay? Because he got into like branding and all kinds of stuff and he showed me or sent me some like really interesting branding picks because he talks about it. And then I'm like, I didn't really understand the branding thing, but he actually sent in picks to explain.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So I have picks of Ron over on my Patreon if you want to see them. All the information I just gave you before is in the description. But anyway, Ron called it to talk about how he's been like heavily into the BDSM community. He's done a bunch of threesomes. He's been to doms. He was like, has a lot of friends in the kink.com community. Do you know that website? He's been in like a couple of videos.
Starting point is 00:03:52 He's just like, he was in that world. so he met a lot of people and hooked up with some of the doms on there and then wound up in their videos. He was married a couple times, but not anymore. He gets in relationships with some of these dominatrix that he's had, as well as some I and ex-escorts that he's seen. And he talks about those relationships and how he's helped them. He talks about why he'd rather date professional escorts, why he prefers that. That's what he does across the board. he's not getting married anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:27 He talks about some forced-by situations that his dom set up for him. He talks about the parties that he's thrown and the doms that he hires and what exactly goes down, how much he pays for it, his long-term relationships, like I said, with some of them. Not only here in the U.S., but also overseas, he went to some brothels when he was traveling, and there was one girl in particular that he helped, and he tells that story. And he tells that story as well as so many more specific stories. Like I said, he also sent in picks of his branding and all kinds of things that he talks about in this episode and the whips and the marks and the branding.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That's from my Patreon. But anyway, let me get to it and finally air Ron's episode. Okay, I'm going to be right back on with Ron. I'm not calling you slut. What do you want me to call you for the show? And I'm taping this part because this is hilarious. I ask him, what a welcome slut. I ask you, what do you want to be called for the show?
Starting point is 00:05:29 And you say, call me slut. Oh, my God. Make up a name. Call me Ron. Ron? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, Ron. So, Ron, so you have an escort.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You have like a prostitution thing. You have like play parties. You have videos. You have a lot of stuff like that, right? Yep. I started actually meeting sex profession. Now, the family parties, that I'm. I was like 18 driving a car in the street.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I was with a friend of mine. We saw a girl that worked there. She was about 19 or 20. She was a little older than us. She approached the car. We started talking and we never did anything with her. We just became friends. And because we were living at that time,
Starting point is 00:06:18 the type of car that I had, it wasn't in the US, but it was old American car. And this is what type of car that pimps in there used to use. And she was independent. So she liked the idea that we were friendly, we drove, you know, once twice a week by her job just to say hi. And so the other girls saw that she had a pimp.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So they didn't tell their pimp that she doesn't. And they will try to take her and make them pay them their commissions. Oh, that's smart. So you guys were like her beard. Yeah, we like her cover. Yeah, we like the covered that she doesn't have any pimps. Yeah, smart. So, whenever any sexual thing is her, just one time we drove,
Starting point is 00:07:03 she asked me, can you drive fast? I say, yeah? She just exposed her breast of the guy in the car next door, and she told him, if you catch me, you can fuck me, and tell me, now drive. Let's how fast you can go. Okay. Now, with any of your wives, did you ever get into any of the crazy stuff
Starting point is 00:07:20 that you're going to tell me about. Was this the stuff that we're going to discuss all stuff that you did, like, behind their back or before them or after them? With my second next, we had the agreement that as long as she doesn't know what I do, she doesn't care. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And I told her, if you're doing something, please give me all the details I like to know. Right. It would turn you on. Yeah. And she never told me. But one time when she came and she went into bed and I went down on there, she was so healthy to like she had sex with somebody just before. Oh, you think so?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. I never asked her. She never mentioned it, but that's what it felt like. Mm-hmm. Okay. So then I started having like a cum-hitting fetish. And many guys, usually a lot of my sexual. encounter or just happy ending in the massage.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And many times, so guys tell the girl, you know, make me eat when they come after I'm done. And most of them after they come, they changed their mind. The girl never tried to force it on them. And I was liked it, you know, every time to come, you change your mind. Till one time I was in a dungeon in the Netherlands and then I told the girl that was in the BDS invention and we played a bit. And then I told her, you know, after I can't make me eat it. So she said, no problem. Even though I changed my mind, she forced me.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I was tied up and I had no much of, no other option. Right. But obviously you were there like as a sub. So in that kind of situation. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, it was okay. Suddenly I had the guts to get my fantasy into reality. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And the fantasy was you wanted to be a, submissive. Yeah, the fantasy was that I wanted to be forced to eat my calm. Oh, okay. So I said, why to waste it, right? So how did you get into the whole dungeons thing? So, like, I mean, you've been divorced for a long time for 17 years. So I, you've had enough time to really play and get into all the things that you're into.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Oh, yeah. Yeah, the past 17 years, so I started, yeah, I went to a place in LA, and then I moved to San Francisco and there was a place there that I went to and I became friends with the woman that returned the place and then she opened another one. She moved to another location which is still running it and she started she started having an open play parties there for the communities. The open play parties I found out that a type of exhibition is it. I like usually to do all this shit in front of other people. I don't know why you make me laugh. Okay, so you went, started going to these swinger parties and then realized that you like to do or have sex in front of other people and have them watch.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Or did you like to be a submissive and you're calm in front of people that you were doing? Yeah, that was part of it. Yeah. Yeah, I was in my come getting pissed on, getting hot iron branding, getting pegged. Wait, wait, wait, branding, would you just say? What was that? Yes. Branding, what's that?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Like you're getting, like they take that, they put like it. They take a surgical metal piece. Okay. And they heat it up. They write their initials on your chest with it. Does it ever go away? No. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:02 How many initials do you have on your chest? True. So you like the pain. I mean, I was going to say, did it hurt? But that doesn't matter. That's a part of it, right? Obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I don't like the pain. I like when the pain is stopped. You see, the way, the way. I see it, you have a certain level of comfort zone. Right. Okay? If you're going to have sex or have an orgasm now, okay? So that's put you in a higher level of comfort.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Let's put you in the enjoyment part, right? Yes. So the fun that you're having is between your comfort zone and the higher level, right? Right. Now, when you're going to the big disson and you're going into some pain, some other shit, that take your comfort zone and push you down and down and down of your comfort zone. And after that, you're having the orgasm. So the distance between the lower and the lower zone and the higher zone,
Starting point is 00:12:01 it's much bigger. So you're having much more fun. Do you see my logic? Yeah, totally. And so you did that twice. Because, I mean, I would just, I overthink things, you know. So I would be like, you know, you get branded with someone's initials on. you're going to explain like the next person that you're you're with and maybe if you ever want to
Starting point is 00:12:20 have a relationship again i mean i don't know are you going to put it out there like i like to go you know to dungeons and get branded i don't i don't know like you know did you ever were you ever concerned with that you see it's i figure out as you're getting older yeah you don't give a fuck about what are the things yeah you're right right how old are you now by the way ron what are we calling you what's your name? Sludge. Ron, that's right. Yeah, yesterday was my birthday. Happy birthday. How old were you
Starting point is 00:12:51 yesterday? 66. Oh, nice number. 6-6. Okay. So, and you're, so you're single since you're like 49.50? Don't ask me how to celebrate unless you want to. Okay, well, does it go with my show?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Of course. Of course. Tell us. There was a little play part. on the 11. Okay? So, and actually I met two girls on Fat Life. Yeah. So I invited them to the party.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So I was celebrating, tying up to the bed, one sitting on my face and the other one sucking my dick. Right. And you arranged this for your birthday, or did one of your friends set this all? No, it was some guy that you organized once a month a party, and I took advantage of it and invited the girls. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Right, right, and then did your thing there at the party. Yeah, and tell them, but hey, if you want to play, let's play. And how do you find these girls in FetLife? Because I feel like a lot of people, would a lot of people complain about as far as, like, the men complaints. It's like, oh, you go on websites like that and all the women or solo women. You know, it's hard to find the real ones. Like, there's a lot of fake people out in those places.
Starting point is 00:14:05 How do you find not one girl, but two girls to come and play with you? Were they girls that you've known before? I found one that I met before. Yeah. And she brought the other one with her friends. So she brought her with. Oh, all right. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Mm-hmm. So you must have a lot of friends in this community since you've been in it for like 17 years. You said that you made friends with the one woman who was running that one party, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah, I have most of my friends in the community. are some of them used to play for kink.com.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Mm-hmm. site. Well, I remember this. Me and you did have another conversation before, so I know a little bit. Right. You've been in one of their videos, Kink.com.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, I've been in one of those videos. And some of the members of the Kink.com used to have a, they still have a motorcycle club. They call it the Legion of Sin. And back then, I was riding a bike. I mean, one of the rides, I had an accident. It brought scenes. So a lot of them used to ride motorcycles
Starting point is 00:15:08 So they were in the clubs And all the people in the clubs Were just into the BDSM community So it's so that's the way I met some Wait so what was the name of the motorcycle club? Legions of Sin Uh-huh Okay so that a lot of those people that are a member
Starting point is 00:15:27 Of that motorcycle club Are also on or featured on Or in videos in Kink.com Is that what you're saying? No, I say some of them used to work, but some used to walk behind the scenes, some in front of the camera. Okay, and other members were just people that are into the BDSM community. Okay, right. So they're all into Kink in one way, she was. Right, okay. Yeah, because the same people that used to do that used to work for Kink, so they used to come to event in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:16:04 so this is where you met, so you met other people. And obviously we all have other interests behind the VGSM and the sexual aspects. Right, but tell me how you wind up in a kink.com video. Well, one of the things in kink.com, they have something called public grace. Public disgrace. Yes. So in this event, so you get invited. so the naked place
Starting point is 00:16:37 looked like the one that I was participated, the naked plate looked like a gallery and people coming to watch the art on the wall. And then a girl there to be abused and they let some of the
Starting point is 00:16:52 people that are like the audience to play with her as well. I wasn't naked there. I just used my hand and my fingers on her. And then I had the friend that he didn't knew about me being in it, but a couple of years later,
Starting point is 00:17:08 suddenly bring me like a like a memory key. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, a memory card or whatever, yeah. So you bring me a memory card and he said, here, I saw you video. Oh, my gosh. Your fucking face, you allowed your face on it?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Oh, my goodness. You weren't like in a mask or anything? No, no, I was with my face. It's okay. Hey, I'm playing there. So if somebody watching it, so he can feel jealous, I don't care. Right. What your point is is like, if they're watching it, they're into the same thing. Yeah. And I was just, I wasn't naked and I wasn't doing, you know. Yeah. And then I had the message that she was using clips for clips for sale. So I play with some of her in her hair clips. So on those clips, I did wear a mask. Oh, okay. Oh, so in another clip, you did wear a mask where you did play around with them.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yep. So no one would see who you are. Now, you have all these friends in the lifestyle because you've been there for a while. We'll go back to a lot of the stuff that you did. But real quick, do you have, like, people in your regular life, do any of them know what you do besides the guy that had the, you know, found your video? Do I know everything that they do? Well, I mean, you're pretty much involved. I would say you're in the lifestyle, you know, and it sounds like you're pretty involved in it,
Starting point is 00:18:40 and you know a lot of people, and you've been doing it for so long. So, yeah, does anybody know about the kind of lifestyle you lead? The only one that knows a little bit, but not everything, okay? It's my daughter. Okay, let's unpack that. Halifah, what do you mean? Your daughter is the only one that knows. How does she know?
Starting point is 00:19:06 She doesn't know all the things, but she knows that I'm in the community and that I go to play parties. That's it. She doesn't know exactly what they do there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't know about the videos. But the rest of the people, I'm mostly, I have very, maybe I have two friends. And I'm mostly a long world.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's, I'm, my work, I always start all the time on the road. I don't get too much people. I don't get involved with too many people. Oh, okay. So you work solo, like whatever you do, you work on your own. Yep, I work solo. And that's, uh... Are you a truck driver?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yep. Oh, I love my truck driver. I can't tell you how many guys write in to my show. And they'll be like, oh, you know, I'm a truck driver. listen to your podcast when I'm driving. I just like to know who's listening. You know, it's interesting to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I have a lot of truck drivers. That's the way. That's the way I listened to you the first time. Yeah. So, okay. So your daughter, so how does the conversation come up that like, oh, to your daughter that you go to play parties? Like, did she find something and that's why you admitted to her?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Did she ask you like, why are you with a woman? If I told her, no, if I told her that. I'm going, so I'm going. And one time, actually, I started kind of dating one of the, I started dating a girl that used to be a pro-dom. She was a pro-dom, okay. She was a high-to, high-hand escort girl. High-end escort, okay, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Then she moved, and that she was one of the Heidi Fries girls. You remember the case? Yes, of course. So she was a Heidi Flies, high-end escort. Now, did you meet her because you hired her? Not for escort. She used to work in a dungeon in L.A. after the old case blew up.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And then she stopped escorting and she started working just as a... Dom, a pro-dom. As a pro-dom. Oh, okay. I met her then. And then it's... And then we... started kind of dating for a short while and one time she met, she came with me and she met
Starting point is 00:21:35 my daughter. We became friends. Unfortunately, then I moved to San Francisco and we lost touch, but it, so when my daughter asked me, I'll make it. I told her in the play party. Right. And she was cool with your daughter. Yeah. Yeah. How did you, well, how long did you date that pro-Dom X Heidi Fleiss escort? And why aren't you with her now? I just had only for like a month or two. Okay. Because I was living in L.A. back then. And then I moved from L.A. to San Francisco to go back to school.
Starting point is 00:22:13 So you were too far from her, but you did date here for a short time, one or two months. Yeah. Yep. And now, have you ever had any long-term relationships besides that one or two-month thing? I mean, you were married for three times and you've never been married since. But in the 17 years that you've been single, Have you had any long-term girlfriends and did you bring them into the lifestyle with you?
Starting point is 00:22:36 No. I'm a friend with a couple of girls that they were in the business and then retired and we're still friends but I mostly feel more comfortable with the women that are in the business and know what they're doing
Starting point is 00:22:56 and are professionals at it. Right. You like the transactional relationships you have. You see, they say that it's, you know, they promise the Muslims if they blow themselves up, they go to heaven with 72 virgins. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 So can you say that again? Because sometimes with your accent, it's hard to understand, but I want to make sure people hear that. Okay. They're telling the Muslims. In the Muslim community, yes. To the radical Muslim,
Starting point is 00:23:25 go blow yourself, kill some people, kill some infidels. and you'll go to heaven and you'll have 72 virgins waiting for you there. Right. I remember with September 11th with the hijackers, that's what was in it for them, supposedly. So I try to imagine myself sitting in front of 72 virgins, each one holding a copy of the Kamasutra, and I'm trying to tell them what I like. A torture.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I rather have two professionals. 72 virgins. Totally. I agree. I don't see what that is. What, you know, what kind of guy wants the virgin? I guess he wants, it's some part of his psyche that wants to take something from the girl. You know, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But, yeah, I get it. Like, you know what you want. You know, you've been married. You've got times. You have all that. Now you're at the place where you know what you want. You do it with a woman. Like I said, it's transactional.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Everyone's fucking happy. And you're maybe. live in your best life. Yep, I am. Right? Yep, I am, no complaint. And now how, like, I mean, is this, you know, you're 66 years old, you know, and we always wonder as women, like, you know, especially the married women that are, like, having
Starting point is 00:24:45 to fuck their guy, you know, all the time. Like, they're maybe hoping that maybe when he's 66, he just doesn't want to fuck as much. Like, I mean, where are you at your age, like, you know, you just had this birthday party where you had, you know, a girl on your face and another, you know, you get a threesome. an MFF threesome. I mean, have you slowed down at all? Or have you just revved it up because you're in this lifestyle and you're just so involved?
Starting point is 00:25:09 It depends. It's, you know, sometimes I can be months at a time on the road and no action happened. And then if I have a week off, I can celebrate a lot. So, but it's, you know, today they have a gather via the Viagra and everything fine. Right. So you have that come, like eating fantasy.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Now, does that translate to other guys as well? Like, have you ever hooked up with guys or no? Yeah, it wasn't a couple of forest buystands. What they call? One time I went into a dungeon, I met a beautiful girl, and she was the pro-dom. We had such a great chemistry. it's my session started for one hour at 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And it ended up at 6 a.m. Then she asked me if I'm interested in forced by and I said, never try. I'm willing to try anything. Forced by? Is that what you said? Forced by? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Okay. So being forced to hook up with a guy. And you had never, though, before that time, you had never done this at any of your play parties or any of that stop. No. Okay. No. So the next day she called me and she said,
Starting point is 00:26:29 okay, are you available now? She said, okay, come over. So coming up and have a guy on the spanking horse tied up. And one lady is pegging him with a strap on. And she made him suck my dick, my friend. And the other was spanking his back. And she told me, yeah, he like once a year to have an extreme. dream sessions, but, and I said, yeah, well, he's having all the fun. He's having all the fun.
Starting point is 00:27:03 He's having all the fun. Can try it next time. So another time she arranged for me to try to be more and more of the stuff. And it was fine. So you were the guy that got fucked in the ass by the girl that was pegging him and you blew a guy. Is that what you were the second time? Yep. And how did you like that? I loved it. You loved it. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. So like, would you? consider yourself like heteroflexible, like kind of like if, you know, if you're in the mood or you're in the dungeon and something comes up, you know, you're just going to maybe go for it. Why not? Right? I mean, forget what that's called. There's different terms for it. But, you know, it's kind of like it doesn't, it doesn't mean anything long term. It's just like in the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That's what you do because you're in the moment. Some call it vicarious. Right. Mm-hmm. So I don't know, probably somewhere between what they call. bi-curious, bisexual. Mm-hmm. And this is where it stays now. It gets more, evolve more. I don't know. The future will tell.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Well, when was that experience, your first buy experience? How long ago? That was about 13, 14 years ago. Oh, so it never progressed and you haven't done anything since? Oh, no. I've done a bunch of same scenarios. over the years. Oh, okay. So it wasn't just that one, it wasn't just that one time. That was the first time. And then, then you were open to that for the rest of the time. Okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah. Yeah. Well, if I, you ask me, I don't like it. And I said, if I loved it, so why? I don't know. If you do something and you like, why not try it again, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, some people are one and done. You just never know. Listen, I have, you know, I've been doing my show seven years and I always feel like, oh, start to maybe make assumptions, but I don't think you can. I mean, every person is very different. And just when I think that I've heard it all or I kind of have a scenario pegged for the way that it goes, somebody tells me something that's totally different, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:10 And so I think it's important to ask always. Who knows? You could have maybe done it and loved it, but never wanted to fucking do it again. Yeah, you know, I was listening to a podcast the other day, and they were trying to get some Funny things that happen to people in bed. Right. Yeah. So one girl said that her mother caught her giving a blow job or parents interrupting the middle or such a thing.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Well, that's boring, you know. I had, let me tell you a funny story. I had one time my mother was a friend. We pick up a girl and we brought her home. And, yeah, she was interested in playing a little bit of the same. Okay. Yeah. So she's tied up.
Starting point is 00:29:57 My friend is fucking your mouse, okay? And I'm spanking her. Now, every time I give her a spank, she wants to say hi, but she has a dick in the mouse. So she bide the dick, and my friend say hi. So every time I spank her, my friend say, Ouch! Hilarious.
Starting point is 00:30:17 That was so funny. You know, this friend, like you said, me and my friend picked up a girl. So I'm assuming these are friends. in the lifestyle community, people that you meet at these parties? It was many, many years ago, and he's not parties, just. It was one's event. The guy that he liked to fuck around the lot and play a little,
Starting point is 00:30:40 but he wasn't like in the community or, I don't think that he, I haven't met him for many years. I don't know what got to do with him today, but it's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the baby mama, right? you had one of those wives is the mother of your child, so I'm assuming you still talk to her. Does she know any of this stuff? I have kids from my first and my second one.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Okay. So are you in contact with both and do either one of them know about all of this stuff that you do or any of it? Maybe the second one suspect a little, but I'm not sure that she knows all the detail. Mm-hmm. They know that they do crazy shit and they don't know exactly what. Right. Right. And nor do they probably want to know the specifics. Yeah. But, okay, so now I know that most of these things that you do, I'm assuming you got to pay a little bit to go to these play parties, but these other like doms and pro doms that you go to. I mean, do you spend a lot of money in, you know, having all of this SCX in your life or most of the things you go to free? It depends. Sometimes they're going. It's free. And sometimes I spend money.
Starting point is 00:31:52 When there is a play party, so sometimes I'll go by myself and try to find somebody to play with there, or sometimes I make a session with the pro-dom, at the play party itself, and then I have one that she knows how to get other people to encourage them to participate as well. But if I wanted to, like, two years ago, I made a nice play party just for my birthday, So then, yeah, I took all of the calls because I have like one, two, three, four, four professionals. Oh, you had to pay them all. You foot the bell. Yeah, because, you know, it's just was my party. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:38 If I wanted one of my bucket list was to have a model lying down on the table and sushi all over the body, you have to pay for it. Right. Yeah. How much was the biggest party you ever spent? I don't know. I liked prices of things. I mean, how much was that party you did when you had the four professionals? A couple thousand?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Let me see. Yeah, about a couple thousand. And when you go to a pro-dom and like, I mean, like you said that, oh, I had that one girl and we had such great chemistry and I went in at 11 and it ended at four. Now, like, what do you typically when you set up an appointment with somebody, what do you typically book and how much around is it? When I go to a party with a pro dom. No, when you hire a pro dom and you go to a dungeon. Oh, so usually they are between 250 to 350 per hour now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:32 It's if you want to extend the time or you have a good relation, so some of them sort of you only like 500 or 600 for a couple of hours. Right, that's their minimum. No, the minimum is usually an hour. unless, but if it's in a play party, so then I usually book it for like 90 minutes or two hours. And because I'm playing with the same girls in the party for many years. So they usually give me more time and we have more fun.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And then it depends. And usually if I have some extra, so I keep them extra. Right. When it's come to my fun, I'm not thinking about it. Right. And you know these girls, like you said. I mean, a lot of these pro-doms you've seen the same ones. Yeah, I have one that I'm saying for like 13 years now.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh, wow. 14 years. Wasn't there one? And I feel like I remember this from our first call because we had a private call. And I know that you didn't feel like you could call into the podcast because you felt like your accent was too deep. And you didn't know whether it would be right, right? I'm hoping that people will be able to understand this. I got to see whether I'm going to air.
Starting point is 00:34:48 because I do love this story. What I do remember is that you would become friends with a lot of these pro domes. And there was one in particular that you became very good friends with, and you would help some of them. Yeah. Yeah, I had a couple of them that I helped financially when I could and mentally engaged in support. Even the one that I was dating that used to be the Hedipa Lysgirl. Yeah. So we had a lot of talks.
Starting point is 00:35:21 She was a very smart woman. But a lot of the women that they met are usually smarter above the average women. The average women. Yeah, interesting, right. And they can do a lot of things. Yeah. They can do a lot of different things if they just put their heads into it. And then when I started talking to her and told me talk about finance,
Starting point is 00:35:52 and I saw that she got a really good head for finance. And I told her that she should try to approach this field. And eventually she did. The Heidi Fleiss girl, that project. Is that what she does now? When last time we talked, that's what she will start doing, yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. So I found out that the girl did going into six.
Starting point is 00:36:17 sex work. Yeah. Very few going into it because they like it and enjoy it. Most of them, when they get into it, because they broke and they found out this is the only way they can start making some money. Right. To getting on their feet of it. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But then it depends how they manage the business and how they manage their money. Right. Because with this type of work, a lot of it comes that they start spending on closings. on drugs, on alcohol, on makeup, and another shit. And at the end, and I've seen women that are in the profession for 35, 30 years, and at the end, they are broke the same way that they were when they started. Right. And I think it's sad.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Well, I see others that knew how to invest the money, buy some properties, you know, or went into other fields. and make good money even when they decided to retire from it. Right. They were still successful. And can I say what you did before you were a truck driver? Before? I know, but can I say what it was?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Because it pertained a little bit to the story. Okay, so I know, because we had that private call, that you, and I do private calls, people pay. Like, I call it consulting, you know, and like we have like a conversation, but I just don't air it, you know, and that's what you did first. And I remember that you. You, you know, I know you were an accountant, you know, and this is what's so interesting about you. You've had, like, if you were like a, you know, your chapters of your book are just, you've been through so much, right?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Here you are at 66, but like you were a guy that, you know, besides your three marriages, you have two daughters, you all, you know, two children. You also were an accountant and now you're a truck driver. I mean, it's, you know, you were like I said, a serial binogamous or just like, you know, and now you're kind of like a fucking swinger. I mean, it's like, it's very interesting. you've lived many lives. And so I think accountant in you was always coming out with these girls, right? Because you knew how to help somebody with their finances. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Back in the days, I had a few of them that I used to manage their taxes. Yeah. And there was one in particular didn't. It was a devastating thing. But you were actually very close with her, right? Yeah. The first one was the first life. Then she ended up killing herself.
Starting point is 00:38:42 She was bipolar and in and out of mental hospital, then she just couldn't take it anymore. Because I remember you were telling me about this relationship with her. Then it was devastating to me because then you told me how it ended. And I was like, oh my God, that's like terrible. But, you know, it can happen, right? It's not meant for everybody. And I have seen some of those girls in the moment
Starting point is 00:39:07 when they talk about their experience in the session. some of them have scars from it for all their lives. Yeah, terrible. And they probably had scars to begin with. I mean, I've talked to a couple of sex workers, you know, and I love when I talk to the ones, because listen, like anything, it's never going to be 100% one way.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Probably the majority of them, like you said, are the ones that they're not getting into it because they love what they're doing. You know, they might be backed into a corner, they need the money. But you do find, and I feel like I have spoken to that 10% there's a girl I have taped and I haven't aired her yet. She's a little well known.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Her name is Frenchie. Frenchie superstar they call her. She was on soft underbelly, soft white underbelly, I think is the name of this YouTube thing and she was an escort that was interviewed by this guy and this is what he does. And her video went viral like five million or billion views already. Like I mean, just, you know, when people were so taken by her and so was I. And, you know, and she would even say, like, this is not. And she's a high-end escort.
Starting point is 00:40:14 She's been in the bunny ranch. She's really interesting to listen to. But this girl loves to fuck. It didn't happen. She was working in a bank. It just kind of like, you got to hear her episode. You know, it's really interesting. But she always gives the disclaimer.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, this is not sex work is not for everybody. Like, it could be really bad for most people, you know? It's not. I think you need to be able to. to disconnect your physical from your mental, to know how to enjoy the physical aspect, but in order to keep your mentality and sanity. Right. Yeah, so I have seen my share of all this different type of girl that went into it.
Starting point is 00:40:59 It was, once I was in a different country, I went in a brother there, and a girl started going down on me, and then she started crying. and they asked her, huh? Yeah. And I ask her, what's going on? And she said, well, you're my first client and I just need to make some money. I have two little kids and she had two little kids and she was only 19. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:41:27 But I want to do it. But, you know, I'll overcome and I'll tell her, listen, stop now. If you don't want to do it, I'm going to try it amazing 15 minutes. if you come out and change you if you come out, I'll help you get a real job. Right. So, and I went out
Starting point is 00:41:45 and she came out and I help her. So I help her, I train her for a job, and then I help her rent at a place and I bought her a car and it, and she was able to start getting on your feet, on her feet little by little. Oh my God, I love
Starting point is 00:42:03 that story. So let's add that. That I love that story. I love your whole story. I really hope people stay tuned and listen because I could understand you. My father's Lebanese though. So maybe I just know this kind of accent, right? It's like an Arab accent, right? Correct. You don't have to say where you're from or anything. But like I don't know. But it's fine for me. You know, your take on all the different things is really interesting. And I find you entertaining and your stories or I'm not going to say
Starting point is 00:42:37 and interesting again because I use that word way too much, but it is all interesting to me, especially this kind of stuff too, mixed in with all the other stuff. I mean, I'm never like just here trying to create porn for people, you know? I love this kind of stuff, you know? I love all of it, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:53 I love like the fact that you were an accountant and then you're a truck driver that you've been married three times. I wanted to know why you were married three times. Like I love people's life stories, you know, and yours is super interesting. And especially, where you were and where you wound up in every area of your life. And I think you're a good guy.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I like that aspect of it too. But you like to eat your own come. And I love that. It makes that in there with everything else. This is a guy that helps the poor girl that's crying. Instead of getting the blowjup, he sets her up in a fucking house, you know, and you're the same guy getting fucked in the ass by a pro dom.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You know, I love all of that. That is you. And, you know, thank you so much for calling in. and sharing your story, Ron, because I think it's really interesting. Thank you. Okay, so you'll be driving your truck listening to your episode soon. I'll let you know when it's going to air.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Okay. Okay. Okay. Did you have fun? Okay. So, uh, did you have fun? I'll send you the photo of the initials on my chest.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Oh, that's good. Yes. Do it. I'd love to see that weirdo branding that you did on your body. Oh, my goodness. people are fucking nuts. Yeah, I'd love to see that. Send that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 So I'll put those pictures, your branding pictures up on Patreon. I hope you had fun. I know sometimes people like want to come here and just talk all dirty stuff, but I like all the other things too. So I just think it's a very well-rounded episode. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Thank you. All right. Thank you, Ron. Yeah. Thank you. Have a good one. You too. Bye.
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