Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 590 - Girl Talk: Sandra on Swinging, Lifestyle Resorts and Cruises and More

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

Sandra called in to talk all about swinging with her husband and how she became an adult travel promoter. When did her and her husband start swinging? Who brought it up first? And, how have they been so successful at it for so long? Tune in to hear all the details including how and why she brought up the idea having a FFM threesome early on in her relationship with her husband, the couple they wound up meeting and what exactly went down between her and the wife, how and why they started swinging while traveling, the rules they had when starting out and why they worked for them, how and why she started sleeping with guys in front of her husband, their first full time swap and what exactly went down, how and why she believes in non monogamy, how and why they only play with other together, how she really loves hooking up with women and seeing her husband enjoy many women as well, the all girl gangbang she took part in and what exactly went down, why she calls her husband the “anaconda” and why its hard for her to find guys she’s really into, how they work through the jealousy that occasionally comes up, how and why she lives a double life and keeps her involvement in the lifestyle private, how and why she started her company Seduction Travel, what people think goes down at lifestyle resorts/cruises and what really goes down, the most popular lifestyle resorts and what each them is known best for, which one is best for women who are into gangbangs, single folks etc, resorts around the world that she has been to and what goes down there, how and why she’s so good at helping people find the right lifestyle/cruise resort for them and how she guides them, the island take over in Croatia that she is running in June and whats going to go down there and a whole lot more. (PICS ON PATREON!) For more info on lifestyle resorts and cruises check out her website: https://seductiontravel.com  **To see anonymous pics of Sandra + most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What I do have, if you want to talk to me and say hi and talk to you, though, on the DL and not have me air the episode, a lot of people use that option because they have, like, a problem that they can't talk to anyone else about. If you want that, I offer that service. The link is in the description, or you could just email me about it. It's 45 minutes. I charge $100. I love talking people about their problems and analyzing them and helping people. I give unprofessional advice, but I think I'm good at it.

And people who call love the conversations with me. So if you fall in that category, go to the description, click on the link. It's there. Now, my Patreon, I mentioned it before. I have pictures of my guest today, Sandra, anonymous picks of her. She's a hot Brazilian woman who has been in the lifestyle for a long time for at least 20, years with her husband. She started when she was younger. She had a boyfriend that like brought another girl in. She had a threesome and she really likes girls, Sandra. Okay. So when she met her husband, she was like,

hey, like let's have like bring a girl in. And of course her husband was like, chiching. I hit the jackpot. So they started bringing girls in. And then he was like, wanted to see her with a guy. And then they did that. And, you know, then they got, like, hardcore into the lifestyle. They have been around the world. They travel everywhere. Like I said, she's Brazilian, but she lives in the States, but they travel all over. They literally, their honeymoon was in every European swinging vacation hot spot. Okay.

She talks about that. They went on, like, their honeymoon to all the lifestyle places in all the countries that they visited. She talks about a hot New Year's Eve. Cruz, she went on in Brazil. Now, the interesting thing about Sandra, besides her interesting backstory of her in the lifestyle and all the things her and her husband have done, she owns a travel agency that caters to people in the lifestyle. Company is called seduction travel. It's a website where you could go and you could get access to every lifestyle resort and cruise around. She also has on that website information of lifestyle websites where you could sign up to meet like-minded couples.

She knows the best. She has them on her website. She is that middle person. If you want information on which cruise to go and where to go, she has it all in one place. And then she's also available to talk to you and help guide you to the right thing for you and your budget and what you're looking for. She's been there, done that. Like I said, we talk about the hot cruise in Brazil. She's been to hedonism. She was like, oh, hedonism is good for people who like gangbangs. I'm like, oh, like, this bitch knows what's going down because she's been there, done that. She does give a lot of interesting stories about herself and her husband. She gives a little information about her husband at some point in there. She had a girl gangbangs. She's not into guy gangbings, but she's

into girl gangbings, and she loves it. She loves women. She talks about the difference in what she's looking for in men as far as women, what her husband likes, their rules and regulations. and how, you know, being open with each other and in their relationship has worked for them. And then she gives information at the end about all the cruises and resorts out there and what goes down and how much they cost and some general information, which is super interesting. But like I said, you could go to her website to get specific information and use her to book your next lifestyle trip. She was saying that, you know, it's crazy. out there now. So if you want to go away, okay, onto any of these swingers places, you better book now because people are booking in advance. Everyone's itching to get out. People are back

at it more so than before the C word. People are doing it. So if you want to go anywhere, you better go now and you go to her website because I think she's a great resource if you don't want to do all the investigation and all the Googling yourself. She has done it for you, not only on her website, she's been to all these places because she loves the lifestyle. They are like hooking up with people every weekend, okay? She talks about all of it on this episode. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Sandra. The link to her website deduction travel is in the description.

Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Sandra. Hi, Sandra. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you doing today? I'm pretty good. how about yourself? I'm good. Sandra, I don't know how you found me or I found you, but you are, I mean, listen, you have a whole

very interesting story and background, and we're going to get to that. But you also, because of your background and being in the lifestyle and getting into it and all the stuff that you did, you started your own travel, what is, would it be company? Like travel what? Yeah, it's a lifestyle travel company for. for, you know, for swingers, open-minded people. And it contents cruises and hotels it covers worldwide.

Right. So what people could do is like anyone looking to go on a cruise or go to resort, instead of having to do all the Googling and finding out the information and reading the reviews and, you know, hoping for the best, they could go to you. And you have all the information on all of them. And you could direct people to the ones that are right for them, right? That's like the service you provide? That is correct.

And then, you know, people can call me, text me, email. So basically I represent a lot of different companies. For example, Desire, LLV, Bliss Cruises, Spicy Match, which is basically my website is want to stop shopping instead of people go to different websites and see what's going on. Yeah, yeah, no, I love that. A lot of different companies. Yeah, because a lot of people don't want to do all that work.

So you have done it for them. you just didn't do the work. You have lived in the lifestyle. So like, let's go there. Like, let's get your whole backstory. I will link. We'll talk more about your travel business and some of the different cruises and stuff at the end. But like, and I'll link to everything. But let's talk about how you got into the lifestyle. Because it kind of started what, from what I remember, from like a boyfriend that you were with when you were younger who had like a bi-ex girlfriend or somebody. I don't know. There was some threesome that started at all, right? Yes. I started with a boyfriend. He introduced me to another one.

women. And I like very much. For some reason, we broke up a few years later when I met my actually husband right now. We were after two years into the relationship, we were watching porn. And it was a threesome with two girls and a guy. And I mentioned to him that I done that and I would like to try again. Okay. So that one. time though with that ex-boyfriend that was just a one-time deal but you enjoyed it no it wasn't one time it was like you know two or three times that we did it and then we end up you broke up okay right right yes we broke up okay so you tell your husband you're into it what does he say like does he feel like he hit the lottery uh absolutely well man doesn't like that's right

yeah totally is your wait let's just tell people though the real like you are Brazilian and I just always think because like I used to cocktail waitress in a place in New York City that had like a Brazilian night and I just always been like all these people do is just like fuck and drink and dance and have fun. They're like the happiest party people, sexy people on the planet. I mean, it is a part of your culture to be very open sexually, correct? Or am I? That is correct. Yes, that is correct. Yes. But also Brazil is a very religious country. So it just, of course, this day and age it's so many swingers in Brazil is it's a lot uh you meet people from all over the world especially the cruises and the resorts that are going everywhere yeah um europe also is

very open-minded yeah more so than here right uh yes oh absolutely absolutely more than here right so now is your husband brazilian or did you meet him when you were here he's america no yeah he's american okay so you tell him you want to have a threesome and like how do you go about Do you have a threesome with a girl, right? Yeah. So basically I started looking at Internet, and I found parties. So this particular party was in a bar on a hotel. And they closed the bar.

So we went and we met this couple. And prior to that, I mentioned to my husband, maybe she would stay in a hotel. You know, we don't want to drink and drive. even if it's a local. And so we stayed in a hotel. So we met this couple. The gentleman was a little older,

but the girl was so beautiful and hot. Oh, my God. Yeah. So we end up going to the room. And I end up having sex with her while my husband and a guy sitting on a sofa watching. Wow. So you had like an audience. Yes, very much so.

So and then start from, you know, from now on, it started that way. So we did a lot of parties. We went to a lot of different parties and did some there. And then we started traveling, you know, with, you know, different websites, different places that, you know, advertising travel. So I actually got a job one of the Swinker websites. I don't want to mention them. Okay.

But I worked for them for seven years. What did you do for them? I was the West Coast representative for them. And I did translate the site as well from English to Portuguese to attract a Brazilian audience as well. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yes. So I worked for them for seven years until we travel all over the world with them.

because between my husband and I, we speak five languages. Wow. So they use it as a lot, you know, to communicate with people. You know, we are very floundry. We, you know, we always talk to people. And so they uses us for us a lot. So we travel quite a bit all over the world until I decided that, you know, I had enough.

I want to be my own boss. Yeah, that's great. But you just went so quickly through your whole lifestyle. What people want to hear those details. I'm like, what you and yours have been done. Because you did more than just threesome's with women. Eventually, you wind up threesomes with men. I'm assuming if you're going to parties, you're having group sex.

I don't know. Tell me like those kinds of, like, you know, your experience with that kind of stuff. Well, for a year, it was three sons with a woman only. Now, let me ask you this, because a lot of women don't want to see their guy with a woman. Were you that woman or were you like, I want to be with her and I want to see. see you with her or was like did you have any kind of rules and regulations between the two of you well the rules is that you know basically i make the rules it's like i like the person and my husband he's the kind of guy is like okay you like that woman i like that woman too of course i

do yeah you know so for a year we did a three son with a woman and then one day he turned out to be he says i want to i want to watch you sucking a cock and i said Are you sure? He says yes. I said, okay. So we end up in a party, you know, it's, we like this couple. We start, you know, start talking and this and that. And we end up, you know, having sex with them.

And swapping. So now, I don't know that you answered my question. Your guy was allowed to, you allowed him to hook up with the girl too. Like would he have sex with the girl when you guys were having these threesomes? Or were you just, okay. So yeah, eventually he does, right? Okay, cool. Yes, he does. Mm-hmm.

So now this time, that first time, did you guys do a full swap? Like he fucked that guy's wife and you fucked her husband? Is that what happened? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. So it was pretty hot. So, and then, you know, and then sometimes, you know, you meet a couple and then

you like the girl, but you don't like the guy. So it's just sometimes a little awkward. But, you know, we always, we always manage it to, you know, to have, fun no matter what right now did you go to swingers clubs too and is that how like i mean what what went down when you went to these different or the resorts i mean when you said you traveled the world did you start traveling and always finding the lifestyle club or place like where you where you went yes actually our honeymoon was a lifestyle honeymoon oh you're kidding no where it was so so we went to south of france which is nice monaco and uh

And we went to Barcelona and we went to London. All those places I Google and I found clubs to go. So all these clubs, we hook up with other people. Wow. And that's how you celebrate. So now you. Yep. So how did it change your relationship?

Because this was, I mean, you're married. You brought it up to him one day. Like what was the difference that opening it up had? Like what kind of effect? well you know I believe that I believe in a non monogamous relationship so but everything that we do we do together we don't actually have a date separately we don't see other people and sides everything that we do we do together that's our room and so basically you know, we're not, we're not that kind of people that, you know.

No, what I asked is, but we like to enjoy it together. Yeah, but it has it, I mean, did it take your relationship from one level to a different level? Because, you know, you weren't even married yet. I'm assuming, I guess, because you said you went on lifestyle honeymoon together. Right. So that means you opened it up before you were married, right? Yes. Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely. And, you know, it's just, I feel really confident with him. and I felt really, you know, I can trust him, he can trust me, and we're not going to step out of our rules. So, of course, we always talk about, you know, our rules, you know, and the relationship. And, you know, in case, you know, we meet someone and the girl, you know, go talk to him and completely ignore me. He knows that this couple is not going to happen. Right. Because, you know, it has to be, everything has to be mutual, has to be, you know, everybody has to be in the same page.

We are at this point in our life right now that I look at him. He knows what I'm thinking. How long you've been together? Almost 20 years and Mary 16. Right. And you've been open all that time. So you're super successful. So I love having someone like you on the phone because like you said, a lot of people don't last. and I, of course, I have couples that it has gone awry. And I think people learn from those episodes, as much as they learn from episodes like this, where you are somebody that has done it and you've done it very successfully.

Like, what would you say is the difference since you have such a broad view of it and you've been doing it for so long and you're successful is like, what's the difference between the people that are successful and the people that aren't? Well, I guess we'll be respected with each other, communication, you know, every couple. should have their own rules, their own boundaries. And you need to speak all the time, you know, what's bothering you, was not bothering you. Would you like? Would you dislike?

So, you know, it's always, it's always, and it's always a, I don't say a challenge, but it's always our rules. Right. You know, being open and communicative. So we can respect each other. I remember, I think now I remember in your, in your bio that I read that eventually you did have a DP and that like blew your mind. Is there some sort of DP that goes on?

Is that what it was? Was that what it was? There was some sort of thing that happened towards the end. Well, I had, I had DP. Not very often. That's something that I really, really need to choose the person to do that. And my husband needs to feel really comfortable with a guy. Yeah, yeah.

Because he does he fool around with guys or no? No. No. He's not bisexual. Okay. No, he's not. And so it was, it was interested. But the next day, I feel kind of like awkward, but, you know, and I did it again, you know, a few months later or something.

You know, I like it. But it's not something that I do very often. Right. And you currently, I mean, you've been swinging this whole time and seeing couples. I mean, how do you meet other couples now? Is it strictly on these vacations and stuff? Or do you also use apps? I don't usually, well, I use the swinger sites. Yeah. Okay. I know. Swinger websites. And I'm actually, I belong to a few different sites to personal and business as well. So I promote both And clubs, you know, a few clubs, house parties, you know, that's how you meet people all the time.

The majority is it will be house parties and clubs. Yeah, someone brought that up the other day and said like it's just harder to like weed through everything on the apps. If you go to a party that you could or a club, you know, you could pick and choose. There's a lot of people in one place.

Exactly. Exactly. And I'm talking about, I'm talking about more local. And then when you travel, you know, you find, you know, if you go on a cruise, of course, the whole cruise is going to be full of swing. So the whole hotel is going to be full of swing.

So it's, you know, it's a lot to choose from. Oh, my God, that's so funny. So you've had your share. I mean, you've been hooking up with people through your whole marriage, always open. Never solo. Does your husband enjoy watching you? I'm assuming he does with other men?

and you, do you enjoy watching him? Yes, I do. Both ways. Yes. But he's the kind of person. He just let me enjoy the woman first. And then, and then, you know, he joins and he tells the other guy to join. But he always let me enjoy the woman first.

Oh, interesting. Okay. He likes to watch. I mean, that's probably the part of his foreplay. Yeah. Yes. Yes, he loves to watch, yes. And he loves to watch me with a man.

but I enjoyed the woman first and then I end up with a guy. Right, okay, but you also do enjoy watching him with the other woman. You never had, did you ever have any kind of jealousy in the beginning of that? Because I do find that I hear more often,

there's a lot of hot wives that my audience goes mental because there's a lot of hot wives that I speak to where they go and they have, you know, extra dick on the side, but they are just, they can't wrap their head around watching their guy with someone else. And they're okay with it, the guy is, but it's a lot of times they're not okay with it.

But I mean, have you ever had any issues with it or no? Well, of course. Once in Ohio, you get jealous, you know, you think that he's paying more attention to the, you know, to the girl than, you know, his own wife. Yeah. But, but, you know, that's why, you know, you don't make a scene, you know, after you get home, you talk about it and tell, you know,

what was wrong, what bothers you. And then, you know, you learn from that. Yeah, and I think that's an important point to me because I think some people think it's like black and white. Like, you know, if you're really open, like you guys are, that, you know, jealousy went out the window and you never have a jealous moment. But I've heard that before. Like just like, of course sometimes it will come up. Absolutely. You know, you have, you have to have a conversation and explain your feelings, explain where you like or would you dislike.

You know, otherwise it doesn't work because nobody can read your mind. Right. But were you, I mean, I'm assuming you wound up meeting a lot of people in the lifestyle and you're so heavy into it because it's also your job. It's your career. It's what you do. But does anybody, like, did you have a vanilla life and do those people know? No, absolutely not. We live a double life. All right. Okay. I could change your voice. I would say, I would say 99% of the swingers live a double life. Because, you know, it's okay to be lesbian, it's okay to be gay, but it's not okay. some different. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. But this is what I think is different about that sometimes, because some people, like, sometimes I'll get like an email, a very judgy email from someone like, oh, did, why didn't you ask that girl, like if she tells her kids about what she does? I'm like, do vanilla couples tell their kids about how they fuck? Nobody talks about their sex life with other people anyway. So that's why I think it doesn't matter if you don't or why you don't have to because it's like your sex life.

Like if you're gay and you're romantically involved with someone, that's a totally different thing that you want to tell people about, right? But it's, you know, most people don't talk about what they do in the bedroom with people. Absolutely, absolutely. And it's nobody's business and people will judge you no matter what. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So if you don't want to be judged, don't talk.

Exactly. Don't tell anyone. What do you tell people that you do for a living? Always exactly what I used to do, translations. Okay. Translations for travel agencies. Okay, hilarious. But I do know that, like, I mean, do you put your face to your, like, anywhere or anything?

I mean, I'm assuming people in the lifestyle all know you and they know that you own your business, but so you don't put your face to it, right? I would assume. No, for example, I advertise on TikTok, I advertise on Instagram. I don't put my face in there. Right, okay. I have two Facebook accounts, one personal one with the business. Right.

The one with the business, sometimes I put my face on it. But usually if it's a close group. Mm-hmm. So it's not because of me. It's because of my husband's business. Right. What he does for a living. Yes.

And what he does for living and he has two other partners and you don't want to, you know, ruin that business, you know. That business brings, you know, our bread and butter home. Right. Exactly. But so now you see your guy with people, you've been with other people, and it has only made you closer, I would assume, like that's what a lot of people say. Oh, yes, we made it closer.

We are just, basically, we're just partners, friends, lovers. We, you know, I don't, I don't see us any other way. Right. I've always felt like if you meet somebody that you're really secure in the fact of, like, you know emotionally, you guys are. tied together and you're in it with each other for good you know what does it matter the sex like who you fuck listen yeah and not not every people that we meet we have sex we have friends yeah we have friends for 15 years that is just friends on lifestyle that's just enjoying you know have lunch

or go to the party together yeah and we don't fuck them yeah you know not necessarily because you meet someone you're going to have sex with them that's absolutely not right and we have so many friends, they've been in a lifestyle for 15, 20 years, that they've been married, they've been happy. So it's not a rule that, you know, everybody needs to find the own rules, basically. Right. Yeah. And it's not a free-for-all is what you're saying. It's not like, because you're open-minded. It doesn't mean you're promiscuous fucking everybody. I think that sometimes people think stuff like that. Yeah, as I know. That's why, that's all the judgment comes from.

Yeah. You know, that people judge without even knowing exactly what's happening. And so I have a lot of people contact me, you know, over, you know, the websites and ask me questions. And so basically I ask them for the phone number so I can explain over the phone because it's impossible to explain in writing. And what are your biggest questions that you get from people? This is everybody's going to have sex with everybody.

Really? Yep. Yes. Right. That's like the fantasy they have in their hat. Exactly. Exactly. And so what is the truth of what's going down at these resorts and these cruises? What would you say? Well, it's going to happen whatever you want to happen. You know, we just returned for a cruise that was from Rio de Janeiro to Buenos Aires for New Year's Eve. Okay. Amazing cruise. Beautiful. beautiful. However, we met a lot of Brazilians there. We met people from United States. We met people from Central and South America. We met people that just want to watch. You know, and it says, oh, I just want to go to play wrong and fuck my own wife or fuck my husband. I just want to watch. And it's for everyone. But it depends where your comfort level is. Right. So if you want to meet other people and just watch them, it's fine. If you want to participate, it's fine. So it depends what your rules are. It depends what you like, what it is like. Right. But what I've heard and what I think is similar across the board is that people in the lifestyle are very open-minded. So they're okay if you just want to watch, if you want to remain clothes, right? It's not like anyone pushes anybody to do anything. Oh, absolutely not. The people that pushes doesn't last in a lifestyle because, you know, that's disrespect. Right.

So you want to do whatever is comfortable for you, whatever is comfortable for your partner, and that's when you talk about it, what you like, what you dislike. How many people were on that New Year's Eve cruise? It's 350 cabins, so 700 people. Wow. Did you have a lot? Did you wind up having a lot of sex? Yeah, actually we did. We met so many cool people. Oh my God, so many cool. You know, the theme nights is pretty fun.

But wait, a question to you, because you've been in the lifestyle for so long. Yeah. Have you seen the age range of people change? Like, do you see more young people in the lifestyle than you used to back in the day? Or is it similar? No, I used to. I've seen more younger people now. Right.

Especially in the house parties. Mm-hmm. I've been seeing more younger people. Yeah, that's what, because I mean, I get, I've been doing my show for about seven years, and I feel like I get so many more younger people calling about being in the lifestyle and going to clubs. Yes. And I used to, you know, just in the past couple of years. Yes, I would say, I would say that.

You know, I noticed, well, not the past couple of years because of COVID, but a little bit before COVID. Yeah, right, right, exactly. I used to see that. Yes. And it's continuous. So, which is great. you know so people you know already you know being open with their sexual life and then what do what do they want to do what do they want to accomplish yeah totally yes i'm i'm happy for them

what are some of the best resorts that you've been to and tell me what goes down there or your experience well it's not that many resorts that's a lifestyle uh we have uh desire resorts Cancun and those that they have two resorts and they both are resorts for couples only okay they have another resort called Temptation Temptation allowed singles so even if a vanilla people they allow singles because it's only topless and they don't have any playroom in there it's more like a party hotel that people want to toppler but a lot of swingers a lot of couples go there because they love to have fun and find young people also it's a lot of younger crowd oh interesting

yes so temptation actually just opened a couple of resorts in punta cana dominica republic there are those two resorts there together one is for singles and the other is for couples only I have not visited this one yet but from the picture seems amazing also I know Hido Hidon needs me to

Yeah, hedonism in Jamaica. Mm-hmm. That allowed singles. If you into gangbang, that's a great hotel to go, a great resort to go. What is the name of it? Because Zumpia, I have a lot of gangbang girls on my show. Hedonism. Heedonism.

Oh, really? Yes. Interesting. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of couples go, but they allow singles. Mm-hmm. And, you know, some girls like, you know, gangbanks.

What about you, Sandra, I have to ask? Not my cup of tea. No, I'll like, I'll take a gang bang with a bunch of girls, but not guys. Okay, well, that's still a gang bang, right? What is it called? Exactly. Yeah. Did you ever do a girl gangbang yourself?

I have, actually, a few years ago. I did a birthday party in one of the, you know, the clubs over here. And so a bunch of girls just grabbed me and we went to the playroom and we just took a bunch of pictures and we had fun. How many girls? Let me see if I remember.

I remember two, four. I believe it was five girls in me. It was like six of us. Wow. And so it was just all of you girls and you all like hooked up and you were taking pictures? Is that what you said? Well, no.

The husband's was take pictures. Yes. So, you know, of course, with everybody agree, that was okay to take pictures. Yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, so, okay, so the guys watched and all the girls hooked up. Yeah, the guys watched all the girls, but, you know, the girls were like, you know, I don't know,

45 minutes I can never remember. Has been so long ago. And then, you know, the guys joined us. Right. Oh, okay. That was probably fun for you. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Have a great, great visual.

right now of all the girl the girl gangbing that's so funny so but no so you're not into the guy thing i think it's very specific listen it's that's what i said you know everybody likes you know what they like yeah yeah yeah do you like two guys do you prefer you and another woman like what's your favorite way to hook up well my favorite will be three son with the women right right that's my favorite right or four son with the one will be three women in my husband oh have you done that a lot You're lucky fucking husbands. Yes, he is. If his partners only knew.

I would invite him every day about that. If his partner's only knew, they'd be jealous. No, he's, no, he's, it's, it's fun. It's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all the girls that, you know, that I like. Yeah. And then, of course, of course he likes as well. So, so you guys have the same taste in women is what you're saying? Um, no, sometimes he has a taste of woman that I don't,

quite agree, but I'll let it know. Right. Well, what do you like and what, like, what do you not like? Like, what kind of women do you like? What's your taste? Oh, it's very hard. It's very hard to describe. Right.

It's like, you know, it's a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a chemistry. You know, if somebody's friendly, you know, sometimes you meet a girl that she's very snob and that's not going to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Uh-huh.

So it's just, it's just a vibe. It's just, you know, about chemistry. If they're friendly, they're nice, you know, what are they into? You know, sometimes you meet a girl. We just start kissing right away. That was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you feel the same way when it comes to men?

Not really. I'm more particular with a man. Really? Okay. Tell me, like what is, how, what are you particular about with the guides? Well, it's also, you know, chemistry. It's also our vibe. but it's also, you know, if you look at the person, you know, you feel little tingles and

see if you want to go there or not. But do you require like a big dick? You don't care? Like, I mean, is the thing is, yeah. The thing is my husband has his biggest dick, which is his nickname. I'm glad I asked questions because I don't think you would have ever brought that in that up. His nickname, his nickname him Anaconda. No.

Yes. So it's very hard for me to find a guy that has the same size of dick. Wow. So he's long and wide. He's long and girth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And thick, right? Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. So no one can. You have the top of the mountain when it comes to that. You know, I'm lucky with that. So it's very hard for me to find a guy that, you know, sometimes. I have sex with a guy, I don't even feel anything because it are so little. It's like, what am I doing here?

Well, I think that's hard because you get used to that, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Oh, no wonder why you can't do double penetration. How do you get to use anaconda? Well, the double penetration is always at the bottom. He is. And there will be a guy with a little dick.

In your ass? Yes, that would be the double penetration. Oh, my God. How excited do you see the girl? girls when they're like banging your husband because probably a lot of women haven't been with the Anaconda. Oh my God. It's sometimes it's embarrassing because sometimes the girl says to him, oh my God, it's so big,

so big next to the husband or the boyfriend. And it's embarrassing. I feel sorry for the guy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, but I'm here to tell you, Sandra, I hear a lot of guys on my show. Somehow they have this weird fantasy where they want. A lot of guys.

want their wives to be with other guys, they want a guy to be bigger than them. Like, it's the thing that you would never as a woman think a guy isn't two. They are. So it's weird, you know. So maybe some of them don't mind that he's bigger than them. And it's a turn on. Well, I hope so because, you know, sometimes I feel embarrassed for them for them. Because, you know, the way they talk.

Yeah. You know, it's like expressing like, oh, my God, you're so big next to the husband, a boyfriend. You know. Yeah. I feel like embarrassed for the guy. I'm sorry. Yeah. But it's nothing I can do.

You know, it is what it is. Right. And it's yours. You're, you know, you don't go home to, oh my God, I'm never seeing that again. Do you guys have regulars? Like, you know, people that you regularly, like, hook up with, you know, anyone like a couple? Yeah, a few. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, we have few. But, you know, I always like to try fresh meat. So you like the variety? Of course. You know, I like, it's kind of like eating new foods. You know, you never try before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to taste it to see if you like it or not.

So you like to try different things. I mean, I'm assuming you've had every kind of, you know, lover. Not just Presidents, Americans, French, Italian. Or the above. Yeah, yeah. Any kind of like stereotypes you could give me or it's just person based or do you find You know, it's just like, you know, from person to person. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just about chemistry. It's not about where they come from. Right. Sometimes you don't even speak in the same language, but, you know, sexy sex is sex. Right, right. You don't even have to communicate. But you do speak five language between you guys. So you could really service people on your website.

I mean, do you have people from all over the world that come to you for help? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. And also, you know, always meeting new people. know, that's the great about things, you know, social media because, you know, always advertising, always, you know, talk about and, you know, so you talk about, you know, talk about this with someone new and this person talking with somebody else, you know, it's always, you know, a good referral as well.

Right. Do you typically find that people come to you just one time and then you give them all the information, you don't see them again? Or do typically people come to you get the information for one trip and then the next time they want to go away, the next year they come to you again? Yes, they do. I have a repeat. It's because of the, you know, the whatever, what I provide to them because, you know, they can call me any time. Most of, most of when you book a trip, it's just did everything online. Yeah. So if you have any issues or something, you don't talk to anyone. Yeah. You're fine. And if you try to talk, it's forever. Yeah. It's kind of like doing the airlines right now. Yeah. So, so that's, you know, that's, you know, that's my personal touch. Right. Do you have a favorite resort or cruise? Well, people ask me that question a lot.

But I will tell people, well, first of all, you need to know when are you available to book? When can you travel? Second of all, you're looking for cruise or you're looking for a resort? Third, what's your budget? Right. You know, so all those three things come in place because sometimes people ask, no. I want to go next year to a cruise. I said, well, you have to let me know

when are you available. But, you know, it depends. You know, some crews are, we have some cruise in most every month, but you need to see if you're available those days. Yeah. You know, people schedule changes all the time. Right. And depending on what time of the year it is

and what season it is, wherever that cruise is and might be available or not. I mean, you can't travel to Greece in, you know, February, but you're going to go there in the summer. So really you have to get all that information first to guide. But I mean, what about for you? Do you have a favorite that you've been to that you love? It's like if you were to go tomorrow, you'd be like, that's where I'm fucking going.

I would say Greek islands. The Greek islands. The Greek islands. Yeah. Croatia is beautiful. We actually doing an island takeover in Croatia. Oh, when? The end of June.

Okay. The island is going to be for five days. Okay. So basically you fly to split in Croatia. Mm-hmm. And then you take like a ferry to go to the islands. The 600 people on this island take over in Croatia. Wow.

The whole island. The whole island. Six hundred people. Swingers, lifestyle people. Yep. The majority of people, it's this group from Europe. put it together. The majority of people that go is Europeans.

Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. Mostly Europeans? Yes. The majority is Europeans, yes. Right. Americans could go, but it's just that it's the majority. No, everybody can go.

Anyone, right? Everybody, yeah, everybody can go. You just have to book and pay for. Yeah. It's stuff like that expensive. Do you have a list of like, like, all your, do you have ones that are lower end? I'm assuming you do. Like you said, you have to ask the budget.

I mean, the ones that are like less, expensive and the highest end ones? Like, what are the most expensive ones? The most expensive ones will be a cruise. It depends. You know, some crews, it depends on the type of cabin you booking as well. Some crews, like, for example, a suite, like I call owner's suite, it can cost between $30,000 to $45,000 for a week.

Right. Or it can cost $15,000 if you go interior cabin. Right. So it really depends on the destination, depends on type of cruise, depends on type of cabin you're looking for, depends on budget. The majority of people, you know, book a cruise area and a half-minute advance because most of these places, most of the cruises that advertise, you can make payments because nobody can drop, you know, $10,000 at once. Right. So the majority, you know, they have payments that you can make it, you know, three, four, five, six. six payments. It really depends of the

trip as well. So how much is that hotel or that island takeover and Croatia cost for a couple to go to? So I would say it's $1,500

for five days. And it's include a brunch and dinner. And lodging? Yes. That's cheap. Yeah, it's not expensive.

Now, this one is not expensive at all. Yeah, that's really cheap. I guess because you're glamping or whatever, but you're on a beautiful island. I mean, come on. Yes. So this one is actually, this one is available right now.

We have like a little bit more expensive, which is $3,600. So it really depends, you know, what you're looking for, where your budget is. But this is for only five days take over. Yeah, that's amazing, though. So I guess you have like stuff

for everyone's budget. Listen, I get a lot of people listening to my show that are in The Lifestyle or just starting out that would love this information or need to know because I'm like a great Googler. Like I do, I love doing stuff like that, but most people are not psychotic like I am. They don't want to cross-reference, read review. Like I actually like that kind of psychotic stuff, but I'm a weirdo. Most people don't want to do that kind of deep dive. They don't have the time.

They're not interested. And sometimes you can't believe stuff. you know, so it's much better to get that kind of information from somebody like you that really has been there, done it. You're in the lifestyle. You've been in it for a long time. You've been all over the world. You're well traveled and you've been to all these places and you could really give people valuable information. Absolutely.

It takes a long time to, you know, to start looking for something. Yeah. And my website is just right there, right on a palm in your hands. Right. And if somebody wants more information to get specific and that's where they go. I mean, is it something where you custom make stuff and then book it for them or they just book it through your website and they can call you with questions? Well, they can book through my website or I can book it to them.

Just have to let me know which trip they are looking for. Yeah, but you do help people and guide people to the places that they want and then they just go through your website, right? That's like really the service. That's what I think is the most valuable thing. I mean, you have it. Absolutely. First thing is that you have it all in one place, all the cruises, all the stuff that's going down all over the world.

And then they have access to you pointing to the right one for them so they don't have to go, even on your website through all the stuff that's available, right? Yes, absolutely. And also, you know, for example, if you want to book a resort, some resorts you can book any time. So you just have to let me know what dates you like and I need to see what's available. Yeah. You know, what type of rooms are available. If they are available, I can suggest maybe some other dates. So, and some of, some of, a lot of the resources, you know, you can book anytime also.

So I have resources you can book any time. And also I have that's a fix. Clues the dates and resorts as well, takeovers. I need to tell you, your website is called seduction travel. I'll say it in the beginning so people know what the fuck we're talking about. I don't know that we said it in the beginning or not. Yeah, seductiontravel.com. If people want to see what's going on, up to 2024, in the 2012, they can just click all trips.

We have like three pages with several different cruises and hotel takeovers worldwide. Now, I know that you said you were also on some lifestyle websites and stuff, and you promote those as well. Are there any that you could recommend? Cassidy is a great website. Cassidy, uh-huh. Yes. Crescent's a great website. If you wanted to a European website called SpicyMatch.com also.

It's also on my website under affiliates. Yeah. So I have that also. And some of those they have like a month for free. If you log in, they can give like a month for free. Right. So that right. So that kind of information is also on your website.

So it's not just that. Yes. They also have. Because I get a lot of times emails from people like, where do I go to me? And I'm like, listen to my show. I'm like the host. I don't have the, you know, my people talk and give you that information. You got to write it down when they say it.

I'll put all the links, though. Of course. For your website so people could go there. But, I mean, you're like the professional. You know, let's end with you telling me like, I don't know, give me like the hottest scenario. You've been to add this for a long time. You had that lady gang bang.

And maybe that was your hottest scenario. But could you go through like the hottest story if you have one or two that, you know, give my listeners like. good fucking story. After 15 years, it becomes a blur. I know. They're all good, right? They're all good. They're all different. They all, you know, you're meeting people. Sometimes you like it. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you expect more that, you know, that whatever happened. But they're all good. They're all fun. You know, we meet people all the time. That's the part that I love the most, just meeting new people.

Right. You like the social aspect of it. I do. I love the social aspect. We do this almost every weekend. You do? Yeah. Almost every weekend. We go to parties. We meet friends. And if you're not traveling, I do something local. I mean, how much, what fucking happened to your business and the lifestyle community and your guys' sex life when COVID hit? Well, we actually didn't have much problem. Well, business, yes. Yes.

But personal life, no, because we always have a lot of friends around. Right. Oh, okay. So you continue to see each other and friends and stuff like at houses and stuff like that, right? Because you didn't need to go to a club. No, no, because all the clubs were shut down. Right. That's what I mean.

So how about your business, like seduction travel? Well, my business was shut down as well. Right. So now I'm starting recuperating everything. So it's not easy. Yeah, yeah, but you're back up and running. Well, yes, I'm back up and running. And people are going, do you find that the traffic of people traveling and getting back out there is the same like pre-pandemic now, by now?

No, now it's war because people were. Really? Yes, people were so, you know, at home all the time that people just want to get out. Like, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give an example. you want to book a desire resource right now. Yeah. People are booking six to eight months in advance because it's getting sold out really quick. Wow.

So it's crazy. So it's busier than ever. That's good. Yes. Yeah. It is easier than ever. Yeah. So you'll make up for lost time.

Well, listen, everybody should go check out your website, Seduction Travel. I think that what you offer is really great and so many people could benefit from it. I appreciate that. Yeah. I appreciate that. Also, you know, we are the same name on Instagram. same name on Cassidy, same name on TikTok, Sandra and Mark Seduction Travel Facebook.

So, you know, so it will be easier to find. Yeah, perfect. So I will give out your links in the description so that people could come find you if they want to, you know, go on a cruise, get information from you as well as, like what I think is great as you also offer, those websites where people could go and just, you know, Swinger websites where they could start.

Absolutely. Sign up. Yeah, because people like always are looking for that too. So you're a one-stop shop. I suggest people go there. Thank you for calling in. I like people that are selling something that they have tried themselves, you know? I think it's great that you have been in the lifestyle.

You're very positive. You love it. You've been doing it for long enough that you're really like a professional. And that's like the best person to go to for help as far as I'm concerned. I really appreciate that. At least I won't sell anything that I haven't tried. Right. And you never know, you might wind up on a cruise with the Anaconda.

So go. Here we go. People are going to be hitting you up for your husband. But I have to go through me first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got to be, okay, you better have a good vibe for Sandra. She's the one that makes the rules. There we go.

All right, that's awesome. All right, thank you so much, Sandra, for calling. Oh, I really appreciate, Kathy. On my Facebook, I hope you could do this. Not on my Facebook. On my Patreon, I give anonymous picks of people. That's what I show on. Just to my Patreon members, it's private.

It's over there. So if you could send me like some anonymous picks, of course, nothing X-rated, just like sexy picks or whatever. Like, you know, that I could post over there. No face, no nothing. That's cool. I'll change your voice a little bit so nobody know who you are, but you're Sandra from Seduction travels.

Like all that will remain the same. but I'll slightly change your voice so that none of your vanilla friends will find out who you are. That's okay. I barely have any vanilla friends anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, it's hilarious. All right. Thank you so much.

I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great day. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sandra. You too.

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