Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 607 - Casey had a Couple Bukkake Gangbangs

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

Casey recently had a couple bukkake gangbangs and she called in talk all about them. Where did they take place? How many guys took part in them? And, what about it did she love the most? Tune in to hear all the details including how the whole idea of the bukkake gangbang came about, the adult theater where it all went down and how it was all laid out, how and why she digs seedy places and anonymous sex, how they prepared for the gangbangs and the “essentials” they brought with them, how and why they advertised one of the bukkake gangbangs, the first one they had, exactly what went down and how many guys participated, how she got the “party” the rules she announced to everyone, how and why her husband was in charge of picking the guys who were allowed to play, how and why she loves the bukkake part so much, how they got the idea to do another one and film it, how and why for that event she was in charge of picking the guys, the demographics of the men and couples that showed up, how and why she never watched porn or masturbated prior to getting Into the lifestyle, why she didn’t enjoy sex when she was younger and how that all changed, how and why she now enjoys masturbating for her Onlyfans, the next adult bookstore theater event they are putting together and how you can get the details, why the sex she has with her husband is so different and how it took a little time for her to figure out how to enjoy it plus a whole lot more. All her stuff here: https://caseydonatello.com  **To see pics of CASEY plus see anonymous pics of most of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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anonymous, I changed the voices for my confessions too and I air them all in my Patreon. The confessions number to call is 347, 4203.45. 579. That's 347.4-2-0-3579. You could call that number 24-7. I don't answer it. Don't text me there. Like I said, those are aired on my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The links to everything and all the information I just gave you is in the description. Now, today I have on Casey. Casey has been on my show many times before. She's always good for a hot story. She is super hardcore. We just heard from her husband. Jason. He was the guy that was a single guy in the lifestyle. They were both single people in the lifestyle before they met each other. They couldn't have been, they're perfectly well-suited. You heard his whole backstory in his last episode. Casey called in before and gave her backstory. What she called in today to talk about was the Bukaki Gang Bang birthday party she had for herself,

or birthday present she set up for herself. Because her husband, her husband, because her husband, and in his episode touched upon it, I'm like, oh my God, I have to have her come on and give all the details. And when she came on, she was like, yeah, he left out a lot. And so she started with why they even wound up at an adult theater. This wasn't the time that they filmed like the Gupukukaki Gangbang thing was not the first time. They went another time before that. They were really looking to up their game. They've kind of been there, done that.

So they decided to go to an adult theater. They didn't know what to expect. They did a little research, found a place, and went the first night, just to have. have fun and get like the lay of the land and she talks about that night before she gets into the whole bucoccaque gangbanks she talks about that first night that she uh went and what went down and it was very hardcore she explains exactly what was going on in that theater she kind of dig seedy places and fucking strangers so it was all good for her and she's a very much an exhibitionist so she found a place where there was a spotlight and she got it on and did tons of guys i think it was like three hours 30 guys

she says. You got to listen. She gets very specific about what went down. You know, she loves to come. She did a whole episode for me of why she loves, she has a cum fetish. She could go listen to that, but she talks about all the coming that was done on her on this one. It's very hardcore.

And then after that night, she did set up her whole 41st birthday Bukaki Gangbing that they filmed. Her husband, I said, talked about that a little bit on his episode. She explained even more about what went down on this one.

You know, there's a lot of couples that showed up to watch her. She put a shout out about what was going down. A lot of people showed up. She taped it. She does all of this stuff because she loves having sex. She never made a dime off of this. She was always living in the lifestyle, doing all this stuff for nothing. And she just kind of turned everything into like an only fan's account.

So she has all that set up and she does talk about it. But what's great about her is she's like the real deal. She loves doing this shit because she just love. loves having sex more so than anyone but what she does reveal on this episode that i was very shocked and you're going to be shocked about is that she uh had never watched porn in her life even though now she's making porn and selling it you know that bucaki is something that she's putting together to sell she also had never masturbated until like a year before we get into that whole story because that was like you know super interesting to me so we talk a little bit about casey before she became

Casey. And what's interesting is she was very much like on the opposite end of the spectrum. She lives in those worlds. You know, she's hardcore. She's either one way or the fucking complete opposite. So we hear a little bit about that towards the end. And then we talk about what she's going to do next. So you're going to want to go to her website, Caseyidonatelow.com, to stay in the know because she will be having another Bukkah. gang bang experience this time at a bookstore theater kind of like adult amusement park kind of a place where there's all kinds of things going on that's what's coming up next like I said go to her website to get in the know the link is in the description but now we're going to get into the details

I'm going to be right back on with Casey hi Casey welcome back one of my regulars hello again hello Oh, listen, I, you've been on my show before. Now, people don't know about Casey, the infamous Casey. They need to go listen to your other podcast episodes because you give your whole backster and everything. But the reason why I'm having you back on is because I recently had your husband on. And what was so interesting about his story is he was a single guy navigating the lifestyle way before he met you. And then you guys were two single people that wound up meeting in the lifestyle, which was a very interesting story. from his perspective, you know, because I don't think that it's very common that a single guy is that

successful in the lifestyle, whatever. So if people want to go here, his episode, they could go here, but what he left off on and what I didn't know about was that for your birthday or something, like you had some sort of big, bucoccaque gang bang thing that you had. And, you know, he touched a little bit upon it. It was interesting. He talked about how you set everything up with the braces. And all that stuff, but I'm like, I got to get Casey on to tell the whole story with all her details and everything. And then I'm sure you have 10 more stories to share. But, you know, what was it? Is it right to call it a Bukaki gang bang or I don't know, what's the right term?

Yeah. And he actually, he left out a lot of information because that was the second time that we had gone there. So it all started. We have been, you know, once you do stuff in the lifestyle, stuff gets boring. So even though we're used to playing at multiple guys, it starts to get very routine and boring sometimes. Not just for me, but also for him watching, you know, you get used to stuff and you want to see more and more and bigger and better. So he had been talking about going to an adult theater and I have never been to one either. And it's funny because when we first met, he'd be like, oh, you've done everything.

There's nothing new. We're going to get to do together, you know. And I said to him, listen, I said, there's always something new. just have to be adventurous and find stuff. But, you know, there's always something crazy to try it together. Yeah, why don't you guys just try missionary sacks? That would be fucked up for you guys. You know, that would be like the hottest thing you could do because it's so not normal.

So I've been to a bunch of clubs, you know, in the past and stuff, but I've never been to an adult theater and neither is he. So we went online and we found a couple that are all within like a few hours from us. nothing is close to us, of course. So we just started doing some research and seeing what they're like, where they're located, the reviews on them. We spoke to people, you know, on different sites and forums because we like to do research, especially at him.

He always likes to know what we're getting into. So essentially, it is a movie theater. Oh, really? Is that how it's set up? It's literally a movie theater that plays porn movies and then you have sex in the movie theater. So it's it like blows my mind that that actually exists. Yeah, but let me ask you this. How is it laid out?

Is it kind of like a speakeasy where you walk in and there is an adult bookstore first and then you walk through a door and in the back is a movie theater? Or is it a movie theater? You walk in, there's popcorn. There's popcorn and shit. And then you walk in and there's a movie theater. Yeah, literally you walk in. There's a guy like, you know. a cashier there's candy and sodas and stuff and then you walk in the main door and it's just

the theater there's nothing else wow and now in my head i thought there was going to be like other sections but it's literally a movie theater it's two floors so the top floor is couples only the bottom floor is single guys and everybody is allowed there are the seats like a regular movie theater or are they like couches nope like old school not like the fancy ones that you have nowadays like old original just you know padded seats right so they obviously went in these people obviously go in and buy old dilapidated like you know movie theaters that nobody would ever go to unless they're horny and they want to fucking them because no one you know what I mean like that's it must be like an abandoned movie theater that they take over and they don't call it an adult

movie theater they call it an adult bookstore I think it's just um I think it's an adult theater. Some of them have bookstores. This one didn't, though. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Interesting. What about it was appealing or different for you? Was it about being in like this kind of seedy place with other people? What was it? I do have a soft spot for seedy places. That's not for some reason. I love, you know, like I love anonymous. But what really, what really got us into this is it's just such a nightmare sometimes going on like. dating sites and looking for guys and talking to them and vetting them and the bullshit and the flakiness so my husband was just fed off at one point he goes you know what why don't we just go somewhere public we don't have to find the guys the guys will just be there i'll have my anonymous sex he has to

talk you know via text to less people we thought it would just be easy and it would be this cool adventure to go on right so you've been to swingers clubs before so that wasn't new so this was like okay what do you do what does the couple do that's have been a million times to the swingers what's another place that kind of is like that where there's just a lot of people that you could fuck randomly and you don't have to do all that work. Yeah, and so through the forums, we found out that,

because I was like, okay, where are you having sex in a movie theater? And people are literally, you have sex in the seats or someone told us bring like a comforter, put the comforter on the floor, and then you have sex on the floor. So we're like, oh, that's good to know.

So we brought a comforter, you know, because I'm allergic to latex, we always bring our own condoms. We bring lube towels, like sanitizer. We always have like a duffel bag of essentials that we bring with us. And we had gone, we got a hotel room up there because it was like a two hour drive from us. So we posted on some of the platforms were on that we would be there and we were looking, you know, to meet guys and stuff. So there was a lot of chatter that we would be there.

And, you know, you try to drum up, make sure there's going to be people there. and it's going to be a good night. So we went up there and we stopped by the theater at, I think it was like three in the afternoon because it's open during the day. And we just went in his sweatpants and like hoodies just to scope it out, even though we weren't going till seven o'clock that night. We just wanted to get like a visual of the layout, kind of do some like recon, and, you know, just like know what we were getting into. So we walked around for maybe, you know, five or ten minutes and immediately as soon as we walked in like guys just start following you and there's only a handful because it was in the middle of the day right and because there's probably not a lot of

women that go there don't you think no right so but it's funny because like they come out of nowhere like it looks like no one's in the theater and then they hear you and they start like tracking like where you're walking and stuff so it's pretty funny so we once we saw like what was happening we go okay we understand we went to the hotel you know waited a few hours and we went back at seven and when we went back at seven there was definitely a lot more people and we walked into the like the main bottom part where everybody was and you know people knew we would be there at seven because that's what we posted so the minute we walk in like all eyes are on us and like you just feel the energy and the tension and like you know people are just waiting to like swarm you and we went

there was like one section where they took out a row of seats so there was like some space on the floor and we had decided that's where we were going to put the comforter down and there's also like a little kind of like a spotlight that was shining in that one section so we go in we put a blanket down and it was just it was like a little eerie for a few minutes because you you know everybody is just waiting for you to do something. Yeah. You know, like you're aware of what's happening. And Jason, my husband Jason was like, let's just sit down and wait a few minutes.

And I looked at him. I was like, no, I think we need to do something like immediately or because I'm much better spontaneous and in the moment. I don't like waiting and getting anxious and stuff. I like to just rip the bandaid off. So I said to him, listen, if you don't mind, can I just pick somebody? and like get this started. And he goes, you saw somebody like.

And I said, actually there was a really hot guy when we first walked in. I think like, I'll just go grab him. And what's hot to you? Explain that guy. Like, what's hot to you? What made that guy hot? I don't know. Just explain your type.

He looked pretty young, like attractive face. You could tell he had a really nice body even like through his clothes. Mm-hmm. And my husband said, okay. Okay. I just walked up to him. And I said, hey, how are you doing? Would you like to play?

And he said, sure. So he came over to the blanket that we had and people immediately started like forming a circle around us. And we kind of, you always want to set expectations when you're in a public setting and kind of like rules and guidelines for people. So it doesn't get too out of hand. So I just made an announcement. Like between the two of us, we said a few things. I said, you know, I said, we're here. Like I'll blow guys.

I'll fuck them. You can come on me. but you know you need to ask permission no anal you have to use my condoms uh stuff like that and that's so interesting like you like you're you have this sort of speech and and everyone sitting there listening no one is there an actual movie being played at this time yes oh that's funny is it porn it's porn just like some porn movie in the background okay go on yep so there's just like a quick you know you know these are my rules and then I started making out with the guy we started I blew him we started having

sex and then the rule is that generally if you want to touch me you have to ask my husband's permission because I'm busy right you're not going to interrupt me to ask so you go through the husband so people are very respectful you know majority of the time they are happy that there's a girl there that wants to play with them so they're not going to get out of line the other guys will get upset you know and it's really funny the other guys will stick up for you if something happens you know because everybody wants to create this fun environment where everybody's going to have fun so if there's one asshole like i don't even have to say something because another guy will usually step in for me my husband's there yeah it's a really interesting dynamic that you find yeah yeah that is

interesting the pack mentality works for you as against instead of against you Yeah, and you know, most of the time we've talked about this, how single guys get like shit on all the time and people are mean to them. So we're a super friendly couple and we're there for single guys. So they want to make sure that I'm comfortable so that I don't leave. So it's it's a very pleasant atmosphere as far as I'm concerned. Other people might not like it, but it works for me. So I start playing with this one guy and then my husband is just deciding, you know, who I'm going to blow, he's handing out condoms. and then in the meantime, like all of a sudden, I'll just feel like this warm gush on me

and somebody from the crowd that wasn't even touching me just walks up and they come on me and they leave. Oh my God. I was really amazed. And you love that. Yeah, because this was the first experience I've had where people that weren't touching me were coming on me. That was a new sensation for me.

Like I couldn't believe how many people were getting hard and coming just by watching me with other people because these are, you know, huge voyeurs that are there. So that was a really. Oh, right. Right. They're not even a gang. Right. Because normally you're doing gang bangs and the guys are involved.

Yeah. So now I'm having a gang bang, but there's bystanders that are just coming on me. And, you know, I can't really see what's happening because I'm on all fours and I'm busy. But you'll hear other guys behind me saying like, oh, someone's ready or, you know, or sometimes they didn't say anything. and all of a sudden I just feel this splash on me somewhere. And it's really, like, we know that I love come from the other episodes.

And my husband asked me the other day, he's like, what exactly, like, why do you enjoy the feeling so much? And I said, I don't know, like, everybody's load feels so different. They're different, like, yeah, some people's are, like, warmer than others. Some are really thick, some are loose. Like, it just is an interesting sensation to me. And it's also, you know, it's proof that somebody is having a good time and they're super turned on, you know? Yeah. If somebody doesn't come, then I feel cheated.

And the fact that they're coming and I'm not even touching them was like the biggest compliment in the world to me. Like that was so flattering to me. And, you know, I'm just getting hit with loads. It's like in my hair. It's in my face. You know, it's just everywhere. And I don't know what's going on. And it started really organized.

My husband is doing a very good job, you know, controlling the crowd. And then little by little, he got so turned on. Yeah, we just about to ask. He kind of forgot that he was like in charge of the crowd. Yeah. And all of a sudden, I just got swarmed by so many people that I couldn't even see my husband anymore. And I just felt I put my hand on the floor and was feeling through people's legs. And then I felt his specific shoe that I knew he was.

wearing. And I was like, okay, he's still here somewhere, you know. But he was just so excited about it that he was just letting people do whatever the fuck they wanted. He was like, oh my God, I just, I didn't want to say no to anybody. It was just so hot, you know? And he really loves seeing me please guys. Like that's, that's his fetish. He gets so turned on when a guy tells him, your wife is hot, or she's so good at sucking cock or like I had the best time with her. So he loves to show guys a good time. But it got so out of control, so fast. I didn't know what was going on or who was where.

And because of the way the lighting is, you know, you're in a dark theater except for that spotlight. Yeah. I couldn't really see if I turned around. I couldn't really see anybody. It was just like all these shadowy figures. And it was just so much fun. And he actually, there was a dead time, you know, because not all guys, it's not always consistent, you know, There might be like a few minutes where no one's ready to fuck you or no one's ready to come.

And at one point, we were a few hours in. I looked at him. I said, if no one else is ready, then like it's your turn. And he actually played with me a little bit. And he came on me when someone else came on me, I think. So that was new for us also because generally the person that is like my chaperone for the night won't play until after. but we were having so much fun that we broke our own rule

and he ended up coming during the event and that was fine and we played a little longer and then, you know, I think we were there for like three hours and then we ran out of people so we just went back

we had dinner, went back to the hotel room. How many people were there around? I think we ended up playing there's probably like 30 something guys involved with me in some form. Yeah. Maybe I had sex of like

a dozen or 15. Yeah. He was counting in the beginning and then you lose track. Okay, then you were going to say before you left. We, um, he noticed that there was like a sticker on the wall for some amateur porn girl that was there. So he asked the security guard and he said, oh, yeah, she filmed here one time. And I looked at my husband.

I was like, oh, that would be pretty amazing to like film something here. Oh. So we started talking to the security guard and he was like, yeah, you just need to get permission. You need to like, you know, follow a few guidelines. And he gave us them. for the owner. We spoke to the owner, you know, over the next week or so. And my husband said, we like, oh, my birthday is coming. Wouldn't that be fun to, like, do something for my birthday? So we ended up, like, arranging this event. We posted it on all of our sites again.

What did you call the event? Like, what were, like, when you say it was a event, it's my, it's my, it was Casey's 41st birthday gang bang and Bukaki, I think. Okay. So, right. And we created this. You know, the first time we went, we just said, hey, we'll be there at seven. That was it. But this time, because it was my birthday, I said to him, I said, I let you run the show last time. This time, like, I want to run the show.

I want to fuck guys that I want to fuck. You know, because when you're in a public place, not everybody is exactly like super hot or my type. But because of the environment, like, I let that slide and just whoever he lets touch me touches me. And that's fine. But for my birth, I said, listen, I want like guys that I want. And he said, you know, totally fine.

So we had waivers because you need to make sure, you know, people are over 18 and they give you permission to film. So we had red bracelets. Anybody who signed the waiver had the red bracelet. They were allowed to come on me. But then I personally picked out guys that got a gold bracelet. And those are the guys that I was going to, like, blow them. They were going to fuck me.

You know, we could kiss whatever. like anything goes with them. So it was a mix. But did you bet these people via email and they signed up beforehand or you vetted them in the theater that same night, like right before it all went down? So we posted on the sites that were on and it was like paragraphs of information that we were looking for. So, you know, the Bukaki side, it can be anybody.

It doesn't matter. But the guys that I wanted to play with, we had a bunch of, you know, guys. guidelines and criteria that we were looking for. So some people messaged us and, you know, we spoke to him a little bit. They said they'd be there. Other people just show up. And then some people at the theater don't know what's going on. They just happened to be at the theater.

So it was kind of like a big mix. I mean, did you get a lot of emails from people? Because listen, a lot of people that probably know you and hear from you or on your only fans. I've heard you on podcasts or live all over there. country. So it's not going to be as many as your fans because they have to actually be there in person. But did you feel like you got hit up by like a lot of people? Yeah. Yeah. It was a lot. So this time when we went back, we ended up filming in the front of the theater, like right by the movie screen. There was more space there. And my husband bought like a gym mat so I'd be more

comfortable and we went with a lot more gear this time. What other gear do you have? Oh my God, the gym mat like you're thinking of everything. Yeah, because you wanted me, you know, to be comfortable. Yeah. And they set up the security guards set up like ropes so that they were checking bracelets to make sure the right people were coming in and out. And we had about, I think 30 people signed the waiver, which was a lot because a lot of people don't want to sign stuff.

Yeah, for sure. Which is totally fine. But you're not filming their faces, right? No, but still legally. Yeah, yeah, definitely, of course. Right. Yeah. So we were there a couple hours again.

It was so much fun. This time I wore my glasses and so many people came on my glasses that I couldn't even see anything anymore. So that was, that was fun. Was that like a dirty fantasy of yours? I want my glasses to be come down. My husband really likes me in glasses. Oh, okay. So I've been wearing them a lot more.

lately. Yeah. And we've been like using them in content a lot. But that was the first time that I've ever, you know, been covered and come in my glasses and couldn't see anything. And again, like the crowds are super nice. Everybody is so much fun. And people, like the theater was pretty full that night with like couples.

Because we had a lot of, um, from couples that are like, we just want to come watch, you know. So you have to remember that. guys are responding to this like other people are boyers too and some women were signing their husbands up like it was hilarious oh you're kidding some of yeah but some of the guys the wife signed them up and then they never even got involved because they were too shy oh wow stage right yeah so that was funny but how many couples there was a lot they were on the upper balcony watching and every time somebody would come on me everybody in the place would like cheer and clap no way so funny

hilarious. Yeah. So like as an exhibitionist, this is pure heaven for me. Oh my god, you're a fucking porn star. It's amazing. It's so much fun. Oh my gosh. And then the best part is even from both times we went the next day, we go online. And there's all these messages from people that had so much fun and guys like thanking me. And I go to my husband like, I have no idea who any of these people are because when I'm in the zone, like, I can't tell who's who like, I have no idea of these. people are and they're sending me all these messages about how much fun and and they're like thank you for letting me come on your face last night like the messages are just so funny but they're so normal that is funny and you're right i get it yeah like those are the things that just really amused me when these are the conversations you're having with people you know yeah and they're being like polite and it's like a polite you know it's like there's something very polite about it but they're saying like politely i love jizzing on your

face. Yeah, it's such a like a vulgar and like nasty event that we're having but then everybody is so polite and classy. You know and I love that those two sides of it. Because I think that's exactly me in a nutshell on this like nasty, filthy girl

but then I'm also like I try to stay sophisticated even like on my social media before I got banned. Like I don't post graphic stuff. I post lingerie stuff. But if you want to see graphics stuff, you have to go to my only fans. I don't just like put nude stuff all over the internet just for the hell of it. You know, I try to walk that fine line. So it's just

very entertaining to me. And I love, you know, everybody's thanking my husband and thanking me. And it's just such a unique, you know, experience to have. When it's done, did you get to hang around and kind of work the room and talk to people, or are you the type of performer that wants to, you know, when you're done, get up and just fucking leave and not talk to people. Because I know other performers, they don't want to talk to anyone after they're done. They just want to bail out the back door. What's your style? So like before the event, we were in the lobby and I had like some books. I was doing the waivers. I was talking to people. But afterwards, I kind of a few people came up to me. But otherwise, like when I'm done, I'm done. But I'm also not super, super social. Uh-huh. I like to have sex, but I don't like to hang out. Like, that's not really my nature.

Yeah. I'm not super chatty. I had to stand there and kind of like, you know, sell myself and talk to people and answer questions. And I was like, oh, my God, this is the part that freaks me out, not the gang bang. You know, I'm so funny like that. Right. When it comes to sex, you're all fine. But if you had to have a conversation with a stranger, that might be difficult.

Yes. So complicated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I get it. You're the opposite of me. But wait. So what was the demographics of the people that showed up? Especially the couples.

That's what I'm curious about. It's all over the place. You have younger people, older people, different races and nationalities. Like there's really no consistent across the board. It's literally just everybody. Right. So it wasn't like all older. It was young.

old. It was couples. It was single guys. It was all of the above. Yeah, you have some cross dressers. Like literally everybody is there. So even like a fetish, the guys with fetishes are there. It's a very, I found it was a very welcoming and non-judgmental like place. You know, like really anybody is welcome there. And it's one of those things where it's nice because you can just watch. You don't have to. Like, I always forget because I'm an exhibitionist. I forget that voyeurs do exist and they do just go to hang out and watch. And then, you know, a lot of the couples would just play upstairs as they were watching.

It really is just, it's a mix for everybody. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, when you brought up like, oh, there's a lot of guys in there. In the beginning, you were brought up the word voyeurs. And I forgot, yeah, that kind of a place would attract that kind of guy. And being a voyeur is very different than being someone like you. It's a totally different thing. But it's hardcore as well.

They could be very much a voyeur and not wanting to play, but just jerk off and watch. Yeah. So that part was like I said, was just so interesting to me how turned on people can get just from watching something because I'm the complete opposite. So I appreciate that in other people. And that feeds, you know, into my interest of being next. It's like we all need each other or nothing's going to happen for anyone, you know.

Yeah, and that's probably why you're, I mean, you don't care if your guy fucks other women, but you're not into watching him do that kind of stuff, right? I mean, watching him have sex isn't really that much of a turn on to you. Do you think is probably because you're not a voyeur at all? When we walk into a room, so there's like 50 people fucking, I don't even notice it. Right. Like it just doesn't even register to me. He always make fun of me.

Yeah. Because they're like, oh, you have an only fan, but you don't watch porn. I'm like, nope, I don't. But let me ask you this. Like Casey, before you got so hardcore in the lifestyle, there was obviously a girl that had never been to a swingers club that had never had a gang bang. That girl, did that girl before all that watch porn?

Nope, never. Okay, so never. So it's not like, oh, been there, done that. So seeing people fuck is no big deal because you've been around it so much. It's like it never was a turn on for you. ever. Yeah, even when we were at the theater, like before we started playing,

you know, there's porn playing in there. Yeah. And like, I would glance up at the screen and I'm like, oh, I don't even understand, like, it doesn't, my brain just doesn't understand watching stuff. Like, it just doesn't affect me in any way. Yeah, listen, everyone's wired differently. Some people are wired very much by what they see.

Some people aren't. Guys tend to be more wired visually. I happen to be very, much wired to get turned on by what I see, as well as a little bit by if someone's watching me. So I have that thing, but a lot of people don't. And I think it's typically more men or more visual than women,

but it's not across the board because I'm very visual. But the first time you went into Swingers clubs, like you weren't turned on by seeing everyone have sex at all? I remember being more intrigued that people were not embarrassed and they were not ashamed. It was less about being turned on by what they were doing and more just like, holy shit, like this is real, people are this open. You know, it was like a different feeling in my brain.

Yeah, you were more curious about it. You were intellectualizing it. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, that's what I do on my show when I'm talking about. A lot of people, a lot of people will be like, oh, you turn on when you're horny. I'm like, no, I'm not like, I'm not in that space. I'm curious about people of what people are saying and it's interesting to me, but like the same way, what it's more in line with what you're talking about.

Yeah, it's more like, oh, it's so cool. Those people are doing that. But I look for like a second and then move on. Like I never got turned on seeing what it would make me think, oh shit, I want to do that or I could do that or how can I do that versus like me watching them. It just gave me ideas and pushed me to try new things. but it was never about watching anybody. But did you always know, since you never watched porn, it's interesting for a girl who never watched porn

and is so into everything that goes down in porn. Where did you get all these ideas from? I think just being in the lifestyle, you see things. Yeah. And everything was new and everything was just like exciting whether or not it was for me or I actually wanted to try that specific thing. Like I really learned everything in the lifestyle.

I did not know most of these things existed. And it's been pretty crazy too because this one shocks everybody. I only started masturbating like a year ago, not even a year ago. Thank you. This is what I was waiting for you. I'm trying not to interrupt my guess. It never worked for me. I was waiting for because I really, I was about to say,

could I just go back to the whole no porn thing? Like what did you do before? you got in a lifestyle when you would jerk off? Like what would you just use your imagination? Because I do think that's better. You have better orgasms. But everyone just uses porn. It's like the easy go-to.

So wait a second. Okay. Can we just go there a little bit? That is fucking... That is fucking interesting. Like, what is that all about? What are you trying to tell me that in all your life before even you got in the lifestyle, when you were younger, before you were able to go

fuck whoever you want and let this Casey part of you that, you know, is live in her best life. Now, that part of you was in there. Like, what were you doing before that? Where was your sex drive? Where was your horniness? Where was all of that before? So before the lifestyle,

I really wasn't like a sexual person. I only had a few partners. I was very like boring. You know, like nothing exciting was happening. And then once I went to the lifestyle, I was having so much sex that it never really like I never needed to masturbate it didn't occur to me and the few times that I tried it just did absolutely nothing like it did not

work and then I was like this is stupid I don't know why people do like it just didn't work for me so I I never paid attention to it because like I said I had so much sex with guys that I didn't I never needed to masturbate if I was horny I would just fuck somebody yeah but before that though when you were boring I want to stay there a little bit like like that's interesting because you really are one extreme to another. Right? That's what you're saying. Before you were this girl that is very hardcore extreme.

You're not going to find a lot of people on your end of the spectrum. You're all the way on one side. Hardcore, right? That's what I would call you. And you're sitting here sounding and saying, and it sounds like you were a hardcore boring before. You know, you were the other end of the spectrum that in that you barely slept with anyone and you didn't even like get horny by yourself when the wind blow. Like, you know, you just had no, you didn't have that much sex drive before considering.

I mean, were you always in relationships and you were just getting laid consistently? Or could you just go a long time without sex and you never even thought to masturbate or jerk off? Like that's where that's the interesting part about it to me. Because even when you ovulate as a woman, I mean, in nature, when you ovulate, you get super horny. because you need to go out and procreate. So even if you're not getting horny every other day like most people when they're younger, you would at least get really

horny, you know, for one week out of the month. Wouldn't happen to you? I don't remember if we spoke about this or not in one of the other episodes, but when I was younger, I didn't know that I was allergic to latex. So when I first started having sex with my first boyfriend, I hated having sex because I was getting infections, it hurt, and I didn't know

that that was from the condoms. I thought that's what sex was like. Yeah. So I didn't have this great first experience from like, holy shit, I love sex. It was like sex is horrible. I'm just going to have sex because you're supposed to have sex with your boyfriend, but it was never really pleasurable to me. So when I started dating the guy that my boss, we weren't using condoms,

and he gave me my first orgasm, like everything changed with him. And we got into the lifestyle together. So everything really happened at one time for me. and that was when I was like, wow, I actually enjoy having sex. I want to explore this more. Before that, it was just like a chore and I didn't really like it. I didn't care about it. Yeah, but listen, I mean, there was times of my life where I was with guys that I wasn't that into,

but like I could always get myself off. Like there's so many times that you weren't with a guy having bad sex that hurt. You were home alone, you know, for a long time when you're young, living in your parents' house. you know most people are behind closed doors satisfying themselves because you're sex, like you just get really fucking horny. Like you were never horny even when you weren't with that guy and then decided to just take care of business yourself

like go explore your body. Like yeah, that's a little weird. It is right. And then like I said, everything just happened at once. It was this massive explosion that I just couldn't. Once it all came out, there was no putting it back in, you know?

I was so bottled up, I guess, that once my second boyfriend was able to make you get calm, right? Yeah, I was just, holy shit. Like, I was just obsessed with everything after that. Yeah, it was like you made up for lost time. But it's so interesting how you were able to completely be disconnected from it and now so connected to it that you're almost like, it's almost like addicted to it.

When you say you just need more and more because what you're doing gets old, you know, it's a little bit like chasing the dragon. and you do need more and more when you're doing so much, you're going so extreme, right? Like, and it is the opposite end of the spectrum. Where does Casey wind up? I wonder, you know, will you wind up someday in the middle? Will you stay here?

Even now, like even with Jason, now that we've gone to the theater a few times and people want to have a threesome with us, we're like, shit, like, how exciting is a threesome going to be? Boring. You know, like even if it's an amazing three-time. them. And it's nothing against that guy. Yeah. Just like, how do those things compare and like, where are we going to go from here?

Because now we set the bar even higher. Yeah. You know, and it gets like fucked up now because you have this great experience, but now you crave bigger and better and bigger and better. Yeah. And it gets to a point where like you don't know how to go like one step further. You know, you have to get creative. Yeah, but I mean, eventually you will reach a place where you can't go and then I just wonder where what happens after you get to the place where you're like scratching your head there's like kind of nothing left I don't know or maybe there will be always

something but I do think that kind of a thing where you have an it and you need to scratch it and you want more more it can be a little addictive and it is you get a little addicted probably to all that pleasure that you're having and a lot of times that you know, you can't live in that place because it's just, it's sort of chasing the dragon scenario. But so even with the masturbating thing now, I started, I was able to masturbate once I created my only fans. And I was like filming myself and stuff because like that exhibitionist part now

is such a turn on to me. Yeah. That when I'm filming myself, I can make myself come so easily. but then if I don't have the camera on it doesn't work again. Like it's so, so fucked up. But at least it's like some improvement. I'm making some progress.

Yeah. But when I'm by myself, I'm just like, I don't get it. Like it still doesn't, I don't have that thrill going on. Right. But it turns on the minute the camera is on you. Like, boom, it's there. It's interesting. It seems like it's almost like you have two parts of yourself and they're not maybe so integrated.

Eventually that you. you might be able to be more of a mixture of both. Like I said, I mean, maybe you'll wind up somewhere in the middle 10 years from now when you've been there, done that. But I feel like with only fans and now that you film something, there is a lot you can do to scratch that itch. If you get into porn, because you are doing custom videos, because you are a hardcore exhibitionist,

and there'll always be somebody there wanting to pay you because the great thing about you, I think, if somebody wants to go out and get an only fan's girl, is that you're not doing it for the money. You're doing it because you fucking love sex. I mean, you love this. You know, the money is just coming to you and you didn't even plan it.

You couldn't have planned it more perfectly. But that wasn't, that's not the reason why you're doing this. You've been doing this and not getting paid for years. And so I think that that's what's, always, you always, I mean, as a person who watched porn, okay? Like one of the normal people that watched porn, not normal, but you know, I always preferred to watch people, like amateur people that were really enjoying the sex, that you really knew were into it because there's so much porn out there where it's just like, you know, smoke and mirrors

and music. And I'm like, this shit sucks with perfect looking people that are faking their orgasms. You know, you want to, the little boyer in me wants to see the real deal. And I do think that a lot of guys are that way and a lot of people are wired that way. So that's what you bring to the table. So there's always going to be people coming, knocking on your door, looking for you to jerk off on camera and stuff.

So you'll probably, you know, be able to satisfy yourself that way for a very long time, don't you think? Yeah, and it's interesting the point that you made because now, you know, that people kind of know a little bit who I am and stuff, I get all these messages on social media and it's guys with pages and they're like, oh, I would love to get together and make content with you. And it's funny because I say no to everybody because I don't look at myself as somebody that just makes content. Like, I'm not going to sleep with you just to make a video.

Yeah, yeah. I record my real life and there's a very big difference to me. And some people think I'm crazy for thinking that way. But that's not appealing to me that you just want to fuck me so we can make a video. like that's not what I'm about. If I happen to fuck you, I might record it, but it's like a one-way road for me. It doesn't, that's not enticing to me

to just like trade content with people and fuck people just to make content. You know, it has to be somebody that I actually want to play with. And I think so many people out there that have only fans, you know, they're just struggling. to like get stuff up on their page and they're willing you know to kind of do whatever it takes to make content that's the vibe that I get from a lot of people but that's really not how I am like

I don't want my real life to be affected because I haven't only fans and I don't like I've had some people you know they kind of think um you know people are like paying to fuck me and stuff and I'm like no people fuck me for free people pay to watch my content like there's a very very big difference to me. Oh, yeah. Very, very well said. I have no problem with people that get paid for sex. Like, good for you. I support all sex workers.

Yeah. But people have a hard time understanding that, like, me and my husband just do this because this is our life and we're in the lifestyle. They can't, you know, process that there's like no ulterior motive and stuff. And I think that's really interesting. Yeah, but that's why you're successful, though, because you did come out of nowhere, okay? Yeah, literally. It just sort of happened.

I think you made a comment on a post of mine and then boom, you know, I mean, everything kind of changed, right? You came on my show and then got people and then decided to do it and then it just has snowballed. And I do think that when you are super authentic in whatever you do, you know, whether it's you're a doctor that loves helping people, whether you're a porn star that loves sex, I think that those kind of people always rise to the top because they are. coming from the right place like you said and I thought you stated it perfectly when you said this is like people don't I'm not getting paid to have sex I do that in my regular life people are paying to watch me do what I regularly do and that is I think what makes you stand out from the rest and that's why you became super successful so fast because I don't think that that's the majority of people and that is across the board like when I talked about that

medical doctor in every profession. There are so many people that are just doing it for the fucking paycheck. And then you have that 10% that is doing it because they fucking love what they do. And that to me is what's always important. If you could find that, you know, for you, it's having sex. For other people, it's cutting hair. For me, it's talking to people. For you, it's having sex.

And that's what you love. And now you're able to monetize it. So I think that that will always help you at least, though, scratch that itch because you do have that thing going on where you're like oh you and your guy are like what comes next okay now you've gone to the adult there how many times have you gone there oh we've gone there twice and we're planning on going to a different one um in a couple of weeks hopefully so wait let's tell we're not ending it just yet but you know and i'll give it out in the description and i'll also say it in the beginning because people that are listening that are

like i want to fucking see this show they can get in the know by you going to your website, correct? Why don't you give out your website? Yeah, so Casey's Donatello.com. If you go to the news section, I will post, you know, where I'm going to be. And I also have on my website, my different social media accounts where I'll also post stuff. So, you know, I definitely throw it out there so that people will know where I'm going to be. And so what is the next?

We like meeting people. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Where is the next place you're going and what are you setting up? So it's, I think it's more of a bookstore slash theater and they have, they have different like rooms and glory holes and stuff like that. So it's more than just the theater. My husband found it.

So we've heard it's a lot of fun there because there are different, like we heard that there's kind of like a bench or an Ottoman or something that spins. so like I could just be on it on all fours and people can be like spitting me around and fucking me and like coming on me. Like an amusement park like different rides to go on. Yeah. And when we go there, I don't, we're not filming there.

We're just going like for us to have fun. So hopefully my husband will play because that's the other thing. We try to make sure that only fans is not taking away from like our real life also. Yeah. We film we film a lot of. I post every day, but we don't film every single thing that we do because, you know, I want to make sure we're still in the moment sometimes and we're still just like having fun here and there without worrying about a camera and stuff. Because I think that's really important so we don't get lost in it. Yeah, for sure.

That's smart. Yeah. Yeah. And what was interesting on your husband's episode is he did talk about your interesting living arrangement, which I think is great and smart. but he was saying that you know you have the separate bedroom where you guys go and have sleepovers and stuff I did make a joke earlier that oh you guys should just have like vanilla missionary sex sometimes and that would be super hot I mean do you connect with your husband in a very different way than you're connecting with all these other people like what kind of sex do you have with him so we have we have everything we

have very intimate sex. Yeah. We have wild sex. We also have so much trust between us that he is allowed to do things to me that other people can do. You know, he gets 110% of me. Yeah. Other guys get very specific parts, you know.

I'm not looking, when we meet other guys, I'm looking to get fucked. Like, that's it. I'm not looking for, like, sweet sex. I'm not looking for anything romantic or sensual. and as far as like we'll play I'll play pretty rough with guys and they can you know like we'll put like the collar on they could spank me and stuff but my husband is allowed to go a lot farther than those guys can go so he gets more privileges like across the board and like I don't cuddle with guys you know it's just a very very different Yeah. And we were talking about this yesterday, actually, because when I was single, I only, I got, you know, all of my attention came from guys in the lifestyle. So, you know, you wanted to cuddle with guys. You wanted affection. You wanted to hold somebody's hand. Like I pushed limits and crossed boundaries with guys, you know, because the lifestyle is generally like no feelings. You know, it's all NSA. But I got very close to a lot of people. because you're craving that like human connection. It gets very, very, like, depressing sometimes if you just have one night stands

and you don't have that little bit of something. So I would always have a handful of guys I was very close with. And then all the other people were just, you know, random hookups. But now that I'm with Jason, I don't crave any of that stuff from anybody. Like, I don't want that from anybody. I get all of that at home. so I'm looking for just very specific things when we play with other guys and you know other couples are different you know some women are a couple and they want that side of somebody and that's totally fine but you have to know in your relationship what you want and my husband isn't the one putting any of those restrictions on me you know he tells me I could go play by myself I can go on dates with God like I don't want to do that though so you really have to know yourself and you know know, just really be in touch with what you want. And just because he thinks it would be hot for me

to do something with someone, if I don't want to do it, then he's not going to ask me to do that, if that makes sense, you know. But when we first met, I was like, I'm going to be a hot wife that goes out and comes home to you, covered and come from other guys. And he was like, I don't think so. I'm not into that. And now we've completely switched where he's into that, but I don't want to do it. That's so funny. You never know. Yeah, yeah. It's really interesting. And it's such a process. and that's why you have to have really good communication. And, you know, it's funny sometimes to think that we both did such a 180 from when we met. Yeah, totally.

And he really broke it down to like a lot of different things and explained a lot of different things that were going on when you first met because you did push him away a little bit, a little freaked out. And you were very much expecting things to go one way. And it did turn out a very different way. And what was interesting, though, when I spoke with him, he said the same exact thing. Like he was in the same exact place that you. you were when he was navigating the lifestyle. He said that he always, even though he's having a lot of fun and he was with all these

couples and he had, you know, he was swapping and he was like the guy unicorn for everyone. He was missing that connection too. And, you know, the year you were, two people in the lifestyle that were craving something more and you found each other, like so perfectly well suited for each other. You're lucky. Yeah, very lucky. And it does prove, you know, that. that it can work and, you know, you just, you got to wait it out sometimes and wait for the right person,

but we also did so much work to get where we are. Like we, like you said, we didn't meet and it was perfect. It was a shit show when we met. And we decided to make it good. You know, it takes a lot of work and we still work at it. And it never ends the process. But it is so rewarding and just incredible. And it's really hard to put into words sometimes.

like what you feel for each other when you're on these dates with other people like sometimes I forget that there's other people in the room and like I'll literally have another guy inside me and he's looking at me Jason's looking at me saying I love you while another guy's fucking me like it's so crazy to say that but there's just something so magical about it while it's happening and you connect it's incredible you connect it in that way and when you are though because sometimes like I would wonder oh you know, you're wired to like the seedy places and sex with strangers and then you go home and now you have this one-on-one intimate sex, romantic sex with Jason.

And is that just as hot? The orgasms just as good. Yes. And when we first met, I had a very hard time being intimate with him. Like I just wanted him to rail me all the time. And he's like, you know, we're dating. Like, it made me. When he would be sweet and romantic with me, it would freak me out and I couldn't come.

Yeah. And it took like months and months for me to get out of like the swinger mentality and be like, okay, he's a real boyfriend. Like you have to go back to being, you know, in relationship mode. So I had to retrain my body and my brain to connect with somebody on an emotional level. Yeah. But now it's just, it's incredible when we're together. And sometimes still say to me, you know, you have all these guys all the time like,

how are you still satisfied with me being like one guy and I'm like it is so different you can't even compare and I would give up fucking every guy ever again just to like be with my husband like it's not even a question in my mind it's just something that we do together but it never takes away from my time with him or the way I feel about him because when you love someone that much it's just it's so different nothing compares to it nothing you know even comes close to it it's just crazy. Yeah and like honestly if I was like talking to you and you didn't have the whole Jason thing, I would worry a little bit about you because you're kind of like, oh, what's the next best thing? I'm a little addicted to this like shit. I'm doing so much. But at the end of the day, none of that

exists in your relationship with him. You know, what you have with him is the real deal. You're really in love. You've figured out how to wire yourself to be turned on by that. Like you're all good. You know, that is clear. That is true love between you two. And that is never going to be changed. All that other stuff is what it is. And it's fucking fun and you got your thing. But I think what you have that is most important is that foundation with your guy.

Yeah. Like if we have five dates in a week or zero dates in a week with other people, like we are still the same couple. Yeah. It doesn't. Right. You're not chasing the dragon with him. I mean, it's not like, oh, something's missing. in your relationship. It's just missing in maybe the fun that you have and the extracurricular

activities that you guys do. But at the end of the day, you don't have that kind of issue with him. You guys connect the right way. And I think it was very interesting when you said, like in the beginning, you had that Swinger mentality and you had to rewire yourself to be open and vulnerable to that kind of sex and, you know, allow yourself to enjoy that. But once you figure that out, you're all good to go and you guys have a solid relationship. And I think that that's great. And people need to listen to your guys episode if they haven't. I aired it right before this one.

So go listen to it. Because he does explain. I'm not going to have you explain it. He explains your living arrangement. I just want to say, I applaud you for that. That would be the kind of living arrangement I would have if I was married. It makes sense. It's interesting.

It's a little bit different, but it really works for you guys. And I even said on his episode, I'm like, this is like a little bit of a love story. Like I liked his episode for that because it was a little bit more about you guys together as a couple and how you guys met and found each other. And it was cool to hear. And you are very lucky that you found him. And I think that that's great. And I think your Bukaki gangbbing story was fucking great. Okay.

People need to go to your website. I will link to it in the bottom. You also wrote books. okay of all your shenanigans it's three different books i i told you to make a fucking podcast about it so hopefully she'll have that coming out just audiobooks so all you truck drivers could listen to her stories as you're driving that should be coming out soon if i know casey she'll have that done in a week i know i have a lot going on yeah yeah yeah but okay two weeks i give you but anyway kisi give out your website again and i'll put it in the description and give

anything else you want to tell people about? Sure. So the website is Casey.ottello.com. That is all of my other links to everything. And then OnlyFans is at Hot Life Life-Life-Life 869. Okay, cool. So go follow her to hear about her next event. And if you want the real deal kind of real content,

go sign up to her fucking OnlyFans. You heard it here. She is doing this because she loves to do it. And to me, that's like what you should pay for. Anyway, thank you, Casey. Thank you for always giving me such a great episode. Of course. Anytime.

All right. Thanks. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.

The book is basically 17 different stories. taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over. the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then

skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be

giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback, send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This strictly anonymous podcast.