Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 614 - Greg's Wife was Totally Into Gangbangs and Now she's Not

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Greg’s wife was totally into gangbangs and being in the lifestyle but now she's not and he called in all about it.with How did she get into gangbangs? How any did she have? And, why isn’t she into them anymore? Tune in for all the details including how he got into the lifestyle early on, how he met his wife and told her he was in lifestyle and how she reacted, how and when he found out she was bisexual and totally into women, their fivesome on their wedding night, how she brought up the whole gangbang idea and and what went down at their first one, how he felt while watching, the rules she had set up, beforehand the average amount of guys she had at her gangbangs as well as the most amount of guys she had at one, how and why his wife is totally into BBC, his first experience with a guy and how and why that eventually led to more, how and why he cheated on her behind her back, how she found out he was cheating and how she reacted, his jealous feelings and why he sometimes had them, why his wife one day decided she wasn’t into gangbangs anymore, how and why they then decided to have an open marriage, how she started dating an ex and why he eventually had a problem with it, when she fell in love with her ex and how he found out about it, how and why they still live together but don’t have sex anymore, what they both get out of it,, how she’s still with the guy she fell in love with and why she cant move forward with him, why its been so difficult for him to play solo now in lifestyle, what he misses most about the lifestyle that he doesn’t get anymore plus a whole lot more.  **To see anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So if you want to talk to me, but on the DL, go to the description and click on the link. There's a link there that you could click and just book the time with me. Now, today I have on Greg. Greg, I thought we were just going to be talking about gangbings, but his whole situation is a lot more messy. It almost goes into like Jerry Springer territory eventually. But it's super interesting. You know, he called in to talk about all the gangbangs that he set up with his wife, as well as his bi experiences.

And then we got into talking about their lifestyle now. Okay, so like I said, first we talk about how he met his wife. He was involved in the lifestyle before he met her. And then the minute he met her, she was like fucking down. They got into it. They were into the lifestyle. And she was like really into gangbangs wanting to do them. They started setting them off.

He talks about the rules that they had and how many guys they had. I mean, there was other girls there sometimes. She was into girls too. They were pretty open with each other. He was allowed to see other people, but he was also cheating on her. He talks about that, which doesn't make sense. We go into why he was with a woman who they had a whole open relationship. They were all banging other people.

He was still seeing girls behind her back and not telling him. But she was also doing these gangbangs. He would set them up. There was one time where there were like 17 guys, I think, and four girls. We go into all of that. And then eventually his wife turned around and was like, I'm not into doing this shit anymore. He talks about why that happened, when that happened,

and what happened after? And what happened after? She was like, let's not do that, but let's, you know, stay together but have an open relationship. And they decided to have an open relationship. And soon after, she wound up hooking up with like an ex-guy of hers. And now they're dating. and she's been dating him for like 10 years and they're still married and you're like why the fuck is he staying with her and then you find out that her other guy is like got a wife and has been dating her for 10 years and the wife has no idea and they're still living together and it's just like a crazy that's where it starts to be like oh it's like cherry springer

I'm trying to get the wife on to get her perspective of everything he does talk about all of his by experiences he has hooked up with guys and done threesome's oral and then anal and all that stuff and we talk about that too But like I said, it eventually just gets to the point where he's at right now, which is like his wife has a boyfriend and he still lives with her and they're still married and he's still in the lifestyle. But he's not like, you know, hooking up and getting as much action as he used to. And that's what we discuss. The whole story is super interesting. Hopefully I'll get his wife on to explain her side, but you're going to want to hear his side first. So I'm going to be right back on with Greg. Hi, Greg.

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. You're good. I'm good. I'm excited to talk to you. I don't know much. But I do know you're calling in to talk about like the gangbangs that you and your wife throw or have thrown and been involved in.

Or I don't know. I mean, you need to tell me the story because I don't, that's all the information that I have. But whenever there's a gang bang involved, I always know it's going to be a good story. Yeah. Well, well, I mean, I got to start the beginning, which is about 20 years ago, 23 years ago. go. Mm-hmm. I was kind of

thrusted into the Swinger lifestyle by some friends at a bar party at a bar in a hotel and I had a room there and the next thing I know I'm with this girl

and they think she, I know that she invited married friends that we knew over and we're all having sex together. So I'm like. So now I realize I'm a swinger.

And that was your first experience. And you think that the girl had set it up. She was like a swinger. Yes. And they say, well, I'm going to kind of sort of like you that the minute I'm interested in something, I wouldn't do all the research on it and I'm going to get involved with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So like I'm researching online. I'm reading books. I'm finding out things like what the terms mean. So I guess I became a hardcore swinger after that. So I meet my wife. No, no, you're not telling that story good, okay? Let me just drag it out a little bit because you're like, you know, somehow you wind up in a hotel room fucking other people. Like there's a bunch of people there.

You all have sex. You're like, oh, I guess I'm a swinger. You do some research and then now you're hardcore swinging and you're married. I mean, were you married at the time that you, is that the woman? No, I was. I was single. Okay, so I mean like, okay, so throughout being single before you married your wife, like how many years were you swinging for? About two.

So two years you got into the community. Now, did you meet your wife while swinging or was she a vanilla person? She was a vanilla. But she took to it like a fish to water as well. Well, how do you explain to a girl? You know, I mean, here you are dating this woman. You eventually marry her. Like, when do you put that card on the table and say,

hey, by the way, I'm into swinging? Luckily, I had friends who were in lifestyle. there were also kind of her vanilla friends too. So they kind of steered her into, we're kind of melded into that community together. So you never brought it up to her? I don't understand. Like, did you ever have a conversation?

Like, how does she wind up finding out that you're in this whole world? If I'm dating a guy and I, you know, meet him, you didn't tell me the first date. Like, when did you let her know what you were into? Wasn't too long after the first date. What did you say? And how did she react?

She just wants to be friends of benefits at first. Okay. So I just said, look, I'm in the swinging, and this is what I do. If you ever interested, these group of friends that we, mutual friends, we have, I'm also swingers too. Okay, and she was like down for it. Because you guys were just having sex when you met her. This was your white.

Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I get it now. I just, it was hard to understand, you know. I'm thinking it's some sort of traditional dating scenario, but it really wasn't. You guys were just banging. So it was sexually charged relationship, just about that. So it's easy to bring up, hey, I'm a fucking swinger.

Because you're not thinking you're going to marry this girl at that point. No. Right. Well, the decision to marry her became after our first swing experience. Tell me about that. Well, a friend of ours had a party and we're all playing around. And I didn't know she was by. I mean, I leave the room to go do something.

sitting drink or something and she's in a room of one of my mutual friends female I come back into the room and she's going down on her and like that was decision

oh I got to marry this girl because she's just like into it right as into it as you were because you had been doing stuff before right uh huh yeah and that was decision

we were swingers okay and she was down for it and so now you guys are playing on yeah this is the days of AOL Yahoo and so after that

we got married we went to a courthouse in Ohio and got married and our wedding night was paid for by a friend of ours just in a hotel just a hotel room

and we on a wedding night we get interrupted by three friends I'm we're naked in bed they want to come in the room for some reason actually it's a smoke weed. And the next thing I know, she's on a bed with her friend filling her up on wedding night.

A female friend? Yes. Okay. So you guys have like a threesome, foursome, five-some on your wedding night? Five-sum. Five-sum. Okay. And now who's doing who?

Everyone, you're like, she's down with you having sex with women and all that shit, too? Yes. And soon after that, she gets the idea of that she might be interested in having a gangbang. So at this point, I'm just a swinger. I don't know what I organize a gang bank. Yeah, it's hard enough to organize a regular party for people to show up. I mean, like a lot of, you know, to get so many people there that she would be into, it's a hard work. Yeah. So she talks to another swinger friend. And she tries to help her. us with it, but she invites non-vanilla people to our first gangbang. Well, what do you want? Vanilla people at a gangbang? I don't understand.

No, she invites vanilla people to a gangbang. Oh, oh, you said non-vanella. She invited regular people to the fucking gangbang. Why? Stupid. I don't know. I don't know who these people are that she invited. Okay. And, well, there's like seven of us in there. I mean, I'm naked. My wife's naked having sex with a couple of guys. And I'm watching, trying to keep up.

These people show up who are not in the lifestyle just watching and judging. He's not here for this. You've got to leave. Eventually they leave. And that was our experience of the first game bank. Was it good? I mean, do you really, you're kind of like, you know, not so great of a storyteller. You're just like glossing over things.

I mean, I'm just like wondering, do you like, are you? Are you interested? I mean, I could tell you liked when you saw your girl with another girl. I mean, are you very interested in seeing your partner with men, I'm assuming. I mean, is that a big turn on for you? I really enjoyed watching her with other men and women, but I enjoy it with men because she's uninhibited. With me, she seems very inhibited. She's not very loud.

when she's in the lifestyle with other men, she gets off on it. Wow, that's interesting. And I know eventually you have some buy experiences, so we'll talk about that. But at this point, have you had any buy experiences? I had one experience with a guy in a hot tub. It sounded like a flat to a bad sitcom,

but I had gone down on a guy in a hot tub for like two minutes for an ex of mine who was also in the lifestyle interrupted us. But you were into it? Yes. Okay. And that was your only experience back then before I'm assuming you were. So,

giving me more to Gang Bang. My wife's friend that she works with lost her job. And as a way to supplement her income, And she thought, well, when she would throw gangbanks. This is a regular woman from her work or someone she knows is in the lifestyle. No, no. Well, she worked with her, but she was also in the lifestyle.

But she knew her before she worked with her. Okay. Mm-hmm. And my wife said she would help out. And I went along for the ride, basically, is the guy who was security. You were security. You wind up in the case. Yes.

I was the one who would say basically, what can or can not happen, or if a guy got too out of control, yeah, I was the one out to show him to the door. Right, right. I never happened, but that was basically my job. So she starts to put together these gangbangs. Now, how much input does your wife have, you know, as far as the guys that she's selecting?

What is she into? My wife has pretty much control of, like, the guys. Well, not totally the guys, but she invites her home. guys that she knows. And it was always a set of rules that everything is like no means no. Ask before you do anything and

then condoms were must. So that was basically the hit. The rules that we had about it. So massive, so total condoms. She has total control. She says no, yes, it's all up to her. What the fuck could go down. Does she do anal

with these guys? No, she only does anato with me. Okay. Well, at least back then she only did hang it with me. Okay. All right. So how does the first gang bang go that this girl sets up for you guys? It was really interesting.

My wife actually had sex with a couple of guys that he knew already but didn't know they were in the lifestyle. We knew them already but didn't know they were in the gangbanks. So we did a couple of gangbangs. couple of times and my wife seemed to enjoy him. She didn't really enjoy them with her friend as much as she did by herself because my friend didn't drink too much. Our friend didn't drink too much. If we have philosophy, if you have to drink to do it, you shouldn't be doing it.

So her friend was also getting fucked by these guys? I mean, it was like a two-girl bang-bang? Yeah. Okay. Two girls. You didn't tell that. You're the worst storyteller. Okay, I'm going to have to talk.

I'm going to have to. Yeah, you're horrendous. But it's okay. You have good stories. I'll get them out of you. Don't worry. That's what I excel at. A couple of times we had the one party, one time, one gang, many, we had four girls and 17 guys. Oh, my goodness. So your wife and three other women and 17 guys. Yes, and we had, and my wife's fucked 11 of her. I always remind her that. She does, for some reason, she does not like me remind him of that. Why not?

Why do you think? I don't, it's another part of the story where we're not in the lifestyle anymore. Oh, okay, we'll get there. So wait, so she, but at first when she's doing these and the girl is setting it up, she prefers it when the other girl isn't there because the girl's too drunk. Yeah. She likes the other girl, but the girl gets too drunk for my wife's day. So we eventually had to stop going there because it would be going to be.

me too much drama with her when they were drinking. She was, I'm going to say she's the single crazy female you always hear about in the lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. But your girl, though, obviously loves gangbangs. I mean, was that 17 guy gangbbing the most guys she ever did at one time? Yeah, she only did. I didn't at that party, but yeah, that was the most we ever had at one party. What was the average, though, at these gangbings that you were doing that would show up?

Because my wife was doing a solo one, it would usually be about 8 to 10. Wow. If it was, if it was harder friend, it was usually like 10, 12. We usually had a mathematical equation of one girl to every five guys would be a good starting point for. usually because guys you'll get too anxious if a girl's too busy but five seem to be a right number per girl and now what were the demographics of the guys that would show up i mean you know my wife is only into bbc okay so she's only into black guys she's only into and is she white or is she black she's white okay but she's totally into the bbc so when she's having a gang bang are you black or white

I'm black. Okay. So she's only into black eyes. And so she, for her gangbangs, that's what she prefers. No white guys ever. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Well, she's done a couple of white guys in my style, but she mostly's all been black guys. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. So it's always black guys there. Now, do you, just, I mean, like, how hard is it to find guys to show up to a gang bang? Like, I mean, is it typically the same guys in rotation coming to these things or are they're always like new guys to find in a half?

Where do you find them? Back then, it was AOL and Yahoo groups. Yeah. And we, and it was typically the same guys we always had. We needed to have them every couple of months. Yeah. That's what I would think. They would generally show up.

Yeah. Yeah. They would generally show up because if you have a successful one and guys have a good time, they didn't want to come back. Right. I don't think it's that easy to find a bunch of guys to show up to a gang bang. I mean, and I think that once you find the guys, if that's like what they're into, and they know that this woman's down, they're going to want to be in rotation, you know,

and I will assume that that's the way that it went. Now, did you ever, like, I know that you're there as security. Are you partaking while you're there? Are you having sex afterwards with your wife? I mean, you have to be getting off on this because you love seeing your wife. Like, when do you get pleasure during the gangbing around? If it was my wife and a friend, I was joining in with her friend. Once in a while, I only had a lot of sex with her friend.

Or if we had, like, other women there, I would join in with them. But my wife usually, it was usually afterwards because I didn't know the guys and I didn't know what they were like into because I didn't wear condoms. And I don't know if guys wanted to go in where after a guy, you didn't use a condom. But I've come to find out nowadays that it doesn't. it matter. Guys don't care. Okay, but back, so back then you didn't participate with her because you would have had to use a condom and you didn't want to. Is that what you're

saying? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Okay. So you would have, but like, so after your guy would do, your girl would do all those guys, she was still ready to go with you when you got home. Oh, yeah. Actually, those are the best sex experiences where we were after a swing,ish party, or a gang bang, when we went home. Mm-hmm. We used to have the best sex.

So that's like that reclaiming sex, correct? Yeah, yes. Now, did you guys play solo at all, or were you always together when you were doing these kind of things? She played solo with the guy that we had a threesome with. Mm-hmm. And actually, that was one of, that was a time that I actually had contact with another guy. I had oral with him, too, because he was into guys.

I found out he was into guys. So we had a pre-song like that where we performed oral on each other. Mm-hmm. Was that your only experience with the guy, or after that, did you, like, get down? After that, I had a couple of more experiences. Mm-hmm. And one of them was really not great. But that's had farther down.

But she spent the night with a couple of guys. Didn't bother me any at all. I would assume maybe you like it. Maybe you're a little bit of a cuck. Yeah. I didn't know, but I didn't know what that was back then. I know, me neither. I mean, that was a new,

I just found out people were into that kind of stuff doing my show. And I don't even think in the beginning, I've been doing my show for about eight years, I don't think in the beginning when guys will call in and talk about these kinds of scenarios that they had that cuck word so available. I just kind of knew, right? But you kind of were a cuck.

Now, would you see people, you didn't see anyone solely? No, not that she knew about it. I was basically cheating. What? I was cheating in the lifestyle. Yeah. Oh, that always, but, you know, isn't it so fucked up? I mean, I think that that, listen, I know that it happens, but it's always so fucked up

because, like, here you are a guy married to a woman who's super open, completely up front, puts all her cards on the table. She's like, yeah, I want to fuck a ton of guys and have gangbangs, and she's doing it all in front of you being completely. transparent and you're like and you could fuck girls you could fuck her friends you could blow guys she's down with it and yet you still

feel the need to cheat well it wasn't necessarily need to cheat it was more necessarily of me to I didn't want to have the argument about oh I'm going to see this person and her asking you do argument well you don't know now what are you doing

that can be my own judge of character and I think part of that was hurt your own jealousy So she was jealous Even though I mean you have to talk about that So like you guys are here you are playing Hardcore with other people Her with many guys

You go in a swingers club She's sleeping with women too She likes them She's seeing you blow guys But she had issues sometimes with you And that's what you didn't want to sort of work through No I didn't want to sort of the issues of I didn't want to deal with her jealousy

It's like It's not even like she's not even involved It's just a sex thing And I'm just going to go do it And get it over with it And that was it But I mean You didn't get enough sex at the club

Because it seems like Listen you guys are completely in the lifestyle You were in it before her She was down with it I mean you kind of had a very open free Life to fuck whoever you wanted I mean Was it that just every now and then

You meet a girl that's not in the lifestyle And you'd be like I need to fucking have her too I mean like I don't understand Well one girl I met who was in the lifestyle, but my wife didn't like her. Oh, okay. So. Why didn't your wife like or do you know?

For some reason, she didn't care for. Well, and did this girl know that your wife didn't like her and still fucked you anyway? No, I kind of played the buffer and said, no, my wife's not interested in getting together with us, but we can get together. She's fine with that. So you lied to her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Or if I know that this woman is not my wife's type, I'm not even going to bring it up. And you're just going to, but if she's your type, you're just going to go sleep with her. Yeah. To be honest, when I'm at swagger clubs, when we used to go to swater clubs, I was not getting as much action as you would think I was getting. Oh, okay. Tell me about that. That's interesting because I feel like I have heard that before. Like it really is like a woman's world where they are in control and they get anything they want.

Yeah. Unless you have a huge performing cost, you're not really, it's women's choice. I mean, they're going to go to the guys who want to perform their best. And unless you get that opportunity, they're not really going to make it imprint on anybody. Right. So I guess I'm like, it's ridiculous for me to be thinking that like here you are just because you're in the swingers world that you could fuck whoever you want because that's not the case. No.

Right. No, it's not. Yeah, it's wrong of me to sort of think that. You're actually reminding me. Like, that's not the case. So you're not getting. And in a weird way, I have to assume that maybe, you know, the way you frame and get it in your head, like, look at all the action she's getting.

So, you know, if you want someone and she's not into it, I don't know. Is that the way you kind of saw it? Like, it's only fair, even though you're not telling her? yes it is like oh she's getting all this action I can I get I can get action when I can get it you know we're having we're having our we have a pretty normal exciting sex life just ourselves but

if we're no I'm not getting some of outside of marriage it really isn't it's not really we're not really swingers it's just her being a swinger and I'm watching it and I wasn't totally into that couple last house out in fact Good. Right, right.

I mean, listen, everyone's different. Some guys, that's enough for them. But for you, you wanted that variety just like she was getting to. I mean, right? You wanted as much extra outside action as well as what you were getting from your wife, just like she was. But she didn't want you to have that. You felt like she was more particular with who you could play with?

Yeah. She wanted people that she knew already that she could trust. Right. So you weren't jealous at all when it came to her with guys, but she was jealous when it came to you with women. Oh, I had my fit to jealousy, but it was, wow, you never made that sound with me before. What was up with that? Yeah, well, you did say.

Yeah, you said it at the beginning. Yeah, I was like, wow, what was that? Yeah, listen, anybody would say that's in the lifestyle that there's always, going to be some jealousy that comes out every now and then, but you just kind of sort of talk it through. I'm just wondering why you couldn't, why you guys couldn't get past her jealousy. I'm just thinking maybe you just, you know, some guys, it's like a typical guy thing. You know, they don't want confrontation. They don't want to have a conversation. I feel like with your girl, you probably, you could have maybe worked through it, but maybe you didn't even try to. And you just went and did it

because you're like, I don't even want to deal with the conversation. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's like, I didn't want to deal with it. I get what I want. Yes, you didn't even try, but probably you could. That's just what, like, that's just what kind of boggles my mind and I think is fucked up. Because I, and I think that a lot of men roll that way. Guys don't really like conversation, not conversations, confrontations.

They don't want to fucking talk about shit. Women do. We love that. Okay, we're fine. But I feel like you didn't probably give her the chance to maybe work through her jealousy and have those conversations so that you could have more variety in your life with her being in the know as opposed to you doing it privately. Did she ever find out that you were cheating on her? Yeah. Because one of the people I have has a really big mouth. Right. And what happened? And she told her.

I mean, I didn't find out for years afterwards. That she knew. That she knew, yeah. So you got caught, but she didn't really care. No. No, not as much as I thought she was. She did. Yeah, that's what I mean. You didn't even give her a chance. Maybe you could have been doing all that stuff on the download, but you just didn't want a deal. So you just went. So you were seeing some people behind her back.

But you guys were still swinging and doing all of this stuff. Let's get back to the story. Because I know that you're currently not doing gangbangs and stuff. Like, you know, how long? I'm not doing with my wife anymore. I'm still trying to throw gangbangs. It's really difficult as a single guy. Okay.

So you and your wife broke up. You're divorced? No. Well, no, we're not divorced. We just, she can stop being in the lifestyle. Okay, so tell me what happens. Okay, you're doing all these gangbangs. You're seeing girls on the side, but she doesn't really know, nor does she care.

Or she even found out. But, I mean, you know, like, how many gangbangs does she wind up having, do you think? Between 15 to 20 over about six-year period. Okay. And then it just, all of a sudden, she said she stopped. want to go it anymore. Do you know why? I never got a answer other than the fact that she said she grew up. How old was she when you met her? No, it can make, listen, it makes sense to her.

But let me just ask you, how old was she when you met her? 27. Okay. And how old was she when she told you like, I'm grown up now. I don't want to do it anymore. About 36, 37. So how did you take that? I mean, did she not want to do any kind of swinging? I mean, was she all of a sudden like, oh, I would want to be vanilla and monogamous and all that? Or was she just like, I just don't want to do gangbang.

Neither. She wasn't doing neither. She decided that after one gangbanger, she decided that she didn't want to do it anymore. And did she expect you to get out? Like, how did that conversation go? Because here you are still in the lifestyle doing your thing. you were, I'm assuming, sick of it. So, like, what was the deal moving forward?

I was still in it. I didn't have any expectation to be just to stop doing it. But she also didn't tell you you had to. Yes. She was cool with it? And that's so many words. She was not cool with it. So she decided that, hey, we're going to have an open relationship.

Oh, okay. See, this is more than a gang-bang story. This is like interesting. So she's like, okay, listen, I don't want to do that. But if you want to still go do that, let's have an open relationship. And listen, I know for some reason, because there were some dogs barking that I edited it out before. And you were like, oh, if my wife's boyfriend came by. So I know that things go really crazy here.

Okay. Yeah. What the fuck happens? She tells you that you decide to have an, and now you're cool with having an open relationship at that point? Yeah, I'm thinking, oh, I'm thinking we have an open relationship. I'm going to go back to days when I'm single. I can single in the swinging lifestyle and get any woman just about possible. But apparently it's not like that anymore.

You're not 20 years old anymore. Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not as healthy. I'm not. I'm older.

And women are not open to a man who's not emotionally available. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that easy. That's why they call them like, you know, unicorns, the ones that want to go with the couples and stuff. But yeah, so you were fighting it hard to meet other people, but was your wife going out and meeting other guys? She went out and met a couple of us. She reconnected with an ex-boyfriend.

But while you guys are still married, is she, like, telling you about this while it's happening? Were you concerned? I wasn't as concerned until the sex in our relationship completely dried up. Okay, so you weren't concerned. There were no red flags. I mean, you guys hadn't really played solo that much before. But at this point, because you have an open relationship, she's allowed to go out with that guy and she's going out with that guy and you're like fine with it for a while? Yeah.

Yeah, wrong move. So was it a year before things dropped off that she was dating, like seeing him on the side? Or did it happen fast where they reconnected and fell in love? And she was like not fucking you anymore. Like what was that time period like? They were still talking on and off while we were still married. Yeah. So it was pretty quick.

It was like maybe a month. Like one night she went out, she came home, told me, oh, I fucked him and that we're in, she's in a relationship with him now. You guys sound like the worst communicators. And what happened? And then what did you say?

I mean, did you flip out? No. I just went, well, all right. Okay, I'm going to go out and do the same thing. And it's been difficult ever since. Now, are you? guys still together as husband and wife do you guys have any kids no no that's part of the coping thing too we just lost a subdaughter recently i just lost my stepdaughter recently that's why i'm really kind of cordial

with the boyfriend oh your wife had a child that she lost yes yes oh my goodness that's horrific and her only one i can't even imagine okay so you but you guys so how long has it been that this is your lifestyle I've been together 11 years What? You and your wife Have been married

Barely any sex Because you said the sex Went out the window Is she still banging you This whole of 11 years While she has this guy boyfriend? Not consistently But she throws you a bone

Every now and then? We haven't had sex In six years Okay So are you guys like roommates? Are you still married? Yeah, we're so married I actually, we split up for about, about a year.

Why did you decide to get back together? I mean, it doesn't sound like your time. I had some health problems. Okay, and she helped you out? Yeah. How old are you now? I am 51. She is turned 49 this year.

Okay, so she's still dating that guy. You guys are all friends? Like you just said, that guy came over. That was your wife's boyfriend. You're cool with him. We're cordial. We're not necessarily friends. We're cordial.

Uh-huh. And he knows that you're around. I mean, does she have an open relationship with him? Extensively, but she doesn't see anybody else. He's married. His wife doesn't know about it. What? Oh, my God.

This is now we're getting into Jerry Springer's, like, scenario, like, we're a territory. Wait. It's like, oh, my God, I can't even. Does she know you're calling into the show? No, not. I was going to tell her today after I talked. But I'm going to tell her I called into the show. Yeah, I would love her, side.

of things. Oh my God, can we get her on? I'll try. Do you think she'd be down to talk or? Maybe. Yeah, you know, I think you're not such a great communicator, you know? Like, so maybe if you do ask her, though, like, ask her, I'd love to have her on in her side of the story because it is super interesting. So she is with a guy.

She left you for another guy who has a wife who has no idea for the past 11 years. this guy has been seeing somebody else? Nope. She has no idea. They planned to see each other around the, her, his wife's work schedule. Wow. So they're both like having their cake and eating it too.

I mean, like she's got the perfect life. Like she's and the husband. Oh my God. And then you're over here like barely having sex. Oh, my God. They haven't had sex in six years. Okay. you haven't had sex with her in six years now

are you still in the lifestyle like do you go to swingers clubs ever like as a solo guy yes and how is that going for you i know it's harder as a solo guy it's it's really kind of difficult but i uh also have been in a couple of three sons with guys where me and a guy have had me and a guy played together so you get your rocks off that way have you gone any farther than like oral with guys yes twice and the first time it did not go well. I was with this guy with this girl and this guy

and this guy was hung like I don't know what. Oh my God. And when he basically he split me like a log and it did not fit and I was like nope, it's not happening. So we basically spent the evening doing oral. Okay. And lesson learned there is just because it fits your vagina. does not mean it fits my ass.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, too big. Yes. Okay. So then I met another girl and another guy. And that time, it wouldn't, guy. It was, I would say, almost nearly perfect. Mm-hmm. It basically got, I'm addicted to the feeling that that guy gave me that one time,

trying to get it back again. Right. it was very intense and I loved every second of it I never had a feeling like that before my life do you think you could ever possibly date a guy no I thought about it I even I thought about it to the point of you and try it but no I can't so you haven't found any females to date at all

since your girl no no women whatsoever I have one that I'm talking to it right now that she's married. She hasn't had sex in 10 years with someone. So I'm trying to work it out with her so I can see her, but nothing consistently. Wow.

It's so interesting that there's just all these people out there doing all this shit. Like here you have like all these married people entangled and all this crazy stuff. There's a lot of sex and no sex going around. I mean, do you know if you're a girl and that guy do like threesomes and stuff? Is she getting down like that with him?

or she really hung that hat up and doesn't do that kind of stuff with anyone. She kind of hung that hat up. He wants to it because he wants to watch her eat pussy. Yeah. But she's like, she tells him all the time

that she can have a threesome range in five minutes, but it will be with another guy. He's not interested in that. Oh, okay, but she doesn't want to bring home another girl for him. Nope. She's the more jealous of the girl thing

with her guys. Yes. Right. And does she, ever feel like that do you know if she's happy in that relationship with him that he has a wife like does you ever feel like she wants him to leave the wife and her be with him exclusively yes she does want him to leave the wife but hasn't told that to me but i just i know i know her right yeah i mean it's sad i mean i really hope that you're like out there really looking for somebody because you don't want to

be left high and dry if that ever does happen and she goes someplace else right i mean right now it sounds like you guys do have maybe like a friendship, I don't know, a roommate situation going on. I mean, you certainly don't have a, you're not getting your needs met from her as far as a relationship is concerned, correct? Yes. It's not, needs and I met at all at a relationship. And we, actually, this is the year is our 20th anniversary. Right.

But you really ended things like 10 years ago. Basically. Right? I mean, she's been dating somebody else. She barely has sex with you. you. We sleep in separate rooms and we don't, we're not even honest with each other about sex. She doesn't tell me when she has sex with them.

I don't assume they have sex every time they go out to each other. But I've told her before that not all sex is penetrative. I mean, she can talk to me about sex with him. It doesn't bother me. Yeah. I mean, obviously, you know. Isn't it weird? Some people, they just can't be honest no matter what.

But, like, look, you weren't being honest with her when you were with other people. Maybe she just feels weird telling you. Who knows? But she keeps that secret from you. Yes. Right. And it kind of bothers me, but, you know, that's her, that's the way she wants to do it. That's just the way it has to be.

Yeah. Maybe you guys stay together just like for, because you're paying half the bills and stuff. Like, is things split like that? Is that a part of it? Yeah. Right? I mean, you're both helping each other. Some of the bills don't pay half, but she makes way more money to me.

But, yeah. That's basically it. Right. And I don't think she wants to look. I mean, I've had some health problems of the last 10 years, and I don't think she wants to look like she's throwing me out on the street with the issues I've had. Right. So you're both, because listen, I know my YouTube community,

people are going to be going mental and being like, oh, how could she do this to the guy? And they're going to be saying all kinds of things. But, like, you're both getting something out of this arrangement that you have. I mean, she is taking care of you in a sense, right? until you maybe meet somebody else and you are able to be there you said she makes more than you so she's like helping support you she's taking care of you you're also cool with her because she just went through a very hard like loss and you guys are still like it sounds like friends and friendly and there is something you're both getting out of this or else one or both of you would have left

this situation yeah well i did leave for a year i moved out why did you go back because of the health Because my health. Right. You needed help. I couldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And how long ago was that? Probably two years ago. So two years ago, you left for a year and so you've been back with her for a little while. Was it hard going back or are you happier there or were you happier alone? I was happier alone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Even though I was alone. Yeah. I wasn't getting like the sexual action. I was thinking about getting. No one was banging out my door. or to come see me, but I was happier. Of course, because you don't have this thing hanging over your head. I mean, I feel like you were a little shafted in this scenario, right?

And because you're not having as much fun as her and she found someone, but you didn't when you opened up, you know, it must be difficult for you. I understand, you know, listen, I don't think she is an ideal situation either. I mean, she fell in love with a married guy and she can only see him on certain times. And then she's taking care of you. I mean, you know, it's not like anyone's living the life, okay? No. Right?

No. You were at one time. I mean, think about where you came from. I mean, you had this wife that you met. She was having all these gangbings. Everything was going down. You had action. You were cheating on her.

I mean, is it going to be okay for her? You're going to let her listen to this podcast. You talked about cheating on her. Yeah. You don't care if she hears that? Nope. Cheating on her a month. after we got married.

Does she know that now? Yes. Oh, okay. So you told her all this shit like afterwards? Yeah. How did she feel about it? I had the unique ability to turn around on her saying it was her fault that I cheated a month until marriage. At least you could admit that you manipulated that.

Like you did that just to take it off of you. How did you, what do you say? How did you do that? I was like, look, you were around more and did more, willing to do more things. I wouldn't have done it. And she was cool with that. She accepted that. But you know that that was like what you just said actually,

which I think is cool of you because it's very self-aware and honest, is that you turned it around even though that wasn't like the truth, right? You just used that. But that wasn't the truth. It was just you wanted that person at that time. So you just fucking did it, right? Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. At least you're honest about it because I think a lot of other people maybe wouldn't. But you were able to tell her that. she bought it. So it's okay if she listens to and hears it. I would love her side of this story. It would be really interesting to hear from her. So let her listen.

Let me know if she wants to come on. Thank you so much for calling in. It is a very interesting kind of crazy story. Yeah, it is. But, you know, it's disappointing to me because I have this mindset of I want to be in the lifestyle, but I really can't anymore. because it's not it's much fun because I miss the I think I really miss the sex

I miss the people I mean a lot of people you meet are fun exciting people and it's not pretentious like you go out places and I hang out with their coworkers and I hate my hanging out with the coworkers how they do is talk about work yeah no I have heard from so many people in the lifestyle that they wind up actually becoming you know all their vanilla friends follow by the wayside

and they make more friends in the lifestyle because the people happen to be super cool, fun, great people. Why can't you meet the, why can't you still be friends with those people? Like, why has that not been able to be something that you've kept up with if you're still go to the swingers club and stuff? Is it because you're older now and you just don't feel like you connect? Yeah, a motor. I'm older. Just don't connect.

And it's hard for me to get around because of my health issues. Oh, yeah, that sucks. That sucks. You know? So maybe it is time, like eventually. or like, you know, hopefully you can meet somebody to have like a real relationship with. Like, listen, I don't know what your health issues are. We're not going to get into it.

But maybe that's never going to go away or you're never going to be able to go back. I don't know. But so what would take the place of all that like sex and gangbags or anything? Like maybe if you got a real relationship again with somebody else, wouldn't that be nice for you? Is that something that you would like? I would like, but I'm not looking. I'm not, I don't think it's going to happen while I'm still married. Right.

Yeah. And I'm trying to throw gangbanks again. You know I can't get around as good as I is too. But finding that is difficult to do. Right. But if you're not working, I don't know if you're working, but I mean, you could make that your job. You could be a gang bank coordinator.

Yeah. That's what I want to do. You have the experience. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's your solution. I'm trying to figure, like, where do you get your happiness from? I feel a little bad for you. You know, you're kind of like in a place where

you're not really you haven't come out ahead yet you had a curve ball things didn't go your way you've had a tough time of things you know how do things turn around for you I thought maybe oh you mean a real you know I have a real relationship in your life

maybe not maybe it's you set up some gangbangs and you get back into that world and you find a place in a way that you could with your health issues coexist still doing that stuff that you love of being in a lifestyle yeah I I really I really would like to start throwing gangbangs again, but it's just it's difficult to find the women available for them.

Yeah, well, you want to put a shout out? Where do you live? You want to give out your site at your location. I'll forward you any emails I get. Any girls look at a do a gang bang. Greg will put one together for you. BBC only. BBC only.

That's who you know, right? I mean, you could get the guys, right? It's a matter of finding the girls? Yes. Interesting. Okay. Well, you should like do a put an example. ad out or something in Reddit

or whatever, you know, right? I'm unfet life. You are? Okay. Why don't you give a shout-out? What location are you in? Do you want to? I mean, I won't give out your email or anything. I'm in Michigan, so in the short area. All right, anyone in Michigan? You know of a girl that wants someone to put together

a gay one? Because listen, I think that they're very hard to put together. You need somebody to coordinate that and everything. So if anyone's in the Michigan area and you want a gang bang set up, Greg is ready and available to hook one off. for you. Maybe I'll try and get you a gig, a job. I feel for you, Greg. I want you to be back on top somehow. Oh, thank you. You know? It's a sad, it's not, listen, it's never the end, right? I mean,

everything is like a chap. Like, I'm talking to you and this is like where you're at right now, but, you know, you're still young. You're only in 50. You know, what's ahead for you? I'd love to know when things do turn around for you. And they will. They always do. And I just wonder, I'm, I'm hoping that for you. So keep me posted and get your girl on my show. All right. I will try. All right. Thank you for having me on.

Thank you, Greg. Thanks so much for calling in. No problem. Bye. Good luck with everything. Thank you. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly

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