Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 617 - Rocky Hooks Up with Couples, Married Women, Trans Women and More Behind his Wife's Back

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

Rocky hooks up with couple, married women, trans women and more all behind his wife’s back and he called in to talk all about it. When did he start cheating on his wife? Why does he cheat on his wife? And, Where does he meet all these people he cheats on her with? Tune in to hear all the details including the sexual abuse he encountered when he was a child by his male cousin as well as a stranger at a grocery store, how and when he started acting out sexually, the inappropriate relationship he had with his mothers friend who was 50 years old when he was just 16 and how long that lasted, how and why he believes he has a sex addiction, how things started out with his wife, when, how and why they stated swinging and why that eventually stopped, how he became a bull to many couples via Craigslist early on, how he then tarted hooking up with trans women and why he enjoys that the best, the famous trans porn star he hooked up with in Vegas, the trans escort he saw who eventually stated seeing him for free, all the unsatisfied married women he slept with and where he met them all, the ex girlfriend he recently met up with through Facebook and how they feel about each other, how him and his wife barely have sex and how he feels about her now, how he has tried to get her back into swinging and why she’s not down for it, whether or not he thinks she’s cheating on him, how he once got a private detective to follow her and what he found out, how he feels about all his cheating and what he’s done to fix his marriage, why sex addiction classes didn’t work for him, how and why he sees a therapist anyhow often he goes, where he hides all his stuff so he doesn’t get caught plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Santerport or Thailand. You can't not do it.

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Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, either go to my website, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at Gmail.com, or go, did I say, or go to my website, Strictly Anonymous Podcast.com and click on Be on the Show. If you just have a a naughty confession that you want to leave on my confessions hotline. You could do that too. I air all those on my Patreon. I changed the voices as well over there. That number is 347, 4203579. 347, 4203579. Today I have on a guy named Rocky. Rocky's story is so good.

I mean, he really didn't tell me a lot of the backstory in his email. He told him. He told me more that he's you know he told me mostly about all of his cheating that he was doing uh he cheats on his wife he's one of those that cheats on his wife with men women couples trans women guys you name it he's been there he's done that and he's doing it still to this fucking day okay but in the beginning when he started off i mean he put it right out there that he feels like he's a sex addict and then he talked about some like horrifying experiences that happened to them to him. And I'm so glad that he did start with it because I think it's always important for people to understand that most of the time when you're hearing somebody, somebody's story like Rocky who's so hypersexual

and can't fucking get enough and his very insatiable desire for sex with anyone and everyone. you know, you're most likely talking about somebody who does have trauma from their past that created this kind of acting out. Because I believe it's acting out. He put it out there when you hear the stuff that happened to him. It's like fucking horrifying. Unfortunately, when I put out episodes and people do bring up stuff like this, I get so many emails of people saying same shit happened to them.

People can relate because unfortunately really horrifying things like what he talks about happened to a lot of people. It's horrifying. So we talk about that first, the stuff that went down, and then we talk about when he lost his virginity. He started acting out sexually. You won't believe who we had an affair with for like his whole fucking life, which started at 16. It was another inappropriate relationship. It turned, I guess, appropriate. I don't know. You got to hear that one. He starts with that. And then he eventually meets his wife and they get married. And at one point, him and his wife were like fucking swinging and she was going down on girls he loves eating pussy she loves eating pussy they lived a great life at that time it was the only time they ever not cheated on her uh and when

he saw her banging another guy he was like i'm fucking into that um but they eventually stopped swinging and then he went back to cheating and like i said before he cheats on her with everybody he started out with women and then he started seeing couples and then he got a blowjump from one of the husbands and then he was like fucking guys and then he was really into trans woman and then he fucked his favorite porn star trans woman T.S. Foxy? Google T.S. Foxy. Okay, she's hot. He's seen her a bunch of times.

He is a professional, like, what would you say? Like a server of married women. He has seen more, and cheated with, more married women in his lifetime than most people. Him and his wife barely have any sex at all. We talk a lot about that. like is she cheating? I don't know. You got to hear about the relationship. I mean, he really loves

her and everything else in the relationship is pretty much okay. But he is doing all this stuff behind her back. She's never found out. He does see a therapist. And that's it. I don't know. You got to hear the whole story. It's super interesting. He's very open and honest about all of his stuff. So You're going to love this episode. It's super interesting. So I'm going to be right back on with Rocky. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?

Good, Kathy. Thank you very much. And I just wanted to say I really, really, really, really enjoy your show. I'm on the road a lot for work. Uh-huh. And I am addicted to your podcast. I found it a couple of weeks ago. I think I've blown through about 50 of them now.

Oh, my God. I love that. What are your favorite? Like, what topics are your faves? I mean, I try to go along with, I try to go along with how naughty I am. So I love your, your cheating podcast, your, your, your hot wife podcast, your, your, your, your, your, uh, your cuck stuff because I've been, I've been, I'm not a cuck myself, but have been in a bull situation. So. Oh, yeah.

I know. We got to get into your story because you are what I would say, like the bottom of the barrel cheater. You are 100% correct. The worst kind of cheater around. Because I really think that there is a vast spectrum of cheating. And, you know, not all cheaters are the same. You can definitely not lump them all up into one category. And there's so many different reasons why people cheat.

By the time your episode airs, I will have already aired a woman cheater who is just as bad, it sounds like, as you. You know, the kind of cheater that. is just, it's almost like impulsive, addictive kind of, you know, cheating scenario. And I have a feeling that yours is going to be a little bit in line with her. I feel like maybe you guys are going to like, you know, want to date afterwards after you listen to hers. But let's get into your story, Rocky. All right.

All right. So kind of go back to how I'm probably a sex addict. I started having orgasms at a very, very, very young age before I even could ejaculate. Yeah. And my very, my very first sexual experience, I think it was nine or ten years old, and it was with my cousin. So I would sleep over. He's about four years older than me. Oh, it's a he.

Yeah. Yeah, it was a he. But I didn't get back into doing stuff with guys until much later. But I happen to be sleeping over at his house. And I wake up to something warm and moist and feeling really good on my cock. and it was him just stuck in my cock. Wow. Wait, how old was he? He was, if I was nine, he was 13.

If I was 10, he was 14. I can't really remember the exact. But he was older. He was much more in the know than you. Oh, that's, oh, yeah. He was a freshman in high school. It's not like you guys were two little six-year-olds, not knowing what the fuck you were doing.

This guy is at an age where he knows what's going on with sex, but you really don't. 100% Okay Yeah because I mean I didn't know it then But I can specifically remember You know getting

You know very sensitive And wanting him to stop because it What I categorize is hurt But I was having an orgasm I didn't know this Yeah that's that kind That's why that kind of stuff is so fucked up Because you're wiring

You get wired in like the worst way possible Right? Because Exactly Yeah I mean, you were molested. That's like, that's what it's called. That's the word for it.

Yeah, exactly right. And then was actually molested by a stranger. After that? Yeah, I went to the grocery store with my parents like I always do. I would stand. I would usually go into toys. They would go to the produce and then they would work their way to me. And, you know, back in the day when you weren't afraid to leave your kid,

your eight or nine or ten-year-old kid alone in a grocery store. and I remember what like was yesterday. A guy comes up, he was grabbing the toys that I was grabbing, tells me that, hey, I know a place where I can have a bunch of toys for you in a big box for free. So like a dumbass. No, no, no, no, no. I hate that you say that, but I know why you say that,

but you're not a dumbass. You're like, you know, you're a normal kid. But, you know, I can specifically remember that the pit in my stomach as we walked out of the grocery store, thinking this isn't right. I shouldn't be doing this. And so he takes me behind. I just have to say, though,

but you're still not walking out there because you're, it's not because you're dumb that you continue on. It's because you're a fucking child and this is an adult and you were told like to listen to adults. You know, I mean, it's not coming from like, you're fucking dumb. Yeah.

No, I hear you. I mean, not just important, you know, for you to know. I think it's, it's, I get why you see it that way. And that's the, the hardest thing about those kind of scenarios, that it's, you don't put them in their proper place. You think you, you caused it. That's what always happens.

That's what the victims always feel. And it causes a lifetime of fucking trauma. You got it. And the scary thing about it is, you know, I could have been one of those kids that was killed. Yeah. There was a heck a lot older. And, you know, forcing his, forcing his cock.

into my mouth. Oh my ass. It was. In your ass? Oh, yeah. Like, I couldn't. I was literally shitting blood for like three days. And I never told, I never told my mom or dad ever.

Oh, my God. How old were you? I was 10 years old. Wait, so how did he get you back into the place and back with your parents without anyone fucking knowing? It's funny because he, he had, he put these two tent speeds. these two 10-speed boxes up against the back of the wall of the grocery store and the big dumpster. So we were kind of in this little fort behind the dumpster and then two 10-10-speed bike boxes.

And so if someone would have walked by or someone to roll by, they would have hurt us because I was screaming and crying or whatever. So he says, he says, I'm going to leave now. And after I put this up, count to 20, and then you can go back. So I remember I ran into, almost got hit by a car running to the parking lot into back in the grocery store. And I remember my jacket. I had a little jacket on and I had, he had unbuttoned it obviously because I was naked. And the first thing my mom says when I come in the grocery store is, why did you unbutton your coat? And so I was getting hot.

You know, quick thinking on my feet at that young. And I never, she still to this day doesn't know that this happened. Oh, God. I mean, I feel like as a mom, you know, if she found out, it would be double the trauma for her because as a mom, A, you would feel horrified that your child experienced that. And then B, you'd feel horrified that your child took it on and never told you and you didn't know and you didn't realize. You know what I mean? Like, that's like some fucking heavy shit. Yeah, it's crazy.

So that kind of gets you it to where. No, but could we just stay there for a second, though? Sure. Because I can't tell you how many times these little things are thrown into the beginning of a lot of my episodes, you know, this kind of thing. And then I get a lot of emails from people saying, oh, my God, I related to that. That happened to me, too. I've never told anyone about it. I mean, it is more common than people think.

What I want to know is, I mean, those are two horrifying experiences. One is just worse than the other. And you never told your parents. Did you ever tell anyone? I did. So many, many, many, many years ago when I was probably married about seven, eight years, my wife caught me off guard and said, hey, were you ever sexually abused? And, you know, my wife is extremely, could tell me, we've known each other for a long time

so she could see my face of my paws. and so she was the first person I ever told. So I told her and then, you know, through various psychiatrists and therapists, I've told them too as well. Okay. So you've worked through it a little bit or as much as possible. I mean, did you? And so you always had the memory, right?

It wasn't like it came back to you. You remembered it at the time when it happened from that moment on, right? It wasn't like repressed and then it came out. That is great. I never blacked out. I never put it down. It was always prevalent in my head. You know what they say, and it's very true, and I believe this, is that the people that repress

and don't have any memory, but they're like, I know something must have happened because, you know, all the signs are there, is you're more likely to repress it if it's something that happened repeatedly over a long time, as opposed to, like, your situation where it was, like, two separate specific occasions, you know, you're more likely to remember, and I don't know if it's better or worse to remember. I think it's both fucking awful, you know. But I think the people that repress, and a lot of times those come out later,

is because it was something that happened repeatedly. Yep. Right? Yeah. So, okay, so I wonder why your wife asked you that. I'm assuming there are signs in your life from that trauma that she was picking up on. I don't remember what we were talking about what was going on.

It wasn't just out of the, hey, honey, how you doing? Hey, have you ever been abused? We were talking about something. We had been watching a movie maybe where something came up and maybe my reaction to what was happening. I don't really recall, but I do remember the question and my hesitation to answer. And she picked up on it really quick. Right. And then after you told her, did that change anything between you and her?

Or was it just like a conversation and then never? to be talked about again? No, it, I mean, it comes up every now and then, but just as a, just in, in conversation, I'm, I may, probably going to, you know, I'm a big brother, big, I'm in the big brother, big sister program.

Uh-huh. And my first, my first little brother was abused quite a bit sexually and physically. So, um, we talk about it a lot because I, I can somewhat relate.

Wait, who was he? Who was he abused by? He was abused by his, he went in a foster care. He was abused by his foster, you know, brothers or sisters, whatever you want to call it. Many different foster parents. He was abused by his dad. It was just, it was just really, really bad. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

It's not like you got to look hard to find somebody that was abused in the way, unfortunately. They say it's like one and every four, you know, and maybe more than that. I don't know because that's like horrible. So you talk to him a lot about it. And he came clean first. Oh, well, he knows,

he knows, I knew about his story from when you get signed up and go through the background check and everything. And then and then, you know, I just waited for him to open up about it. What a kind of, I mean, you know, in a weird way, it is a kind of perfect match that you guys found each other, don't you think?

Yeah, it's pretty cool. Unfortunately, he was taken away a couple of months ago. His mom lost custody of him, so he went back into foster care. How old is he? He's 12. And now, can you contact him? Do you keep in contact with him, or you're not allowed to? Like, how does it work? No, not allowed to.

It's over, and it breaks my heart every day. I think about that poor kid every day. That's terrible. How long were you with him for? Three months. Oh, it was a short time, but it was, I mean, you know, because it could have been a very healing relationship for the both of you to, you know, have somebody that could understand you, you know?

I mean, in some way he could be, he was like a mirror for you. You're an older person that went through what he did, that he could talk about this stuff too. You know, it's sad that you guys weren't able to keep that connection. Maybe somehow you'll make your way back to each other. I don't know. He's messed up kid. Well, of course. How could you not be?

And you're a messed up from the shit that happened to you because you're a massive cheater. So let's get to your story. Yeah, I'm probably would be messed up no matter what. But yeah, pretty messed up. No, no, I don't think so. No. It's things like this that make you the way you are. And that's why I just think that these stories are so important.

Like recently that fucking Army Hammer guy, you know, who was in the news for all this BDSM shit. and all these girls came out and then he came out and was like, listen, this is the shit that happened to me and everyone was so rude about it. Like, oh, fuck him, that's no excuse. It's like, it's not that it's an excuse, but this is the reason why people do shit like that. People don't just do shit like that or act out as crazy as you're doing for no reason. Like seriously, even a narcissist who happened to, like, they're like bottom of the barrel as far as like, you know, disorders are concerned.

Even they are like people that were massively abused to get to that. that point. People aren't born narcissists. People aren't born fucking massive cheaters like you. Uh-uh. We're all born pretty perfect and, you know, things are put upon us. And some people are dealt a way harder deck of, like a way harder, what is that called? Like a deck of hand, a hand, like, you know, a card of hands, a hand of cards. What is that fucking called? Yeah, a bad deck of cards. Yeah, bad deck of cards. I was right at first. You know, and the people that are, those are all the people that are doing fucked up things. And I like to do my show because I think you always have to hear someone's whole story.

And you cannot take out the stuff that happened to you. You were fucking raped in a fucking forest screaming. Your ass was bleeding. Like that is the reason why you're doing all this shit. Okay. If those things with your cousin and that guy didn't happen, uh-uh, you wouldn't be who you are today. You wouldn't. You know what I'm saying? So like I said, it's not an excuse. There's choices that we make in life, you know, but there's some heavy fucking baggage that people are walking around with. And some baggage is way harder. So all these judgmental people that are going to judge you from all the cheating we're going to talk about, you know, I do believe it's because of that stuff. And that kind of trauma is very hard to work through. It could take your whole lifetime if you ever can. You know what I mean? I hear you. I hear you. I hear you.

Now, when did you start acting out sexually? So I lost my virginity. I was a 13 years old to a 16-year-old girl. And then, you know, all throughout high school, when I turned 16, I was able to drive my younger sister, she's quite a number of years younger than me. So we always had a babysitter at her house. So I'd go out with my friends in high school and there would be a babysitter. and then I would take the babysitter,

I would take the babysitter home. And she was a daughter of my mom's really good friend. And I would, my mom's friend one day was really drunk. And I was dropping off the babysitter. And she invites me in, you know, here, you know, I got some leftover food and, you know, end up, the two of us end up having sex. Oh, my God, I can't, I knew you were going there.

I can't even handle this. Wait a second. And we literally, so, so this started at 16. And she was in her 50s at the time. Oh my fucking God. I had, I had sex with her for the next 20 years until she, until she had got cancer in her, in her 70s. Was she married? No, she was divorced. Okay, so she's single.

She's in her 50s. looks at a 16 year old kid and is like I want to fuck him yeah it was uh it was it was it was crazy but I will say and she basically I obviously was her boy toy for for a long time and and and she basically taught me everything everything that I do sexually now she taught me how to be an aggressive pleaser she taught me how to eat pussy the right way she taught me how to be gentle to start off for anal sex and she she taught she taught me everything so imagine imagine as a 16 17 18 year old kid and then you go to college and you are a you are a unselfish lover you you you're pleasing you you get pleased by pleasing women yeah when when a college kid is is and

result is to get his dick in somebody you know my that's the last resort for me i i love i love eating pussy. Right. I absolutely love it. And so, and so I would make these college girls go absolutely crazy because I was focused on them. And, you know, the rest of the guys that they've been with are always focusing on themselves. Totally. And so I met, I met, obviously, I met my wife in college. So we've been together. We've been married for 25 years. We've been together for 31 years. And, you know, I was only the second person that she'd ever been with. And the, the, the, the, person she lost her virginity with was terrible. So a cheater and a guy that, you know, didn't give a shit about anyone but himself.

And so, so I came along, obviously, and, you know, we, we were, we were great together. And the sex was fantastic. You know, she would, she would give me head. We would do all kinds of stuff, all kinds of crazy stuff. And then we get married and everything kind of stopped. and you know I don't know about other men but you know the sex drive that you have in your 17, 18, 19

it hasn't changed I'm 50 years old, it hasn't changed. I might even be worse than I was when I was a teenager. I mean my sex drive is just through the absolute roof. Yeah, but I personally, okay, this is what I think and you know, maybe some doctors are going to write in and be like, you're fucking wrong, Kathy. But my opinion of that, and I do my scientific studies with a very

very small group, you know. This is like from the people that I know. The people that are still psychotically horny, the men like in their 50s are men that I know that are still operating from a place of intense trauma. And I believe that is like an, it's like an energy thing that is sort of misdirected and it all goes there. Do you know what I mean? But it's almost like an issue. because I think the guy without trauma, the normal guy isn't like that. It's almost like being hypersexual. Does that make sense? I agree with that.

I know one other guy that's like that and it's doctor guy and he's been on my show and I know about his fucking childhood. It wasn't normal and he could still fuck five times a day. I think there's something going on there. Same with you and I'm sure you could agree. Like you already called yourself a sex addict at the beginning. So I think that there is an addiction kind of a thing there. So, you know, when that is needed to be in place to keep that addiction going, you're going to create that energy.

And that sex drive is going to stay there because you need it. It's a way of checking out for you. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that 100%. Yeah. So you're still super horny. And now when did like, so those sex in the beginning with your wife was all good. Good, correct? Like it was great. Okay.

It was great. And then, and then of course, you know, you go through the cycle where you have a couple of kids. We have two kids. And we moved around a couple of times. Uh-huh. And so for a while it was just us and the kids. And the sex obviously goes pretty stagnant when you're raising a couple of young children. 100%. Yeah. And so we, this is the only time that I almost got caught. Mm-hmm. I had put a, I had put a profile on adult friend finder at this time. Mm-hmm. And I, like I said, I traveled a lot.

And so what I, my thing was, I would search the state or the city that I was going to be in. And, you know, a week or so before and started having some conversations with some women. And I was going to be there three days. I tried to set up a time to be in. with three different women on those three days. So it's the kind of person I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then she had, I had rushed out one day and I left my history up and she saw the

adult friend finder. She didn't see my profile, but she kind of saw where I was looking and what I was doing. And it actually turned her on, which was weird. She said, you know, I've always wanted to be with another woman and, you know, I see a lot swingers on here. Why don't we, why don't we try to be with other people? I'm like, separately or together? Yeah. It's like, no, together. Yeah. So I can remember the first time we, we go to this swingers club. It's like a bring your own beer, bring your own beer, or bring your own liquor, bring your own beer. And you register as a couple. We go in. And I can just remember as we're,

as we're signing these forms and paying our fee to get in, to hear the music on the other side of the and the two of us are nervous and how are we getting into. And we didn't do anything that night. We just walked around and it was great. And then we came home and just attacked each other. And then we put up a profile on SLS. And, you know, immediately right away, we met a couple. We went out to dinner with them.

And then they kind of forced the issue. You know, we were very, we weren't making any moves. we weren't, you know, telling any one of us to come back to their house. We went, they invited us back to their house. And, you know, he took, he took my wife into one room and she took me into another room. And I can hear, I can hear what was going on. And I said, you know what, this is the first time that I'm ever doing this. Can I, you mind if I get up and take a look?

And I just was, I absolutely was just, I loved it. I loved seeing her. She's riding him. and I just watching my wife get fucked by another guy was unbelievable. I absolutely loved it. Yeah, interesting.

And so for the next for the next I would say year sex life was great. We were getting with other people. We had we had such good made such good friends with a couple of couples that we would swing with. We started bringing them into

our vanilla friends. Yeah, I hear this all the time. It's like the coolest people you meet there. right? Yeah, and they're all like, how do you guys meet? I'm like, oh, we work. Our kids go to the same. Our kids go to the same daycare. We got to see them all the time. So, so yeah, and then, and then we moved again. So we moved to another place and we tried to pick up the swinging there, but the place that we moved to was a hell of a lot smaller than we were originally and you get to see the same people and it was just not, it wasn't for us. So that, so then everything died down. The couples weren't, we weren't having success with couples.

And so then I, and during that time that we were, we were swinging, I did not, I did not cheat once. I worked, like I said, I had the same job. I worked several different cities, several different states, and I did not cheat once. I wasn't looking for it. I didn't put up any profiles. I didn't do anything. So. But before that, were you cheating?

What's that? Before that you were cheating, though. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. And so I, when we, when we moved. this time, we didn't, we didn't, sex wasn't good or sex wasn't, we weren't, she wasn't, she was turning me down left and right. And so I had, I had picked it up again. I, we both

traveled a lot during that time. So when she was out, that meant I could go, when she was out of town, that meant I can go and do whatever I wanted during the course of the day. Like, there was, there would be times where I put ads on Craigslist and, uh, the kids were at school. I work from home and I would have you know women come into my house constantly we never you know we never went in our in our bed I know oh you're so uh you're so I know that makes me so polite that I didn't fuck anyone in our bed where would you do it uh in the basement we come in the basement we come in the basement and and and so at one of uh at a conference I was at I had put out a Craigslist ad and a couple contacted me and wanted me to be with the, be with the wife.

Oh, he watched. And so they asked me to get tested so that didn't have any SDDs. And like, I'm not, I'm not wearing a condom. And like, no, we'll get tested. Let's all get tested together. And I said, all right, I'll do this. One of the very few times that I ever did anything like that. And so I'm with the wife.

We're in a hotel room. We're in my hotel room. I'm with the wife. And, you know, she's sitting on my face. And he starts sucking my cock. Oh, and that's your first experience with a guy this time? Yes. Yeah.

So he starts sucking my cock. And it was pretty darn good. And, you know, I let it happen. And he, of course, wanted me to come inside her and he cleaned it up. And then he said, hey, before you leave, I'd love to give you a blow job. before you go. And I'm like, you know what? That was actually really good.

Let me, I think I'm going to check that out. So he came to my hotel the next morning and blew me. And then I got into this whole other world of now I can be with males and females. And I'm not attracted to guys, if that makes sense. But I do. I have become very, very attracted to cock. Yeah. And guys give this wonderful blowjobs.

My goodness. Yeah, I've heard other guys say that before. Good God. Yeah. So, and through all that, you know, I would go into some, you know, bathhouses. I'd go to the adult video stores with the arcades and theaters and glorials. Now, it's few and far between. I don't usually, usually if I, if I've, my luck has run out trying to find a woman.

in the places that I'm at when I travel, then I'll just hit up a glory hole or... Yeah, one of those places. Yeah. Plenty of guys out there willing to suck a married guy's cock. Yeah. Oh, my God. And so, you know, I would go, like,

we would have a national sales conference in Vegas quite a bit. And this was the very first time that I, had been with a transsexual. Yeah. So there's a very famous porn star who, you know, and I do, I did get into watching some trans porn. Yeah. I still do and I love it. It's actually, actually the trans women that I've been with has been the best experiences.

So I was in Vegas at a sales conference and I, one of my, one of my favorite porn stars in the world was on eros.com, the escort site. Yeah. Who's the famous porn star? Can you give the name? Yeah. T.S. Foxy. Okay.

T.S. Foxy? Yeah. Okay, cool. Go on. She's not in Vegas anymore. She's in Tucson. But she doesn't, she does only fans now. So she doesn't do escort stuff. Yeah.

But, but yeah, it was, I called her up. and we set a time. I had to do all these pre-screen stuff. And, you know, walking, walking to her apartment and her opening the door and seeing the person that I've jerked off to, you know, for the last several years, it was just unbelievable. Wow. Okay. I'm looking at T.S. Foxy. Okay.

Now, this is a trans woman, right? Yes. Yeah. I mean, very passable. Really fucking curvy, hot, like Latina looking, right, woman? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know tons of guys that if I just showed him her pig, they'd be like, I'd fuck that in an instant.

She's, she was wonderful. And so I would, I would go to Vegas probably three, four times a year. Mm-hmm. And, and would look her up. And, you know, if I, if I wasn't married with kids, I would, I would actually go and try to be in her only fans because I just, I couldn't get enough for her. Let me ask you this. Now, when you're with a trans woman, are you interested? interested in the trans woman that still has a cock, I would assume, because you like that too. Is that why it's so great because it's best of both worlds? Or do you like trans women that have fully transitioned? I haven't been with a fully transitioned woman, but, you know, I love, I love when I am, oh, when, when, when I'm on top, or I'm, say, I'm standing, standing off the bed and, and, and the trans woman is on her. back and and I'm and I'm and I'm and her hard cock is bouncing on my stomach. Oh wow puts me right

out right so you right so that's and and T.S. Foxy's got that how much did you cost did I ask you that? No she was 400 bucks. Okay 400 and wow that was like a great fine because here you are like this was like your fave porn star before right and all of a sudden she's like right there and you could just like hang out with her it was yeah it was amazing. And she could tell I was a little starstruck, too. But, you know, I've probably been with her about 10, 10 times. Okay. I don't go to Vegas.

Like I said, she's not in Vegas anymore. And there's no reason for me to go to Tucson. But I said, I know she doesn't do that. And then just now within the last year, there was another escort, trans women escort that I was seeing. and it was so good for her that I see her once a month and I don't have to pay anymore. Why? Because you guys like are really just into each other? Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. I mean, where did you mean her? She was on Eros as well. Now is she in your town or someplace where you travel to? She is in the, she's not in my town, but she's in the same area. She's probably about a half hour away from where I live. How many times did you see her before she was like, you don't got to pay?

Three times. That's it? I mean, what do you get great hat? Like, how did you score that? Are you hot? I mean, I know I'm a terrible person, but I'm pretty freaking good at what I do. You know, I've, before Craigslist went, before Craigslist went out, man, I had them lining lining up and mostly married women whose sex life went south with their husband.

And I'm not I'm not trying to be a bragging asshole, but more than once after they come from me going down on them, they're in tears because they haven't come like that in, you know, two decades. Yeah. And it doesn't matter what age, you know, in their 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, you know, they, I just knock them out with my tongue. Right. Because you love it and you're a pleaser.

And that's like you, that's, you started to as that guy. I mean, that's how, when you were 16, right? Exactly. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And I, and, and, you know, I've got repeat folks from the states that I've lived in when I go to those states for various travel. Like I've, I've, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been with another wife in another state for over 20 years. I have one who she was going through a divorce when she responded to my Craigslist ad.

And she's since been married and got divorced again. But I always see her when I'm in town or when she's, she's in, she comes here every now and then. We, we, we find a way to see each other in a couple other states. where I have met women, you know, they're just a short text away when I'm in the town. Hey, I'm coming into town. Literally just went to, went to a city two weeks ago. And I had texted the wife of someone who I cheated on when I was last in this city and said, hey, I'm going to be here.

It's been a while. It's been a couple of years. And she came to my hotel after work. And so I, you know, one of my friends, One of my friends, the one person that kind of knows the stuff that I do, he said, I should have been some type of crazy escort because you're providing the service to these unsatisfied wives who ask you to be a repeat customer. Right. And you service them for a long time. I mean, a lot of these people, like you say, you've been seeing them for years off and on. the one that the one that i just just went to uh that just met up with a couple of weeks ago uh says that every time we every time we get together no one does things to the put my pussy like

you do ever so but most of the women that you find that you're meeting online and hooking up with on the d l are married women pretty much about 95 percent right and and and when, you know, if they're not, then, you know, they're bringing their husband. All right. How many more couples have you done? I mean, I know you told me about that first couple. Do the couples thing becomes a big thing in your life, too? I do it.

I do it all the time. All the time. Wow. And where do you meet them? The Dublist, it's the new website. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to meet females on that site is few and far between. Yeah.

It's mostly every time I place an ad these days, it's always guys. Hey, if you want to, I'm staying at a hotel, dark room, a mouth is a mouth. And I'm like, no, I'm really, you don't have a vagina. Wait, where do you meet the married women? I know you said Ashley Madison, do you meet them over there? Like, where are you getting all these married women? Tinder. Tinder.

Oh, interesting. That's where they are looking? Tinder and Reddit. And Reddit? I never dreamed that it would be something like Reddit, but there's a whole like groups that you can join and people just post like Facebook and say, hey, I'm 50 years old.

I'm going to be in this town. Anybody want to hook up? And it's amazing how many people actually want to hook up. Wow. Now, have you had any affairs with any of these people? Like, do you cross that line with anyone? Or is, you know, that strictly for your wife? You know, my goal was always to try to just get one individual.

And I've had a couple of them. One, before we moved, before our last move, I had one exclusive that I was seeing. She was married. No kids. and easily worked in the same town that I lived in. So during travel, she was at my house a lot. And then we moved. And then we moved and that obviously wasn't going to work.

But I have just, I actually have rekindled a old relationship that I had prior to meeting my wife. She had gone to the same school. We had dated for a few months. And then she left school to transfer to another school to be closer to her family, take care of her dad. And so I would always, I always follow her, creep her on Facebook and creep her on Instagram just to see how she was doing. Because she was great. We were really, really good together. And one, I got one drunken evening, I got the courage to a private messenger on Instagram and said, you know, hey, how are you doing?

It's been a while. and I said, hey, let's just meet for lunch. And she said, no, that's going to be a bad idea because I want to kiss you. And I'm like, what's wrong with that? And I said, okay, you know, no problem. And the next day, it's like, let's definitely meet. So we actually met for dinner. It was perfect timing.

My wife was traveling for work. And, you know, my kids are older. So, you know, I go to work dinners and work functions all the time. And we meet and we ended up having sex in her car. and I've been having sex with her. It's been seven, eight months now. Mm-hmm. And we are, it's crazy.

From Facebook and everything, it looked like she had a wonderful relationship. Mm-hmm. But it couldn't be further from the truth. That's what I call fake book, I think, is the word. That's 100% right. So, I mean, we get hotels during the day. We go in this parking garage that's close to her work.

I've had sex more in a car in the last four or five months than I've had my entire life. Because you're fucking her all the time. Yeah. Now are you guys falling for each other? It was falling a long time ago. I mean, we were in love back then. It's kind of never really slowed down.

She's a very passionate individual like I am. And has an insane. She's kind of a horrid just like me. And so our sex drive is matched. Yeah. Interesting. Now, what's like, what is, if I was talking to her and she was telling me that she's fucking you in the car, would she say what you said about her like, oh, this guy, you know,

he looks like he has a great marriage, but his marriage is in the shitter. Like, I mean, how do you view your marriage? You see, that's the, that's the thing that is weird about all this, right? My wife is literally my best friend. We go everywhere. We do things together. I enjoy her company. She enjoys my company.

You know, there's no one that I'd rather go out of vacation with. There's no one rather I'd go to any sporting events where, you know, she's a wonderful, wonderful human being. Very high up in her company. And the two of us are inseparable. Has a sex. You know, when it's pretty non-existent, except for about once a quarter, when I'm least expecting it. Like, last month, it was during work hours, and she just comes to my office. And then we went ahead on the floor in my office, and it was great.

And then, you know, the next day, try to pull her panties off and try to go down on her, and she pushes me away. And says, no, I'm not tonight. So then I don't try. But other than that, our relationship is great. Like, she's a wonderful mother. She's a wonderful person. She's the smartest individual I know. And it's just...

Did it ever recover after the kids, or has it been bad all this time? And you guys just never even talk about it? We've gone to counseling a couple of times. You know, when we were swinging, man, not only were we having sex with others, but the sex between us was just great. And, and, you know, when she would go to work, when she would travel for work, I'm like, you know,

meet some stranger at the bar. You have them fuck you and video it for me. Take pictures. Yeah. But, you know, she doesn't want to get killed or traffic or anything like that. So she's very hesitant to do something like that. But yeah, no, I would love,

I would love to get a thing going where she and I would go, I would love to take her to an adult video store and have her suck all these anonymous cocks through the holes and put a condom on it and back her ass up into it as well. I would absolutely love for it. But that's not the type of person she is. She doesn't pleasure herself. She doesn't have any interest.

She doesn't watch porn. Yeah, but listen to me. Okay. Okay, listen. This is the same woman that you were surprised when she saw your adult friend finder that she got fucking horny for it. And then she went to a swingers club and fucked other guys in front of you. I mean, she was down.

She has a part of herself that is there. I don't know why it goes in hiding and you, though, see her as the woman that you just explained because she doesn't sound like that person from what she's done. And, you know, the person that knows all the stuff that I do, Yeah. She's got a, she's got a relationship with someone. I'm like, no, that's not the case. If she did, then I would, she would be okay to tell me.

I would love for her to have a relationship. I said, I said, go out and get yourself a 25-year-old guy that just fucks you silly. Yeah, but she would, listen, if she, it doesn't matter that you say that. She still wouldn't tell you if she's fucking somebody else. I'm just telling me. No, no, no, I know. I know. But I, but she doesn't, she doesn't lie.

She doesn't know how to lie. Mm-hmm. And I've asked her. I said, you know, are you? you not having sex with me because you're having sex with someone else. I said, just tell me. Let's get it out in the open. Let's talk about it.

And I said, no, no. And I know this because she doesn't do anything. She doesn't go anywhere. She doesn't go out. How old is she? She's 50 as well. Okay. And is she in menopause?

Do you think it's like a hormone thing that it's like going away for her, like her sex drive? You know, I asked if she had, you know, to check out maybe if she had a whole. hormone balance, everything. No, a hormone imbalance, no. She still gets her period? She does. She's starting to, she's starting to feel different. She's definitely going through the change. Yeah. But no, she still gets her period. Right. But she's not as horny before. But how long ago did your sex life go out the window? Because, you know, we went all the way back to like it went south when you had kids. But that was a long time ago. I mean, did it ever recover after the kids or was it bad from then until now?

It recovered when we were swing. Right, but then, but that was a very short time. So I'm saying, like, have you guys just been fucking four times a year for the past 15 years? Pretty much, yeah. And you think that, you know, four times a year is enough for her? I'm telling you, as a woman, when you were in your 40s, right before you start to, your sex drive goes out the window, you're hornier than you ever have been in your whole life. that's what I that's what I mean she might be having sex with a girl and she just doesn't want to tell you

did she ever did she ever have sex with any women when you did go to the swingers club because she did cop to wanting that did she ever get to experience that oh yeah we um she she she she loves eating pussy too yeah i saw her i saw her literally pop pop two two women's eyeballs out the back of her head because she's good at she was and we um we had went on uh one of our anniversaries. I took her to this place and they they had this little band. There was an outdoor patio type thing and I and in a matter of like 15 minutes I picked up this this 24 year old woman to bring back to our room and and I just stepped back for a while. I watched the two of them go at it for a little while and it was it was great but that's really the last time that that we kind of

did anything like that. Right but that was a long time ago right? That was in 2013. Have you ever brought that up with her? Have you ever pushed to get back into the lifestyle or to, like, I know that you say, oh, I've told her, go get a thing, but it sounds like it's not a serious conversation. I mean, have you ever really sat down and had serious conversations with her about maybe you guys getting back in together to rejuv and, like, you know, revive your sex life? Yeah, I've asked to go back on SLS. Yeah. I've asked to join some, I've asked to join some of our area swingers.

club. Okay. And I've asked, I've asked to do, you know, she's got, she's got beautiful feet and I've got, I've got somewhat of a foot fetish. I said, let's, let's put your feet, just put your feet on the, on the only fans and let's get some content, make some money. Yeah. And, you know, I'm always taking pictures of her feed and, and, you know, and I just get,

I get just, you know, brushed off. So when do you say that, she says no? Yes, she says no. Right. Not into it. Have you ever said, like, why don't you go start fooling around with a girl? Like, why don't we bring a girl into the situation? Because she does like girls.

We have seen and met enough couples. And, you know, just for her. And then I don't have to be involved. Yeah. That she doesn't, she's not interested in that. It's hard to. Anymore. Yeah.

Because she was. That's what boggles my mind. So I'm like your friend thinking like, what is she doing to get her rocks off herself? Because we know what you're doing. And there's so much more. I think you said in your email like, oh, maybe we'll have to do a part, the three parts. You know what I mean? But I mean, you're doing so much.

You are getting your needs met, all your sexual needs met all over the place. And then you got your wife giving you all the rest of the stuff that you need, right? But your wife is getting all of that great stuff from you that you get from her. right, but where are she getting her intimacy from? Because I believe this, and I say it all the time, like sex isn't just sex. To men and to women, it's so much more, right? It's not just the physical act of sex. There's closeness.

There's a lot of ego attached to it and that you want to feel wanted and liked. I mean, where do you think she's getting that from if she's not connecting with you on that level at all? And listen, I thought that she definitely was cheating. Yeah. I thought she had. And one of my friends is a private investigator. So I asked him to follow her around if you wouldn't mind. And I didn't have to pay him.

And he said this was the most boring assignment that I've ever been on. The woman does nothing. Oh my God. That's so fucking funny. Maybe he was fucking your wife. Maybe that's who she was fucking, so that's why you got a queen. Shit, I hope so they told me about it so I can jerk off to it. No, I know, I know, like, where you're coming from.

I don't know why I'm trying to crack this case because I just can't believe that a woman, was she on the pill all her life? Yes. Because, I mean, that's the only reason why a woman would have zero sex drive. Besides being in full menopause or being on the pill. Like, the pill could really do a number on a. a woman's sex drive. I really, I went on it like once and I was like, I felt like a dead person. I'm like, fuck this. And it really, you know, because it's making you feel pregnant. Like, I don't know

what it does, but it does sort of take that drive and smush it. So maybe that's what's going on with her. I don't know. But I mean, you know, every woman wants to feel good and hot and attractive. Like, does your wife take care of herself? She is absolutely beautiful. So I just feel, like, because like if you would have said, oh, no, she let herself go. And maybe then I would think, yeah, she's living that boring life. But if she's really still fucking hot, she's at the top of her game, she's beautiful, she's smart, she dresses knives. She's still taking care of herself. I don't know.

Somebody's making her feel like a fucking woman. I would, I would think. Yeah. Interesting. My PI actually had her, you know, checked out when she would travel. I'm like, maybe she's maybe she's banging someone at work. But that ain't the case. I don't know.

Well, okay, so your, but so when you have talked to all these therapists and stuff, have you brought up all the cheating with them too? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And now, like, how do you feel about your cheating? Like, what would you, you know, when you were putting that on the table, was it because you feel guilty about it? Like, you wish you could stop?

I mean, how do you feel about it? Listen, I do, I do feel bad. don't, I'm not walking around thinking I'm, you know, Mr. Dick and Mr. Invincible and banging all these women and I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a conquer. I don't, I don't feel like that. I do, I do feel, I do feel bad. I do feel regret what it happens. And, um, I, I, I, I, I, I don't want to ever hurt her. Um, and, you know, if I could have, if I could have sex, like, three times a week, I think I can, I think that'll do it. No, well, I mean, listen, it was, very telling that like during that time

like you were cheating before and you cheated after but that time when you and your wife were going to the Swingers Club and you know she was having as much sex as you need as well you didn't cheat. No, not

at all. You know when therein lies the problem you're over-sexed and you're hypersexual and maybe she's a little on the other end of the spectrum and so you know what do you You do. You do what you're doing and God knows what she's doing. But it's different than that woman that you're banging, right? Because she is not happy at home at all. Like you, you kind of are. Like, do you ever see yourself leaving your wife? No. I mean, I've, I entertained it at one point, like we went to a counselor because I had come one day and said, I'm done. I can't do this. And I wouldn't.

necessarily call it separated, but I went to a friend's house, a single friend's house for, for, I was going to stay there for a week, but it ended up being two days because the two of us were like, let's just, this is ridiculous. Let's just, you know, we, you know, I genuinely missed her and did not want to get in that situation. I looked at my single friend going, you know, this, this is not me. And as sure as hell, I sure as hell don't want to, I don't dislike her, right? I mean, I like her still. So I know that many relationships, you know, go sour because you don't like the person that you're with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what's interesting. And like, do you, does she ever come to you? Because I know that you, it seems like you have gone to her a lot about the lack of sex and intimacy in your relationship. Has she come to you with any problems on her end with you? No. Mm-mm. So she's like status quo happy. the way it is.

I wouldn't necessarily go that far. There's a lot of things that have gone on in our lives in regards to family in the last couple of years that no one's happy to go lucky. Yeah. And she does have bouts with depression. And so no,

and everything's not heavy to go lucky. But I mean, it's us. We're trucking along. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know, you're trucking along but the baggage you were carrying. and the shit that's going down that no one knows about,

oh my fucking goodness. It's sad because I feel like she has a part in her. And I know that you've brought it up a million times, I guess. But I just wish that you somehow could bring her into your world. Because I feel like maybe if you got your needs met there, she should go on the pellets. You know, let her listen to my episodes with the women that went on the pellets. I got, I had two episodes with two older ones.

women that went on pellets and were like doing gang bangs suddenly, like seriously. No, I'm really serious. And maybe she needs a little shot of something because she's depressed because of things that happened and with family and you had two years of nonsense with COVID. I mean, it was a tough time as people went through. If she got a little depressed and stuff, that's not going to help the situation. And if she's going through hormonal changes, that doesn't help. So she needs a little help to get out of the rut that she's in.

I think what happens is you're so busy doing all this other stuff and when you do get all your needs met through all these other people you're less likely to really try to work on it with the person in front of you. You don't need to because you're getting fucked all the time. But the thing is,

I'm still such a filthy animal. When I come home, if I've had sex, if I've had sex that day, Yeah. I'm still trying to have sex with her. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still.

I'm still, I'm, you know, still want to bend that thing over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're just, you're a sex addict probably. Don't you think a little bit maybe? Yeah, you know, I made the mistake of trying to attend a sexual, sex addicts anonymous meeting one time. Oh, my God. Why?

Because you want to fuck all the girls there? No, there are three guys. Three guys that wanted to blow me out in the freaking parking lot. Like, I'm done. I'm not doing this. I know. It's a little bit like the blind leading the blind. I mean, right?

You're all fucking sex addicts. How many people have hooked up at a meeting? Right. Right. You're going to go to narcotics, anonymous, and throw a pack of heroin in the center of the, in the center of the freaking circle. Right.

And you were just there with a bunch of guys. I mean, imagine if there was like one or two hot girls there, what would have happened? I mean, oh, there were. And believe me, believe me, I, I, my, my awful mind was, uh, was wandering. It was, it reminded me, it was very close to, there's an episode in cheers. Yeah. To date, to date myself that, that Ted Danson's character went to a sex, sex addicts anonymous.

And, uh, and the woman next to her, the woman next to him just said, I, I, I get up. I have sex. I go to, I go to the mall. I end up having sex. And he's like, hey, he leans back and says, do you like Chinese? It wasn't too much different from that. Exactly. No, I get it.

Are you in, my last question to you is, like, are you in therapy now? Yes. Okay. And you're still talking this shit out? Yeah, I'm talking this shit out. Okay. How long you've been with this therapist? Is this a good therapist that you're with?

Yeah, it's a therapist for about a little over a year. Okay, that's good. How many times a week you go? just once. Okay, but at least once a week always consistent. Yeah. And you're totally up front with all the shit you're doing? Oh, yeah.

I'm a, I, I'm sure she, it personally hates my guts because I'm a filthy animal. Well, at least you don't think she's in love with you and you haven't tried to bang her. Okay. Well, no, she's a, she's a full-blown, she's a full-blown lesbian. Oh, okay. That's good. That's safe for you. Well, keep talking to your fucking therapist.

Thank you so much for calling. and being so honest about all your stuff. Oh, wait, one more question. Where do you hide all this nonsense? Do you have two phones? Like, are you sloppy? Are you really smart about how you do all this shit without getting caught? Oh, Kathy, I'm like a ninja.

You are? I have different emails and no notifications. I don't text. it's all through either my email that nobody knows about I physically log in

to the email on the internet so I don't have it as an email on my yeah yeah on your app yeah and one more question I do have one more question

your wife has she ever been like are you cheating I mean like don't you think she wonders like where you're getting sex from does she ever said anything to you Or do you think she's oblivious?

You know, to be totally transparent, I'm thinking that she probably has some ideas. She's a very, very smart woman. Yeah, yeah. And so I, she's read a couple of books. We both are readaholics. Yeah. And she's read enough books, fictional stories of this wife finding out her husband is having an affair with another man. And all this stuff.

She's read too many of those books for it to be a coincidence. So I think, I think in her, in her mind, this is totally honest. I think if I'm not putting it out in front of her face and it's never going to come back to haunt her, and it's not someone that we know, and I'm safe about it, I think, I think that she doesn't want to think about it. Yeah. I can understand that. I think that's a very European attitude. I think the woman in Europe, like, that's how they roll.

Because you said you have this great relationship. You have, you love her companionship. She obviously probably feels the same way. You guys have kids together. You've been with each other forever. You know, I think the worst thing that would happen for that woman is that she would find out. Like, I just think that's where a guy, if you're going to do all that and if you, this is the way you think it's going down, just be like respectful enough to do it.

So on the D.L. Like you said, like a fucking ninja, that you never find out. Because what would make you 10 times worse if you were, fucking sloppy if you were fucking her friends because that and because then you're like putting yourself in a position where she would find out and that's the last thing she ever wants even if she knows and she accepts it and she's like whatever she never wants to find out you know what I mean so don't ever let her yeah no and I would never it goes back to it goes back to college when um when I was first cheating is no no friends nobody that you mutually know that you know

that she knows. No one that you know. Yeah. So you're not bottom of the barrel cheater. Bottom of the barrel cheater, I know cheaters like this. They will fuck their girlfriend's best friends and go out to dinner and sit right across from that.

You know what I mean? That to me is the worst. They just have no feelings whatsoever or any kind of empathy for the other person whereas at least like you respect her enough to follow those rules. You know what I mean? never, never, ever interface. I got a couple of friends who are like the bottom of the barrel.

So at least, at least I'm one, I'm one run above those guys. Yes. Yeah, you're still down low, okay? I'm with you. Yeah, but you're not bottom of the barrel. But, you know, listen, I'm glad that you're in therapy and you're still talking things out. And I hope you never get caught. And I'm glad you found my podcast. Like I said, there's a woman that's a really crazy cheetaholic, too. that you're going to hear on my show. You're going to relate to her. I got more of your backstory than hers.

But you'll love her episode. Glad you found my show. And thank you so much for calling in. Super interesting. It's going to be out very soon your episode. Thank you so much. Your show is absolutely wonderful. I can't get enough of it.

And thank you so much. I really appreciate your time. That's awesome. Thanks, Rocky. Bye. You back. Bye. Bye.

Okay. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife's story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true.

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