Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 622 - Raven Cuckolds her Husband and is Now in Love with Someone Else

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Raven is a dominatrix who is married to a cuck and now she’s in love with someone else and she called in to talk all about it. When and why did she become a dominatrix? What other kind of kinks is she into? And, when did she start hotwifing for her cuckold husband? Tune in to hear all the details including her older boyfriend she dated when she was younger who got her into rope tying, how and why she then started going to sex clubs and started performing at fetish balls, the famous dominatrix she met who taught her how to be a dom, how she was sub when she was younger but then realized she really enjoyed domming, how she met her husband and when he asked her to start sleeping with other men, how his cuckold fetish evolved over time and became super hardcore, the humiliation he was into and how and why she was so good at it and how her dominatrix gig played into his cuck fantasy, the pressure that comes with separating the cuck/humiiation fantasy from reality, how communication and checking in kept them successful for so long but how and why eventually she felt like she wasn’t really fulfilled, the client she had intense chemistry with and what went down at their first couple sessions, what is was about him that she liked so much and why she stopped seeing him at first, how they eventually started meeting up again and started breaking all the rules, why she hasn’t told her cuck husband even though they have open relationship, why she’s not into her husband and hotwifing for him anymore and what she plans to do now that she’s in love with a new guy. **STAY TUNED because her new guy Ares, called in too and his episode will air Wednesday!** **To see anonymous pics of RAVEN plus all of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You have four minutes leave a message there. If you need more time, just call back. I change all the voices on my anonymous confessions, and all the anonymous confessions are posted on my Patreon. I have hundreds on there now, as well as pictures of like every female guest that has been on my show. Plus, I now have a Discord channel. There's hundreds of members over there,

and all of my guests now get free access to my Discord channel, and they go over there and they post X-rated stuff. If you want access to my Discord, you've got to join my. my Patreon. It's only $5 a month. You can cancel it anytime. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Now listen, Raven. Oh my God. Where do I start with her? This is a great episode because I thought it was going to be great because I was talking to my first dominatrix, right? I've never had a dominatrix on my show. I've been doing my show for so long. But it turns out what I was really talking to is a girl who happens to be a dominatrix, but who is married to.

a cock and not just a regular cuck, like the truest version of a cock and a very extreme cock. Okay, this is a guy that likes to be humiliated. He wants to be cheated on. He wants to be told he's not good enough. He wants her to go and fuck other people. He's got a small dick. She's a size queen. She's been fucking guys of bigger dicks than him since day one. She's been humiliating. him eventually the things that she has been humiliating and saying to him become like reality, you know, and that's a very hard line to ride for a woman, you know, and eventually she winds up in love with this guy, Aries. He's going to be on to explain his scenario because his wife knew he was going to see a dominatrix. So there's a lot of backstory there. But she is now

currently in love with this guy. She lied to her cuck about it. He started. He started to her. He's starting to get the idea that they are having feelings. Doesn't seem like there's any turning back for a Raven. And a lot of the beginning of this episode is about her backstory, how she got into all the kinky things that she was into. She was into Shibari and, you know, performing at fetish balls and stuff like that. And then she became a dominatrix and married this guy that was a cuck and how their relationship turned very early on to be like a cuck hot wife

scenario and then she talks about like I said her meeting Aries and we get a lot into that situation, how they fell in love, why she lied to her husband about it. Because in the beginning of this episode, like me, you're probably going to think, you know, everything is great in this hot wife, extreme cuck relationship. But when you hear about how she met Aries, and their whole story, you might feel different. And you're going to be confused about that because, like, in the beginning, when she talks about how she met her husband

and their cuckled relationship and, you know, her hot wifing, and you're not going to have any clue that there was anything wrong going on there. But when you hear her start to talk about her relationship with Aries, you're going to find out it's a different situation. The woman that was married to the cuck. I'm typically talking to the cuck.

I've talked to a couple cucks who lost their wives to bulls. And typically it's the cucks that are like her husband, the really, really extreme ones who really are into a lot of humiliation. And that's super interesting. You are going to hear from Ares. His whole side of this is going to be aired on Wednesday. I already taped that. It is super.

duper interesting, okay? But in this episode, you're going to hear from Raven. So it's super interesting on so many levels. You're going to love Raven. She's super hot. I got picks of her over on my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. But anyway, let's get right to it. I'm going to be right back on with Raven. Hi, Raven. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, Kathy, good. I'm excited to talk to Raven because you would think in the eight years of me doing my show by now, I would have spoken to a dominatrix. I've spoken to a lot of guys who see dominatrix and I've had tons of experiences that guys have had with dominations, but I never had one on my show. So I was so excited when one of my listeners emailed me and said that he had a Dom who wanted to be on.

Raven, your dominatrix. You're not going to give out in this call, like, your exact website and stuff, but you're going to tell me your whole story. What I want to know from you is, like, how you, how and like why you became a dominatrix. Okay. So that is, that's an awesome question. So it's multifaceted. I was kind of exposed to, well, actually, when I was really young, I watched the movie Pulp Fiction and the gimp in the box, just kind of like, you know, seared by. And, you know, Kinky Side into my mind. And then as I got old, I had an experience with a guy who's 16 years older than me. And he, you know, used a rope.

And I was just kind of fascinated by that. And then fast forward to being 24 and met my husband. And he is into cuckolding. And so we kind of walked down that path. Oh, my God. You're going. You're blowing through so many things. I can't wait to talk to you.

Okay, keep going, though. So with the cuckolding, I had also, I did some performance here locally in my state, and I met, there was a dominatrix, and I met her, and she kind of took me under her wing, and my husband was really excited about that because of the fantasy element. And so then I just started learning more about cuckolding and the humiliation aspect, and I started taking ropes courses, and I just ran with all that. And I learned more and more and more. And then I kind of eventually launched on my own and started, you know, seeing clients.

And that's been eight years ago, almost nine years ago now. Wow. I love your whole story. And that was like a quick way to tell it. And now let's get into the details. My first question is, are you still married to your cuck husband? Are you guys still together? Yeah.

We're still together. Yep. Okay. Great. So now, you know, when you were younger, Pulp Fiction, you know, got you going. What was it about that movie, by the way? the violence well it was so there's a point in the movie

you know when the character is captured and they're restrained and it's the you know gay couple and um they're kind of having boyaristic type sex and they bust out a gimp in the box and the gimp is covered in latex a hood you know in a box that's barely big enough to fit a person and they bring them out on a leash and I just remember I didn't know it at the time But I remember being like, wow, like what the hell is that?

And then in my later, you know, once I started to be, you know, to hit puberty, I was like, oh, wow, that's, that's sexy. And then latex and hoods and bondage and all those things were just of interest to me. And we all know that's of interest to quit in Tarantino too probably, right? That's why he writes that shit into his movies. I think that's come out about him, you know. Oh, yeah, he's a foot fetishist for sure. He loves feet. Yeah, that's a thing.

Yeah, so anyways, all those things just started to pick my interest and there was a place called the crypt that used to be in my state. And around the time I was just barely legal. I would go in there and they had things like anal hooks and hoods and, you know, all that stuff. And it just was fucking awesome. And then like I said, I met the dominatrix through some local fetish balls. I go-go danced and I met her and she was a mutual friend of this older guy who kind of played with ropes. And yeah. And so it just all kind of meshed.

And then my husband happened to be a cuckold. No, I know the short story. I want to start like really getting more details, right? So you're young. You get into like you, there's signs that you're into this kind of play when you're young. Now, were you always a dumb? Like when you were fantasizing about it and you realized that it turned you on when you were younger, Did you also fantasize about being a sub or in your fantasies, were you always a dom?

So I think that there was elements of both present. Because I remember this experience where the older guy, who called him naughty, tied me up. And at that time, I've been doing martial arts, jiu-jitsu specifically for a while. And I remember him, you know, talking about that. and essentially when he had me bound he slapped me and I remember being so upset and I thought oh I'm just going to I'm going to strangle the fuck out of this guy and then and then I couldn't because I was bound and then I was like oh wow like that was you know that was super hot but my initial reaction was to take control so yeah there's been both and then with my husband and I just kind of

felt, you know, it's when someone wants you to, you know, that you care about wants you to humiliate them. I mean, it's a pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious that you're the, you're going to be the dumb, especially with a cock. So now, you marry your husband. When does he bring up that he's into seeing you fuck other people? And at that point had you already been into all this alternative stuff like go-go dancing and all that, like fetishy things that you were doing? Yes, for sure. And so the fetishy stuff, the go-go dancing, the performance, you know, like Shabba, like live art. That stuff happened before I met my husband. And so I think he was really into like the hot past kind of stuff. And he talked to me about my ex-partners and one of which included, you know, naughty and which was a guy who I initially played with the ropes. And so I think he saw that as an opportunity to kind of express his kinks. And yeah, he just. started asking me specifically about those sexual experiences. And then, you know, he was like, well, what would happen if you met up with this guy?

And, you know, that was super exciting to me because I was like, fuck, yeah, I love that. I love fucking that guy. So we revisited that. Then we basically revisited all of my exes. And then I kind of got more comfortable, you know, like thinking about going out into the world. And the humiliation was something that I really had to wrap my mind around. And so I, you know, I just did a lot of educational. I did seminars with Midori.

Like I said, I took those rope courses. I read enough to make you blush, which is a book about humiliation. So I just started educating myself and found the eroticism and all of that, even though that wasn't like where it came for me, where it came from me. Right. It didn't start there, right? But eventually you wound up there and then you were interested in it. Yeah.

And it turned people on. So I think that. And that's where the Dom part of me comes in as I like to create that experience for others to find what makes them, you know, hard or turns them on and then run with that. Like, I like the control of that. Yeah, and I think that there's a part of that in the part of you who became that performance artist, correct? Because you're turning people on, right? Was that a thrill for you? Is that the reason why you also started to do that stuff even before you met your husband?

So I just wanted to explore more of what turned me on at first. Yeah. You know, I was just trying to like, oh, I've always been hypersexual. I masturbate like once or twice a day. At least I just wanted to, you know, get into what made me tick. And then, yeah, I met all the right people, I guess. No, but I mean that, like, you know, you said you were go-go dancing. You were doing Shibari.

and that was a part of like you going and turning yourself on. So you were like a little bit of an exhibitionist. Is that what turned you on about that? Well, I just love to dance. Yeah. I really just genuinely love to dance. And so I guess that was less about exhibitionism. I danced.

I stripped too for a little while. I was able to, you know, find a lot of success with that because I was able to, you know, get in and get out and really create a client base. and just make it work for me in ways that I saw other girls were not able to. So I liked that. I loved to dance. And then I just added the things that were sexually appealing to me. Like I said, the bondage and put them all together and ended up, you know, performing at these fetish goals.

Yeah. And explain what Shabari is because I remember not knowing anything about it. I do know now because I do my show. But for other people that don't, can you explain like Shabari and what goes down? Oh, okay. So Japanese rope bondage essentially. And it's really beautiful actually, right? And it takes a long time. It is very intricate, but it also looks very beautiful, correct? Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, it's an art form. And use it as, you know, as decorative. You know, it's just the sensual experience to tie someone up. But you can also use it for, you know, like intense bondage and suspension, which I really like. but that takes a lot of education because you have to know where, you know, where the nerves are

and points and just things that you need to do it safely. And so that was really fun taking those classes. I took them as a top and bottom through a local place here. And it's like intermediate or beginner intermediate advanced three month segments, you know, each way through. So I did, I did a lot just educating myself because I thought it was sexy. So you're, you know, you're into rope, you're into Shibari. It's obvious that it's easy for your guy to put on the table about cuckolding because he met you when you were in that alternative world. You knew that he was.

So was it like right from the get-go that you started hooking up with all your ex-guise and going home and telling him? So he asked me to have those encounters. Yeah. And we kind of created that together and set rules and boundaries around it. And, you know, it's a, that is, it's an intense fetish. And that's something that you really have to communicate clearly about. But, you know, we're, we've been married now together for almost 12 years. And we've been married since 2015.

So we've worked out a lot. And, you know, with most fetishes, people eventually, like, varying degrees of intensity usually increases. So we've, you know, first we played around. You know, we didn't do full penetrative sex. And then, you know, things have evolved. So yeah well I mean I think that's what I hear typically especially from the couples that have been doing it for a long time a lot of times it you know you do go in with a lot more rules and they fall by the wayside as time goes on when you trust the process more but did it start in the beginning and like what were those rules and regulations and boundaries that you had yeah it was pretty soon it was just a few months in and he was kind of testing the waters and it's really natural for a lot of women to be like hey what is what is this person probing for? Do they want to sleep with other girls?

Like is that the end game? So I had some, and I've always loved girls. I've been. Sexual experience was with a woman. My first, you know, the person that I dated was a woman. So I wasn't necessarily opposed to that if that was the end game. But, you know, as we talked about it more, I realized, oh, wow, like that, that's not the goal here. And then there was a little bit like when I had my first sexual experience with another

You know, with one of my exes, I thought maybe is there a guilt, you know? I just wanted to make my husband felt loved. So we had to talk through all of that. And then especially with the humiliation component, me telling him like, oh, you're not big enough. You're not good enough. You know, and then now I just really started to own it, you know. I can say some pretty mean shit. And he loves it.

Yeah. Yeah, I've had a lot of guys that have called. in there's a lot of guys out there with a lot of fetishes and a lot of relationships can not weather through or a lot of women they find it very hard to humiliate the guy they love and I can understand that you know I mean your guy's super lucky and maybe it's because you guys did go very slow but he is lucky to have found you a woman who can be able to separate the two because I think it might be hard for most women to do that like how do you look at your guy And even though he loves it, right?

You know, fucking humiliate him. I think this is like a hard thing. And I have had a lot of guys on my show where that has like ruined their relationship because I think it has created some sort of distance or it's hard for the woman. But you're able to do that, which is cool. I mean, your guy's really lucky to have you. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that is a dynamic. And, you know, there's subredits for people to, you know, share their experiences. And a really common theme is. that yeah they they push really hard or they push with really extreme things like you know and bulls impregnating women and yeah their relationships deteriorate so i think that they're they you know there's a fine line between like fantasy and then things that you execute and it just takes a ton of communication to to make that healthy but yeah if there's i definitely have like the dominant like dominant preferences with my husband.

And so it just kind of worked out. We have to be honest and transparent. So we are, yeah, we're good where we're at. And now, did he, because like what I've heard at a lot of cuck situations, we'll move on more to the dominatric side of you, but I just want to talk about this for one more second. Because I always think it's really important

when I do have people on who are successful at it to tell a lot of that story because it helps other people, right, the way you have done it. Because I've had a lot of cuck stories gone wrong because what happens sometimes, especially with people who are very true cucks, the one that really want to get humiliated and denied,

you know, that they start being, you know, what turns them on is their girl being, denying them sex and there is no reclaiming and they're doing it solo, you know, and a lot of times that could drive a wedge and then what I've heard is, you know,

that girl winds up with somebody else. Now, did you guys have things in place that is different than that experience so that it keeps you guys connected or, you know, do you play solo? Do you deny him? Yeah. Wow.

You said a lot better. It's been an evolution and I definitely needed a lot of, as a hot wife, you know, or a dawn, you know, you're kind of both of those things at once. I needed a lot of aftercare, like a lot of affirmation of like, yeah, I still love you. And then as I got, you know, more comfortable being like, oh, yeah, he loves me and he loves this and I'm like his personal porn star essentially. And that, you know, it's genuine. I mean, he, when he does masturbate, he's, it's to me, right? So being up on the pedestal was, was nice. There was some pressure too. And so kind of managing his fantasy versus like reality.

And I think the things the cucks don't realize is oftentimes when a woman is having a consistent sexual relationship with someone and this isn't true for all women some women can totally be like you know not develop those attachments but generally speaking at least for me i feel like if i have a connection that makes the sex like that much better you know i'm like a deep i'm squirt i can fuck forever i love you know just diving in 100% and that makes it feel better for me when i have some type of connection with the person and for a cuckold especially if they want to watch a lot of cuck porn. I don't think that that emotional element is there. So it is something that they can, it can be a shock to them. And I think that the people have to be really careful when they

are working through that. You know, to be, and it changes. You know, it evolves. And like, maybe in the beginning, for both people, it feels like safer to be like, yeah, you know, like no texting outside of out of this, no slow play. And then as you progress, you need to check in with one another. and be like, hey, do you, you know, six-month check-ins, you know, do you feel satisfied? Is this something that you still like? And if either one of us has a different desire, like, how do we compromise and move forward so that we're both getting our needs met? Like, that's a really important piece to the cuckled thing.

Yeah, and there's got to be full transparency always there, right? Because even if you're copying feelings, you can't be afraid to tell your guy that that's happening, correct? Oh yeah, correct for sure. Yeah, it's, I think reclaiming is important. You know, there is an element that I've found with the humiliation and which a lot of guys crave. And, you know, I think that my husband is, you know, craves this in part is that when you really are telling them like you're not good enough and you're not big enough and then you're having sex with, you know, like berries, right? If you're having sex with a guy like that, it's just the comparison. It's, it's, very real when you say these humiliating things. Like, yes, I still love my husband, but his cock is not the same at all. And I just need to reference that Aries, because we didn't talk about this on air. Like, is the guy that is my listener that you are really into right now. We're going to talk about that.

So, you know, you have like this really intense thing going down with a guy we're going to say his name Aries, correct? And so, you know, how do you keep those two things? going is what you're explaining, right? Yeah. How do you feel sexual intimacy with your husband? And yet, especially if the humiliation, like element is present to, you know, like I said, some of the things that I say, like, oh, I mean it.

Like, Harry's cock compared to my husband's just fucking otherworldly, right? So then there becomes an element, you know, like a best friend element with my my husband and, you know, I think that, you know, we love each other and he's a love of my life, but Sarah's sexual satisfaction goes, like, he could not do what Aries does. So, I know, I think that that's something that Pucks think that they want and maybe some of them do, but it's something that they actually have to come to terms with if they're going to be, like, a true puckled. And if that's something that they want to, you know, really embody and have play out in their life. Like, at this point, that's,

you know, I have those feelings and, yeah, experiences to back it up. And he knows and he's okay, though. I mean, you have been able to weather through all of that. I mean, is Aries the first guy that is so top of the mountain for you or have they been others before? No, he's it. Oh, okay. So maybe it's the first time you and your husband are reaching this.

This is like maybe a milestone in your relationship. So, you know, I had an ex and we fucked for like five or six years and I wasn't, you know, he had a big cock and I'm a size queen. And so, and there is a level of familiarity, safety and, you know, transparency and we could all hang. Well, we didn't really hang out a ton. But anyways, like I said, familiarity and he had the cop for it. So that was all right. but I wasn't like overwhelmingly attracted to him like not in a crazy. So but part of what I've been experiencing when I have done the Dom work in the sessions

and created these magical fucking mind-blowing experiences for people, sometimes I mean it turns me on and then there's a part of me that's been like, oh, like I want that. I want to experience the mind fuck of what this person is going through right now. Oh. And so I. I guess I just didn't think that that person existed. Like I have, you know, there's a quote and it says, you know, I keep waiting to meet a man with bigger balls than me.

Yeah. And I really embodied that like my whole life. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. Energy is just like a ton. And he, yeah. And he is fucking special.

Aries is the guy with the bigger balls. Oh my God. Yes. So it's, it's been pretty mind glowing. Well, that's a great intro to that part of your life. Let's go there now. We've talked a lot about the cuck thing. Let's start, let's talk about and, you know, let's lead into that relationship.

We're talking about like when you first started working as a dominatrix and how that all came about and how you loved it. Okay. When I first started? Yeah. Like I said, about eight years ago. I've actually worked at several different local dungeons. Right. You met that girl, right?

You met a Domitrix. She was already a Dom. And she kind of brought you in, correct? Correct. Yeah. And there was several different play spaces or iterations of it. Anyway, at first she wanted me to work right away. And I think she was having some struggles paying her rent.

And I really put up a boundary and was like, I'll come and watch. And like, I want to be. This is, again, why it's important not to be a full-time dumb, like, and depend on it, especially when you're learning, right? The more I know, the more comfortable I am, the more people I can see and feel like I'm doing a good job doing that. But, but anyway, so she kind of brought me into her wing, and yeah, it was just a lot. I mean, I learned a lot. And then it just really played into my husband's cuckold fantasy, because you'd be like, oh, you know, did you do this? Did you do

that. Sometimes I made up stories. Sometimes I used real experiences. Did he ever come to your dungeon? Did you ever dom him there in the dungeon? Or do you always keep that separate? No, I don't think he. I mean, we did parties. So we used to post the dungeon, the larger dungeon that I worked at used to host parties. And those and obviously in that element, you know, he was more of a sub. And people knew what the dynamic was between us. But yeah, no, I did. like do that at the dungeon. Well I did make videos for him. I did on off hours our our long time friend and my fuck partner like we made videos there. So I guess that's kind of. So now explain to people because I think a lot of times people who have no idea about BDSM they think it's just all sex, sex, sex, you know, and what I know from doing my show and what was surprising to me at first was that there's just a lot of a lot of it isn't about sex. Sex is a very small part of it. It's a a lot of mind manipulation and control, right? I mean, it's about so much more than just sex.

Oh, yeah. So, I mean, I don't. There is, and I eventually graduated to seeing each other outside because he's like one in a million, but I never, it's always a very professional relationship, no sex. There's literal technical skills, like if you're going to use sounds on someone. You know, like you have to have some sterilization technique. do you have to know a little bit about the urethra, the bladder, if you're going to do impact play, like especially suspensions. Because of my martial arts experience, you know, I can be considered a professional in, you know, strangulation.

So people, that's something you have to be super careful with. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I always give like PSAs to that. I mean, you're a professional, but so you could probably agree with me. I had a girl on once and she was like doing a gangbang. like some guy choked me out because I love it, but I fucking passed out. I'm like, why would people ever do that?

You're like with strangers in a club. Like, I am always like PSA. It's not fucking worth it, you know? And I think the only time you should ever do it is with somebody like you who knows how dangerous, something like that can be because it can be. It's not fucking worth it. To me, it's like Russian roulette, you know? Literally.

Right? Yeah, it's outrageous. And again, you can go to Reddit for a lot of horror stories. but essentially, you know, I've been doing jiu-jitsu for 12 years. And I mean, literally a professional and strangling people. And so. My son would be obsessed. Yeah, no, so you know.

You know how to fucking kill somebody, which then makes you know how to not kill somebody, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I would highly caution people against that. Me too. I always do. Yeah. That's a technical skill.

Yeah. That's what people don't understand that. You had to learn all of that to really. to really become a professional job. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, so that was, but it was fun, you know, electro torture, different types of bondage. Like I said, impact play different.

Everyone is different, like their pain tolerance, you know, what they're some, like, foot fetishists, you know, they're not usually into pain. I mean, those things can coexist. There's just such a huge breadth of kink, like the mind fuck of it. you know, some people like the, you know, the mommy boy type fetish. And so just understanding the different mental dynamics and then practicing those and really being able to convincingly fall into that role play is like, yeah, it takes skill.

It takes practice. It takes attention. Yeah, because every day it could be you're doing a new thing. Probably in the, like maybe by now because you've been doing it so long, you could, you know, any guy that comes with any kind of mind fuck that he wants, you, you've been there, done that. But in the beginning, I would assume that like every day it's something new. You've got to fucking learn. Have you ever had any women as customers or is it always met?

No, I have had women. It's much less, you know, like you can imagine, I've seen way hundreds and hundreds of guys and, you know, probably only. A handful. Yeah, maybe 21 of the course. And a lot of times the women that I do see come with their husband. And I think that's or their partners. it's a really sweet dynamic because, you know, they're trying to do what I initially did and just educate themselves. And maybe their husband said, oh, I'm into cross-dressing and in being dominated and

they want to know more so that they can, you know, explore that with their partners. And that's awesome. Or, you know, maybe she wants to be dominated and they decided that they want to be dominated together. And so that they, you know, they come to me and I can create that experience. So that's, that women are, always fun. I haven't had a woman who, yeah, I haven't enjoyed working with. Okay, so now how and when does Aries come into the picture? Like, what did he come in looking for?

And why did he blow your fucking mind? Like, I mean, you've been doing this a long time. Like, why does he stand out? I mean, I know he's got the biggest dick, but like there has to be more. Whoa. So, I think that, well, I don't think,

but what I'm going to choose to do is keep his, initial ink inquiry. Okay. Yeah, private. So there was some pretty standard things. You know, we played a little bit with bondage. And, you know, we did, uh, there was like a golden shower element to, to, you know, the first session.

And, and I was just taken aback. And that's not something that I, you know, I did a ton of. And I was very specific who I did it with. And he was just such a great communicator, you know, prompt left me, you know, a tip right away to show that he was serious, just eloquent. And I really enjoyed speaking to him when I called for that five-minute chat. And so I was excited to see him. And then I had no idea what he looked like, right?

And then he walked in and I was just like, Jesus fuck. Oh, you mean besides a big dick, he's like really good looking? Oh, my God. He's fucking a mountain of a guy. at least six foot he's like a cowboy attire you know just like a man's man like tall strong tattooed sweet beautiful eyes great jaw i mean you know good conversationalness like he's just everything that and then you know he me particular as far as like what type of man i'm attracted to looks wise like he's lighter skins and he has you know like blondeish strawberry blonde kind of reddish hair

green up gorgeous absolutely fucking gorgeous so he walks in and I'm like oh surprise beside myself oh my god yeah like what are those things I mean you can't that's the kind of stuff you can't put in a bottle besides he's good-looking like it's chemistry too right oh yeah for sure like I mean he walked in and we both talked about this later and it was like a lightning bolt just both of us we I mean I think we even did just like pause a little and look at one another and so I was beside myself and we did the session it was fun and I did a lot of planning for that first session and so we had a great time and then he came back one a fitness competition the next day said he attributed that to me so he booked another session with the prize

money came back a few I think a month later a couple months later I don't remember anyways and that was super You know, that was fun. It was also intense. There was a moment and this was very, this is probably what switched in my brain. And I usually never do this. But I had him in cuffs. And so I went both on his wrist and his ankles. And usually I would have, you know, them below me and I would, you know, have them lift up, you know, their arm or their leg and take it off from there. So I'm standing above them. And for whatever reason, I bent down to take off, you know, the cuff around his ankle. And I looked up at him and he was just powering above me. And I was like, oh, my God. It was crazy. So that's how it kind of began. And I actually said, you know, I can't see you anymore because I felt this going out of this professional role.

And I was like not okay with it. And his wife, he's married as well, has cut queen fantasy. So his wife has a cut queen fantasy. my husband's a cuckold, you know, and so we were happy in our relationships, and I felt that there was, you know, a boundary. His boxers stayed on, you know, through both of the sessions, and it was just super intense, and I felt like it was going to go somewhere, you know, that was not professional, so I said, I can't see you anymore. I remember this. This is what he talked to me about when we talked on the DL, right? I'm assuming I'm allowed to say that, correct? Because you're on

He's going to be out. Okay, cool. Yeah, go on. Oh, yeah. So I said he can't see you anymore. And, yeah, we kind of parted ways. And he later mentioned that he thought about once he left, about just like basically coming back and walking in the door and just, you know, having his way with me then.

But I was like, I'm glad that he didn't do that. And the tension that we built up over the next year. It was almost like a year to the day. Where you didn't see each other. But you were still talking, like texting or something with each other? Yeah, well, we exchanged emails. There was a period of time where we, I just didn't talk to him at all because I was trying to be professional and sever that and, you know, kind of move on, collect myself.

And so, but he kept reaching out. And he was not, it was like I said, very, he's very well spoken and very polite, but also just has a way with words that, you know, makes me melt. And so eventually it kind of caved and we had these conversations. And then he created this experience up in the mountains. And my husband was supposed to come with me. And that was going to be the first time, you know, we didn't think that we would have sex. But you were allowed to by both your partners, correct?

I mean, that it was like, that it was okay for his, with his wife, knew what he was doing. And it was okay with your guy as well, correct, at that point? So she had said that all. the, this is my understanding. So she said everything but the act. And he went, he was honest with her. And they had, you know, like a reclaiming and are doing better than ever. And so she was like less experienced in the cut queen.

Obviously than my husband who'd kind of crossed that threshold and popped his cuck cherry. Yeah. Yeah, you had fucked a lot of guys. I mean, so it didn't really matter. Like he was more used to it than his girl. But she was okay with it. I mean, clearly.

Yeah, because they, like I said, she kind of reclaimed him the next morning and he knows that we talk. And, and yeah. So, and then there's been kind of like continued sexual attention back and forth. I mean, more than sexual tension. We're balls deep right now in this crazy, whatever the fuck this is that we have going between us. You know, it's interesting because when he called me on the DL, it was to talk all about this intense attrously. He feels the same way with you, right? And it was like a dilemma for him when I spoke with him.

And now I know, because we talked about this before I got on the phone with you, that he is willing to come on and not be on the DL. So maybe I should, because I think I need his whole backstory because this guy has like a wife that he told that he fucked you. He also was like calling me because he was confused. It sounds like you guys are in fucking love. I don't know. So we're going to have a whole episode.

with him on now. But what I want to ask you about, because I use the L word, like, are you guys in fucking love? Absolutely. Like, 110%. It's, it's really, it's mind-blowing. And we're just trying to figure out what to do and what it means. And it's intense. It's intense. But it's great. Okay, but let me ask you this. Does your guy know that you're, in love with him? My husband? Yeah. So he asked me if I had feelings for him, and that was at least a month or so ago.

And I said no. However, I mean, that wasn't the truth, so I lied. But I have talked to my husband about when we do these cuckled arrangements that, like, for me, having an attraction to someone, especially when you're intimate, over time is going to deepen and emotion especially for women like emotions are natural right and some women in the cuckled lifestyle can just like you know fuck and not have any emotional attachment and like they prefer you know this connection with their husbands no i know you said you brought that up early on in this conversation that you know that was that is a big part of how you roll and that was a big

thing that you guys had to really talk about but i just have to cut you you I'm cutting you off because you kind of said two things right there. And I think you said the second thing to clean up the first thing, which is I fucking lied. And I think that you're using this excuse, which was kind of the way you guys set it up in the beginning. Like, I have to have feelings and you did kind of have feelings before, but it wasn't really anything intense, you know. But I feel like if it was that scenario and you felt okay about it, you would have never lied in the first place. Like the reason that you actually lied to this guy that you have been so open with that you guys have done so much, like, that means it's something different. It's not something you guys have really discussed.

Do you know what I mean? Or else you wouldn't have lied. Like the fact that you lied for some reason is because this is beyond that. Do you know what I mean? It's not just what you're saying, that whole speech you were about to give me that I cut you off on. It's not that because if it was that, you tell him that you guys have already talked about that. You're not telling him because it's separate. You know, I feel like those rules and regulations were a part of your guy's marriage.

I feel like this relationship with Aries or these feelings and this situation is living outside of the marriage. And that's why you lied. It is. And, you know, there's a whole component. I'm going to be really honest with you here. As much husband and I have. evolved this cuckled kink and I told you I started educating myself and even worked at a dungeon to just for this.

This was really my kink. Some people get together and the girls all about it and the guy's all about it. Oftentimes, you know, you read things on Reddit or I have, you know, conversations with people in person and the guy pushes it and the girl's not super into it and they have to make a choice of like, okay, do I set this down? Do I violate a boundary? And, you know, I have governance over myself and agency, but for me, it's not something that I was super crazy about. And so something that I had to set myself, you know, just intentionally to explore, to try to, you know, to be in a marriage and to explore your partner and their kinks.

And I think that that's really important in any sexually satisfying relationship. And so, you know, I spend a lot of time doing that. And then there's some things that Aries does just so naturally that I have been kind of searching for and asking, wanting my kinks to be fulfilled with my husband. And there's things he's just not open to. And so it just is kind of like this natural, like he just fits into what I really want in a person, a partner. And it's so it's really intense.

it's not just the sexual compatibility. It's a lot more. And the more we talk and the more we play, the more intense it gets. And I think I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. Well, what I think is interesting and important to spell out, and I want to say it in a different way than you just said it, feel like you know now

that this wasn't really your thing. But I don't think you went into it knowing that it wasn't. And I think sometimes that can happen. You can think that you're cool with something and you can like it for a long time. And then in retrospect, when something else happens or something, you might then see the whole thing in a different way and then be like, oh, I don't like that. You know, I think both things can exist. But that's not the case. I actually virtualized to my husband all the time.

Oh, so see. So this is so I feel like, so it's interesting then the way you were explaining it before. There was never in the beginning that this wasn't something you were into. It was kind of like he wants me to fuck other people. And I'm like, oh yeah, because like these people have bigger dicks. And I like to fuck other people. So this is like kind of great. So there was this underlying thing that you were not into it at all.

Yeah. No, I mean, it's there. And it's all. My husband is attractive. My husband, you know, I feel like sometimes in. in your typical cuck situation, husbands feel like they cannot satisfy their wives. And so this might be like an outlet for that. Sometimes I've even seen the husband withhold so that the wife wants to go and have other,

you know, partners. Yes, I've had that story on my show. And then they all wind up in love with someone else, just like you. This is why I think it's so important. This is like the best part of your episode because so many people wanted to hear from his wife. and so many people trashed his wife. But I think it's really important to get the female's perspective of that situation. Do you know what I mean?

Because it's not like one person's the bad person, the other person's the victim. You know, I don't believe that. And that's just why I'm kind of picking it apart and trying to get clear on where you were really coming from and where you're really at because I think you were talking more bigger picture when you were explaining your relationship with your husband and everything. and now because we're really putting it out of the microscope because you're in love with another guy, it sounds like a different story. Yeah, I mean, side was an overarching theme versus, you know, intimate details.

We asked my history backstory. That's a lot to cover over 12 years. Listen, I'm not saying you lied. I'm just saying, okay, listen, I'm just saying when you listen, I never really got the idea that you were not into. what you had signed up for with your husband. Because I said it, you ride a hard line. Like, that's a hard line. Because I got to tell you, I talk to a lot of cucks.

So a lot of them are on the DL. And a lot of guys that are into small penis humiliation. And most of the time I'm talking to them because they can't keep a girl. Because, and we talked about this, me and you, like how, like, what a hard line to sort of ride. You want to desire your guy. You want to fuck him. You want him to be hot to you. Yet he's telling you to tell him he's not good enough.

Like how do you ride that line? I don't know. I think it's impossible. And you have been doing that. When you did say, like sometimes it is like what I'm saying to him, the humiliating things that I'm saying to him are true. So then does that person eventually over time lose respect? Like that eventually happens.

And she does wind up. be with another guy because she wants to be with a guy that she doesn't feel those feelings for. Yeah. My husband and Aries actually had a meetup. I was out of town that I'm Georgia and they had a meet up their first face-to-face interaction. And because my husband knows that something is up and that I want to basically fuck Aries more than I've ever wanted to fuck anyone or, you know, be around. him he was like well I want to meet yeah he could tell something's going on even though you said no I don't have feelings like he knows because he wouldn't have asked you if he didn't you know what I mean yeah so they meet without me you know goes well my husband can't deny that you know yes he seems like a good person and then I talked to him about wanting to have a connection with a connection with with areas that you know I need some connection I need some grounding within the marriage and we agree degree and we talk about maybe two weeks on talking to Aries and two weeks off. And he was like,

okay, you know, I can really work on our sexual connection. And then during the other two weeks, you know, we can play my kink, my cuckold fantasy where you kind of humiliate me and degrade me. And essentially any type of dirty talking or intimacy that we set out to do over the phone or, you know, when I came back into town, it just all led to him being like, tell me how you're not going to fuck me. Tell me how you're going to save your pussy for him. Tell me how he's better. And it's just so, it's really hard. Like, I mean, that doesn't

turn me on at all. What's so fucked up if you really think about it is, like, his biggest fear and the reason why you lied to him is the thing that turns him on the most. Do you know what I mean? Like, he wants, in one

sense, to know that you are falling for him. Like, he gets some sort of pleasure out that, but I'm sure it's also like his biggest fear right i need your fucking husband on them too so we were actually having a conversation over face time yeah and i told him that when he finally sees us fuck on video that i think it's going to break his heart and we were having like an emotional serious conversation and he started like jacking off and i was this is a compulsion for him like this is the reason why these cucks lose their girls it there i had a guy on this episode scott

And he, like you said, sometimes they start denying themselves. That's what happened with him and his wife. And she met somebody who she, you know, felt those same things. And she's still with that guy and left him for it. And I was like, there was like a million rad flags that happened before she left you. And like, what do you expect is going to happen when you stop connecting and stop being primary? And you're jerking off and letting your girl just continue on with a, the guy of her dreams. I mean, what do you expect? That's essentially, I mean, that's essentially

what it is. And like I said, my husband is handsome and formidable, but he just chooses to disengage. But could I just ask you a quick question just about your guy again? So why then did you lie? And why not really tell him like really straight up? Is it because you want to wait to see what Aries is going to do in his relationship over there? I mean, like, why not be honest to your guy and let him really know that you really do have feelings or have you already told him that so when we were having the conversation the other day where you know it was emotional and a face you know over face time yeah started jacking off i told him i started i told him i said i never wanted this and he goes i know it's my fault right and and i just you know kept reiterating it and i was like

you're going to be heartbroken and it's going to be your fault. And yeah, and that made him. Well, listen, you both, it's, there's nobody's fault, okay, first of all. I mean, if someone has more of a fault in this situation, it's him. But you both took part in a long-term relationship that for a very long time worked for the both of you. I mean, right? You know, even though it wasn't your ideal situation, you were getting a, you were

getting to fuck all these guys and do what you wanted. Like, you guys were well suited for, I would assume, some time and things were good. But the thing is, Kathy, is that I went into this and I, if I was anything, I'm more, you know, I'm more monogamous. By nature, right. And I've expressed that. And so it's not like I, it's not like my goal in the relationship or, you know, the perk of the relationship is getting to fuck all these guys. I do like big dicks. And they have some dick.

But, you know, I could. This is going to be such a great episode because there's so much here for people to just go fucking off on. I just listen, I love conversations about things like this. You know what I mean? I love different people giving their different opinions and people chiming in. And some people are going to be like, no, Kathy, she's fucking right. It is his fault. A totally 100% fault.

I always try to see a lot more or both sides of things. you know, I never like to see things as very black and white. And I think things mostly aren't black and white, you know. So, yes, it's more his fault than yours. But I think fault is like a harsh, not, well, it's not really a harsh word. It is the reason why you guys are going separate. His kink is pushing you away and has been since day one, you know. But if you want to say fault, I mean, your fault is that you did stay with him for like, what is it, 15 years?

I mean? Yeah, no. that's absolutely that is absolutely my role in this and I thought a lot about and I've worked you know we have great kinkaware therapy and I have you know I've been working with a lady especially the last few months and I absolutely like like I said I have agency and I have I have governance over myself and this is something that I chose to stay in even though maybe a boundary was being violated and that's on me I chose to marry a person and go into a binding you know legal and You know, there's contact with someone despite knowing that we have these differences.

So it is on me as well. Yeah. But that's okay. Like I think that most of, I've had only bad relationships with my life. Okay. Like I wrote a whole book on it. Everyone is like a fucking love gone wrong story. Okay.

But I believe I could look back at every single relationship. And I'm sure you can too. And just you always know that you're learning about yourself. Like we draw people into our lives for whatever reason it is. Whatever he's playing out, it makes sense. in his life path. And also for you, the reason why you're with him makes sense for your life path. And you know, when people grow and change and move away and divorce, quote unquote, I always believe it's not necessarily a terrible thing because that just means maybe it's like that lesson or whatever

the reason why you're with that person, you figured it out and it's time to move on, you know. So it will make sense to you maybe more when you're out of it 10 years from now and you'll just see like, oh, like this is why I had to do that and why I went through that. and all the stuff. That's why I said, like I was not saying you were lying, like you were lying, but I think sometimes we do see things different in hindsight.

And I, I don't know. Like, would you have said all these same things about your relationship 10 years ago? Or did you think it was a different situation because it was? Because you were different. Like, we all grow and change.

And then we're like, oh, what the fuck is this, you know? That happens. The thing that I wouldn't know is that, I noticed in hopes that it would be the kink exploration would be reciprocal. So I would be more satisfied if he explored my kinks just as equal.

And I could say, okay, spend like I said, like half the time on this and then we'll switch modes and then we'll go into, you know, basically everything that area does. And I thought it would be a mutual reciprocal relationship. And it's not that my husband doesn't care about me, but like, no, he could be. You know, when you have a fetish like that, it's like compulsive. And a lot of times that kind of a thing does ruin a relationship. But I had a hot wife on. And, you know, when you said this exact same sentence that she did, she said, and when she called in the first time, she was still with her husband. But they weren't really hot wafing anymore.

And now she's with a new guy. She met a new guy. And they're in love. And they're like swingers. And she's living her best life. And what she said really was that when she thought back to her hot wafing time, like she felt like she was his. Hornstar. But after a while, she just felt like all, like she was doing all the work. Like, she was just sick of performing. She wanted to do exactly like what you said. She wanted that

person do stuff for her too. And there was none of that. She felt like it was very one-sided. And now she's with a guy where she could do all her kinky crazy things. But they're doing it together. And it's even. It's not just that performance, the performance on her side. You know, and I think what happens is that guy that has that fucking kink, that pull, and it's like a fetish, it's compulsive, and if you're willing to give it to them, they're just going to keep fucking taking, and they could lose balance very easily. It's hard

to moderate that kind of a thing. You know, a fetish. And that's the problem with a lot of guys that have a fetish because they can't fucking stop. Yeah, and I mean, you see in the forums, you know, they talk about, you know, bulls impregnating hot wives

and they talk about being pussy free. And that's a goal for a lot of guys. So when he recently said to me, you know, because this was about a, you know, it's about a month since the last time we really talked about this and the time that I'm going to see Aries, you know, at the end of April. And he, you know, I don't, you know, save your pussy for him. Tell me that I don't. And I was just like, wow, like that is a long time for me to go without any physical connection. Yeah.

And it's just, it's hard. It's really hard. And I think guys really do get carried away. And I think that, you know, relationships, marriages end, like, you know, statistically 50%. But I definitely think that in the cuckold, you know, in the cuckold lifestyle, when it gets more extreme, more extreme over time. Yeah. I think that's a recipe. And there's no reciprocal.

Yeah. I mean, that's just a recipe for disaster. Of course, the red flags, even in your story, you know, you're a size queen. He's not. He's letting you fuck all these guys with bigger dicks. You know, you're like eventually you're going to meet a guy that not only has a bigger dick, but also you're going to respect more because you're not humiliating him and having to say all these things. And I mean, I just think that that's human nature, whether you're a man or a woman.

I don't know how you can humiliate your partner over a long span of time and not lose respect for them. And, you know, enough to make you blush is a great book about, humiliation and degradation. And there's things, and people like to be called come sluts and horrors and, you know, all types of things during the act. Yeah. Which is, that's like a theme. And you can set that scene and you can play.

Yeah, it's fun. Dirty talk. Yeah. And you come out of that scene, right? So there is that's possible. And then you can still, from male to female and female to male, and you can still remain very in touch and cultivate respect. But when it becomes.

pervasive throughout your life and everything is about it and you, you know, send your husband a sexy text and he's like, oh, like, send that to him and instead of being like, oh, wow, you're beautiful. I can't wait to taste you or like that, you know, that is when it becomes detrimental, I think. Yeah. I think it's, listen, I think that kind of a guy with that kind of a thing needs help, you know, because I don't know how you could. It doesn't even sound like he wants a relationship.

You know, it's like he wants to be turned down and like what's going on there. I don't know. But how do you expect? Because it sounds like it just goes past like play and fantasy talk. And it's just when it's like the reality of your relationship, I don't know how a connection and intimate connection can last. Yeah. I mean, your guy lasted for a lot longer.

And, you know, maybe if Ares you had met him eight years ago, that would have been the time. He just hadn't met anybody that was really the right guy for you. Yeah, I hadn't. I mean, I've been looking for him this whole time. Yeah. So, and he's just, he's fucking incredible. And it's not just his body. I mean, if you, if you saw him, like, we have to send.

You got to send me pictures for my. Well, first of all, you're going to send me, like, hot pictures for my Patreon. Of course, they should be anonymous, right? But you'll give me pictures of Aries too. And then we're going to have him on. Okay. I'm getting his whole backstory. Wait until you hear, because it was so interesting, because he called.

me like I said on the DL and I had a conversation with him like for advice I'm in love with this dominatrix but she's married but she has a cuck husband like and I don't remember what I told him but I'm assuming he's going to say I was wrong I I'm going to rehash all of that with him don't tell me don't tell me don't tell me don't tell me don't question what did he say in love with me on the call there it was that he was he didn't want to stop seeing you it was like that kind of a thing I don't know if the L word was said but I'm going to get trust me. I'm going to, you're going to hear, I'm going to have a whole episode with him, and I'm going to ask him about the L word with him, and I'm going to get his whole history, and I'm going to get him to put it all out there too. And then, this is the thing, because we're going to wrap this up. This is like a long episode, but this is like, it's fucking great. I could have done just the episode, just not about the dominatrix. Just so your cuck husband relationship thing is so interesting because, like I said, I have had on that story about the cuck that lost his wife to one of the bulls. And, uh, it. I've never heard from the woman in that scenario, you know? And a lot of times the men on YouTube go after those women.

And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, how do you, like, you have to, like, say that, I mean, this guy was allowing her to do this. You know, they, the guy has to take accountability too. As much as I was making you take some accountability for the guy, the bull, the cock that lost his fucking mind and let this all happen, has to take accountability. She's not like a cheating. Like, this is like, she's like a woman that wanted that connection, wasn't having it at home when you're being denied and all that stuff. So I've had it on and I just love this episode. But what is going to be really great and it's going to be is I am having your guy on.

But this is the deal. Okay. You guys have not seen each other in how long? Well. Because I know you have a meeting coming up and I want to, I think I want to talk to him after your meeting. Okay. So you pause here and this will be the part that out or not. So I debated on whether to be honest with you and I hadn't, I haven't discussed this with Aries, but we've actually seen each other four times in the last 30 days.

So why the fuck is he making me wait till the 29? He's so stupid. Because listen, he was, we were supposed to wait until my husband met him. It was another arbitrary obstacle my husband put to kind of like keep our connection fizzling. And so they finally met. So now we have like the official green light. Oh my God. Can I please include this part instead of cutting it out?

Because I need the honest truth. Nobody knows who the fuck you are. This is all a part of the real story. It's so interesting. Yes. Okay. So they met and and now we're having. And so additionally we're having our first overnight.

So the last four times, once he came over, I was sleeping in a separate bedroom in my house and he snuck into my house. So now you're like having an affair. Oh my God. This is so fast. This is the best episode ever. Sorry. Some of it we filmed. And because my husband has always said, cheat on me, cheat on me, do this behind my back.

Don't tell me you fuck people. And so part of it we filmed so that later we can use it as material. and then him and I are really starting to well I mean we tell each other we love each other and we're really starting to kind of get into this cuckled dynamic like at least conversation like the dumb sub conversations between the two of us and how you know he's going to be like oh my god his mind's going to be blown and then after they met my husband was like yeah I would basically lay under you guys what you fucked which we thought was really hot so there is like the only time that I've ever really been into the cuckold thing is right now because

Aries is just such a dominant force and energy like it's I don't know I would do anything with him so he so he's kind of turned on thinking about your little cuck husband to be there and get off and he he's not he doesn't mind keeping him in the fray kind of thing yeah and we do about half of our meetings have been just for us and then half we filmed. Wow. And so, yeah, so we've seen each other four times. Without your husband, a lot of those times were before your husband knew about it, right? Because he didn't want you to meet with him, but you couldn't help it.

Yes. And yes, exactly. Right. So there's that, but this will be our first overnight. And we talk about wanting to do things together now, like wake up together and travel together. So it's just snowballing. And we even talked indirectly and briefly directly about how we would leave together. How you would what?

Leave together. Leave each other's part. Leave partners. Yeah. I can't wait to get that story on his because I need all that backstory. Because I can't believe like where this story has gone since I talked to him probably about like last year. And I have to get his whole backstory to see what's that kind of damage going to do.

what's his relationship. I, okay, so I don't need to wait until the 29 for Aries to come on, okay? He could tell me the whole story now. We don't need to know how different it is after you sleep overnight. I mean, the shit has, I think, reached max capacity right now. I don't think there's any difference. So he has to just call in and so that I could air his episode on Wednesday. So you're going to send me in picks of you, right, for my Patreon.

those I'll need before Friday. Anonymous picks, but hot picks. Like, people like to see hot. Like, the girls always send me in sexy picks, but nothing X-rated. If you want to do X-rated stuff, you could do that over on my Patreon. And you could, like, I have a, my Patreon members pay to get in, and I have a Discord channel. I always, my Discord channel is free for any guest that comes on to go on there if you

want to promote anything and just put yourself out to that small community there. Maybe there's, like, I have 900 people on my Patreon, but there's like 400 people right now in my Discord. So, you know, feel free to go on there. It's free and advertise anything you want to if you'd like to, but you don't have to. But if you could just send me like hot picks for my, like R-rated stuff for my Patreon so people could see how hot you are. Because Aries is going to be on, I want some picks of him too.

That would be cool, right? And then he could do the same when I get my Discord channel if he wants to go there and really, if you want to show his big dick and stuff, like you could do whatever you want to run my Discord channel. I don't get involved over there. Okay. Okay. Oh, amazing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you guys will be sharing that shit over my Discord channel. And anyone that joins my Patreon gets access to that. We are going to hear his episode this Wednesday. Okay, I'm going to air yours first. And then his is going to come. I'm going to get the backstory on him and his little cuck queen wife. And how does he feel about her?

And is he going to leave her? And how did they get in this situation? It is like really fucking interesting. Thank you so much for calling in and telling your. story because it was, I thought at first I was so excited to have you on because I'm like, oh my God, I'm talking to my first dominatrix, but you're so much more than that. Like this became, to me, what's the most interesting is like this whole dynamic that's going on with your very extreme cock husband.

And I never heard from a woman involved in this kind of situation. So it was really super interesting to hear the story from your perspective, from the woman's perspective and because I've only heard it from the guy you know well god I'm glad and then I just texted him and I said you know she doesn't want to wake till the 29th because I broke and I told you the truth that we've been fucking last month I'm not adding any of this out it's so good I'm so glad you broke and you're honest with me all right awesome then you're the best thank you so much for calling in this was fascinating and I really do wish you all the best with your relationship with Aries.

You know, I can't wait to see at the end of the year if you guys are like together or not. You guys will have to keep me posted. Okay, we will. Thank you, Kathy. All right. Thanks so much for calling it and being so honest about everything.

Thank you. What do we call you Raven? Thanks, Raven. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book.

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