Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 623 - Ares is Cheating on his Cuckquean Wife with a Dominatrix

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Aaron cheating on his wife with a dominatrix and he called in to talk all about it. When did his wife reveal she had cuckquean fantasies and how far did they go with those fantasies? How did he get her to give him a free pass to see a dominatrix? And, how did he wind up totally in love with the dominatrix? Tune in to hear all the details including the background on his relationship with his wife, how and why his wife isn’t interested in seeing him be submissive, how she ultimately agreed to him seeing a dominatrix, the ground rules they had, how and why he’s totally into being a submissive and craves it at times, what he asked for when he got to dungeon and saw the first dom, how and why he’s into being physically degraded but not into mental humiliation, how his wife felt after his first experience and how and why she encouraged future experiences, the first time he met the dominatrix he fell for named Raven (episode #623) and how intense it was fro the get go, what exactly went down during their first few sessions and why they decided to stop seeing each other, how and why he couldn’t keep away and reached back out to her,how they ultimately crossed the line and had sex and exactly what went down, how he told his wife about it and how she was jealous at first but then turned on by it, how both him and Raven started cheating on their cuck spouses with each other and why he’s not ready to really be honest about it with his wife, they difference between sex with his wife vs. sex with Raven, how his wife recently bought up being involved in a throuple but how and why that wouldn’t work for him, whether she’s sees a real future with Raven without his wife plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of ARES & RAVEN plus all of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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like more X-rated stuff. I don't get involved in the Discord channel. That's strictly a way for my Patreon members as well as my guests to chat and share pictures and videos and all that kind of good stuff. You'll be able to see my caller today, Aaron, aka Aries, in all of the other. is glory and Raven in all of her glory over on my Discord channel because they're going to go there because she talks all about his big dick and she wants to show him off and that's going to be on my Discord. If you want to join my Patreon, it's only $5 a month.

You get so much for that. But you can cancel it any time. So go join Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Now today I do have on Aaron, aka Aries. This is kind of like a part two to Raven's story because Raven and Aaron are fucking getting it on and they are into each other. Now, if you haven't heard Ravens episode yet, go listen to it. You don't need to. It really doesn't matter who you listen to first because they're both sort of telling their story, their backstory and then their story of how they met

and their connection with each other. Separately, it doesn't matter which one you listen first, like I said. If you missed hers, you're going to want to listen to it after that. If you heard hers already, now you're going to get more of the backstory of his. It's super interesting. So Aaron, aka Aries, is a guy who is into BDSM going to dungeons. He wanted to be a submissive. He's got a super open wife who knew that he wanted to be submissive, but she wasn't into that. She's more into being the submissive. She allowed him to go to a dungeon and get his needs met over there.

She was cool enough for that. She's a little bit of a cuck queen, and he talks about how they were very open about that and they used the cuck queen scenario in the bedroom like they role played that out many times and it was enough for them they never have brought in another woman but his wife likes women she's bisexual so she was into the cuck queen scenario she didn't know how she'd feel at first for him to go to a dominatrix but she allowed him he loved it he talks about how great that experience was and why here he is like a very alpha male, heads up a company, tons of people, all this responsibility. And he talks about how pleasurable it was to let it all go in the fucking dungeon.

He saw a bunch of dominatrix first. He talks about all those experiences. And then he met Raven. And just like Raven, because she had the same experience as him, like the first time they blocked eyes in that dungeon, it was like over. It was one of those kind of chemistry things that was instant. instantaneous for the both of them. He had an amazing experience with her.

He talks a little bit more about exactly what went down. She wanted to keep his first experience with her private because she didn't know how he'd feel about it, but he gets in details. He talks details about what they did in the dungeon the first time he saw her. If you listen to Ravens episode, you know, there's not a lot of sex that's going down in the dungeon. Sex with them happened, though, the second time. Okay.

And it's not supposed to. they started crossing lines. There was a time where he called me up on the DL. It was a private call I had with him because he was confused. He met this fucking dominatrix and he was falling for her. He wanted to fuck her. He wasn't allowed to. That was a boundary that they had, him and his wife had.

And he did. They did wind up having sex. And he talks about how amazing it was, why it was amazing. He talks about the sex that they had. And he did wind up telling his wife. He was honest about that. He talks about that experience, how she reacted. and then how she got turned on and how they used that scenario as foreplay for them ever since.

But what his wife doesn't know and what Raven's cuckled husband doesn't know is that they have grown to like love each other. They have been seeing each other behind their partner's backs continuously a bunch of times. They even tried to lie to me and then she copped to it. you'll hear on her episode where she's like, I'm not supposed to tell you this, but I'm telling you this. They saw each other numerous times. They've been having sex. They can't keep themselves away from each other. They're going away on a private thing coming up soon.

We'll get an update then. But where it stands now is they're in love with each other. He talks about how he feels like, does he want, would he leave his wife or Raven? How does he feel about that? He explains. His wife is open to other situations. Her husband is a cuckold, so his favorite thing is her cheating on him, but he doesn't know. It gets a little murky and confusing towards the end because it is murky and confusing.

This is two people that have partners that they are open with. They have open relationships, quote unquote. Hers more is more open than his. But it's not as open as they need it to be because they are lying to. their partners. And that's the interesting part. And that's where it gets kind of confusing. And that's where they're being very naughty, but they can't keep their hands away from each other. Where are their story is going to wind up? Who the fuck knows? But I'll keep you posted. They will keep me posted. But his story and what's going on with him and Raven from his point of

view is super interesting. If you haven't heard her story after you listen to his, you want to go listen to hers. If you want to see pictures of them, the both of them, Ravens fucking beautiful. I haven't seen him yet, but he will be on Discord. Join my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Aries. Hi, Aries. Your girl Raven was just on my show. I call her your girl. She's not really your girl. You're married. Okay. So we have a lot to fucking talk about. But I just aired an episode with a girl named Raven. I was excited to talk to her about being a dominatrix. But what the episode became, mostly about was the fact that she was married to

and a very extreme hardcore cuck who she's been humiliating and all this stuff for a long time. And then you walked into her fucking dungeon. People have to hear the story from her perspective because she has a lot of backstory. And you have some backstory too. And me and you have a little history

that I need to explain, okay, first because I want to get that onto it. It's a little confusing. But what I do offer my listeners is this option to call me on the DL. I always say I give unprofessional advice. Some people really want to talk about certain things, but they don't ever want it to be aired.

For numerous reasons, I offer that service. People pay for those calls. You are somebody who called on the DL at one time in your life. Your story was went to this Dominatrix. Fucking had a thing with her. Like we have like a lot of chemistry, right? Kind of. she's married I'm married your wife knows correct but you just couldn't keep away from her but you

wanted to or she was trying to keep away from you what was that what wasn't that where you were at when we last spoke yeah that's where we were at and what kind of bad advice did I give you because I feel like I gave you the wrong advice because you guys are like fully involved now okay so yeah you basically um you mentioned that it would be better if we parted ways right from whatever you did but you didn't impart waves Okay, and I love being wrong, okay? You didn't part ways. If anything, you're more involved with this girl,

and it is so much more messy than when you first called me a long time ago. That's right. Yeah, she's smitten for you. The L word, meaning the love word, has been thrown around by the both of you. Okay, she copped on her episode that you guys were trying to lie to me about seeing each other or not seeing each other, but you have seen each other. So she spilled the beans. And then she told me after she spilled the beans that she texted you and told you she spilled

the beans. So you got to just be fucking straight up with me now, okay? Because she was. That's right. All right. She was. But let's start your story. We need some backstory on you.

You have a wife. And now when you were seeing her as a dominatrix, your wife was okay with this. But there was a rule in place. Like you could do this, but you can't fuck her. And then you did, but you told your wife, like, give me some backstory on that whole situation. You have an open relationship with your wife? Not necessarily open. So she is interested in kind of a cut queen type of scenario, which hopefully your listeners know what that.

Yeah. Yeah. So she likes the idea of other women finding me attractive. Mm-hmm. And she is more submissive. I'm more dominant in the bedroom. And that has led to me seeking out some dominatrix so I could experience letting go of the control of the power. And I've been fairly successful in my professional life.

And, you know, being in charge of a company, you'd look for an opportunity to find a release, an escape. And so I began seeing some dominatrixes. Just to kind of scratch that itch, if you will. With your wife's permission? Yes. But before we jump to that, because we're going to get involved in that whole story, I just want to know a little backstory about you and your wife. So you're married to this woman.

Like, when do you guys start talking about these cuck queen scenarios and you going to Dominatrix? Like, were you guys really vanilla at one point? Or have you always been very open to different things? No, we've been pretty kinky. and like I said, she's more submissive. And so we've played with ropes and floggers and, you know, different types of control aspects in the bedroom.

But she was not able to provide that in return. And that is a type of escape where I was looking to experience. And she wasn't comfortable in that role. And so she was very, supportive of me seeking that out just as long as, you know, ground rules were followed. And typically that's pretty easy. Professional dominatrix, it's, I mean, it's obviously legal here in the United States. And there's a lot of strict boundaries because they want to, I mean, they're their own

independent businesses, right? So it's, there's a lot of trust involved and you don't want to just go to somebody. If you see a professional, like I agreed with my wife, that there's some level of of comfort there. It's not going to develop into anything beyond, right? So, you know, lo and behold, I've reached out to a few and then it led me to Raven. All right, but how do you tell your wife, like, do you sit her one day down one day and say, listen, like, I want to be submissive to some time. You know, I have, I want to feel that release. Like, do you mind me go into a dominatrix? And What does she say?

Like, how does that conversation go down? Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how it went down the first time. You know, but I can tell you that her consensus was she didn't want to view me in that situation. She wants to look at me as a pillar of strength and her protector. Yeah. And, you know, she wants to, you know, put me up on this pedestal. And to be submissive would be detrimental to that vision. of me in her eyes.

Yeah, well, you know, listen, you have your girl Ravens relationship, which is the very extreme form of that, and look what fucking happens. But even your wife is being honest, like straight up, and I hear this a lot of the time from guys who do want to be submissive, that their girl just, they're not into being that switch. They don't want to be. They don't want to be the Dom. It's a difficult thing.

Most women want to, you know, the caveman to throw her over their, you know, their arm and like, she'd fucking. They grow up. They're up. They want that. They want that. Yeah. Yeah.

So you were very open and honest with each other. It sounds like you and your wife as far as communication. We've had a great relationship. I mean, she's my queen and that's something that I'm very happy to have found. Oh, I'm already getting worried, okay, because I know that Ravens in love with you and you've used the word love with her because that's what she told me. And I know that she's wanting to leave her guy for you and seems ready, willing, and able to do that. And I'm worried of where you're at with your wife, but I don't want to jump there just yet. So when do you find out and when does your wife start copping to the fact that she has some cuck queen fantasies of her own?

So she likes the idea of me getting looks in restaurants or if we go out to the movie theater. and she's by a little bit too so we can talk about, you know, women being attractive. And so she experimented like a lot of girls do in college and she considers herself bisexual. I just happen to be the one that snagged her, you know. Now, were you ever to have you ever brought a girl into the relationship

when you guys have been together? Any threesomes? No, we have never had a threesome. Okay. And we've talked about it. And, you know, in the bedroom, she likes Dirty Talk. And we would fantasize about how, you know, pretend a lot of role playing is involved there, too. Yeah, yeah, why not?

That's fun. It can be somebody else. And I say, hey, you know, I'm going to, what would my wife think while I'm fucking you? Or, you know, I wonder, I wonder if she knows we're together. She likes stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You role play. Yeah, it gets her off.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And, you know, I never, never thought twice. I mean, it was, it was always exciting to me. She, she satisfied me. Yeah. But she just wasn't able to fulfill that switch role that I just wanted to release control. And I just wanted to be taking care of and feel safe.

But you wanted to let it go. You wanted to let go and feel that way. You wanted what you were given to her given to you. Right. I mean, at one point in time, I had, you know, 90 to 100 employees. And it was just exhausting being, you know, a dad to 90 people. And I just wanted somebody else to think for me for a minute and just switch my brain off. Well, that's what it always is.

That's the typical guy, they say. And a lot of times people think it's counterintuitive, but it's really not if you think about what's going on. It is typically that CEO or that alpha guy who does want to switch it out and be the submissive because he's not in his regular life. Like it's the same thing with alpha females. Like a lot of times I'm an alpha female and I'm really fucking bossy and stuff. And, you know, I think some sub guys think I'd be the best. And I'm like, no, you don't understand.

I'm alpha every minute of the fucking day in my life. Like when I'm in the bedroom or I'm on vacation, I want to switch off. My switch off is submissive, you know. And so it's very common that a guy like you needs that kind of release. And like I said before, it's so great that you were able with your wife to be so open about it. And you put it out there. And she was cool with you to say, like, okay, I can't give you this, but go and get yourself what you need someplace else. Sure.

And I probably don't put this in the podcast, but just to give you a little background. No, no, I need everything in my podcast. Can you please put a little bit in the background if you need, but keep it like generic so that, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I was a model for a time that I used to go on tours. And she, and this was while I was married. And she really thought that that was extremely sexy knowing that I would come home to her. Oh.

And so that I really think helped develop some of her desires. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, we never acted out on it. I never sought another woman. And she didn't ask me to seek another woman. But it was fun for her to think that I was attractive to other people and she had me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was sort of like a little cuck queen fantasy and doing it with you and talking about it while you were having sex was enough.

I mean, right? Right. But what you guys had wasn't enough for you. You weren't, you didn't need to see her with another woman. But what you needed that you weren't getting in your playing with her was this the whole you being a sub. And that's why you needed to go elsewhere. And that's where she said, okay. Right.

And that's not my natural tendency, right? I'm extremely voracious. I mean, I absolutely love sex. Can't get enough of it, ready to go at any point in time. But I just needed a scenario where I could turn my brain off a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. That's like I said, it's very common.

That's how it goes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So you wind up letting her know and being honest about that to her. And she says, okay, do what you got to do. Go to a dominatrix? Yeah, go to a dominatrix. But she initially was a little bit worried because it's new.

It's a new experience. I don't know what it is. Mm-hmm. But we had a ground rule where I just keep my pants on. And that's my, like my box of briefs, I keep those on. And it would relieve any tendencies. It would still be hers, but I could scratch my itch. And, you know, everybody wins.

I come home, you know, have sex with her, tell her I had a good time. You know, my mind's reset. Batteries recharge. Back to work in the office. Here we go. Yeah. And what's great is I'm sure your wife did a little intel or like investigation of her own. I mean, BDSM isn't what people think.

There's not, no. There's no sex going. down in those dungeons. I don't think a lot of people understand that. Your girl explained it and we touched upon that. I was very surprised about that when I first started to do my show because I think everybody

like read that stupid book, 50 Shades of Gray and I think that that was very sexual. I don't know what it was, but it became very mainstream, but when I've talked to people in the BDSM world, it wasn't like anything like that fucking movie. I mean, I don't even read the book, but it just doesn't seem like it was like how

they portrayed it. So your wife would be secure in knowing that you're going to go to a dungeon and there isn't sex going on there, correct? No. That's correct. So, I mean, dominion, domination, submission, masochism

and sadism, they all have their own like places. Yeah. Some people need things that other people don't and it's a way for people to find release or find it's almost spiritual. space is a real thing yeah and one of the things that i've found through raven that i really enjoyed

was um choking and to be i mean i'm a i'm a big strong guy she she tried to put me in a fucking um a face sitting chair but my fucking neck won't fit in it you know i'm i'm a big fucking guy oh yeah she talked about how hot and what a big fucking guy you are and uh you know i can I can lift her over my, I can fuck her against a wall for an eternity as she just drips on the floor, you know, and it's just incredible. She's incredible. You know, no, no, you're jumping the story. Okay, just hold on a little bit. Okay, let's talk about this. We're at the point where you're not fucking anybody because you're going just to get, you know, beat up a little bit and come home to your girl. Okay, don't jump to the place where we all know you got where you did fuck her, okay? But you're there and she's into joking. It's funny because when I talked to her, I did my whole. PSA because I have this thing about choking. Like I really am always, when it comes up in a conversation with a guy, I'm always like, I just need to give a shout out that you just don't fucking choke each other during sex. And I said to Raven and, you know, the only time you really want to do it is

maybe with somebody like her, a professional who really understands the right way to do it because it is very dangerous. But somebody that's a dominatrix and she explained this, like you learn all these techniques and there's things that, you know, you have to go through all that kind of educating yourself. So you can do those things in a safest way possible because choking each other out when you're having sex or being choked out when you're having sex to me is a dangerous thing. Okay. So a lot of those dominatrix and people in that world, they apprentice to somebody that's been doing it for years. I mean, it's truly like a journeyman and a master of a trade. It's a real deal. Yeah, she said she learned from a very famous one, right? Oh, of course, yes. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. She didn't give a name or anything, but she did say that she learned with somebody very famous in that world, you know, but she went through a lot of, she had to learn a lot of different techniques. And so here. She's incredibly talented. Yeah. So there you are. You go to her and you want to be choked out?

Not the first time. So I went there and I wanted to be, I wanted to be bound. I wanted to be helpless. And I just wanted to be, I'm not into, I'm more into degradation than humiliation. Okay. And what's the difference? Explain that that kind of difference. So with degradation, I enjoy being almost possessed less than what I am.

Whereas in humiliation, it tears you down mentally a lot. So more physical degradation than mental humiliation. I'm into degradation. I want to be tied up. I want to be, you know, we talked about golden showers. We talked about spit and just, you know, just be present. Yeah. And submit to an individual without being humiliated.

I mean, I, that's something I'm not. I'm an alpha male. I am. I don't want to be humiliated. I'll be degraded, but I don't want to be humiliated because I will fight back. I will jump right out of subspace.

And I know that about myself. You have your lines, but that's what's so great about these kinds of scenarios if you go into a dungeon in a professional way like that. Everything is talked about ahead of time, correct, so that you get that exact experience

that you want. And you'll sit there on the couch and you'll talk beforehand and and then there's aftercare to you. They want to make sure you're okay, you're safe. They send you on your way. It's a beautiful, beautiful scenario. As much as people need therapy and, you know, to talk to somebody, this is an option, too.

You can find out things about yourself that you had no idea about and just be a better version of yourself. What did you learn about yourself? Can you think of anything that you could talk about? Because I think that's interesting. I just would like to hear it more specific. Yeah, it allows me to just recharge my batteries. If I can just disappear into the hands of somebody that I know can take care of me,

to relinquish control is the ultimate form of control at the same time, because you're choosing to do it, and that's how I look at it. Interesting. I always like to be in control. And the sub is always in control. If you think about it, you can always safe word out. You could always change the scene. you can call a hard stop.

Yeah, they have the say because they're the sub and they need to the most protection, but therefore they have the biggest voice in a weird way, correct? It's an odd scenario. It's different than a lot of people from the outside that aren't in the community might look at it. And so it's very unique. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people, most people that aren't in the know in the BDSM world have a very skewed view of things. I get a lot of weird comments whenever I post an episode,

especially about a woman that wants to be a sub and wants to be quote unquote beat up or whatever it is. People can't fucking wrap their heads around it, you know? I mean, there's people that absolutely get to live in shit beat out of them and love it. I mean, that's, that happens too. Yeah, I know, I know. So you, but your thing is you'd wanted to like release control, be bound and helpless. And that's your way of just letting it. all ago. And that's... Right. And so I've been in, I've seen a few dominatrix.

Okay. And, you know, actually in that same dungeon, I'd seen a different individual lady. And it was... But right. She was too aggressive. It was, it wasn't the scenario I was looking for. It didn't, it wasn't like a nurturing domination. And that's something Raven really walks the line of perfectly. Like, you can tell she, She likes what she's doing. Yeah. She tailors the scene to the individual. Mm-hmm. And all of them do.

But in my experience. Yeah. But there was something different. But we can get into that the first minute I walked in the door. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get to that first. But I just want to know about your experiences in general. And also how your wife felt after your first experience.

And she asked you a lot of questions. Do you use that as fantasy talk, you know, when you got home? Not so much fantasy talk. because it still portrays me in a submissible. Right. Right. Yep. But she would notice an immediate change in me.

And it's not like I'm seeing somebody once a week. I actually live quite a ways away from the locations where a lot of these things exist. I'm a fairly remote rural area. And, you know, I'm saying once, maybe twice a year. I mean, it is not a lot. Like when I'm reaching the breaking point and just need a place to hide, I'd go and do that. Right. And she could see it.

She could tell. That it was helping you and that it was beneficial. Both. So she could tell what needed it and she could tell that it helped. Oh, interesting. Okay. So she was like, oh, I think it's about time. You go get your little Phil.

Yeah. If I bring it up, she goes, yep, you know. Right, right. So she was okay with it. You know, I mean, because I would assume that in the beginning before you went that first time, maybe even though she's like, I'm cool with this, she might have had some reservations. She doesn't know how she's going to feel. But it turned out that she was like it was a totally okay thing. Right.

Because I came home to her, right? Yeah. And I continued to come home to her. And I made her feel like my world. And, you know, the relationship stayed the same. If not, you know, improve. So there's no threat to To the hole, right?

Yeah, but what happens when you walk in And you see fucking Raven And you know, explain what happens when you walk in that The minute you saw her Fuck, that was intense That was If I look back One of the most intense moments of my life

Only to be Eclipsed by the moment that she was on her knees in front of me and our eyes met and it was like time stood still and a thousand words couldn't describe. It was

my goodness. Fuck. Yeah. Yep. There's that. Yeah. So that immediately the minute you saw and that's the stuff like I think I said to her like you can't bottle that off. You can't sell it. You can't create it. Like that is just, that's chemistry.

That's that thing between two people that rarely happen. That's and when it does, you're like, what the fuck? She introduced herself with a real name to me. I mean, it's like, I didn't even know where I was. I mean, it's like a movie. Yeah. It was like a movie.

It was intense. Yeah, so it's like that once in a lifetime feeling you had when you met her, you had been with other dominatrix. Now, I wonder when you come home from that first experience, does your wife smell anything different, or is everything like you keep it on the DL, this whole extra thing that happened? Well, after the first meeting, I kept it on the DL. Yeah.

And the second meeting, which we'll probably talk about here shortly, was where we had decided we probably shouldn't see each other anymore because we both knew. Right, that this is going to cross boundaries. And that's when you called me, because she was being professional. and saying, listen, I can't do this. Even though she was in an open relationship, and she not only does her husband allow her to fuck other people, he like pushes her to fuck other people.

Right, right. Yeah. So just tell me, though, a little bit about that first experience. You see her. You guys don't have any kind of sex, but there's like intense chemistry. Like what went down? Let's see. That first meeting, I remember she.

had some nail clifting. She was like, she clipped her toenails and she was, she fed me those, uh, brushed her teeth and used me kind of like a spittoon. But it was so much more than that. I remember Kathy, when I walked through the door and she introduced herself as, her and it ended up being the same name as my wife what yeah no way same name and and then she was like okay well i you know take your clothes off get on your knees and i took my clothes off i took my shirt off and she's like fuck and of course like i'm on the i'm on the chase now like i could feel the tension in the air so you know, I get into that hunter mode. And so I'm, I do want to be submissive, but at the same time, I'm, I'm on the attack.

Yeah. And that's just, that's, that's who I am. Right. Oh, so that's interesting, right? So here you are really wanting to switch up. But now it's, that's a little bit of crossing the boundary for you, I would feel like, too, because like that other part of you that belongs to your wife now is there too. And it's like attracted to her on a different level, right?

And that's like typically not what you're bringing to those dungeons. Right. But I revert to my natural state. Yeah. That's what I mean. But that's where you're like, this is different because you didn't do that with those other girls, I'm assuming.

Right. And I, you know, before we knew it, we were, I mean, I wasn't naked, but I know she did get naked.

And, but we were very professional. Absolutely professional. And the scene happened. the way the scene happened. And we said goodbye. I mean, it was very, you know, your typical deal. But there was, there was not tension, but there was electricity in the air.

It was crazy. Yeah. And she said, you know, the next time, if I ever see you again, you better be wearing a fucking potato sack. Oh, wow. I remember her telling me that. Yeah. And just for fucking shits and giggles. Like I reached out to where I actually had a.

I had a competition the next day and I won I won some cash and I reached out to her and said, hey, I was in a perfect headspace. I want to see you again. I'm going on a trip, but when I come back in a month, we are going to get together. And so we set another date for a meeting in the dungeon. And this is that second time, right? This is the second time. Okay.

And I've got a, and this is after that second time is when I called you. had a whole Reddit thread that I wrote on that entire meeting that went through it step by step by step because I'm just like writing is therapeutic to me and I wanted to kind of get it out there get advice but it's great for advice. Do you want to give your Reddit thread out in case people want to dig deeper into this? If you want to get a shout out you can. What's your Reddit? Yeah, what is it? Monday is Chess Day. Monday is Chess Day. Okay, get that, write that people. I'll put that name in the description but if you want to hear the de I'm going to get some details for my listeners too but if people really want step by step written out you know stuff they could go to your

reddit Monday is chest day so tell me like walk me through what goes down in that session that's just so fucking amazing so it starts out and I'm I'm tied to a bench no no the session started out with me getting choked and so she put the cuffs on my leg my arms and I said hey I saw this video of this guy getting choked out by this girl and it was like this big bodybuilder guy you know similar to my build and I was like man that would be great that would be really sexy and I was still trying to be professional to some extent um hey you should uh let's try that out do you think do you think you can do this and she goes yeah yeah I can do that And so she goes behind me and she puts me in like the sleeperhold.

And I'm kind of new to it. But she was watching me. And it was the most euphoric experience of my life. If anybody, I'm not saying that everybody needs to try this, but like to feel the blood rushing back into your body. No, stop. Yeah, don't promote it because I really think it's a very dangerous thing. It's like Russian roulette. I know it's like a high, but people fucking die from it.

So like, I know. Don't die. Don't die. But no, I've heard. Like, I've had people, I think if you're doing it with someone like her, and we talked about this specifically, like she really knows pressure points and nerves and all that stuff because she's professionally trained. She also knows jihitsu, you know, all that stuff.

So I just don't want to glorify being choked out and how great it is because people do that a lot and you do hear horror stories I'm anti it in any other way, shape, or form. Only do it with someone professional because I think it's very dangerous. There's a fine line. Well, when I am in that moment

and like I'm coming back to it's almost like the best drug you've ever been on. It's great. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why people fucking die from it. But so is heroin. Harrowin's great too, but everyone, you shouldn't go do it. Okay. do heroin.

But the way people explain heroin is the same way you're explaining this. It sounds so fucking great. You ever was he train spotting? I was like, oh my God, this movie makes me want to go to heroin. But, you know, it's dangerous. So anyway, so she's like, so it's an amazing experience. So much that you call me and pay for a phone call with me on the DL because you're having issues here because here you are allowed by your wife,

who's so super cool and amazing that she's allowing you to do. this thing. But now you're feeling like you're crossing this line because you have these extra feelings for this girl and you're not allowed to fuck her or do anything with this girl. Right. But like that

second meeting, it started out with the choking and then we moved to the bench where she tied me down to the bench and then we played like guess what body part this is. And I was blindfolded. it got a little risque which was great and at one point in time she was standing over me and I'm still trying to be professional and like I could definitely tell that it was it was getting intense and I asked her if I could taste her and it kind of went from there I ended up going down on her and she was filming it for her husband too so she asked me if she could film me and I said

said no problem let's do it. Did you go all the way with her that time? No. Okay. No, no, no. Okay. But you did have like more sex than normal in that kind of situation. Right.

So that's kind of a frowned upon because that's, you know, what happens, happens. But it's not non-tpical in a dungeon. So if anybody that has a wife, has a husband that's going to see this, this is non-typical. Yeah. And I remember distinctly the climax. like moment of that entire session was when she was coming to untie me and she was on her knees in front of me and was getting the restraints off of my my ankles and she looked up into my eyes and I looked down at her and it was a moment that I will never forget.

Right. Something else was going on. Yeah. For the both of us. immediately after that we just kind of snapped out of it and we decided that it was a good idea that we part ways and never see each other again but there was a comment that she'd made

that that she couldn't stop smiling and that haunted me after I left and so I was like divided between whether this is something that is good because

I felt the same way. I couldn't stop smiling. You know, obviously a connection. And, you know, doing what may be the right thing to do. But what's right and what's wrong? And so

I, it took a few months. I called you and... That's why I love my calls on the D.L. I say it all the time. Like, I hear the most interesting stories. Most of the time I'm like, oh, I wish I could have this on my fucking show. And it it is one of the ones where now I get it on my show because I remember this whole story. I'm like, it was like fascinating to me, you know?

You called me because you, you do want to reach back out. You wanted to go back there. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted, I wanted more. I wanted to see her again. I wanted to see what that was. And it turns out it was incredible.

So wait, in between that time that she cut you off or you guys decided you're not going to see each other again and you called me, Were you seeing other dominatrix or anything like that? I've never seen another dominatrix. Okay. So you, all right. So now you decide eventually to go back to her, correct? I told you not to. You didn't listen to me, which I love.

Okay. So you wind up going back to her and seeing her again? I'll be honest. Maybe because you told me not to that I did it. I love it. Hilarious. That's awesome. me know.

Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm wired the same way, so I get it. And I have a seven-year-old son, so I understand. I should have known. But all right, so, okay, so you wind up connecting with her again. Now, are you seeing her in the dungeon the third time? What happens then? Right. I saw her in the dungeon the third time.

Okay. And at that point in time, I remember, I mean, the whole thing's a freaking blur. I remember being bound by my hands and light flogging. I remember, oh, I used a dildo on her then in that particular scenario too. Now, because typically when you're going to a dominatrix, everything is agreed upon ahead of time and they know what kind of scenario you're going into. Like because you have this extra other thing going on, like did you set up certain things? Like was the dildo like on the menu or did that just sort of happen? That just sort of happened.

I remember I brought a fucking Sibian there too, but I forgot the power cord. So we didn't get to use it. Was it your wife's the Sibian? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Does your wife know you're bringing the Sibian for the girl? I did not tell her I was going to bring the Sibian. No.

All right. This is where it starts to get into the little gray area, right? Because listen, you're not calling me in the DL because you think you're doing something that's right with your wife, too. I mean, you have this primary relationship. this point you're crossing lines correct yeah there i mean there was a fire that can't be ignored i i'd really do you have you ever heard the term twin flames yeah of course and i think i think that that that's a real thing and you know i'm one of those believers in energy and going through life sometimes we find our our twin flame and i we're both

like absolutely insatiable, we will burn the entire world down to get to each other type of thing. And I've told her that before. It just feels that way. The intensity and the voraciousness, the absolute, like, desire is unbelievable, uncomparable. Really? And because even though you did start out saying, like, your wife is like you're right or die. Like she is like amazing. I mean, how do you feel about your relationship with her after you're having these feelings for Raven?

Have you ever seen the bridges of Madison County? Yes, but I don't really remember it. But you could use that as a reference. Someone described that movie in my Reddit thread. And sometimes you love somebody so much that. you just want to protect them. And I would, I would say that's how I feel about my, my wife. Even if I felt an emotional, emotional and physical connection, like I've never felt,

I want my wife to have something wholesome in her life. And if I can, if I can be that in a constant, I will. Okay. But how do the two things exist? I mean, because you are having sex with Raven. You did cross that line. Let's keep to the story. Okay, so we'll get to the whole bigger picture, like, what the fuck's going to happen now?

Sure. Because I feel like you're kind of like in a weird scenario. But eventually you're not, you're not, I mean, you and your wife have a rule. You're not supposed to have sex. But you eventually do. And you do wind up telling your wife. Like, let's talk about that. So I could talk about the sex, which is what I would tell my wife.

And so I invited Raven and her husband. I have some connections here with local retreats. And I invited Raven and her husband up into our neck of the woods for a weekend. Now, does your wife know about that? You're inviting the dominatrix to this scenario? Yes. Okay. Yes.

Okay. So I invited Raven and her husband up to a retreat, local retreat. It's like a five-star luxury resort. I had some connections and, you know, kind of set everything up and I just wanted them to enjoy a nice weekend. But her husband couldn't come. And she ended up bringing a girlfriend to this, to this retreat. And so I just wanted to make sure they were having a good time and ended up showing up. And because it was specifically supposed to be a weekend retreat for her and her husband. Like that was it was a nice gesture. I was trying to do something nice. I live in a very beautiful area of the state that we live in and the fall,

this was in the fall, is absolutely incredible. So I was it was like a gift and it ended up being a rendezvous between the two of us. It's starting with a hot tub meeting. Well, I showed them where, you know, one of the private hot tubs I knew was located. And I obviously didn't bring a suit. I wasn't planning on anything, but ended up joining them in the hot tub. And at that point in time, we're still trying to separate ourselves. I'm not a great storyteller, Kathy. Don't worry.

I make sure it'll all sound perfect when we get to there. Go on. Would you wind up doing both of them? No. No. I only have eyes for her. Okay. So you're in the hot tub, though, with her and her first.

her girlfriend that wound up coming with her, but you're naked. I'm, you know, butt-ass naked there in the hot tub. And this gal, Raven, like, backed up into her and was like, you have to, like, protect me. Like, I can't control myself around him. And then I can feel me, you know, I want, I want her. So I'm, you know, making my way toward her in the hot tub. And we're right there in the moment. And one thing led to another.

And before you know it, I basically ripped her out of this girl's arms. And we started our thing right there outside the hot till we got out so that we could get video for her husband. And it was a weekend of unforgettable sex after that. I mean, we're talking like 12 hours of sheets soaked fucking. And riding that high the entire time. Oh, yeah. She told me she squirts. So, I'm like so sad.

Oh my God. She's incredible. He's fucking incredible. And so, yeah, she can definitely squirt. You got her to square 12 hours. You're fucking her. Like, where does your wife know that this is all going down? No, at this point she doesn't.

At this point in time, does not have a clue. Does not have a clue. And so that's where I'm a little obviously nervous because I need to share this. I want to be open and honest. And that conversation would happen. I wish I could say, Kathy, that it happened right away, but I waited about a week. Okay.

If I remember correctly. And it was a tough initial night. That was tough. But she ended up, she ended up waking me up the following day and was extremely turned on. And we just had some of the most. most amazing sex we've ever had the day after. Wow. So the first day, her first initial reaction probably was like jealousy and stuff, but because she's got that little cuck queen thing,

somehow it turned into like she was also turned on by this scenario. Right. And it ended up being material that we've used ever since. Now, we've talked about Raven in the bedroom in the past. I mean, it's, she's an attractive woman. She's incredible. And obviously, my wife. She's heavy picks for my Patreon. We all see how fucking hot she is. Fuck, isn't she smoking? Yeah, people are going to have to go to my website to see her. So we've used

her. But this is, you used her as like fantasy talk, but this is when you were just seeing her as a dominatrix before you fucked her. Yes, absolutely. And my wife obviously goes online and she'll look at who I've seen as a dominatrix. And so, you know,

Raven and I, we've shot different photos and we've, kind of nurtured that cuckold cut queen relationship with our significant others. At least, I can say that I've done that on my side. But with the caveat that it never went physical until that moment. Right. Now, does your wife know when you told your wife all the stuff that went down to, you tell her that you videotaped it for the husband? Ooh, that's a good question. I don't remember, but she does know that we've taped for her husband in the past. Okay. Did she ever ask to see it? I haven't shared that with her, no. Okay. So you wind up telling her she's

horrified at first and then she's turned on and you guys now are having great sex thinking about it. Yes. Okay. And then what happens? Because, you know, does she like, does she ever eventually find out that you have these strong feelings for Raven too besides great sex? Because those are two different things. And we didn't really discuss feelings until here recently. So this would have been back in September that this happened. And then we decided we need a break from each other again. You and Raven. Yep.

We need a break from each other. And so we put each other down for, I think it was five weeks. And then we kind of parted ways. But around the turn of the year, I was like, yeah, we got to talk. Like this is, we can't ignore this. Yeah. So, yeah, we started to see each other again on the down low. Right.

And she eventually, and this is a part of her story. And if people haven't heard her story, you're going to go, fucking listen. But, you know, she eventually tells her guy about this. And she's pretty open. And there's a rule that you guys are going to see each other again. again until the husband meets you, but you guys do wind up seeing each other again, correct? Like this is when you both start to become secretive about what's going on with both your partners, not just yours. She's also doing the same with hers.

Right. I went down there for my birthday and had to do something in the city. And we met for coffee and ended up having sex outside. in one of the vehicles. And it was, it was incredible. It was intense. It was fantastic. I loved it. Yeah, cheating sacks and cars.

I don't know why. I love it. But she also came up to see me and stayed in that same retreat. And it was, didn't book a room or anything. It was just a day trip. But, yeah, we, God, we got some great video of that of us fucking there. But I remember it was like four, four, five hours of just us enjoying each other.

She at one point in time, she's skipping over toward me. And I like lift her up and, you know, show her on my dick and put her against a wall. And I'm just, she just wants to be satisfied. And we've only been able to find that in each other physically. I mean, to be physically satiated and have that kind of sex for that long. And just be in that headspace is incredible. And she likes to be slapped, you know, like we'll hang her head off the side of the bed and, you know, I'll shove my cock down her, down her throat. And when she when she has to gag or spit up, you know, I'll slap her and, you know, I might kiss her and and then go back right.

back to it. And I'll check her every now and then to see where she's at, what color she is. You know, if she's like what, if she's still green or if she's hitting yellow, you know, it's kind of tough to talk when you got a dick down your throat, right? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. So, hey, you know, what color are you? And she'd say green. And so I know that she's safe and she's enjoying it. And, uh, Yeah, it's just truly, truly incredible. And that's really where the feelings developed, I believe, there. At least we vocalized them in that particular meeting.

Yeah, well, what's interesting? You know, I watch this show, and I fucking love it. And it's called Married at First Site, you know, and I feel like the experts, you know, meet all these people and they get all their stats and then they put them together, you know, based on those stats. And I feel like if you guys both came in from Married at First Site, I would be like, oh, my God, these two are so perfect for each other because it's such a weird concoction that each one of them has and they both have it.

And so it fits like a puzzle because like here you are a guy who's very alpha, but who also is very in touch with the side of him that wants to be submissive and wants to fucking be dominated every now and then. And here this girl is who's very rare. I mean, right? She wants a fucking alpha and hasn't met that guy that could be the alpha for her. She mentioned that on her episode, right? But she also knows how to be a fucking dom and enjoys it.

Every now and then she could be. She's a fucking dominatrix. She loves that. But she also wants to be dominated. So you guys really give to each other the exact two things that I think, like, I just think it's hard to find, you know? Twin flames, Kathy. Right. It's so, okay, so you have, because you're two twin flames, like,

And you have been meeting each other and you said you hadn't told your wife about the feelings yet. Have you told her about the feelings since? So I haven't discussed the feelings of affection. It's only ever been physical if and when my wife talk about it. And so this has all been kind of on the download this past month. And we're supposed to have this big meet on the time. 29th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sleepover. And it's going to be, yeah, big overnight. I booked a little cabin, and we were going to, I think we decided on a time frame of 18 hours. Like, we have to cut it off at 18 hours. You guys are so dumb with your things, but that's okay. I mean, it's interesting. I kind of like boundaries like that. It's fun. But where does your wife think you're going? Does she know you're going with the Dominateshex for this overnight or no?

My wife doesn't know anything about this particular meeting. And so we had this. decided that it would be better to wait until after the 29th to talk to my wife in case she vetoed it. Oh my God. This is fucking lying 101. Just what everyone does. You know, it's kind of like human nature 101. Right.

You don't want to say anything because you don't want them to say no. And then you then you can't do it. And so you're just going to fucking do it. So you're just lying regardless. But because you were like so honest with me, you were acting as if you hadn't seen her those four times. I mean, you did cop to the fact that you had sex with her once to your wife. Did you guys decide after that conversation that you would never do it again?

Because you have been seeing her and having sex with her again after that. Does your wife know about those scenarios? Or does she think it's like a one and done thing? She knows we're talking. We've talked. Okay. And I actually, I reached out that first time that we reconnected and asked. and asked if maybe a dungeon scenario would be appropriate.

But we both know that that wasn't what either one of us wanted. And as far as my wife's heads at, I don't know. We still use Raven as material for us in the bedroom just the other day. But does she know that you've had sex with her more than once? No. Okay. And she didn't say like, oh, I don't want you fucking see. I just want this to be professional.

I mean, like, does she, you know, like, does she know you're still seeing her? She knows you talking, but she doesn't know your meeting with her, right? So, and I know from Raven, because I just spoke with her, you know, her husband asked her flat out, like, are there feelings? And she lied. She said no. Right. So as far as her husband knows and my wife knows, the next time after we had sex that we're going to meet is going to be the 29th. So both of your, okay, so this is interesting.

I don't think I got this from her. So this meeting that you guys are having on the 29th is a scheduled meeting that your wife knows about and her husband knows about? My wife does not know about this meeting. Okay, so what the fuck did you just say? What her husband does. Okay, right.

Her husband does. Sorry, if I... No, don't worry. It's a little confusing situation. You know, it's getting like, it's getting murky because now we're talking about like that, like, you know, there's dishonesty and people, People don't really know and they kind of know, you know, and there's other partners here.

So it's murky. Go on. But as far, because I just met with her husband this past weekend. Okay. Right. First time. And as far as he is aware, we haven't seen each other since the first time we had sex. Right.

Which is kind of confusing because this is the guy that begs her to cheat on him. So she did videotape it. like he gets turned on by it because and that's what's so confusing about that guy you know in a weird way exactly what's going down is something that would like kind of turn him on right but my wife here lately she has been open with me about asking if i need somebody else or something else in the relationship and so she had talked about a thruple and i didn't know what a thruple was i had to look that up or actually um i learned what it and then she's He's asked me if I've needed a girlfriend.

Oh, gosh. And so, I mean, there's some opportunities here. And I want things to work out where everybody gets what everybody needs. That's the goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I really want to see this through on the 29th before I jeopardize my ability to have that moment. Before you jeopardize what? The ability to have that moment.

Right, right. I get it. Like this is where I get confused. Like I was kind of like, why wouldn't you tell your husband that you have feelings? It's kind of like what he's into, right? And why won't you tell your wife about the 29th? And therein lies the elephant in the room that no one's talking about.

Like, because you're both with partners that are pretty open and pretty okay, you know. But if it was a thruple scenario, you would fucking tell her because she said, I'm down for a thruple scenario. There's something else going on here that's making you guys lie. And I think that that's this thing where this relationship seems like it's about something just between the two of you and not about your partners. Yeah, I don't think I disagree with you. we've definitely crossed a line where there's a lot of feelings right now. And it's very unique.

I didn't anticipate this, didn't expect it. I could offer to say I didn't want this either. But right now I'm staring it in the face. You can't get away from it. You can't stop. You couldn't stop back when I talked to. That was a long time ago. I mean, this has been going on for a while.

It's like the train has left the station. Where it winds up will be interesting, right? That's right. Let me ask you this, because I know she's in love with you. I believe she's ready to leave that guy that has played it out. I mean, it sounds like she wasn't really even happy ever with the scenario that she has going on. Now. She wants to feel wanted.

She wants to feel needed. Yeah, yeah, not pushed away to. go fuck other guys all the time and not really get her needs met either. I mean, she explained it very well. I mean, so, and that's what was so interesting about her story, hearing from the hot wife with the extreme cuck, because a lot of times when I've had that story on from the cuck scenario, the people all talk about, oh, the wife, like what the fuck, like she caught feelings. I mean, I think that both people have to take accountability for what they're doing in it, for sure, you know, like for me, I said to her, like, you know,

you did fucking lie and why wouldn't you tell him the truth and it's not totally his fault you know she was with him for a very long time but i want to know with you do you see some sort of future with her that doesn't include your wife i love raven very much i do and there's a connection that i've never felt that i have with her but at the same time my wife comes from a broken home and she's used to people leaving her and I won't if it comes down to it I won't be that guy. Right. You could never do that to her.

I will put up on the shelf, whatever I need to put up on the shelf, even if it hurts me to do it, even if it tears my heart out. Have you told me even that? Yeah, I've had that conversation. Okay. I actually just had it with her on the phone here before I talk. to you. And I don't know if we're going to see each other again, Kathy.

This may all just, I don't want to hurt. After you had that conversation with her, did things, did she get weirded out by that conversation? Oh, she's, I've told her that before. It's not weird, but I just don't want to hurt anybody, you know. There's, I love her. I do. And I don't want to see her hurt.

I don't want to, like, lead her on if, if that's, But you really have no intention of leaving your wife. I do not. Right. Mm-hmm. Interesting. But you're going to be honest with your wife? That's interesting.

So if I don't, I mean, would I bring up something if it ends and if it's only going to provide hurt? I don't know. Right. Will, you'll eat me alive. If I don't, I don't know. But if I wait too long, then it'll, if I do bring it up, then it'll do. the exact opposite of coming clean. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of

like, listen, if you really feel that way that you just explained, which is I don't ever want to do this to my wife because this is her worst fear. You know, she grew up with abandonment issue. She has them. I don't want to do

that to her. I mean, her finding out that you're lying and all this stuff like, I mean, that is the trigger for her. What would be the best thing for somebody like her is just for you to be completely honest with whatever that is. She needs to be there right. Knowing, because, I mean, to me, the person that has the ban,

I have abandonment issues. I understand that. So it's the not knowing is the bad part. You know, if you start to keep this affair going, and it is like an affair with all these feelings and everything over there, and you're just going to play them out and never keep your white. in the know. Right.

If she finds out, that's exactly what you're trying to avoid happening. And that's a slippery slope because you're just getting, you're very deep in this other thing. Right. So it's, I don't know what the future holds right now. I mean, I. Oh my God. It's fucking fascinating. You know, what does happen?

I will never, ever find a connection like I've found. with Raven though I can say that with 100% like honesty I believe that I believe that but do you have that same connection with your wife they're different and so my wife is like I see me growing old with her very very what's the word you know the old cliche right but she's been a pillar of support and I see her being there with me. Right. And that is what I want. So in no future do you see, or like in no scenario, do you see yourself leaving your wife for Raven?

No, that wasn't part of the future I was looking to cultivate. And so if we were able to find a scenario where, you know, Raven's husband was satisfied and my wife was satisfied and we were getting satisfied and it's a win, win, win, and there's four people and there's open, transparent communication. That's the goal. That was the goal. Right. And your wife is putting the thruple on there. Listen, what could wind up happening? There's a lot of different things that could wind up happening because you're getting into dangerous territory. You could all be open and say, let's all do this and thruple and use all these labels and everything. But, you know, if you allow for that time and space to happen and that relationship to grow, you know, maybe you will feel differently a year from now. And maybe you do wind up leaving your wife because things become too strong over there or vice versa. Who knows, you know.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. But the thruple is, you know, and her husband brought up a great point with the throuple. he mentioned that he doesn't want to be excluded so thruple's not going to work it'd have to be some type of like poly scenario whatever that is because and he's right you know we would want to include him too that's right yeah so but my wife bringing that up that brought up a lot of good conversations between us yeah and i was green shot and stuff and sending it to raven and then it would introduce conversations that we would have together to compliment those that I was having with my wife. Okay, so last question. Your meeting on the 29th, they're going to have this other, you know, explosive meeting and all the stuff.

Do you plan on going and talking to your wife about it then? Or, I mean, do you plan on keeping it the way that it is now where you're keeping certain information away from your wife? I plan on keeping information away from her until the 29th. And after that is where I would introduce the conversation. Okay. Yeah, I kind of want to affect the opportunity. I just feel like my, like this is going to be something very, very special and spiritual.

And I want, this is something I want to experience. Right. So you don't want, like you said, you don't want your right to say no or husband and you guys want to just fucking do it and then you're going to figure it out after. Well, you need to keep me posted and let me know. What you figure out after, I feel like this is a situation that's not going away anytime soon, but it's also not getting any kind of clarity anytime soon either. I don't think.

I don't think anybody is firm in their decision either way yet, which means there's all kinds of different things that could happen. You know, there's time and space. And God knows where you guys were going to wind up, but I can't fucking wait to find out. So make sure, I mean, you kept me in the know with this. I remember when you reached out to me. I think it was early in this year like, oh, I remember me?

Like we had this conversation, this dominatrix. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like very happy that you called in with this story. I think it's super interesting. We do need an ending, though. I need to know. Does Aries wind up with Raven? Okay, people are going to be chiming the fuck in, probably like they do on your Reddit page.

Okay, people are going to be talking a lot about this one and about hers and about the situation. And everyone's going to be placing bets. But I can't wait for your guys part three where, you know, we're going to find out what eventually does wind up with you guys. You know, so keep me posted. Raven already sent me picks. She really wants to show you the fuck off. I don't know what you guys are going to do about picks for about you. I have a Discord channel now where people do X.

rated stuff. Like, I don't take part in that, but people are allowed, my listeners or my callers, whoever calls in is allowed to go on there for free and do whatever they want over there. It's fun. It's like a community. My Patreon members get the R-rated picks. I already have those of Raven, but she knows she could go in there and show you off, which I think she really wants to do.

On my Discord channel, that's free for you guys to go on and do whatever the fuck you want. I will send you both the link for that once your episodes are up. you could go do that and take part in there and you know i have a my pachm members are on there so that'll be fun and just please make sure to keep me posted because i'm uh curious where this all goes and i can't really give any predictions because obviously i don't know anything yeah i could uh you know i know there's only so much you can do with editing but just make sure you protect raven um if i want to protect her feelings too there no you you were honest with her about like anything you said on here you told her that's why I asked you I was wondering is she

going to hear something for the first time that isn't listen I don't think you you said anything that she doesn't know like if I was a girl that was in love with the guy and I was listening to what you said and I wanted to know if I still had a chance I felt like you said certain things in this episode that leaves room for like a chance of you guys winding up together you weren't so even though you were absolute in your phrases of saying that you would stay there and do that. I can't explain it. You did leave room for something to happen with her still,

and I think that she'll be fine with that. Yeah. And I think so too. I just want to make sure that her heart isn't broken either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got it. Well, she's going to listen to the episodes, let me know, but I don't think I have to edit anything out.

I think you've been more straight up with her than your wife. Yeah, I'm excited. We really want to listen to these if the 29th happens. Like, listen to them in the bedroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my goodness. And then you'll have to come back and give me like the intel with that one. Somehow we'll work it back into my show.

I always need content. So anyway, thank you, Aries for calling in. Stay tuned, everyone, for part three. Good luck. Thanks, good. Thank you. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you,

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