Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 626 - Bill and hs Wife were Swingers Into Stranger Sex and More
Episode Date: April 26, 2023Bill and his wife were swingers into stranger sex and more and he called in to talk all about it. When did they decide to start swinging? Where did they meet the random strangers they hooked up with? ...And, how were they so successful at having an open marriage? Tune in for all the details including how he got his wife to agree to go to a swingers club, what exactly went down during their first experience including the full swap foursome they had and his wife’s frst experience with a woman, how they both felt afterwards, the rules they made after the fact, the ad he found online looking for stranger sex in the park, how and why he decided to participate and exactly how it all went down, how his wife wanted to do same thing and exactly what went down when she participated, how and when he realized he was bisexual, the random black guy they picked up in a hotel and exactly what went down with him, how he became the clean up guy and how that experience made him realize he was bisexual, how wife felt watching him with other guys, the couples they hooked up with that they met at the swingers club they attended, the nudist clubs and nudist beaches they went to and what went down there, how and why they were they able to be so successful at swinging and opening up their marriage plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Totally cool with me. So anyway, let's talk about who I have on today. The guy's name is Bill.
The phony name that we gave him is Bill. Now Bill has a hot story and he is reminiscing. Bill's
an older guy. He was married. His wife has since passed. This is like his little love note to his
wife reminiscing about all the hot times they used to have. And let me tell you, what they were doing
back in the day was super fucking naughty and you're going to be a little jealous of Bill. Because besides
like swinging and going in nudie beaches and nudie clubs and shit like that and having like
threesomes and stuff. They wound up doing this thing in the park with this couple. They did it two
times and he goes into explicit details on what went down each time. And it is like crazy. Like you can't
make this shit up. That's what I always say. He wound up finding it out in a paper of a couple who
wanted like another guy to just come in the park and like fuck his wife while he was hiding in the bushes.
They answered it, and he went and did it, and then his wife was like, I want to do that too.
And then they wound up doing the same thing in reverse in the park.
And I mean, you're just not going to believe his stories.
And then they get into this whole thing because, you know, they wound up opening up their marriage, right?
At some point, he does talk about that.
They started at Swingers Clubs, and they had this experience in the park.
And then they did the experience the opposite way in the park.
And then they had an experience with a black guy in a hotel that was like his wife's ultimate fantasy.
He goes into explicit detail about what happened then.
And that's when he realized he was by.
I mean, that guy made him the clean of guy.
And he thoroughly enjoyed it.
He talks about that random hookup with that guy in the hotel that they had,
as well as explicit details of the park,
as well as their first time going to Swingers Club.
Like I said, she has since passed.
He's really just reminiscing on this call
about all the things that they did. His wife really loved women. He loved, top of the mountain for him,
was seeing his girl, his wife with other women. He saw that plenty of times. He talks all about it,
as well as the nudest places they went, right? I think we talk about nude beaches and nude clubs at the
end, as well as like how he was successful. Why were they able to do it for so long and remain
successful and in love and have it never be a problem with them? He talks about that towards the end.
So anyway, it's a super interesting episode.
His stories are hot.
You're going to be a little jealous of Bill.
But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Bill.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
Hey, I'm good.
Thank you.
So listen, Bill, you and your wife had some swinging, swinger experiences in your lifetime.
Is that correct?
Yeah, we did.
Quite some time ago.
She's now deceased.
I lost her.
But, you know, I have a lot of really fond memories, I guess,
of some of the great times we had swinging.
Oh, so, like, this is honoring her.
In her memory, you're going to reminisce today.
Yeah.
It still excites me when I think about some of the things we did.
Yeah, wow.
So how many years were you guys married?
Oh, my.
Probably 30, well, 32.
32 years?
And were you guys your first married?
marriage or second marriage? First. Okay. So how did you go, like how did you guys start
swinging? Like how did that come about? Like, and how long into the marriage did it start? Like,
tell me that story. Well, we had two kids by the time we started swinging. You know, they were
quite young. But back in the day, I was reading through a magazine or a newspaper. I can't remember
exactly and there was an ad in there that triggered my interest. It basically, you know, said that there
was a private club outside of the city and, you know, call for more information type thing. And when I
did, I, you know, quickly found out that it was a swing club, which we had never been to.
How old were you guys at the time? I would say 30. 32 right in that area. And so I mentioned it to my
wife and you know I said look you know maybe we should give this thing a try at least just go and check it out
I mean we had a pretty great sex life but the two of us were really hot into sex and I thought it
might excite her so you both had high sex drives is what you're saying oh yeah very much so so how did you
bring it up to her because I mean listen you sound older to me now I'm assuming this was a long time ago
And back then, this was not as, listen, it's still not mainstream swinging or anything,
but it's much more in the forefront than it was back then.
So that's pretty like, you know, kind of like a hardcore thing to bring up to your wife in those days.
Like, what did you say to her about that ad that you found and how did you bring it up to her?
Well, I showed her the ad and I just said, you know, like take a look at this.
What do you think sort of thing?
And, you know, she didn't say yes.
She didn't say no, but I could tell she, you know, she had a little twinkle in her eye.
And I just said, why don't we, you know, why don't we check it out?
We don't have to do anything, but at least we, you know, can find out what it's all about and gain some experience.
Okay.
And what did she say?
Yeah, I was nervous.
Yeah, yeah.
I could imagine.
But, I mean, obviously you guys were like a very open with each other for you to just come right out.
you know, ask her about it. A lot of guys maybe would never. So, you know, you did. Right? You were open.
Oh, we were. No question about it. You know, I mean, we used to kid each other from time to time when we were out and we'd see other people. You know, I'd make a joke about how hot this guy's wife was. And she would do the same thing about some guy that she saw. And we'd both, you know, have a laugh about it. But we were always finding ways to get each other hot. And that was probably where it all started.
right so you knew you weren't dealing with a very vanilla closed-off uptight partner so on some level you knew that if you put that out there to her she wasn't gonna like freak out because i think a lot of times a guy knows his wife right i mean i just spoke with a guy who had a wife who yeah he fucks once a year and he's just like i just know that she's not into sex you know because he's been there for long you knew your girl was very down for it and pretty open-minded considering she wouldn't get jealous if you talked about other woman
and stuff. So that's cool.
No, she was very open-minded.
I mean, we got along in so many ways.
We were made for each other.
Right, and that's why I love to have, listen, I have a plenty of Swingers gone wrong stories,
but I love to have the episodes on where, you know, people who are very in love and have a
great relationship decide to open it up and are completely successful at it.
Because I think people don't believe that can be true.
And listen, as much as it could destroy a relationship.
It could also be like your story where it's just something that adds to it.
So when you brought it up to her and she had that little twinkle in her eye, like, what was the next step?
Did you guys decide to go to the club?
Well, you know, I said to her, why don't I call and like book an appointment to go to this club?
And it was out of town.
So it, you know, it meant staying over.
They had some accommodations right off the premises.
And I just said, well, look, we'll go.
We'll stay overnight and we don't have to do anything.
But at least, you know, we can find out what it's all about and go from there if you want.
So she agreed to it.
And that's what we did.
I booked an appointment for a week later, I think it was.
And we had to sit down with the owner and his wife and go through a little interview process
because they wanted to make sure that we were the kind of people they wanted to.
to have in there.
Oh, interesting.
You know, and then we didn't have a problem with each other.
That was most important.
They said they didn't want any jealousies and couples in there fighting and causing trouble,
that sort of thing.
So we, I guess, must have assured them that it wasn't an issue.
And he invited us to come to the club that night and just check it out, you know.
And what went down that night?
Because I know, listen, I know eventually that there's part.
parks and areas where you're banging other guys' wives and all this kind of crazy stuff.
Like what happened though that first night that you went? Did you guys play with others or did you
just watch? Do you remember? We went with the full intention. Well, to be honest, just before we went,
my wife was starting to back out. Yeah, of course. You know, she was getting nervous about it
because now we were talking about actually going into the club. And I said to her, look, if you want
to call a whole thing off, let's call it off. I'm not going to force you.
to do something that you don't want to do.
And her attitude was, well, I guess if we don't do it, we'll never know, will we?
And, you know, I know you're going to be disappointed, meaning me, and I don't want you to be.
I want, you know, I want to take a look at this with you.
So it was on that basis that she agreed to go in and basically look around, you know,
maybe meet some people, talk to some people.
But that was the commitment.
And, of course.
But did you go do stuff when you actually went in?
Well, we sat at a bar, basically, and we were having a drink, and people started wandering in and out, sitting at the bar, mostly naked.
And, you know, that got my wife and me.
Wound up, of course, because we weren't actually expecting to see people mostly naked at the bar.
We thought that would all be in rooms hidden somewhere.
Well, it turned out to be both.
Right.
And there was even a dance area where people were dancing naked.
And, you know, everything from very ordinary to some pretty great bodies.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So we ended up.
Oh, God, yeah.
Did we ever?
So we ended up stripping down and we each had a towel and we started walking around and exploring the place because it was fairly large.
And we saw a dance floor where people were dancing naked and, you know, the guys invariably would be slow dancing with a heart.
on and they were it was like vertical fucking I mean intercourse you know it was pretty close dancing
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But what did you guys do?
That's what I want to fucking know.
You're not getting to the point.
I'm like,
because I know that you have plenty of experiences.
This is just your first time.
What did you guys get down?
We had a couple of dances and, you know, he could tell I was ready.
I was hard as a rock.
So we wandered into a swing room where they had all these mattresses laid out all over the place
and boxes and boxes of Kleenex and condoms and, you know, everything ready.
basically for a bunch of people to fuck.
And when we got in there, we saw, you know, threesomes and foursums and girl on girl and two
girls on a guy, every combination imaginable.
Lots of fucking, lots of sucking, lots of sucking, lots of guys going down on women.
We ended up with another couple that we were both attracted to and they were just with each other.
And we got it into a foursome.
And I could tell she was really into it, which excited me all the hell.
you liked watching her and did she enjoy watching you i mean it was full swap i'm assuming i was totally
watching her and i mean to see her sucking another guy was just a major turn on and i i just loved it
and she happened to be very good at it so in no time you know they were fucking and i was doing
pretty much the same thing with this guy's wife and no jealousy on her part either right i mean
because you eventually do both wind up discovering that you're both bisexual did she have like that
first time did you guys also hook up with the same sex partners or at that time did you strictly
keep it to the opposite sex? To my amazement, you know, before that night was over, she was going down
on women. And I was shocked. I mean, I was delightfully shocked. I mean, that's even harder than
watching her suck another guy. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why, but she had never done it before.
She told me, you know, we talked about it later that night when we were in bed fucking our brains out from what we had done that earlier.
And she said, yeah, I didn't really know I was by until I saw a couple of women going at each other.
And she said, it turned me on so much. I knew I had to try it. I just thought, oh, my God, this is great.
I can watch her both ways.
It sounds like you guys probably, because you didn't really expect to go and do anything.
But it sounds like you didn't have.
have probably any like intense discussions about, oh, what you can do or can't do.
It was just kind of like a free-for-all and it just worked.
Yeah, I mean, that night, it was all same room stuff.
So, you know, I didn't wander off into another room and start banging somebody else and
her doing the same.
At that point, you know, we were probably not even comfortable thinking about that.
We were, you know, just getting into it, really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there was no like, oh, you can't kiss or anything like that.
I mean, you guys kind of went hardcore the first time, I would say.
Yeah, it really wasn't, as I recall, any kissing.
I mean, we did talk about all these things afterwards.
And we did, you know, establish, I guess, some boundaries.
And the kissing thing was one of them, you know.
I think we both agreed that was crazy as sounds.
We thought that's too intimate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of people have that.
But it's, you know, it's crazy.
watching, you know, you're letting a guy fuck your wife and she's sucking them off and yet you can't handle a kiss.
Yeah, right. Like his dick in her mouth totally cool, but his tongue, uh, no fucking way.
Yeah, it is. It doesn't make sense, but a lot of people think like you guys, you know what I mean, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, they do. And the other thing was we, we agreed we do would be same room stuff.
But, you know, if she was hot for some guy or woman, you know, like go for it, more power to you, but I'm going to be there.
and vice versa.
So it was always a same room thing.
Right, right, right.
And that's how,
and that stayed the same way
throughout all your experiences, correct?
Yeah, yeah.
We never wandered off.
And, you know, I mean,
the other part of it was we both kind of agreed,
like, it's only cheating if you're hiding it.
And if we're open about what we want to do
and the other person is at least there,
there's no cheating going on, you know?
Of course not.
It's like consensual.
Now, I know that.
eventually you do find a couple that you have some sort of like crazy a hook up in a park with.
Was your wife there for that experience or was that a solo experience?
Because you did say you don't play, do solo stuff, but that sounded solo to me.
Well, okay.
What happened was, I was at, by this time, online, you know, people were into computers.
And I came across a page, a local page in the city that we lived in, which was smaller than
when we started out. And there was a fantasy section where people were describing their fantasies. And,
you know, they were wild. I mean, absolutely wild. When you read all these things, you'd take,
oh, my God, there's no limit to what people come up with. I know. Yeah. The imagination's a wonderful thing.
Yeah, totally. So I saw this one that really intrigued me because it was so far out there in left field.
This couple in the same town we were in, their ultimate fantasy was for the lady to be lying on her stomach, sunning herself, topless, and reading a novel in a very specific part of this huge park that they always went to.
And it was very unlikely anyone else would go into that specific area.
And daytime.
This is daytime.
In the daytime.
It was in the middle of July, very hot, beautiful summer day.
And I told my wife about it, and I said, I'm just going to contact them.
I held it and see what happens here.
She had no problem.
So we agreed we were going to fulfill their fantasy.
The fantasy was for a guy only to show up in this exact part of the park.
And when he spotted his wife, who'd be in this red bikini, topless, reading a book on her stomach.
The guy was to circle around, come up behind her, take off her bottom, without saying one word,
not even hello, lift her up and take her from behind.
Well, a husband watch hidden in the bushes.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know.
I bet you a lot of guys are like, that's a fucking hot fantasy.
Oh, my God, I couldn't believe it.
I kept thinking, well, hell, didn't I think of this?
Damn, that's a nice fantasy.
Okay.
But this is a reality.
You go to the park, right?
And this is happening.
I go to the park.
I come up the hill.
I go around this bend.
I look out.
And sure enough, there's this pretty good-looking woman, well-built.
She had a nice set of tits, and that turned me on immediately.
Your wife's not there, though, right?
I just want to paint the way.
Is your wife with you for 30 days of hours?
She knows you're doing for free.
Okay, cool.
All right, so you see this hawk girl?
She's got a big pair of tits.
You like that.
Okay.
Yeah, they're just hanging down because she's on her stomach.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm hard as a rock before I even get to her.
My biggest worry at this point is I come before I get to her.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So, I did.
I circled around her and I, without even saying a word, I just lifted her up by her hips.
And, you know, she was, her ass was pointing towards me.
And I just started thrusting into her trying not to come too fast.
And I wanted this to last, you know, for me and for her husband and for her.
I mean, this was their fantasy.
and I was certainly down for the whole thing.
Did you see the husband in the bushes?
Do you know where he was?
I just heard him making some noises in the bushes
and I actually did hear him come.
He was actually jerking off in the bushes.
He was so excited watching his wife getting fucked, you know.
So, yeah, so I basically reversed out of there.
I didn't even say thank you.
I mean, I had a great fuck.
And the deal was no talking, no looking, no seeing each other.
It was to be totally anonymous.
And, you know, that would be it.
We'd never meet again.
But you did meet again.
Well, I was very interesting where this story goes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I thought that was the end of it for sure because that was the deal.
I mean, that is what they wanted.
You played the role perfectly.
You did exactly as told.
I gave them exactly what they wanted, you know.
I mean, I thought, hey, if I can come up with a great fantasy one day, maybe somebody you'll do that for me.
You know, return the favor.
I just wasn't sure how I could outdo theirs.
So sure enough, I went home, and my wife was on me immediately.
She wanted every detail.
And I told her exactly what happened, how it went down, what I did, what her husband did, what she did.
And she said, and you never even said, hello?
I said, no.
I never even saw her face, only from a real long distance.
And I have, you know, an eyesight problem, so I couldn't really.
I couldn't really make her face out, even though I remember the great set of tits hanging down.
No problem there.
So my wife, I could tell, was just, you know, excited as hell.
And we left it at that, had great sucks that night, mind you?
Even better than normal.
And obviously, this thing had worked both of us up.
But she brought it up again a day or two later.
And she said, you know, I want to do that in reverse.
And I said, really?
I don't even know if they'll go for that.
Because, you know, the deal was one time we never meet again.
She said, well, contact them and ask.
All they can do is say no.
On the other hand, they might be thrilled about the idea.
Your wife's a lot of fucking fun.
Oh, my God.
She had me excited this shit all over again.
Yeah.
A constant hard on with that woman.
She was always driving me crazy in the best possible way.
Yeah.
So she tells you to email them and you do?
I went online. I went back to them and I said, hey, you're not going to believe this and I know what we agreed upon. And I'm not going to break it unless you allow me to. But my wife's fantasy now is to do exactly what we did, except she is going to be lying in that spot, not your wife. And I'm going to be in the bush, not you.
And you're going to fuck her, not me.
Oh, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
You just can't make this shit up.
I know.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
So he said, I'll get back to you.
Obviously, he talked to his wife, and she obviously, you know, was down for it.
So, oh, Christ, about a week later, I dropped my wife off at the park.
And, you know, I agreed to stay in the car and let her take off up over this hill and around a corner
and into the exact same spot in the park, which she did.
And afterwards, when she got into the car,
She just, you know, I could see that she was just thrilled.
And, I mean, it was super exciting.
I have to admit, I was hard as hell in the bushes,
watching her as guy fucker.
And, you know, it turned out he was pretty well hung,
which I think made it even more exciting.
So I was, I call it a stranger in the park.
Yeah, I mean, crazy.
And that was just a one-off thing, like you and then never talk to them again?
Never happened again, never.
I don't even think we knew their real name.
And certainly...
Never saw their faces, never heard their, you know, their voice because all the...
There was no talking.
No, that was part of the deal.
This thing had to be totally anonymous.
And I don't know if they were maybe really well-known or something in the city and they were afraid of being found out.
I have no idea, but I didn't care.
I was too into that fantasy.
Yeah.
So now let's get back to the swinging and stuff because you guys, you know, you had that great first experience.
She realizes she's by, I know at a certain point you realize that.
that you are too. So what happens after that first time? Do you just continue to go back and
become like full blown swingers? Well, we certainly went back to the swing club, yeah, several
times. And where I found out I was by, it was a totally different situation. We had gone
downtown to stay overnight in a very upscale hotel just to get a night away from the kids,
you know, at this point we had, we had three of them. And they were all fairly small. So we were booked
into a really nice suite in this upscale hotel up about 20 floors.
And at one point, we decided after dinner we'd go to the main lounge bar and have a drink
because we really had nothing planned.
So we took a booth, one of these large booths that would hold probably six or eight people,
but there were only the two of us.
And we're sitting there having a drink.
And I noticed this black guy walked in and had a seat at the bar.
And he was facing us not that far away really.
And she had told me a couple of times that, you know, one of her fantasies was to do it with a black guy.
And I had never forgotten that, of course.
So, you know, she's wearing a low-cut, very nice gown that night.
And my wife's really well-built.
Yeah, I should have painted the picture before because you talked about that one woman that was laying down.
I mean, how hot was your wife?
I'd say she was a solid eight.
That's good.
Yeah, yeah, certainly well about.
average yeah okay yeah and not just in figure but you know her face she was quite good looking
okay so i noticed that this black guy who kept looking at her and i know he was looking at her tips i mean
it's pretty hard not to when a woman's wearing a low-cut gown and and she's got you know she's stacked
like my wife so i said to her you know there's a black guy who's been looking at you on and off
for the last 10 minutes i think he'd probably like to do more than that
So she said, are you serious?
You know, are you sure?
I said, yeah, I noticed he's been looking at you.
Why don't I go have a chat with him?
Well, I could tell she was all excited right away
because she looked over at the guy, and he's a fairly good-looking guy.
And she said, well, okay, I walked over.
I just sidled up beside the guy.
And I said, look, I think the easiest way to go here,
it just comes straight out.
I said, my wife has always had a fantasy about being with a black guy.
And I've noticed you've been looking at her,
and I think you like what you see.
So if you'd like to come up to our room
and join us.
She'd like to get together with you.
And he said, you know, man, are you serious?
Like, are you for real?
And I'm saying, yeah, it's for real.
It's not a game.
I'm not setting you up.
It's just, you know, she's always had a thing for black guys.
He said, okay.
He was thrilled.
Uh-huh.
So he said, I'll see you up in the room in about 10 minutes.
We gave him the room number.
So we're going up the elevator.
I'm already hard just thinking about what's going to happen.
And I can tell she's excited too.
So we go in the room and I said, hey,
Why don't you put on, you know, your see-through?
She had this, like, slip, half-slip.
I forget what women call those things.
Like a little nighty or something like that.
I get it.
Yeah.
Like lingerie?
Right.
Yeah.
It just barely covered her crotch.
And I said, you know, we put that on and I'll just get down to my underwear.
And when he comes, he'll see that, you know, we're for real, we're ready.
So it took longer than I expected.
And I never did find out why.
I often wondered if he, you know, went and hid his money.
in wallet and whatever else because we might be trying to rob them or something. I had no idea.
Anyway, I opened the door. He comes in. He sees my wife lay on a bed. She's got a glass of wine and
this gorgeous little nighty. And now he can see even more of her tits, which I know he really likes.
And I said, look, I got to go to the bathroom. Why don't you make yourself comfortable there?
Take some stuff off and I'll be out shortly. So I did. And I had all I could do not to start masturbating
in the bathroom, just imagining what was going on out there. And sure enough, when I come out of the
bathroom, she was on the bed, sucking them off. And, you know, I was just thrilled, absolutely
thrilled. So eventually, he wanted to fuck her. So he put her on her back, spread her legs, and he
took this huge cock out, I don't think the biggest, but certainly weight above average. And he
started to pound her pretty hard. And I'm watching this, of course, and I'm just getting honier and
hornier all the time and trying to keep myself from coming and try to keep myself from playing with
myself because I don't want to end up, you know, just coming like that. Anyway, he, I heard him
grown and he came in her huge load. I could see it coming out of her and I mean, he really let go.
I think it must have been a while since this guy had been fucked. And I saw,
I saw that coming out of her and it just made me, oh my God, incredibly hot.
My wife, to my shock, said, oh, my God, can you clean that up?
I said, what?
She said, couldn't you clean that up?
I said, do you want me go down there and clean that up?
She said, yeah, I think it would be really hot.
So I did.
First time in my life, I'd never tasted it come.
Anyway, I'll be damned if I didn't like it.
Right, and that's how you found out.
Like, it was that.
And that was the start of it, you know, because, oh, I'll end that story just by
telling you, after I did that, I had to fuck her. I couldn't. I just couldn't wait any longer.
So I came in her again and I cleaned it up again. So that was a first for me. The next time we went
swinging at a club, and that was a few weeks later, it was the first time I ended up going,
going down on a guy and sucking a cock and swallowing. And I continued, you know, for forever,
really, being by, but just orally. I never, you know. Topped her bottom.
let a guy, I never let a guy fuck me.
Right. And I've never fucked a guy.
But I still got to say I'm bye because if you like sucking guys off, you're definitely by.
So you, and would you let them suck you off as well?
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh.
So, absolutely.
I mean, I like getting as much as, well, I think I like, I think I always like giving more than getting.
Uh-huh.
Oh, God, I like them both.
And now, did your wife enjoy watching you with other men?
She loved it.
Yeah.
She absolutely loved it.
And so did you have a lot of?
a threesome's with men and with women, considering that you were both by? More with women.
More with women. Probably for every time it would be me and a guy and my wife, there'd probably be two or three times where it would be the other way around.
Right. I mean, I totally enjoyed both. But if I could only have one, it definitely would be a woman.
Oh, really? Because you loved watching your wife. Yeah. And I mean, if I could only have one, I like eating pussy more than sex.
fucking cock.
Right, right.
Not by a lot.
Kind of even.
Right.
So maybe your percentage would be like 60, 40 or something like that.
You know, into women.
40 into men.
Yeah, that's probably about right.
And so you had, like, so where would you have these threesomes?
Like, would they typically be at the swingers club or did you eventually, because you
were online, find couples and stuff like through websites and stuff like that?
Mostly at the swing club, but occasionally we would.
get into going online and agreeing to meet new couples at their place, usually, or a motel
because we had little kids. Although one time we did actually bring a couple home downstairs
and in a rec room area that we had locked up pretty good, so there was no chance of the kids
walking in on us. And we had a, well, we had a foursome, and then we had a two-sum, I guess,
where she went down on the guy's wife
and he and I went down on each other.
So, yeah, that was a one-time thing at our house.
Oh, at your house, and you would find these couples
because you guys were pretty open.
I think sometimes in the Swinger community,
what I've heard a lot is that, you know,
guy-on-guy action isn't as accepted
and out in the open as much as the women-with-women thing is.
I agree.
Did you find that at the Swingers Club that you were in?
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I mean, the thing that I came to learn or at least believe,
I had no idea how many women were bisexual.
And I have a feeling a lot of women don't even know they're bisexual
until they're put in a right situation where they can actually discover it.
But, you know, after all those years of swinging,
there's no doubt in my mind.
I would say at least 30% of women are bisexual.
And I think in part that's because women have a natural, they don't have but barriers around them that men have.
They're more loving and naturally so and giving.
And I think it's way easier for them to naturally love, whether it's a man or a woman.
You know, I think that they're nurturing people to begin with.
And they're not takers.
A lot of men are takers and they don't like to give.
But having said that, I would say at least,
least 15% more of the men are bisexual, too.
I don't even think it's different.
Like, I have heard other guy friends of mine say kind of similar things to you.
Like, I think men tend to believe that it's more, quote, unquote, normal or you use the word
natural for a woman on woman action than man on man.
And the reasoning for that being the difference has always been so stupid, if you ask me.
You know, and I think it's a same amount.
of guys. I just think that
guys haven't been able to
cop to it. Like look at you found
out you were bisexual, just like your wife
found out she was bisexual. You know,
but here you were two people who always thought you were
a heterosexual. You did. I have
so many guys on my show that
admit to
doing things with guys on the
DL a lot. So I just
think that it's just not as accepted
for men to be
into men, but it's not like
it's not out there as much it is for
women. I think it just seems like more women are into women because it's okay. It's more accepted.
Everyone thinks it's hot. It's like popular. It's in style. It's the thing to fucking do. I mean,
in my day and age, going down on girls became like a thing to do. And then every girl was like,
oh, I got a girl crush. But at some point in my life, it wasn't that way. It was just as
stigmatized as guy on guy action. And so before the time that it became popular, it was the same thing for
women. Like you can never admit that you were into the women and women didn't. But it changed. And I think
that when it changes for guys and it is especially with the younger generation, I mean, I'm sorry,
but I have a son and we watch all kinds of shows, little kid shows. And there is just guys dating
guys all over the fucking place. Okay. As well as girls dating girls. I mean, I just think it's equal.
I think a lot of people are a little bit in the middle of the spectrum. You're going to have some
homosexual. You're going to have some straight heterosexual. And then,
a lot of other people are in, you know,
at different varying degrees of like that spectrum
as far as what they're into sexually.
So just like you say,
I think a lot of women might be more bisexual
if they just tried it.
Same shit for guys.
And a lot of times they know they're just not copping to it.
I don't know.
I mean, because you and your wife both found out you were by.
Yeah, we did.
You know?
No question.
So did you guys swing through the rest of your,
marriage up until when she passed or did, you know, you get older and it just like kind of weaned off?
Like, what happened?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there did come a point where we kind of weaned ourselves off it, I guess, through, you know, the kids getting older.
And we had to do more travel and vacation type things and, you know, the Disneyland and for trips to, you know, to nature parks and things like that.
Not nudist clubs.
I get it, but just stuff that you're more involved with your children.
Yeah.
Yeah, we did do that, though.
We tried out a couple of nudist clubs and loved it.
How was that? How was that?
Just absolutely great.
We loved it.
You know, the whole sense of freedom and the equality that happens immediately when you're stripped of clothes.
Yeah, it's a great equalizer, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you don't know that maybe that guy has an Armani suit and drives a roll and whatever.
everybody is at the same level.
Yeah, I went to
a nudist beach a bunch of times
with a really jealous boyfriend of mine.
It was really weird
that the most jealous boyfriend I had
was the one boyfriend
that wanted to take me to a nudist beach
and he would fight with me
every time we went there
he'd be like,
oh, are you looking at that guy
over there with a heart out?
I'd be like, no, I'm looking at that woman
over there with the weirdest nipples
I've ever seen.
Like, I mean, to me it was like,
I was like so curious
because here you are at a nude beach
and you wind up seeing
that so many people like just look so different
and there's so many different shapes and sizes.
But when you do take off everybody's clothes,
and like you said, there is some sort of thing that goes down,
especially what you said is very true, right?
You don't see certain things because the clothes are taken off.
So certain things aren't represented.
But what I also notice is that when you see everybody naked,
you kind of notice their bodies and their flaws like less.
You know, everyone just looks like natural.
And I feel like actually putting clothes on a body actually makes things more pronounced and makes you notice things more.
Whereas when you take it all off, the opposite happens that you think.
I saw bodies and shapes and I judged less when everyone was just fucking naked.
It's just like a bunch of little kids walking around.
I don't know.
It was interesting for sure.
Hot in a way, for sure, because the little exhibitionist comes out and you write and you're like they're naked.
but very freeing too.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There is for sure.
The biggest fear I had about going to a new displace was I, you know, I was sure right
away I'd have a heart on and I'd embarrass the hell out of my wife.
And she even warned me about it.
You know, she said, don't you dare get a heart on when we walk in there.
Maybe that's what did it because I absolutely did not.
and I knew I wasn't about to.
No, there was one guy walking around with a hard on,
and that's my boyfriend guy.
I remember specifically I'm getting really mad at me.
Are you looking at the guy?
I'm like, no, that actually looks so stupid.
Like, there was nothing hot about this guy walking across the beach
with a full-on hard-on.
Like, it just kind of looked kind of dumb, you know?
I'm like, not hot.
And it wasn't common, though.
It's not like everyone's walking around with hard-ons.
Never saw it.
Yeah.
I mean, there was like that one guy.
that's it and it actually looked dumb but that's not to say that being at the nudist beach is not hot it is
for a lot of reasons yeah but it is an interesting experience for sure to go you know i found that
it was like i mean i don't like groups and i don't really like to get involved in any kind of communities
i quit brownies when i was younger i'm just not into it and so i felt like being at the new beach like
everyone would invite us you want to come to this nudie party and this nudie booze crews and you know
they were really fully involved in the news
world and I was like no fucking thank you
you know I don't ever like to
really become a part of anything
you know
that's funny
but it was a world it's a whole world
right I mean did you get into that world when you
guys went
yeah I mean we weren't real joiners
either right right
so you just went for the tan
I guess the swing club
as close as we can to joining anything
you know so yeah
Great memories of that.
I mean, the best thing we ever did.
I got to admit, I probably masturbated a thousand times over the years,
just thinking about the various things we did.
How long has it been since she passed?
It's about a dozen years.
So did you ever remarry or anything?
No, no.
I've gone out, you know, with the odd girl here and there,
but nothing serious.
Right.
Well, you'll get to remember this when you hear this back, you know?
this was a nice sort of, like I said,
this was you're reminiscing about all your good times, right?
Yeah, we both had so much fun,
and it was never an issue,
and it just added to our enjoyment of each other,
and our sex life was good, but, I mean, it went to another level.
It was incredible, so, yeah, I mean, it's not going to work for everybody.
I know that, and I'm sure for some couples
that will even drive them to split up.
I do know a few people that happen to,
but I think if you go into it,
open and honest and you communicate, you've got it made.
Yeah, and I think, Pete, the couple has to be really on the same page.
It just sounds like you said, you know, from the beginning and from the get-go that your
wife had a very strong sex drive to, and she was as into it as you were.
I think if one partner is doing it for the other, you know, it's hard to find somebody that's
totally aligned into the same exact thing.
Even happy couples that are totally compatible, they might just not be.
into the same thing or have the same sex drive.
So I think that's when sometimes you could get into some trouble,
but it sounds like your wife really was as horny as you were.
And that's probably a big reason why it worked,
and you guys were very open and honest about it.
And like I said, I like to have all kinds of stories on
because I think that's reality.
I don't think you could say that every couple will last doing something like this,
but you can also not say that every couple will fucking,
break up for it. And a lot of people think that, including fucking Dr. Drew, who I used to love
until those words came out of his mouth. Like he thinks anyone that does that is like doomed for
failure. No, not fucking true. Listen to my podcast. I have many couples that did it, been there,
done that, had the best time still doing it or maybe not doing it anymore, but we're completely
in love and it just added and things were okay. It's not the majority of people, okay, but
there are people that it works for. And I do like to have those stories on.
So I love your story.
This is a swinging story gone right, you know.
And you're going to love hearing your story back.
Bill, is that what we called you, Bill?
Bill, Bob, what do we fucking call you?
I always forget people's names by the end of the conversation.
What was the name that we gave you, fake name?
What was your fake name, Bill?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Bill, thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story.
Hey, you're very welcome.
I enjoyed it.
I watch your show on YouTube, and I totally enjoy.
it. You know, it reminds me of so many things. Yeah. Well, now you're going to have your story on there, too. So let me know what you think after you listen to it and thanks so much for calling it and sharing it. When do you think it might air?
Soon, very soon, either this Monday, next Wednesday, next Monday, next two weeks. I'll have a look for it. All right. Awesome. You're the best. Thanks, Bill. Thanks for calling you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Bye.
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