Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 627 - Fetish Friday: Jon and Roxy Are Both Into Wearing Pantyhose, Encasement and More

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Jon and his girl Roxy have a pantyhose fetish and they both called in to talk all about it. When did Jon first realized he was into pantyhose? When did he start wearing them? And, when and how did he ...get Roxy to be super into them to? Tune in for all the details including the memory his mother shared with him that shed light on his pantyhose fetish, when he started stealing them and what he would do with them, how and why he was always super open to all the women he dated and how how they were all ok with it, the girl he dated who liked pantyhose encasement and what they did together, how he met Roxy and how she was super hesitant at first, how and why Roxy started researching the fetish and how that changed her mind, how she started surprising him by wearing hose, how she got him to start wearing for her as well and why that was important to her, how she eventually became obsessed with it and now requires it at all times, how they started trying encasement and what she loves about it, how she discovered he was posting pics of her on instagram as NylonRoxy and how she felt about it and why they had to stop, how she got into encasement and got him into it too, brands and colors that she loves best, Jon’s top tips on how to get your partner totally into wearing hose, how how and why he now wears skirts and heels for Roxy and how he feels about dressing up for her plus a whole lot more. To see anonymous pics of ROXY & JON plus most of other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Show. There's that word again. Anyway, listen, this is a fetish Friday. So I'm going to tell you hosers that are listening to this episode because this is a good effing episode for any guy that's into panty hose. Okay, you're going to love John Roxy. But before I tell you about them, I'm going to tell you about my Patreon page that is, or my Patreon tier that is strictly for hosers.
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Starting point is 00:02:52 I really don't take it personally. But anyway, that's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast to sign up. It's patria. It's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. I will put a link directly to it in the description. Now, because it is Fetish Fridays, I have on. John and Roxy talking about panties. Now listen, John is a guy that was really into hose. We go back to his story, like in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:03:21 When did he first realize he was into panty hose? then how did it play out in his intimate life? Like, did he tell his girls? He told all of his girls, okay, about the fact that he wanted them to wear pantos. And they all wore pantos for him. This guy has game, okay? And you want to listen to his game, the way he was able to get all his girlfriends into pantos, including Roxy, who was like the one girl that was very anti at the most.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And now she's the girl that, like, has a panios fetish herself. You're not going to believe the whole story. You're going to want to listen. You're going to want to take notes because John just, did things a certain way and it worked for him. But I really think what he did is very good for other hosers to do. He talks about how he got all his girls into wearing for him. He didn't wear early on.
Starting point is 00:04:07 He just started wearing with his girl, Roxy. He talks about all the girls he met before her and all the naughty things that he did with girls in panty hose. There was some encasement going down where girls before her. But then in comes Roxy. And she gets on the phone, okay? as well to talk about their whole relationship. He talks a little bit about when he met her,
Starting point is 00:04:29 how she was very hesitant to wear panty hose for him and how he was like ready to dump her. I mean, it really was a deal breaker for him. I mean, the girl that's going to be with him is going to wear panty hose for him because he knew that's what he liked. She decided to go all in because she realized, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:48 this is what she had to do for this guy if she was going to stay for him. She didn't want to lose him. she decided to surprise him she started wearing pantos for him she started really delving into the fetish learning about it and then started pushing it further for him she asked him to wear for her and then he did and then she started you know wearing more for him and then they started wearing together and then she started making him wear even more things like girly things like high heels and skirts and she really pushed it they do encasement they dress up they wear hose together to the point where like she will
Starting point is 00:05:23 say and she says it on this episode that she needs to be wearing pantyhose and needs him to be wearing pantyhose to have sex like that's how she's wired herself that way she now has the fetish she is like the unicorn okay guys like let me tell you you have all wanted at least the hosers on my patreon have all been looking for the female hoser and here she is you're not going to believe what roxy got into She actually found out because he's into photography and he was taking picks of her in pantyhoes. And while she was Googling the fetish, she found pictures of herself and realized he was like pimping her out on an Instagram page, not like her face, so she didn't get mad. But she found out that that's what he was into.
Starting point is 00:06:07 They wound up setting up a whole Instagram page that got a lot of followers, like 50,000. It's not there anymore, but in case you've ever heard of them, they were nylon rocks. You remember her? If you ever found her on Instagram, well, she's on. today, that's Roxy. She was nylon, Roxy. They were taking picks. They do encasement. They do all kinds of
Starting point is 00:06:28 naughty things together. They're super into it. She talks about, you know, how and why she got very into it, what she gets out of it and why it was important for her to wear for him, but why it was important for him to wear for her. She explains
Starting point is 00:06:44 it. It all makes sense. It's all super fascinating. He calls her his Panihose Queen. Trust me, she is the Panyhose Queen. You know, you're all going to love Roxy. They sent me in Picks for my Patreon. They're on my Patreon.
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Starting point is 00:07:38 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. I have John first. Okay, first I'm going to be talking to John. Then I'm going to be talking to his girl, Roxy, right? John is a hoser. And Roxy is. is your partner who's down with you being a hoser. She's like in the hoser community, Roxy's like the fucking unicorn.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And we are going to hear, really are going to hear from the unicorn. The unicorn is in the room currently. But right now, first, we're going to hear from you. And I'm going to get like your whole backstory on your pantyho's fetish, right? And then we'll talk up until a point where you meet Roxy and you explain your guy's relationship. And then we're going to have the unicorn on to talk all about it as well. Right, John. So listen, let's talk about you. You sound young to me. How old are you in Roxy? 38 and 35. So you're 38, she's 35. Now tell me when, how far back can do we, should do we need to go to get to the point where you realize you have a panty hose fetish?
Starting point is 00:08:40 I don't think I realized it for quite a, quite a while. I had a friend that had a really hot girlfriend that were. worked at a bank and I had gone into a room and I had stolen a pair of her panty hose. And I think that's where it started. But, okay, but before that, because at that age, you're old enough to, like, be sexualized, right? You had the hormones where you, you know, the guy knows someone at a bank. So you're in your teenage years at least. Before that, when you're really young, do you remember any kind of visions of pantyhose or anything like that or nothing until that girl at the bank?
Starting point is 00:09:16 actually that was the first time I actually realized it and then at in a couple years later my mom had brought up this random conversation about how I would always cry when we would she would drop me off at the babysitter and she told me the only thing that stopped me from crying was me touching her panting his legs oh she she thought it she thought it was really funny and I didn't have any recollection of that until she mentioned it and then as I started thinking about it was like yeah that actually did happen oh my god how interesting is that yeah like no idea no recollection until she brought it up and then it all kind of came back to me so somehow that was soothing to you and that was the only thing that actually calmed you down yes that's fascinating and so powerful if you think about that connection right yeah absolutely And it's funny, like, thinking back on it and be like, oh, well, that's where it came from. Like, because I had no idea where it stem from. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Until she brought it up. Thought it was funny. It was like, hey, that was a really funny time in your life. I know, it's just like, wait a minute. That's where it all started. Completely because for some reason, that tactile sensation actually took your emotions from, like, terrible and horrible to normal. You know, so of course you're going to be wired that that thing.
Starting point is 00:10:45 thing for the rest of your life is going to be something that's going to be pleasurable for you. I don't know. So when do you, though, okay, so you have that moment when you see that girl. Now, what is that first experience like with that girl in the bank? Like, what happened around that time? There was actually, I just had saw her come home from work one day and go into her room. And she had left for the rest of the day and I had gone in there. I was like maybe thinking I was going to steal a pair of underwear or I actually don't know what was going on in my head.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And I ended up stealing a pair of her panty hose. Uh-huh. And he kind of took off from there and I just held on to them in my teenage years. So you take them home and you're jerking off with them. Now, are you wearing them or are you just feeling them? Just jerking off in them. While you're wearing them or while you're holding them? No, I wasn't wearing at all.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Like I didn't. even think about wearing for the I mean it honestly the wearing just kind of came about in the last few years yeah we'll get to that so that wasn't there then right but it was just the sensation right the tactile thing you're holding them the way the way they felt knowing there were hers that they were dirty guys are so guys are fucking funny right the not like because you were maybe going to steal panties right you wanted some sort of thing that was like on a girl that was hot but it is like
Starting point is 00:12:13 the correlation is there that you chose pantyhose, right? And I guess you put that all together when you talked to your mom and she told you that. But at that time, you didn't know, right? No, not at all. Like, it honestly, I think the internet came out when I was maybe 16 or 17. And that's when I started Googling and or like searching for it and then realized it was a thing. Yeah, right? And so, like, was it confusing to you?
Starting point is 00:12:39 How did you feel about it? Were you like, what the fuck's going on here? No, not at all. I mean, I just thought it was really hot. I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. I mean, growing up in 80s, 90s, almost everybody wore. Hey, hosers, I got a surprise for you. My sponsor for today's Fetish Friday episode is Lay Bell,
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Starting point is 00:15:08 Wait, wait, wait, why? What were they wearing? Were they wearing, like, panty house or tight? Oh, yeah. They would, and they would, like, there was several scenes where they would take their shoes off and just really turned me on. Oh, my God. I can't tell you how so many hosers before you. That's where it all starts. The dangling of the foot with the shoe, you know, and most of the time it's a teacher. But you remember seeing these women on these shows doing the same thing. And I really wonder if, like, a hoser was taken, you know, a hoser cameraman got that shot. And he was filming it for a reason. Yeah, like, because it's not like, listen, when I started to do my show, that was one of the things that I found. Because in the beginning when I started doing my show, I had to go out looking for people to call in, right? So I would go to Craigslist and I would search through the ads and I would email people like, hey, do you want to be on my show?
Starting point is 00:15:57 And I would say, by far, the two fetish, the two fetishes that I came, saw the most were foot fetish and pantyho's fetish. I was like, what the fuck's going on here? You know what I mean? And then I mean, that's why I decided to start a whole Patreon tier just dedicated to hosers. That's what I call guys that like hose because, you know, I realize it's like super common as in when fetishes are concerned. Like it's not like the majority of guys are into panty hose, but a lot of guys are, you know? So wait. So now you didn't wear at first.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You were just strictly like holding on to them, jerking off, getting really turned on now. Like when you start to date girls, were you putting it out there? was like your thing and asking them to wear for you? Yeah, pretty much right away. Like as soon as I started being sexual, I would let the girls know about it pretty much from the start. And because it was the 80s and the 90s and they were wearing them, like was, were they all cool with it? At this point, were you wearing too? No, I mean, it honestly probably didn't start until like when I was 20, about 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So it was like 2006 or five at the time. Oh, okay. So like nobody was wearing on at the time. And it was, you know, nobody liked any. It was like. Right. So how would your girlfriends react? It started off.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I'd always get them into stockings at first. And I'd always show an appreciation for it or I would be a different person sexually. Yeah. They would see that it was like power. They had power in that. They'd put them on, you'd go crazy for it. Yeah, and they really enjoyed that. So I would start them off with the stockings, and then I would get them into, shortly after that, I would, you know, when I was younger, I would say, like, hey, I really like the way they feel.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I want to, like, feel the rest of your body in them. So we would go to a store, and then I would buy a pantyos that had, like, the tights in them, like, the pantyos stockings. They, like, you know, they look like pantyhoes, but they also had stockings on them. So it was like, it was an easy transition for them, I suppose. Mm-hmm. But that's usually how it happened. You're like a groomer. You know how to groom women.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yeah, no, like, and they definitely appreciated the way I treated them sexually or emotionally after they put them on. And it was pretty easy from then on to, like, try to get girls into them. I just kind of had a pattern and was like, all right, start with stockings because, you know, most girls are okay with thigh highs or stockings. Yeah. And then. Especially when it comes to sex, right? Like as for a sexual reason.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Because it's like hot. It's like wearing lingerie for your guy. It goes with it. Right. So it was easy to do that. Yeah, it is kind of a good gateway thing to start off with, right? I think that that's kind of smart. You were like smart in the way you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But when does like the fact that you wanted to wear? come into play. Way later. You said just recently? Well, I guess with my current girlfriend, so it's been maybe about 10 years. Okay, so wait. Let's start to wear it. Okay. So let's, before we meet Roxy, right? Before that, you start to tell these girls, most of them, like, are able to transition into wearing panty hose with you. But like, did you have any long-term girlfriends at that time? And were they okay with like, like, were you always asking them to wear it all the time? And did they get annoyed? by that or were they okay to do it? Like, you know, how was it? No, I mean, I think it got to the point where they understood it and they would, they would wear them purposefully. Right, because they loved the attention you gave them.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yes. So like it came to the point where they would wear them to work, send me photos or just wear them when they come over. And they would tell their friends about it and their friends would think it was pretty hot. really they're girlfriends I had a couple girls telling me like hey I told my friends about it and they all think it's really sexy right and now
Starting point is 00:20:13 were you like talking to any of your guy friends about like how much you were into pantyhose like did you find out like were you open or you kept that just between you and your girls I just kept that between me and the girls right now did you have favorite brands or favorite colors that stood out for you mostly nude shiny nudes
Starting point is 00:20:32 wolfords were always up there Falkay mostly Wolfs that was like if I can get a girl in a wolfhards it was like that was
Starting point is 00:20:42 that was like the pinnacle of Panias for me Right Did you ever When your mother brought up That whole thing
Starting point is 00:20:49 About the Panias Did you cop to anything At that point With her or no And did you ever get caught Stealing anyone? No not at all I definitely didn't confess that
Starting point is 00:20:58 But I was dating Somebody At one point and we would have pantyos sex and we had broken up and I was just like oh I'm going to take all her panties because I don't want her doing it with somebody else or using them somebody else okay and my mom had found that bag of her pantyos and she's like wait what is this are you wearing them are you gay I'm like no no no I was like when I was moving out excellent accidentally took the wrong bag and I took these home right oh that's so funny and it doesn't even mean you're gay that's what's so interesting, right? I mean, I have a lot of hosers who wear pantyhose and it has nothing to do with your sexuality. Some people
Starting point is 00:21:39 it does, but some people it doesn't. You know what I mean? It doesn't, but it's just, of course, that's the way your mom would react. Yeah, absolutely. But there was a lot of different women that I had sex in pantyhose and some of them I approached differently and like, for instance, it was this
Starting point is 00:21:57 girl at work that was really cute. All the guys were into her. I like had never spoken to her. ever and then one day she was wearing a pair of black tights to work and I had just approached her and was just like hey come over she was she was like what are you talking about she's like I hardly know you it's like well come over and I was like wear this outfit come over today she was just kind of taken back by it was like I don't know you we don't talk to each other ever I was like all right well I'm off at five give me a call she's like I don't have your number I was
Starting point is 00:22:30 like you'll figure it out oh my god you got game okay I'm Sorry, but you got game. All the stuff you're talking about. This is the kind of shit that girl's kind of like. You know what I mean? Just, you know, being the alpha, telling her what the fuck to do. Yeah. And she ended up giving me a call at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:22:46 She, like, got my number from a coworker or something. And she had come over and we had sex in her tights. Right. She kept them on for me. And was she like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, what did you do to me? No, I don't think so I mean she was really into it
Starting point is 00:23:06 Back when I was younger I used to fancy myself as a photographer So it was very easy For me to take photos of all these women And their pantyhows Oh wow Very open to it Now do you still have that stash of photos
Starting point is 00:23:20 Oh yeah I have quite the collection Wow that's so funny But yeah you like I said You definitely have game And was always successful At getting these girls into doing stuff for you How does panty hose sex go down? I never had sex with a hoser, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:37 So, like, what do you do? You cut a hole, you rip a hole, you keep them on. Is that what's going down when you're having sex with a girl? This is with you not wearing, like she's wearing, right? How does that work? Or do you get crotchless panty hose? I mean, she was wearing an outfit from work, right? Yeah, she was wearing just a regular pair, you know, panty hose.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And they use, it's typically they come over. I touch them. I, you know, kiss her. feet, touch their legs, just, you know, very sensual with them. Yeah. And then I'll rip them open for the most part if they're, if it's a new person. Right. Now, do you, would you say, because some of my hosers have said like, oh, you know, it's not
Starting point is 00:24:20 just so much just the panty hos. Most hosers have a leg fetish. It's the panty hose on legs. do you have like a foot fetish or a leg fetish that goes along with it or is it strictly like the panty hose the feeling of them and stuff I would say it's the panty hose it's mostly a panty hose foot fetish like I I wouldn't be into bare feet I would always want them in panty hose right so it's and it's not a leg fetish it's not like you're like obsessed with women's legs maybe a to a certain extent, but I definitely think it's how the pantyhows accentuate women's legs. Yeah. That shine.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It makes them look perfect. Yeah, absolutely. Right. And that's why I was very surprised when I was first doing my show and talking to all these hosers that, you know, they all love the nude pantyhose, which a lot of times is like women's worst kind of pantyhose, right? A lot of girls, they like, sheer black or, you know, maybe fish neds, I don't know, but nude. We're all like, oh my God. But yet those are always the ones that guys like. And it started to make sense with me because I just have talked to so many so far.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Because really what you want is like that perfect, that leg looking like a real leg, but like perfect and super shiny and feeling like silky smooth, right? But still looking like a leg, correct? Absolutely. Yeah. Right. And that's why they say maybe it's a leg thing because it just accentuates and makes the leg look great, you know? Do you like, do you have a preference for like control top or do you like seamless?
Starting point is 00:26:01 What is your thing? I definitely do like seamless. I would say my favorite pair of Pannios is Wolford Neon 40s. Uh-huh. And what about those that you love the most? I'm sure every poser knows. Just the shine. And the way they feel, the way they look, they're top tier.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Now, you know, I recently did a review on my Patreon of a pair. I don't know if you heard my episode with Robert from Shaping's. com. He sent me a pair of Eternonines, the CDRs, right? Yeah. And the minute I put them on, I fucking ripped them.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm like one in each leg. And he's like, oh, you're not putting them on right. He sent me a pair of like hosiery gloves. Like, I mean, do you know how to put them on correctly? Like, all that kind of good stuff. Do you have?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah. It's gone to the point where we're pretty accurate at putting them on. You know how. So, okay, so let's talk about Roxy now. So, like, how and when do you meet her? So, well, We met at work together.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It was a very slow development on how we started dating. We both were getting out of relationships and wasn't totally serious. We were just trying to, like, date. So it wasn't very serious at the time. At this point, you're still not wearing, correct? Like, you start to wear while you're with Roxy, right? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I mean, there's maybe been an occasion where I had worn them with other people. Mm-hmm. One of my, okay, so if we're going back a little bit, one of my girlfriends that I was dating had told some of my close friends that were females about my fetish. Uh-huh. And one of the girls was very interested in it and had reached out to me about it. Interesting. What did she say? Like, hey, I heard that you're into this and I am too?
Starting point is 00:27:48 No, she was more so like, I'm really curious about it. and I mean I wasn't like I wasn't attracted to her she wasn't my type at the time but I took the opportunity to like do some panty hose things with her like what you do you know she would wear you know she would wear them on her breasts like that was like the first time I'd seen anybody wear them on their chest
Starting point is 00:28:14 oh that's interesting I never heard that is and that was her idea Yeah, for the most part, I would say so. She kind of looked into it and was curious about it. And so I would, you know, do that on the side with her, you know, time to time. And there was a couple times that I would put some on. Like it wasn't like something that I thought was, I guess I wasn't really into it at the time. Right. But was it on her request?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yes, because it was more so like her asking what else is there. What else could we do? anything else. Wow, I would love to talk to her. Like, what was going on in her mind that she was like, in case my breasts and panty hose and fondle them. Now, let me ask you this as a hosier, like, did it add something to her breasts when it had panty hose on or was it neither here nor there? No, I mean, she would put them on and, you know, I would, you know, have intercourse with them. I mean, I don't know what kind of verbiage we're using here to do. but I would, you know, slide my dick in there.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Mm-hmm. And we would, uh. No, but I mean, did it add? Like, because, you know, we always talk about, I'm always talking to hosers who are, like, obsessed with panty hose on legs. This is a situation where you had panty hose on her tits, correct? Like, she would put them in there. And, like, so, like, did it, was that a turn on to you because the pantyhose were on there?
Starting point is 00:29:44 So it added even more. Like, of course you like tits, right? Your guy, but, like, was the pantyos on them, like, oh my god top of the mountain oh yeah it was pretty awesome it was great we had a lot of fun she definitely i definitely did a lot of my exploring with this person trying out new things with her right and then you mean roxy and then yeah yeah you know i dated a couple of the girls got them into hose into it and you know maybe i would wear once or twice but i i didn't really start wearing until i met Roxy. Okay, so now you guys meet, it was a slow burn, but then you get together. Now,
Starting point is 00:30:23 I'm assuming you were friends beforehand. I mean, did you ever cop to your whole pantyho's fetish thing before you were dating her? No, not at all. I mean, I hinted towards it quite a bit. Back at the time, American Apparel was prominent. Yeah. And they, I had this one magazine where This girl was wearing black panty hose and the, but was cut up. Uh-huh. And I'd always leave it on my counter and try to, like, have her see that or be like, oh, hey, that's hot. And, like, she wasn't receptive to it.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Uh-huh. I mean, the sex was great, but she was younger at the time. So I felt like she was probably one of the harder girls to get into pantyos at the time. Oh, interesting. She was a challenge. I just felt like it was. more of a challenge with her. Like other girls were a little bit more mature, a little older, and she was younger. And it even had gotten to the point where we were dating for some time.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And I had told a friend like, oh, well, the sex isn't that great. It's not where I wanted to be. Interesting that you went from there to where you are now, right? Yeah. So it got to the point where the sex was almost boring. And I felt like I kept dropping hints to her. and she wasn't receptive. And I was like, I don't know if I could date this girl anymore because I don't feel comfortable getting her into tights. That's interesting. And how long into your relationship did you start to feel that way? I would say maybe three months in because other girls, it was almost immediate.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah, it sounds like you were always straight up right from the get-go. You had your routine that always worked. Every girl fell for it, right? Absolutely. And this one was a little bit harder. Right. And you were like, fuck this. I could get any girl to cop to it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So I could see why you'd get annoyed after three months because you're just used to get in your way. Absolutely. Yeah. And it was just the fact that she was younger, maybe a little bit more hip and wasn't into the whole panos thing. Like just, you know, I dropped the hints, but just she just wasn't receptive. Right. So how did you change things around? I think it was
Starting point is 00:32:48 it wasn't my birthday but it was right around my birthday she finally got the hint about the American apparel tights okay I mean you never put it on the table like and just kept straight out and tell her a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:04 that was just one time she was wearing some black tights when we had gone out and we had gone home and I wanted her to keep him on and she just refused to keep them on and took them off. And I was like, all right, this isn't, this isn't going to work for me. Yeah. But I think finally one day she did buy the American Apparel tights that I kept hinting at.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Mm-hmm. Oh, she went and got them. Did you get them for her? She just went out because she knew that you were down for that. Yeah. She went out and got them. I think it was Valentine's Day or some, maybe something like, oh, you know. That was thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So, yeah, she ended a bunch of them. those and we had a really good time in them. But I don't think she's, she didn't understand that it was a Panias thing yet. Right. How could she? I mean, no, like I said, I didn't even know. The only reason why I know all about it now is because I've been talking to Hozers for years, but a lot of people have no idea about any of this. Yeah, no, not at all. Yeah. I don't think she did either. Right. And then I think at some point, you know, we were still using. those and then she had maybe purchased some like pretty pollies from from one of like I think maybe
Starting point is 00:34:22 Nordstrom or something she purchased some pretty pollies uh you know there were that you know nude panty hose with like you know a black garter almost looked like a stocking kind of thing oh I'd never heard of pretty pollies I'm sure my hosers have yeah so I think she purchased those one day and we had a really good time in them. She had come over and we had, you know, sex all night long. Mm-hmm. And I think that's when she realized it was a panos thing.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Right. But do you remember ever having like a specific conversation with her about it? Oh, I don't think I ever had that specific conversation with her or like ever vocalized it. But I think after the time she wore those pretty pollies and we, you know, we slept together. She picked up on it. Right, right, right. And this is early on in your relationship. You're still just a couple months in, right? You're not like at a year mark or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:35:19 No, we're probably like five, four months. And then on my birthday, she had purchased some Wolford's color was marmer at the time. So it was like this white color. So she came over to my place and was just wearing a trench coat in those and a pair of black heels. And, you know, we went out to dinner. She was wearing a. It was, you know, and then we had an amazing night, I would say, you know, amazing, you know, sexual night together. Mm-hmm. I wonder, I probably need to talk to Roxy. You know, like, I wonder if she was getting some sort of vibes from you that she needed to step it up in that panty-hose department to keep you. Because you were starting to feel like this is not going to fucking work, right? and you didn't really know how, like I wonder on her end if she sensed it on some level.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, no, I think she picked up on it, you know, after the time she purchased a pretty polys between the Woolfords. And noticed a change maybe. Yeah, and she mentioned that she had looked it up online. Oh, okay. Right, right. Because I think women have very good intuition, right? You know, here you are having a relationship. you're not really bringing it up
Starting point is 00:36:43 but you're feeling not so satisfied. The sex, something was not there, right? For you, I'm sure she was picking up on it and was trying to figure something out, right? And she figured it out. Yeah, no, then that's when I noticed her being more engaging in the fetish and asking me if I wanted to do other things. And then that's when,
Starting point is 00:37:11 You know, you know, I would ask her to, you know, jerk me off in my panty hose or, you know, like put some on my penis and jerk me off. Right, because you like to just put, in case your cock, like, in a pair of panty hose, right? Yeah, yeah. And so she was, she was the one that kind of pushed the fetish forward because she knew about it. Mm-hmm. She Googled it. Yeah, smart. And looked into it.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And then from there, you know, she would just always wear it from being public or, you know, pretty much just wore them all the time. And our sex life just kind of picked up from that point. And is that? Because I know that you've always said since the beginning about you wearing hose, it just started more recently. I mean, so like engaging in all this kind of activity and playing around with your fetish with Roxy because she was super open about it. Is that when you started to wear more and get into it more? Yes. There was one time we went out for my birthday and she kept asking me, is there anything else I want to do? Is there anything else you want to do? Like, you know, just kept kind of pushing it. And I kind of think she knew what she was doing. So, you know, I had asked her that I've always wanted someone to play with me with pantos on their face. Oh, like encased. Yes. And she, she, seemed to be all about it when I mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And pretty much from then on is where we started our, you know, Gennio's fetish. Exploration. Exploration, yes. Yeah, tell me some of the things that you guys got into because, I mean, the casement, tell me. So, yeah, as soon as she started wearing on her face, it kind of just opened things up. And then it, you know, got to the point where, you know, we would both wear a
Starting point is 00:39:11 completely she would ask me to wear some or put some on my face too and like kiss her go down on her and then it got to the point where we're both that's you know got to the point that's where we're both fully encased in panty hose and rubbing and kissing and touching each other wow what's that like it must be kind of like if you're like all like you have like you know body oil all over right so slippery both people. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's just it's euphoria. I mean, I can't even explain it. It's just it it's pretty amazing just being fully in pantyhose and your partner also being in pantyhose. And where do you find the full encasements? Like I'm assuming on Amazon like I mean, where do they sell that shit? There's this website that we use called fantasy fetish, fantasy fantasy
Starting point is 00:40:06 I think it's called fantasy fetish.com and it's all pantyhose. And you can buy full body panty hose or cocoon panty hose. And that's where it started. Like, I mean, we would start ordering from this website and we would both just completely be covered in pantyose head to toe. And just rub all over each other. Yeah. And it was pretty nice. And I mean, that's where it started where she would ask me to wear some.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And then things just developed. I mean, we kept going further with the fetish. And then they got to the point where she always wanted me to wear pantos when we had sex. Interesting. So now she's got the fucking fetish. Yeah. So like we would start having sex. And she would ask me like, do you want to put any on?
Starting point is 00:41:07 And then it just became, it just kind of became the norm where she. she always wanted me to wear a penny. That's when we got sex. Wow. You hit the effing lottery, right? I mean, here you are. Like, she's begging you. Because, listen, a lot of times the problem is, you know, a guy is pushing his girl to do one third of what your girl does for her.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You know what I mean? And she's just like, not only is she not into it. She doesn't want it to ever get to that point where she has to wear every single time. But, like, what happened in your situation is, like, Roxy then. became into it, like that she wants and needs that adoring sex, correct? Yeah. Yeah, I know. And like, I would always ask her, like, why do you want me to wear them?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like, I mean, her thing was like, I want to turning on. Whatever makes you hard is hot for her. Yeah, turn me on. And I'm like, well, what do you like? And I would always like try to fish and be like, what's your fetish? What are you into? Like, I'm open to doing whatever you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And she would. just say whatever turns you on. So, you know, me wearing panties for her would, you know, really turn her on. So it just because it's turning you on. But let's talk to Roxy now because I want to really dig
Starting point is 00:42:23 in and see, because it sounds like it's turning her on too. You know, and maybe it's more than just because I wonder if you're having sex all the time, right? And it starts out because your guy is so horny for it. I get that, right? There's power in that. You're really turning someone else on. But I wonder
Starting point is 00:42:39 if over time she got into the sensation and the feeling that now even just that turns her on. Do you know what I mean? And it's not all just about you wearing and you turning you on. Maybe it's a turn on for her that feel and that tactile sensation. That's why
Starting point is 00:42:56 we need to. And the good news is Rocky is sitting right there. And so now we're going to do the next 30 minutes talking to Roxy. Put Roxy on the phone. The unicorn. The girl that every guy is going to want to steal away from you. Hello? Hi, Roxy.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You've been listening to our whole conversation, right? Which is perfect. So you know everything that we've gone through so far, right? Yes. I've been listening in. So what I want to know from you, because he was saying it really started out where, like, you know, anything that turns him on turns you on. And I totally get that, right?
Starting point is 00:43:27 There's power in knowing your guy is so horny for something. And that in turn turns you on. But I wonder if all this encasement and wearing a hose on both ends, doing it for so long because you've been together for a long time, right? Like if now it's a turn on for you just because it's a turn on, right? Like it's not even just about his turn on. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, do you like the feeling of wearing while you're having sex as well besides the fact that it's turning him on?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah, no, definitely the feeling of it and like it feels really good, but like doing it together. also like adds like another level to it like when I was doing it before when it was just me like it was fun it was new it was something I hadn't like experienced before but then doing it together but also getting him to do it with me it was it was different like it was like okay I'm doing this for you but now you're also doing this for me and that's when it like that's when it really changed it was like okay this isn't just about me and in Panihas this is about us together I love that because I think that a lot of women don't see it that way. You know, it's interesting that because you were able, and I think that maybe it's because
Starting point is 00:44:45 some women don't ever get past like square one, right? And so, and they just assume in the, because probably it started out in the beginning, right? Like you said, it's about him. But you're doing it for him because you're his girl, right? But then eventually, because you kept engaging, you got to the point where you really saw it as like, no, this isn't just about him. This is about us together. and you and you're getting something out of it too, right?
Starting point is 00:45:10 And maybe like other women don't understand that because they sort of jump ship. Right? Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah. At least for me, like, I was pretty conservative before. So it was something like so new and so different and I really didn't understand it. So as I was doing it and as I was enjoying it, I was like, all right, I'm enjoying this.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But also like, I'm the only one doing this. need I need him to do something for me too. Like, you know, this is a two-way street. So that's how and how it first started. Okay, I want to experience this from the other side. So you're like you wear something for me. Yes, exactly. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah. And so now, because he said, like he, in the beginning, you weren't really open to it, but he was assuming that you were going and doing some research. Is that what happened? Here you are. Let's go back to the. beginning of the relationship and hear it from your point of view. You meet this guy at work. You both, you know, eventually wind up together. It's early on into your relationship. He's trying
Starting point is 00:46:17 to hint to you that he fucking loves, you know, these American apparel panty. I was like, what was going on from your standpoint? Oh my gosh. I like totally did not get it at all. I was like, I was like, what is this? And we were having sex and the sex was good. And then when it got to that point, I think he mentioned about where he had told his friend how he was kind of getting bored with it. And I think I even brought it up to him as, hey, like, where is this going? I feel like you're not really satisfied anymore. Are we to the point of not seeing each other anymore? And that's when he kind of opened up like I need a little bit more. Yeah, right. So there was a, there was hints that something was a mess, right? Yeah. That's what I would figure. I didn't know
Starting point is 00:47:01 if you just got that like intuition wise or he had brought it up. So there was like a slight conversation. I mean, you knew that things weren't going to move forward. Yes, exactly. So that's when I bought the American apparel tights. I kind of like they're almost like a chop. It was like just like a cutout. But the rest of it was just like panty hose. So yeah, so I came over to his place with them. We started playing around. And again too, like at that point, I didn't even know it was like a painting his fetish. I thought it was like a lingerie type thing. Oh, like he thinks this is sexy. And then not too long after that, he had gone on vacation and I hadn't seen him for like two weeks. So we made plans to have Valentine's together. So I bought some thigh highs and I showed up at his place in my
Starting point is 00:47:54 the highs, like, and I wore, like, a coat over with nothing else. And I wear, like, this cute kind of see-through body suit with it. So we, we were playing around that night. And I, I want to say, this is so long ago, but I feel like I remember him pulling out some pantyhose that he had in his dresser. And he had me, he had me put them on. So I put them on. And I don't know if I asked him if he was in the panty house or why he had them. There's some. type of a conversation that happened with those pantyhows that he pulled out. And so yeah, so I put them on and we were playing. And then about a month and a half or so later was his birthday. So I bought some Wilford pantyhows and like this cute dress and took him at dinner and wore some my heels.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And then we went back to his place and we were playing around in some pantyhouse. And I think that's the night that I asked him like, what else do you want to do with panty hose? Because I kind of, at that point I kind of had started looking up. I think I had looked up like fanny hose, like lingerie or like fashion or something like that. And so that's when I started reading in a little bit more about Pennyho's fetishes and what men like to do in pantyhose. And so I was kind of hinting at like, hey, I'm open to exploring this with you without admitting that I had discovered what his fetish was. And he has exactly. because he didn't bring it up to you yet.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You didn't want to make him feel uncomfortable, but you wanted to let him know that you were okay with it because you were doing research on the DL. Yep. And I think he mentioned that he was like into photography. So I think that same night, like I let him take some photos of me in my panty house. And, you know, from then on, I think we went on like a vacation together. And like the whole time I kept wearing like panty house.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Again, very conservative, just like black tights with like skirts or just like keeping it very simple. And then on our vacation is when it like explored further and I got him to put some on and we were playing around with them. And we had talked about making like an Instagram for Panty House. Do you have that? We used to have it. It got shut down. Yeah. Unfortunately that happened.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But I didn't know that he actually ended up making a Pany House page for us. And so flash forward like maybe three months later. I'm like on Instagram, looking up panty hose and, you know, getting different ideas. And I come across a painting house post. I'm like, that looks like me. You are fucking kidding me.
Starting point is 00:50:35 No. And so then I go and look at the page and there's, I don't know, maybe a 10 posts or so and I'm like, and you couldn't tell that it was me, but like I knew it was me because I know what I look like. You know your house or whatever's in the background, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I
Starting point is 00:50:51 find that. How did you feel about that? Did that make you mad? Were you like, you understood it, but you were like, what the fuck? I mean, I wasn't mad. I understood it. If anything, I was more so, wait, we should have done this together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Why don't you tell me, right? Yeah. Yeah, like, so if anything, I was just like, oh, like, we could have enhanced this more by doing it together. Yeah. So I came over to his place that day and I put on some Wolfords and Sunday on 40s with some shorts and some sneakers. in some sneakers and I showed up to his place and I looked pretty good, not going to lie. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to call him out right now about this Fannieho's page. So I did it. I was like, hey, I found this page and he just couldn't believe it. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm into it. Just include me in on this page. Yeah, you got an outfit on right now. Let's take some picks and post it, right? Exactly. So we had that page for probably a year or so. And then Did you get a lot of followers on there? Yeah. We got... How many? Fifteen thousand. About like 15,000.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I wonder if any of my hosers knew of it because, listen, I think that, you know, people that are in that community are kind of in the note. What was the name of it? Just in case anyone was like, oh, my God, I know them. I want to say it was... Nylon Roxy. Nylon Roxy. Nylon Roxy.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Okay, I like that name. Okay. Nylon Roxy was the name. I wonder. Hosers, let me know if you... and you email me if you remember them. You're going to send me in picks for my Patreon, right? We could send some pictures.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, yeah, cool. So it was Nylon Roxy. You had a big following on there, and how long before you guys got shut down? I was like probably about a year. Okay. And did you ever think to do anything else with your pictures? Do you have anything else going down now, like an only fan's or anything? No.
Starting point is 00:52:46 We've talked about it. At least not that I know of. Yeah. Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. You're right. Like, maybe he is doing that. We've talked about it, but like, it's so hard of social media. Things get connected to, you know, your actual real life.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And we want to keep it very separate. So we've been careful about it. So not that we won't ever do it again. Right, right. So you have all that. He still takes pictures. He's into taking photography. Now, tell me about a little bit about the encasement, like when?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Because I know that you eventually were like, okay, I'm wearing for you. I want you to wear and did it become like a, I know like the turn on is like he's getting turned on, but do you like seeing him wearing them? Is that like kinky to you? Hot? Yeah. Oh yeah. No. It's definitely kinky. It's definitely hot. I like that he does it for me. I think from the beginning to like why I was so conservative about it was like I'm the only one participating in this. So it's kind of just made me feel like a little bit secluded or maybe that I was, I'm trying to think of the word that I'm. I'm trying to give the word that I. wanting you use here that you were like for me yeah exactly and i wanted i wanted his participation i wanted to know that i'm not doing this just for you like you're doing this for me too so that's how it first started getting him into it because i kind of wanted to test it i kind of wanted to see okay if this is really his fetish or his sexual fantasy what are you also willing to do for me too and it kind of it turned me on that he that he was uh willing to do that for me and i don't know
Starting point is 00:54:20 I guess to be like vulnerable and, you know, do something that's kind of outside of the norm. Yeah, like it's a little bit of like, oh, you were like doming him. Like, he's fucking do this for me. And like, I don't know. Is there like an aspect to that about it for you a little bit? Oh yeah. Definitely. I think we both kind of have like alpha personalities.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah. So getting him to do that for me and seeing him, you know, dress up and put panty hose on, like that's kind of like my, my. my control, I guess, a little bit in the relationship. Yeah, I mean, I enjoy it. And that's a turn on for you. Oh, yeah. And then the casement, like, you know, who was, whose idea was that? Wasn't that yours?
Starting point is 00:55:04 I think it was my idea. So, I mean, how do you go from being, like, a really conservative girl to be like, oh, let's fucking encase each other and, like, you know, have sex? I mean, honestly, like, the whole reason from the beginning was, like we we had really good sex and you know I when he when we were talking about possibly not seeing each other anymore and then I was like all right well this isn't going to happen I'm going to do I'm going to participate in this to make to make this relationship work yeah so then so after like doing the research and I enjoyed it like I enjoyed dressing up I enjoyed the way he touched me
Starting point is 00:55:42 I enjoyed the way how he made me feel in them so when I was reading about it I had read how a lot of men also like putting on panty house and I was enjoying it so I was like you know what I want him to enjoy this as well and get him into panty house so I had him put panty house on and I kind of just kind of kept asking like what he wants because from what I had read you know a lot of the men like when their women put you know panty house on their face or you know when they put panty house on their face and they do pending house encasement together and I mean I was enjoying it so I wanted to take it to the next step and see it. Okay, you know, let's explore this a little bit more. Let's see let's see what fun we can have with this. Yeah. And that was fun. I mean, the two of you both
Starting point is 00:56:29 having this being in case at the same time. I mean, for him, he said it was like euphoria. Wasn't that amazing for you too? Yeah. I mean, I can honestly say like some of the best times that we've had together in Panihows have been both of us fully in them and really explore. wearing it together. And he said it even's gotten to the point where now it does that need to be a part of your intimate, you know, experience now always, like you're always wearing together? Pretty much always. You know, there's moments where we don't. But I would say like 95% of the time, yes. Yeah. And do you think you've become just accustomed to that feeling as well, too? Like he, became accustomed to it because he's like, you know, a young guy feeling pantyhoes, realizing he's
Starting point is 00:57:25 attracted to it. So then he just keeps doing it over and over again. You build up, I feel like sometimes a lot of times, you just, you build up, you're wired that way, you know, because you've done it so much. Like, I feel like you've wired yourself into just being turned on that way. And now you need it. Yep. Yeah, it's definitely like part of our like ritual now when we have sex. And if we are doing it Without it, should we be putting some on? Are you satisfied? Are you happy? You know, so yeah, it's definitely part of our sexual moments together.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But let me ask you this, because every hoser wants to know, are you also wearing them out and about on the daily for him as well? Like, is it a part of your everyday dress? I would say five years ago, yes, it was part of my daily routine. recently with my, I've had some work changes where it doesn't allow me to wear them as much as I used to. But when we are going out on like date night or for going like weddings or like special occasions, definitely always in them. And then whenever there's an opportunity to wear pantinghows, I'm definitely always in them. Yeah. So I wonder like what, and maybe like John should answer this.
Starting point is 00:58:37 What would be the advice on, you know, for other couples? Like how do they get their girl to be like you? Like I don't even know if who's the right one to answer that. And maybe you answer from the girl's perspective. I mean, you were literally kind of backed into the corner, right? You really liked this guy. You knew that he had something going on that was missing.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And you're like, I'm going to do whatever it takes to save this relationship, right? And because it was early on, you know, you got into it and did all the investigation. What would you say to a woman if, you know, that maybe has a guy. that wants it to do. I would say, I would say be open-minded. Try it. Also, you know, the way how he's made me feel when I'm in Panty House, like it's definitely, it gets so much attention.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Like, I get, you know, he touches me. You know, I get kisses. Like, he'll rub my feet. The affection that I get in Panty House is definitely what has kept me in Panty House. And in a way, I kind of think maybe I didn't know. about Panyhows before, but maybe it was something that I always was seeking without knowing what it was that I had wanted. So definitely just try it out. I mean, you know, experiments. Yeah, experiment, you know, test different things, you know, see, see what's comfortable.
Starting point is 01:00:00 But I can't say no to something you haven't never tried. Right. And because, listen, would you have ever realized that you'd be the person that would be not only doing it, but really into it? And as far as you've, you know, and being in case. I mean, do you have brands and colors that are your favorites? I mean, definitely into Wolford, probably just because I've been spoiled with that from the beginning. But I would say with colors, especially if I'm going out in public, just like keeping it neutral, you know, like nudes and blacks. Or depending to, I'll do like a pink or purple or white and I'll like kind of try to coordinate you an outfit with it. So it's not super obvious that I'm just walking down the street and like bright purple people.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Anyhouse. Right. Now, do any of your girls know about your situation? What you guys are into? No. You keep it on the DL. Yeah, it's definitely on the DL. And I think, again, too, like, that's just kind of my conservative side is, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:59 keeping that private. Yeah. I've had a couple of friends be a little bit suspicious, but didn't really ask too much about it. And I kind of just was like, oh, it's nothing. Right. Listen, a lot of people don't talk about their sex life, really, anyway. So it's, I feel like probably a lot of your friends are telling you what they're doing in the bedroom as well.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Why do you have to? I was just wondering if you were open about it. Get John back on the phone before we close out. I want to give him a second. Thank you, Roxy. I can't wait for you. You guys are going to send me in pictures, right, for my hos. Yeah, we'll send you some pictures.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Okay, awesome. Okay. Here he is. Yeah. Hey there. So John, listen, now I want you to just like end. We got five minutes left. Like, what would you say?
Starting point is 01:01:44 because you just like I said in the beginning, like you got a fucking game, you know, when it comes down to it. And it's like, what would you say to other people? I mean, to me, it sounds like you were just naturally good at getting all of your girls to wear and do stuff for you. You know, if you were to teach it, like, what would you say to guys? What's your advice?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Just be grateful. Be extra loving. Appreciate it. Show them how much you like it. Mm-hmm. I mean, like you said, I honestly don't think I've had sex with somebody since, you know, since I started having sex, I don't think I've not been able to get someone into Pennyhouse. It's been very easy. And as I've gotten older, I realize how mild this fetish is.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And there's other things that people are into that are so much harder to pitch to a little, right? Yeah, are so much harder to pitch to somebody. Yeah. that just be just be completely open about it and I mean I just think being open I mean it's just always right for me like I've always vocalized what I've wanted but you also though were not willing to not have what you wanted
Starting point is 01:02:56 I mean listen I think a reason why your girl stepped it up is because very early on you were kind of like listen there's something missing here and if it's not going to be here I'm going to fucking leave I mean I suppose Yeah, I guess just with her, like I said, she was probably one of the girls that was the most difficult to get into Pennyhows at first. Yeah, but she said she knew that something was wrong and she wanted to do whatever it was going to take to get you to stay because she really liked you. And I think most girls are wired that way. Like when we meet a guy and all the stars align and we really like them, like we want to keep them.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And I think unfortunately what has happened to a lot of hosers is this. They didn't put it on the table early on. There may be 10 years into their relationship. When you got the girl and she's got you, it's harder to get them to do shit for you. You know, I think it was smart the way you went in with the stockings first because that's more like lingerie. And every girl wants to dress up. It's sexy, fun, just at home, you know. And then progressed into them wearing regular pantos and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:05 But I think that because you were so used to getting what you wanted, the fact that, that when you met your girl who wasn't going to give you what you wanted, you were like ready to leave. You were going to leave. I mean, something was missing, right? Like something was off. You weren't going to just be like, oh, I could keep it under wraps because you weren't used to it.
Starting point is 01:04:23 So I just feel like maybe that's a key part too. If it is your thing, let somebody know early on, you know? And maybe it's a deal breaker because it sounds like it was going to be a deal breaker for you. Absolutely. Like if she didn't start wearing, I probably would have broken up with her. Right. Because it had been so easy for me to get different women into pantyhows. And I mean, there's been multiple times where I've gotten just random girls to come over in their pantyhows, you know, because I had proposed the idea.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah. And then when I couldn't get her into them, that was like, wait a minute. Like, I don't have this issue with anybody else, but I do with her. I'm going to, you know, move on to somebody. Yeah. Because you realize that most girls will entertain it. And what I think is really interesting from your girl's perspective, what Roxy brings to the table is because, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:22 she like a typical girl, she met a guy she liked very early on. She's like, oh, I got to do this to keep him. You know, I'm going to wear them. And she, you know, she's here to say that maybe if more women try it out and do go there, they might wind up realizing that not only, will they get a lot of attention and affection and all that stuff that you say that you give to a woman when she wears for you that she might actually wind up getting turned on by it too because your girl was like oh what can she get out of it and then she figured out that she liked
Starting point is 01:05:53 you wearing because you were doing that for her and then she became wired into it the same way you were yeah i mean it's gotten to the point where i have to fully dress up for her and in a skirt and some heels and that's what she's into. And, you know, and I get to a certain point, too, where I'm like, are you really into this? Or are you just doing this for me? Do you really like me wearing heels and a dress for you? Is that turn you on?
Starting point is 01:06:24 At certain times, like, I get uncomfortable, like, doing it, being like, are you sure you want this? You sure you want me to dress like this? and she seems to really enjoy it and encourages me to put on some heels or a skirt or something sexy for her. Yeah, I think she gets into it. I think she's fucking into it.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I think it's like a little bit of a dom in her. Yeah, you know, and that's what I say too. I'm like, is this something that, like, why are you into this? You know, it's gone to the point where I was like, are you into women and you like the fact that I dress feminine for you? Oh my God, it's so funny.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It's like role reversal. Like it's what guys normally think their girl's going to worry about. You're now the fetish guy is worrying that your girl, like what the fuck is? Why do you like this so much? Yeah. Like, why are you making me wear this? Are you into women? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:07:17 And I mean, we've even talked about, you know, if we were to break up, she says things like it. If I were to ever date anybody else, they could only have sex with them in pantyhose or, you know. Sounds like that. I mean. It just, she's wired that way now because she's been doing it for so long and now she's into it. I mean, I think that that could happen. And I do think there's a little bit of a like a little dominant in her. And she likes, like she said, like she likes to get you to do something for her.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And I could see that that would be hot for somebody if they have a little bit of that in them, you know? Yeah. So that's what you got to top into. Yeah, no. And like, you know, I've definitely had, you know, tons of girls where panty is for me and have fun with me and you know at a certain point I do get bored and just think about other women but with roxy it's like I feel like I mean I can't even explain it it's like uh oh it's exploring yeah she's uh my panty is queen like uh yeah she's everyone's pantyos queen
Starting point is 01:08:26 you know like i go online i mean i tell her like i try to look for videos or some panties porn or like you know masturbate too when she's asleep but i always ultimately end up coming back to the videos that we take of each other and she's the one that turns me on more than any girl online or any girl i've ever been with and i think that's why our relationship has been so successful is because she's so incredibly hot in her panty hose and the fact that she makes me put on a skirt or some heels for her and that's what she's into. And I mean, even when I do put them on, I tend to feel a little uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. Like, I just don't feel attractive or I can't, I can't explain it.
Starting point is 01:09:20 But is it the same thing? Like, because she's so into it, it turns you on because you're, like, doing something for her? Yeah, no, she leads me to that point where I do feel comfortable and she's like, wow, your legs look sexier than mine or you look sexier than me and pantyos or the fact that she likes to see me dressing up for her, putting on some heels or, you know, a dress and that really turns her on. I mean, I feel like that's what's keeping the relationship going. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you guys are, that would keep any hose. Like, Roxy would be well suited for any hoser. If you ever put on another, let me know.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I have thousands of guys. I tell it all the time. I'm like, do you not realize how many other guys would love to do this with you? Like, I feel very fortunate for this. Mm-hmm. You know, like, I could, you know, break up with her. Get another girl into panty-hows, but. It's not going to be like this.
Starting point is 01:10:22 It's not going to be like this. Because she was the hardest one to convert. Yet once, you know, she got into it, she's been the one that has pushed it farther than anybody else. And more than even you would have gone and felt comfortable with. And she, you know, we'll have sex and I'll be wearing for her completely. And she'll ask me, have you ever done this for anybody else? I'm like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I've only done it for you. Yeah. And I mean, she may not believe me, but. No, but that's probably what she digs. you have to send me in picks of you of her and you for my hosers like i have a discord channel now too that you could go on and if you like want to talk to other people it's free for my people who call it to my show but my patreon members have to pay for it but if you could send me some of those picks because you're such a great photographer and stuff of you and roxy that would be awesome
Starting point is 01:11:12 for my patreon uh we're going to have to hear again more from roxy i feel like we got to do something fun with her just for my patreon members this is going to air for all of my for my podcast, you know, for Fetish Fridays. But I feel like we need you guys back on to do something fun for my hosers. Maybe just Roxy alone or you and her because there's so much more that we need to talk about. Oh, absolutely. I think we skipped over quite a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 But let's think of something fun to do exclusively for my Patreon members. And we will talk a little bit more. Sounds great. All right. Awesome. This was great. Your guys will be on Fetish Fridays coming up very soon. So thanks so much, you guys, for both calling in, and we're going to talk again very soon.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Think of something creative. I'm going to think, too, and I'll come back to you guys. Thanks, Roxy. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye, you guys. Bye.
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