Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 629 - Stephen Caught his Wife Cheating and Now he’s in a Stag/Vixen Relationship

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

Stephen Caught his wife cheating and now he’s in a stag/vixen relationship. How did he catch his wife cheating? When did he realize it turned him on? And, how did his wife feel about it when he told her? Tune in for all the details including why his wife was cheating and cheating and how she reacted when he confronted her about it, how he managed to turned his anger into a turn on, the couple they hooked up with before the cheating and what went down, how he felt when he first saw her with another guy, how they met their first bull and how it went, how she felt about it after first experience, their experiences with various bulls that followed, how and why he decided to blind fold her for her first interracial hook up and exactly what went down, how and why he kept it a secret and how she felt when he eventually told her, how he eventually realized he was very into seeing his wife with black guys, how he caught her cheating again after they opened up their marriage and how they worked through it, the first bull she really enjoyed and why that hook up eventually ended, the dps they had all together, how and why they didn’t enjoy swinger house parties, why they both love the reclaiming sex so much, why he doesn’t care that he can’t play with other women, his top tips on getting your wife to be vixen plus a whole lot more. You can find his wife here: https://linktr.ee/hotwife_kay **To see anonymous pics os STEPHEN'S wife plus ee pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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slash strictly anonymous podcast. Today I have on Stephen. Now, Steve, Stephen is in a stag and vixen or stag and a hot wife relationship, marriage. In the beginning, straight off the bat, he does clear up like what a stag is compared to a cuck and, you know, the difference between vixen and hot wife, because those kinds of terms can definitely be confusing. So we start off talking a little bit about that. And then he goes into his story, like how he became a stag. And it's, it was because he caught his wife cheating.

And his wife cheated a lot on him. him, you know, you're going to hear all those stories. But he caught her and he wasn't okay with it. And he definitely wasn't okay with her being with other men for a while. But he definitely trained his brain to be into it because he couldn't stand feeling terrible about her cheating and thinking about her being with other people. And he wanted to get past it because he wanted to stay with her. So the way he got past it was by like making it a turn on for him. And they started to see bulls. And it's not like when she first started to see bulls. And it's not like when she first started to see bulls he was completely into it he still was like had conflicting feelings about it

half in half out he talks about all those first experiences he talks about an experience where she just like wanted to be blindfolded and he wound up getting a black guy without telling her that it was a black guy because he thought she was into black guys that's a whole thing uh but really i think he did it because he's into that whole intracial sacks that was like top of the mountain for him he filmed that he was into it. He told her like a year later what he actually set up. And it's funny because this guy at the end talks about like, you know, how to get your wife to be a hot wife. And his whole thing is like, be honest. But you like, there's like 10 times in this whole story. He's not honest. But anyway, he did tell her that's what he's into. He talks about the, you know, the bulls that they have.

He talks about, you know, the DPs and when he gets involved every now and then. There's no crossing of swords or anything like that with him. He just liked to see his girl with another. guy. He talks about how she feels about it, what she enjoys. She really likes the reclaiming sex. That's the best part of it for her. They eventually get into going to Swinger's house parties. They eventually decided to start an only fan. She's got a lot of videos of her fucking other guys. She's into that. He's caught her cheating. Many times did I tell you that? Like at one point I was like, this is a more story about cheating than Stagg Vixen. But it is kind of interesting. Kind of funny too, because sometimes I got to steer him in the right direction.

But anyway, he gives out her Instagram. The link and her Instagram name will be in the description. He sent me some naughty picks of his girl K, K-A-Y, there on my Patreon. He talks about that at the end. He does give advice. That's how we ended off giving. He does give advice on how to get your wife to become a hot wife. His top three tips, winds up giving more.

But that's super interesting. the end. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Stephen. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good. Thank you for having me. No, thanks for calling in. You're a stag. You're a stag. You got a hot wife named K. I'm assuming that's like a fake name. I know one of the first things he said is you want to like clear up like what the definition of a stag is. And I would love that because I think sometimes like maybe I've called someone a cuck when they're really a stag. Like what is the correct definition of a stag? So a stag in my definition of it would be the alpha male to a, I guess, a hot wife relationship,

which technically then wouldn't make her a hot wife, it would make her a vixen. But because the word hot wife is so generic and widespread and what known, it is easier to use that term. Right. Right. Right. You're right. There is Hot Wife or Vixen, and there's a difference there, like you're saying. Right. And to me and to K, Vickson makes you sound old. I don't know what it is. I don't know what. But Vixen makes you sound old. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. And so she hates that. So she would rather just go with Hot Wife. Now, for a male, I think more than what a female cares, I think a male cares way more about being called a woman. staggar cuck because of the negative connotations to the word cuck which i mean i can totally

respect that i don't go by cuck because i mean there's zero humiliation or degrading or anything involved in that and so and it's still a male-led relationship versus a female-led relationship in which is more of the cuck style so i i believe that if you are still the male in the relationship that's still instigating the entire thing and you're doing it strictly for i would say mainly his pleasure over hers i believe that a stag is as the hot wife as his personal porn star and i believe that a cuck which to me would still be a beta male uh believes that it's it's not really a porn star situation it's more of the bull is better than he is.

To me, it comes down to a lot of self-esteem, I guess. Yeah, listen, I have a whole cock week I just had because I had Raven, who was married to a very true cock. I mean, this guy was pushing her to go with other people. And then she's Because that guy was a total alpha male I described on the show The second guy, no, the guy she fell for

The guy she was like, yeah, one of her bulls But he was a submissive who was married to a cuckweed It's a whole thing But I'm just saying that like I had Then I had a cuck on I aired a cuck episode Just to further explain that real Hardcore Extreme Cuck

Because that is a total other thing But we want to talk about you The Stag Okay because you have a super interesting story You're married to a Vix call her Kay. Like how long were you guys married for before you decided to open up your relationship? And how did you open it up?

We were married for eight years. And we opened it up because I caught her cheating. Ooh, interesting. Tell me. But it wasn't a physical cheat. It was always an emotional cheat. So she wasn't like running around sleeping with other guys. It was she was finding.

an emotional bond and a lot was it was i always noticed that there was a really weird four-year pattern and it was always when my work schedule got really heavy and i was at work a lot and or i was i was taking on a second job to put more money into savings because the kids started getting older and i wanted to make sure that they were taken care of so i was So I felt I needed to work the second job so that they, I get it. But so whenever it was like you weren't like she's obviously super needy. And whenever you were a little bit less there for her, she goes and finds somebody else. Right.

Yeah. How did you catch her? Without, I guess without revealing too much information because if she hears the upset, I don't ever want her to know how I figured this out. But it's her habit. Oh, you're smart. Yes. You always want to be five steps ahead of everyone, especially your enemy. Well, you know, she is your enemy when she's cheating on you.

The only advice I can give anybody in this situation is if the smallest thing changes, listen to your intuition on it. That's it. Right. All right. So the smallest thing changed, you felt like something's fucking up here. And then you found out she was cheating. And you confronted her. And then she did it numerous times after that.

I'm a little bit different when I confront. Yeah. I have all the evidence in front of you so there's no denying. Yeah. Okay. Smart. So I've got all the printed, like, emails and chat room chats. Oh, my God.

I opened up the hard drive on the computer and pulled back everything that was deleted and printed it all out and showed it to her. Wow. What was her face like? Um, I don't know. So long ago. I mean, she was mortified in the situation. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. But you caught her numerous times? Correct. Wow. So, I mean, she, like, you. decided okay I'll stay with you because she knew she she didn't fuck anybody else so you were okay I mean did you start to get turned on by these scenarios somehow because like this leads into her going out and banging other people in front of you right how does that connect so the anxiety

built up too much for me I was focusing on it I was angry all the time I was mad I had to take a negative and turn it into a positive and I caught myself going back and re-end the emails and looking at the pictures of these guys she was talking to and then I guess I was on a porn site one time and saw some cheating wife thing and I was like oh well I'm going to watch this because I'm already upset about this and then the more I started watching it the more it started to like click I was like well this could turn me on this kind of turns me on this does turn me on and I needed to figure out how to take that and really make it into a positive so that I lowered my own stress levels and my own anger of the situation and now made it to where

I'm not worried about it. I'm not upset about it. It's not eating at me every day and I'm not angry at her because I don't want to be angry on her. I love her. So why do you want to live with somebody that you're constantly angry at? Yeah, that's interesting. I ended up mentally reprogramming my thoughts about the situation and turn it into a positive. Right. It's kind of like taking that energy and just switching it. It's kind of reframing, you know? It's like it was. And it was probably the smartest thing I ever did. Yeah. I think so for sure, because you weren't leaving her. No. God, no. Right. You didn't want to leave her. When do you tell her that you're turned on by the, like all of this stuff? It's a funny question. And I think it's a great question, except I don't have

the answer to it. I actually asked her this last night. knowing that I was interviewed today. I tried to like figure out when it actually happened. I remember the first event, but I don't remember how I brought it up to her. Do you remember how she reacted? Well, I know that before that we had had two, three-sums with a chick prior to this. And it was like years prior. One was a drunken event.

The other one was just her best friend. And then I believe I kind of turned it and said, well, hey, you've given me this. Why don't I give you this? And she can't recall exactly how I said it. Right. I believe in knowing my thought process, that's what I did in the situation. So you guys have been a stagging Vickson, stagging hotway for a long time then. Well, I mean, yeah, we had been swingers.

And I mean, I guess we still are, but we don't really anymore, like couples. I mean, you know, you got to give me a little bit of that too. I mean, so you're not this vanilla couple. And you're also swinging at some point. I mean, you can't leave that out of this story. Can you just tell me a little bit about that? Yeah, of course. Our very first, like, couple event,

I accidentally invited two couples over at the same time by accident. What do you mean by accident? I mean, you're like just inviting people over for friends as friends? Well, it was back when eggs list was a thing. Oh, okay. And I thought I was replying to the correct couple that we found attractive that was closer to our age, was young. I accidentally replied to a couple that we weren't interested in.

Then I realized it and it was too late. So I invited both couples over. We played some cards and then we're like, oh, we're tired. But we had texts the younger couple and said, hey, drive around the block and come back. And so both couples left at the same time and the younger couple came back. okay so you so okay so it doesn't matter how you had that conversation with her about this her fucking people because you had already had conversations about having fucking other couples and going on Craigslist yes okay that's relevant this isn't like you know the way you're

telling the story before it's like a vanilla couple the wife cheats and then somehow you bring it up that you want her to fuck other guys and she does but no you guys were not vanilla at all you had an open relationship you had your wife had fucked up other people. We had two females and one couple prior to the bull. Okay, but you called yourself swingers. Just because you fucked one couple, that's what you consider yourself a swinger? I think it was in the, no, we didn't know about those back then. Okay. We didn't learn about that until later on. Okay, but you had been with a couple and you had those threesome. So you guys had, you were open and he was open. You dabbled in other kinds of. Other kinds of. You dabbled. In other kinds.

of things, not just with women. You fucked a couple. Like when you did the couple, was it a full swap? It was a full swap both times that we had done it, yes. Okay, well, at that point, did you look at your wife fucking other guy and be like, oh, that was hot? No. It pissed me off, actually. Oh, interesting. And what about her watching you fuck the girl? She said that she didn't watch. Okay. So at that point, it didn't click for you. That's interesting that, you know, at one point in your life, before the cheating stuff happened, you weren't turned on by it, but then you really did wire yourself to be onto it, because it wasn't there before. Correct.

That's interesting. Don't you think? I'm still trying to sort through it this many years later. Yeah, but this is why I need to be involved in these conversations. And people used to complain that, like, I interrupt people. But thank God I interrupted you and asked more questions, because this is a very interesting aspect to your story that you would have just blown by. But it, so it, because, you know, I think there's always that question.

Like, is that kind of thing inside and then something sparks it up? And you're like, oh, this was what I was into all this time. But like, you're here to say, and this story proves for a fact with you, it really wasn't there at all. You weren't wired that way. But you did wire yourself by looking at that porn and turning that energy, that jealous feeling into a turn on. And then eventually it's like something you fucking.

love, but you didn't love it before. Correct. Yeah, interesting. Okay, thank God I'm here asking the questions. Okay, so, so now you decide to have your first experience. Like, what goes on there? And what are you looking for? And do you have kinds of rules and regulations that you're going to have going in? Oh, God, yeah. We had a book of rules at this point. And it was like, no kissing, got to use a conda. I mean, like, the most unfun sex possible. It had to have been. And so we find this soldier, and he doesn't have a vehicle.

So I go pick him up. He's drunk, has the sex. The very first event, I was dealing with a lot of emotions, a lot of stress about it. I believe Kay was stressed because she thought this was probably a trick. Like she was going to get in trouble for this. In the end, I mean, I still feel like she felt that she was 100% in the wrong doing this. I got what I wanted from the situation. I got to visually watch her.

Well, what exactly went down? They fucked. It wasn't very exciting. Why not? The guy, he ended up not being able to stay. hard. So I was nervous. She was nervous. I think everybody was nervous. If I remember right, it was very quick. It was under 40 minutes or so, maybe 30 minutes even, if that. Let me ask you because you said you had all these rules and regulations going in. Does the Stad get involved?

Are you just watching? Back then, I just watched. Today, I'll get involved. But I was tell her when you're ready and you want me over then just you know ask me to come over wave me over do whatever um say come here kind of thing and she does quite often um but initially in the beginning when you the stag you're just like there you're watching at that time i thoroughly believed that she had fucked somebody else and i wanted to visually see her fuck somebody else i did not care i needed it in my head i already had it said in my head you fuck somebody else no matter how many times you tell me you did not, you did, it does not matter. You want to go there in a weird way.

That's like your biggest fear. It's what's looming. It's what's driving you fucking mad. And so you're like, let's just go there. I want to see it like as if it is. So then I could just like move past it. I totally get that. Like in hindsight, hindsight is 2020.

There are small things that I noticed back when that weren't really a big deal to me then. But then when you find out they're cheating, then. the things start adding up. Like you come home from work and you have matching panty and bra on. That's a little bit more. So you say she was emotionally cheating, but most likely she was physically cheating as well. I mean, I thought that too when you said it. I mean, come on.

Right. I mean, I, whether you admit it or not, that's just how I felt. And in my head, it was set that way. So I had to see it. Yeah. So you saw it. Now, I know it wasn't that great of an experience, but like was there like great reclaiming sex afterwards or anything?

Or like, how did she feel after? afterwards as well. So at that time, we didn't reclaim afterwards because I, one, I didn't know about that. Two, my emotions were too up and aroused at that point. Not at not arousal in a good way. I was just already the anxiety, the anger, like I was still adjusting to what I saw. Wow. You still hadn't fully wired yourself to it's not even pleasure. It wasn't pure pleasure yet. It was like it's still, it was still, there was still like conflicting feelings about it. Okay. So like your wife must be like, what the fuck? Like, I don't know. I would be nervous if I was your wife seeing you feel all this because women have intuition too. I mean, how did she feel about

your confusion about it? Was she concerned? She can't see it because I hide it so well. You can never see if I'm upset, if I'm stressed or anything. It's all an internal thing for me. But for me, it's a problem because if that builds up, I can feel my own blood pressure going up. I can feel the stress there. I might not show it to you. But she doesn't feel it at all? I don't think that she can, I mean, if she feels on the best, she just doesn't bring up. Okay.

So then my question to you is how did she feel, though, after that first experience? Like what did she say like, oh my God, that was great? Let's do it again. Was she like, what that was fucked up? She felt like it was wrong. and I mean, I remember talking to her afterwards, but it was just based, I based the talk straight off of, was it pleasurable? Was it, you know, these kind of things. Not exactly like, how do you feel wrong? Yeah, yeah. Because I didn't ever want her to feel that way. I mean, you're feeding into at this time what I thought was my own sick and twisted mind. Right. And you didn't want to fuck it up. You wanted to continue. You see. So you didn't want to go there. I just didn't feel any worse than she already did.

But you could tell she felt bad about it. She wasn't totally sold. Okay. So how do you start going? Like when does it get exciting? So then we had tried it like two months later. Okay. And this was another one of those.

I'm just grabbing whoever off of Craigslist. Okay. Eventually I learned to not do this. Grab whoever off of Craigslist. because we had like three bad guys in a row. Right. You weren't a good picker, but she didn't want to do like the picking or anything. She just left it up to you.

Correct. Okay. So what happens with that guy, this guy? So he was just, I don't know, we, I felt like he had kind of had like a rat face to him. So she wasn't attractive. He just, it was just, again, another like epic fail to the bowl. Like you're just finding a guy. we just found a guy that just wanted to have sex, not an actual bull,

because I didn't actually know that there was such a thing at this time. Mm-hmm. And moved on to another guy. It was a few months later, it was another, like, your picks did him justice, but then when you showed up in person, it wasn't that great. I know that on some level, there's some sort of twist with somebody in the beginning. Isn't there, like, some huge bomb twist to, like, something, like,

Are you missing that? So that's when I brought in the first black eye. Okay. So how is that a twist? Like you didn't tell her? No, because she, at this point, after a few bad apples, she decided that she just wanted to do this blindfold that it would make her feel more comfortable doing it blindfold. Okay. So all your bull experience in the beginning are terrible.

None of them are good. They don't sound hot to me. Okay. So now she says, I want to do this blindfolded. Like, I don't want to see them. Because you're picking her ugly guys. I mean, you were, like, the worst. She should have just taken control and pick the guys herself.

But you're picking guys with ugly faces. I mean, like, please. So you wind up. She says, I just want to be blindfolded. And you get a guy so I don't have to see him. And so that, so you're like, I'm going to go get a black guy. Is it because you want to see her with, like, a guy with a really big dick? No, it was because some of the guys that she was talking to is black, which

made me believe that that's what she wanted. So you decided to give her what you thought she wanted. Right. Okay, what happened? I offered her the blindfold situation. Now, this is, this was like the very first good experience for me. Thank God we get to something good. I, she's just in a, just a normal robe, like, not like a bathrobe, but, you know, a

negligee robe and a silky robe. Uh-huh. And I blindfold her. I let her know, hey, you know, he's on this way. So we get her blindfolded, you know, kissing on her and getting her worked up a little bit. I'm nervous as all fucking hell because there's about to be a black guy in what happens if she touches his hair or she does this or that. So on top of the blindfold, I'm just, I decide I'm going to, I'm also going to handcuff her, but, you know, sex cuffs. I don't want to get caught in this situation.

It wasn't a thing that was a permission. It was taken advantage. 100%. Right. Because you're like really not being like, I mean, in these kinds of situations, the most important thing is like trust and honesty and transparency. And here you are setting something up that she doesn't know about. Super fucked up.

100% you on that one. Do you think maybe it's a little bit like, you know, your resentment left over from the fact that she lied to you about all that cheating? So you feel like, oh, I should fucking lie to her too. You know what you mean? Oh, yeah. And so I bring him in and he pulls out his dick right in front of her. And I have her down on her knees right in front of him.

And she starts sucking on his cock. And they go at it and I move her to the bed. And then she has sex with him and she gets through this. And I keep this a secret. I keep the video. Well, she knew I was going to video it, but she never asked to see it. and so now this is my first video of beat off material okay so now this is when I really start chemically changing my own brain to this one video happened between them like he fucked her she

blew him like was it hot watching it for you yes I was totally into it I knew this is this is what I was looking for so you like the interracial thing maybe yeah okay I could plain why it turned me on at the moment. I couldn't explain why I was feeling that way, but I knew I liked it because I started losing anxiety and started feeling arousal. And I was like, okay, this feels better. I'm not, I don't feel sick to my stomach anymore.

This is awesome. Afterwards, I started feeling sick to my stomach because if she were going to find out, well, about a year later, I finally opened up and just told her, said, hey, the blindfold thing I had you fuck a black guy

center of the video she was upset about it yeah because you lied to her like you just didn't really tell her the truth yeah it was 100% a trick and at that point we try a couple others in a you know quite a few flakes

if you're going to be in this lifestyle you got to be willing and waiting for the flakes to happen because they're going to happen So we get to the point where there's this gentleman's birthday And he's a black guy And this guy has got a hung He's hung

And so And I filmed this one But she doesn't seem like she's really enjoying it that much It just seems like she's just there And I liked watching him fucker She I just didn't like that She didn't seem like she enjoyed it Yeah

I mean isn't that the whole whole point, watching the compersion and watching her really enjoy herself with somebody else. But, I mean, was she doing it for you? Still 100% doing it for me. Okay. It wasn't until later that year that her work got stressful. She ended up cheating again. Oh, my God.

Oh, yeah. And found out about that one. And during the process of her cheating, we had a bull over at the time. That was the first time I ever. saw her outside of her own thoughts enjoying the sex. It was a black guy, very hung. He actually became our predominant bull, our solo bull, until the beginning of last year. Oh, okay.

So she really liked him. Right. And you liked watching it because that's what you realized you were into. Right. So she really liked this guy. She really enjoyed his time. He ruined it for himself, beginning of last. year that was on him and ended up having to cut him off we have a zero drug and drama

tolerance so well how long did you fuck him how long did she fuck him for how many years three three years three years three years and what happened at the end uh he showed up high and we asked him to leave and you never saw him again at three years one time you kick him to the what was he high on like weed No, no, no, he was way past that. Oh, okay. So you had a zero tolerance. He had never done anything, but that one time it's like, no way, no more.

No, we had them, I mean, over three years. We had them over probably six, seven times. Oh, okay. And every experience was amazing. It was great. She loved it. Did you get involved ever? Yeah.

Okay. There were some DPs that were involved. That one is, I have to watch for really key signs that she's really enjoying herself, really into it, and then I can move in. And I'll touch her asshole with my thumb or something. And if she brushes my hand away, then it's a no. If she doesn't, then it's a go. Right.

And are you, are you always the ass man? Like, I mean, do you have any of the, because I've heard rules, like, you know, the anal is only for the husband, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the animal is only for the husband. Okay. In your guy's relationship, that's the rule.

Now, the no kissing and all that other stuff that you had going in, is that still rules in these situations with you guys? No, it did. So the kissing thing, I wanted to see it. So I told her, go ahead and do it because she had said that she had kissed the guys that she cheated on. So good, I want to see it then. So you're confusing me because you tell me she just emotionally cheated, and now you're telling me she admitted to kissing people.

That's not emotionally cheating. She physically cheated on you too. Is that what you found out later? I mean, I don't know. It wasn't until later that I had found it out. Okay. I mean, are you lying? No, I just ended up doing more digging in the long room

because I don't know how to let shit go. Okay. So you did find out that she cheated on you physically. Right. Just not sex. That one I never found about. Okay. Well, you think she just made out of it?

out with them? That's her claims, yes. Okay, but that's more than just emotional. You said in the beginning, I mean, this is, listen, I'm no different than you, okay? You claim to be some fucking detective. So am I. Okay, I'm wired just like you, but I might just be better because you sound like you're full of shit. You know, my mind's like a computer chip.

If you told me something 20 minutes ago and then you tell me something 20 minutes later that doesn't, and it conflicts what you said 20 minutes ago, my brain's like, what the Fuck. You told me in the beginning. She emotionally only cheated on you. She never did anything physical. Kissing is physical. I still consider kissing emotional. I'm not really, I don't really consider that.

I get that it's a physical thing, but I don't. I mean, it just sounded like it was all online. I thought you said like it's just online. She was just talking to people online. I mean, she physically met up with these people if she kissed them. She's not web camming to make it out. It's not, you know what I mean? she physically met them in person.

It sounded like it was like an online affair just talking. You'll go back and listen, okay? I'm like, I'm a better detective than you are. Okay, but anyway, go on with your story. So you have like, you wind up finding out she cheats on you again. Right. This is around the DP? I don't know where we're going now.

I'm just confused. Yeah, the DP's just kind of happened when they happen. Yeah. So she ended up cheating again. that one I left at that time because I'd already giving you the permission to do what you were already doing so why cheat at that point? Well, because you said she was emotionally cheating because she just, it wasn't just about the sex. Her cheating was when you were not there giving her compliments, talking to her, asking how her day was, giving her attention. You know, she had emotional needs that weren't being met.

So she was cheating for those reasons. You knew that early on. That's what I asked. like, you know, do you still go away on vacation? Because this is the type of bitch that when you're not there, she's super needy emotionally. When you don't give her those needs, you know, she goes and finds them someplace else. But who sits there and thinks about the small details when you're angry? You just find out somebody else is cheating against.

You. You were acting as if you're looking at all the fucking details. You would get the hard drive. You just print shit out. I mean. At the moment, I walked out the door. I find out you're cheating. I'm out.

Well, you didn't, I mean, you said she cheated many times and you didn't want to leave her. But I had already given you the permission to do whatever the heck you wanted to do in the situation. So why go lie and cheat about it? Yeah, okay. You just sounds like a mess. So, okay, so she's like, and it's, yeah, it's crazy. But I'm just saying she's cheating on you because she has this emotional thing. At that time, were you still like leaving her to go work double shifts and shit like that?

I mean, my work took me traveling a lot, yeah. Right. So she cheats on you, you leave. How do you get back with her? Because I know you're with her now. Oh, yeah. We ended up, I was gone for a couple of days, and we ended up at a coffee shop sitting down and talking about it all

and hashing it all out. And what's her reason? Like, what does she say when you're like, what the fuck? Like, you're allowed to fuck whoever you want. I've been bringing you guys, you know, having sacks. go back, goes right back to the emotional. Right. It's all emotional.

And at that point, then I, I'm like, okay, well, then I need to step up the emotional game on it. Takes you this long to figure it out. How many times does she have to cheat on you and tell you the reason for you to fucking get it? Yeah, well, I'm also not like a, uh... Guys are so dumb sometimes. I'm not a cuddle bug either. Well, you know, she's told you a million times by cheating. on you in other words.

So, you know, listen, I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm just saying it doesn't sound like, even the way you communicate with me is a little confusing. So, you know, maybe she's confused and then she's cheating. I mean, there doesn't sound like there's a good communication going on here because it keeps happening, you know. And listen, she's not right. You're not wrong.

But like, so you leave and you decide to go back? Yes. Okay. I mean, two kids. I just didn't feel the need to walk out on them. Yeah. And I. Okay.

Trust me. I, I've heard it a billion times. You know, it's, it's unhealthy to stay for the kids. Well, sometimes it's worth it. They're good kids. I'm assuming you're staying for yourself, too. It doesn't, like, you're calling in to talk not about cheating, supposedly about a stag vixen relationship.

It sounds more like a cheating story. But, like, you're obviously stagging vixen now still. I mean, I think you're staying for you because you got this girl that'll go fuck other people and that's your kink now and you like to watch it. I mean, is it really for the kids or is it for you or so for both? It's probably for both. At that time, it was for the kids. And now since then, since that last cheating that we've explained, there hasn't been any sense. Okay.

How long ago was that? 2018. Okay. So a couple years. You did say she has a pattern. of every four years. I have a very good memory. So she, we're on year five right now. Okay. So you're good to go.

Okay. So now what kind of like Stag Vixen situations have you been in recently? Any good ones? I mean, you know, you had a couple, but like, you know, we're some hot stories. We did still play during COVID with people that were close. But then this last year, we decided that we were going to start going to swing our house parties instead. Okay, and what happened there? Not a damn thing. Other than her getting upset when some games happened and girls came over and I guess it was, we weren't clear on the rules to each other that we had made.

And then I decided coming into this year that we were going to back off of the whole swinger house or swinger parties and clubs and just go back to the, stagging vixen lifestyle instead yeah okay so what are some of your experiences since we took a trip to up north here a couple hours and got a hotel room a couple weekends ago and had a nice bull join us at a very nice hotel the only downfall to him is that he was just late as all get out other than that He performed really well. She enjoyed herself quite well. He was hung as all get out. And we found him off of Reddit.

Do you ever hook up with the guys yourself? Do I? No. Yeah. Any cleanup going on? No. Okay. Not at all.

No crossing swords? No. Okay. You'll get involved in a DP. That's as close as you get. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

It's a DP thing. Right. But you do, and you're still getting involved. like with that bull on your vacation like were you getting involved like is she doing all kinds of things that the both of you? Oh yeah 100%

you know whether she was sucking my dick and he was fucking her or vice versa the reclaiming sex had become a thing a couple of years ago and she still says that's her favorite part of it just because I'm harder

I'm thicker I fuck harder afterwards and for me, I guess it's just a, like, remind her, you know, like, you can have fun, but you're still mine and this is still yours and nobody's going to fuck you the way I fuck you. Mm-hmm. She likes that. She does like that a lot. And if I had to judge it from an outside perspective, I think maybe that's one of the only things she looks forward.

to in the lifestyle for us is the reclaim because she will not allow me to go to bed unless it happens. Do you think she's in your, so you're saying you don't think she enjoys the actual sex with the bulls? No, I think she enjoys it to a point, but I think her favorite part of it all is the reclaim. That's what she looks forward to. That's what she's waiting on. afterwards.

Right. It's just where her personality, her demeanor is, and where she looks most excited is at that aspect, that point. And if that's her reasoning to be a hot wife or a vixen, then I will honor that and keep rolling with that because I have my own reason. If that's what you enjoy, then cool. I'll make sure that you enjoy that then.

Now, are you still picking the bowls or does she get involved? I mean, is she still like not happy with the guys or she's happy with him? So it has changed. Now it's kind of a I find potentials and then she gets to sort through the potentials and say yeah or nay on them. Right. And now is it always black eyes since that's your kink or is it just whatever? It's just whatever. Okay.

Lately we've been at the gym a lot. So I always tell her, you know, if you see something you like, let me know. right and she's cool with that does she ever tell you something that she likes or bring a guy never told me yet no she hasn't told me that she's found anybody yet right now do you uh because you had the those you know you went to swingers house party and stuff like and she got jealous about the girls like is it is there some sort of rule with you guys where you know this is just about her hooking up with guys and there's no girls for you and are you okay with that I don't really have a desire for the women.

Like, it's not that I don't want women, but I just don't have desire to bring another woman into the bedroom. It's not my thing. Right. Now, she's been with women because you guys have had some threesomes, correct? Is she down with girls? Like, would she love a threesome with you with another girl? More of that? She considers herself a pillow princess.

She's not, she's fine with touching boobs and kissing and making out and. and she won't go down on a woman. But she's not looking for that is what I'm saying. No, she's not looking. Right. She likes the variety of the guys. I mean, is she into, like, it's like hard to get a read on it. Like, is she really into being a hot wife?

I know she likes the reclaiming. I mean, is she having fun doing all of this with you? I think she enjoys the attention. Yeah, obviously she, she, like I said, she's pretty needy all the time she's cheated on you. That she, you know, maybe she doesn't need all that attention. I mean, we started her, an Instagram for her. And, you know, she ended up with an only fans and a fansly. And I think she just enjoys the attention aspect of it.

Right. And so she's into that. She does she take like part in that? Like what's on your only fans and her fansley and all that? So only fans is just her like nude modeling. Mm-hmm. So like all boudoir or nude shoots. and then Fansley is

things with bulls that sign off on the waiver that they require So her fucking other guys Right Right And do a lot of guys like sign off on that? So they do

And there's like a 20 minute video out there That is for God awful amount of money But yet it's the number one bought video Really how much? 50 bucks and why so much what do you see like what what justifies the $50 it doesn't like I mean

it's a well put together video you're a terrible storyteller you're a terrible salesperson you're just like it's not worth 50 bucks but you sell it for 50 bucks you want me edit that out I mean I personally wouldn't pay 50 bucks to watch

people fuck but that's just me but people do they do buy it so is that the only video of her fucking anyone else. That's like, so they have to, if they really want to see that, they got to pay top dollar. There are 300 and something videos up on there. Really? But so, you know what? I mean, that's interesting. I think that that's like a really good tactic and I don't even think you realize what you're doing there. But what I think why people pay is because they're like, wow, look at all these videos are so cheap. This one is $50. It must be

good. Like they're, you know, and then they probably go and it's the same shit and they're like feel ripped off. But somehow maybe that's why, because you're saying it's no different than Anything else? I mean, it's the same reason that we split up the content between OnlyFans and Fansley. What's the reason? I mean, you get subscribers on OnlyFans, but they're looking for that kind of content, and you send them right over to where that kind of content is. Now you've got double subscribers, and they stick around for all the photo shoots that come in on a daily basis.

Right. Okay, but what I'm saying is that you have all these cheap videos, and then just one of them you decided to put it at 50 bucks and there's no different with that one? There's no difference there? Other than it's 20 minutes long and it's... Okay, so it's longer. The other ones are how long are the other ones? Like a minute or two? Oh, that's why they're paying because they want 20.

They want a longer spank bank. It's too fast one minute. Your sense like, really, you do... Okay, so it's not for any other reason. Then they're paying 100% because it's 20 minutes long and your other. ones are all one minute long so they're willing to spend 50 bucks for 20 minutes like buying a porno that's like a longer thing that makes sense yeah i mean it's all close well the funniest thing is that like i mean like do we bring up now while i'm trashing you it's funny i mean you're cool right

like you could add to the hang right i mean like that you have a podcast and here i am trashing you about a bad storyteller you are a bad salesperson then you started a podcast you're that you actually told me before that you're actually going to redo and stuff. So, I mean, but like what is the name of your podcast? And what do people, like, could people find it still? As far as I know, people can still find it. As far as it getting updated from the day forward, it's not going to. Okay.

So there's episodes up, though, there. And it's what is it about your and your wife's experiences? Correct. And how to help your wife. become a hot wife or a lot of experiences or your expectations of a bull, what happens when you deal with failure at finding a bowl, there's just kind of just a one-on-a-one. Let me ask you this. So what would you say to a guy, because there's going to be a lot of guys listening that would love to get their wife to do what you got your wife to do? Like what would you say is the way

to do it? Like what's your top tips, top three things? And you got to, one you got to be honest 100% you weren't fucking honest a million times you'd lie to her about your ball you got to have a backbone turn around and tell her that this is what you want for one oh okay you gotta be honest about your desire

right okay two you really got to make it about her and not about you you got to tell her why she's gonna benefit from the situation and you got to be honest about that and so what was the what was it about like but was that the honest reason

like was it about her was it about you It sounds like you were like really just wanting her to get your fucking like you called it like a sick kink. Like you're, it wasn't about what you were doing for her or were you doing it for you? No, I was doing it for me. But if you're trying to talk your wife into doing it. Right. So what you're saying is so double-sided. You're saying be honest, but then lie to her and tell her that you're doing it for her.

No, I didn't say tell her you're doing it for her. You need to tell her why she's benefiting from it. Right, because it's going to be good for you. Listen, a lot of hot wives, what they like is they like seeing their guy turned on, right? I think after the fact, yes. Okay. I don't think that's an initial feeling in the very beginning. Okay, so why don't you state those over again?

So tell me your three top three tips of how to get a girl to become a hot wife. I think you need to be 100% honest about your desires. Yeah. To stop. you need to have a backbone about it. I think you need to explain the benefits, her benefits, and then your benefits of the situation. And I also believe you need to tell her that there are going to be no repercussions. And you need to assure her that this is okay and this is what you want.

Yeah, for sure. Because I think always a woman's thing is going to be like, I can't do this. Yeah. Because it looks like a person of it. Because it looks like a trap. It smells like a trap. It sounds like a trap. And it sounds like a divorce in the end.

Right. 100%. You can go fuck this guy and I want you to. Right. But it's not a trap. That's what you're here to say for sure. But also, I think they need to be prepared. If she gets suspicious, I think anybody who says, I want you to go fuck this other person is going to get suspicious that you are also out doing something that you're not supposed to.

do. So be prepared to prove that you're not. Right. For sure. So you got to really be really clear. And I think that I think what you need to add to that is that might take time. Don't expect for your girl to accept all of that and come to the conclusion that all of those things are true, that it's on a trap and that this isn't going to, in one conversation. It could take her six months that she really fucking buys into it. Not an everyday conversation either because they're eventually going to get angry that you're bringing it up every day. Right.

You don't want to push it too hard. At the right moments. Yeah. You know, don't do it while you guys are in the middle of a fight. That doesn't work. You know, I would say this is bedroom talk. This is pillow talk. This is starting with a fantasy game.

Maybe write down a list of fantasies, just all bunch of different ones. and then see how many of those she'd be willing to do. And eventually, if she circles the one that says, you know, a three-some with another guy, your foot is in the door. If she never says number two, you know, is a male, male-female or male-female situation. And she never circles that. And you really want it. Then maybe you should circle that as one and let her see the ones you pick.

Right. But you don't really remember how you got your girl into it. but I mean these do sound like good tips. But do you feel like, why don't you do me a favor? You're going to send me some hot picks for my Patreon, right? Anonymous picks. I will, why don't you give out your only fans and stuff?

And then what I also have now is I have this great Discord channel that's only for my Patreon members to join and like guests are going on there and putting more X-rated stuff. And like I tell my guess, like it's going to be free for you to go on there. You're going to get in for free. you could promote your only fans and put more racy stuff over there, right? So I will give you that free Discord invite just for you to go in there and do that. But for my Patreon members, you just give me like some like sexy picks that are R rated.

Sure. Okay. But then you could go promote her only fans and all that stuff. That's what people do over on Discord. Even people without only fans are just promoting like just hot picks, whatever. You do more X-rated stuff over there. Why don't you give out your only fans too right now and your fans? Leslie and all that stuff.

Okay. Well, I can give out her Instagram, and if they choose to click the link there, then I feel that they're making. Her Instagram is T-X, Hot W-W-W-E-K, that's H-O-T, W-I-F-E-K, that's K-A-Y, all one word, so T-X, Hot-Wife K. T-E, like Tommy and X, T-K, okay, so like Texas, short, T-X. Yes. Texas. So TX, Hot Wife, K, K-A-Y.

Right. And then the link there is a link to everything else. Right. And if they want to see more, they're welcome to click that link. I don't put you down to anybody's throat. But if they just want to enjoy the pictures that she has up there and chat with her and say hello and whatnot, they're welcome to do that too. Right.

But if they want to go and see more stuff, they'll really see your wife with her bulls. I mean, like that stuff is there. Correct. It's on. Yes. And you have a lot of videos. Like, what do you say? Like, 300?

Yeah, it's over 300. Wow. I mean, you, how many guys that she fucked? You barely told me any stories. Like, what is, she's been with a lot of bulls that you have that many? Or is it like, you did a lot of videos with, like, that one guy, that, that bull that was with you for a long time? Some of them are a lot of the same guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. Does she get into watching the videos, do you think, or no? Or being taped? She does have a few of them saved on her phone, yes. Right, right. So she likes it. But do you think she's a little bit of an exhibitionist and that she likes all these guys consuming her content over on these,

you know, on her fans and stuff? I think secretly she is. I don't think she'll ever openly admit it. Right. Interesting. You know, listen, you guys have been through a lot. You've weathered through a lot. You've done a lot.

yet, you know, you'd think that she'd be able to cop to that, you know, but I think that there's still some things that you both keep to yourself. I think she still has her reservations. After all this time? I think so. I think she's still, she is who she is, you know, she was raised a very certain way and I get it. But she has, but, I mean,

is she into having the only fans and all that stuff like, or do you do all that, or does she work on all? that? Like is it? No, she works on that. Okay. I just shoot all the photography for her. Okay. So it's not like she's an unwilling participant. No, she's 100% into that. Okay. She loves that. She does. Okay. Yeah. So she's getting something out of it. She might be a little bit of an exhibitionist and that she likes guys watching her doing all these things, right? And she enjoys creating new exciting content, which is fun. Uh-huh. So. And you're going to revamp your, you're going to revamp your podcast, so we're not going to promote the old one.

Or what is the old one's name? Did you ever say? It's the stag of Hot White's Day. Yeah, and it's only on Spotify. Don't ask the question why, because I did. But just you could only find a fucking Spotify. But I believe the new one is a stag talk. And that'll be, actually, I got to record probably sometime this week.

Stag talk is going to be his new podcast. episodes. Okay, listen, I'm assuming you do better on your podcast than you did our mind telling your fucking story. There's a lot going on here. Like I said, this is supposed to be a stag and Vixen story, but there's a lot of cheating stuff on this too. I would love to talk to your wife. I wonder what she's going to think of this episode when she hears, because it's only like your side of things. I really wish your wife was on, you know. But anyway, thank you so much. What did we call you, Steve, Stephen? Stephen? Listen, thank you so much for calling in. I will include a link to, I'll give her

her Instagram account information. You're going to send me picks for my Patreon and I'm going to give you the link to the Discord when her episode is up and you could go post over there more stuff to get people to sign up for her only fans. I know you don't like to shove anything down people's throat, but you know, if you have an only fan, you should promote it. You know, Okay. Yes. Okay. Good.

Take all my tips. I will. Thank you. All right, Stephen. Thanks so much for calling in. Your episode will be up soon. All right. All right.

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