Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 631 - Jay is a Former Black Bull with a Hotwife

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

Jay is a former bull who now has a hotwife and he called in to talk all about it. What did he enjoy most about being a bull? Why was he so good at it? And, what does he enjoy now as the Stag? Tune in ...for all the details including how important it is to communicate with the husband when you are a bull, the questions you should ask ad why, what he specifically tells his bulls to do and exactly what his hotwife enjoys the most, how ad why sometimes does get jealous seeing her with other guys but how it’s also a huge turn on, how and why as a black bull he only saw white couples, how the bbc is a big part of the equation, how and why his first wife wasn’t into being in the lifestyle and why his being a bull ruined ether marriage, how he makes his hotwife feel sexy and happy, the many different ways they do solo play and how he stays connected regardless, how he loves being the clean up guy, how his hotwife loves guy on guy action and how he feels about that, how far he’s gone with guys and how much he enjoyed it, how ad why anal play is still so stigmatized for men of color and why, how he felt when he saw his wife with a guy who was bigger than him plus a whole lot more. You can find his hotwife here: https://onlyfans.com/sheilaexposure **To see anonymous pics of JAY and my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:17 it's like a community of people going on. People get to post stuff themselves. There's a lot of X-rated stuff. going there. I don't get involved on Discord, but it's super fun, and you get access to that as well. It's all $5 a month. You can cancel at any time. Just go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. It's Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The link to everything, the numbers, the emails, all the shit I just told you is all in the description. Now today I have on Jay. Jay was a bull. He's now a stag. He's married to a hot wife. His girl was just on, hot wife Sheila. This is Jay. He was on before he giving his whole backstory because he was married before.
Starting point is 00:03:01 He was in a lifestyle. His marriage broke up because he was a bull. There was some cheating that went on. If you want to hear all that drama and all that stuff, you could listen to his first episode. It's episode 560. His girl, Sheila, who's the real deal. She's a hot wife.
Starting point is 00:03:17 She's only into black guys. Jay is a BBC bull. she's a super hot, hot wife. Her episode was 613. But anyway, he came back on to talk all about how to be a great bull. He was a very popular, successful bull when he was a bull. And now he's a stag and he is loving being a stag. He talks about how to be a stag, how to get your girl into being a hot wife,
Starting point is 00:03:45 how to be a good bull. He talks all about all the naughty thing, him and his hot wife. Sheila, do with their... bulls. She's really into Guy and Guy Action. He talks about that. He talks about how far he's went when it comes to Guy and Guy Action. He's hooked up with guys and he talks about that. He
Starting point is 00:04:03 gives definite tips on how to be a good bull. He knows how to roll. Like I said, I say it in the beginning with him. He's definitely got game when it comes to women. He talks about the game he has and why he was in such popular demand as a bull and what he enjoys about
Starting point is 00:04:19 being a stag. His girl is not interested in giving him any kind of hall pass to be with women. She's the only one that plays around in their relationship. He's fine with that now. We do talk about how he would feel about that in the future. And he has a really interesting creative idea about what to do about that in the future if things don't change.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So make sure to listen to the end to hear that. But anyway, this episode is great. He's very specific about what's going down. There's a lot of dirty details. You're going to love hearing his story. We do also talk about like the whole racial thing because, why do white couples love black bulls and he talks all about that we talk about that too it's super interesting uh you're gonna love this episode he did send me in picks of him too because now on my
Starting point is 00:05:07 patreon i'm getting picks of guys i was like send me a pick of yourself an r rated pick if you want to see an r rated pick of j and put a body to his episode because he does talk about how in shape he is and all that kind of good stuff go to my patreon um but anyway i'm going to be right back on with Jay. Hi, Jay. Welcome back to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I am doing awesome. It's a beautiful day in my state.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So I hope it's a beautiful day in your state. Yes, it actually is. It happens to be a beautiful day. We don't have many of them anymore in NYC. It's more like London. Like every fucking day, it's like gray and miserable and cold. It's so bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I don't know. So you are from New York, right? Yes, I'm from the, yeah, NYC. Manhattan. I live in Manhattan. Yeah, so am I. From Lower East Side, Manhattan. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Down by the last street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was born in Jersey City and raised between Jersey City and Lower East Side. Yeah, there you go. So you went from Jersey City to Lower East Side, and then did you move when you were older? Like, did you grow up in New York as a kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically what happened, I left when I joined the Army.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Oh, wow. So you really were raised here because I'm raising my son in New York, and I love it. I think it's such a great place to raise it. a child in a city where most people feel the opposite. They're like horrified and most people told me, oh, when you have your son, you're going to want to move the fuck out. But I don't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So I differ on that and to bring it back to my story. Yeah. I think being raised in a place like New York kind of left me very open-minded to a lot of different experiences. Of course. Yeah, I'm not going to go and pitch it to anybody else. I don't give a fuck what people think. I love the fact that my son is being raised in New York.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I see the value in it. But let's get to your story. I mean, you are open-minded, and you have a very full view of, like, bulls and stags and hot wives. You were on before you called in last year. If people want to hear your full backstory, they're going to hear some of your stories here. But if they want to hear your full backstory, it is number five, six, six, Jay was a BBC bull and now he's a BBC stag. Now I wanted to do an episode of like, you know, how to be a bull, how to be a stag.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I wanted to do those kinds of episodes, how to talk your wife into being a hot wife. And it turns out that you could talk on all those things because you started out as a bull. You were doing it with one of your first wife. You guys were swinging. Then you started doing that. And then you did it solo. and then you got a new girl and then you turned her into hot wife and now you're fucking staggot.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I'm like, who's better to come on and do the how to do everything than Jay? And the one thing I remember about your first episode and people should go listen to it if they have it already is that you had a style that stood out. Now, I think it's just your nature. You know how to fucking please a woman. You got game, people would say, right? I don't think everybody has fucking game, you know? but they can learn from somebody that does.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Like it comes naturally to you, but you could teach people how to be that great bull because you were in high demand because you had this way. Like I said, you had game. You have a definite idea of how to treat a woman and the women fucking like it, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I believe so.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think it comes down to having the ability to like check your ego. go. That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing. And realizing your role in the play of being with a couple, you know, most people are like, okay, I'm going to be a bull. That means I get to have some new piece of pussy, right? Yeah. And that's what they focus on. They focus on being with this hot woman, which is cool because you are now able to, when you're a bull, and this is the beautiful part about being a bull. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You get to have great, amazing sex. with a hungry, horny woman who you don't have to whine and dine, right? Like, I don't have to take you out to attend date. I don't have to, like, you know, charm you up and down and send you texting good morning, queen and all those things. Like, all I have to do is be a gentleman, be respectful, listen to your rules, maybe some sex things, you know, to prep things. And then from there, I show up and have a good time.
Starting point is 00:09:49 and then I get to go home and live my regular life. But what about the game with the husband? I mean, is there a game that you got to play with that too? I mean, you know, because you're now, you are also now the stag too. So you could, this is why you really are the professional to talk to about all of this. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So, you know, dealing with the husband, I think is also another art, right? Yeah. Because you really have to get into what the husband is looking for. And a lot of time you realize the woman, actually don't talk a lot. They don't really tell you a lot. It's usually coming from the husband, right?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh, really? Right, because they don't want to get too connected to the ball and make the husband feel uncomfortable. Right. I'm not saying always. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Right. So a lot of times when I'm chatting, I'm usually chatting with the husband. There are a few times I've chatted with the wife, and there are also a few times I've chatted with both. but most times I'm just chatting with the husband and the beautiful thing about it is now I get to, he's going to give it to me real
Starting point is 00:10:57 I just have to be receptive and ask the right questions I mean let's start with the simple you know what are you guys into like what do you really want like like you know and this goes back to dating the issue with dating is that
Starting point is 00:11:14 you would date a woman and like and you say okay, what you're looking for? She's like, oh, I want a guy that's honest. I want a guy that's nice. I want a guy that's caring. I'm like, duh, that's no detail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Who wants a guy that's not honest? Who wants a guy that is not caring? Like, you gave me really nothing. You gave me an unfortunately, even in a lifestyle, it's also like that. Really? Ask the woman, hey, what you're looking for? You know, I just want to have a good time. I want to make sure my husband is happy.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And, you know, and I just, you know, it's, very basic in general. Right. So I will go to the husband. I'd be like, okay, what do you like? And he would give me basic and general ideas. I know, okay, I'm not going to go and shoot him some ideas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Are y'all into anal? Like, are you all you into wordplay? You know, can I call her a flight? Can I say, this is my pussy and I'm your daddy, you know, can I expect? I would have to give a lot of specific. to see where the boundaries are. Interesting. And let me ask you this as a stag
Starting point is 00:12:22 because you're currently a stag and you have hot wife Sheila as your girl. We'll put a link to her only fans because she's the real fucking deal. There's a lot of people that got these only fans nowadays that are just pipping themselves out because they want to make a buck, but they're like phony fucking assholes.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But your girl's the real deal. You're the stag. When a guy asks you, when your new bulls ask you what you like to be done to your wife, what are the specific? that you give them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So let's just start with most of the bulls don't even fucking ask that question. Right. Yeah. And it's the reason why we haven't played as much as we want to. Really? And the reason why, like, at times it's like a pain in the ass.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And it really kind of highlights how good I was as a bull. Yeah. Because, yeah, because most of the guys are like, we have to ask them. Like, why are we chasing you down? For information, you bought to get, listen, my wife, Sheila, is fucking stacked. Right. She's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:13:26 She has nice legs, good skin, beautiful smile, nice ass. I'm a brother. You know I love a good ass. Like, you should be chasing us down. Right. You're going to fuck my wife. Yeah. And she knows how to fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And she likes a nice, good, big, hard black cock. And, you know, we got video to prove. you know check out all the time right yeah so so uh i should have to be asking you question you should be hitting me up and you know and it's charming us down but but that's the whole point of what you would do you would go in and specifically get all that information because you would want to come in and do like the best fucking job right as the bull and that's how you should go in to things unfortunately most people just don't roll that way you know but you're this is why people need to learn these things.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, and understanding that you're dealing with a very affluent couple, like myself, I got two master's degrees. Yeah. My, you know, my wife, she has a master's degree in nursing too, right? So when you're talking to us,
Starting point is 00:14:35 you can't just be like, yo, yo, what's up? You know, you got to have a good, you got to be able to articulate yourself to really explore our minds because we are both educated people. So just coming with a big dick and say here, let's fuck, it's very boring us. I already got a big dick.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You know, and like, we don't need, your big dick is going to actually really need it. It's an additive and it's fun. Okay. So if you don't explode the mind that it's really fucking boring. Yeah. She's not going to have a good time. Yeah. So if the right bull, a guy like you came to you and said, okay, listen, Jay, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:15:14 Get a little specific. Like, what does Sheila or what kind of scenario? do you guys love to create? Yeah. So for my wife, right, and I do this, right? I actually do talk to the guys and I tell her, I think, okay, a couple of things, just to start with she loves to be touched. Not like, I mean, don't give me wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:34 She loves her ass grab and all those things, but she loves to be touched. She likes that light touches. She likes for you to take your fingers and just caress down her body nice and like, it doesn't have to be like a hard massage and not acting for like a deep tissue massage. although she will love that later on. But she loves that light touch going down her leg. She likes to be touching places that most people don't touch, like the ankle, behind the knee, the back of the thighs, coming up to the back,
Starting point is 00:16:04 or even to like weird places she likes, like the armpits and the inside the elbows. And she definitely likes to be licked of her neck, already up to her ear. Like that just sets her body on fire, right? You do that and shot Pussy is going to be nice and wet. Like, those are things that like when a confident man knows how to touch a woman and how to
Starting point is 00:16:27 start small and get into the engagement and then go deeper. And like, it's like, okay, this guy knows what he's doing. Yeah. And that's a foreplay that women love and need a lot of the times. Not just like put it, just show up and just fucking put it in. Yeah. Which
Starting point is 00:16:43 definitely won't work. No. One thing you realize that's like vaginas are not all the same right so like some girls are like hey you show up you're like okay stick it in fuck me most women ain't like that right that's that's actually a race bulls need to understand it yes it's actually super rare to find a girl who just wants to get pounded okay girls the vagina it needs to be warmed up and needs to be warmed up with touches and kisses and like even actually before you even touch don't even go there yet exactly No, no, don't say that for the last, man.
Starting point is 00:17:20 We all know what we're going to get to. But let's enjoy the journey, brother. Like, just take your time with it. Like, it's going to be so much better. It's going to be so much weather. It's going to be so much more open. She's going to be so much more engaged than when you just take your time and just enjoy every touch.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I love a woman's body. And we have had some good experiences and some bad experiences, right? So we have had it Whereas You know We had a guy who's like Who knows a little bit about a touching I mean honestly
Starting point is 00:17:53 I prep these guys Fucking big too Like I give so much detail You're probably tired of the text as I get Because my girl My wife She needs a lot of things To really have a good time
Starting point is 00:18:07 So I make sure That you know And if you don't like me Send your messages And give you tips But then we're not a couple of four. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Because I know this. I know that with her, she's a little bit different. In other words, most guys wouldn't know. You're not going to know within 20 minutes of talking, like, what she really like. And sometimes you'll find a women tend to, like, accept it because they don't want to hurt your ego. Yeah. Or they don't want to kill the mood. They don't want to say, hey, no, no, no, not too much.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Or don't do that. Or I'm not right. They don't want to do that. So I prep these guys big time. And, you know, and sometimes I get a little jealous. because when I fought the first start dating my wife, I had to fucking, I took a minute to learn her body. Like, I had to be giving away the secrets for free.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I'm like, I'll be sitting back thinking like, he didn't earn that, man. Like, he didn't earn that orgasm. Like, that was like, but I realized a couple of things. Once again, it's not about me. You know, every so often, my ego does kick in. I think that's natural. But as long as my wife is having a good time.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And once again, if you see some of the videos, that we have posted on our only fan page, you can see it at her face. That's one thing I love about her, right, is the faces that she makes when she's really having a good time and watching, like, another man. It's kind of weird for me to say this,
Starting point is 00:19:26 but now that I've turned over into the sad part of the world, like, I have enjoyed it, but to watch, like, another man inside of her, like, it's, you know, I don't know too much information, but, like, it's gorging cock inside of her, like, and she's wrapped around them, man, how face that she made. It just sends me wild, man.
Starting point is 00:19:46 You've got to see you to believe it. And listen, your girl was on. They could get her whole fucking back story, 613, and I will put a link to her only fan so they could see her face over there. But go on. So she is only into black eyes. She's a white girl.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I mean, I know that we touched a little bit upon the whole black bull and why white couples want a black guy to come in and fuck their wives. I mean, like, what is that whole thing about? because a lot of people talk about this. It's a lot of people's fantasies. What are you, and I'm assuming when you were that bull,
Starting point is 00:20:19 you were mainly seeing white couples. Is that how you were rolling? Yeah, it was, it was only white couples, right? So, you know, it's a lot of ways you can look at it, you know. You can look at it from a very negative standpoint. Exactly. And you can look at it from a very positive standpoint. You know, I mean, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Let's be real here. Yeah. So from a negative standpoint, you're like, okay, you've got to be a very good. a bunch of white couples that just want to use black men, you know, as sex objects, right? Right, that's shy them. Right, right. And you know what? And you can look out of it like that, but honestly, man, there's so many kinks. And they know,
Starting point is 00:20:56 there's so many things out there. Why put these negative labels, let people live their life. That's what they want to do. And they find enjoyment. In fact, what happens is a lot of times you find couples who's looking for just something different. Yeah. They don't want someone to look just like their husband. Exactly. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:14 to be with their husband, right? So to go from, and this is just generalizing and not always, but just generalizing, going from your white husband who typically may have a small tour advertised penis to go to a
Starting point is 00:21:28 big deal. I mean, let's be real. Be real. Yeah. Right, right. And hey, shit, sometimes they're advertised penis and get the job done, right?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah. But to go from that to a strong, athletic-built black guy with a big cock. It's like, oh, this is different. You know, this is going to be a wild night. You know, and that's what you're looking for. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It could just come down to size. Why do you think, though, that black guys, is there a reason why black guys have bigger dicks than white guys? Like, what? Do we know? Evolution. I don't know. I don't know if it has something to deal with our darkest skin being
Starting point is 00:22:11 raised coming from places like Africa and, you know, I'm going to go to Google it. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me your weird-ass theory. Yeah. Right. I always thought about this is because white people typically come from up north, right? This is where they're descendants from Europe and those places tend to be a little bit colder.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. Right. And you know what happens to a body to a man when he gets cold. He jumps to cold water. What happens to see him to shrunkage? Yeah, shrinkage. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So I think, and this is just why it has no scientific backing. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I know where you're going. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like because y'all live in such cold environment and that you had like a constant shrinkage. And that's happening from father to son, the father of son and father of the son, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Over millions of years, you know, right. And you guys never had any shrinkage because it was like boiling hot all the time. So there was never one day of shrinkage. All those years, it just kept getting bigger and bigger and thicker and thicker. Oh, my God. I mean, it is a true thing because sometimes people will be like, oh, you know, it's like, it's not even nice to say like, oh, you know, a big black cock BBC. But black guys do have bigger dicks than white guys.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Listen, there's guys out there. There's white guys out there that have really big dicks. I've seen them, you know? For sure. It's not as common. That's the difference. It's true. Like I've been in a situation where.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I was in a room with nothing but naked people, right? Like, you know, like, I went to a lifestyle resort, desire, and lost Calbos. And everybody was naked. And I looked around. And I was literally the only black guy there, right? This was back when I was married to my ex-wife and we were both black. It wasn't a lot of black couples. And he looked around and I was like, huh, there's a lot of white guys.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And they all are relatively small to average. Like I didn't see, like I felt, listen, I have, I got about eight inches and I'm thick. And I'm short. I'm five nine. And so my dick probably looks even way bigger on my body, right? They could see you in your only fans. Right, right, right. You can see my leg.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And I'm also very athletic, you know. But when it comes to black guys, I'm like, I'm big. but like this is another level to some of these black guys are fucking huge right but that day in Los Carboats with all those white guys I felt like I was King Kong yeah you're like oh
Starting point is 00:24:52 now I know why all these white couples are hitting me up yeah they just want some big dick yeah and like and the truth is like so so when I go to these couples I once again I don't just show up
Starting point is 00:25:07 you know what my big dick, you know, I want them to have an experience being with the man that, like, not only has a big dick, but also knows how to use it and use other things to supplement it. Because my big dick is the last thing you're going to get. That's the last piece of the puzzle you're going to get. You're going to get so much more than just that. And that's as a stag, that's how I judge, I guess, quote unquote, the bulls that come to us.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And if you watch some of our videos, you'll see, like, we have done stuff. like massages. Like we dumped up like a lot of full play and recorded that. I want people to see how you interact with a woman or a couple when you're coming into a lifestyle situation. So we don't just post fucking videos. I think that's boring. You could get that.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You get those videos on Pornhub for free. Exactly. You know, dick and a pussy. Right? Yeah. So what we really try to produce was like situation. thing, like you start to feel like, oh, this is real chemistry. This is like really fucking hot.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like everybody's enjoying themselves. Right. And you're not just playing around. I mean, that's what you're looking for. I mean, when you're setting these things up. And that's what you were looking for when you were a bull. Like when I said you had game. I mean, that's what it was all about.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And that's why you did become super popular. You became, because you started swinging. I mean, you were in the lifestyle with your wife, right? That's how it kind of started for you. Well, yeah, I became too popular. from my own detriment, meaning that, you know, back when I was a, when I was married to my ex-wife, I was so popular that, like, people were taking me up to the point that, like, it kind of annoyed my, my ex-wife, so I just stopped bringing it to her, and I kind of did it on the side, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and that's why the divorce, you know. Yes, I remember. That's in your first thing. Yes. You started cheating on her. You never, I can never understand that fucking guy, the guy that's got the girl. The guy that's got the girl, he can fuck whoever he wants. They're totally open and he still cheats.
Starting point is 00:27:12 What the fuck? Well, no, but see, the problem is I couldn't fuck whoever I want because at the time, it was so lost-sided, right? Because I was getting so much praise, so much, you know, people wanted me and didn't want her. Well, I mean, it did want her, but like my ex-wife was a, yeah. Yeah, it was very, she was very picky, right? Very, very, very picky. So like, you know, the problem with these hot wife couples, usually the wife is super hot and the husband is not so much.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So, like, she wasn't getting what she wanted out of it. So, like, I was like, okay, I want to keep doing this because I'm having so much fun. So I kept doing it, right, which obviously led to, you know, my divorce and some things I had to, like, learn about myself and become a little bit more honest. Right. But then you did continue, though, becoming, like being a beau after, you. you got out of that. I mean, shit.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I mean, at that point, she divorced me and sort of was like, okay, why stop? You know? I thought if I go all in. Right. But, and that's when I was
Starting point is 00:28:19 really able to get into being a bull because now I didn't have to worry about her being happy or not, you know, because even when we hooked up with another couple, when we had a fourth, a lot of times she walked away,
Starting point is 00:28:31 like, yeah, you had a great time. I did not. which caused friction in our relationship. You know what I also hear, and I think I brought this up on your girl Sheila's episode, and I didn't realize this until one hot wife told me this. Gang Bang Betty was on. She was a hot wife to her husband. She was having fucking gang bang.
Starting point is 00:28:51 She loved nothing more than, you know, just fucking guys for her guy and everything. But then eventually things ended there. And she told me on one of her update scenarios, she was like, you know, as a hot wife, eventually I felt like I was doing all. the work. You know, my guy, like, he wasn't doing anything with me. I was just going out, doing the guys coming back and reporting him. He was getting off. You do hear a lot of times the guy saying, oh, it's just like my, you know, my wife is like my porn story. That's what's so hot about the scenario. But how do you stop that from happening? Are you always involved, you know, because you don't want the girl to feel like she's doing all the work. It sounds like
Starting point is 00:29:30 you do you do a lot of the work too because you're talking to the guys. You're letting them know. You're there. right? I fucking do it all, man. And it could be my like controlling personality too. But because of my experience and because the experience that I've had in my wife, my current wife, who was not very experienced, I really took the reins and made sure like I took care of everything. No, a lot of the times I find the guy, chat with the guys.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I set up the hotel. I set up the recording. I even prep my wife physically. Like I get her going. Touch her. Go down to her. Make her feel beautiful. Take her out the vibe of sexy lingerie to make her feel even more sexy.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And, you know, there obviously I prepped the guy. I get from an enormous amount of information. Things to do, things not to do. You can kind of do your own thing too because she likes a different feel. I'm not trying to turn you into a robot. but there are some hard nose and definitely get some hard yeses and you've got to be mindful of. And then I'll let it happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:42 But the most important thing is you're staying connected to your wife because I think sometimes if you're sending your wife out solo all the time and you're just home, fucking waiting for her to come back and tell you everything, there could start to be a disconnect. And that's what you don't want to happen in these kinds of scenarios. Right, for sure. Although we have done solo play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 We done solo play in two different ways, right? We done it. We're actually probably three different ways. And we've done it whereas she will go play with the guy and I would stay back. And then when they're done, she texts me and then I'll fuck her and reclaim her. Yeah. Right at the hotel. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:22 All right. Then we did her to as she would go out and literally like go out, have a good time and then I'm home. And then she'll come back to me after the whole thing is done, right? And then I'll reclaim her. Yeah. Then we have also done it where I can't even reclaim her because I'm like, I'm at work. You know what I'm actually busy. So which is crazy because I'm sitting here.
Starting point is 00:31:50 My mind is going crazy. And then later on I come home and then we reconnect. But when she, anytime we did something like that, she always took a lot of video, even in between the session, she'll text me, even if I can't read it because I'm working on something, you know, she would still text me, you know, I just finished sucking this cock, now we're moving on to this, you know, she'll take a little break and like maybe send me a picture or a video or something like that. So that's actually really, really exciting too. Right. So you like all of the above. Do you recommend one over the other? Like, how do you get a woman not to wind up in that scenario
Starting point is 00:32:26 where she does feel like she's doing all the work. So the important part is to make sure this is fun, right? So however you set it up with your wife, you have to make sure she's having a good time and you stay connected. So to put her in a position when she feels like she's doing everything and you just sitting back and joining it, I could see how she could get elated.
Starting point is 00:32:50 You know, there's a lot of work when it helps. I mean, I've listened to the Gang Bang Betty episode And I can imagine there's a lot of work. Yeah. Fucking multiple guys and like in doing, but, but there are certain things you can do with your wife, for instance, for me. You know, when I'm there, I like to just rubber her, like, touch her, kiss her. I like for her, like, you know, and some guys may not like this.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It may not like this. I do it. Like, she could be fucking a guy and like, and she's done fucking him or like taking a break. And I could tell she's like, she's losing the sensitivity. because they've been banging for a little bit. And maybe I just go down and I just lightly like teets her pussy and I just lightly lick her pussy and just get her excited all over again. You know, and yeah, and I do that after she's been fucked.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And I was kind of like that. I like, like, I like to be able to like to taste how nice freshly fucked pussy is a very, is a turn on for me. At that point, it puts me very, very submissive. And I guess I guess how that could go into more of a, Cuck tendency. Right. But, you know, I enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, I think the ones where you see the stories where it goes awry. I think that that is typically a problem that's probably happening in other areas of the relationship, you know? It's probably never just like only in that scenario. So I think the warning is always like, this is not something that you want to do when you're having issues with somebody. You know, you got to have a really solid relationship going in and during, I think. because it could fuck things up.
Starting point is 00:34:30 100% or 100% like if you I mean two things you can fuck it up as a bull and make sure like you can get to a point like you never get called back or you just fucking up as a husband and like in ruin that experience
Starting point is 00:34:45 to which you don't want to do it again or even go worse whereas she started looking at you a little different and be like I don't know if this is a man I want to be married to right? Yeah. Because he knows long and sees me at his wife
Starting point is 00:34:55 he sees me as some sexual porn objects. Exactly. Exactly. That's what you don't want to happen. Exactly. Yeah. So there's definitely an art to wit in so many different ends. And even on the wife, too, right?
Starting point is 00:35:07 Because the wife has to make sure that the husband is also feeling a part of it, no matter what his role is. Sometimes guys love to be humiliated and love to be submissive in a cage and a chastity. If that's what he wants, then fine. But if not, let's just say you got a bull come. over. Here's one thing I don't, I've never done, right, you got to see, unless you specifically told me, and I've had a couple tell me this, but I make sure to show
Starting point is 00:35:33 the husband a respect. I come in, shake his hand, you know, talk to him a little bit, you know, just fill out the error, you know, if you want to join in, I'll let him join, I'm like, hey man, like, yo, I tell her, you know, suck your husband dick, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:49 I, like, if that's the role, I could tell he wants, I could do that. I could also put him in the corner, and be like, You're going to sit here and I'm going to fuck to shit out your wife and you're going to enjoy every second of it as you just watch and report. I think a lot of guys just got horny listening to you say that.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah. They probably a little hard. I love that. Yeah. I think they do. I've literally went to someone's house. Yeah. And like his wife was so beautiful and she was dressed up in lingerie and whatnot. And like, and she just took me upstairs as he stayed downstairs.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Right. And, and he only would able to come up after I was done with her and she was a come filled mess right um and and he enjoyed that I had it once again when a guy was locked up in a tapestry but I also had it where the husband was right then it was more having a threesome than like a cuck-co sad situation like she would get in it from both ends are you typically finding that the guy is open for a guy and guy action or not or is that something that's discussed ahead of time yeah yeah I will ask that, you know, on both fans. As a bull, I was like, hey, do you want to mail-a-mail contact?
Starting point is 00:37:03 You could grab my cock, if you want to suck my cock. Guys like to take my cock and, like, play with it and, like, and guide it into their wife. Yeah, yeah, and you know, sometimes they want to give me warmed up and get me nice and wet so that they would suck my cock, you know, as I'm kissing the wife. And to me, that's kind of really, really hot. I love to be like taking his wife and we standing up and we kiss and I'm rubbing. She's rubbing me and he is on his knees, you know, just sucking my cock. Really enjoying it to like, it'd be interesting how like they go to town and like you almost tell like how long they've been waiting for this. You could, yeah, you could tell how long they've been fantasizing about being able to take a black cock, hold it, grab it, study it, you know, jerk it, suck it, you know, and like, and fill.
Starting point is 00:37:55 like something they just never had before and get it ready for their wife and then you could tell that he's been waiting for his moment. Now are you that kind of stag or do you not roll that? How are you in as a stag? Well like if you're, do you play with the Bulls ever?
Starting point is 00:38:14 I have. I have. I don't think I take as much pleasure in it. But I have done it to it as sometimes I have to like maybe I could tell they've been going out for a little bit a while and I would
Starting point is 00:38:29 loop him back up. You know, I would grab the loob and I would loom him back up. I do like to do the whole guide in the cock into the into my wife's pussy. I've done that. I've tried that. I have even tried
Starting point is 00:38:44 going down in a guy. I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I've never done it. Yeah, let's try. Let's see how to say. Let's give it a shot. Yeah. You know, funny, and I go back and forth in that, because I could see how it's exciting. Because, like, when you have another man's cock in your hand
Starting point is 00:39:02 and also your mouth, that energy is, like, you could feel his, like, tension. Like, you know that tension. Yeah. And it could be a turn-on. And the other side of it, I'm like, you know, I, you know, I don't know how to girl suck cock, honestly. I don't know how to do it because, like, I get to,
Starting point is 00:39:21 I give props to girls that go to town because it's like, I like, damn, this is actually hard. And then I thought, you know, it makes me think when a girl's stuck in my car, I feel like sympathy for her now. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. But, but in my wife, she loves it. She, like, I'll probably do it more for her.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Oh, she likes watching? Yeah, she loves male-a-mail contact. Like, she wants me to go all out. Like, she wants me to top of God. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's like her ultimate fantasy, especially too strong athletic black guys.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Like, fucking, like, that's our number one fantasy. And I'd be like, yeah. You haven't done it yet. Yeah, I have topped the guy. Yeah. But for me to be topped, that's a tough one. But you have topped guys. Now, were you doing that when you were the bull?
Starting point is 00:40:20 or when you were in the lifestyle or Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bull. Not when I was a lifestyle because my ex-wife would not be cool with that. She's way more close-minded. I mean, unfortunately, I don't want to put a race on it, but like she's black. And like, I find sometimes white women
Starting point is 00:40:41 a little bit more sexual or liberal that like, okay, don't really give up. Like, but like she, like, in a black community, male, male, gay stuff, is really fond upon even now in 2023. So for my ex-wife, like, she was like, even just having two guys, she's like, yeah, I think that's gay. I was like, how was that gay?
Starting point is 00:41:01 I don't know. It just seems gay. It's two guys hard and really. I'm like, all right, cool. Yeah, I had a guy talk on all about pegging. He was very into pegging and he talked about how in the black community, it's just, there's a very big stigma that that was like something specific he really wanted to talk about to destigmatize it, you know, whether it's,
Starting point is 00:41:19 gay or not. It doesn't fucking matter. You know what I mean? But there is a big stigma around all that kind of stuff. Correct? Yeah. And we are prone. We are prone to like as kids. Even me, even to this day, I'm so open, right? But even part of me sometimes still
Starting point is 00:41:35 hold on to some of that stigmatation. Like, like, it's funny enough you said peg and my wife ex-boyfriend, she actually pegged one. Right. And I was like, and I was like, what? Is he gay? Right. Even you. Yeah. And she's like, no, he just liked that submissive, like to give up that power.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And I was like, I don't know. That looks kind of gay. Right. But take that sentence one step further. Like, even if it was and that's what it means, like, why is that so bad? Like, I say this a lot, but like, because I feel like trans people have a really good publicist out there because they're very out there. They're out and proud. They've got a lot of press for them.
Starting point is 00:42:14 They're destigmatizing it fucking left and right. But for some reason, a poor guy. gay man is still like bottom of the barrel. Like it's so weird that there's still this thing, but I'm not gay. Like, so what if you were? Like, why is that even bad, you know? It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And it's because it's like they don't see them as real men. It's like it's still that thing. No, I mean, you are 100% correct. Like, it's definitely still there. It's still very prevalent. Yeah. And like, and this is just the, I mean, we go into a new generation that's doing better, but it goes back to my generation.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. You know, back in the 80s. and stuff, like, it's just, you you know, if you was gay, then you less than a man. Yeah, I think it's rude. Yeah, I always think it's, like, rude. Like, even for what? Like, but I'm not gay. Like, I like to second day, but I'm not gay. So what if you were? Like,
Starting point is 00:43:01 why is that even bad? I just feel like someone needs to stand up for a gay man and just make it like not a big deal. Like, they're just a fucking men. You know, like, it's terrible. But let's go back to you. So yeah, but so you fuck some guys in the ass, but you're not gay. But so, like, you, so your wife, though, has
Starting point is 00:43:17 that fantasy of seeing you like she likes the guy on guy action for sure. Yeah, she does. You know, the thing about it is, and like she has a specific thing too, right? She has specific on like two black men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Two black men that she wants to fuck, right? So not just two random black men, but two black men she finds extremely attractive and seeing them go at it and watching it. Like that's like one of the porn she likes to watch more than anything. Wow. Now, does she do two guys at the same time, or is it always typically you and the bull?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah, it would be me in a bowl. Like, like I said, it'd be hard to, like, because I know her body and to have another guy, like, I could kind of prep off. It would make sense. But to, like, have two random guys, I think that'd be a lot. You know, I, you know, to be honest with you, I don't know if she ever wanted one and a half, like, you know. Two guys. Two bulls at work. guys, or like maybe three people, three guys. I don't know. I don't know if she'd be worn out. Especially three black guys, all big dick. Some girls get out of it, man. Some girls, like the bigger, the better, the more, the merrier. I don't think that's my girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's a specific girl.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I think most women do not like variety. They're not wired like guys. Like guys, I know, I have a lot of guy friends. I know how they roll. They could see a girl from across the room or across and be immediately hard for her and like fuck her you know and they're good to go you know a woman just not typically wired to just be physically attracted to somebody in one minute and they don't so and so therefore they're not really into a lot of variety because it's not like every guy they see they want to fuck but there are some women and i've had them on my show where they fucking love variety they could just meet a guy fuck him fuck five guys 10 guys and they're down for it you know i just don't think it's the majority. Yeah, yeah. And you got to know what type of woman you're dealing with because, like,
Starting point is 00:45:25 you know, and you also got to give them the freedom to explore the sexuality. And when you do, you realize, like, yes, sex life is spot to go to another level. Like, like, I don't, I don't think guys understand, because everybody like, I want more pussy. I would like to fuck on the girls, I can't get it, right? But you don't understand the pleasure you get from like watching your wife or girlfriend
Starting point is 00:45:54 fuck someone else and enjoy it. Now, I understand it's going to provoke some jealousy, some negative emotions. That's all natural. Don't feel bad. It's natural. And if she's a good woman,
Starting point is 00:46:10 she knows how to make you still feel like you the king. But, but, the beauty of just sitting back, listen, I've like, I've sat back and I watch my, uh, my wife be with a guy who was actually cock was bigoted in my, which at first. It was like, fuck. And, and when she sat on it, like, man, we got this video there, like, with, like, she, she took the cock and she's like, she's like jerking it and then she sat on top of it and
Starting point is 00:46:42 he first into her. I was like, oh my God, that's so fucking hot. And then she started riding and she's seeing how it getting wetter, like that hot cream was all over his cock. And I was like, oh, my God. Part of me was like, I can't believe I'm doing this. But the other part of me was like, I just want to sit here, watch it, and jerk off. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And then what got me, because I'm looking from behind, right? Yeah. And this is one of like the first times we've done this, right? I'm looking from behind. And then I, like, walked around and saw her face. And, like, in the pleasures and she's moaning and the face that she's giving, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm so we got to do this more. We got to, we got to do more of this. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But how do you sell the girl? Because I think that that's also a hard sell, too, because I think what a woman's biggest fear is. And this is why I think a lot of women keep their little dirty secrets under wraps a lot of the time, because. God forbid you tell a guy you like certain kinds of sex they might think you're a quote unquote horror. You know, there's a big stigma around women. They have to walk this really weird line, you know? Because there's that Madonna horror complex
Starting point is 00:48:00 and I think every girl's biggest nightmare or fear would be my guy wants me to fuck other guys, but what if I do it and then he sees me different? Do you know what I mean? Right, yeah. You know, I think there's a lot of conversation that has to be asked. I stream. You need, okay, so here's one thing about a stag or cuffs you have to understand
Starting point is 00:48:24 is that you don't control the situation. So in your mind, you played this movie to how this is going to go, and you didn't factor in as a bit that there's two other people that have their own picture. Right. So when it happened, yes, when it happened, you're like, okay, I didn't expect that to happen. That's because you didn't factor in the unknown, right? She may want to do something different than what you want. And he may also want to do something different than what you want.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You have to let go of the control, okay? As long as she's having a good time and she's safe, you have to let go of the control. You cannot be like, oh, I want you to do it this way. I want you to do it in this position. Can you stop? Okay, I want you go harder. Like, yo, calm down. Like, I get there certain things you do want to see and they'll be, and there's a compromise.
Starting point is 00:49:18 But you have to remember like there's other people that's involved and this is not just about you. Unless you want two robots. Yeah, no, but that's important because you started off really talking about how it's super important to be involved and tell the guy what to do and everything. But in another sense, just because you said all that and everything, it's not going to go exactly as planned. and you have to allow for it to roll out whatever way because, like you said, there's these two other people that have their own idea of what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah. Like, for instance, you know, like, I mean, once again, there's just some things we're just not going to do.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Like, if you, like, once again, we met this one guy. We was on Cassidy. And, like, and we was chatting with him. He was like, yeah, I'm a cervix. destroyer. Oh my gosh. And I was like, yeah, okay. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Like, right? It's gross. Right, right. Who would use the word cervix? This is that hot. I don't know. Right. I don't know what woman enjoy that, but that's not up.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Right. So, but on the same token, my wife, she always says she takes something new from everybody. like this one guy the way he like grabbed her ass and jiggle it it's something so small and she was like I really like that
Starting point is 00:50:46 that's something new or um maybe the way someone guy kissed or like the one we actually just posted a video recently when the guy like he took his cock
Starting point is 00:51:01 and just played with the opening of her vagina now mind you I kind of told him to do it because I knew she liked this. But, but, but, but then, like, he made it his own thing, right? So this way you could take some information, but still kind of explore it and have fun and be your own man. But, like, but, like, he just, he just played with the opening up for a person, like, it drove her crazy that she's a lot of that. Just the tip is, like, going slightly in, just the tip and pulling the back
Starting point is 00:51:31 out of it, it's circling and playing with the clit and just, like, just going out of, like, and don't, like, don't do for, like, two seconds. Okay, I want to, I want to pick it out. I want to put a fucking, she's got to really enjoy that moment. And she goes so crazy with it. Like she loves, she could almost have an orgasm just by,
Starting point is 00:51:49 it's called the O spot. You know, you got the G spot. You got the O spot, right? Yeah. It's like the opening of the vagina. We've got so many nerve endings there. Totally. And, yeah, and she really, really loved that.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And that in itself just kind of almost made her orgasm. And like, you watch that video. and you'd be like, okay, that's really fucking hot. Yeah. Yeah, I used to call it the halfway in game, but I had a guy that did that bike because he was dysfunctional, but it wound up to be like really hot. People would be like, how can you do that?
Starting point is 00:52:20 It sounds so like torture. I'm like, no, it's actually really fucking hot. There's something about it. I guess maybe it's like what you're saying. There's that, what is it called the ozone? Yeah, the O spot. Oh, the O spot, yeah. Yeah, the O for opening in spot, like a G spot.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, the O spot. Let's like end with. How did you get your girl to be open to hot wafing? Well, okay, so first and foremost, I was honest, early on in our relationship. I was like, I want to explode it. So I think sometimes if you really, really have this fetish or this kink,
Starting point is 00:52:56 and you started dating someone new, and then you wait six months in and dropping on them, they can be like, oh, shit, it's not the man. They feel like you lied to them. It's like you hit something. So a lot of times, I mean, With her, I told her early on. Now, I would say it wasn't super hard because she had a lot of friends who was in open relationships, lifestyle relationships, even one couple, which was actually her best friend.
Starting point is 00:53:21 That was also in a very sad, cuckold type relationship. Right. So it wasn't like out of left field. She wasn't totally vanilla. Right, right, right. Although she's never experienced and she still did not want to share me. So that was something that was really. hard on the table, like she didn't want to share me.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And sometimes, you know, that's also tough because, like, you know, we go to these parties and then couples, like, they want to gravitate towards me, right? And she's like, mm, not feeling this. Like, okay, I get it. But, you know, we just had good communication, a lot of honesty and letting, give her the realm of, like, exploring and being honest with me about her sexuality, her sexual path. Like, I actually, yeah, so what a couple of things have you done? she's like I kind of did have a three-something like two guys in Italy.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I wasn't, no, it was Cuba. It was one of those. Yeah, some place else. Yeah, yeah. She actually said it wasn't a good experience. It's like, you know, she had more fun on the dance or dance with the two guys. And then when they went back to the room, she said, oh, shit, I don't know which one to choose. So she just kept both for them.
Starting point is 00:54:29 But it just really wasn't the best experience. But I think when you meet two guys in the club and take them back and you just like just do it off the cuff. like it's like you really roll in the dice. Yeah, totally, totally. But so like, but I didn't judge her, right? I wasn't like, what? You fuck two guys from the club? That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, this is why I think a lot of women don't cop to certain things, whether it's stuff that they've done in their past or stuff that they're Googling and, you know, or thinking about when they're jerking themselves off. I think a lot of women don't put that stuff on the table because the biggest fear is that your guy's going to look at you and think you're a whore. Even though that's what every guy wants in the bedroom, it is that weird thing.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Like I said, it's a stigma that's there. And it's if you take that away from your girl and let her know that you really, really, not faking it, but really would accept her and all of her slutty glory. She'll cop to stuff. But I think that women hold back a lot of their sexuality. I don't think the younger generation has to anymore
Starting point is 00:55:33 because that stigma isn't there. but in our generation it is and guys only got screwed in the long run because girls aren't copping to what they really want to fucking do and they're repressed their sexuality is completely repressed because of the the stigma that men put on them so in a weird way it's so it's fucking stupid yeah it's funny how like it's funny how a guy wants a girl to be a freak but don't want to know but don't want to know how she became a freak like yeah he wants a good blowjob but if you give him a good blow job he's like how many guys have you fuck like why do you give such good had yeah right right don't want to know all that like me i'm
Starting point is 00:56:14 me i'm different i want to know i want to know i want to know i ask my girlfriend everything like what was the biggest dick she had right the biggest dick she had um what's the best sex she ever had you know like like i asked about her past boyfriends like how her most recent past boyfriends even too she's been married before too to our past husband you know for me it was a little bit different because a lot of her past sexual experience wasn't good she spent she spent most of her sexual life being repressed and like not having good sex so a lot of it was from an education standpoint like what not to do and how can I make her sex like better yeah but you know she told me some stories that was actually good and
Starting point is 00:57:01 I was like huh okay you know I became I became competitive I was I'm just going to have to beat that. It's all good, though. Yeah, I think you have to really let your woman know. And like maybe, you know, turn her on to my show and show her that there really are guys out there that exist that do want to hear about other guys, that it does turn them on. Because I always say this. And before I did my show and started my show, I've been doing it for eight years. One of the biggest things that I was surprised about.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I knew guys were blowing guys on the side. I knew about a lot of things that were going down. But what I didn't know is that so many guys are into. their girls fucking other guys. And I had guys over the years ask me about other guys. Is this guy bigger than me? You know, and I always were like, no. Like, you know, you think that they're asking because you want them to feed their ego
Starting point is 00:57:51 and tell them how big they are. And I think back and I'm like, I bet you those guys wanted me to say the opposite, you know? Like a woman would never think that their guy wants to know about another guy because he's going to get turned on. They think it's a trap, you know? And I think that a lot of guys don't want to know about it. But if you are a guy that it truly turns you on and you really have to sell that to your girl. And she's not going to believe you right off the bat, you know, tell her to listen to some of my episodes.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Because girls don't believe that guys exist like that. But there are guys. Like you are one of them. You like hearing about it. It fucking turns you on, you know. But a woman on a first day might not believe you. She's going to think, no way. You know, I know you're the best guy.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Your dick is the biggest. but so I think you have to really let your girl know that it is the real deal and give her time to really believe you and trust you that she can go there because I think that that's girl's biggest fear. Yeah and I would say also you don't ask questions you don't want the true honest answer to. Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Most guys don't roll like this. A lot of guys don't. So don't go there if that's not your thing. But this is for guys that want to be a ball or that know that they have this secret.
Starting point is 00:59:05 desire. Well, see, the thing is a slippery soap because you may think you do until you really do. You know, they're like, you may be like, oh, man, I'm thinking about her with a big cock. And then you realize, and for some reason you didn't put like two and two together and you didn't realize like how last boyfriend, who you know and you may not like as a person. Is the guy she's going to tell you about. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So, so you'd be like, I mean, let's say his name is John, right? And you hate John, and John's an asshole. She thinks John's an asshole, too. So, like, you turn to him, he said, like, so what's like the biggest cock you ever had? Like, like, who was it? And you, for some reason, you're just not thinking of John because he may be a small guy, he may be, whatever guy he's not thinking.
Starting point is 01:00:00 He's like, honestly, John had the biggest cock I've ever. at and now you're like fucking pissed because you because you don't want to give Don any props of credit. Yeah. And now that hits your ego a little bit. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:14 But you did mention before like that one time when you had that bull that came and he had a bigger dick than you and at first you were kind of like oh and then you saw her face and you were like what the fuck? I mean like but you were honest you said that you know you might you jealousy might come up. That's not you know we're not like let's talk reality here like
Starting point is 01:00:31 and you know how do you deal with those moments? You honestly, like you accept it, right? I mean, what can you do? Like, I can't make my dick bigger. I can't make his dick smaller. Hey, man, can you, like, make that dick a little bit smaller? So it makes me feel better about myself. The only thing I say is, like, one, I do believe I'm very confident.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like, even if you had a big dick, it doesn't mean he's better, right? And even if he's really great at what he's doing, and I hope that he is, because I will really, really want my wife to experience good, good, great, amazing, outstanding sex. Yeah. Like, it doesn't compare to our emotional connection. Right. And even past that, it actually was really hot to see her take his cock. I was actually, I was impressed.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And she enjoyed it. And I enjoyed watching it after I got past my ego. And, you know, it was just a really great time. Here's another piece that you made as a sag and a cuck You could get a little jealous about It's not even about the guy It's about the her experience Like she's having experience to be with other men
Starting point is 01:01:42 You have not Soon or later at first it's like super sexy And like damn you know what I would like a new piece I have You know like you start feeling Like I know I'm a cuck And I'm supposed to be in a submissive role But like as a man
Starting point is 01:01:57 You see a beautiful girl walking down the street It kind of gets your eye Like damn I want to know how that is. You know, you're still with the same woman. That's also another part of the mental thing you have to be ready for and have those discussions with your wife and see how y'all work through that. You know, maybe she do give you a hard pad.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You don't have one right now. No, no, no, I don't. Or maybe she even dig deeper into, like, training you to be a better cook. Right. to deal with those emotions because, like, those things can cause problems. It has caused problems with me before. And, like, because I hit them, right? And next, you know, it comes out.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And I'm, like, I'm, like, texting some girl. I'm, like, trying to get some attention. So you have to be ready for that and learn how to deal with that, especially if your woman made a hard line. I'm like, I don't want to share you. Now, how do you feel five years from now? Do you believe that you could, that hard line could exist the whole time in your relationship with your girl and you're going to be fine with it? Yeah, I believe. I mean, who knows what happened in five years?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Five years from now, like, you know. No, but like, let's pretend that five years from now she hasn't changed. She still does, is not interested in seeing you with another woman and knows she can't deal with it. So that ain't fucking happening. How, like, five years from now, can you be only with her? Yeah, so I told her we could make a compromise, right? Maybe we could find a really, really feminine, sexy trans girl. Like, we get the best of both girls.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Oh, that's fair. You get to see me top of guy. Yeah. And I get to imagine like, it's a girl. Yeah. Especially, like, she's stacked and looks very, very feminine. Yeah. You know, like, it just things like that, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Right, you could get creative. That's actually a good. That's actually a good idea. Like, how do you work within that relationship and make everybody happy? There are different ways you could do it. Yeah, that's important. But like you said, you never know, five years from now. She might open up and, you know, you're in the right place at the right time with the right couple and she might be.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, like, I think for me, because I've had problems with infidelity, right? And so I think sometimes it's good to like to be in this spot and and understand like it's not about me and I have to deal with those emotions. And it's a good test, you know. It's a good way to establish a lot of discipline. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And control. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it takes a lot of that dealing with these different things that are coming at you because like you said, sometimes you're jealous, sometimes you're not, you know, and you don't want to wind up, but you also don't want to wind up where you were with your first wife because you, you and Sheila have something good going on.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Give a shout out to, I've got to wrap it up. Give a shout out to her. People are going to be dying to see her real videos now after you talked to Rob. Give a shout out to her Only fans. Yeah, yeah. It's an Only Fans is Sheila exposure. And we really produce, I mean, it's not. some like production video, it's still like off the phone.
Starting point is 01:05:27 So it has that real like homemade amateur. Amateur. Yeah. Yeah. But we show a lot. Like it's not just fucking we show the build up. We show the before the after you got videos of me clean her up. Like a guy just things coming inside of her and she makes me clean her up.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Oh, I don't know what she makes me. Why do it a little bit of both on her, you know, getting a three something with me and another guy or her just. her facial expression, I think, is really going to get a lot of guys. And how beautiful she is, how tight her body is. So, yeah, so it's OnlyFans, Sheila Exposure. But we also are on Twitter. I mean, you've got some free videos on Twitter. But those videos are, like, edited where we don't show the face.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So if you want to see the whole thing, you've got to go to the OnlyFans. Yeah, but on Twitter. Get a taste of what they're seeing, right. Yeah, yeah. And on OnlyFans, it's Hot Wife, Sheila. No, that's on Twitter. On Twitter, it's Hot Wife, Sheila. Yeah, yeah, right. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Thank you for correcting me. And Twitter is hot as a hot wife Sheila, at hot wife Sheila. Awesome. All right. Listen, Jay, why don't you do me a favor? Because, you know, I have a Patreon. And I know you have my Discord. You could go on there and promote her only fans and post some, like, videos maybe from her Twitter over there for my Discord channel.
Starting point is 01:06:43 But for my Patreon, did I get pictures of you last time? Like, why don't you send me anonymous picks of you? Not like R-rated ones, not X-rated, no dick picks or anything like that. but you know because you're like fit and in shape like send me some pick so that people could see you over there for my Patreon I could definitely do that all right awesome all right send me those thank you so much for calling in thank you thanks bye okay I just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession secret sex lives of total strangers is now available not only in paperback an e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th,
Starting point is 01:07:26 but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book.
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