Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 632 - John Came out to his Ex Wife as Bisexual and Now he’s in an Open Relationship

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

John came out as bisexual to his ex wife and now he is in an open relationship and he called in to talk all about it. When did he realize he was bisexual? When was his first hook up with a guy? And, when and why did he decide to come out? Tune in to hear all the details including how he defines bisexual is, his solo anal play and when he realized he wanted the real thing, how and why did he decide to tell his wife he was bi and how she reacted, how he told his guy friends as well and how they reacted, his first experience with a guy behind his wife’s back, where he met the guy and exactly what went down, how and why he told his wife he cheated and how she reacted, why he decided after his divorce to only date women instead of men, his “bi cycles” and how they ebb and flow, his first bottom experience and exactly what went down, how he met his new girlfriend and how she reacted when he first told her he was bisexual, how he managed to get a hall pass from her to hook up with guys, the rules and details of the hall passes and why they have them, how many guys he hooks up with in one day while using a hall pass, how many hall passes he gets a year and why he sometimes gets denied one, how he feels about giving his girlfriend a hall pas as well and how and why she’s not into it plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He told his wife. Now, let me tell you, I think that that takes balls. He's still young. He's like in his 30s, but he did come out to his wife. He talks about how she reacted. He did wind up cheating on her. His first experience with a guy was a cheating scenario. He talks about exactly what went down with that guy

where he met the guy, how he told his wife, how she reacted, why they got divorced, like, duh. And then he talks all about how he met his current girlfriend, okay? He is with a woman now who gives him a hall pass and not just one hall pass, multiple hall passes. And when he gets his hall passes, he doesn't just sleep with one guy, okay? He sleeps with double-digit guys all in one day. I mean, this is just so funny to me as a woman.

then, but probably not funny to any guy. Because like if some guy got a hall pass to fuck as many girls as he wanted and every girl would be down to fuck him just like guys are down to fuck anyone, you'd probably hit up 15 girls in one day too. That's how many guys he fucks on his haul pass days, okay? Like tons and tons of guys. It just does not happen in the straight world. That's not happening.

Even if your wife gave you a free pass to fuck as many girls as you wanted, you couldn't find 15 girls in one day to fuck you. But if you're a guy and you're looking. for 15 guys to fuck you, in the same day, you could, okay? Because that's the way guys roll. That's the way he rolls. He gets his hall pass. Sometimes he doesn't get a hall pass.

He talks about how he brought it up to his new girl that he was bisexual, how she reacted, how he got the hall pass, the rules and regulations they have for his hall passes, whether she ever is going to get a hall pass and what is in their future. I think this is an inspirational story because I think that this guy, it really has balls. The fact that he not only told his first wife, he told his friends and his current girl. He's out and proud.

He did all the work to really be who he is. And he's benefiting because he's able to, you know, be exactly who he is, but still have a relationship. And I think that's what people struggle the most. Like, you know, you might think, oh, he's having his cake and eat it too. But why shouldn't he?

You know, he did the work. He was really super honest. honest and he's living his best life. So you're going to love his story. I'm going to be right back on with John. Hi, John. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, Kathy. I'm doing well. How are you? Good. I'm good. You're good. You're hiding in a car just like everyone else when they're talking to me. It's always so funny to me that people are hiding in their cars. Yep. Yeah. I'm here in a parking lot right know. Yeah. So listen, you're John, you're a bisexual male. You're in a relationship, an open kind of relationship with a woman currently who knows you're bisexual. You are also divorced. You were married

before you were with this woman. And you're being bisexual was a big reason for your divorce. Is that correct? Yep. That's all correct. So why don't we start with like when you realized you were by? Let's go all the way back before you even met your wife. Yeah, I actually didn't realize that I was by until after I got married. It was probably about a year or so after I got married that I kind of discovered that I'm by just from solo sessions, you know, masturbating to, you know, looking at porn. And up to that point, I had enjoyed anal play with myself solo. and at that point, I had kind of given myself permission to say, you know, I'm not, I'm not just a straight guy who, you know, likes butt stuff. I actually am by. I do like guys. I would like this to be, you know, a real dick. So that's just kind of how I discovered it. It was shortly after I got married.

That's interesting. So before you were married, never any hint that you like Dick at all, nothing that you could ever. remember when you were younger, like in the locker room, guys changing, you know, because a lot of times that's when some guys copped to the fact that they were kind of curious and looking around. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, there were a couple of occasions with friends kind of getting together when our hormones were going crazy or, you know, I was out on sports travel teams and, you know, we'd be staying at a host family's house and everybody's watching scramble porn together on the basement TV. I remember seeing you know, one of my friends' dicks, and this was right about the time where he was an early

early bloomer, and he just had a huge dick, and I was kind of mesmerized by it. I do remember that, but I didn't really give myself permission to think that that was okay. I came, I grew up Catholic, and it kind of came from an environment where it wasn't really okay to be anything other than straight. Yeah, for sure. I know that world. I grew up in it too. Okay, so let's then, let's go to the time you're married and there's like one day. I mean, is it like out of the blue or did it come gradually? Like how do you realize while you're married and why do you think that happened then? Yeah, I was in grad school at the time and spending a lot of late nights studying and, you know, a lot of the time I would need study breaks and those study breaks a lot of time wound up being me jerking off.

And in those study breaks, I mean, I got, I think this was the time when Tumblr was kind of open to porn back then and was getting big in terms of, you know, everybody sharing porn on Tumblr. And I think I just saw some, some Tumblr blogs that included, you know, straight guys getting pegged. And then they also, you know, included some buy porn. And then, you know, that led into gay porn. And, you know, over the course of probably about a year, I just realized like, okay, this isn't, you know, this isn't just, I'm a straight guy who likes butt stuff. You know, I'm actually bi. Right. Now, does bisexual mean to you that you would not only have sex with a guy, that you would also date a guy or is it just a sexual thing?

Because I think everybody has a different definition of bisexual. Yeah, yeah. You know, there's a common definition of bisexual that's really the one that I like to describe in general. Robin Oaks, I think she's a bisexual activist. Yeah. And I don't have it off the top of my head, but I generally subscribe to her belief for me personally. I think it's, I describe myself as a bisexual or a hetero-romantic bisexual man. I think I'm capable of, I don't know if I'm capable of.

actually of having a romantic relationship with a guy. But it hasn't happened yet. I haven't felt any emotions or feelings or romantic feelings. Nothing that made me want to date a guy. No, but you didn't tell me what her definition is. Yeah, I think her definition is I am capable of being romantically and or sexually attracted to more than one gender. Right.

So you just haven't been attracted. but you feel that maybe you could be, you just haven't met the right guy. Yeah, I mean, maybe. I'm not really, you know, looking to date a guy at the moment. But, you know, if the, if all the stars aligned,

I, you know, I don't, I wouldn't be super surprised about it. Yeah, I only asked because I used to always think that bisexual was like, oh, you would have sex with someone of the same sex, but you would never date them. It was just a sexual thing, you know, and then I was corrected many times.

And I'm like, oh, now I realize, like, bisexual doesn't mean that. It means that you would date a man or a woman. So you have never dated a guy, though, correct? Yeah, I've never dated a guy. You know, I think that there are lots of different definitions of bisexual, but, yeah, for me, I haven't dated a guy. Yeah, yeah. But no, I think she's right.

She's saying what these people told me on my show, where I was wrong. Like, bisexual means you can have romantic feelings for either, correct? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Okay, good. Long way of saying the same fucking thing. Okay. So you meet your wife, you're having it, you're jerking off, you're in grad school. She doesn't know that this is going down, but I guess like at some point she finds out or do you tell her? Yeah, yeah. At one point I told her. I sat her down and, you know, I was pretty broken up about it. I was kind of a mess. I thought that she was going to divorce me right then.

And, you know, I made a promise then that I, you know, wound up several years later, you know, not being able to keep. So, you know, I told her that I wouldn't need to act on it ever. And, yeah, a few years down the line, I realized that, you know, I would need to experience it at some point. And then, you know, that didn't go over so well. And things kind of went from there. Wow. But how fucking honest are you? I mean, you just copped to everything you're going through at every point, which I give you a lot of credit for because a lot of people don't roll that way.

Yeah, thanks. I mean, I wasn't honest with her, you know, at the time when I wound up, you know, after I told her that I would need to experience it, she then, you know, she didn't take it very well. And I walked it back. I said that, you know, I only needed to experience it once before I died. That's how I had phrased it. Oh, okay. And then you did experience it without her. And then I did. Yeah, yeah. And then I cheated after that. Oh, okay. But, you know, this is why sometimes it's like, you know, when you don't want to accept what your partner comes to you and tells you and you, you know, you tell them like, that's not acceptable. Like they tell you their truth and then you say, well, that truth can't exist. You know, the problem is if that's their truth, most likely, it's still going to happen. Do you know what I mean? I can't explain it, but you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I hear what you're saying. I mean, for her, I just given all the signs that I'd gotten in the past and just knowing the person that she was, I thought that she would be willing to roll with me on that. But turns out that she wasn't open to that sort of stuff. So yeah, it was disappointing. And, you know, I'm in a better place now, but it was rough there for a few years. Yeah, I can imagine. Let's go back, though, to the first time you actually tell her. Like that's where it's like super ballsy. I mean, here you are having these desires for guys and everything. And you were, it was very emotional for you. And the fact that you went to your wife, who is the closest person to at the time and like that's the person that you told about it. I think that that's amazing.

Yeah. Thanks for saying that, you know, it was very, I was very emotional. It was very difficult, you know, to, for her or in my head for her to think of me in completely different way. I mean, when I told her that I was that I was by, you know, this was back in the early, early 2010s. And, you know, there was a study that was done, I think, in like 2005 and some follow-up studies that, like said, male bisexuality didn't exist. Turns out they used a bunch of flawed methodology to, you know, determine that it was all self-selected from really pools of just gay men. But that was kind of

the belief in pop culture was that women can be by, but men who say that they're by are really just you know, I think sex in the city had an episode about that where bi men are just taking a stop on the train to gay town or something like that.

I think I remember that one. Yeah. But so how did she take it when you told her? She was pretty solemn. You know, I think she wasn't great news for her to hear, but I think she saw how emotional I was about it, how torn up I was about it. You know, we were newly married and, you know, I was feeling like, you know, that she had,

she didn't sign up for this and, you know, I'm putting all this stuff on her. So, you know, she saw that it, that it was affecting me a lot. But yeah, she said that she was okay with it as long as I didn't act on it. So that's kind of, that's kind of how she took it. Now, did your sex life with her change at all? Like, was anal introduced? Because I would assume that maybe you copped to that kind of thing with her. Yeah.

I did, you know, got into like some of the specifics. But, you know, she, I think she fingered me while she, you know, gave me a blowjob a few times. You know, and I started buying toys that I could use myself. She used, actually, I don't know if she did use one of those toys on me. At one point, a couple of years, after that during kind of a boozy date night, I told her I wanted her to peg me. Yeah. And she said, no way.

That that grossed her out, that she didn't want, that it turned her off, that she didn't want to think of me like that. And so at that point, I kind of started pulling away and stopped opening up to her about that. So that was kind of tough to hear. Yeah, because I would assume it's very tough to bring up. look, you had to wait until you were drunk to ask her for what you really wanted. And then to be rejected is horrifying, right?

Because it's pretty vulnerable. That's like a very vulnerable place to be where you're really admitting your deepest, darkest secrets. And if someone's like, ew, uh-uh, you know, you're just going to put that shit back in a drawer. Yeah, especially the person that, you know, is your best friend who you think you can tell anything to, so. Yeah.

And listen, I mean, I, listen, like you said, this. is like back in 2010 as alone as you were and fantasizing about guys you know i think you brought it to your girl because who else were you going to bring it to at that point and i think at the time for her i mean who she who was she going to talk to about it you know because they're right this is what my guy told me i don't know that she'd be able to go to her friends and tell them i don't know if she did you know but you were the only person she could really deal with it too i mean i think it was like a heavy thing for the both of you yeah Yeah, yeah, definitely. And, you know, I told her over the years, I was like, I want you to tell your friends so that you have somebody to talk to about this. So you don't feel like you're isolated and, you know, that this is just this big secret. I mean, during the intervening years, I started to come out to all of our close friends. So everybody, by the time we divorced, everybody had known that I'm by for years.

So. Wow. How did that come about? And how come? I mean, like, this is another place where it's like a shocking to me, how honest you are, you know, to go to your guy friends and put it out there. You know, how does how and why did you do that? You know, it was just, it was giving me a lot of anxiety, you know, guys, especially kind of where I was living, people, I'm not conservative, but people where I'm living. conservative people where I went to school are conservative and the guys that I went to went to college with are conservative and a lot of them are and and and you know they'd make jokes about you know thrown around gay slurs and stuff and you know everything's you know that's so gay and you know if you're gay you're you know you're not a man yeah yeah exactly you're not a man and so you know I was it bugged me every time that they didn't know this thing about about me and they all took it very well you know everybody has all of my my guy friends have been

accepting it was really just my very liberal and ostensibly tolerant ex-wife and her her female friends who were you know they're all by or by curious and you know I just got those are the people that I got the the worst reactions from over the years oh so interesting well I was going to say, listen, when you were like, I told my wife she could go tell her friends, like, that's the last thing your wife probably wanted to do, because you don't know how girls are. They're so judgy, and I mean, she probably didn't, you know, the last thing she could do is really go to her girlfriends and say it. Did they live at any of their by fantasies, or were they maybe projecting onto you, and they were, like, secretly jealous that you were being able to be by, and they couldn't? I mean,

because why were they the ones that were so anti what you were going through, but yet your guy friends were so open, we're so cool with it. Yeah, I don't know specifically. I mean, I think personally, I've, you know, having received most of the biphobia that I've gotten from women, I tend to think that women have, you know, whether it's evolution or society, and regardless of how liberal women are, I mean, there's just these expectations that they have about men and masculinity that really aren't that they're not true in all cases. So, you know, when there's kind of the culture war stuff about the patriarchy and how,

you know, men are, and men do need to change in a lot of ways. But, you know, I think that women perpetuate a lot of those gender stereotypes. You know, they have a lot of that kind of inside of them as well. You know, I do think there's all. also they were a little bit jealous too. One of them in particular, she, you know, I, I was, you know, in the wedding of her and her husband a little while after that. She propositioned me. She said, I know you like group sex, you know, when are we going to fuck? You know, and my wife was out of town at the time and I was like, your husband's right outside. You know, you guys are my good friends, you know, I was I was a little stoned at the time. So I didn't really know how to how to handle

that in the moment, but I just kind of like, you know, shoved it to the side. I totally would, but everything would have needed to be consensual. And it seemed like she kind of wanted to. Oh, she was just being naughty. I mean, she didn't want anything to be consensual. Yeah. Yeah, there was probably both those things going on like you said a little bit. Like if they hadn't lived out there, bisexual fantasies, they were jealous that you were a little bit of a, projection, but also that whole thing of them, of the women, you know, in society and the stigma and around a guy on guy action and, you know, what that means about a guy that, they can't help it. We were, we were born in a certain time. The younger generation, it's very different. I'm just telling

you, it's not the way women are anymore. I don't think it's a nature thing. I don't think it's a nature thing. I just don't think it's a guy-girl thing. I think it's a cultural thing, like you said. You know, and it was, and it's the time that we grew up in. It was what was shown in the media and everything. So, you know, they can't help it. But it's different now, thankfully. But, you know, you were very ahead of the time putting yourself out there. Like, when you told your guy friends, like, did you, you know, how did you do it?

Were you, like, sent a group text or just tell them every time you were, like, hanging out with one? Like, how did those conversations go down? Yeah. I mean, I only really remember telling a few. of them at the like the initial people that I told like the first time that they had ever heard it I only remember two occasions one time I told a close friend and I was I was shaking I was so nervous about how he was going to how he was going to react he's a very he's just a good guy very liberal and very supportive friends he was like yeah no no worries man not a big deal

you know, I'm happy that you told me. I know that that probably took a lot for you. And then I remember telling another couple friends during like a night out before a wedding, rehearsal dinner. Everybody's kind of getting drunk, taking shots. And I remember telling a couple of those guys at that time. And, you know, I don't think that they, I think that they took it pretty well. Everybody else, I think it was just kind of it trickled out over the years.

And, you know, eventually, because I feel like everybody knew, I just felt more and more comfortable just kind of talking about it. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's kind of how everybody wound up finding out. And how freeing for you? Yeah.

Just to have everyone fucking, and what about for your wife, too? Was that good for her as well, just to have it out there? I don't know. You know, that's, I do remember when I told the, the two guys at the wedding, my ex, she was there.

she was right there at the time. And she knew that I was kind of getting more comfortable and needing to tell other people about it, needing to open up about it. So I told those guys in front of her. I remember her kind of being quiet at that point. And it seemed like she was a little uncomfortable with it. Yeah. Yeah, I would think so.

She'd be afraid of how they were going to take it. And, you know, because you're her guy. And I totally understand that. So how do you guys wind up divorcing? because of it. Is it because you wound up hooking up with a guy and, you know, I don't know, I'm going to just take a guess and say that you probably wound up telling her after you did it. I mean, did she find out or did you tell her? You're just so fucking honest. I have a feeling you cheated on her or told her, right? You're that guy. Yeah. Yeah. That Catholic guilt kicked in

and, you know, I just, I couldn't stop thinking about what you did. Yeah, what I did and what that would do to her. And, you know, there were a lot of other reasons. I mean, we were dealing with a lot of other stuff at the time. I don't really want to get into the specifics, but, you know, there was other stuff that led to it. But at that point, that was just kind of, that was the straw that broke the Campbell's back. And, you know, she asked, you know, to separate. And then, you know, she said, I needed to go explore my bisexuality. And, you know, and then eventually she asked for a divorce. Well, tell me about that experience with the guy. I mean, because this was your first experience. with a man in real life?

Like, how did that go down? And what happened? And how good or bad was it? Yeah, it was, it was good. The guy, he was another married guy. He basically, I loved it. I knew that, you know, I started giving him a blowjob. The minute I started that, I was like, oh, yeah, this is something that I really like.

This isn't just something that I, like, needed to try and get it out of my system or needed to try. and, you know, oh, I actually don't like this in reality, you know, that kind of really confirmed for me that I was by. So, but yeah, it was a guy that I just met through, through Craigslist. And, you know, back in those days, the Craigslist, I know you say is the gift that keeps on giving. Oh, yeah. Oh, my shit. Oh, my God.

I got all my callers from there. I probably emailed your guy that you responded to his ad. I mean, that's what I, I had to go looking through the ad, those places to find people. So I saw all those ads. Probably, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this guy, you know, it was both of our first time with another guy. And after, you know, he came pretty quickly. And, you know, I was going to town and just really enjoying what I was doing.

And the reason, like one of the reasons as we were about to hook up, one of the reasons why we felt like we could kind of trust one another is that we were both married. Yeah. And, you know, we both. felt like we had, you know, the same amount to lose. And he said after I, after I gave him a blowjob and he, and he came, he was like shocked. He was like, you said that this was your first time. I don't believe you. And so after that, he wound up, you know, blocking me. I'm sure that, you know, there was other stuff that went into that, just his, his feelings of guilt or

whatever. But, you know, maybe he thought, yeah, maybe he thought that I was like, you know, lying. and more commissuous than I was. Right, right, right. Yeah, the guys think that about girls, too. If you give a guy a really good blow job, they, like, think you're a whore. It's like, why do you do that so good? Do you fuck a lot of the guys?

You know, same shit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why that process gets started. I don't know, they're ruining more future blow jobs for themselves. Yeah, yeah, it's so dumb. But anyway, okay, so you wind up feeling guilty about that. You only see him one time and then you tell your wife? Yeah, yeah, it was like a month, month or two afterward that I wound up telling her, I was afraid that I, like, you know, had given her an STI or something.

And it turns out I didn't. Did he top you? I mean, did you go all the way? No, no, not that time. Okay. So you wind up getting a divorce and do you go out and like, is that when you start hooking up with a lot of guys? I mean, how long is there in between your ex-wife and the woman that you're currently with? Yeah.

So it was probably, it was pretty quick, actually. I was feeling pretty spurned by my ex and rejected. And, you know, I felt like I did need to figure out my bisexuality. Like, could I date a guy or, you know, is that something that I need? Or is, you know, is sleeping with, you know, is sleeping with, women something that I'm always going to need as well is my bisexuality is my attraction to men something that I can just try once and get out of my system and that's it you know I wanted to explore all that stuff and I figured out that you know I love pussy and I'm always going to need that in my life

and just given the success or lack thereof that I was having kind of out in the single dating scene with being open about being bisexual, I knew that it was going to be really difficult for me to, I don't know, casual sex with women is not easy to get. Casual sex with guys is very easy to get. Totally. And so, yeah. So, you know, just knowing that there are those differences,

I realized that I did need to be in a relationship with a woman to basically get pussy on a regular basis. You know, I wanted to have a primary female partner that that was a desire that I had and that I would be, I would feel satisfied and fulfilled if I had a primary female partner. So I'd started dating women and it was probably four, four months or so after my ex said that she wanted to split that I started dating my current girlfriend. Where'd you meet her? Online, just online dating. So, one of the apps. Guys are funny like that.

they can't be alone for two seconds. Like you went straight on the apps. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty quick. Yeah. Okay.

So you meet her now. Did you put, was it out there right in your profile? Like, I'm bisexual? Or when are you telling these girls that you're dating when you're dating soon after your divorce? When do you put it out there about your being bisexual? Yeah. It was usually, I mean, it depends on how the conversation went before, you know, before our first

date. With her, it was on our second date. You know, I'd usually try and get that out there, like, fairly quickly so that I wasn't wasting my time. And it wasn't wasting, you know, any of their time if that's something that they're not cool with. But I also, you know, I didn't want to put it on my profiles anymore because I just wasn't getting any matches. You know, I thought that there were a lot of women who were just kind of turning down me as a possibility, even though they might. you know, enjoy being in a relationship with a bisexual guy. I think that that was kind of like a filter that was just keeping women from seeing that,

hey, maybe I'm actually a good guy too. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think a lot of things in people's profiles work against them on online dating. It's so counterintuitive, I feel like, the way that it is. There's a lot of things that I would be like, no fucking way if it was written down in a sentence. But if I met that person and then it was dished out later, would you really care? No, but so I think that that's smart to keep it off.

So now in that four months before you met this girl, did you hook up with any guys? Yeah, yeah, I did. You know, I was trying to part of my bisexuality and from what I know a lot of other people, how they experience bisexuality is, you know, experiencing strong bicycles, you know, going or if not strong bicycles, just bicycles, going from being attracted to, you know, a ton for a little while and then later being attracted to women like a ton to the point where it's like I'm just not even interested in you know any you know porn links that pop up that will be if I'm really into women and I see something from one of my you know kind of sex social media sites that's like

gay porn I'm just like scrolling right past it I'm not you know it's it's not something that I'm interested in at that point. And same thing, vice versa. So at that time, I was going through different bicycles and I wanted to figure out like, you know, how my attraction works. So I was trying to, I was trying to date women. I was trying to fuck women. I was trying to fuck men at the same time. And I wound up hooking up with with a few guys at that time, still confirmed that I loved it. I went out, you know, basically I would hook up by going out to, you know, I was on the gay dating apps or gay hookup apps. And then I would go out to like the adult bookstores or bathhouses and, you know, meet guys there and hook up with them there. So there were a few guys.

And did you ever go all the way? Did you finally do that then? Yeah, yeah. You know, right when I started kind of exploring my doctor, he put me on on prep. What's prep? So prep is pre-exposure prophylaxis. I think there are a few medications, but the major one is Truvada. And so that prevents, you know, if taking as directed, it basically prevents you from contracting HIV. Oh, wow. You know, the wonders of modern medicine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's amazing. So you went on that because you knew you were going to go play around and you were going to try, you know, you were going to be, you're a bottom, I'm assuming, correct? Yeah. Yeah, I am, yes. Have you tried? Have you tried to be a top?

Yeah. Actually, on my most recent hall pass, a guy, he asked for a blowjob through the glory hole. And he asked, he wanted to give me a blowjob. And I was just starting my day out. So I knew that, okay, if he gives me a blowjob and it's really good and I come, I'll still have enough time to spend the rest of the day out having a good time fucking with other guys. And so he starts giving me a blowjob. and then there's a pause and then I feel, you know, something different, but I didn't realize it for a minute or two where I was like, oh, he expertly, very expertly, got to get a quick switcheroo. Oh, my God, it's no longer a mouth. It's no longer a mouth. Oh, my God.

Yeah. So, but generally I have a hard time getting hard with guys. So, you know, when I'm with guys, I'm more of a bottom. Oh, interesting. Okay. So how was that experience for you the first time you actually bottomed, though, that you really liked that, right? You knew that you liked that before because you were always doing anal stuff with yourself, right? Yeah, yeah. I'd known it from my own kind of solo play. And the first time I, you know, bottomed for a guy, I knew that I loved that too. The guy, it was at the bathhouse. He had a huge dick. He was walking down the hallway with a, his, you know, at the bathhouse, everybody just kind of has their towels and is walking around. He had his towels kind of slung over his shoulder. It was right after I got to the bathhouse and I had kind of done all my preparing and left my room and I see this guy walking down the hallway just with this huge dick. And I was just insanely turned on by that, you know, made eye contact with him, brought him back to my room. And yeah, he was able to, we were able to, we were

able to make it work. And, you know, I'm kind of a size queen myself. I like, you know, I like, taxable. Yeah, but remember you told me when you were younger, the only memory you have is when you looked over and saw your friend's big dick when you were little. Remember? That was like one of your only visions that you really have any kind of inkling. It's that you notice, whoa, he's really big. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, it's definitely stuck with me. You know, I'm equal opportunity. I enjoy all penises in my, in my mouth and in my, in my ass. But, you know, I'm drawn to bigger dicks if I, you know, if I had my preference.

Right, right, right, right. That's common. I mean, that's how, like, I would roll too. But anyway, so wait, so now you meet this girl. You meet her on a regular dating app. The second time you're, like, on a date with her, you put it out there and how does she react? Yeah, she reacted well to it, I think. It didn't, like, stop the date or anything.

She wanted to keep hanging out. And, you know, I think she took it like it was a serious thing that I was opening up to her about. She wasn't, it wasn't just, like, oh, yeah, don't worry about it. But I think, like, I could see her consider it and take some time to think about it. But she is just kind of open to, you know, open to being with bisexual guys, I guess. So, you know, we've been together for almost four years now. Now, how old was she at the time that you bent her four years ago? She was in her mid-30s.

Oh, okay. So she's, and how old are you? So I'm basically her age, a little younger. Right. Okay, cool. So no kids or anything like that. She, you're both, because you know, you had said, looking for a family eventually too.

So, you know, you're still both young. You were married before, but no kids with your wife, correct? Your ex-wife? Yeah, correct. No kids with my ex-wife. My current girlfriend and I, we've talked about having kids. We've talked about, you know, getting married. And it's just, it's not the right time right now for us financially and, you know,

as far as making some career moves. So, but, you know, we're working toward that. So that's kind of down the road, I think. Right. So that's an option for you because I know that that's what you were looking for. I mean, you have met a really great, a really good person because this girl, you mentioned a hall pass. I mean, you get hall passes from her. You're kind of in an open, somewhat open relationship. What does that mean? Is it that you could sometimes play with guys if you want? Yeah. So she, shortly after we started dating before we got really exclusive, you know, I told her that I wasn't sure. whether I would need to have sex with guys again in the future. I wanted to be kind of upfront about that and not make, you know, a promise that I couldn't keep.

Yeah. And then like eight months or so after that, this was right before, right before COVID. So that was another fun time. But I, after a few strong bicycles going, you know, back and forth and, you know, strongly being attracted to men a few times there, I realized that I would need to have sex with men again and might need that occasionally moving forward. So I, you know, it took me, took a little while to build up the courage to tell her that. I thought that she was going to, you know, break up with me right then and there. And at this point, she'd supported me through a

lot. And, you know, we loved each other. So, you know, it was, it was tough to go into that. But she, you know, she said she was actually open to the idea of opening the relationship, thankfully and you know we spent the next few months working out the details but you know the details kind of involved you know she gives me a whole pass once every few months to let me fuck guys so I get a whole pass to basically take the whole day and go out and and fuck as many guys as I want so wow now in that time where you said that you were like feeling very attracted to men and you knew that you had to tell her that you needed to be with you. guys eventually, like you weren't going to be able to not just be with her. Had you played around

with guys during that time, or were you monogamous? No, I was monogamous during that time. I was, you know, I didn't want to have that feeling that I had with my ex. Right. So you brought it up to her before you did anything and she molded over. You guys went through all the details. What were the specific details? I mean, I know that it's like, oh, it went a couple months you could fuck guys, but was there anything else like, oh, you have to use protection or I, don't want to know about it. Yeah, she prefers that

I hook up anonymously like at the bath store or bathhouses or bookstore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a bath store. Bed bath and beyond. Yeah, bed bath and beyond. So she prefers

that I hook up at those places anonymously because she doesn't want me having any kind of ongoing relationships with any guys. She thinks that that might be a, you know, kind of an emotional threat to our relationship. You know, even though I kind of assured her that, you know, I'm not really emotionally or haven't been emotionally attracted to the guys. So she prefers that.

You know, I think hooking up anonymously is less of a threat to our relationship. And then, yeah, she wants me, she doesn't really care about details. Sometimes she will ask, but more often she just, she just, she. she doesn't ask. She just, you know, says that she's happy I'm home and just kind of confirms, like, that I did everything that we've talked about, you know, kind of followed our rules. And yeah, so that's, that's basically it. I get, you know, we don't have sex for, like, two or three weeks after I have a hall pass, you know, we'll still do, just in case, you know, I picked something up, you know, on these hall passes, I'm hooking up with, you know, you know, you know, 15, 20 guys sometimes. Oh, you're really slutty. Okay. So you're like, you make the most of your hall pass.

How long does your hall pass last? It's one day. Yeah, it's one day. You could be with 12 to 15 guys. Or, yeah, or more. You know, it's been, there have been hall passes where it's been more. There's been all passes where it's been less. But the hall pass is where it's been less.

It feels like, it feels like a waste, you know, waited months. And then, you know, I'm only getting like two or, three guys to hook up with. Some of them, you know, might not be that hygienically clean. They might not have great dicks. So, you know, sometimes it feels kind of upsetting when that happens. And after that happened on one hall pass, I actually, so I do kind of fudge the rules a little bit. I am on one of the kind of apps online just because I want to be able to set stuff up in the future just in case I do have. that, those kind of days that are kind of dead, you know, because otherwise, that's, I'm going

almost another year sometimes without satisfying that, that side of myself. So it hasn't been an issue so far. I'm able to kind of rationalize it in my head that I'm, you know, keeping in spirit with the rules. But, you know, she would probably be upset if she knew about that for sure. How come? I mean, how does she think, because you mean you're, you could be maybe tech, texting that person and it could it's not so anonymous yeah exactly there would be kind of an ongoing attachment or connection or something like that yeah listen she's smart to have that rule because whether you're in an open relationship with a bisexual person or a heterosexual person you know and they're seeing people without you playing solo you know there's a chance that all the stars can align and you meet

somebody that you caught feelings for if it is an ongoing thing or you're texting that person a lot. You know, so I think that that boundary is actually really good to have in place because you haven't had feelings yet for a guy. But what if you were seeing one guy a lot? You don't know, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, I think that that is possible and it's something that I kind of need to wrestle with myself. You know, I'm I'm kind of dumb. being feeling guilty about what I need. So, you know, that's something that, you know, I don't want to rock the boat in our relationship because of my guilt. It does seem like it's a little bit more of a don't ask, don't tell. You know, I'm only doing these, I only get these hall passes when our

relationship is good. There have been times where I've asked like, hey, it's been a few months. can I plan out a hall pass here? And she said no because, you know, we haven't been doing that great. And so, you know, in the times where I am having these hall passes and there are only a couple guys that I've hooked up with on multiple occasions, you know, I'm in such a good place with her. You know, we both have, you know, we're both supportive of one another and we have a good relationship in general. You know, we communicate well about, you know, everything else. And we even communicate about this pretty well, too, I think. Right.

So you don't feel like you're emotionally available anyway for anybody else is what you're saying, right? Because I feel like sometimes I've had these kinds of stories that are like cautionary tales where people are playing solo and, you know, the other person winds up falling for someone else. But typically in those stories, there are a lot of red flags going on in their relationship. Yeah. are happening before that happens. You know, or I'll say the opposite way. Like, it's like typically there's problems in the relationship. And that's why there's like a window of opportunity there.

Their window is a slightly open for someone to jump in and catch their heart. Where I don't think that that happens in relationships where they are emotionally 100% committed. You know, so things are good with you guys. And I think so like, I actually think your girl's super smart because when things aren't good, she's like, uh-uh, you're not going out there. Okay. because maybe then that's the time that something could happen, you know? Yeah, yeah.

No, I think that she's gone about it in a pretty smart way. I think she's got some pretty high emotional intelligence. And, you know, I think that, like I said, we communicate well about all of that. Actually, that was a big thing when we were working out the details of our open relationship. Yes. You know, we went to a couples counselor to help us with that, but also to help us just with community. We were, you know, we'd been arguing a lot at the time and it was it was about stuff like, you know, living together. And a lot of it was just minor issues that just got bigger and bigger that we would get into these cycles and wouldn't know how to get out of them. But we both realized that we're both, you know, sensitive people and, you know, need to be our own kind of independent person from an emotional standpoint. We can't be, you know, co-dependent. depending on the other person's moods and trying to, you know, figure out when they're mad at us or not.

And that really helped us communicate better. You know, we stopped. We, you know, we'll have like any other couple, we'll have an argument every now and again. But it's been a while since we've had a real, real bad argument. It's been a couple of years now. So you're not getting your hall passes taken away. How many hall passes a year around do you? ask for? I'd probably ask for four times a year and she probably gives me three times a year right now.

Now has the whole pass for her ever come up? Yeah. So when we communicated this, I mean, the first time that I told her about it, you know, thinking that she was going to break up with me, I told her that she would be free to hook up with guys herself. You know, it's not exactly a one-to-one thing because, you know, I do have a dick. And when we have sex, she gets, you know, I am happy to give her all the dick that she wants. You know, obviously it's not the same if, you know, if she wants variety. But, you know, it's not exactly the same thing. She can't give me dick that I need. So, but and I told her that I would probably be jealous. It also turns me on a little bit to think.

about her fucking another guy, but she's not interested. So she said that she might be open to coming to an adult bookstore with me at some point in the future or like a sex club. But I've kept throwing that out there. She hasn't really said no and it sounded disgusted with it. But she's just kind of said, no, I'm not really interested in that right now. But she leaves it open. Yeah, that's pretty major because that means eventually, you know,

the wind might blow a certain way and she'll be like okay i mean you know keep keep every now and then keep trying because it's just a matter of time that she might take that step it might be a little scary for her you know that that kind of world is stepping into it but the fact that she's curious about it and said you know she might actually do it is is huge you can make that happen but you know it has to be on her time definitely yeah i'm not i'm not pressing her on that yeah and you know we're we're always kind of working on our sex life together, you know, one on one, too. So. But also don't forget about that. But also don't forget about as much as you don't press her. But also, you know, don't forget about bringing it up every now and then and maybe helping her to live out her fantasies.

Because maybe she does have some that she wants to live out. And you could, you know, be doing even more together. I mean, it's amazing what she allows you to do and that she's super cool about you going and living. your life and having your cake and eat it too, right? I mean, you really do. Yeah, I'm a lucky guy. You know, not all by guys are able to find a woman who will let them do this stuff. Yeah, but you know, why don't we tell you what I notice and this is what I believe and I think it's a pattern and I think it's two plus two equals four. Like, I think the by guys, the cross dressers, the any fucking guy or whatever. woman with something secret.

It's the ones that are honest about it or the ones who meet partners that are okay with it. And why I think that is true is that I think whatever you put out, you get back, you know? So if you're being honest and you're accepting who you are and that part of yourself, then you open yourself up to meet somebody who feels the same way and is going to accept you. You know, I think the people that don't find what they're looking for, the people that maybe are still on the fence and haven't accepted it themselves, you know, and I think that that plays a big part in why you were, have met someone. It's not luck.

It's that you were, you did the work. You, you know, you took a, like all those times that you were super honest about what you were into with your friends, with your ex-wife, with all these girls you want on dates. Like, that's scary shit. You know, you push through a lot of stuff. And you really made this happen for yourself. And so I just think that that's why you met somebody that was open, you know, because of who you are. Because you're open.

Yeah. Thanks for saying that. I mean, you know, it is what it is. I am just, I'm an open person. I'm an open book with my friends. And, you know, sometimes I often, I overshare. But, you know, people, I think, appreciate that about me. there are other people who are more closed off and that's just not me.

But yeah, it has been a lot of work to figure that out. So, you know, I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, because it's hard, you know, but that's just who you are and how you roll. And, you know, I'm the type of person that's like very real and very open with who I am, but I'm always like it's like, I think what it comes down to is your desire and your need for being you is stronger than your desire and need for other people, like being okay with it, you know? And I just think a lot of times it's backwards with other people, you know? Other people's desire for other people to accept them is so powerful that they're too afraid to do it,

you know, but you don't have that. You have to be who you are. You're one of those people that rolls that way. And I think that those kind of people are always a good example for other people, you know. I think not everyone's wired that way. you are. But people should look at people like you and be like, oh, that's what I should aspire to be like. I should be more honest, not only with other people, but with myself and then go from there, you know, and then be honest with other people because I think that that

comes back to you. And then you're going to wind up in that, you know, in the place where you really have the right person, like where you're at. I mean, you're only in your 30s. You have a woman who lets you hook up with guys. You have that to desire. Who knows where you'll be 30 years from now, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's just, you know, being true to yourself and living in the moments, living that truth in in each moment and not shying away from from that because of, you know, the discomfort it might cause. I mean, you know, other guys have, you know, I felt like I was kind of unlucky in that I didn't, I didn't explore, you know, I got married kind of young.

So I didn't really know that about myself fully until my ex and I got together. And, you know, it felt kind of like a little bit of a cosmic joke that, you know, it's shitty. I'm with this woman that I love that we're best friends. We have great chemistry. And, you know, we're passing these life milestones together. And, you know, but, oh, there's this thing that I just figured out about myself. But, you know, I did the work and got through it. There are a lot of other people who, you know, guys that I see online who tell stories about, you know, they've got, you know, multiple kids and they're, you know, they've been married for even longer.

They've been with this person for 20 years and they just figured out that they're by and, you know, should they tell their wife? Should they not tell their wife? They did tell their wife. She cried for a week straight, you know, asked for a divorce immediately. all that stuff. I feel like I was unlucky a little bit, but I wasn't as unlucky as those guys. Yeah, no, and you did say you felt like Spurred when your girl dumped you and divorced you, but I'm sure you look back now and you're like, oh, that was like the best thing that happened to you because you were ready to be who you were. You were and you didn't want to live a lie. She wasn't going to accept you for who you were. So she set you free. and that allowed you to meet the woman that you're with now.

Everyone's probably fucking happy. Is your ex-wife with somebody else now? Yeah, actually. So, you know, it's still, I don't know that divorce is something that, you know, it's like if somebody, it's like death, but the person's still alive. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, you know, they just, they decided that they don't want to be with you anymore. They don't want to live, you know, so that, I don't think that that pain, that.

kind of hole that, you know, I created this space for this other person in my life. And, you know, I don't think that that hole will ever go away, but it just kind of, you forget about it more, more often as time goes on. So, but as far as she's concerned, I mean, that was something that, you know, at a certain point, I remember seeing her social media and seeing that she's now with this guy that she worked with that we had been talking about opening up the relationship before this this before I cheated and she even she closed the door on that idea but in that whole conversation the boundaries that I had set were don't you're not allowed to hook up with you know this guy or we're not allowed to hook up with anybody that we work with or

or any of our friends. And at that point, she closed the door on it. She had told me in the past, it was like pulling teeth to get her to open up about her fantasies. She said that she only had one fantasy, and it was about a specific person. It was about this guy. So then I find out, you know,

a few months afterward that she's with this guy. I'm like, I know that person. Okay, that's fucking cool. So, you know, I was pretty pissed. And, you know, it frustrates me thinking about that moving forward. But, you know, I try not to think about it too much. I say, don't, don't. Listen, just go there.

Think about it until it doesn't fucking bother you anymore. There's no reason that you're still going to have a hole for her the rest of your life. Okay. I don't believe that. There doesn't need to be a hole forever. That's just dumb. You'll get over it. Don't.

The last thing, like, I think a lot of people think, oh, to get over things is you don't think about it. That's like the worst thing to do. And that's why those whole stay there. That's why there's people that have broken up with people 20 years later that are still fucking pining over it. You know what I used to do when I would break up with someone? Because I read this in a book and I listened to it.

And it's the best fucking thing. And I have no baggage and no feelings for anybody in the fucking past. You take you bring up, you try to think about them and everything and all of the hurt as much as you can. Okay. Because when you think about them, if you get sad, you're not creating a new sadness inside of you and making yourself depressed for no reason. What you're doing is tapping into the feelings you have that are inside you that you need

to fucking throw up and get rid up. And the more you do that and the more you get rid of it and the more you throw up your fucking sadness about them, eventually you are done. Okay? I used to put up pictures and make a montage and set a time for like I would just go there and be fucking depressed. I would play music, anything I could to bring up that memory to get fucking over them. and that's how you do it.

So don't not try and think about it. Think about it as much as you can until you don't give a shit about it anymore. And that hole that you have still for her is gone. Okay, there's no reason to have that for the rest of your life. That's not how people need to roll, okay? You're going to go on with your life. You're going to have kids. You're happy with this girl.

The reason why you're still thinking of that is because what you just said right there, I try not to think about it. No, think about it more. Get past it. Get over it and be done, okay, because it's over. No big deal. Best thing that ever happened to you and her. She wound up with who she was supposed to be with.

You're with like the greatest girl. You're so fucking lucky living your best life. So many bisexual guys are going to be jealous of you right now. And you just need to clean up that hole. That's my advice for you. Yeah. Thanks for that. That makes sense.

You've got to go through all the stages of grief. Yeah. Feel it all for sure. Yeah. It's like the exact opposite. Everybody tells you when you break up with someone like, do anything you can to distract yourself. It's like, no, it's like the opposite.

And you know who told me to do that? is that men are from Mars, women are from Venus guy, that guy, John Gray. Yeah, it was like in one of his books. He's a smart guy. He had those great books. He was very right on the money and he had some breakup book. I think it was him. And he said that. And let me just tell you it is like the best thing. And I think most people do the opposite. And I think that's not the way it goes. You actually think about it and get over it because 100 percent you don't need to be pining over someone for the rest of your life. That's to me, off. Yeah. Get over it. Four years. Yeah. It was it was tough in the moment like up until that point where I got upset with or where I figured out that she's with this guy. Of course. I'm not saying

not to be a human being. Of course you're going to get all upset and everything. All I'm saying is that you don't need to be upset for forever. You could get past it just by going there and really facing all of that and then moving on because you have a whole light. ahead of you. You have a lot of hall passes. Like maybe you and your girl are going to be swinging eventually. I don't know, but I love your story. I think you're a good example for a lot of closeted people. And thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story. Now, you know, I have a Patreon where people post picks and stuff and now I have a Discord channel where people could go on. You get in for free because you're a caller. I will give you a link there if you want to

go in afterwards and you could do whatever you want on there. I don't go into Discord. But if you could send me like anonymous picks for Patreon if you want, Guys do it now, too. It's cool. If not, no big deal. But send me those. Yeah, I thought it was only women. So yeah. Guys do it now. Harry sent me some. That guy that was on recently. People were drooling over him. Yeah. So anonymous picks. You could send that. Send it soon. And thanks so much for calling in, John. I love your story. I think it's good for other people to hear. I think it will inspire others. Yeah, I hope so too. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, really hopeful about that. Yeah, for sure. Thanks so much for calling in. Yeah, yeah. Take care. Have a good day. You too. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17,000. The book is basically

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