Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 633 - Fetish Friday: Tiffany Lace is a Submissive Crossdresser

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

Tiffany is a submissive crossdresser and she called in to talk all about it. When did Tiffany realized she into crossdressing? When did she realize was submissive? And, how honest has she been about her fetish to her partners? Tune in to hear all the details including how she felt the need to copy and imitate women at early age, how she started wearing her mom’s clothing and how she felt about it, how the thrill of getting caught played int dressing up, all the times she did get caught and how she felt, her attraction to dominant women early on and where it came from, how and when she told her first wife about her crossdressing and how she reacted, the drama they had in their marriage and why they got divorced, how and when he moved to Vegas and got married again, the crazy things he did in Vegas with his second wife, how he felt when he tried being cuckolded, how and why his ex outed him to his friends a co workers and how they all reacted, how being outed was hard but also freeing for him, his search for a lesbian dom and why that’s hard to find, how he met his current girlfriend and how she reacted when she found out about her crossdressing plus a whole lot more.  **To see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The link is in the description. So today I have on Tiffany Lace. Tiffany Lace is the slutty submissive cross-dresser. Who is into lesbian fantasies? And that is true. Tiffany does like to dress up. And when she dresses up, she's slutty. And she does like to hook up with women when she's dressed up.

Not so much guys, but women, dominant women. We talk about that. But what we start off talking about is when she realized she was into cross-dressing, when she realized she was into dominant females. That is the top of the mountain. her. When she's dressed up, she wants to be with a dumb girl. And she brings that back to something when she was very young and what she was into when she was young. And that's what we talk about. Like I said, when she first got into cross-dressing, when she realized she was into women, she's

married before the first relationship and some relationships after her were very drama-filled. She goes through all of that. She did a lot of crazy things with people. She had an ex-wife who knew she was across Chester. They moved to Vegas. They did a lot of crazy things there. She has been with guys. She talks about that, those experiences. But like I said, the thing she's into the most is a dominant female.

She is currently with a woman that she is dating. They live together. They didn't go in as dating partners. They went as roommates. Tiffany loves this woman. It's dying for this woman to be her dominant female. But the woman is currently confused. We end with that.

but what we talk about in between is all the other stuff that went on. There was a time where his ex-wife like outed him to his work and people found out what he was into. It was totally fucked up. There's some cuckolding there. It's super interesting. You're going to love this story. And I forgot to say, I'm going to tell you, because this is a cross-dressing episode, that I do

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Hi, Tiffany, Lise. How are you doing today? Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Thank you, Kathy. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure and an honor to be here. Yeah, I'm glad you're here. I mean, we were just laughing on.

that little intro. I'm not going to edit it out because you were telling me, oh, call me Tiffany Lace and I'm like, I like it. It sounds slutty. That's a perfect answer to it too. So it took me a while to come up with that name and I'll go on to about that later. But yeah, you can call me Tiffany. Yeah, that's your cross-dressing name, right? Cross-dressing, alter ego, the id, a lot of different things. But yeah, that's it. Yeah. Now listen, Tiffany, not only are you into cross-dressing, You're into cuckolding. You're into BDSM. You're bisexual.

You added in before we spoke that there's also a love story involved in this story. So we're not just going to be talking about your journey. You know, we're going to be talking about this quote unquote love story. So why don't we start like at the beginning. I would assume the beginning is when you first realized like you had the cross-dressing fetish and then probably everything will come after that. You know, it's funny to use the word fetish because I didn't pick up that word until later in life. But things started for me probably about 10 if I go back in time and grew up in Sanford and Valley in L.A.

And I'm the youngest of three. I have an older brother and an older sister. And once my mom went back to work, I came from like the Cunningham's. It was typical middle class in America. No dysfunctionality, no addictions, anything like that. Pretty normal cut and dry. But my mom went back to work and sometimes I was home alone. And I've listened to so many of your.

other guests and we all have a lot of the same stories. And I love how you say that, you know, that's one of the reasons you do this is because you want people to compare stories and know that you're not alone. And it's a wonderful thing. So thank you. But 10 years old and it's funny, I didn't realize this until about two weeks ago. There was a room in our house that we called the playroom. I never put two and two together due to the fetish and all the kinky shit I do.

How many playrooms is it a adult I've been in? Kind of have an ulterior motive, if you know. Oh. So looking back now, you believe that playroom was like your parents' playroom. No. That what you're saying? I tell you, it was more like a, it was a storage room, a big room. It was like an add-on to the house.

But when we bought it, they just called it the playroom. But that was more like a storage room. And so I found myself out there a lot digging around, just being bored and everything. And I know how you kind of ask questions. I like to throw something in real quick. You always talk about not so much early exposure to like, cornone and stuff, but for me, Sears catalog, garters, corsets, thigh highs, all of that, that would be probably one of the essence or the cornerstones of what's become a cross-dressing fetish.

And you mentioned BDSM and Cuckolding. You forgot to mention Vegas, but we'll get to that. Yeah. Well, there's a lot. You send me a long-ass email. Sometimes I don't read it all totally because I like to just, for it to be revealed and give my honest reactions right while as we're talking, you know, because. sometimes there's, I'm hoping to get a lot more than even what you put in there out on this

episode. We got a whole hour, right? So, so porn for you was that series catalog. I've heard that from plenty of people. I'm, you know, but it wasn't like porn like nowadays porn or like you're going to jack off or you're going to, you know, do a video or stuff like that. This was just, you know, age of 10, age of 11, there's a series catalog. And that was a big turn on.

And back then, cable was just coming out. It was, you know, HBO or on TV, and you had to be up late at night to catch an adult film. It was straight up softcore. But my first one I remember on that would be Lady Chatterley's lover. And that kind of got into a servant, like a maid, and her lady Chatterley, her mistress, I would believe. But does this all tie into Tiffany? I mean, like, when did you, what I want to focus on? Because, like, you're looking at that Sears catalog.

Now, am I assuming that what you were looking at was turning you on, not just because it was a woman wearing it, but you were turned on thinking about you wearing it? I think it was more like that would be the spark of curiosity about it. Yeah, I'll tell total curiosity about that. That would be like opening a damn flood gate, I would think, again, lighting the fuse. But if I look back in my memory, it wasn't even like a full picture of a woman wearing it. It'd be like a pencil drawing and it'd be like from the the rib cage down. That's the first one. But after that, it was always, I love the black and I love the white.

And once I saw this lady chatterly thing, I saw the maid and the servitude. And something about being the feminine and the wanted, the desired made me kind of, I don't make me want to honor and worship the woman's body and the woman's, you know, persona and her persona and her person. hour. So definitely started into the submissiveness of the cross-dressing at that point. Right. But you're talking about it as if you're from the outside looking in at the woman. I mean, on some level, you want to be the woman. Like, when do you start putting that together in your brain? I put that together of, okay, what's the next step? Probably around the age of 12. And that was out in the playroom again, finding when my mom's old, it wasn't like a ballroom

dress, but it was a long, elegant dress. dress, gold. And I remember putting on one of her bras and trying to put the fake tits in and I got oranges. That was smart. Listening to some of your other guests, I was, one thing I'm different on is I started makeup a lot earlier than a lot of them did. So I didn't really think about, oh, I want to be a woman or I want to change in a woman. It was more like, who I find that attractive?

And I'll relate something here in a minute when it got into puberty. but I could see then at like 12 wanting to at least copy or imitate at that point. Right. What you were seeing. What you were seeing and what we were admiring. Oh, yeah. You know, my oldest sister was a dance team and drill team and all that kind of stuff. So there was lots of short spirits and Cherokee wedge heels around and stuff.

And yeah. But you were doing this all on the DL, I'm assuming, like dressing up. Oh, oh, hell yes. Hell yes. Until I got caught. Okay, so tell me about that. But first tell me how you were feeling about all this. Were you just not even understanding that it was different or do you have an understanding

at that young age that this is something that was very taboo? And was that like a thrill? I think at 10, it was just curiosity. Yeah. At 12, it was more daring a little bit, even though I probably didn't want to admit it was secretive. So that was, I really didn't get, have close relationships with my brother and sister. So it's like a lot of time myself.

Yeah. So I think at that point more challenging and always, always cross-stresses and the subliminality of it all, we always have an excitable fear of getting discovered or caught. Right. So that's a part of it. Yeah. And you don't understand that. Definitely at 12. I didn't understand that that.

That it was my subliminal that was doing this. And not even knowing what. Which comes first. Maybe it's that adrenaline that you start to feel gives you such a rush. and then you become addicted to that adrenaline. Is it the actual cross-dressing or is it just that rush that you feel from anything that would provide you with adrenaline? People get addicted to that. You know,

the same as a person that jumps out of a fucking plane and is like, wow, I just felt crazy doing that. I want to do that again. It's like maybe it wasn't so much that that was doing it as much as the feeling that was attached and you got you got hooked on that feeling. You know what I mean, right? I know probably 50-50 of the way the things. felt wearing them. Yeah. The nylons and squeezing myself in my sister's shoes and stuff. And, you know, always like tight-fitting things. And I loved getting into corsets if I could ever

find a corset and things like that. And so for 12, 15, got caught a couple times. By who? The first time I got caught was, geez, talk about a day, probably 12 years old. I'm wearing this god-awful 70s, five different patch-colored dress. rest that for some reason I thought was attractive at the time. I'd been daring and going out in the backyard, which was since before, but this time I went out in the front yard. And this were close. Wow, you were naughty. I mean, going outside in the daytime? Yeah, daylight. Wow. Middle of the fucking middle of the fucking day. Wow. So you really like the thrill of maybe getting caught. Yeah. I think I also, I think I was cocky a little bit too, like, oh, I could get

away. They won't know it's me. It's some, it's cousin Susie or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I distinctly remember the parents, my mom driving. No, I think my brother was driving. Anyways, the station wagon coming down the street. And as soon as I saw the grill of the car, up and run in heels, probably the first time I ever ran in heels, back probably about 15 feet to the front door and I know I was saw. Run into the bathroom, start stripping everything off, trying to rub the makeup off. And my mom's at the door and she's crying and boom, boom, and she opens the door and it. After that, the phone call was made to my, father so now it's a family meeting two and a half hours later and goes down of mom crying dad

looking extremely disappointed my brother not wanting to be there my sister pissed off because i was wearing her shoes and uh and it's oh we're going to get to some help this is normal yeah yeah yeah it can't be any normal because i don't hear anybody else doing this and none of my friends ever talk about it blah blah so i'm crying my eyes out no please i don't want to go to doctor i'm thinking of him to go to a mental possible. So, but I'll stop, I'll stop, I'll stop. I stop. I hid. I try to hide it better. And that lasted about two years. And then I was discovered, I was caught, but I wasn't dressed at the time I was caught that she found some, my mom found some of my stuff. So that utter look of disappointment was horrible. So you kept continuing to get caught. But you couldn't stop.

I mean, and listen, we're talking, you're like in your 50s. So we're talking. So we're talking. a long time ago. Yeah, four decades. Yeah, so we're talking like this would be most people's experience, most cross-dress experience if their mom found them dressed up. Nowadays, I think it's very different. And I'm jealous of that. Yeah, I'm jealous of that in a way.

Yeah, of course. I think a lot of people should be jealous that they were born now for everybody. I tell my straight guy friends, like, you wish you would have been born now. You could have been fucking every girl that walked. Back when we were younger, you had to, like, date it. No girls would fuck you unless you were dating them. And bad enough that I'm self-conscious at this point, too. Yeah.

And I think this is where I started to realize what I desired with total heterosexual, have no bisexuality or gay thoughts at this time, really attracted to women. I started creating in myself what I desired in a woman. Interesting. So that's where Tiffany started to become. That's totally where it evolved. That's totally where the snowball got going. I really realized that right then.

Interesting. That was after you're getting caught, you mean? Like at that point. Yeah, this is right like middle of high school, getting ready to graduate and understanding that, yes, I'm dating. I'm going to prom. I'm putting this great facade up and everything. But I'm also just attracted to women and just really want to idolize them and not so much

be them at this point. Yeah. And I understand how the psychological part comes into it later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Okay, so you're dating women. You have no bisexual tendencies at that point. point, but you start to really feel like you, that woman that you're idolizing and you are getting

sort of closer together. It's just, it's, I could be somebody I'm not. You know what I mean? And it's an opening and it's, it is a freeingness. And I've come to love and understand as I've gotten older. But if I look back then, yeah, I think I, it was something, oh, I'm getting good at this. I'm getting older. I have more freedom now.

So. So it continue. Now, when you started to date, women, did you ever tell your partners? No. In fact, I was in drama in high school, and I had a toured, toward love affair with this girl named Christina. And I ended up marrying her. She ended up being my wife.

And we didn't tell anybody we were fucking after school, told nobody. And we would pass each other in the hallway and ignore each other, but then we'd go, fuck after school. So being in drama, we'd be in the costume a lot. she was the first person I put hints out to and I didn't ever tell her about the cross-dressing until after we were married. Mm-hmm. And.

And it was more of a game at first. I remember distinctly setting it up perfectly too. God, how narcissistic got me right there. What do you mean? Why? I think it was like, how do I breach the subject? How do I do this? But why do you consider that narcissistic?

Because you know what? I'm only thinking about myself at that time. And no, not really. You're actually thinking about your relationship, no? Because I think that sometimes the narcissist would just keep that shit to themselves and do whatever they want and not. And I remember you having a conversation with a previous guest about that. I think now maybe I look at it narcissistically back then maybe because a lot of this stuff, Kathy, you have to understand. I did not realize emotionally or mentally at the time.

This was, hey, this feels good. I want to do it more. It's kinky. It's hot. It's getting hot. I'm getting erotic. It's fucking the best orgasm ever. But with her, I decided to.

do, hey, you take too long to get ready. Why does it take a girl so long to get ready? I can get ready. Do everything you do a lot and half the time. No, you can't blah, but, oh, yeah, total. Oh, that's kind of a smart sort of get the ball going. That's a good way to start the game to have conversations about it. Also, at the time, I was opening up a can of worms because I didn't understand my

submitts my submissiveness versus my dominant role, too. This is really when I got into the mental aspect and the mind fuck of the dominant and submissive. I can't be with a woman. I have an average body slim. I can be very passable. And if I'm with a woman in a relationship to where she feels threatened on how I look better than her or something, it gets bad. It's bad. So, yeah, you'll hear more.

Just remember the name is Shell. I'll bring that one. Okay, okay. So you're telling you what. You start to open up. to this woman, your wife, Christina. Yes. And, you know, we, I'm working for Nordstroms at the time.

So I'm getting a lot of nice lingerie for her and stuff like that. And we play back and forth, maybe, you know, once a month for a while. And we go on through our marriage. And as time goes along, she starts to get jealous, I could see. And we never buy things for me or anything like that. I'm always wearing her stuff. So once the porn really came out with her. We married, have kids, moved away from LA.

I used to stay up late on the computer and really, this is right after the internet got doing. I would find harmony concepts or forced feminization, forced cross-dressing stuff to where a dominant woman could really put me in my submissive, feminine role and really be created. And Tiffany could really thrive because Tiffany just wants to be a submissive servant little slut. So that ended after she slept with my best friend, who was my business partner. Oh, your wife. Getting called a faggot and shit like that. So you opened up to her. You put it on the table.

She seemed to be accepting of it the whole time. But eventually when she got busted cheating on you, she threw it in her face. And I should have known. But before we got married, we tried to do a swap, like a swinger swap with her best friend and one of our other friends. And she's like, the best friend made a comment about me wearing a dress. I'm like, how the fuck do you know that shit? And she'd gone ahead and told everyone. Of course.

And I always thought, look, this is my fetish. This is something that makes me so self-conscious. I could go into serious depression. Yeah. But fuck, if you're going to tell somebody, at least give me a heads up, you're going to do it. But it should be me that fucking tells people. I always hated that. And it's haunted me a few times.

But I would think that it would be very triggering because, you know, getting caught like you did when you were really young and having your family, you know, having the, you know, having the way they reacted and you feeling like, oh my God, you're going to be sent to a mental institute. Like a situation like that is fucking traumatizing. And I think that that stays with you. So anytime anybody else would ever put you in that kind of position, I think it would trigger back to that time as well, right? Don't you think? Oh, totally. Yeah. I mean, that's nail on the head. Yeah. It's, I wish you, it's like I feel bad. I thought of this is a curse sometimes. I wanted to stop it lots of times. I felt like it was a cancer. Of course. But other times, I think,

Especially in the last two or three years, it's evolved. It evolved in Vegas because once I got divorced, I went to Vegas. And we'll go into that. Yeah, let's go into that. So 16 years or 16 months of depression. And in 2005, I moved to Las Vegas. I visited there, but I'd never lived there. Within 10 days, I'm totally looking up escorts and dominatrix and mistresses.

And where can I go do some shopping and things like that? this is Vegas. This is Sin City. It was beginning. A playground. Oh, let me tell you what. It is the kinky capital of the fucktown. I'll tell you that. You do some nasty.

It's a good slogan. I don't know if it's the Indian burial grounds or what, but you want to do some nasty, kinky, dirty, slutty things there, especially as a submissive cross-dresser. Yeah. And then, you know, then there's the lure of money with it. Mm-hmm. So tell us what how far did you go? I went as far as you could go.

Craigslist was hot, got married there to Michelle, who I mentioned earlier, who was a Scorpio from Florida, blonde hair, blue eyes, big tits. Very, could be the perfect dominant, could be the perfect mistress. But I was her fifth marriage. And it was just, it was about the sex. And we thought we loved each other. But I finally started because I told. her before we got married. I'm like, okay, I'm not going to do this again. I'm going to tell her. Yeah. So, and she was cool with it. And she wanted to explore. She had some lesbian experiences

earlier in her life. She also had some childhood trauma with her sister, which came back and haunted her a little bit. And it would get thrown up in my face a lot. But. Oh, you mean like molestation kind of stuff with a sister? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She got she got peed on. And supposedly like, Yeah, digitally raped and stuff like that. By the sister. By the sister, yeah. Can you believe the shit that goes down? I can't.

Yeah. Can I, okay, can I be, I'm not like I'm trying to be sick, but can I tell you one of the fantasies that Tiffany has? Tiffany totally is in the bondage. And she loves a good fucking, I've said, she's had rape fantasies before. A lot of girls have rape fantasies. Okay.

So across dresser saying that can say, can be taken the wrong way. so especially to a vindictive woman who should be your mistress but she's not oh you mean Michelle because when you're sure exactly exactly Michelle was the one who taught me how to suck talk Michelle was the one that basically I tried to expose her to being a perfect mistress that we could make money with me being the submissive her being the mistress and I would set updates I would be on the computer acting like I was her, typing everything like that on Craigslist and setting her up and getting her ready. This is the cuckolding thing too, right?

This is where the first thing for the cuck holding. Now, that was a big turn on too. But the problem was is I can't always put myself in bondage. And in order for me to get what I'm looking for, I need to be taken and tied up and handled. I mean, does that make sense that, you know, if I can get out, then you're not really doing your job. So because I'm going to struggle and I'm going to whimper. She used to love it when I would eat her pussy and I'd whimper while I was tied up. So, yeah, being the first cock holding incident, we found a guy on Craigslist who came over and she would like to get into the role as I was being subservent to our guests, so to speak.

As time got on, she got better with her knots, but this time she didn't. And she did something that she had never done with me with this guy. And I actually got triggered. So. So wait, this was the first time you're seeing a partner with another man right in front of you? Yes. No, this is the first time that I'm in a cuck holding position. Right.

We've had other experiences with other clients. But this time, she's like, well, what? you want to do. I said, well, look, my goal is to be, to be looked at and want to be fucked. I want to be tied up and have this person come in and you can do whatever you want to them sexually and see how wet that gets her. But she could never get me tight. But you want to be denied. I mean, because you're saying, because you're skipping over a lot of things. I mean, you went straight to Vegas. You alluded to the fact that you did everything under the sun and now we're at your first cuckolding experience. But I think what you're missing is.

what the story is missing is like all this you did a lot of stuff with her before you got to this cuckolding experience. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. But so I want to know what like why because if you've seen her fuck other people like you said clients quote unquote you guys are getting paid to fuck other people. You guys are getting paid to fuck other people. You're doing all these kinds of things. You know, I'm trying to figure out why in this experience the cuckolding one are you getting triggered.

Is it because in this experience you're being denied the pleasure and you're being like a true cuck being tied. up and you can't do anything in all your other experiences with her. They were like threesomes and swinger things and stuff. Like I don't understand the difference. Yeah, you're real close on that. Okay. What happened. Yeah, she'd been with people.

I've seen her fuck and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. She had never gotten on top ever in any experience we'd ever had with other people. So the fact that I don't get fully denied because I could get out of my binds. Do you understand that? The denial part of the cuck holding doesn't happen because, I'm triggered by cooking. Because she's still my wife.

I still love her and stuff. And now she's doing something that she's only done with me. Yeah, right. I'm just wondering why all these other experience didn't trigger you, but this one did. I don't know. Because I'll tell you this. Right now I have like no desires to do cuckold. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Was it after this experience? Yeah. Okay. I think it was a lot had to do with her too. But I know with the person I'm with now, I've never do that. Okay. It just there's no, there's no turn on on that anymore.

It was something I wanted to try. I did. And I tried it twice. And it just both times didn't go down. So. Yeah. So you know you didn't like it. You tried it. You tried to do the true cuckled thing. There was something triggering about it. Her being on top was the thing. And did that, like, break you guys up? I think we were already on that road, but it definitely was another nail on the coffin. Okay. So I actually moved away. We were getting divorced. She never signed the paperwork on time. I moved to another state. Believe it or not, about a year and a half ago, I got back together with her to try. because I was in a good spot in my life and I'd been very successful professionally and I'm like, well, let me fix my mistakes.

And, you know, we did love each other. Let me see what I could do. She was still in Vegas. I pulled her off the streets of Vegas, flew her up to where I was at. We gave it a year, did some more stuff. And she threw me under the bus with my work and showed pictures, said pictures to my bosses. All kinds of shit. Wait a second, though.

What triggered her to do that? Like, what was going down? in your relationship that she was so angry at you that she felt to like revenge fuck you in the worst way possible I think that she thought the only reason I bartered back up was because of my finish she she could never let me prove to her what I wanted to do overall yeah she was always the best I thought at the time or the person I had the most experience with regarding my cross-dressing and the bondage and the toys and the fucking and the sucking and all that kind of stuff but she's just too angry of a person she couldn't let me serve her. She had to be very degrading all the time, even when it's not in the fetish.

So there was a lot of extra drama that went on. And I understand now that I've been through all of this, all of these sexual escapades and wanting to be raped and walking two and a half miles on the Vegas strip and heels and just all kinds of things and all these experiences because of where I'm at now. Yeah, but I just want to go to that place where you go back to her, you're with her, and you guys get in some sort of fight that and she winds up emailing your bosses and your work, pictures of you dressed up and she like basically outs you to people.

Like what happened at that moment that made her do that? There was a fight. Yeah, there was a fight. It was pretty much, I was a truck driver. I had to put in a lot of hours. Her daughter was living with us. And her daughter understood my cross-fishing a lot better

and was more accepting of it. Michelle used to be like oh well he only wants this who only wants that and her daughter would be like no you can't fucking see this going on the bottom line is uh we were arguing and yelling and an aerosol can came across the room clipped me in the head so at that point uh cops are going to get called and uh i just decided you know fuck that shit i can't go through this again i went through nine years of it i gave it a year up here and that was it she she was always jealous i think she was always so you left her and that's why she's why she's I'm still not getting like the clear answer. Yeah. You're giving me every other explanation than the answer of why she got met, why she sent stuff to your work. I don't know why I'm stuck on it.

Nobody fucking probably cares, but I do. Remember, I brought her from the streets of Las Vegas. She had nothing. So I had my truck was the only vehicle in the family and I took my truck and I bailed. Okay, so you left her and then she was like fuck you. I'm going to ruin your life.

You ruin my life. I'm going to ruin yours. Okay, I get it. Now I get it. Okay. So that was the end of you and Michelle. Yeah, that was the end. And it was the end of my job, too, because I was getting, well, I mean, it lasts about another two months maybe. And I'm like, fuck this. I can't do this.

I went to the bosses. I said, look, you guys know, but, you know, talk to the fucking crew. We don't need to be bringing this out in front of fucking customers and shit. So I said, something's going to happen. I said, I'm either going to pop somebody in the fucking face or something's going to be said or I'll see you guys for sexual harassment or not fucking covering what you need. need to do. I've come to you in a private conversation. I mean, you could have, you could, I mean, what she did with it is, I mean, that's like slander. I mean, you know, she ruined your life by outing things about you that was no one's fucking

business. I mean, you could have went after her, but like, what would you have gotten out of that? But that's horrifying. I just wanted to run. I just didn't want to be anywhere near her because in a way, I thank her now because Tiffany really came into herself after that. It's like I had to face that other people would know. Oh, okay. Interesting. Some of my closest friends were like, she told them before I even knew that the

She outed you to fucking everyone. I found I found that she out of me like the first two weeks she was up here and I never knew that. Well, I'm glad I harped on this because this is a very pivotal moment then for you in your life. Because you become Tiffany now is there's no place for her to hide, no reason anymore. There's none. It was such a freemful. moment. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, fuck this. And so for about four, six months, the last year was when all this pretty much went down from July 4th. And then I went on kind of on like

a wild Tiffany binge to where I drove across a couple of states. And I was going to take a job down south. And Tiffany would come out at local hotels and things like that. Or I hook up with some people off of skip the games. And I was always trying to find a mistress. Always trying to a mistress. Oh, pimp me out. Let me make money for you. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll just totally want to be a submissive little slut bitch for the right, powerful, not so much dominating, but strong, possessive woman that understands and would love to get turned on by my fetish. So it's like a lesbian kind of scenario. And it goes right back to the first porno. Right.

Of the lady chatterly's lover. The French maid in the mist, totally. And all, and once puberty it hit, and the sexuality combined with the cross-dressing, then the female bondage, the female and female bondage, and the four-submization, boom, boom. So when you're Tiffany and you're being slutty and you're out there, you're not looking so much to hook up with guys dressed up as Tiffany.

You're looking to hook up with Dom females. If you want to go in order, dom female, I will be with a man. I have no attraction to man, but I will be with a man if my Dom female or my mistress, you know. wants you to it orders me to yes

and then after that it'll be looking for sissies or cross-stressers and maybe bottom of the barrel I better be horny as fucking fucking anything it moves I might find a guy

that if I'm in the right mood that's turned on by what's going on right it's rare okay that's like worst case scenario it's like I haven't fucking yeah

I'm tired of jacking off I gotta do something else okay all right so Tiffany goes on a fucking tear after you're outed how did some of your friends react though like what was the reaction i mean we know all the work it wasn't good but like what

about your friends these were all these were my friends okay so what happened a lot of them were out the door a lot of them i'm like look we can go outside and handle this because i told you stop fucking talking about it stopped making your fucking wise correct jokes yeah because i was angry at first still being defensive it wasn't like oh okay yeah but i only had one true friend uh Travis that uh basically i didn't talk to you for a while and then he actually called me the other day So, yeah, he was always cool, but he was the one that she ratted me out to when they first got here because he's my best friend. So I've broken a lot of ties. And I'm glad I did because if you're my true friend, then you wouldn't be fucking around saying this kind of shit.

You'd be back in Mia because, you know, yeah, you know, it's my biggest, darkest secret. So, yeah. Yeah, interesting. But, I mean, the part of you that they knew also was a part of you. And that didn't change. I mean, they just know something else. It just added on. but it's not like it takes away from,

but yet people still see it that way. It's sad. And I've accepted that more now, too. And I think that's the best thing I've gotten out of this is, yeah, this is part of me. Yeah. I've always tried to separate it like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde or Mrs. Hyde, however you want to put it. Right. But they both exist.

I mean, let me ask you, in the perfect world, would you only be Tiffany? In the perfect world? Yeah. I've always said, in my next lifetime, I want to come back as a hot lesbian chick. Yeah. But I mean, if you. You could live full time, completely accepted, and you were, you know, would you be Tiffany always, or would you be Bob or Joe or Bill? What is the top of the mountain for you?

Oh, both. Both. It's funny because Travis engaged me with it once. He's like, I'm going to buy you a red dress for Christmas. I'm like, you fucking asshole. So, you know, I didn't think I could be that way with people. Yeah. Especially my close friends, you know.

I used to, I used to be a summer professional baseball empire. I remember I ran with some pretty tough dudes. Yeah. So, you know, and all that was hidden all the time. But now, I don't know if I'd tell people out of the front, but I'm also not going to be as closeted, I guess. And then I fall in love. So let's talk about that.

So Tiffany's on a roll. I thought I was going to go down south to take a job. And it fell through. And I came back to where I was up in the northwest. And I got rid of my apartment, so I'm kind of couch surfing for a minute. And then I run a broom. And I had had had out on Craigslist while I was couch surfing. And I said, hey, I'm handy with tools.

I'm a professional truck driver. I'm taking about six months off. I'm looking for a place to stay if you've got a room for rent, blah, blah, blah. And I'm funny. I know how to cook. I know how to dance. Definitely want a female roommate. So Craigslist ads runs for 30 days.

It's day 29. And I get a text. And I'll call her Tyra. Tira's like, oh, my God, I'm in such trouble, blah, blah, blah. My contractor just quit on me. And I don't know what to do. And I'm in tears and I'm like, who the fuck is this chick? Because believe it or not, I had gotten catfish the day before.

So I thought it was the same chick. So I'm like, yeah, okay, well, I'll meet you. Blah, blah, blah. And she's like, well, what's your name? And I use a fake name. And I call her the next day and I give her my real name. And she's like, well, that's some of you sick name was. Anyways, we end up meeting.

We talk for like three days before we meet. And she's the tinkerbell. That's the tinkerbell connection. when I say Tinkerbell motivation, I made that up. Okay. I met this woman who was about five foot four, about 110 pounds, beautiful, just absolutely have anything I've ever wanted, everything, personality to go with it. She's in a true life Tinkerbell, literally just awesome and just so special and just an absolute

breath of fresh air. And for about the first six weeks that I moved in. in and we're roommates. We're hanging out and all kinds of stuff. And she gets sick and it's like 1.30 in the morning. And she's laying in the hallway, just barely whimpering my name. She's in so much pain. She had some stomach problems.

And she couldn't get around. And I walked in and swooped her up, picked her up my arms and carried her into the bathroom. And she's like, have you ever done an enema? And I'm like, what? So, yeah, she wanted me to give her a coffee. I'm a Libra. I'm a lover. Okay. I'm very sensual. And so I prepared a coffee enema for her and here's the servitude. This is the Tiffany side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even you see where it's going?

She's going to be bending over in your face any minute. Oh, no, no. She's, you know, yes, exactly. We're in the bathroom on the cool tile. I've cooked up coffee. I've got, you know, the tubes running, everything like that. Oh my God, you're a lesbian enema fantasy. It's kind of and not just that, but then I'm throwing in a nice massage too. Okay. So, oh, I'm totally lover. Oh, I'm such a lot. I would rather please the woman than please myself. Believe it or not, I swear to God. That's just, it gets me, it doesn't give me off, but it just gives me true comfort and mental orgasm, I guess. So that weekend goes by. It's a tough weekend and stuff, but she heals up a little bit and she pulls me aside like two days later and says, you know,

I look at you differently now And I said, well, good Because I fell in love to you the first time I saw you. So it sparked right there. And we, I courted her. We didn't kiss until New Year's Eve. We didn't sleep together until right after that.

And it was about the second time after we slept together. And she's awesome in bed. It's a fucking great fuck. How old is she, by the way? She's 15 years younger than me. I'm 55. She's 40. Okay.

That's a good spread. It is a great spread because she, teaches me so many things right now and I teach her so many things. Yeah. Such a fucking balance. Uh-huh. It's such a balance. And I'm like, I got to tell you though.

I'm fucking terrified. Of course. Of course. I'm about to fucking jump out of the plane with no shoot. But no, but there's, I've never felt like this before. Right. Never. Never.

And I'm, I'm a smart guy. I got 132 IQ. I'm smart. Yeah. And I know, I know what's going on besides my fetish, but anyway, yeah. Well, because listen, you're like, this is like, Like it was like love at first sight. That was like one of those kinds of like kind of attractions, right?

Like the minute you saw her. And and you know, throughout my baseball career, three strikes you're out. Right. Oh yeah, you're right. I do a lot of numerology stuff. Things coming three. Yeah. She's in Aries.

I'm a Libra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lines up perfectly. Yeah. I'm like, I'm terrified. Wait, let me just tell you. I'm an Ares and I love Libra and Ares is the perfect match for sure. One hundred percent.

Yeah. Oh my God. Now you've spoken to her. she's already talked to you. You talked to her before. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Wait a second. She was that bitch that couldn't explain anything to me.

Wow. Wow. Oh my God, Tiffany. I already have her episode taped and I was like I wrote next to it can't use. She could not make fucking sense of anything. Well, look, she was going to be on today too. Oh, my God. She was going to be on today too, but I scheduled so it wouldn't happen like that.

So wait, doesn't she know? Yes, she does know. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So you were just explaining. in real time like you were petrified and about to tell her. Exactly. Exactly.

And I, for like a week, I'm like, look, I just, I want to tell you everything, but I don't want you to look at me differently. Okay. And so one day, I just, we were in the car and we're shopping. I'm like, and we've got a puppy now. So I got the dog in the car and I'm like, oh, I just got to tell you. I just got to tell you. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, you're not a child molester. You're not a murder. You're not wanted. I'm like, no. I spit it out and I told her and she didn't freak. she didn't freak she stayed exactly how she always was and a little bit smirk on her face and everything but it hasn't gone how i've wanted to go in a way she's now seen me dressed she i don't think she wants

to do anything sexually she's actually made that clear also because she's so used to my my male side and we click so well she's afraid that she will look at me differently if there's sexual intimacy between us with Tiffany. Yeah, yeah, right. Because maybe she doesn't have any lesbian tendencies. So this is another reason why I put in my email, I kind of want to stop.

If I can't get perfect, because it would be perfect with her. She is so submissive too that she needs to bring out her dominance eye. And I think Tiffany could draw that out of her. I really, really do. Well, listen, maybe someplace in between stopping and being

fully as much of Tiffany as you with your previous people. Maybe there's something in between where you don't have to give up Tiffany completely and she could let you be Tiffany. Yeah, I mean, that's most likely the most realistic thing that could, that would, you know, make this go the long haul. Yeah. Like, unlike other cross-dressers, mine is strictly oriented around sex.

Yeah. Okay. I won't, I won't do 24-7 unless I'm on really on a run or something like that. but if I can't have this with her I kind of don't want to do with anybody else anymore I don't want to even though she said if you need to go do this with somebody else I understand I'm like look at I think at that point you'll still look at me differently I might look at myself differently because I love you so much and I don't want to fuck this shit up she's suggested things she like she does a lot of donations she puts some clothes by the door yesterday and sent me in text she's like look there's some things by the

door that I wanted to offer to you before I get them away I didn't want to be rude and I'm like, oh, my God, she has no idea. She's fucking in my head. So I just, I'm a little, I'm like at this precipice of do I go after it? Do I stop and back off and go with the girl that's just going to make my dreams come through? And I've had, no, no, no, you don't need to be so extreme in your solution. I feel like if she has offered up to figure out some sort of compromise where, you know, Tiffany could still exist. and you guys also though can exist together

but maybe Tiffany's not always there in your intimate relationship like maybe that can work you know and why not why not try to make that happen especially if she's down and offering it what I remember from your girls conversations besides the fact that

she couldn't tell a fucking story and she sounded like she was so full of shit but it was so such a crazy story that I'm like no it didn't even make sense to make it up like no one could actually lie like that I was like it has to be the truth She told me you said that, too. But it was so nonsensical that I'm like, I can't.

There was a letter she wrote to you, the original email she wrote to you. Yeah. Was fucking vicious. Yeah. Was vicious. And I got pissed at that. She told me that. I'm like, fuck, you threw me on the bus.

This wasn't even your idea. This is my fucking idea. And then your email and her getting a set up. She didn't tell me she was going to talk to you until a day before. Right. So I'm like, I'm like, what are you doing? I said, this is all the same shit that my ex is. done and stuff. I said, fucking, I told you. Yeah, but she was. There was something lovely about her.

And I did not feel like she was coming from any kind of negative place. I felt like she was so nice to hear you. Yeah, I felt like she was coming from a place of trying to understand and gain information so she could be more clear because she was trying to wrap her head around something because she just met a guy that she liked and she was like confused about it. But she, didn't want to, you know, throw you to the curb. I mean, that's what I remember getting out of it. That's awesome. That's awesome.

I mean, isn't that what you think? And I think with what's happened since then, and I see, I just kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel, maybe. So what has happened since then? And what's the light at the end of the time? And see, this is another thing is I tell her, too, I said, you kind of a lot of housework to do around here and shit. And, you know, why don't you ask Tiffany to do that?

And so the other, because, no, she's really into, like, motivational. videos and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She pulls a lot of stuff off of that. So she likes to have something dictated or somebody who press pause and take notes and stuff. So I'm trying to get her to use Tiffany. Yeah, smart. In that situation. And at the same time, you know, she's seen me tied up. She's seen me tie myself up. I've seen the curiosity in her eyes. I'm not stupid. But she's just, I got to find a way that if I can sexually motivate her like this. Well, listen, maybe it'll take a little time. It doesn't have to be right away.

I think if you both are open to allowing time for the other person to get to where they need to be, this can work. You know, she needs to give, you know, you need to give her time to come around to being not only open to it, but actually interested in it and turned on by it. even if it's once every two months or so, you know, and she needs to allow you to maybe help try to get her there, you know, but I mean, I just feel like you both have to think of the other person and accept where the other person is at, but there's no reason to go to any kind of extremes in your relationship where you have to shut down Tiffany or she has to completely not date you because she can't accept it. You know, I, I, I, I, that why do that? You know what I mean? You both finally met somebody that you both like. Listen, if she's an Aries woman, she's not a great catch for most guys, okay? I'm an Aries girl.

Most guys would fucking chop me up and put me down the river, okay? That's why I'm not married because I know I'd be murdered because I have a fucking mouthpiece on myself. You know what I mean? Like Aries girls, it's hard to find a guy that could really deal with you. I, that's why I always like Libra. The perfect match. They're hard to come by, you know, so what, you know, as much as she's that, oh, girl that you knew right away on some levels she probably feels the same way for you so she's not

going to throw you to the curb but women aren't wired that way when we finally meet a guy we actually really like we have a lot of hope and we try really hard to make something work so I believe that you know she's uh I think you have to know that she has that in her and there's no reason for you to feel like you like can't be Tiffany and you can't make this work somehow to make you both happy does that make sense did I just confuse things No, Doc, you hit the nail on the head, I think. Okay. I do see hope and I do, there's been conversations and even if it's just little things and stuff.

And he went out and wore wig shopping the other day because she needs to learn how to braid hair and stuff. So it's just, there's little things. And I think she's also, she's initiating some of them, which gives me hope and it makes me excited and stuff. So. Yeah, listen, with your 130 IQ, figure out a way to make this fucking work. I think it was smart. of thinking about like using Tiffany in those kind of ways that would actually be helpful, you know, for her. Yeah.

And just in everyday life, but also turn you on. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? That's a smart solution. I know. I'm trying to help me with the makeup. Because she's such an artist.

She's like, in her style is just insane. Yeah. It's like, God, can you teach me how to do that? Can you pick an outfit for me? I mean, should I air her on. edited episode right into this at the end so people could hear. I don't know. She asked me to ask you this. Yeah. That if you wouldn't mind giving her another shot, she would love to talk to you again. Yeah, I think people would love to hear her. Yeah.

Okay. That would be great. All right. Awesome. Awesome. Thanks. I love this story. It's so interesting. It's so hilarious that this was that this story she told me was true. I did believe it, though it just sounded unbelievable. So I'm glad you confirmed it. And now it's going to be. be like a fucking great, interesting episode, you know, because... You got it, Kathy. Thanks so much. All right. Thanks so much. All right. Bye.

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