Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 637 - Renee and her Husband Started Swinging with Their Neighbors and They've Been Swinging Ever Since

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Renee and her husband Neil (episode #628) are swingers and she called in to talk all about it. When did they decide to start swinging? Who did they start swinging with? And, how Farr do they go when swinging? Tune in for all the details including her first experience hooking up with a female friend in college and exactly what went down, how her and her husbands dirty talk and fantasizing helped open them up to the idea of playing with other, how their neighbors invited them and another neighborhood couple to a swingers resort and exactly what went down there including the boob cruise and the squirting contest that they attended, the rules they decided on putting in place for themselves and why, their second trip to a swingers resort and their first hook up with another couple and exactly what went down, how and why she loves starting with the female partner when swapping, how and when they started hooking up with on of their neighborhood couple and exactly what went down, how she felt seeing her husband with other women including her neighbor, their first full swap that took place at a swingers resort and exactly what went down, the public sex they have had at the resorts and why she loves it so much, why they don’t really enjoy house parties, what they love about hotel take overs and what exactly goes down at them, how and why her husband’s hook ups with other women helps her be better in bed, how and why being in the lifestyle has helped their intimacy plus a whole lot more. For all the Lifestyle info you'll ever need, check out their website: https://www.temptedpineapples.com  **To see anonymous pics of RENEE & her husband NEIL plus pic of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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swinging and they had been swinging ever since I think was the title of episode 628. I asked Neil at the end of that like I need to get your wife on because she had started hooking up with women for the first time in their relationship and so I told him at the end I'm like let's have your wife on and hear this whole story you know from the the female perspective. And it's just as fascinating, if not more so, to hear from her because Renee gets into it all. First, we do talk about her hookup with another female, her first female hook up when she was in college. She did have a little experience. Well, a lot of experience. I mean, she went all the way with a girlfriend when she was in college. That was her first time with

a woman. And then she talks about how her and her guy, Neil, her. Her husband Neil started swinging. It was a neighborhood thing. There was three different neighborhood couples in this story. Two were newbie couples and then a professional couple. They were in the lifestyle already. They all took a vacation together and she talks about exactly what went down, what that first experience was like and why it was so helpful. They just kind of observed, but she talks about everything that she did observe and how horny it made her and how it was super helpful for them to get all their rules and stuff in place. And then they came back.

They started hooking up with the other couple. She started to hook up with the female in that couple. And then they all sort of soft swapping with each other. And she talks all about that. She talks about soft swapping on their second vacation trip. She gets very specific about what went down. She prefers to play with the female first. She's very into women.

They eventually did decide to full swap. And she's very into seeing her guy with other women. She talks about their reclaiming sex. That's always super hot. She tells a lot of super hot stories of them swapping and full swaps and soft swapping in front of people. She's an exhibitionist. She loves people watching her. People do watch them while they've been on a lot of these vacations that they've gone to.

She gives, like I said, so many more details about what they have done. all the hookup scenarios. She talks about how they've gone to some house parties as well as hotel takeovers. She talks about why she prefers the hotel takeovers the most, why she prefers them over the house parties. And then she talks about, like, you know, what opening up their marriage has done for their marriage. It's only helped them and made their relationship stronger.

She also talks about their website that they created, which is great. I really talked it up on Neal's episode. I talked it up again here. It's called temptedpynaples.com. That's temptedpynapples.com. All the information you need about the lifestyle is on their website. I will put a link to it. You want to know about all the resorts that she's talking about, cruises, dating sites, the best podcasts to listen to, including mine. Everything is on their website. It's all the information you need right there. Oneplace, tempted pineapples.com. That link will be in there. But you're going to love. hearing from Renee. You're going to love all her details. She gets very specific. It's super hot.

If you want to see picks of Renee and Neil, go over to my Patreon. They're a hot couple. Okay. She does not disappoint. If you want to see anonymous picks of Renee and Neil, go over to my Patreon, patreon. patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. But you're going to love her story. So I'm going to be right back on with Renee. Hi, Renee. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Great. How are you, Kathy? Good. I'm excited to have you on because I had your husband on recently, Neil. Yes. Episode 628, the title was Neil and his wife started swinging with their neighbors,

and they have been swinging ever since. That is correct. Yeah, and so I really wanted to have you on, because I feel like, you know, I always love getting the male version of the story, as well as the female version of the story. I think it's always interesting to hear even the same. story from both sides. The interesting thing about your guy's situation, and we'll just give a, like, spoiler alert, if you haven't listened to Neil's episode, you're going to find out there was

a little twist to the neighbor thing because you guys were like all swinging with two other neighborhood couples, right? But you and one of the couples were like cheating on one of them together. Like it was a little complicated but funny, you know, we'll get to, we'll get to that. But, and then you also, what was great about, Neil's story, and he talked about, and we'll pitch it again here in the beginning, and we'll end on it, is you guys started your own swinger website. It's really great for newbies, I think, or even people in it, because you took all of the information that a swinger would need, like everything.

You have every category on there, and you, like, put links and put your recommendations for all the different categories. It's called temptedpinepins.com. I'll put the link in your episode as well and we'll talk about it towards the end of that podcast. So now listen, Renee, you not only did you start swinging with your husband, you also like for the first time hooked up with women and stuff, correct? Was that the first time that you did fool around with a woman when you started swinging?

Well, I had had some experience in college as well. Oh, that's like the typical story. It's a college. Yeah, I know. But like your college, but let me ask you this, Renee, because sometimes people's college experience is like, oh, we all got drunk and we like made out and I felt her tits like over her shirt, you know, or like, or did you go all the way in college? I went all the way with one person. Oh, okay.

I give you credit because a lot of people are like, oh, you know, there was a certain point in my life where it became very popular for girls to hook up with girls, you know, and like every girl was like, oh, I have a girl crush. I'm like, yeah, but like, would you go down on a girl like, now, never. It's like so that you don't really have a girl crush. So you did everything though. Like what happened in college? Like how did that happen? And who was it with? So it was with a friend of mine.

And then she just got more into it than I did. And it was more of the thing that I think that she was wanting more. And so at that point, I felt like it was not a good relationship for us for me to lead her down that path. Well, because it was like physical, but she started to feel emotionally for you. Is that what you're saying? Correct. Yes. Okay.

But like how did it turn physical? Like this was like a really good friend of yours in college and like how did you wind up like hooking up? And then it sounds like you might have hooked up more than once. That is true. Yeah. So we went on trips together. Okay. So we would go on trips together and we would obviously share a hotel room together.

And one thing would just lead to another as we were getting ready to go out or when we came back. And when we would go to bed, we would just sneak into one of each other's beds. Not really sneak in. You're like terrible Italian store. Okay. know you're terrible at telling stories. I really want you to walk me through that first experience how two girls who are friends, I've gone on many vacations with many girlfriends, right? We all have that girlfriend and, you know, you stay in the same room and I've slept in the same room. And

one thing has never led to the other, okay, with me with most of my friends. And so we want to know, how did one thing wind up to the other that first time? Like, what happened? Were you guys drunk? Did somebody say, oh my God, you look hot, you looked over? Like, how did it change from girls traveling together to girls going down on each other. So, yes, so we had been drinking, but we weren't drunk. Yeah, yeah. And we were just talking. And then she said, why don't you just coming into my bed and I'll give you a massage?

And I said, okay. So I went into her bed. She started massaging me. And then we started kissing. And then we moved on to the boobs. And then she went down on me. and that was the first time any girl had ever gone down on me. Yeah.

And so that was an experience, but it was great. And then the next time we went on a trip, we would, it would automatically just, I would go into her bed, and then we would just start. And then I went down on her. And it didn't happen a lot of times. It happened once or twice, it happened twice. So I just didn't want to go any further after that. because, you know, I didn't want to lead her on because she was getting more emotionally involved than I was.

So the rest of the trip you didn't hook up at all? It was just that one time, but like, was it uncomfortable? Correct. It was uncomfortable for me, but not for her. She had been with girls before. So it wasn't uncomfortable for her. So she was kind of giving me my space and thinking, okay, maybe she'll come around to it or maybe she'll open up to it. And then I just never did and the way that she wanted me to. But she had a way of making me feel very special and very beautiful. So that part was very intriguing to me.

And the part that you feel, you know, wanted and loved. And like they, women know exactly what other women want. Oh, so she was good when she went down on you is what you're saying? Yes. Yes. But what about when you went down on her? Like, was that uncomfortable for you? Did you really enjoy it?

Like, what was that experience when you were the one doing? it for her. I did enjoy it because I like pleasing people and I like getting feedback. And so I think that it can differ from every girl. I think that or anyone, as a matter of fact, now that we're, you know, in the lifestyle, like I think talking about it or moaning or given some kind of response, like, you know, even now, like when I'm with someone in the lifestyle and I don't get a response, it's just not as appealing because you don't know if you're doing it right or if you're getting the right spot and then afterwards they're like oh that was great and I'm like well you would have told me that while I was actually doing it I would have been greater because you just feel more confident when

someone's doing that but that's the way she was with me when my first experience she you know was moaning and very appreciative of everything I was doing and it made me feel good it made me want to do it more because she was receptive to it and yeah she was having a great time so um yeah so that's what was the big turn on for me it was very awkward and unfortunately we are no longer friends. So it did ruin your relationship, your friendship. Because you knew at that point you didn't have any kind of romantic feelings for women, but was physically attracted to them?

Correct. I knew that I loved the cock away too much. And so at that point, and it was all real new too. I mean, I remember this was, you know, 20, 25 years ago, 20-some years ago, so even 30. So like it was just at that point you feel like you have to pick one or the other. There can't be like two. Like right now in the lifestyle, I feel like I get the best of both worlds. But back then you're like, I have to choose like what I want to do.

And I have to make a decision right now. And so it was kind of like, no, I like the cock. This is what I want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it winds up so many years later, you really realize you could have all different things. But you're right. Like 20, 30 years ago, there was like two places you could be. Well, there was.

bisexual in the middle, but it was like you're either straight or you're gay and there's nothing else, right? So you felt like you had to make that choice. You knew you weren't gay. You wind up marrying Neil. You had no other hookups with women though, right? After, besides that friend in college? No. And no other like alternative stuff with guys because, I mean, now you're in the lifestyle and you're doing all kinds of things.

But like, like, did you ever have any threasms with two guys or anything like that? Nope. So, okay. So then you meet. Neil, right? Now, from your, like, how did it work that this whole swinger thing came up? Like, I forget, I talked to him, you know, I talked to like 10 people a week, so I'm just always having him like that. So you tell me the story of how you guys decided to go on that first swinger vacation. So we have always been the type of couple where if someone walks by,

Neil will say, wow, she's hot. And I am not that ever the type that gets jealous. I would just say, what makes her hot? Like, is it her ass? Is it her stomach? Is it the way she's walking? Is it her demeanor? Like, what's hot? So it turns me on to hear him say those kind of things.

So he would always say those things. And so then I would, I said, well, dang, I started doing it too. So I was like, oh, I could do that. That's something I'd like to do right there. And then so he would ask. Yes. And he would say, what turns you on? And then he is very good at putting things like in our bedroom like porn like sex toys.

And so that's where we had always started out with like sexual toys and porn. And then it got to the point where when we were watching porn, I wasn't getting off as much as the things that like the boy girl porn. And he's saying, you know, why aren't you? And I was like, well, I have that. Like I have that right now. I can do that all they don't long. Like I want something different. So then we started bringing in the threesomes.

And he would notice that when it was a lot of girl-on-girl action, I was getting really, really hot. Yeah. And so then he said, like, are you, you know, what old did you do in college? Like, what all relationships? And so I told him exactly what I did. And he's like, he's like, it seems like you could have wanted a lot more. And I was like, yeah, I think that if I had like a female, because with all the guys I'd ever had before him, they were just like, you know, I had one night.

stands and I mean I have no problem with like you know hitting it moving on yeah before I got married and so I feel like if I had a more female things like that and then it would have been a lot better so I just you know told him that and so then we started watching girl on girl and then he made a joke one time because we travel a lot and he's like what if we went to Vegas and I got you a girl and I just watched and I was like oh so we talked about that scenario yeah and he was like would you let me you know chime in I'm like well, I don't know. Maybe we would have to do it first and then you would have to watch me and then maybe say, you know, come in. We always talked about those kind of things, but nothing ever

happened. And then that couple invited us to the trip with them and then we went and then we asked a thousand and thousand questions. But it was always something that we had always talked about doing and exploring and he's really great at bringing stuff into our bedroom. And so we have never been shy about using toys and watching porn. I mean, we've watched, you know, we've watched, you know, we've watched rougher porn. Our neighbors do probably. But, yeah, it's just been, I mean, we just have a great sex life when it comes to, like, communicating with each other and talking about what we want and what we need and then actually

acting on it. Let me ask you a quick question. What I want to know is, like, did you, because I think women are very different than men. we sometimes pick up on things more so than a guy would. Like, did you have any idea ahead of time that your neighbors were swingers in the lifestyle before they brought it up to you, like, to go on this trip? Never. So you had no clue?

Mm-mm. Right. So now three different couples, you guys included all wind up going on this swinger vacation. One of the couples were already in the lifestyle. Like, they were the ones that just brought it up. you were all together? They brought it up. The guys were together.

We were at a joint Christmas party. Yeah. Like a neighborhood Christmas party. And the guys were talking about it in a circle. And then they came home and kind of talked about it. And then the next day we literally booked the trip because the guys talked the girls into doing this. Wow. But the guys had been talking about it the night before at the Christmas party.

So now you were close friends with the wives of the other couples as well, like you were close with them? Very close. Okay. Yes. So did you guys all get on the phone or like, oh my God, like we're going to do this or did you and the other girl? Because like one was a newbie and one was a professional, right? Yes. One was a newbie just like me.

And so we all just kind of were like, are we really doing this? Because even the one who had been there for, you know, 10 years had been going, she was very nervous about like, you know, are you sure you guys want to do this with us? Are you sure you want to like because when we go there, we don't, you know, we don't have tops on. Like all of our husbands would see each other and you would see, you know, everything. And so like she was more nervous like that we would think less of her once we got there. And then she, you know, like what did you bring us into? Because she said the first time she went, she cried. She looked at her husband and she said, why did you bring me here?

Why would you think that this would be fun for me? Yeah. And she's like, so I remember what my first time was like. And she's like, I just don't want to scar our relationship because I brought you to this place. So but me and the. newbie, we were like in heaven. We just be buffed all around and asked tons of questions and, you know, we learned every terminology that we could. We had no idea what a unicorn was or any of that. We didn't know there was a difference in hard swap or self-swap. And yeah, it was amazing to us.

So we were like just sponges, just soaking it all up. So now you get to that first vacation and tell me what happened. I mean, I know, like Neil was a very good storyteller. I mean, he talked about some cruises you took and boat rides. I mean, where do you guys go? Temptation. Temptation. What was the resort again? Correct. Temptation. Mm-hmm. And Kanker. Yes, it was amazing. So we went and we hung out in the pools. The hot tubs are the best place to come, you know, conversate at the end of the day when the sun goes down. And then we did those, the boob cruise, which is called a boob cruise. And it takes you out. And that was probably the biggest eye opener for us because, number one, I thought that squirrel. was just a myth that it just happened in porn and it was fake and then when he said on the count of three

I want the husbands to get down and you know make your wife squirt I was like excuse me I want to be front run for this I was like pushing women aside I was like I'm going to get up here I was watching and when it happened I was like oh my gosh I cannot believe this is really happening and then like the whole time after that I was just like I would ask people in the pool like so do you squirt like how do you squirt like I want to learn how to squirt and they were like well my husband can show you had a squirt. I cannot skirt. I want to do it. So yeah, and since we've been in the lifestyle, my husband has made people squirt, but he still has yet to make me squirts. So I don't know if it is physically possible with me. I don't know because my husband can seem to do it with other women,

but he cannot do it with me. Don't you hate that? I'm obsessed with squirting and I'm always like, you know, I have never been able to and I'm always like I wish I could. And then I think, unfortunately when you get it in your head that you want it so bad it almost like cock blocks you like sometimes I feel like I've been close and then I start thinking about it oh my god it's going to happen and then I knock myself off the game like I don't know you know I just think uh sometimes when you want it too much it doesn't happen but I've heard of people uh a lot of women that it just you know happens one day it's not like oh if you you know if you're like squirters have always squirted Like there's so many women out there that just figured it out one day at all different ages.

So just because you haven't squirted yet doesn't mean that tomorrow you won't be able to. It just, it just happens sometimes out of nowhere. Well, I will keep my fingers crossed. So, but yeah, Neil says the same thing. Neil says he thinks that I just talk myself out of it, but I'm just getting too worked up into it. Yeah, because it's in your head. Yeah, yeah, because you wanted so bad. And yeah, I really do think.

And I think that with squirting, you have to be so relaxed and so. so not in your head, right, and in your body that I think that that works against you, 100%, because I believe that it happens with me. So let's get back. So now, were you like the first time that you got there, even before that boob cruise or whatever you went on, like were you getting naked at the pool and stuff? Or were you uncomfortable to do that? Or were you totally open for it and down?

No, I was totally open for it. He and I had went on other vacations where we went to Topless. resorts or topless beaches and things of that nature. So he and I are comfortable and he was very open to me doing that. So that was not an issue that we had or anything that we had to discuss or talk about. Everything else we had to discuss or talk about because we had no idea what rules were. So that was interesting. But that was one thing that we were definitely on the same page right off the bat for.

Right. So now were you talking like during this first trip about your rules and stuff? Like what kind of conversations were you guys having? So when people were saying, the first thing is, you know, communication is most important. The second thing is knowing your rules and what, and people would come up to us because you're there. They don't, it's not a lot of pressure, but, you know, if you are, you know, they're going to say, I assume you're in the lifestyle and you just have to say, no, we're just your visiting or we, this is our first time. And the next question usually is, you know, what are your roles? Because people are wanting to know that because there's some people who don't want to, you know, get involved.

you don't have the same, you know, rules as them. So, so we were asking us and we were like, well, I don't, we don't have rules. And they would look at us like, and that's like, automatically they're like, okay, well, you know, nice to talk to you. We'll see you later. They're like, the one wants to get involved with someone who doesn't do it. So then we were like, well, this is our first time. So can you please tell us, like, what are rules?

You know, what are they? Like, why do you have them? And then we were, then people were like, oh, yeah, I'll tell you why you need them. And then they would go into it. We're like, oh, okay, all right. So it was interesting to hear what different people's rules were and why they had those rules. So that helped us decide, you know, what kind of rules we want to establish for ourselves. So we just talked about what, like, you know, we would go back to our room at night.

We would say, so we talked to this couple and, you know, would you want to have that rule? Would that be something that would be, you know, that we should have and that kind of thing. So listening to other people's rules and why they have them helped us decide like what we want to do. Yeah, exactly. So it was very nice hearing people. stories, just like your podcast. Like those have been great, you know, things for the things that we talk about and, you know, while we would need those in our lifestyle. So what were the rules that you guys came up with? Like, what did you guys decide? We're definitely, you know, boundaries that you wanted to put in

place. So we definitely need to be in the same room. There are some couples who feel that you are more passionate or, you know, you're more into it. If you don't have your spouse or your partner, they're watching you or you having to watch them. But we have a role. that we always need to be in the same room. And we have a rule that we end together. So like we can end with the other couple, but like at the end of the night, we always go back and we debrief and we shower together.

We do something together that makes us connect. And then I like to start out. It doesn't have to be a rule, but I like to start out with a female. That gets me hot, that gets me turned on. Like my husband watching me with that. I think that turns him on and then we can all play together. And I like to all play together before we swap off.

That doesn't have to be a rule, but I have felt that the more we get involved, like if you just start out with the other couple and then you end with the other couple, like there's no like all four of you or all six of you just kind of playing. And that's, I think when you go from soft swap to hard swap, you kind of miss that because we weren't always a hard swap couple. We started out obviously a self-swap. and so you get more of the foreplay when you self-swap.

And I think that when you move to hard swap, like people, the other partner just comes right at you and grabs you. And then he's ready to go to town. And you're like, okay, well, I still want like all that stuff beforehand.

And sometimes they're just like, you know, on one, one mission only. So I kind of miss, you know, the whole soft swap thing. So it doesn't have to be a rule, but I like to all of us.

us playing and touching and feeling and hands and arms everywhere before you just go right into the sex part now that first trip did was there any soft swapping going on the first trip no we did not do anything in the other newbie couple they did not do anything we all just talked with people learned people's rules why they have them talked to them about why they're in the lifestyle the goods the bads um you know what they've learned and then we just kind of talked amongst ourselves like, oh my God, this is a real thing like people actually do this. Like this is a norm for these people. And what about your neighbors? Did you see the, you know, because you guys were the newbies and you just sat back and watched, but the neighbors that weren't

newbies, like did you see them, you know, taking part and having sex with other people? No. No. No, not at all. Okay. But was it a turn on to be in that environment? Like were you having like the best sex with your guy at the end of the night? Oh my gosh. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Yes. Oh, my And yeah, that is a great place because you just, there's theme nights and you get dressed and everyone is super sexy and hot. And everyone's in a different theme and different costume. And you get to dress up. And I love to dress up and, you know, and themes. So you're just, you just feel super sexy.

And I will say the people in the lifestyle, everyone is super complimentary. There's no judgment. Everyone is just so sweet and nice. So constantly people are coming up at you and saying, that is a killer outfit. You look amazing in that outfit. Your boobs look so sweet. Can I just touch your boobs real quick? I mean, everyone from female to male, everyone is just super complimentary.

There's just no judgment. That's what I love about the lifestyle. Yeah, yeah, I hear that all the time because people wind up with more friends in the lifestyle than out because they tend to be cooler people super open, you know, having barbecues and stuff out even outside of the bedroom. So you didn't. Oh, yeah. So you didn't do anything that first time you just talked.

But now when you went back, is that one? you guys started hooking up because eventually you guys all start hooking up together. Correct. Yes. So the second time we all went, all six of us got in the hot tub with other couples, but our original six from the neighborhood all got in in the hot tub with other couples that we had never met before. And then the first couple who had been there tons of times, they left. first. And then me and the other newbie couple, we were still in there. And then they decided to leave. And then it was just us and two other couples or three other couples that we had never met before. And then we just got to really know them. And then they kind of just started pairing off

and leaving. And eventually it was just me and my husband and another couple that we had never met before and then her and I just kind of started getting it on in the hot tub and kissing and touching and rubbing each other and we could tell that it was totally turning our husbands on so then we asked our husbands we're like we would like to move this into the bedroom would you guys like that and they were like yes so we got out of the hot tub and we moved it into the bedroom and then her and I just got on the bed together and she started just kissing me all over and she knew that this was our second trip and the first trip we had done nothing. So she totally took the lead and took charge. And she had also known that I had not been with a female since I had been

married. Yeah, exactly. So she was very, you know, very sweet in the way that she just took over my whole body and just made me feel so wonderful. And I did go down on her that night, but she went down on me first and it was it was amazing so yeah and it was it was more amazing watching my husband watch that and it was even more more amazing going back to the room well the walk of shame was hilarious with all of our clothes in our hands but um going back to the room like just so getty with our clothes in our hands and like uh just we were could not keep our hands off of each other as soon as we got in the room it was just wonderful that's like that reclaiming sex that everybody talks about right after you've been it just adds right

It was wonderful. And now did the other newbie couple wind up doing anything? Because I'm assuming you're talking, these are your girlfriends. You're all on a trip together, right? Did they do anything? Yes. They did. They met an amazing couple, and they hooked up with them.

And their story was kind of similar where they, I think they started in a hot tub, and they played like a card game, which was kind of cool. And that's kind of what broke the ice with them. And they were playing like a card game that said, okay, now you have to do this to this. to the other couple and that's what that's how they started getting hot and heavy and all four of them kind of got on the bed together and just kind of explored each other's bodies and the girls went down on each other and things of that nature so yes she had a similar story but in that time though did you have sex with your husband and her have sex like in the same room or anything like that

or was it just you and the girl fully hugging up so at the end we asked the guys to come in and the guys never touched. And like, so I would touch her while my husband was, um, going down on me. And then I would go down on my husband. But I never touched him. I never touched her husband. Right. But you were watching them, right?

Like they were kind of fooling around. You're fooling around. So you are doing even more than just hooking up with the women's first time you're having sex or being with your partner in front and also watching other people fool around in front of you as well, right? Correct. Yeah. Yes.

That is correct. Yeah. And so, um, and is that was. that's the extent of the soft swap on that vacation? Did you wind up hooking up with them again, that same couple on that trip? We have hooked up with them. We're actually, like you said before earlier, that you just become great friends with people. Like there's people that we meet and we meet up at concerts together now or if we're in the area, we'll call them and we'll do dinner with them. Now, this couple, we have hooked up with them again. They've actually come

to visit us in our state. And we've actually talked about visiting them going to like a concert in their area. So yes, we have hooked up with them since then. Right. And now when you got back, because now your other newbie couple and you have both been with women. Now, have you ever been with that newbie couples? What? Like, did all the girls in the neighborhood ever get together since now you're doing that? Um, no, but me and her have. Us four have, like our husbands and us four. When we came back from that trip, um, that. That's when COVID hit. And so everything got shut down.

And we had got on all these websites and apps. And we were talking to tons of people, which was getting us super hot and heavy. And we were talking about going on dates. And then all of a sudden, COVID hit. And her and I were on my back porch one day. And we were like, we're just so bummed that all this has happened. And now we can't, like, we got our husbands all excited about this. And they were willing to do all these dates.

And now no one's meeting. So we were like, well, you know, know, we were talking about what's going to happen when they open this up back up and, you know, there is no COVID and we get to do this. And she was joking. She's like, we're just going to be out of practice. Like, we're not going to have any practice. And I was like, well, gosh, you know, so then we were just joking like, maybe we should hook up. And we're like, you think we could talk our guys into that? We're like, oh, we could totally talk our guys into that. So we go walking a lot together. And so we just went walking around the lake and we just kind of mentioned it

to them. And of course, they were like, yes, please, we would love this. So we're like, okay, great. So we decided to meet one night at their house after it was dark and no one was there. So we kind of pulled up our car and we stuck in their house. And it was great. We had a game plan, but didn't have a game plan. So the first time we were just kind of sitting on the couch and the guys we're kind of like, you know, I think it would be cool if you two just start kissing. We're like, okay, because we kind of knew that's what we were all there for, but we were just on the couch. And so her and I start kissing.

And then we take our tops off. And then they were like, well, maybe you just take your bottoms off. We're like, oh, okay. So we take our bottoms off. And then we just start getting on the floor and we start playing with each other. And then they start coming in with us. And then we kind of like swapped off like her husband would come and play with me and then my husband would start going down on her. And then it just became like this fabulous for some that went over longer than we thought it would the very first time.

And we just felt totally normal and comfortable, which when we were walking around the lake talking about it, we were like, you know, if one of us feels odd or weird or jealous, like let's, you know, let's stop. Like we never want this to be, you know, awkward or ruin our friends. friendship first and foremost. So it went well, so well that afterwards we were all just four just sitting on their floor and their living room with like we had they had we had blankets and stuff laying down and we were just kind of debrief and going so when should we do this again? What should we do next time? Like what kind of different positions which you girls want to do? You know, so you're like, oh, this is great. So then we were like, so what happens when do we tell the other couple and we're like, no, we do not tell the other couple. And so we're like, okay. So like what happens when we want to do

something. We need a code word. So then we came up with a code word that we would say if all six of us were grilling out at our house and we wanted to say, hey, don't get too drunk because we might be doing something later. One of us would throw out the code word and that would mean, hey, there's a potential for all four of us to play again tonight. So is that good with everyone and kind of put that in our ear. So we would know that the night is not over yet. So what was that code word hydrated or something like that? What was that code word? We need to hydrate. Yeah. Yes. Does anyone need to hydrate? Yes, hydrate.

So that other couple never knew that you got you for were doing stuff. Now, how was it that first time that you saw your husband with another woman? Because that was the first time, right? When he was with your neighbor. Yeah. Yes. I was very shocked that I was not jealous. Yeah.

Yeah, I wasn't. I found it super sexy. And I don't know if it was because I trusted her. and so I don't I mean I haven't been jealous since then but I feel like that initial one It helped right With very great being with with her because I just trusted her so much and I just knew that You know sometimes if your trust can be broken in the very beginning you never you know trust anyone again And I just felt like that relationship was really great for us

You know obviously it's not going to happen that way for everyone and it wouldn't be great for everyone But I just felt like you really trusted them Yeah but I also think that whole thing and the way you would Neil communicated ahead of time. You had trust within your relationship as well, as well as like, you know, he would say stuff about women and you would get like slightly turned on by it and it was like open play between you guys. So I think that you were always wired. I think it would be more surprising if you were jealous than that you weren't. Don't you think because, you know, you were the woman that was allowing him to say stuff. Like a lot of women

wouldn't even be able to handle that, you know? And you were into women as well. So I think, you know, being so open with your husband ahead of time also helps too. Yes, I agree. You were like kind of halfway there, you know? Like you wanted to know why he liked that girl's ass and stuff. I mean, you were curious. So I would assume that you wouldn't be jealous.

But I do think, yeah, having it be someone that, you know, your friend, you were super lucky that that's the way it went down the first time. Very lucky. Yes, yes. I mean, this is like straight out of like a porn, you know, like these two couples and the neighborhood and the other couple all start like taking a walk around the lake and then they wind up, you know, all fucking each other. You know what I mean?

It's like it's not really something that happens. It's like fantasy, don't you think? It is. We are very lucky. Yes. And especially it's like COVID porn. Yeah. No, it's like COVID porn.

Yeah. You're right. You guys got to do during COVID when everyone else was making stupid. Instagram posts, you know, of them like cooking. You guys were like having the first time threesomes and foursums and swapping. I mean, come on. Right? Yes, very likely.

I mean, crazy. So now did you start swapping with the other couple? Because you are hooking up with them too, right? You're all like kind of getting together as well. Did you hook up? Were there swapping scenarios that went down with that third couple, the other lifestyle couple in the neighborhood? Oh, never.

No. Mm-mm. Interesting. How come it never happened with them? Were you not attracted to them? Her husband is very jealous. And so they have certain roles. They have more roles than we do.

Oh, okay. He doesn't not like to see her with other guys. Correct. Yeah, especially not a guy that lives right across the street from him. It would be the opposite. Like you felt comfortable. It would be the worst thing for him if he's jealous, right? Exactly.

Yes. Oh, okay. So now, does she know, though, now that you guys have hooked up and stuff? So we kind of think she does, but she has never had a conversation with me or the other girl. There was a neighborhood party that happened recently where she approached one of the other husbands and asked him, not my husband, but the other husband, and said, have you guys ever hooked up with, you know, a couple, one. and he just kind of laughed and said, what do you think? And she's like, I knew it. And he was like, did you? And she was like, yes.

And so we kind of think, but she's still, to this day, has not approached me or the other girl. Right, right, right, right. That's cool. So now when do you go? So you guys go back, you've been on those vacations many times, right? When did you do your first swap and who was it with? Your first full swap?

Our first full swap was on this last, trip that we went on. We went to the new resort, I think that my husband touched on it, the one in Michie's. And it was a newer resort. And they have the grand beside it. And that's the full nude. That's the full nudity one. And they can come over to our side at any time. So there's this Greek couple that would come over at night for our parties. And they were just super hot and sexy to us. And so they approached us and asked, you know, if we would be interested and hooking up with them. And they said, you know, if so, we will come back here on this night and we'll be at the bar. And if you're interested, my wife keeps talking about you and wondering what

you would be like in bed. And he's like, and I think that your wife has the most sexiest eyes ever. And I would love to make love to those eyes. And he said, so we'll just be at the bar. You know, no pressure, but we'll meet you there at this time. And so they showed up and we decided to show up at the same time. And then we went back to our room. We danced for a while and then we invited them back to our room. And we had a room with a hot tub that was outside. So we went outside and just kind of like hung out, had a drink there. And then we went inside and took it inside to our bedroom. And, and we went inside. And, you know, we went inside. And, you know, we went inside. And, you know, It was wonderful. The girls started playing first, but while the guys were undressing, the girls were already naked. And so we started getting on the bed. And we just devoured each other.

You know, I went down on her. She went down on me. She was very sexual. She loved to talk, which I absolutely loved. So she would say, yes, right there. Oh, my gosh. Yes, please, more and more right there. And it was just, it was wonderful.

Like, she was just very sexual. And then the guy, the guy came in and on the other side of me and he started kissing down my back as I was like kissing his wife. And then he turned me over. And then at that point, that's when my husband kind of took over with her and started going down on her. And then we all just did oral together and played with one another. And then we ended up having having sex with everyone. Like I had, you know, sex with him. He had sex with his wife.

He had, she had sex with my husband. It was, it was all wonderful. So, and then at the end, we just kind of all got to talk and hang out. And then we, obviously, they're from Greece, so we haven't seen that couple again. But it was our first experience with a hard swap. And then my husband and I just went into the shower. And it's really cool the showers at that resort. You can see through them.

so you can see silhouettes. So anyone walking outside your room can see a silhouette of a silhouette of you. No, it's very sexual. So we knew that was happening. So as we were reconnecting, I was like, how about, you know, let's do it doggy style. Let's give them something to look out there because I was in like a rare form. I was like having a great time. So yeah, the reconnecting sex is the most wonderful sex ever.

But yeah, we kind of while people were watching you a little bit, right? Well, we actually, before we had hooked up with that couple from Greece, two nights before our neighborhood couple, the night that they were getting ready to leave, we knew that that was their last night. So we obviously wanted to invite them back. And it just so worked out perfectly that that was the night that the original couple, our first neighborhood couple that invited us, she got a little too drunk. So she had to call it a night. So we were like, oh my gosh, the stars are aligning. So they called it a night. They went to their room.

And so us two neighborhood couples went out to the hot tub. And we got in the hot tub. And then we ended up having sex outside. There are beach chairs outside. And everyone could watch. And our room was overlooking the beach front. So like people walking to take their stroll in the beach before they went to bed or people walking outside.

It was just, that was probably one of my favorite highlights. It's not, the hard swap was obviously a highlight, but hooking up with them and being outside where everyone was watching and cheering and like just making comments on watching us, that was super hot. Like I love being, and my husband, he truly gets off on public sex. So to know that he is having the time of his life also, because I know that's what gets him off his public sexual activities was just super hot as well. And now did you do full swap with them?

We do not do full swap with them. Oh, you don't. How come? They are not a full swap couple. Oh, okay. They haven't gone there yet. Do you know why? Correct.

I mean, you talk with the girl. Is it like the guy's not into it or she's not or they're both not open to that just yet? I think they're just not ready for that yet. That's cool. But you, so you have a little bit of an exhibitionist inside of you. And so people are like right there, like really watching like how far away? Oh, yes. Oh, my God. And he's literally like, like, you know, I'm laying down on this beach chair. He has my leg spread. He is like in the middle. Like this other husband is like just eating me out. And, you know, my other, I mean, my husband and her are just on the other beach chair. And she's like going to town and him giving him a blowjob. And people are just like, yes, get it. That's awesome. Good for you. Like, I mean, it's just so funny. For you, the one who likes that positive reinforcement. I mean, you got. I know. I was.

off big time. Yes. Yeah, that's crazy. So now you had that Greek couple. You didn't do the full swap with, I mean, you do soft swap though all the time still with the neighborhood couple? Yes. And what is the name of that, that new place that you just went to? M-C-E-C-E-C-E-S. M-C-H-E-S. Oh, M-C-E-C-E. Now, is all of this information is on your website, correct? Like, yes. Yes, it is correct. Yeah, and now it's tempted pineapples. You have like all the links to like, let me just get it up. Oh, yeah, it's fantastic. Any of the outfits that we wear, my husband has put the sights on there for all the outfits, the sex toys that we buy.

He puts that kind of stuff up there. Games that you would want to play if you're having a, because there's lots of hotel takeovers and there are house parties that are in the lifestyle. and you want to make sure that you have like really cool games. He's put a lot of links to games on there. Yeah, it's great. It has everything on there. And then all the resorts that you're talking about.

Do you guys go to house parties and swingers clubs? I forget. We have. We like the hotel takeovers better. But we've done a couple of house parties. We just haven't had best experiences with those as we have with hotel takeovers. How come like less variety of people maybe that you're attracted to? Yes.

Yeah. I feel like there's more of a variety. And then, you know, you don't feel like people are more pushy at a house, I feel like, because they feel like there's only six of us and I have to find my date quick. And then I have to cling on to that person and that has to be. And you don't always, like, we call it taking one for the team. And sometimes it's just not as fun if, like, I'm not really attracted to the husband, but he's my, my husband's really attracted to the wife.

Whereas at the resort, like, you know, I can watch him like, you know, I can watch him, like have fun with a girl at the pool and I don't have to, you know, kiss the husband just because that they're a couple. Oh, that's interesting. So it's not like you always have to swap. It could be just him with the girl or just you with the guy. Correct. That's cool.

And that's like one of your, I'm sure maybe, I mean, is that how, that's probably like specific to you guys. Maybe not everyone rolls that way. I know a lot of couples will say that the hardest thing when you are doing swaps or finding other couples to play with is finding that four way chemistry, right? that everybody is attracted to everybody. But you guys will be cool when you're on vacation or at these hotel takeovers just hooking up separately.

But you're always together, right? Correct. So it's more like playing during the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like just like playing during the day, like, you know, like having fun at the pool or whatever. Like obviously if we're going back to someone's room, you want it to be like mutual. But when you're at those house parties, like, they tend to like, as soon as they're

there, they skip out a couple. And they're like, okay, this is a couple we're going to go after. And I'm like. I'm not really like I don't know if I want to like you know it's it's the the pickings are just smaller right and it just I don't like I mean we haven't had a very good vibe at house parties not to say that that it might not work for everyone there they may be wonderful to have that intimacy and that kind of thing because you do get to play like games and stuff and you get to know people so that you know it might work well for people but I just like to have a bigger pond of people right right and so a hotel takeover what do they have? Like, it's a regular hotel in your neighborhood or someplace close and they, like, book out the whole place and everyone's like walking around doing their thing from room to room. Like, how does it, what goes down at a hotel takeover? Yeah. So a hotel takeover is, sometimes it can be one night or two nights. So the first night,

there's like a reception and it's all in the lobby. And yes, the hotel takes over the whole, the people who put the party on take over the whole hotel. So there's no. There's no families now. not do with that. Correct. Correct. Although on if they're Friday and Saturday night, sometimes Friday night, they still have people like checking out. So that has been fun. Like we have a lot of people who have coming in from the airlines and the pilot and the stewardess are coming in and they're like, oh, and they see all these people and we're like half dressed and standing in the lobby. So I have a feeling that they're like, hmm,

something's going on here. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah. So, but yeah. So the first night is just kind of like a mingle in the hotel lobby, getting to know each other. And then the next day, there's usually something going on at the pool. And there has a DJ out there and they'll do something fun at the pool with lots of games. And then at night, there is a theme. And then there's a place to go dancing and they have a DJ and it's a lot of cool things. And then at midnight, the DJ shuts down. And then there's usually a floor that has all the fun rooms on it. And that floor will be, every room will have something going on. Like they'll say, there'll be a sign on the door that says, you know, couples sex. So you can go in and you can

just go in that room and you can just, like me and my husband can walk in that room and we can just start having sex in there. And there'll be other couples having sex around us and beside us. Or they'll say single women. So you're just going in and they'll just be men who are just having sex and you don't have to have a couple. Like you can just go in and you can have sex with anyone. And then some people rent out rooms and sell stuff. Like we've seen the like the crosses where they'll try to, you know, they'll put your arms up there and they'll start flogging you. Oh, right, right. Yeah. And we, yeah. And we tried the, a bunch of sex, you know, people are trying to bunch of sex toys because there's people who are

trying to sell that kind of stuff in that whole room. They're just trying to get you to try out. There's, you know, we've been on a Sabium before and things like that. Like they'll, have women try out certain sex toys. Yeah, that's super fun. So how many years have you guys been doing this for? So we started in 2019. Right, so since then. Now, how has it changed your relationship, like would you say?

I'm assuming for the better, you know? Yes, yes. I would say for us, we are stronger because we communicate a lot more and tell each other what we want more. And I'm not ashamed. Not that I was ashamed of it before, but like the fact that I wanted this didn't make it seem right to say it out loud because maybe he didn't think that he was good enough or that he was. But like I for me, I get off on watching him with someone because then he's and he just, he appreciates me more I feel like because he's like, oh my God, that was really great. But you are, you know, I love the way you do this or I love the way you do that. Or and sometimes like he's been with someone who gave a really great.

blowjob and he was like, hey, I thought you gave a really great blowjob, but can you do this? And then he's like, oh my God, that was amazing. And I'm like, and so I'm like, oh, it helps. So now I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. So then now when I give blow jobs, he's like, he's like, oh my God, there's so much. It's like, there's so great. I'm like, well, then I'm glad I did it because, you know, I'm like, yeah, this is great. Yeah, but how amazing that you guys are open enough that that he could actually tell you that, you know, and I think that a lot of times in normal relationships, quote unquote, vanilla relationships. All of that stuff is so. off the table and everyone's so afraid and not wanting to hear anything about anybody else. And like I said,

with you guys, even early on, you guys were the couple that was able to be honest and be like, hey, you know, I have eyes. I see other fucking hot people. You know what I mean? Like nobody normally talks about it. But it's like going down. But you guys were always open about that, which I think really helps. And like, look, like you give better head now because he feels comfortable. enough to tell you that someone else gave him better head. And you're like, oh, yeah. And you're cool enough to be like, really, what did she do? Because now I could do that and I gave you better head. Like, that's actually very smart of you. Like, some people would just not even be open to that. But I think it's cool that you are because it helps. Right? It does. It's, it's been great. Yes.

We, we have come out stronger for it. And yeah, so I love it. Now, do any of your vanilla girlfriends, I mean, know about your being in the lifestyle now, or is it just the neighborhood couples that are involved in it with you? I have one vanilla girlfriend that knows. And how was she, when you told her, was she like, oh, my God, I want to do it too? Or, oh, my God, you're crazy. Oh, my God, you're crazy. Yes.

Yeah. She said, I am way too jealous for that. And I understand that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think most people feel that way. But would you, like, looking back on yourself, like, if, you know, somebody told you six years ago that this is where you would be would you be like no fucking way like you can't even believe it no i would have said no maybe the girl on girl because he's always joked with me like taking me to Vegas and getting me a girl so maybe like him watching me with a girl but like us swapping and full swapping no i would have said no right right

right because i would have said and i would have said the same thing i would have said because i'm too jealous that's exactly what my first thing would and even though that i'm so open to everything i would have been like i don't know like i i just i don't i don't know i don't know I just feel like there's just, if you would have asked my 10 years, 10 years ago myself, I would have, I know I would have been like, I think there was just a lot more, maybe insecurities that I didn't, that I didn't, that maybe this has made me more confident too. And it's made us love each other as well. Like, love, like for who we are and like our body. Like, I just, I don't know. I find his body way more sexually attractive because I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I, I'm not as jealous as I thought. maybe I was. I don't know why I was that way, but yeah. Yeah. So like maybe, you know, it's maybe because you guys did kind of take it slow, right? You didn't do, you didn't jump into the hard swap. You did the first, you know, and you didn't even jump into soft swapping. I mean, the first time you just kind of observed. Like what would, if you were to give like a newbie couple, any kind of tips on how to do it? Like, what would you say? I would just say know your rules and be open.

But and talk about everything after it happens and talk about how it made you feel. And that's what's going to make you either, you know, progress in one way or another. Because I think that, I mean, people say that they start out. It's hard to swap. And it's amazing. So I don't want to say that's not the way to do it because I didn't do it that way. So I don't know. I'm not going to sit there and judge.

Yeah. But I would just definitely say that communication is key and talk about everything about how it made you feel. And if it makes you feel like, you know, I really. wasn't that because that's what I like I told you I would have been I would have said I would have been jealous and even that you have said on this call with me I don't think that's like that like after I said it I said that's exactly what I said I'm like wow I thought I would be more jealous and I'm not I won't more and because we talked about it we did progress and I would have never thought that we would be hard-stopping but we are because I loved watching him

and I wasn't as jealous as I thought I was going to be and it actually turns me on and And yeah, I love it. So, yeah. And would you recommend, you know, like a lifestyle resort as maybe the first thing that you dip your foot in the water? Because it sounds like it kind of was a good first experience because you could kind of go and just watch everything and observe. And there's no pressure, right?

It's not like you're at a house party with, like you said, six other people your first time. That would be a lot of pressure that maybe you're going to have to participate. Is there like zero pressure at a lifestyle resort to participate? Yes, totally. So I would definitely say like when you go there, you can talk to people, ask them questions, basically observe. And you can observe all different types because there are guys that are there with three girls. There are unicorns that are there. And that's something we didn't even know that existed.

Yeah. So there's all different. I mean, there's married couples who hire or, you know, pay another female to come. with them on these trips and sometimes they are in the same room with them sometimes they're in the room next door to them so there's all kinds of different things out there that we had no idea about so i think that that you're right in saying if you go to a lifestyle resort you can learn a little bit about everything and then kind of talk about well that wouldn't be us but once again you don't judge because everyone's different and you know the fact that i'm here right now

needs that everyone's got a different, you know, thing that they like and they want to do with their spouse or significant other. So yeah, I think that's a great way to get out there and just kind of find out what is actually out there for you. And if that even turns you on or if that's something that you had ever even thought about doing. Right. That's like the perfect place, I think. I think it sounds like it, especially because of like how it went for you guys. And now for people to find all of this information, like if they're like, oh yeah, you know what, it is a good idea and we want to try it. Let's go to a resort. They could go to your website, tempted pineapples.com and there is a section resorts. You click on that and you have links

to every resort that's available, right? Like to all the big resorts, right? There's even cruises out there as well. You can do a cruise. Yeah, you have cruises, dating sites, events, the toys, the outfits, everything like newbies or people have been doing it for years. All the information is. All the information is in one place on your website. I think your website's great. I talked it up on Neil's episode because, you know, not everybody is into Googling and finding out all this for me. It can take you three hours to find every single cruise available or resort.

You guys have done all the work for everybody already. And if you don't have the money to jump on a vacation right now, listen to podcasts. They are huge, huge eye-opiners. And your podcast is actually on our website. Yeah, I love that. Something that we listen to all the time when we go on trips together and car rides together. So it is, yeah, that is a great way to learn about a lot of different things, how couples have started out, how they have progressed, how they started out, what they didn't like, how things happen. And while they have rules now, because of an incident that happened that was good or bad.

Yeah. So that's why I like to, that's why I like, that's why I like to say, you know, have my, you know, swingers gone wrong stories too as well as the podcast. positive ones because I think it is educational to hear what not to do, what to do. You know, so you also have that link. I mean, you have a whole bunch of podcasts that you recommend that you got, you know, for people to go and listen. Like you said, if you can't afford right now to go on the cruise, you have dating sites, events, like I said, play toys, games, party ideas.

It's tempted pineapples.com. I will put the link in the description. I'm so glad I had you on. Like, I know sometimes couples think when I do it separately. Like, oh, how could you tell the same story? like it's going to be boring. Like, no, your episode is fucking great. I'm so glad I had you on separate because it's a whole other view, even though it's

the same story. It's fascinating. And it was so, it was so good to hear your take on everything. It's totally stands alone. So I'm glad I did it. And you gave a lot more specifics too than Neil. So trust me, people are going to love your episode. Okay.

Thank you. And thank you for what you do. You've helped us a lot. This has been great. Yeah. I love that. Well, your episode will be up this coming Monday. So stay tuned.

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