Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 642 - Girl Talk: P***Y Pumps, VR Porn, No Fapping?! and More with Layla

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Let’s talk all about p***y pumps VR porn, no fapping?! and a whole lot more with Layla from the Curious Girl Diaries podcast. How do you use a use a p**** pump? Is VR porn everything it’s cracked up to be? How many fingers is best when fingering? And, do guys really FAP??? Tune in to find out plus hear Kathy and Layla talk all about their experience with a p**** pump and how Layla felt about the one Kathy bought for her, the pros and cons about VR porn and their experiences with it, how and why finger size is important to Kathy when fingering, how Layla learned to squirt while fingering herself and how she figured it out, an update on Layla’s girl on girl action as well as find out whether or not she’s pegged her sub, how and why she’s currently obsessed with a guy who has “the biggest d*** in the world,” how and why the amount of jizz a guy produces is important to Layla, how much they think guys masturbate and why Layla believes no fapping is in style and why Kathy disagrees plus a whole lot more. Make sure to listen in and then chime in on our debate. You can find Layla's private podcast here: https://www.thecuriousgirldiaries **To see anonymous pics LAYLA plus see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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friends and we, you know, we know each other. So, you know, there's like chemistry there. And we decided to wrap about masturbation. That's where we started because I was going to do a masturbation May month with her. But I wound up airing it now. It's not even May anymore. And we wound up talking about so many different things anyway. So it's not just about masturbation. But that's where we start. And I, you know, if you listen to her last episode when she was on with me, we did talk about me buying her a pussy pump because that was like my favorite thing. And I liked a pussy pump sometimes. So I said I was going to send her one and she was going to use it and come back on and tell me all about it. So that's where we start. I sent her the pussy pump. She talks about whether she liked it, whether she

didn't, all that kind of good stuff. We talk in detail about the pussy pump as well as the click Kisser, which was my favorite toy. And then we start to talk about VR porn. I've tried it. She tried it. We both have different experiences. We talk in detail about what we think about VR porn. Who liked it? Who did it? Who did it? You're going to have to listen. We also talk about online dating. We talk about fingering. We talk in depth about fingering, okay, because I'm very specific about what I will do and what I won't do when it comes to fingering. She rolls in a very different way. This is what's fun about our combo. It's like we're very different in a lot of ways, right? So we talk about fingering. She's the opposite of me. You'll have to hear to find out what that

means. We talk about squirting. She could squirt. I can't. She talks about how she can make herself squirt. We talk about, we get a little update on her thruple. She was seeing a couple. Last time we spoke, she hadn't gone down on the girl. I was like, that's ridiculous. She talks about whether she's gone down on the girl, whether she's pegged her little sub. There's a guy that she's been seeing that wanting her to fuck him in the ass and she talks about pegging him. I give her some tips about anal. She's a little nervous. Think she won't be so great at it. We talk about, you know, anal and pegging and how she's a three input girl and I am too. So we go on and on about that. She talks about the guy with the biggest dick in the world that she's currently obsessed with. You got to Google this guy,

okay, because I did after she told me about him. Oh my God. That's who she's currently getting off We talk a lot about fapping and this whole no fap or fat movement. I don't know. To fap or not fap? I never even heard about fapping, but she thinks that like all guys fap or is that like not jerking off. So we get into this whole like debate about whether like how many, how much guys really do jerk off. And so I'm going to need you guys to email me because we were very, we had both have very different opinions of this. I think I'm right.

She thinks she's right. I want you guys to call in or write in. and tell me what you think, whether you fap or don't fap or even know what the fuck fat means, okay? We both have, like I said, very different opinions on that. So we debate that. And then, you know, we just talk about sex. It's all, it's like a girl talk episode.

You're going to love it, all of it, okay? She's very descriptive and funny, and it's a fun conversation. And you're going to be into it. So I'm just going to be right back on with Layla. Again, she's from The Curious Girl Diary. she gives all of her shoutouts for all the stuff she does as well in the beginning and the end of the episode I'm going to be right back on with Leila hi Layla welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast how are you today Layla London I'm fucking fabulous layla London from the curious girl diaries is back guys now listen if you

have not heard our previous girl talk episodes go fucking listen to them because last time we spoke okay I gave layla we get into it yeah we do get into everyone loves those episodes but besides that I did give you homework. Like I said, I was going to in my last episode, Girl Talk with You, I'm going to send you a pussy pump. And you're going to pump your pussy and we're going to talk about it. So I do have to trash you though first. Yeah, I do have to trash you though first because after our episode, I did send you a fucking

text message. Like send me your address. And you didn't text me back for like three days. And you're like, for what? I don't even know if you said for what? You never sent it to me. I'm like, what the fuck? Like I'm sending you a free sex toy and you're not even responding.

I know. Listen, I deserve all the flogging and the, and the, like, the heat from you. Yeah, but we know you love it. I love all the New York. I love all that New York bossiness. Like, it's like, I deserve it. You know what? It's just, I've been working on.

I've just been working on a lot of stuff for my podcast. And I literally got, you know, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, send me. And then I just, you know what I mean? You're like on to the. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I did send you a pussy pump. Okay. You did. Now, I got to tell you something. Listen, I got into the whole pussy.

the whole pussy bump thing because of the clit kisser, the fate, my favorite toy ever that I always talk about. I am in talks with a manufacturer that I found in China that does custom made sex toys. Okay, so I am going to custom make a clit kisser. There's nothing like it. You should.

Yeah, there's nothing like it out there. And I don't, I feel like, um, the pussy pumps that they have, uh, out there are, are subpar.

The only one that sticks is the one that I sent to you, but it's slightly painful. will put a link to it in the description if everyone wants to get it because I've tried a lot of pussy pumps and none of them really work but this one does it's suction on and you could suction it up and you do get engorged now because it was your homework you and we all know that I love it we need to know what happened when you got it okay so um yes so it it it I used it pretty quickly right I was excited and like let's see what I've never punted pumped my pussy.

You are the first person I pumped my pussy for. But I actually think a lot of women have never used a pussy pump. Like, I really do. And I don't know that I would have ever gone out and bought one by itself if the clit kisser wasn't a pussy pump with a vibrator on it. You know, that's how I got into the whole pumping thing because it was, it was a part of the clit kisser, you know. So I think personally that, look, most women haven't tried a pussy pump.

I agree with you. I had not tried one and I can just consider myself very adventurous. But here, but what you just talked about, you know, when we were discussing this, I pumped and pumped and pumped it and I got the pumping benefits, but I also then took a vibrator that I had and I put it on the outside of the dome of the pump because I wanted that, I guess, probably what you got from the original click kisser. I wanted that. Intuitively, Kathy, I was like, okay, now that I'm pumped up and everything's distended and full of blood, like I, now I need this, right? And so I was like, d'r, like putting, moving it outside of the dome. Listen, I want to give people the visual.

I have attached this thing, like a barnacle, like a barnacle to the top of my, or like, do you guys remember the aliens? anybody out there like from the 80s like alien remember when that thing like jumped on her face or his face or whatever that scene was scared the shit on me i saw it when i was way too young you scared the fuck out of me that that thing like snapped onto your face this is like what's on your what's on your crotch and you're like pumping it pumping it but i was waiting for the crescendo so it felt really good with all of that blood like moving to that area and gorging everything like my pussy lips made me feel like i had a meaty pussy which i'm a little um i don't know how i feel about that but you know pulled sucked

everything out and made it big and distended and all the blood flows going there and then i'm like but i need to now that it's fully primed like now i need the stimulation so i took my vibrator and i was moving it outside of the dome of that pussy pump that had suction onto my labia vagina, the whole area right there, and just sucked it all out. And that's what I needed. It was that vibration. I needed that extra stimulation at the end there. And it was that made it hot. Yeah, I think that I didn't sort of preface the fact that I, I don't come just from a vaginal pump by itself. Like, it's not like I, you know, it's like that to me is like foreplay. When the click, when you do include the vibration on top of it.

That is what took that click kisser to the, you know, that vaginal pump the click kisser to the next level. That's why I had to fucking throw it out because it was so good. You know, because it was both those things. By itself, the pussy pump, I can't climax from it by itself.

So I think it was smart that you put the vibrator on top of it. That's what I'm trying to recreate because they don't have anything like that right now, you know? but I feel like the pussy pump is good though for foreplay because like you know and I will use it for like a really long time because I do enjoy edging out. I didn't learn until I did my show that there is something called tease in denial and I definitely fucking like it. I'm like the type of person that loves to delay my gratification. No matter what it is that's good.

I like to make it last. Like I don't open up my presence until everyone has opened them. I don't eat my favorite thing on the plate until I'm done with all my non-favorant things. Like I eat my peas first. Yes. If there's something on a plate that like I don't like, I will eat that right away because now I can enjoy what I'm really interested in. Yeah, I don't want the good thing to be over.

I want to, I want to, I know. Because then once it's done, it's done, right? That's how I roll. It's done. So I like to edge out. I like to keep myself in that state of feeling really fucking good. And I think a pussy pump does just that. And if you use it with a suction cup, like the one I got you has a suction cup on it.

They have a lot of vaginal pumps that have like a little pump that you go up and down, which is really hard to do. And those don't work. Okay, you got to get one with the old school ball on it that you squeeze. And if you do that really gently and you squeeze it all up and then you let it go down and then you do it. I mean, you can play with that thing for like at least I can because I like tease and denial. And if I'm not in a rush, you know, I could use that for a really long time. and it's like fun but you're right like you cannot come from it i think that's like what you were a little

confused about you're like what's the fun like how now what now what yes yeah what do i do next yeah okay i got myself to this really aroused state with this and i did like i really liked that pump but i was like okay what is the next now i need to get over the edge here how do i get over the edge yeah i was like reaching i was reaching and grabbing for things i'm like What do I got? Okay. As I've got this alien attached to my vagina. It's like fully suctioned on there.

Like it is vacuum sealed on there. It's not coming up. Yeah, no. And it does engorge. It makes it look like so. Have you ever? Oh my God. So like I've never used it with a guy, but I remember when I got really into,

not the clickhisser, but when I bought the pump again later because the clickhister wasn't available and I started pumping it up and like telling what, of my booty call guys about it. He was like really into fucking seeing me use it. And for some reason, I just never did. I just wonder, like, do guys like that? Like, do they like to see? Because it does look very deformed. I do get so huge. Yes. I think, I think they would. I think they absolutely, you just, while you were saying this, I literally thought to myself, like, I need, that's my next picture for my private podcast episode is like, like, I do the cover art. Like I take, you know, it's a picture of me.

I just use the cover art as me and I'm doing something or whatever. It's usually sexual. But I, I'm like, oh, this would, with all my bits like distended like that. Yeah, do a whole thing. I don't know what you're doing your fucking private podcast, but if that's what, if that's going to be the picture, what are you going to do on the episode? I just talk. Like, you're going to make an episode while you're using it?

I have to build an episode around that picture. Like, that's fucking. lot. Yeah, it is good. I don't know. I do recommend women to go try one. I think it's good for play. I think guys might like a guys will email me.

I know after this. After we did our last episode where we talked about a lot of sex toys and I talked about trying to find a click kisser, so many people emailed me links. Like they felt like they found it for me. It was so nice. You know, like everyone was trying to be the one to found me, find me my clit kisser. But all they have nowadays are these little things that are just over your clit. this clit kisser wasn't just over the clit, it was over the whole thing.

It literally was like a pussy pump with a big bullet, a butterfly bullet on top. So you felt like it was like, because your lips got so big in the pussy pump, what happened was it finally would reach. You would want to pop up. I know, I know, I know exactly where you're going right now. I can feel it. I can feel it. Yeah, you want to get up. You're trying to get closer to that.

And it feels almost like a tongue. and that's why the click kisser was so ideal oh my god yes no I can imagine that like right now I feel it in my body yeah I'm making it I found it the company you do you do you need to do that yeah and I'm gonna sell it on my show because why shouldn't I I could sell if it works the way that clit kisser used to work that went out of style or whatever stock it's like I could sell that to anybody and nobody will be disappointed did because like I literally I had to throw it away. And so I figured like, oh, let's talk about your pussy pump. You used it.

You liked it. Masturbation M-May. Now, listen, let's be totally honest. I did a conversation all about Masturbation-May with you and WIO. You aired that episode on your episode. I was going to air it on mine too and we were all going to air it, right? We're three podcasting friends that do all the same thing. But my sound sounded so bad that I'm like, I'm not airing it.

Let's me and you just do our own masturbation may thing. it's fun and people love when you're on my girl talk but so listen could we just talk because i heard it since it's a masturbation where we're going to focus on masturbation i you know i want to get into fingering and i want to get into vr porn because somebody was talking about oh i think it was andy cohen was talking to somebody about vr porn and i was like oh my god have you ever tried that because i have and i have my own feelings about it but i was curious if you have and what what you think about it first before I give my analysis. I fucking love this question, number one.

Okay, because you know what? I have and I have, I have forgotten to mention this on my show. Can you believe it? Well, when did you use it? Tell me. This will be the first time it's actually even coming out that I've ever been exposed to it and how unbelievable it is. Okay.

So, uh, when I'm, I just got exposed to it probably like maybe three weeks ago. Oh my God. Why is everyone so late in the game? But maybe, okay, go on. I got exposed to, I, because I don't have a VR headset, yeah. Yeah, I don't have, I don't play video games and I don't have a VR headset. I don't know, just don't have them.

And so when somebody put it on me, I was. like, oh my God. It was like I was the guy and this girl was writing my dick and fucking me. And I was just like, wow. I mean, it was really cool. Like there's a whole another world to be explored there. Yeah, because they have it from every angle. Okay. I tried everything. I know. I'm going to go through everything on the menu. And I found it to be. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't. that. I just thought one little snippet. So that's like I need to expand. But yes, tell me what I'm missing. I found it to be so fucking gross. I was like horrified, okay? Only because and this is going to be, listen, I think if you listen to this, what I'm about to say, you might hear it very differently.

For me, it was so real. It was disgusting because like there was like this gross guy fucking me and I wasn't attracted to him and his face was right there. And it was just, but I feel like, Like someone might be listening to this and be like, oh, I don't care if the guy's fucking gross. Like I want to see what that's like. It's so realistic. Maybe that's great for somebody. For me, who's like not really wired to just be attracted to anybody. Like I found it so gross.

It was too real. Like I said, that might be the positive for most people. Look for you. It was like fucking great. Because like there you are getting fucked by this guy. I don't know. You know, if there was VR porn, maybe I needed to look at VR porn with. like like you know like a glory hole experience where i don't see the fucking face because

their faces were right there and it was so disgusting to me because oh i didn't see strangers oh you didn't see straight faces oh and it was so okay okay all right but here's the interesting thing wait yeah here's the interesting thing though i was not the i was it was in the perspective of the guy. It was a guy that put this on and said, hey, you know, check this out, watch this. Right. But did you see the girl's face? I saw her, but she was attractive. She was a 10. Yeah, so maybe the VR porn has come a long way. I did this a while back, like a long time ago when you still had those VR sets. Like, listen, my son had. It was like I was the guy, right? Like, it was the guy's perspective. Yeah, but I did it too. I did every version. Okay. I did the guy version. I did the girl version. I did every version just to see if any version was good. And they were all just, just,

disgusting to me because I saw the face and I didn't like any of them. But I'm thinking maybe they have like better models in the VR porn that's out now. Like I said, everybody I saw was attractive. Nobody that I saw. I don't know. I found them to be. And to me, because it was so real, like to see someone. And I feel like the girls were kind of attractive.

But because they were so they were like strangers and they were like moaning and groaning. It was so gross to me. But like I said, I think that's the reason why most. people would like it. They could kind of like get into that. For me, it was too realistic. And this was like a stranger and I was seeing their come faces and it was just disgusting. I don't know.

It was so gross. Even the hot girls. I don't know. The whole thing was gross to me. Isn't that terrible? I don't know. But maybe it's come a long way. I don't know.

I tried it a long time ago, like a couple years ago when you had to put your phone in the headset. It was like that old school headset. My son has an Oculus. now. So, you know, VR has come a long way. The fucking Oculus is amazing. It's so realistic like that. I get scared when I'm playing stuff with my son because it's like people run up behind you and shoot you. Like it's fucking scary. But, and to me, the porn was too realistic. But like I said, I think that that's why it might be really great for someone because it does feel very real. Yeah. And I think some people are wired to fuck strangers and they don't, they don't really care. I can't be that close to a stranger. I like fucking somebody. that I actually know.

That's just the way I'm wired. You know, I always give someone like Casey credit that just like and women that just could fuck any guy and they just love dick so much. Like I'm not like that. So I don't like to see a stranger in my face naked. I don't know. It was like, you know, not just. Yeah.

I want. But it's just too much. I know. But I want, yes. But here, I think I think the thing is I want my. strangers qualified. Like at least show up looking a certain way. Yeah, but I don't know.

Maybe I'll have to try it now. Maybe the girls are hotter. I've got it to be gross. But I think most people aren't like me. This is what I'm saying. I think most people aren't like me. They would be turned on by the fact that it's a stranger. You know, most people, most guys especially are wired that way.

You know, it's a hot girl. Who cares that? I don't fucking know her even better. You know what I mean? Like that's probably part of it. turn on. Okay. So let me,

let me preface it. If it's like, if it's, here's how I can get into this fantasy. If it's this hot guy with a fucking, you know, like if he meets all of my requirements, tall,

amazing bod, like gorgeous. Like, I mean, just what, you know, what turns me on? I don't need to know your fucking name.

Let's, like, let's go. Like, I will, I can, I can actually be down for that scenario. but it's more of a fetishized thing.

Like I don't want to look my life like that, but yes. It's a fantasy and it could be just a fantasy. Like you could go there. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was just the day. Yeah, maybe it was just the day. But I found every scene that I tried disgusting. And it was just, it was too realistic.

But I think that that's the reason why most people are now after they listen to it are going to be like, oh, I got to try that. That's why I'm impressed with this. That's why I were impressed with it. It's like, whoa, it was so realistic. That's what kind of sucked me in. I was like, Jesus, like, they're literally having, I'm like a part of this sex scenario right now.

And they have it in every angle. Like you could be the guy. You could be the girl. I know. It's crazy. Yeah. It's smart. Listen, I think that it's smart.

I think eventually they have to figure out how to include touch in there. And then like no one's ever going to like date anybody again. You know, I'm like, what's going to happen? 50 years from now, no one's going to leave their fucking hands. I know. That scares me. Right. That actually scares me. Like I, I like, I need that real, like, live connection. I think we, I think we're already seeing that a little bit with the online dating, like how impersonal it is and or can be. Yeah. It's hard. I think online dating, I'm really bad at it because I'm like not a tube of toothpaste. I just think it's really hard to see something advertised like a product and decide whether you like it or not.

So many guys online. And I think of this sometimes when I'm watching TV. Like if that guy who I think is fucking hot after seeing him walking and talking for, you know, three episodes, I think he's hot. But would I have thought he was hot if there was just a flat picture of him? 100% no. That's typically my answer. Most guys on flat piece of paper aren't really that hot. Unless you're like the hottest jock in high school, you're not fucking hot.

There's not a lot of hot guys out there. There's more pretty girls and there are hot guys. Sorry to say. I agree. Right? But guys when they talk and they walk and they, you know, they have a vibe about them, that's what I get attracted to and that's what adds to them. And so I find that it's very hard online dating for that reason.

But I think that's just what people do. You know, I haven't dated since my son has been born. So I don't roll like that. I mean, if I'm going to meet someone, I just meet them in real life, I think it's hard. But I think, you know, I had a guy on who turned it to be like a total douchebrug. I took his episode down. He made like, you know, sex dolls. And I remember when they started to do that.

Oh, he made sex dolls? Yeah, sex dolls, like real people. You know what I mean? They look really real and stuff. And I was like, oh, I know. What's going to happen when, you know, they could really make these girls kind of like realistic and they are, you know, they are trying to do AI stuff with them. and then also create some sort of experience where there is a feeling of pleasure as well,

you know, or I forget what he was saying. But I mean, like, that's like, that's like hardcore stuff. Like, where do women go when that happens? You know, I don't know. Do you know what's going to happen? What? Is we're going to have this swing, like, completely to the other direction, I think, where, you know, at some point, this can be long after we're dead.

But people have these sex dolls. that just completely agree with them, right? They're accommodating. It's like it's building the perfect partner. But I'll tell you what, you're going to be bored with that because it's not, that's not what it's about. Right. Where do you get your drama, your conflict, all that stuff that you kind of need.

You don't need. You need somebody that's pushing your boundaries. It's not always this yes, yes. Oh, yes. Yes, your dick is so wonderful. Yes. You're fabulous. Yes.

No. You know what? That is not going to cut it. Right. It's not going to cut it. Yeah. Listen, it wouldn't just be for women. I mean, I think, you know, I mean, just for men.

It wouldn't just be, you know, women are going to want a sex doll to if guys stop poking with them. Like, it's not like women don't have needs. Okay. They do. No. But they're not going to want a guy that's just complimenting them either. No.

Uh-uh. No. Right. Real life experience is better. It is. It is. Yeah. It's different.

Let's talk about fingering because I hate fingering. somebody recently said why no no no okay I know I actually like fingering and one thing I do when I like meet a guy I look at his fingers like if you have big thick meaty fingers I'm like really into those like little dick fingers you know what I mean I really like those my co-host Tommy who was on he was like my booty call for a long time and I used to I loved his hands like his fingers like his was like a little dick like each one you know what I mean and so I like that like I don't like a thin long, thin thing inside of me.

Like I call it pokey pokey. I'm not interested in it. I don't like to see one finger in somebody. It's got to be two or more. And a friend of mine sent me some porn the other day. Like, oh, look at this shit. And I was like, oh, it was like so much fingering with one finger. I don't know.

I find that to be so gross. But like, and I never finger myself when I masturbate to you? Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. I do because so I can't look. The one finger thing like honestly, sometimes I'm like literally I'm on the edge and I'm, I'm stimulating myself and I'm like, what do I need? And I'm just like, oh, I just need that one finger. Like literally, let me get it in there. Like, and I do when once I add that and I'm touching my G spot. Oh, I'm done. I'm like literally.

Wait, can you squirt? Do I know this? Can you squirt? Have we spoken about this before? You can? You always could? Uh-huh. No, I didn't always know that I could, but somebody taught me that I could, but yeah.

And then you could do it to yourself. I can do it to myself with a big dildo. Oh, okay. Not with my, I can't do it with my finger the way a guy can. Yeah, no. But you could reach your G spot with your finger. Yes. And even though you do that, you don't squirt.

though but you could feel it somebody just recently told me it feels like uh i taped an episode with this woman crimson she's so hardcore she was telling me it feels like um you know that you're in the right place because it feels very different than any of the other skin around there it almost feels like a cat's tongue or something is that true when you feel it does it feel different like how do you know when you're there yeah it does it feels different i don't know about cats tongue because cats tongues to me are very sandpapery but this is more like um if you can imagine you know how when you see, when you look at the, like, sand, you can see where the ridges in the sand, where the weather tide is gone out and the waves have gone out, like the boom, boom, boom, boom,

that's what, that, that, that, those ridges where you see them consecutively, that's what your G spot feels like. Oh, like a bunch of ridges? Yeah, it's got a bunch of little ridges and it's spongy and you feel these like, you're, you feel these little ridges and you're like, oh, yeah, I. Okay, that's it. That's it right there. And then could you mulch or do you become multi-orgasmic through that? Yeah.

Oh, you can. Yes. Yes. Because you can, you can go back and forth between like I'm having a G-spot orgasm and then I'm having a, which is to me more pressure related. Put that pressure right there versus the clit. Right, which is a totally different thing. For me. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it was totally different, right? So, yeah. So what I like is to go, like, play back and forth. Because, you know, like, sometimes if you over-stimulate your clit, you're like, okay, I need a break. But if you do G-spot, G-spot-C-Spot-Clit, like, you can have all these orgasms. They're different and they don't wear you out. Oh, you mean, like you have one clit orgasm and then you could have a G-spot orgasm. Because typically with a clitoral orgasm, like, I have to wait at least like 20 minutes.

You know, to have another one. Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Oh, so you could have that and then in that 20 minutes rest, you could go give yourself a G-spot orgasm and then go back. Yes. Oh, interesting.

But guys can make you squirt. Yes. Guys can make you squirt, yeah. With their hands? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

And how old were you when the first time happened? Do you remember? I think 42. How long? Oh, so recently. That's what I think. I mean, it's not like, oh, just because you, I've never squirted it. I think personally, I get too much in my head about it. I just spoke about this with somebody that I think that I cock block myself because I feel like I have been close and I get a little freaked out because I'm like, oh, it's going to happen. And then I like get two in my head. And I think what really you have to be is like very relaxed and very out of your

head, you know, and totally surrendered to the experience to really release, correct? Or no? Yes. Yeah. I mean, yes. But there's also, I mean, there's a, somebody really knows what they're doing. Like, if they really know, Kathy, like, they will fucking take over your body. And that's the weirdest thing.

Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, the first time I came, the first time I squirted and came from that, it was. It was from this guy who said, yeah, I can do that. And I was just like, oh, really? You know, I mean, I really was like, when he said that and he was so confident, I was just like, fuck you. I mean, literally that's what I was like, you don't know my body better than I know my body. But it turns out he does.

He just knew how to make you squirt. And he did it with his hands. Yep. First time. That was the first time with him. First time. He said, I can and I will. and I was just like

you know I mean seriously you and I are the same right imagine a man's like hey I've had it I know I can and I will and you're just like no but that's hot no I think that that's hot actually

but I've had those guys and they still couldn't but when they really do and like yeah it's legit and you're just like Jesus that's the best

could I ask you a question because I forgot to follow up on this. Are you no longer with your Thruple? And did you ever go down on that girl? Never went down on her. And the Thruple is sort of paused right now because she's got, she just has it. She's got some, a fibroid basically is what she's, all of a sudden she kind of was like, oh, there's something going on with her, you know, her chemistry and everything. Oh, this is not hot.

Okay, so she just has some physical problems right now. So you can't. There's no more sex going down. Now, let me ask you this. Like, she's out of the picture, but does that guy ever hit you up? Or is everyone off the table? Because she's off the table. Yes.

It's kind of off the table right now because she's off the table. Although I felt like she was kind of saying we, you know, with our last meeting, it was like, well, you know, I'm going to kind of dial it back a little bit. and what I think what I think happened was he's he's a okay with having it be you know she and he and she are a okay with it just being him and I or him coming over and all that but I I kind of really wanted the one of the Threple experience like I've been with guys I'm with guys like I wanted that full enchilada. And since that couldn't happen, you know, it's for me, it's a little bit dialed back. Right. So you're not there just yet, but that's still on the table. What about your guy that you

were, I think you were pegging him last we spoke and you fisted him? Like what's going on with that sub of yours? Okay. So I haven't actually like pegged him yet, but that is what I want to do. Oh my God. Did he ask you for your address for the strap bottle? You didn't text him back? I mean, what's your fucking problem? No, no, no, no, no.

Why haven't you tagged him yet? Because I guess he's like. Do I have to give you homework? Ah. Do you have to give you a deadline? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.

You're going to be my sexual, you know. I'm sorry. I'll keep you on task. Yeah. Yeah. My sexual consult here. She keeps me on task. Okay.

No, we haven't done that yet. And I want to. But I've been researching strap-ons and I had somebody in my show that does is great with all that stuff. I just, I want it to be, I guess, good for both of us, right? And so, and I'm a little, not going to lie. I'm a little, like, nervous about, like, fucking somebody. Like, it's different. What if I suck at it?

Oh, let me tell. First of all, are you a three? It's different. No, no, no. Excuse me. Are you a three input girl? Are my what? Are you a three input girl?

Do you like anal? You do, right? Don't you walk around Target with a butt plug inside of you? Isn't that you? Yeah, I love it. Okay. So we all know that you can't be bad at anal. You put it in, you pump it a couple times, and everyone comes.

I mean, you don't fuck anybody anally for 30 minutes. Did I tell you this already? I feel like I just had this conversation. No. You have not. Okay. Listen, you can't be bad. This is new news.

You can't be bad at A&L. First of all, as long as you just don't shove it in his ass, I mean, that's good. You know, you know how to go slowly and get him. But once he's turned on, you're not going to be fucking him for a long time like a, like a cowboy. Like you're going to be, it's going to be like, you know, when you're on that thing and it throws you off the bull ride. It's going to be like that. He's not going to last that long. It's going to be like three seconds.

You're out. So don't worry. Mechanical bull. Yeah. Yeah. I think you overthink things. Like just fuck him in the ass. He's going to love it.

A strap on is a strap on is a strap on. I mean, do you want one that you're like, have something inside of you too at the same time? Yeah. I want to feel like I want it to be mutual. Like I want it to be like every time I'm thrusting it to him, like I'm feeling something and he's feeling something. We're sharing that together. I don't want it to be like one-sided. I want to be coming at the same time.

Right. Is that unrealistic? Yes, that's unrealistic. Yeah, I mean, you don't have a dick. You're not going to come. You're not going to come by being inside of him. But I think that they make those. No, no, no, but I think that they make those things where they go inside.

And listen, I think once you peg him like a bunch of times, it'll be a different experience. But the first time with your little sub who's looking forward to this and hasn't made me done it before, it's going to be really quick. I personally think. I don't think he's going to be a professional. I think after you do it a while and stuff, like maybe he'll be able to take it a long time. Yeah, I think people that are really into. up pegging and do it a long time would tell me that I'm wrong in my analysis of how it's going to go down. But that's, we're talking about newbies here. You know what I mean? He's not going to.

Yeah. And I think people that do anal all the time can maybe take it for longer, but I can't, you know, I come the fastest through anal because it's just there's so many nerve endings. Yeah, not saying without me playing with my clit, I'm just saying that once I'm ready to go from anal, first of all, I don't have anal until I'm really super turned on, like top of the mountain. Okay. You have to be, I have to be very, very turned on. I'm not like you. I'm not into pain. So I want it to be very pleasurable.

So it takes a long time for me to get to that place. And then once I am and it goes in, I can't hold off much longer. I mean, it's seconds, not even maybe a minute. I can't hold off for a really long time. It's just too many nerve endings. It's too good. But like I said, I mean, it's dragged out because there's a lot of foreplay before. But for me, I can't last really long.

But like I said, I think it's like because I, It's not on the menu every day. And it's not like something that I do so often. Maybe if I did, I'd be able to last longer. But I come very fast from it. You don't? Now, do you masturbate? I have, yes, for sure.

And that's like something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's something like, and I feel like, I don't know if I've ever talked about it on my show, but like for me, I get into phases. And like, so if I activate my asshole and like, I love anal at that moment, I've activated my asshole. Yeah. If I'm activated in that way, I'm activated in that way for probably like a month and a half.

Like it's and then it's all I want. You know what I mean? It lingers. I know. I know what you mean. Yeah. And then if I get away from it and I become unactivated, I might not think about that part of my body for a really long time. You know, so there have been times, yeah, where that's all I want and that's all that I do.

And that's how I play with myself, you know, it's because I'm activated. but it's not like always you know but I have been very into that at certain times and I like it because there's like a and so when I do that that that's interesting because when I do that and I use a butt plug or something and it's not like a dick going inside me I could have a butt plug in me for way long time and not come do you know what I mean it could be longer than a dick in thrusting that I can't last long right but a butt plug different you know like you're the one with the butt plug walking around with it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I will say this. Lately, I've been into my big dildo, which I only, it's where I go through, like, I haven't, I haven't, it's large insertion.

I haven't done this in like, since last year. Well, it's because we spoke about it. Is it, did I get you back into it? Because we spoke about that large thing last time we talked. You planted the sea. And then I was like watching some porn and I'm like, well, maybe I'm going to give this a shot. Like I, you know, I can I can reach for my normal size dildos or whatever. But I was like. Yeah, this is like a novelty fun, something interesting. I'm feeling this big dick energy. Like I want this.

And I've been watching the porn where like it's really strange. There's this guy who's like, he calls himself biggest dick in the world. And that's his like tag or. I don't even know if he has the biggest stick in the world, but it actually does like it could be the biggest stick in the world. And so he fuck, it's, it's, it is long and girthy. I mean, I don't even know like it's like a fire hose.

Like literally it's being fucked by fire. Yeah, you talk about it on that other episode and I googled him. He could like blow himself. It's that long, right? That's the guy. That's, he blow. Yes. And then do you just see how much he comes when he's coming?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How? Is that real? like I don't even know. I mean, seriously, I want, who is this guy? I want to meet him and I want to fuck him because I'm like, this is unbelievable. Like I want to know what this is about. Oh my God.

It's so long. It's long and he wears a mask. You didn't get to know what he looks like. But, but the amount of, like, I'd like to come. I'd like to see. I don't know about you, but for me, I feel like I'm the load. inspector like I like to a guy's come tells me a lot about him so it's like reading your tea leaves I'm going to read your cum leaves and I I seriously you come on now like if this guy is if

this guy has a little bit of cum coming out you're like this guy is a fucking slut he fucks everything and he jacks off all the time now if you have these other guys that like where they're heavy comers you're like I pulled that out I did that like that was me like that's that's a good for my ego. Like, I like that. Do you think that load like goes by how many times you've done it? Because I don't think so.

I've asked guys and I've like, you know, I don't know that it's necessarily correlates. You could think that. And it only helps your scene, you know, and your masturbation. But you think that it actually, if like a guy is just trickles out a little bit, that that means that he like fucked yesterday?

Yes. Really? I think no I mean so let me be narrow that down I think that means that he is just someone that's very sexual

and so how does that translate I don't know that could mean he jacks off a lot every day some guys do jacks off every day most guys jack off every day I think or I don't think every guy I don't know I actually don't think that. I think, oh, I don't think that. I think only a certain amount of guys jacked clock every day.

No. Okay. Let's have a, let's have a bet. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to, you know, that's a good, that's a good conversation right there. I think actually. Yeah, it is masturbation. May. Let's talk about guys masturbating. I think that most guys masturbate at least once a day. No. I don't, I don't agree with that. I think most guys maybe a couple times a week, but the guys. Guys that masturbate every day are serious. I don't know. I'm not going to say they're just, they're super, supercharged. Yeah, but I mean, are you talking about like 55 year old guys? Because like most guys are super charged.

I mean, 20, 30, 40s, they're super charged. No, there's this. No. Kathy, there's this new wave of guys who are like, They're in the no fapping. No fapping is like super big right now. What's no fapping? What's fapping?

Jerking off. Fapping. Yes. Oh. Yes. So, so, so, you know,

every time there's a culture, there's a counterculture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this whole, right, we've had this whole like internet, you know, you porn, porn hub, Jackie off.

Like, uh-huh. There's a whole. I, I feel like the, the, the, this, there's this wave of people, guys who are like, no, they're into the no fapping.

Yeah, but that's like the majority. I mean, come on. I've run across it. That's so stupid. Why would you not? No, I'm in the, no. Listen. It's, it's out there.

I mean, I think the buddhers do that. I mean, there is something about like, you know, holding your jizzed instead of spreading it all over like they would. So there are some spiritual people that say it's not good. Listen, it's a, we have gone from, you and I are older, right? It's, it's, it's gone from the like Sting, Trudy Stiler, you know, Tantra. Tantra, yeah, it's gone, it's gone from that holding your sperm to, men, men in the entrepreneurial world who are coming up. One of the things that they are recognizing and now starting to do is,

not, you know, masturbating and sort of losing parts of themselves or their creativity, their entrepreneurial creativity, whatever you want to call it, too masturbating and being a slave to that and being driven by like that visual, like, I need this. Yeah, well, I'm still going to tell you that that is still a very small portion of the population. That is not most guys don't live in that weirdo world, okay, of like top 5% of like TVOs. that are so fucking wealthy or they're going to try not jerking off for a month because they think it interferes with them owning

Twitter. Okay, like that's not like most guys. Most regular guys have to get the jizz out. It's just a fact. It's like poison in their body. They have to get it out. I agree with you. I agree with you. No, no, we need guys. Listen, me and you can't answer

this question. I'm just guessing and you're just guessing. I know who needs to tell us? A guy. Like, I need to get the emails from the listeners. I got to get a guy. I have a guy that doesn't know fapping. Maybe I can get them on with both of them.

Yeah, well, I have a guy who's in that same world and who faps every fucking day like 10 times the day. Okay. He's a fapper. Okay. So I'm really, no, no, he's an anti fapper. He's a not, he's like, he's, I don't know what's the opposite of fapping. He's jerking off all the fucking time.

And he's a CEO. Like, he loves sex. He's still fucking horny. He's a guy. I don't know. I just think most guys, uh, I think that they have to get the jizz out. Like I said, I do. know that there is a thing, okay? And I've heard it like in a spiritual, uh, the spiritual realm and that,

you know, you shouldn't let that out. And there is something to what you're saying. But I don't think most people subscribe to that thing, even though it is a thing. And maybe it's really true. You know, that you do hold in that energy. But I don't think most people are going to have, just like most people don't work out. Most people don't diet and most people don't not eat sugar. Like most people don't do the right thing. Okay. Because it's just easier to do what your, you know, your nature is driving you to do. And Drives men to jerk off all the fucking time because they're really horny and they have all that sperm in there and I think that they do have to release it All the time a lot. It helps them. Yeah, I know

So we need guys to email tell me do most guys jerk off once a day? I think so. What do you think? Let's have a bet. What are we betting here? You have to send me a fucking sex toy if I went I've written And then if I win I'll buy you a I'll buy you something to peg that fucking guy and then you could come back on and do a pegging episode with me. I know, I know. I mean, oh, God, okay. What do I think?

It's weird because you think that they do it like twice a week is what you were saying? Okay. What, first of all, what age range are we talking? I'm just talking guys. Not an age range. Just guys. I think even guys in their 40s, 50s are still jerking up once a day. I think maybe, you know, guys do it more when they're younger.

We're not just talking about 20 or just guys in general. No, I think so I think the no fat movement has caught on with the younger guys. I think the older guys 40 to 50, no, they're fucking jacking it like every chance. Like they're fucking. Yes. It's interesting that the older guys are still doing it, but the younger guys aren't. Yeah, the younger guys are being brainwashed. No, I think that the younger guys can't fuck girls and girls are just so horny now.

They're just fucking whoever they want. and a lot of guys can't get girls. I mean, I do think that there's a very big difference out there through men and women than when we grew up, you know? Yeah. So I think, you know, maybe men are becoming more like girls and they're not having sex and girls are just like fucking horny and fucking whoever they want and they don't give a shit,

which I think is great. It's a very different world out there. You know, so maybe. It's a role reversal. Yeah, maybe there is that role reversal. I don't know, you know. I've never heard of the no-fap, you know, movement. I have. I have. I'm out there. I'm out there.

Look, does no FAP increase sperm quality? Abstaining from ejaculation for a couple of days may increase the volume of your semen and your total sperm cap. But semen retention is also detrimental to your semen quality. Okay. Listen, I did a lot of IVFs and when I was having a baby, trying to have a baby, I was doing it with a guy. And so I know all about like holding it in, not holding in how it changes sperm counts and stuff. And I don't think there's any rhyme or reason. to the amount of jizz that comes out and how much you hold it in and what I really don't

at the end of the day. I think it depends on the guys like health and stuff. I don't know. I mean, I can taste jays and tell you whether you're on drugs or not. That's about as far as what I could tell which is. But I don't know that there's rhyme or reason with amount of load or something.

I mean, that's how we got on this conversation. We need guys to email about that too. I'm telling you. Concurrently, I have seen the amount of giz that come from guys that are retaining, holding back. And then when they do, unfucking believable. But what's interesting, yeah, no, no, but what's interesting is that you, like, I'm the opposite. Like, I want the guy that fucked a lot of girls.

Like, I don't want a guy that's not fucking anyone. I don't want a no-fap guy. Okay. I don't want the guy who's abstaining. I do, I guess, and that's like why I always wind up with like narcissists. Like I like a player. Like I want a guy that's good and fucking bad and that fucked around a lot. I don't want a virgin or a guy that doesn't really fuck a lot.

Like that doesn't turn me on. Like for you, that turns you on like a guy that you're like if a guy jizzes a little bit that means he's fucked around a lot and you don't like that. You like the guy that has held off. Like you like live in fantasy land. You want the guy that has never been with a girl and only comes for you. Like that's hot. well i mean in some well i mean the way you said that in some on some levels that's a part of it right

right yeah i think a lot of girls that's a part of it yeah but hold on but uh it's not like i don't want that just i mean i want to clarify because it's not like i want that guy who's just totally innocent and i can mold and all that no i mean i still want it's not maybe it's an unfair it's an unfair playing field. I think for me, if I see like, if a guy has this heavy load, this he's a heavy comer, this big explosion. Like your guy. Online. It's an, it's an ego thing and I'm like, that's fucking hot. But I'm also just as turned on by somebody who, you know, absolutely knows. what they're doing turns me on and like makes me come over and over i'm not going to be like

then at the end of that and i can be like well look at your load it's small so i don't this whole thing was rubbish this whole thing was rubbish no at that point trust me i got i don't care i don't care like you could have you could be fucking you could have fuck somebody two seconds before you walked in the room with me if you if you got me off multiple times multiple ways like this is you're good you're good Go ahead. Come on back. Great. Listen, nobody, and like, analyzes it as much as I do. I can analyze a piece of lint on the floor, so I'm just, like, really digging deep here, which it's like, I get it. It doesn't really save that about you, but I do like, like a player.

So if he does it a little bit and you like a player. I do. I like, I like a, I don't mind. Well, maybe that's a different word. Like, I don't mind. Listen, if I met a guy that was like a serial monogamous. and was only with a couple of women, but he was like with, like, you know,

that's not bad because that guy has been with someone, but he likes to fuck, right? But maybe he hasn't fucked a million girls because he's not, he's been in relationships. That's a different story, but I don't mind a guy that's been around the block because I think that they tend to be really good and bad. They have a lot of experience.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I know. Plus I'm older. So, I mean, it's very rare that I'm going to find a guy in my age range that I like that hasn't been around. the block and really like sex. I like that.

Like I don't think that that's a bad thing. But what do you do when you find somebody that's your age who's been around the block and who still sucks? I don't really find that. But I don't really roll. I'm not like out there like rolling with so many different people. I tend to like find one guy that's really good and bad. I typically like my beauty called guys are like fucking players.

You know what I mean? They're really good and they service me and they're great at what they do and like they could go and I don't have to feel pressure that I have to fuck them all the time. They're out there fucking everyone that they want and, you know, come help me when I need you. And that's just how I will. So I take it. Come help me when I need you. Yeah, service me when I need you and then go get your everyday needs met someplace else.

You know, I'm like lazy like that. So I tend to like a guy that has been there, done that. So I don't really, I haven't met a guy that doesn't know what he's doing in a long time. You know, I don't know. most guys that I've hooked up with or dated, you know, they kind of been there, done that. I'm not going for 20-year-old guys. And when I fucked up, I mean, when I was like 40, I had a 25-year-old from the gym, Jim from the gym, J-I-M from the G-I-M.

And he was like, he was so hot. Talk about a hot chalk. I mean, this is like a hot jock from the gym. And he was really cute and gorgeous. And he was like, he was definitely like a relationship guy who hadn't been around the block. But he was really good and he was really good and better. because he was just a hot guy. So he doesn't have to be a player, you know, but I typically,

I'm with guys that are older that are good. You've been with, like, older guys who are, like, terrible in bed? Let me think about this. Older guys that are terrible. Yeah. Yeah, I have. Right. I think you sleep around more than I do.

I just don't anymore because I'm... Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you do it for your show. It's content. You're the curious girl that was, like, checking things off on your bucket list. You're like more adventurous than I am. I like typically like what I like and it's like one thing and I could just go back to that well all the time.

I don't need variety, right? But you have way more experiences. You're just like more fun than I am. You know what it is? I think what it is is I'm just more like open to let me try this. Yeah, variety. Even if like, yeah, it's like there's a lot of things that come across my radar where I'm like, I don't think that's a on my radar, right? But then I'm like, well, I'll, I'll try anything three times. That's like my

model. I'm like, okay, let's go. Yeah, I think that's great. I mean, try it, try it. You know, try it, try it, and then, because then I can really say, I can rule it out. Like, it's for me or it's not for me. Because sometimes I really do find things that were absolutely zero percent on my radar. And then when I try them, I'm like, whoa. Like what's an example? Can you think of one? Yes. I can think of lots of things. Just even going to a sex club, going, you know, where you know people are there to fuck. They're there to just size you up. Do I want to fuck you? Am I going to, do we want to mash our parts or not? And that's really a very basic, like, primal thing. Like, you want to either go there and be down with that or not. And, but you. But you. But you. You weren't is what you're saying? Like you were going to give me an example of something that you weren't into and then you tried it and you were. So is that something that you thought, oh, I would never be into that and then you went and you were?

What I didn't think was that I would, because I didn't, I overlooked the benefits of that group scenario and other people. Because it's really like, you know, you're always thinking about your relationship from just the, you and I point of view, him and you. And I see him and you because, you know, I'm heterosexual and, you know, I'm generally just dating guys. But when I went there, it was kind of like, wait a minute. Now, there's this couple, like there's a couple. And together they're hot. I never looked at a couple.

It was like that, them together is hot. and or even just like, well, she's hot. Maybe I'm more drawn to her. I'd never given myself that permission, like to say, you're not making that much sense. But you did go, I never knew, hold on, I never knew that you went to a sex club. Like, did you do that recently or was that something that you checked off your bucket list a long time ago? Oh, it was a long time ago.

Oh, it was. But like did you find that you were like a voyeur? Because I feel like if you're like, you know, you wouldn't, it's like if you're a voyeur, there might be something really hot to sort of watching. Or if you're an exhibitionist, it could be fun. Even if you don't participate to fuck in front of other people watching you for the first time. You know, I would think that those are two big things that would maybe be a part of that experience. You do either, like, did you like get turned on by watching or did you wind up doing anything in front

of people while you were there or were you just observing? So yeah, good question. So I was there and initially I was getting excited about watching other people, how open they were. And then and that was turning my partner and myself on. And so that just kind of like opened this door. And then I was just all about him. And I got super. into turning him on and the excitement of being there and doing this in a public setting. And then she had never appealed to me before. And then once I did and all these people were around me and just watching me. And I could almost feel them breathing on me and him. And it was like, holy shit. They are so turned on by everything that we're doing right now.

and they want to be a part of it. Like, that was, that was an efferdice right there. I was just, I was dripping down with, like, I'd never been that turned on in my life. Like, other people were watching me, and I didn't know that that was even on my radar. Right. But just being there, just getting so fucking hot and turned on.

And then, yeah. Yeah, by being watched. Like, you know, right? by being a little bit of an exhibitionist and having people watch you and stuff, right? I mean, did you only go that one time? Have you been since? Like, is it something that you got really into? Or it was like a one-time deal?

Check it off. No, I've done that a couple times. Yeah, I've done that a couple times. But it's been a while since I've been back with a partner. But now I'm kind of, now I want to explore that by myself, like to really see like, okay, I've done it with someone else there with me. What's it going to be like when I'm by myself? Yeah, you know, listen, there are some women I've had on my show that have gone to a swingers club by themselves.

I think that that takes balls. But like, trust me, you'll be like the prize possession in there if you go. You know, I think a single guy, it's a little bit more like people look down on you and they don't really want you there. But single women, they're just going to be like, you know, they're going to pay you to come to their club. You know, you're the unicorn. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I know. I want to go. I want to feel. I want to know what that's all about. To go, I've only done it, you know, with someone else with me there, like with a partner and having a wing man. And so I kind of feel like it's a little bit of an insecurity to go by myself. Of course. But I want to.

I want to. Because I'm like, I feel like that's going to be so empowering and hot and sexy. And yes, I want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's scary. I could understand why you would be scared to do it. But I think once you got there, people are so welcoming. I mean, that's just what I get.

I've never been to a swingers club. But what I really get from most people and what they tell me is that, you know, the people at swingers clubs are like just super inclusive and really cool and really nice and are really welcoming. So I'm sure you would be okay. And like for you, I mean, that's content for your show. I mean, that's the way you could always look at it. You know what I mean? Like, you have to go.

Don't you? I know. No, I honestly, yes. Because of the content for my show reason, there's a, that gives me this extra little boost of courage that I need when I want to do these things. Like I'm like, this is for your, like, I mean. Yeah, you got to do it. I mean, I like a deadline or a forcing thing, you know.

Yeah. pushes you out of your comfort zone. And I think for you, you could always use that as a way to push you. But you have that because it is the truth, right? You have this show. And let's end with that. Why don't you promote everything that you're doing? Because you do have a private podcast where people do get to see more of you.

I mean, you should maybe go over to my Discord channel. I could let you in for free and you could like promote yourself. I have like maybe 500, 600 people on there now. And you could, you know, try and get people to go over there if you want. But you know, you do have this private place. It's kind of like your own only fans, but you run it yourself, right? Through your website. Why don't you explain that and give a shout out?

Besides your shout out to your podcast, which is Curious Girl Diaries, why don't you shout out your private podcast and explain what people get and where they sign out? Yes. Thank you. So what I've done is, as I've done this, what I've realized is, you know, the more, and you know this, the more we do this in a sort of a commercial. saying we're growing and advancing all that stuff. Like there's things we get censored about.

And so what I love about the private podcast is it's really sort of my, I don't know, my reaffirmation to my first few years, which were just where I was ignorance on fire. Like I had no idea of what the rules were, what the concepts were. I was just out there living my best life and talking about it. And then I realized, oh, sometimes people censor you. They don't want you to talk about this. So the private podcast is really like, if you listen, there's a bunch of people that have listened to that follow me from year like year one when I didn't know that this

was going to actually become a long-term podcast. But just the freedom and the absolute no holds barred, no censoring. Everything I fucking say, that's on the private. Every detail of every encounter sexually. Like I get so, so, so explicit. And I just get to talk about it for the way I experienced it. And also include even if it's like some audio portion of that experience. Like if you want to call it audio erotica or audio porn, I guess that's what you would call it.

But that's just where I get to put all that stuff. And so I really love that I can be that free over there. Right. And they also see picks, kind of. It sounds like it. because you were like, oh, I'm going to put the picture of a pussy. So they will see more of you over there. Yeah, they do see more of me.

It's not like I don't do, again, I don't do, like you're not going to look up my vagina or anything, but you're going to see, you get to see my body and just different things. And, and, you know, I feel more. R-rated or X-rated? Like, what are you, what are you showing? How much R-rated or X-rated? No, it's R-rated. I don't want to be, I don't want to be deceptive and say, like, you know, it's not like you're, like

is it. You're not going to, it's not a porno. You're not going to see of my badge, but you do get to, you get to see racy pictures. You know, I do my, I do my pictures as my cover art of each episode. It's me. And so there's, there's a lot of like, sexuality and stuff. People like R-rated stuff. People pay. Yeah. It's not anything wrong with that. I mean, that's what I always had on my, um, Patreon was R-rated picks of my guest, you know. Yeah. And then, uh, now they do, are, rated stuff on my discord but like are you know R rated stuff people don't get that from you on your regular podcast so I think that that's good and so yeah if people want to find your private podcast they go to your website right the curious girl diaries dot com and they can sign up there yes okay cool I'm gonna put

your uh link to that right that's what you want me to link to right your private pot your website so they could everything's there yes right yeah everything's there you want to follow me on social media do you want to like do my free sex bucket list tutorial if you want to make a sex bucket list you know how to kind of like find some spicy things you want to start knocking off or do you want to listen to my firm podcast it's all there okay awesome i'm going to link there now we're going to do this more often we probably going to get a threesome going with wio from sex stories because we we tried that and it was like a lot of fun um i will include all your links and everything and uh thanks so much for calling in And I will let you know what guys email me about no fap, fap, how much they jerk off, see who wins that bad.

I don't know. We didn't think of that, but I just like to be right. Well, I mean, I don't really actually know, like, who's leading the charge on this. But I have run across more younger guys that are like, no, I'm no fap. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it's interesting. You know, I might not just roll in that area. It's interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. Curious. The whole no-fat thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So awesome. So anyway, thanks so much for calling in and giving me this episode.

It's great. Okay, bye. All right. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you will.

can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the

whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly

anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to a Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.