Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 643 - Sal Enjoys Watching his Wife Hook Up with Other Guys

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

Sal is turned on by seeing his wife hook up with other guys and he called in to talk all about it. When and how did he realize he wanted his wife to hook up with other guys? When did he wind up admitting it to her? And, how did he feel after their first time? Tune in to hear all the details including how communicating always with his wife led to them trying many things, their first experience at a sex club and what went down, the time they went back to the sex club and both hooked up with a trans women together, how and why date nights have been so important in getting his wife to try new things, their visit to an adult bookstore and what exactly went down when they went into a gloryhole and what they enjoyed about it, his wife’s double dipping cheating story from her past and how and why he loved hearing it, how and when he copped to it being a turn on and how she felt about it, how and why they decided to go on to a hook up app and what they started looking for, why she decided to pick the guys she chose to hook up with, how and why the fantasies lea how the younger guy listened to what he should do for his wife and how that helped the first experience, their first hotel hook up and the boundaries they had decided on, what exactly went down and how much he thoroughly enjoyed it, the double bj she gave them and how she copped to that being a fantasy of hers, how and why he recorded it and took photos and how him and the younger guy enjoyed looking at the photos together, how he felt about the reclaiming sex they had, how and why he didn’t allow her to take a shower with the guy afterwards, how she wants to meet guys solo and how and why he’s not into that just yet plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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was so much that led up to it that they did and so much that he has felt since they did it and that's what makes this episode super interesting Sal happens to be a great storyteller too I really didn't have to do much on this fucking episode. But Sal is a guy that, you know, was married, him and his wife. They always had great communication between them. And all of that stuff led to them opening up their relationship recently. But even before that, all their date nights that they had led to them going to like Swingers Club and just like observing.

They had one time where they did something interesting at a Swingers Club. You'll have to listen to hear what that was. They also went to bookstores, adult bookstores a couple times. and went into glory holes. They never played or did anything else, but Dicks were coming in the room while they were in there, like, hook it up and stuff. And he talks all about that.

And he talks about how, like, his girl was promiscuous before she met him and how he always was super turned on to all of her stories. There was one story that was, like, the hottest story to him that he would make her tell him all the time. He tells you exactly what that hot story was that he loved about her past, right? And that led them to fantasizing about her being with another guy. And eventually he got her to decide to go online. They started going on the apps, looking for guys.

You know, there was a lot of failed attempts to meet other guys. He talks all about that. But eventually they found one who they hooked up with. They first had a little bit of a hookup at a swingers club. He talks exactly about that and how hot that went down. because he's a great storyteller. You're going to love all of these stories, right? They're all long and drawn out and super detailed.

And then they wound up taking that same young guy and hooking up with him outside of the club and a hotel, like a total setup first time. She's going to fuck him. He's going to watch. And he gives that story as well. And then it was great. He talks about exactly like I said what went down.

And then how he felt after. There was a little experience afterwards where he felt a little jealous. he talks about that. He talks about what she brought up recently that made him kind of think like, I don't know if I'm into that. We talk all about that too. I mean, Sal is a guy who listened to a lot of my episodes and did a lot of research on this scenario.

I think his episode is going to be one that if anyone's looking to get into this lifestyle is super interesting too because here's a guy that is still a newbie at this. He just had his first experience. So how he's feeling and what they're discussing and how they're going to progress further is interesting to listen to. And I think it's very real life. It's a happy ending story. Okay, it's not like anything went wrong. And they're going to be proceeding forward.

And we're going to need to talk to Sell eventually again six, eight months from now to see where they're at. But it's super interesting to see where they're at now. All of his stories are fucking great. Like I said, you're going to love this episode. You're going to love Sal's storytelling. So I'm going to be right back on with Sal. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?

Hi, Kathy. I'm great. Thank you. So listen, Sal, you just had your first hot wife MFM experience now. And it's like a couple days after and you have some feelings about it. And I'm sure, you know, that's super interesting. Because typically I'm talking to people way down the line, even if they're newbies, you know, they've been doing it for a while and they're calling me when like everything's really great. You know, I don't know how everything is for that guy who first sees his wife, fuck another guy after the first time.

You know, that's where you're at now. But I don't want to know where you're at now just yet. I want to go back and get like the whole story and lead up to that first experience. We'll talk all about exactly what went down. then we'll get to where you are today. But like, you know, how long, like, like, tell me a little bit about your marriage and lead up to the point where you were able to get her to be open to the ex at the, you know, having a threesome. Yeah, no, awesome. You know, we've been married for about 15 years. We have two small kids, house, white picket fence, all of that stuff. But we met each other a little

later in life. So I was 30 and she was in her late 20s. And so we definitely had some, you know, history and experiences before we had met each other. And, you know, loving relationship, we had a lot in common, even our first date. There's just a, we just connected and fell in love and married. And through all the 15 years, you know, I'm pretty sexual. She's pretty sexual. But it's been very vanilla, like between us, right? You know, different positions.

You bring in, you know, vibe toys, sex toys. We went to a couple sex clubs, but never experienced anyone outside of our marriage. It was just completely us. Been to bookstores, took her to a glory hole. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay.

Let's talk about those kinds of experiences because most people, right, I haven't even done that. So like, you know, like how do you get and how do you guys decide to go to a couple, you know, swimmers clubs and what exactly went down? I'm assuming since you said you hadn't really done anything outside of the marriage that you guys just watched. But like, what were those experiences? like and then tell me about the glory hole and all that stuff.

Yeah, again, we're talking 15 years, right? So it's a progression of communication. I think this is also the underlying factor of all of these experiences, is communication. Right. Talking during, you know, our sexual activities, talking during lunch on a date. You know, we definitely keep our date nights and just really communicating in bed, communicating with, you know, out of earshot from the kids. So, and then, you know, every, every now and then we throw some porn on.

And through these, like, discussions, things just progressed, you know. And I throw out little ideas and see that she would bite. Sometimes she would bite. Sometimes she would just, you know, laugh it off. And in a couple of those, you know, she likes to get dressed up. She likes to go dance. She likes to have fun. She likes to dream.

to drink a little bit and, you know, when those were good times to have those discussions. And, you know, we started like a date night. I'm a planner, Kathy. So I, you know, I kind of like to set things up, especially with kids. You don't have a lot of time. So I try to maximize our date nights as much as possible, hit four or five different spots. And in one particular night, I knew there was a club happening. I didn't necessarily tell her. We went to dinner. We had some drinks, did a little dancing, and just let her know, hey, you know, I know of another spot. And we went to it. She was open to it.

We went to it. And it was in the city, a big, big, big, like, warehouse type of thing, a lot of activity. And we didn't partaking anything. We just watched. She got excited. We made out. But it wasn't anything where we introduced another person or played with another person. You know, then we, you know, maybe a year later, another date night.

we'd go and do the same. One particular, I think the second time at the club, we met, she's very social and likes to talk to people and get to know people. And in one particular, we met this girl, beautiful girl. It turned out she was a transsexual, but, you know, we party. And so, yeah, hi. And we got to the point where I think I ended up, we were in one part of the club and I ended up sucking her, the girl's breast and she started sucking the other breasts and we were just kind of like dizzy and the next day you know we were up in the room and then I kind of you know shied away a little bit and we pulled back and that was our experience for that night so I'm very protective of our relationship and I because I know at times my wife likes to have fun and she can she has a hard time saying no so I'm pretty protective of the relationship and decided, you know, to be very like methodical in the approach of our growth in our sexual lives. Yeah, but I have to just interrupt you because people get mad that I do, but I'm so glad that I forced you to slow down through your story because you would have blown over the fact that you guys like hooked up with a fucking a hot trans girl in a swingers club.

You were not prepared. You were just like blown past that in that story. Well, again, we're talking 15 years of journey. Yeah, I need it all. We got an hour. You got to tell me these things. This is like, listen, because this is important. Like, look what it brings up about your girl.

Now we learn that she is the type that like she doesn't say no. You know that. That's why you bring it up like, you know, when you're in the car. Like, hey, you want to go to a swingers club? Because you know, that's how she rolls. She's going to be like all in, right? Because she's loose and having fun, whatever. You know, but these are the kinds of things that.

I think are important to the story, for sure. Yeah, she's, you know, she, there's a lot of love in our relationship. I take care of her. She takes care of me. We have a solid, solid marriage and relationship. Obviously, and what I love. And she wants to please me, right? And, and, yeah, it wants to see me happy.

And so, yeah, she's willing to try things up. But what I love is your date nights. Like, really quick, I know exactly where we are, and I'm going to get back to your story. But, like, who initiated those date nights and how were you as a couple able to, make sure that you continue to do that because I feel like that's like one of those things that's like in every book about couples and marriage you know you should do a date night you know it's like that thing but I think the majority of people just don't do that right and but you guys do it and you've

continue to do it and I think that that's like a really uh important thing right I mean it's probably super helpful like why and how did you I think it's because you roll the way that you do because you're so intentional and you think about it so much. I don't think most guys are like you. Well, I hear that a lot, right? Yeah. But I love my wife. I like to have fun.

I mean, yes, we have kids. I'm not as paternal, I think, as she is, definitely. Yeah. You know, so I provide for my kids take care of them. I do the father. They take him to baseball, take football, you know, all of that stuff. But I love my wife. Like we had a relationship before the kids and we had fun before the kids.

And so at this point, it's important for me to still feel that. Like I feed off of that, right? I plan the next time that we want to go out because we have fun. Yeah, that's really smart, though. And the fact that you took that on as the guy, I think is like really important for other men to hear. Because so many times in this part of a relationship, a marriage, when kids come into play, the wife gets super involved in the children. she's not going to be thinking about the fucking date nights.

I'm sorry. She's like super involved. But you, if you take it on, right? You know, it pays off. It pays off.

And it does. And I also like to take care of her. So I buy her things, right? I have a kind of a shoe fetish, so I'll buy her some sexy shoes. But I have lingerie. I buy her sexy lingerie.

I buy her dresses that I like to see her in. And so it's just perfumes, you know, purses every now and then just to show her how much, I think about her and care for her. And that's, you're right. It all adds up. Oh, my God.

Allow us to these things. Yeah, because listen, you're getting a lot out of it, but it's not, it doesn't come off as selfish. Like the guy just wants to get fuck so he's doing whatever. Like, you're giving her so much by doing all that stuff. You're making her feel wanted. You're giving her comments. You're doing all the things that every woman wants her guy to do.

And everyone's fucking happy. Her and you, you know, I just think it's important to talk about this stuff because I think most people don't do these kinds of things in their marriage. And so I think people could learn from you. So, okay, so now you get that girl, that time you go and you hook up with that trans girl, like do you talk about that afterwards? Like, I mean, how did you both feel about that situation? Yeah, you know, that one happened many, many years ago, Kathy. And so, you know, yes, there was a bit of a high there. And at that point, you know, that's something I think that opened up in me that we haven't moved on, I would like to maybe experience being with a trans girl and her.

I think we, I think maybe a few days after we looked at a three-way porn with trans and a couple. But then at that point, it kind of fizzled and we just folded it up and put it away maybe for another day type thing. Yeah, yeah. My next thing was for, we were at a bookstore and another date night, went to a bookstore and there were booths on the back of the bookstore. So it took to the back of the bookstore booths and lo and behold, there's a hole. And so then that was kind of the next venture where we were like, wow, this is a glory hole.

And nothing happened that night. But, you know, I started then getting kind of fixated in glory holes and bookstores. And, you know, for maybe one year, we were, you know, it was a lot of gloryhole porn and a few gloryhole visits. Now, nothing to the point where, you know, she would actually, you know, blow a guy. I think one time touched, but there were a lot of times it was us having sex and then dicks were in the holes and that was going through the holes and that was pretty much it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's kind of like, you know, hot enough, right?

Yeah, no, definitely. I mean, I remember one time we were there and I was eating her out and a big black cock fucking appeared and she was surprised. and again, we're kind of shy and taking things, you know, step by step. And at times I kind of regret, regret, because I would have definitely loved her to grab that thing and just start sucking on it. But it didn't happen, right? I kind of like, you know, didn't, I left it up to her and it didn't happen because she didn't, she didn't move forward. But, and that didn't push.

And so, but yeah, you know, I think that was, it's been that kind of approach. And I hope, I think that I feel like that kind of helps build trust. Yeah. Where she knows I'm in, you know, her best interest. I'm taking care of her. I'm not just, you know, going for that, that quick, bam, bam type of thing. Yeah. And that's, it's her decision.

You're leaving it up to her. Yeah. You're not pushing her. I think that that's super important for sure. But I could imagine that that's like hot for both of you kind of. Right. Yeah, no, definitely. You know, bring it up later in while we're having sex.

And yeah, that's how these progressions go, right? These new ideas, we come across maybe a porn. and we started thinking about it. Now, as I mentioned, as we get to this MFF, half-wife thing, my wife has history. You know, she was bit promiscuous in high school and in college before she met me. I mean, we promiscuous. I mean, I was promiscuous. Everyone, I think, right? All our sexual adventures before marriage. And I enjoyed hearing her stories. And there's one in particular that really would set me off each time. And through our 15 years, I'd have her retell it to me in more detail. and ask questions because it would really set me off.

Okay, let's hear that story. Yeah, it turns out. My wife, she had a boyfriend, and the boyfriend wasn't paying too much attention to her. So she was upset with him, and my wife can be a little bit of a brat, a little spoiled brat at times. There's some daddy things going on there. And so, you know, she met a guy at a bar, went out with her friends, met a guy at a bar, ended up going with the guy to the car, and they had some.

sex in the car. And, you know, as I've asked more and more, it turns out no condom was used. It was, you know, just bareback. And he came in her. And then she, I think, kind of like, a little vindictive and wanted some revenge or upset that her boyfriend wasn't paying attention to her. Then after that was done, she called her boyfriend and said she wanted to see him and went over to his house and had sex with him. Again, also bear back in no condom. And so that's story right there, Kathy, I think, really just blew my fucking head. And yeah,

you know, I think that was kind of the start of where we're at now. Yeah. We had a Valentine's Day dinner this year. And even before that, we've had conversations or even kind of in our sexual acts, I bring up, bringing another guy and she'd pretend like she'd be grabbing

another cock and blowing it while I'm fucking her type stuff. But nothing really, you know, like actual, actual doing it. And so this, year went to Valentine's Day dinner wonderful dinner and over dinner we had a couple drinks and then I said you know why don't you tell me that story again of the two guys and one night with no condom and she laughed and would tell and I'd ask her questions and of course she says she regrets it shy which she wish it didn't happen but I would prod and poke and then and eventually I told her I said

you know I love that story I enjoy hearing it a lot of your because there's a few other stories there I told her I wish I was there to witness it because it turns me the fuck on. And so that's how it kind of started. So that night, you know, took her to a little show, took her to another bar. And then there was a what I said, hey, it's, it's Valentine's, the sex club, we've gone to a couple times or have a Valentine's Day Party. Let's go to the party. Let's see if, you know, you can, I'd like to see you flirt, see if you find somebody. Went to the party.

It was kind of a, there was a lot of people was kind of grimy. and nothing really there, but it was, I think, a step, right? Towards it. Then I would say right after that, we opened up a app, one of these apps and opened up a profile on the app. It was a field and put her profile up there.

I put a couple pictures up of her. I wrote a little something in where we're at, what we were looking for. And, you know, and left that a couple days later, opened it up. She had like 300, you know, views, 300 connections and gave her the phone and said, hey, look, these are 300 guys that liked your profile and wanted to chat. So she went through all 300. She eliminated 298 of them and ended up with just two. Okay, quick question. Yeah, go for it.

I want to know, you know, because you're going on this app now looking for a guy, I'm assuming you guys set up. some parameters like what was the deal were there any rules or regulations like what you know what what what were you guys looking for at that point were you ready to do like a full swap you were going to be there you know what was the setup you know there really wasn't it was yeah we didn't sit we didn't talk about rules yeah i think in her mind and maybe in mind it was still fantasy yeah right okay and so i didn't want to limit fantasy yeah yeah yeah just to keep it wide open and we really really really didn't get to that point yet. It was just to see what's out there.

Just take a look. I wanted her to see guys. I wanted to see if there was an attraction. What kind of guy she interested in? What was she looking for? But you're like a couple on there looking for a guy, right? And you want a guy to fuck your wife. I mean, that's the answer.

Yeah, that was how it was presented. Yeah. And now how hot is your wife? She's beautiful. She's, I would say, one of ten, she's about an eight. You know, for me, she's a ten. Yeah. But she's not a supermodel, right?

And then she's, she's in her mid-40. She's had a couple kids. But, you know, she's, she's thick, and I love it. Yeah. But she's sexy. She's sexy as hell. And she has a great personality. She's loving.

She's caring, spiritual. She's very empathetic. I mean, she's like a freaking hot, you know, Mother Teresa. Like, yeah, she loves people. Yeah, she has it all. Yeah. She has it all. She's an angel.

Yeah, yeah. And sexy. Yeah. Loves to have fun, laughs, makes, meets people. people really really easily, you know, connects and a professional. Smart. I mean, total package. Right.

So you put her up on there and you get like 300 hits. Now what is she, when she picks those two guys, like what was it about those two guys? Like, what was she looking for that stood out? It was funny. She said they reminded me of me. Oh. They reminded her of me. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Just younger, younger, younger, better, you know, more fit, you know, and younger. Yeah. That's so funny. Okay. So she's like, is she looking for like, you know, I'm assuming if these guys are sending in picks, they're sending in dick picks. Like, I mean, was she concerned about size? Was any of that an issue?

Because a lot of times in these kind of fantasies, the bigger dick, even for the guy, is a part of the fantasy. You know, I definitely would love to see it. But no, that wasn't. For her? Not for her. Right. No. It was baby steps, right?

Yeah. So it was really, I think for her, there's this. the connection is a little more important than the size. But for some reason. Yeah, first time, right? But for some reason, guys like you, okay, that want to see their girl with someone, they do want the guy to have a big dick.

That is a part of the fantasy for the guy a lot of times, right? Yes. And I would love to see it. But again, I'm happy that we're even, you know, at this point, I'm happy that we're going to this step. I don't want to definitely put the cart before the forest. Yeah, you don't want to tell her she needs to fuck a Coke can for you to be happy. And here's a quick pro tip for your listeners.

Yeah. You know, what caught her eye were these guys that had pictures with dogs. I don't know. They show their animal lover, they're caring. But that was the one, those are the ones that she kind of looked at a little longer. Oh, my God. I love that you brought that up. That is super important for these guys that are out there salivating.

Like, how do I get to fuck some guy's wife? Like, yeah, put a dog in the picture. You just go rent one for the day. Your friend's dog. I mean, that's like made her feel safe. Exactly. Yeah, I get it. That's important, right?

Safety. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, lo and behold, we connected with one guy. And the app, it allows you to do like a three-way conversation. And over the course of about three, four weeks after our Valentine's Day dinner, we were connecting with this one guy. And going back and forth, it progressed. He was a really good talker.

He would send her picks. It really got her into this, or, you know, another step closer to fantasy becoming reality. Yeah. And oh my God, and our sex just like kicked it up a few notches to the point where she started squirting. We would have sex. Wow. And so she had never before?

She had a couple times. But I mean, literally I can probably count on one hand the number of times I had made her squirt. Yeah, yeah. But at this point, I would say since Valentine's, I mean, she's definitely in the 40s and 50s. I mean, it's almost every time that we're having sex, she's wet in the bed. So it's been awesome, you know, and I can see it in her eyes. I mean, it just, it kind of, it started, right? It planted the seed and it's now the seed sprouted.

Yeah. And so we were to the point where let's get together with this guy. And we set up a date. And as it turns out, like in this lifestyle, the day of the date, we're ready, right? I mean, it's not easy as parents with small kids to get someone to watch the kids and all of that, right? So we were ready and we dressed up as we were getting dressed. We get a text from him and he says that he partied and wasn't feeling well. Oh, fuck.

Where were you going to do the deed? Like, did you have a hotel room or something? Oh, you know, this was going to be a meet. Just a meeting. Oh, okay. Right. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. No, no. Yeah, it was a meeting. I forgot. I forgot both. We never know, right? Maybe it would have happened. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah. We were just as a meeting greet. Yeah. And so, yeah, he told us he couldn't make it. And so honestly, I was, I think I was more heartbroken than she was. Yeah. Because I was really excited about the idea. She saw kind of how disappointed I was.

And she's like, you know what? Let's just go out and just go have fun. I go, yeah, let's do our normal, you know, dinner bar, maybe go dancing, have fun. So we did that. Went to the beautiful dinner. Went to rooftop bar. had some drinks after. There was a club that's close to our home.

I said, why don't we go to the club and would you be up to maybe walking in by yourself and seeing if you can meet somebody or just, I told her, I'd like to see you in an element where you're by yourself. You know, she'd go to the club a lot when she was younger, and I'd like to see what you do, right? And so she was up for it.

So I went to the club, dropped her off. I said, like, I'm going to drop you off. You walk in, I'll get parking, I'll meet you inside. And that's what we did. And so dropped her off. She went inside the club. I went to park and walked in.

And when I walked in, she was at a bar. She was talking to a girl. She was talking to a guy already, very social, having fun. And then she went to go dancing with the girl. I asked her if she wanted to go dance. And I'm over there like a freaking peeping tomboyer. You know, the corner. We're like super excited just watching the show.

Yeah. And she's dancing away. And then lo and behold, an ex-co worker on Mike comes up and says, No fucking way. It was totally like not meant to be that night. And so the ex-co worker is like, hey, I hadn't seen her in a couple years. Like, oh, hey, how's it going? She's like, what are you doing here?

I'm here with my wife. I'm looking for her. I can't find her. I went in a point. And so then I like, oh, there she is. And I was afraid that, you know, if my wife saw me talking to a, girl that she didn't know, then that would kind of, you know, stop our progression into this MFF hot wife thing because that is definitely a concern.

God, he is, you know, look, you want to do this because you want to get with another girl, right? You're making me do this because you're setting me up for something in the future. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I walk my coworker to her. I go, oh, there she is. I walk my coworker to her and we talk this and that. And that was pretty much the night, except towards the end, I was at the bar. I told my wife, hey, why don't she go dance out there again?

And she went and danced. And then this African-American gentleman came up to her and started dancing with her. And I was like, oh, shit, this is great. This is happening. And I'm there drinking, trying to be cool, but not trying to stare too much because I can see them. And they're having a conversation. She's laughing. He's laughing.

They're dancing and getting closer. And I'm like, in my mind, like, great. I'm going to get a room. We're going to go have party. I'm building all this up. And after a couple's songs, she's walking towards me. I'm looking out of the corner of my eye.

I'm facing the bar being cool. She walks behind me, stands behind me. He's following her. And I think I kind of chickened out. And then she came up to me next to me and started talking. And he went away and walked away. Oh, okay. Yes.

So nothing happened. And I think it turns out she ended up, she told me, she told him that I'm at, here. He wasn't really feeling that. And he, so, you know, he went away. So nothing, of course, nothing happened. But again, another step in progress. Now I get to see my wife dancing with, you know, a strange

man. And those, you know, how exotic, how horny that made me and made her, went back home and, you know, had a great, had a great sex night. So it wasn't a total loss, right? Even though we didn't get to meet. You're still edging and it's like four play

and it's still a fucking turn on because you're literally like right there, right about for it to happen and it's still a turn on. I could understand that. Totally turn on. Yeah. So a couple days after that, she said, you know what? I want to have my own profile. She said in the, in this app. Great. So she created her own profile. A lot less, a lot less sexier than the one I created for her. But, you know, to that point that she's looking for, we're looking for an MFF, maybe hot wife situation. And she got hits. And so, you know, she had a couple guys. I call it the, I call it stable. She had a few in the stable there that she was kind of talking to. But again, we're busy.

We have kids and show a lot of these guys were tech. She would ignore. She'd get back to them a few days later. It was pretty a slow progression. And then, you know, a month later, it was another date. And I go, you know, I was on, because we've had a fat light profile that we had opened in our exploration, but nothing came of it. I went up back on the Fedlight profile. I saw the events. I saw there was a sex club or sex dance. party open to all. And so then that week I saw it and I sent her the note and I said, Hey, you want to go to this?

She's like, yeah, let's go. What was great about it is that they had DJs. She loves to dance. And so they had like three or four DJs playing that night in different rooms. And it was a sex party. So something I wanted. So it was a great combination of both. So I noticed though the list, because you can kind of see a list of the people that

we're going. No one really looked like me. And I didn't think she'd maybe be into too many of the guys there. It wasn't really her type. And so what I did on FetLife, I said that we were going to this party, just kind of announce it. And then I told her, I said, you know, hey, why don't you let you let you let you all know that we're going to this party? And if they want to meet and greet, you know, come to the party. And so she did that. She sent messages to three or four the guys that she was kind of chit chatting with to say, hey, we're going to this party. And We're going to be there. You want to meet. Come meet us. Let's meet us. Let's meet. And it turns out one of them said, yes, I'd love to and bought tickets and ended up showing up that night. Wow. Okay. He was serious. He was serious. Yeah. And what was great about him is that young, looked great, very handsome, and respectful. Because throughout the night, he was given us ETAs of his arrival.

I guess you had a busy day and he said, look, I'm about an hour away. I'm going to go shower. I'll be there and then another one. I'm here at the door. You're very real, real, maybe eager, but very respectful. Yeah, yeah. Women love that. And as a husband, I do too, right?

Because, again, this is like, is my wife, you know, respect us, respect me, respect our time. Yeah, I love that. I really communicate is important. Communication is important. So, yeah. Another tip to guys out there, right? Definitely. Yeah. So, you know, we walked in, met people, talked about getting to know the lifestyle, experiences. He shows up and walks by and she's like, I think that's him. I said, go get him. So I was talking to this gentleman here. Another guy there about his experience where he was telling me that his wife was on a date night and he was there looking for son. I was just an amazing, the lifestyle is amazing. And so she went and go talk to him and brought him over, introduced me, Google. looking guy, real stacked. I mean, he was, he was pumped and fit, had the muscles and everything,

and young, in college. But I think graduating, so he's made about 24, 25. And great. So I let them talk on the couch, and I was still having a really good conversation with another guy that was there about, you know, hit the lifestyle with him and his wife, hot wife, and MFF just getting tips. And then I went back to my wife and him. We got some drinks. I said, let's go dance. started dancing i led them to the dance floor i stepped back they were dancing i got a little closer i occasionally would walk up and start sandwiching her in the middle me and him and just throwing compliments you look great just talking to her this is awesome reassuring her that was okay this you look sexy doesn't she look sexy he's yes she looks sexy this is awesome come to find out he had never been with a couple

before this was his first time as well, which I think also helped overall because it allowed for things to, it took a lot. I think for us, it took pressure off the situation. Yeah. We knew we weren't going to be taking advantage of and there wasn't an agenda, bam bam. He was willing to go along at our pace, I think, is what helped. So I had drunk a little too much, how to go use the restroom. I asked her, is it okay? Can I leave you here with him on the dance floor? she's like no no problem so i went to go uh go to the restroom long line come back to the dance floor they're gone it's like oh shit they're gone oh my mind she's in a corner fucking him you know and i'm like where the hell did they go uh walked the the place found them in the patio

outside they were talking on the sofa she was getting to know him sitting together he had his arm around her. So I sat across from them and just smiled because I felt like this was great. She was having a conversation. She knew his arm was around her and she looked comfortable. And so again, more compliments is great, getting to know each other. This is hot. Then we talked a little bit about age and she was a little concerned that he was young. I said, oh no, you know, I threw out there. I said, it's his birthday today. He's actually 30-something. And she said, oh, it's your birthday and we started laughing and joking. And I told her, why don't you give him a birthday kiss? And so she laughed and she's a birthday kiss and he's like, yeah, that'd be great. He turned.

She was going to give him a peck. He turned his face and it was a kiss. And not only a kiss, a kiss with an open mouth, then tongue, then more tongue, more open mouth for about what seemed like freaking minutes. Right. And then it was, they stopped. We all looked at each other. She looked at me, worried, I think. And I just smiled and nodded.

And I mean, if I could, I would have gave two thumbs up to show that it was fun. Right. It was all good. I said, this is, that was great. I told me, this is hot. This is hot. That is great. And so she smiled.

And then I said, you know, why don't we go explore? Let's go check out the rest of the place. Went to one room. It was a little bit of everything of the lifestyle. There was a BDSM room. And there was a girl on a bench getting smacked and getting fucked. There was another girl on a cross getting her pussy electrocuted with someone. It was a scene.

Another one was roped up. And then there was a big throne type chair. My wife was leading the way. leading us both and she said what is this chair and he quickly said oh it's a pleasure chair and so she's like oh and you'll have a seat

and she had a seat and then he told her with your legs open and she opened her legs and next thing I knew Kathy he was bent over kissing her his hands were roaming and he put his hands inside her pussy it was hot I felt like I was like

one of those you know kids that that are trying to peep through a hole. We could have tried to see the show. And I couldn't see the show. All I saw was his back. I see his hands roaming. And I'm trying to get the best spot to get the whole view.

Hilarious. And next I heard her say pineapple. And previously in our conversations, we did talk a little about safe words and stuff. I don't know how the conversation. It wasn't really boundaries or anything. It was just kind of like a natural conversation about because it was kind of a kinky spot. And we said safe word. We're talking about fruits.

We were saying, we're naming fruits and one of them was, well, it turns out she said pineapple. And that's her safe. And he backed off. Yeah. And that was the same. That's how we established a stave. And he backed off. And come to find out, he put his hand on her throat while he was fingering her and put a little much, too much pressure.

But, you know, she said the word and he backed off. And it turned, I think it still turned her on because she likes to have, not to be forced, but likes some. pressure on parts of her potty. And so I think it turned her on. So we, we, we, we've got up and explored a little more. He said he had to go to the restroom. I was so freaking horned up. I told her, it's my turn. I put her there on a bench. I undid my pants and took out my, my dick. And then she started blowing me. He walks up after the restroom and he sees me and this, we sees us in this position with her head, with her mouth on my dick. And he pulls it. He's like, oh shit, and he unbuckles

his hands and pulls his dick out. And so that she looks at me and I'm smiling and she reaches for it and starts to jerk him, jerk him on. And it came, I guess he asked if he can have some of that.

She's asked him if she had a condom, if he had a condom. And again, with my control and safety, the last thing I wanted her to do the next night or next morning say, how did you allow me to do this? Why did you let me do that? I said, you know, why don't we just back off?

You know, this is not really this. I'm kind of a romantic too, Kathy. This wasn't really the place, I think, for our first time. Right. Okay. Like I said, girl getting electrocuted with a wand over there. And then, you know, being fucked by the, yeah, a paint. Yeah.

So I said, let's back off. Which was no point. And he would, the other thing that I liked, the bottom, no pressure. He's like, oh, no problem. I get it. Yeah. And he backed off. He dipped himself up.

I put myself away. We got up. I said, you know, I think we've done enough tonight. Let's head downstairs. We had downstairs, drank a little more. And then he asked if he could walk us to our car. It was like we're on a date. It was great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He walked us to our car. And then we said our goodbyes. And the goodbye for them was they made out in front of our car, super hot. And so we said, okay, we'll be in touch. She got in the car. First things out of her. her word were, was, I am so fucking horny and hot.

I could just squirt all over your dashboard. And so I was like, this is great. She loved it. She felt comfortable. She enjoyed herself. Another step towards what ultimately happened this weekend. So a couple days or a day, I think the next day, I reached out to him. I got his phone number.

I said, hey, we like, she likes you. We like to get together. We're bit busy. Are you free this date? and it was last weekend, but it was about three weeks out, right? We were pretty busy over the war weekends. I guess we have family obligations, a lot of events. So we set a date for this day for Saturday, last Saturday.

And I said, well, I'm going to get a hotel close to where you live. And that's what I did. I reserved a really nice hotel. I wanted to make sure again that this was all special for her. Reserved a really nice hotel. And up to those three weeks, we talked a lot about it. And I think that that was kind of the details of how we got to where we got. It was a lot of, are you sure you want me to do this?

Yes, I'm sure. It's okay. Will you still love me? Are your feelings going to change from me? No, they're not. It was, you just want to set me up. You're going to use this against me. No, I'm not.

As a matter of fact, let's record a video right now with me saying how much, this is all my idea. So if you ever go to court, you could use the video against me. It is all my idea. I told her, you're not doing this because you want to. You didn't look for this, right? I presented this to you because this is what I want. So there shouldn't be any forms of guilt here, right? This is my fantasy that I want reality.

You never told me that you wanted this. And so, yeah, it's true. She agreed. And these were the conversations, right? And in between our sex was just, just incredible. And we talk more, we, sex talk and fantasy, more fantasies about him. We brought, I brought him into the fantasy while we were having sex and, you know, it was awesome, awesome sexual experience. Are we good? Am I talking too much? Oh, no, I love it.

Like it's part, yeah, no, you're doing perfect. It's so good. I love that you're dragging it out, but like you're telling the story really well. Like seriously, people, it's like a fucking great episode. Just keep going. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. Okay. So, yeah. So, you know, through all this time, I think really starting of Valentine's, I've been listening to your podcast and I've been researching, hearing all, trying to get the best advice. Again, really important for me that this went off perfectly, that she enjoyed herself because ultimately I wanted, I think I wanted more. I want us to explore, right? I also felt liberated. Like I felt like I'd be keeping something inside, a sexual desire inside that may, I was a shrewd. shamed of, maybe embarrassed of, and afraid that she would tell me no. And by her being open to it, it made me happier. It made me appreciate her more, the relationship more, which is funny, right?

I mean, we're talking 15 years. And I still kind of held some of these things back. And so it was a wonderful feeling. And so I wanted to make sure everything went well. So I research, right? Listening, again, mentioned this year, podcast, reading, reading logs. And a lot of it, was one particular guest that you had was very he said he was I think this was like he was a bull that turned into a oh yeah I know him yeah he's great jay he said one thing that stood out to me is that he said he was involved yeah with the other man he texted the other man he told him the secrets right of his wife the pleasure points of so smart yep right and so I took that to heart and he's and I also took to heart what he said if the other man is bothered that I'm texting him too much then

he's not the man for us. Yeah. And I think that kind of goes to the benefit of maybe another pro tip there, but also the fact that this other guy was new. And he was open to my suggestions. And I would text him. I said, hey, send her a pick of this. Tell her that you know, you're looking forward to it.

And he would you do just that? It got to the point where I felt like he was either an extension of me or a puppet. And so that kind of made things easier for me as well, right? as I'm a director, now I'm directing him and I'm directing her. It was, it was, it was, it's actually interesting. And so, so yeah, so also read, you know, make things special. Set the room up. Get the lube.

Get the condoms. Get the dildos. Get the, you know, be prepared, right? Get the anal plug just in case. Also provide, get snacks, right? Get the juice. Get the water. The sodas, the candies, right?

Because you're, you don't know what's going to happen. You may spend the night. You may not. You have multiple sessions. Just get the alcohol. alcohol, just be very, get the music, right? Get the candles. Get the just be very, set the mood, the importance of setting the mood.

Because me, again, it was a special moment. It's kind of weird, I guess, or funny, but I felt like I was giving her away in a sense. And it was ceremony, like, it was going to be like a ceremony of seeing another man inside my wife. You know, we even talked about should I grab his cock and push it and put it in? you. The first time. Right, right. Give her away.

First time, right? We were like high schoolers. We're losing our virginity. Yeah, yeah. Excited. Yeah. So we set it up. And so, you know, the thing was going to be.

We'll meet at the hotel bar. And from there, go to the room. And so that day, you know, packed our bags, had bought her a sexy dress that she put on, her sexy shoes that I put. She put on. She looked great. She did her makeup. We took shower together. I shaved her. And it almost felt like, you hear this a lot, right? The preparation. And so, you know, we went, we drove to the hotel. We texted him. He was, again, very responsive. I'm here. I'll be here.

ETA this. Looking forward to it. You know, again, very, a lot of the stuff that I told him to tell her. and we were in the at the bar waiting for him she was nervous i asked her what she would do when she saw him and we kind of joke she's like maybe you know he doesn't look like what i remember him and he maybe thinks that i don't look like what you know he remembers those types of things so it's too good to be true because it's finally going to happen exactly and he actually had to pick up some family at an airport and that kind of delayed and so i'm thinking oh he's probably going to tell us, you know, you can't make it.

You can't make it. The flight was late. Yeah. And so, but no. We were at the hotel and, you know, got a text. I'll be there in 20 minutes. Another text. I'm walking up to the bar now. And he showed up and looked good.

I mean, I don't know if he did some extra, you know, weightlifting because he was jacked, tight shirt. And, you know, he was great. Sat down. gave each other hugs, shook his hands. sat down, ordered drinks. Very respectful.

Turns out he was graduating from college this week. And so this was kind of his graduation from the university. So it was a good time for him. And we talked, nothing very, you know, it's a little quiet. Does she look great? Yeah, he looked great. Just some small chit chat about him,

just getting to know him a little more than about us. And then I said, so I think, how does the show? we just take this up to the room. And my wife's like, I'm not quite ready yet. Let me just finish the drink. I'll be here,

the eager beaver. And she's like, oh, let me just finish the drink. And then he said, you know, let me get up. I'll go use the restroom.

So he went to go use the restroom. And my wife said, you know, I want to use the restroom too, but I want to use it in the room. I was like, okay, no problem. I'll give you the key.

We'll meet you up there. She's like, so she left. And that was actually a really good point because when he came back, this is where we talked about boundaries. And we talked about the safe word again, pineapple. And so I said, and actually, I kind of skipped over that, but during those three weeks while we waited, we did talk a little bit

about, we did talk about boundaries, you know, no pain, no scat, no pee, everything covered, no man on man. It was strictly all focusing energies on her. And so we, I, you know, reviewed that with him again and he was no problem so then we walked up to the room went to the room and she was there sitting on a chair looking beautiful i asked her did she want to drink and she's like yeah let's make a drink so made the drink turned on the music started you know sat we all sat next to her she was on a sofa in the room and uh i said doesn't she look great again so sexy love those shoes love her dress and i said oh you know i didn't tell you I said she's not wearing any panties.

And he goes, oh, really? I go, yeah. And so I grabbed her leg and it kind of opened. I put my leg on her on her leg and she opened and showed him. And then she scooted even more to show more, opened up her legs wider. And he put his hand on her thigh and moved it up and started rubbing her. And I said, why don't we take this to the bed? And she got up and he got up. and they went on the bed.

And that's how it started. They started kissing. I didn't know what to do, honestly. Should I join? Should I not? We didn't have conversations. But I felt like, you know what? I wanted them to have a moment to connect.

And so I grabbed my phone. We had discussed before about pictures. Yeah, I was going to put pictures in video. My wife was against it. He said no problem with no face. And I pulled the phone. She told me no, but it wasn't really a hard no. So I know my wife's hard nose.

And so I grabbed it and started taking pictures. And it was awesome. They were making out. Let me just tell you. I know there's some couples don't like kissing and all that. Yeah, it sounds like that was never a rule for you guys. It was hot for you. No.

I think because on our first meeting it happened and it was hot as fuck. Yeah. Seeing her mouth open. Tongues darting. very passionate. And so they were doing that. And then he unzipped, you know, he unzipped his pants, took off his shirt. She still had her dress, but it was like a tube dress. There was really, you know, it was no problem staying on. And they started touching, grabbing, and more kissing. And I'm there, you know, I would step close to her, walk up to her, put my hand on her,

grab her ass, touch her pussy, just to kind of show. show her that I was there and that everything was okay, right, moving forward. And one of the things we said that would be okay, would be for them to kind of grind without protection. And she did that, which for me was also hot. You know, she got on top of him and just rubbed her pussy on his dick. And it was fucking amazing. Then she would lean forward and she was smacking her dick, his dick with on her ass,

super sexy and then she got off and I said why don't you give him a blowjob she looked at him he said yes she looked at me I said yes and then she said grab a condom

I said you know why don't you just give him a couple kisses without a condom on the shaft she laughed because I think she knew where I was going she did that he was on his back she leaned forward and gave him kisses on his shaft moving up towards the head and looked at me when she got to his head i nodded she opened her

mouth and there you go it was a hot blowjob and yeah yeah she did it and did it went to town it was great and you know videotaping she's like put put the phone down i go this is too hot i can't i'll I'll erase it later. And, you know, yeah, which I'm glad I did because afterwards, it turned her on looking at these videos and looking at these pictures. Yeah, okay. And it was great to have. But so, yeah, and then I, and then she's like, I wanted inside me. And so we put the condom on.

And that was it. She went inside. He went inside her. And she mounted him. And they did. And he went to, he went to town. And then at that point, I was feeling very, very. aroused and horny. So I think they had enough time together. I pulled my dick out. She was on her

back. He was on top of her. I put it by her mouth. She started sucking. But still, I kind of felt like this is awesome, but I want to watch more than to participate. I also had read and had heard on your blog and also read on your podcast and also heard on blogs that sometimes for women, three-sums with two men, it kind of is a lot. And it's hard for them to orgasm because they're more focused on the men, right, pleasing the men. Right. You didn't want to ruin things. Yeah, I didn't want to ruin that.

Yeah, so I backed off and just watched her. And it was a lot of that, a lot of fucking, a lot of changing positions. I would walk up and do a couple touches, present my cock. And then at one point, they took a break.

We had water. And then, you know, jelly beans were a hit. So we had some jelly beans. Hilarious. And I put the pillow down on the floor. I said, okay, I want to blowjob. She got on her knees. She started sucking me.

He came close. It was the whole, you know, porno scene of the woman on her knees, dick in her mouth, another man walking up to her jerking him off, then switching off, sucking him, jerking me off, switching back,

switching back and forth, back and forth. And she did that for a good while. we again we're edging I was edging she's like I want more dick she went on the bed he put another condom on and went to town again and I think in total we spent about an hour and a half finally he had enough and he wanted to come they were in the moment he was on top again and he's like I want to come where can I come she's like come inside me which was freaking hot and And he went to town, increased the speed. They were pumping. She was making sounds that I haven't heard in a long time. It was freaking amazing the sounds that they were making.

And the other thing is, you know, which is the whole porno start aspect of it, seeing your wife as a porno star. I saw, I was different viewpoints. Things that you know, we've been together 15 years. Things that you never can see because you're there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Awesome. Yeah. I was looking at her ass jiggling a certain way, looking at her tids bouncing a certain way. You know, the kids seen it. I mean, it was interesting. And so it was great. And so also capture that. And then that was it. He's, I'm coming. She's coming. And so they came. And she got off of him, sat next to him. And something else we talked. about a date before. I said, well, what are you going to do with? I said, would you be interested in taking out the condom and then putting, you know, and pouring his cum over your breast and rubbing it all over your breast? And she laughed and she didn't say no.

So after she got off of him, I said, we'd pull off the condom and put his come on you. And she laughed and told him that there was something that we talked about. Of course, he wasn't going to say no. So she took the condom off and turned it upside down and put all of his come on her breast. And she started, you know, putting all over her body, rub it in like lotion, which was hot as fuck.

And then I told her to clean his cock off with her mouth. And she laughed and bent over and started sucking them. And I told her to suck all the cum out of him. And she did that. she got it and she looked at me lifted off of him stuck her mouth out her tongue out open her mouth stuck her tongue out saw the cum dripping from her tongue and that was it kelly i was in heaven in heaven i mean it sounds like you got it all in that first experience you know yeah yeah in heaven and and then i i moved towards her put her on her back and it had sex with her it was that kind of the

reclaiming that we talked about that they talk about right and after like literally a minute or two I came inside her and I have to say like I had built up I think over these months the whole reclaiming of the sex was going to be like euphoric with birds chirping rainbows and stark unicorns yeah but you know it was good it was good Kathy but it wasn't I think because the experience overall was such a wonderful experience that that just added to it was like a cherry but it wasn't the main main thing right yeah you were really turned on while it was going down too it wasn't like that was the end all be like during it sounds like was like fucking amazing for you top of the mountain exactly yeah the reclaiming i think definitely came a day two later or later that night but at that moment it was you know

it was an orgasm now this is where things get interesting so i i get up I get off of her and we're done and he goes, can I use your shower? And I said, yeah, sure. We said, go ahead and shower. He's like, I need a shower. And my wife said, I do too. And he said, you want to shower with me? And at that moment, Kathy, is when a little bit, I felt a certain way.

Yeah, I could see. I could see that. Right. Yeah. That's something a little like, that's my fucking wife. Like, it's over. You know what I mean? Like, I got it.

Yeah. A little out of the jealousy. Yeah. And I didn't say anything. And she looked at me, but my facial expression changed. Yeah. And she saw it. And she said, oh, no, you know, you go ahead.

And I'll shower later. And that was it. And nothing else was said. And so he showered. It was cleaning up. I mean, they were fucking condoms and everything. It was just, the room was a mess. So I started picking things up and putting things in order.

I mean, And the other thing is she was squirting up a storm. The bed was sucked. And oh, here's another pro tip. I ordered a room with two beds because I knew. One of them was going to be soiled. So we wanted to sleep in the other one. So, yeah, we had two beds.

And afterwards, he came out of the shower. She went to go shower. And I was looking through all the pictures and the videos. I told them to come sit with me on the bed and let's take a look at all this. I told them I would send him some. And I wanted him to be comfortable that I wasn't taking pictures. pictures of his face and that I would get rid of ones that he wasn't comfortable with. And so we looked at him all.

And he was like, oh, my God, that's hot. I was like, yeah, that's hot. It was funny. She said she walked out of the bedroom, the shower, and she found us both on the bed hovering over the phones laughing like we were in high school, high school boys. Yeah. And so, yeah. And then we said our goodbyes.

And that was, you know, that was the night. And then we talked. I wanted to make sure to let her know that I was okay with it all. It was a lot more assurance of my love for her, how wonderful it was, how sexy it was, how sexy she was. And it was more, and she was in a drunken state. We started thinking about how things, what things turned out. One thing I forgot to mention at one point, as I mentioned before, my wife's a pleaser. it's hard for her to say no sometimes

and I remember that she tried to take his condom off and it came off kind of halfway it was a half-ass attempt and it was more like I want it without one and I kind of brought that up

and we laughed a little bit about it and I said you know I told her that it didn't happen he was respectful he looked at me and it didn't happen but those were the things we started kind of going into the details of the night you know more sex

more turned on. We talked about the shower. And it was interesting that she, I think she liked the fact that I was a little jealous and I got upset. Maybe it assured her that I loved her and cared for her and was still wanted her.

Yeah. But it was, I don't know, Cathy, you tell me, does that make kind of sense that she? Yeah, absolutely. Because, and like, because you need to have, and I think especially in the beginning,

some sort of line of where you guys exist and that experience exists. You know what I mean? And I feel like that's and that's and that line was there naturally. I mean like the minute it was like done and it was over but like and they were about to go shower together like you're like got a little jealous. I think that that's like bringing it back to you and her. And I think it's kind of good to have that kind of, I don't know, to know where that

line is and to have it be that way because it like kind of separates it. Do you know what I mean? and I think that that's important. I think, listen, after doing it 10 years and some swingers, like, no one needs those fucking lines and stuff. But I think in the beginning, that kind of stuff, it makes sense that you felt it. And it makes sense to me that that made her feel good.

You know what I mean? It was like it brought you guys back to you guys. To each other, right? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I do.

And that's my take on it as well. And so, but it was also. important for me to show her that I wasn't like so upset that it ruined the whole relationship the whole experience. No, because listen, right after that, as long as she didn't go

in there, he came out of the shower, you were going through picks with him, having a great time. I mean, there was no problem. I mean, it was just about like, don't go do that together, but everything else was fucking cool. So I think that that's super clear. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, more

sex that night, we were exhausted. and woke up the next morning, looked at each other, laughed. And again, more reassurance from me, hugs, kisses, so hot. Love you so much. Thank you so much. It was the best experience of my life type stuff. Had breakfast. The thing that they say that you are closer or their love or the love, I don't know what the love changes,

but another dynamic, right? Yeah, yeah. We were all over each other, hands holding, hugging, hugging. next to each other. Again, also, I wanted to make sure she knew that my feelings for her hadn't changed at all. And even I felt her more desirable. Like, man, this guy just, you know, wanted her and did her. And she's mine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the topic, would you do it again, came up. And she's like, yeah, I would. And would you do it with him again? She's like, yeah, I would. And so then I said, okay, well, we'll figure it out. And then she said something that

fucking turned on. She's like, you know, Father's Day is coming. I was like, oh, so would that be my Father's Day gift? And she laughed and I laughed. I said, you know, that would be a great Father's Day's gift. And so, you know, maybe that's when we'll do our next one. Wow. You know, and so we, you know, since then, this happened on Saturday, against Sunday, more sex, more talk and now we have kids right so now we have to schedule and use code just look at each other and i mean my boys are you know they're still young but they definitely can pick up things and uh you know more talk at night more sex at night more squirting at night but now you know a lot quieter because you don't want to wake up the kids uh or scare the kids and so we're at the point now i think where they

it back and forth on the app. We've sent pictures. All of us sent pictures. And so we talked about, well, it would have been great if we didn't have to use a condom. Because honestly, I think that kind of was a bit of a tension or stress for me to have to make sure that the condom was on

and that, you know, she wasn't on, she's not on birth control. And I have a vasectomy, so I'm not, I'm shooting blanks. And so, you know, talking about, I think a conversation last night was, well,

I mean, maybe get on birth control. Right. So she can't do it without. Well, listen, you know, I have to say in the beginning, when you did tell me before we got on, like you wanted to talk a lot about like how you felt now afterwards, I really thought, okay, that maybe, I mean, there was that little bit of jealousy.

I thought maybe you had some sort of weird change of heart after it happened. I thought that was coming. I'm glad that it's not. I'm glad that this is like a fucking all systems go, everything's great even you know a week later you're still horny for it I think reality is you had that moment for the shower but it wasn't what I thought it was going to be where you do feel differently about it I mean you're still into it if anything I mean it was it was great right I like a happy ending it is it's like a happy beginning it definitely is however the questions are there right like okay

so what are the questions do I allow her or not allow her but do we set it up with the same guy, right? Is there an, if you do it with the same guy another time, it does an emotional attachment. Well, it's interesting that you think of that. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's, uh, that's something that, you know, I think you guys definitely should talk about before maybe you do move forward because that means on some level, like you have a fear that that could happen and you really want to make sure it doesn't. So you got to, you know, you got to talk through that shit.

Well, the other thing, too, is, right, you're 100% correct. This is where the communication comes into play, right? Because now we're in the weeds of things. And so the other thing is last night I said, you know, because she mentioned the whole two guys standing up in front of her and she's on her knees blowing them was a fantasy of hers. I said, you know, you had never told me that fantasy. What's another fantasy that you have?

She said, you know, I didn't think it was a fantasy at that point, but it was. It was a really high point of it. I said, well, tell me another one. And she said, you know, I'm going to tell me. you but you'll probably be mad she told me this is last night oh interesting she's like what i would like is i would like is i would like to spend a night in a hotel without you oh okay you know and so that she told me that last night and i said you know knowing you uh i said i don't feel comfortable

with that right now or not yet especially because you're not any birth control and so i said that's something that we can talk about down the road but for right now You know, I'm not comfortable with that. Yeah. Partially because I enjoyed seeing it. I mean, I enjoyed seeing her. Yeah. She felt like she couldn't really open up.

She felt because I was there in the room. I guess that's something, right? Yeah, I've heard that from women before, for sure. Absolutely. That they could enjoy themselves more without the guy there. I've heard all kinds of different stories. I think solo play is very different than what you're doing now. And everybody has different rules and regulations and how they run it.

And there's plenty of people. I have a guy on, I don't know if you listen. to his episodes like because he called in a long time ago but a couple times his name is j too and he's like a professional his wife has like fucking long-term boyfriends and he loves it and she sees them solo and they have nothing but love for each other their old school been doing this for a long time and super successful so it's not like oh just because you let your wife go play solo that's going to lead to piece her copying feelings but i've had couples on where it does but you know you have to listen to to those episodes too because typically those are the couples that had some issues beforehand.

You know, like the couples where things are like super great and stuff, like does a woman, most women, I don't think are wired to, you know, really fall if their emotional needs are being met in one area to fall totally for somebody else. It's more so it happens and it's a window of opportunity when that woman isn't getting her needs met at home. It sounds like you're kind of like a great guy, hard to find kind of guy. You do pay attention and do all those things that a woman wants, you know? So do you have to worry that she's going to cop feelings down the line? I don't think so because who's going to compare to you? You know what I mean? You really make her feel good about herself. You guys have like a great relationship. It sounds like you guys are really super solid. But because she's like willing

to throw the condom out and stuff, I think you're smart to think of the physical reasons why you wouldn't want her to be with him alone, right? But as far as like the copping feelings, I think, you know, she most likely probably wouldn't. But if it bothers you and you might have a jealousy and you want to be there and see it and that's a big part of it for you, I think that maybe you shouldn't go there just yet, you know? Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. That's how I feel. That it may down the road. Yeah. But for now where we're at in our particularly, specific relationship in our life and our journey. That's not something. I mean, going back

to when we were at the sex club and I met a guy and he said, oh, where's your wife? And he said, you know, she's with another, she's with her boyfriend right now. Yeah, wherever right. And he didn't really, he hadn't heard from her, you know, and he was there looking for something. Yeah.

But he lived, yeah, but fine, but I don't know Kathy. I even felt like a little sadness on his part. Like, she hasn't texted me. You know, and I think that kind of left an impression on me where I'm like, ooh, I don't want to be him. Yeah, listen, you have to heed those kind of feelings within yourself because that is some part of you that feels that way. Even the part of you that felt that little thing when they were going to go into to a shower, how do you know that's not going to take place? How do you know you're not going to be

thinking about that if she's solo? You know, so I don't know, like right now, just because you have had those little moments, you know, you have to. don't proceed further with anything else until you don't have those moments. And you'll know when. You sound pretty honest with yourself. You know, you know what the fuck is going on. You're in touch with your feelings. You're honest when you've had feelings that are a little jealous or thoughts about things that aren't okay, you know? And I think, like I said, you have to heed those warnings and you have to, like, listen to them. And you have to not maybe go to that place yet because of those feelings that you had. not because that guy looks at, but because you thought that that's how he felt.

You know what I mean? That's a little bit of projection on you, you know? So I think you have to just take it slow. You're so at the beginning. It doesn't mean that five years from now you won't be doing that. But that's the kind of stuff that's super important to honor and to allow. And anybody that has an open relationship, even the most professional, successful ones,

you know, we'll talk about the fact that sometimes jealousy comes to play. And the most important thing is put it on the fucking table and talk about it. You know, your human beings. So, you know, the fact that you felt jealous when she was about to take a shower, that's fine. You know what I mean? That's how you felt. But you have to, like, pay attention to that and make sure when you're doing stuff like this,

that you err on the side of caution is only going to help. You have the rest of your life to go play solo and do all that kind of stuff. you just started doing this like you know do it together yeah thank you because and this is why you know i wanted a call because a lot of your guests are you know years into this journey right and here i am like step one yeah you know the journey and in the weeds in the current feeling in the current state right of being in this in this journey so uh right so that's the angle i was wondering what it was that you felt. It wasn't that you felt wrong about it, but it's your trepidation of how does it go because she brought up playing solo. And that is a very interesting sort of fork in

the road, right? Like, and it is a very interesting episode for other people to hear, right? Because there's other people like you listening to podcasts to get information. So I feel like your story is really great. And we talked about this before we got on. I love the fact that you just did it just now because how does that guy feel and what are you facing now? You know, I think it's super interesting. That's my suggestion to you about solo play. I feel like, you know, what will be really great for you is to see what people say back to this, you know, the people who are down the road, like how did they feel or what, you know,

I'd love to get Jay's take on it, the guy who's such a professional, you know, he was the bull and now he's the stag, that guy that was on that you listen to, like his sort of advice. But I think it's, what I love to hear from you is, you know, six months from now. We need an update to see what has changed. Where will you be after the six time, tenth time, you know, or fifth time? How do you feel different, you know? But I think it's super interesting that you have these kinds of thoughts now because, you know, it makes sense. You're a human being.

Yeah. You know, definitely. Yeah. I think it's great. And I think that, you know, until you feel comfortable with that, you know, you know, Don't do that. Yeah, so far, you know, my actions have led me down this path. And, you know, so far, you know, I feel like the decisions that we've made and the way I presented it has created such a wonderful experience.

So I just have to kind of, you know, rely on that confidence, right, to know that. I'm leading down the path at a pace that. that I feel comfortable with that if I trust my instincts, as you said, and trust my decisions and communicate this to her that it'll hopefully six months from now more to report.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Just like it's really important that she feels in control and she feels like her feelings are being listened to and she has control over. You need to feel that as well. You know, you both have feelings and stuff.

So I think it's super interesting. I love this episode. I love your whole fucking story. I love that you're calling me up right now. And this is how it ends. You know, it's like I said, super interesting. I've used that word 10 times, but it is interesting. And I think it's a, because it's a different sort of take.

You know, I've been doing my show for eight years. I talk to all different kinds of people that have done this scenario. I love the ones with the bad endings. I love the ones with the good endings. I love the ones. I love all of it because it's like real life, you know? And this is just a. another little snapshot of this kind of lifestyle, but where it ends is different than a lot of

other stories because I'm typically talking to someone who's been doing it for a long time. So I think that this is interesting to some maybe more newbies or even more people, people who have been doing it longer that will be like, oh yeah, I remember when I was there like that guy. You know what I mean? Right. That's how I felt too. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is all fresh. Yeah, I like it. We're definitely newbies. Yeah. This is the newbie episode.

I love it. No, but I love the fresh. take but listen the newbie episode had a lot of fucking components to it was so interesting I love your great storyteller people are going to love your fucking stories and we are definitely going to get your part too so make sure to reach back out to me when you feel like

you know you're maybe at another place right it'll be it I'll love to get that story like I said six months from now you know or whatever you think you've reached another place let me know awesome okay definitely will thank you awesome now listen does your wife know you're calling in or no I haven't told her.

Okay. And so I think that's the other thing. There's an honesty factor and a trust factor. And I feel like I'm potentially breaking that because I didn't tell her. But things have just been moving kind of fast. And I don't know. I don't want to put too much pressure on what we just experienced or I don't want to taint. I'm not to say that it would, but I just don't want to add too much to the experience.

So I felt like I needed to talk to someone because I can't talk to anybody about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I also want to record this moment because it's, it's a wonderful, like, point in my life and our life. Yeah, your whole story, when you hear it back, you're going to be like, I can't believe that's my story. You know, you're going to hear your story. You're like, you're telling it now, but it's going to be a very different experience when you hear it.

The reason why I asked about your wife knowing, it is kind of interesting that she does it and how you just, you know, sort of phrase that. But I only ask because I do have a Patreon and I ask for, like, you know, anonymous picks of people, but I never would do. anonymous picks of someone that doesn't know, right? Like I would never have you sent in picks of your wife if she doesn't know. If she knows and you wind up telling her report airs, sorry, then you could do that. But the other thing I will tell you that is if you don't mind of telling her and you can't do that, I do have a Discord channel where you could go on and talk to other people on my Patreon about stuff.

Like maybe that would be interesting because that guy Jay is on there and, you know, maybe you could get people talking. It's kind of like a forum now. And for you, because you've called in, you get free access to that. So after it airs, you could go in there and be like, hey, that was my episode and people will talk to you about it and stuff. But, you know, that I don't have control over and people do all kinds of naughty things on there. But I won't, like I said, post picks of your wife or anything. And I suggest you don't if she doesn't know.

But you could certainly go on there and discuss the episode with people. And I will give you access to that once your episode airs. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. You know, and again, maybe six months from now, a year from now, we'll be on the date night and I'll play it for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then at that point, maybe she should want to come on.

Yeah, I would love it. Oh, my God. That would be so fucking great. Yeah, so keep me posted about that, but I'm not judging you on that, you know, but like I said, I wouldn't take her picture if she doesn't know. I will change your voice, so nobody will know who the fuck you are. And I will let you know when it goes up. It's like a great episode. Thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story.

Thank you. And thank you, Kathy, for all that you do, right? I mean, sharing all these stories definitely help. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that because at the end of the day, I started my show because I like helping people. And I think my show does help people. And I think that that's like fucking great. So keep me posted, Sal. All right. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now of available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said,

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