Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 661 - Fetish Friday: Jordin is Totally Down with her Husband Wearing Pantyhose and She Loves Wearing them Now Too

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Jordin is totally down with her husband wearing pantyhose and she loves wearing them now too and she called in to talk all about it. When did he confess his fetish to her? How did she feel about it? And, how did him being. Open about his fetish totally change their sex life for the better? Tune in to hear all the details including how she felt about hose prior to meeting her hoser husband, how and why she loves wearing hose now and how her husband buying her top of the line hose made all the difference, how she feels when she goes out and about wearing pantyhose, how she noticed her husband checking out other women wearing hose and how and why it turned her on, how she’s into him being with other women now and how opening up about and talking about sex has led to so much more, how and why she always Fetl self conscious about her legs and how wearing pantyhose has given her confidence, her advice on how to tell your girl about your pantyhose fetish and why it’s so important to be open about it, how her bf buying her great brand changed the game, how not making fetish a requirement in sec life is important and why that’s important, don’t push it on to partner, how and why a woman might be worried that you like to wear hose, how and why they started posting pics of the both of the online and how and why most hosers come to her for advice, the most common questions she gets from hosers including how to get their partner into wearing pantyhose, how and why compliments go a long way, how long after wearing pantyhose did she become so confident with her body and how and why putting herself on social media helped the process, who knows that her husband wears pantyhose and how did they react when they found out, how ad why she recently started an Onlyfans and what she does on there, how and why she gets turned on turning her husband and other guys on, why they started their podcast Love and Nylon and a whole lot more. You can find all her stuff here: bit.ly/3DcL9v3  To hear me interviewed on their podcast Love and Nylon, click here: apple.co/3rZZMiU To see pics of JORDIN and her husband plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is in the description as well as my website, Shookly anonymous podcast.com, go there and click on, be on the show and send me your email. You could do that. All of that information, like I said, will be in the description. Now, today I have on Jordan. Now, Jordan is the female in the Bobby and Jordan, who are both into Panios, duo, who now have their own podcast as well as their own Instagram and Only fans. But they were on my show before. they were a couple who were into wearing pantyhose. Bobby is a guy who has the panty hose fetish. She also likes to wear hose. Not all hosers wear hose, but he does. And he was straight up honest with his girl Jordan. They recently got married. She was super accepting of his fetish right from the get-go.

If you want to hear their whole backstory, I had them both on a while ago last year. That episode is 568. But on this episode, I just talked to Jordan. I really wanted to get. get the female perspective. I wanted to talk to a female who is super open and accepting and turned on by wearing panty hose for her guy. That's Jordan and she's here to talk all about it. She talks about how her husband brought it up, how she felt about it, you know, how and why she is now totally into wearing hose and how it doesn't really change the game for her.

She talks about how he got her into hose. She was a girl that was never into them. And now she's totally into them and wears them. And they wear them with each other, you know, when they're intimate. She's totally down with it. She talks all about it. She also talks about her favorite brands and how him turning her on to like the really great brands was a real game changer.

She does give a lot of great tips for hosers out there that either want to bring up, you know, the fact that you like hose to your girl or how to get. get your girl into panty hose. I mean, this is what we talk about on this episode. Jordan's not anonymous. I'm not changing her name. You can see picks of her on Instagram. She has an only fan.

And they also started a podcast where they talked to people about all kinds of things. Their podcast is called Love and Nylon. I think it's a great idea. You know, there's hosers love to hear about hose. That's what they're doing over there. She also has an only fan. She talks about specifically what you. she does in her only fan. She gets turned on by turning her guy on as well as she gets very turned on by turning other guys on.

And just really getting into this fetish with her husband has opened them up and made them into all kinds of things. And she talks about those things as well. But mostly we do talk about pantyhoes this episode. You're going to fucking love it. So I'm going to be right back on with Jordan. Hi, Jordan. Hi, Jordan. Welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, Kathy, I'm great. I'm so happy to be back with you. Jordan, listen, you called in before, and you're super interesting. The first time you called in, you called in with your husband Bobby. Okay, it was on a fetish Friday. It is episode 568. The title is Bobby and his wife, Jordan, on his pantyho's fetish. But it really should have been like Bobby and his wife, Jordan, wear pantyhose and they're out and proud. I mean, you, you, guys like we're not going to get into your whole backstory because if people want to hear your whole backstory right they could go and listen to 560 and it's super interesting how you guys met how he talked about his fetish with you but what's great about you and what I wanted you to come back on and talk about is that you're like a woman who was never really into hose before right your guy

dumps this thing on you and you not only took to it and where for him and stuff you guys started like your own Instagram page and at first you were anonymous. He wears panty hose. You wear a panty hose. You guys do it together. And you eventually came out. And now you're like out and proud as somebody, you know, who not only is into her guy wearing hose, you wear them too. And now you have an only fan. And you and your husband recently started a podcast. It's the same name as like your Instagram and everything. Right. It's love and nylon. I mean, that's who you guys are on Instagram. And now you have Love and Nylon podcast, right? Right.

Yeah. So for the first year after he told me, like, we were not really doing much with it. And then all of a sudden, we just kind of took off with it with Love and Nylon. And then from there, it's just kind of blown up. We've done a lot with it now. And it's just a huge part of our life now. But what about you? Like, what I want you to come on and talk about is as a female, right?

Were you into pantyhoes before he was like, hey, listen, I want you to wear them all the time because I'm like, you know, into them? No, I was not. So I almost never really wore them before. I would wear them occasionally with an outfit if I thought it was, you know, just cute to wear with a dress or something. I were in the Midwest, so it's cold. So in the winter, I would often put like my dresses with tights. But it was never something that I was really into. I actually didn't love them, mostly because all you can really find in stores is like the control top and I hate that. So I just didn't really know any of the good brands and it was when he started introducing me to the good brands and the more higher end brands that I lashed on to it and actually started to enjoy them. But previously, no, I was not

into it at all. Now, and now I don't know where to start because you just said so many interesting things like I know people would want to hear like your favorite brands and your favorite colors and I really want to know like how you feel going out and about in them now. But, But what I want to know is that, like, if you, like, how do you feel about them now? We know going in, you were not into them at all. Are you at the point now where you just wear for your guy? Or are you actually, like, converted and, like, love wearing them? I would say I'm in between right now.

I am not, like, a full-on panty-hose lover at this point. Like, some people are. I do not wear every day. I do still wear them. I would say primarily because I know my husband likes them and I am someone that is turned on by my partner being turned on. And on top of that, I have really come to enjoy the way my body looks in them. So I do wear them more for that reason now too. I, like my legs have always been my most hated part of my body.

I've never really liked my legs. and I just have a newfound appreciation for my legs now with panty hose. Because it makes them look like almost perfect, right? I mean, that's really why I think a lot of hosers like them. Like, that's what it's kind of about. It's taking something that they naturally like and making it perfect. Right. Yeah.

So I was just actually telling my husband this yesterday that I feel kind of cheated because I've always, like, I've always hated my legs, but I've always looked at like performers. like singers in their concerts and, you know, on shows. And I've always loved the way their legs look. And I have just recently discovered that they are all wearing like the Wolford neon 40s. And I'm like, I could have had legs that look like this, you know, this whole time. And I just didn't realize it.

So, yeah, I feel kind of cheated for that. But I now love it. And if I'm wearing a dress without them now, I feel kind of naked. Like, I want to wear panty hose with every dress now. So it's been, it's been a game changer for sure. But like I said, I still don't wear every single day. It's not, you know, I'm not like fully to that lifestyle part of it like some people are. Right.

It's not like you would have. Because some people like, I know my hosers are always like, oh, to get a girl that has the panty hose fetish. I'm like, I don't even know that women have fetishes. You know, so I don't know. But I think it's interesting that girl. because I include myself in your category. I was someone who really hated pantyhose.

I only started wearing them because of my hosers. You know, I started a Patreon. I had a whole special tier for them. And I needed content. And I'm down to try anything. You know, I think it's fun to do experiments and try things out. You know, when these guys were like sending me panty hose and I was wearing them. And I couldn't believe how the different brands felt, how they made,

my legs look. Like each one was so different. And I think growing up, I was like you. I didn't really realize that there were so many different brands and that. It really made a difference. And I mean, listen, I found, because I tried a lot of them, I found some very low end brands that were really killer and then loved like the higher end brands. Recently, the guy from Shapings.com, he was on my show and he sent me the CDRs, the Etern O'Nines. Oh my God. That is like, performance. perfection for me. Did you ever use those? I have. I am one of the few people I think though that is not in love with the CDRs, at least not what I've tried so far. So I just have not gotten the right fit with them yet. Did you ever try the Etern-09's? I think I have. I'll have to check. I'm pretty sure I do have those.

I just haven't found the right fit. I have a curvier body and it's, you know, it's kind of tricky. also they get like the wrinkle around the ankle that people love that I'm indifferent to why do you think guys love that because then they know you're wearing hose right right I know right I complain about it and my husband's like people love that and I'm like I don't isn't it girls just don't have any clue you know I think most women don't have any clue that there are so many guys out there that really like panty hose and what they're doing to them when they're walking around and sporting them now my question would be like when you went out and about and started wearing panty hose. Do you notice that more guys check you out? So I get this question

all the time and I never really noticed. I have only in the past few months started to pay attention and I have noticed a couple now, but I never paid attention before. Yeah, that makes sense. But now when you go, because when you go out now and you're looking to see if they're looking, you do notice, right? I do. Yes. It's become something that I've started to, be like really tuned into. I just yeah, I don't know. I just never, never pay attention. I actually wear them more for like for my husband, but also live for the compliments I get from other women versus like men. Yeah. For the women will come up and say something. Yes. Yeah. And I get a lot of compliments, especially if I'm wearing like a colorful pair. Like I have this like emerald green pair I'll wear

with this floral dress I have and I get compliments constantly on that from other women. And And it's like almost converting them to a panty hose lever. Like it's really fun for me. So. Well, listen, you could take, you could buy like five pairs of different color hose. And it's like you just added so much to your wardrobe because it's like it's like a game changer. Right.

It could like change up the same outfit by wearing a different color. You could really play around with it like if in the fashion sense. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's my favorite thing to do. Like I love finding like patterned dresses that have a lot of different colors in them. So then I can pull from all the different colors within it, basically create a different outfit with the panty hose I'm wearing.

I will say, okay, just talking about the guys noticing women walking on the street. Now, I went out in panty hose one time and I was doing it, you know, for my hosers as an experiment. So I 100% was paying attention. And 100% I noticed the difference. And I was like, oh, this is so easy. Do you know what I mean? But what I also have noticed before I wound up going out and doing it myself, I live in the city, right, in Manhattan.

So I'm walking around. I see tons of people. When I see a girl walking around in pantos and I see a ton of them, right? Because a lot of women are going to work and they're dressed up nice. And I think more of the young girls are going back to it. You know, I think it's becoming more of a thing now than it was when I was growing up, after it went out of style for me. But I watch to see guys when they walk by and I see them looking at their legs.

And I never noticed that before. You know, I never really knew that there were these guys out there that were like obsessed with girls' legs. Like you always think it's tits and ass. You know what I mean? You never think of his legs. Yeah. No, I never realized that either.

Like, I've always noticed when I've gotten looks towards my, towards my butt. I get that a lot because I am curbier. Yeah. So I've always noticed. Yeah. Yeah. I've always noticed that. It was really interesting to me after I found out that my husband has this fetish.

I started any time I would see a girl wearing, I would look at his reality. reaction. So I, it became really fun for me to look and see if he was paying attention. And he usually, he usually was. And it kind of turned me on a little bit. Like to see him looking at somebody else, like just seeing his reaction to it. And that's something like before I really started wearing regularly, that was, that became like a fun thing for me. You're like a panty hose cook queen a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. It was interesting. Like we went to Ireland and in Europe, everybody wears panty hose.

Totally. So there were a lot there and I was just paying attention to his reaction while walking through Dublin and like every time I would see a girl, I was looking to him. And he doesn't even know this. I've never even told him this. But it was, it's really fun for me. That's interesting, right? Because you would think probably even before you experienced it, you might have like guessed

that that would make you jealous. But instead it was kind of like hot, you know, right? Yeah. Yeah, which was really interesting to me. I have always been someone that I've never been a jealous person because I've never really been in a situation to be jealous, I guess. But I have started to open up to these experiences with him and thinking about, like, thinking about him with other girls or seeing him look at other girls or be turned on by other girls has started to turn me on. And that's such a new thing for me. Like I've just never, never had that.

And that's really come from having these accounts, too, I think, and knowing about this fetish with him. So that's just been a fun little extra thing. It really shows how just opening up and communicating with each other and leaving room for whatever's going to happen, happen. It really shows that that kind of a thing could lead people into realizing stuff about themselves that they never realized, right? I mean, like, here you are someone who never thought that you would be into that, but because he talked to you about liking pantyhose and then you started noticing and then you're like, oh, this fucking turns me on.

I mean, how would you have ever even experienced that without him being initially open and putting that on the table? You know, it just leads to all kinds of things, which I think is great. Oh, yeah. I will honestly say, like, even though the panty hose isn't a true fetish for me yet at this point. And I mean, it probably won't ever be an actual fetish for me. It is more just it turns him on. So it turns me on. But this entire experience has been a game changer for me with my sexuality and what I've found that I like.

And just the fact that I put myself out there at all online, Instagram only fans, all of this, like this is not something I ever thought I would do. And it's not something I knew or thought I was capable of doing. So it's been huge. And listen, you were the girl that hated your legs. The part of you that you were the most self-conscious of is the part of you that you're putting out there. That's the part of you that you're saying, hey, come pay for this shit. You know what I mean? Like, so that's pretty major.

I know. Yeah. That's been so crazy to me to get these compliments on my legs and just knowing that that's the part of me that I'm most self-conscious of. And that's been like the biggest. confidence booster for me. And I feel like it's been, like, that is part of what's really started this awakening for me with my confidence and my, in loving my body and my sexuality and all of it. It's, it's been really incredible, honestly.

Yeah, it's like a domino effect because you feel better about yourself and more confident than you could then start thinking about other things that turn you on. I mean, maybe you guys will wind up with another woman one day. You don't know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. totally on the table. I, yeah, honestly, I am surprised at myself. I have always been, and I said this on my other podcast. Like, I have always kind of been like this closeted,

horny person. Like, I have always been kind of looked at as a crude. I've always been a little bit reserved, but I do have a very sexual side. I've always had a very high sex drive. I've always been very intrigued by a lot of stuff. I just haven't had the experiences or been able to really get into that with myself and have the confidence for it. And this past like year, year and a half has just been life changing. Yeah. And that just goes to show that that confidence, uh, really goes a long way. You don't have to be that secret horny girl anymore. Right. Yeah. That is still kind of my thing though. Like I, one part that's been kind of hard for me with this is I've always really thrived on the fact that I, that nobody expects it from me. Yeah.

Like I'm like the good girl and then I have this other side. And now that it's out there a little bit more, I'm like trying to find ways to reel it in a little bit and create a little bit of a sense of mystery because that was the fun part for me was that nobody knows. But like my friends and family still don't know. So like there's still, you know, there's still that there. So many guys are listening to this, I think, because they're just like, oh, they wish they were your husband, right? And they had a girl who was cool with them wearing. I mean, because not only does he want you to wear and you'll wear, you're down with him wearing intimately, right? He puts on pantos, you put on pantos, you guys fuck.

I mean, like he's wearing them in pictures with you. I mean, how did he tell you? And what advice would you give to guys that maybe want to take that step and out themselves to their girl? So for us, it really started with we were just having a lot of sex-based conversations in general, leaving up to him telling me. So then we just got on the topic of kinks and fetishes. And I just asked him if he had a kink. And he was like, yeah, I kind of got one.

And immediately I'm just like, oh, shit. Hopefully I'm okay with this one, like whatever he got. And then he told me it was panty hose. And I was like, okay. Like, I didn't think anything of that at all. like that's an easy one so then it was a couple weeks later we were playing a game and he told me that he wears them too because i think there was a question in the game like what's something weird that you own or something like that and he was like oh well so i told you have a panty who's

finished well i also have some and i wear them and you just like okay so you know we get this question all the time from people like how do i get my partner to wear you know whatever how do i tell them. And it's like you really just have to be having these conversations around sex in general. I recommend listening to podcasts together, you know, doing challenges together. We love that. Playing sex games together. Like there's so many ways just to get conversations going. And without those things, I don't know how long it would have taken him to tell me. And, you know, then once he told me, we really didn't do much with it. Like, he didn't push it. And that's another thing I would recommend. Like, just don't push it.

because then, you know, she's going to be turned off by that. So I just would wear for date nights and stuff. He wore for me one time when we were going to have sex. And I didn't even know he was going to wear. He didn't tell me he was going to wear. He just did. And I didn't even realize it until afterwards because we were so in the moment. Wrapped up.

Yeah. Yeah. And it didn't bother me. It didn't affect me. And, I mean, it was really almost a year before we, you really started doing anything with it together. And he started buying me pairs that he was buying himself and just opening me up to this new world of different brands and higher end brands that I didn't know existed.

And it was a game changer for me. I recommend to everyone, if she doesn't like to wear, get her a pair of Wolford sat in touch 20s. And she's probably going to fall in love. Oh, okay. How come why are they so great to you? you. Oh, they're just my favorite. The fit is just amazing. The way they feel is amazing. I'm really big on like the waistband and how that feels around my waist and the material of the waistband. And there's just perfect. Like I am just so big on the way it fits. I don't want to feel squeezed in.

Like I want to feel like I've got a little bit of control. Like it, you know, it smooths out a little bit if I'm wearing a dress or something, but not tight. And the Wolford sat in touch 20 is just, the perfect pair for me. And it's an investment, but it's worth it. Like, if you want her to love them, that is the one to go with for sure. Right. So he definitely started buying them for you, which helped, right? Change your mind. Because I think a lot of women hate pantyhose because of the same reason we both said we did. You know, we didn't know about all the different brands. We didn't know the best ones. But hosers do. Okay. So buy your girl, the good ones, right? I mean, these guys know, because they, they've tried them out. Your guy knew which ones to buy you, right?

because he was, this was his fetish. He had already done all the research for you. Oh, for sure. Yeah. He knows way more about them than I do. Like, I almost feel, like, I almost have like imposter syndrome when I'm on my account. Because I'm like, people are asking me questions and I'm like, I don't know. I just know it fits well.

I like the way it looks. Like half the time people are like, what are you wearing? And I don't even know. I just picked it out of my drawer and it looks good. Like, because half the pair of panting hose don't even have a tag on them. Like, you don't even know what you're wearing. so and I'm so unorganized he's really just the kind of

the master behind it like he I text him all the time like a picture of what I'm wearing and I'm like what am I wearing? Someone asked and he'll tell me so that's been really nice yeah and that's how the guys are the hosers know so you're the one they're the guy they're the one that needs to take control you know you can't just tell your girl you like the fetish

and then have her go buy her own hose because she's clueless nobody does as much research on panty hose than hosers do, okay? Like, it's just a fact. These guys know more than you will ever know, and I think that in order to change your girl's mind, you have to give her the ones that

are good, because it is a game changer. There is a huge difference between the pantyhoes that we all hate and the ones that, like, for me, the CDRs which, like, I don't even feel them on, yet I feel like a little bit of, like, tightness, which I like, I like to feel like I'm pulled in, right, and held up,

but I feel like I'm not wearing anything. I don't want to feel one thing on my stomach, you know, and that's how it feels. But I would have never known that those were like top of the mountain if they weren't sent to me and told to me by every fucking hoser. Like, you got to try these, you know? How would I have known? Right. Yeah. I really think that if men would just buy their partner a really good pair, like it would just change everything for them. But I also will say, you know, just don't make it everything in your relationship. I mean, if she feels like it's a requirement, she's fine going to be turned off by it. I mean, unless she's super in, unless she is just super into turning you on, like, I'm like that.

Like, like I said, I'm turned on by him being turned on. And there are a lot of women like that. But there are also some women that they just maybe aren't as open yet. Like they just haven't really had much of a sexual awakening or they're just kind of reserved or feel shame around sex. You just have to have a lot of conversations around it and make her comfortable and make her know that you love her and you love having sex with her, whether she's wearing pantyhose or not. Yeah, and there's two biggest sort of pushbacks I've heard from guys who have told their girls who are not into it at all and have never crossed over like you. And one is that, and I think it's because they push too much and you just said like, don't make it your everything. The girl starts to feel like,

oh, you don't like me for me. You just like panty hose. You need to let her know it's. It's like you in the panty hose. It's not just the panticle. Some women think like, oh, you're not turned on by me unless I wear these and then they start to see some sort of disconnect. And I think you really have to communicate to a woman that it's not that. Did you ever feel that way or not at all? No, I can honestly say I've never felt that way. He has done really well from the beginning of making it known that it's not everything. Like I said, we didn't really do that much with it for the first almost a year. He just kind of would slowly, wear or introduce it or mention it or I would wear for date nights like all of this like it was a very

slow thing and then even when we started our account it wasn't it still wasn't ever something that I felt like he really needed yeah I can I can understand like if our sex life would have been struggling prior to all of this or if if it was struggling and like before I was really wearing I probably would have worried that he wasn't enjoying being with me unless I was wearing. But that's not the case. We had a great sex life even before them. So that was just huge for me. And now I feel like it really is not a requirement for him. Like I know it's not. And a lot of it probably has to do now with the fact that he gets it. It's he's not deprived of it at all. Like he doesn't have to watch porn for it. He doesn't have to seek out other, you know, ways.

He doesn't even wear hardly at all, to be honest. Because he can. That's what happens when you allow, you know. I think sometimes in the beginning what happens is, especially if a guy is held back for a long time, finally, and he puts it out there. He finally tells his girl the biggest mistake probably that a lot of hosers make is like, his girls, like, okay. And then he just goes full throttle 100% because he's been so deprived of like actually

putting it out there that now he can't, he goes way overboard. instead of doing like what your guy did, which was, you know, keep fucking under control and go slowly and don't get too into it, you know, because that's the move that pays off, you know. And I think a lot of guys go from zero to 100 because it's like, oh my God, I told her now I could do it and they're like full out. And then I think it scares a girl. I think that's what happens. And it becomes too much. The other thing that I do find that a lot of women get freaked out about it, I think like there's a lot of questions that come up like. you with the guys who wear hose you know like what does that mean are you gay do you want to wear other

things because it's kind of it's like it's you know in our minds it's framed as a feminine piece of clothing right not like a panty hose for men even though there are a panty hose for men you know it's something that women wear so i think a lot of women sometimes are confused like why do you want to wear a panty hose and what does that mean i mean did you ever have any of those feelings so i never i honestly never did i know though he had that in his last relationships and he had told me that he had gotten those questions from BPS partners. And if anything, that just made me really sad for him. I was just like, I just didn't understand it. I didn't understand why that was their reaction. But I never really

felt that way. But I mean, like I said, we just went about it really slow. And I think that's why. and I don't know how he went about it with his previous partners necessarily. So, you know, he really learned from experience with those ones. So he did it differently with me. Well, were you younger than those other ones? I am a little bit younger. Yes. I think there's different things in every generation, I think.

The older hosers have it worse because they are dealing with a different kind of mentality and world that they grew up in. and there's a lot less open-minded people in that generation. You know, the younger you go, the more open people are. I mean, I post pictures of guys wearing panty-hose in public all the time on my Patreon. And I see them just out and about in magazines and fashion magazines. I mean, it's becoming more acceptable. I sponsored and had on the woman who started La Belle.

She was from France, right? And she's like, everyone there wears them. here she's like nobody wears pantyos what the fuck she started her own company and then she realized she had a lot of guys buying for her and her ads are like amazing it's every shape and size that's another thing we're going to talk about right as well as like guys and trans women and everybody wearing panty hose and you and you see that out and about at least i do because i'm in the in new york city but also like i said in fashion magazines and in the celebrity world those people are always a little bit more ballier and i think live more out of the box that i'm seeing it more and more

now for sure. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think so with the younger generations, things are becoming more progressive, but it also does really depend on the location you are in. Like you said, you're in, you're in a bigger city. We are in the Midwest, smaller town, like kind of in the Bible Belt. Like we are not in the greatest area. So yeah, we are becoming our, we are in a little bit of like a bigger city in our state, but there's still a lot of progress to be made here. But if you are in a bigger city, then that's great. I mean, we have quite a few people that follow us, and we've interviewed a few people from, like, the Seattle area.

And that is like the place to be we've found for a lot of, a lot of the people in this community. Like, it's just very open. We just don't really have that here. And that was a big thing with his last partners, too, is it's just not an accepted thing around here. So yeah, it's it's rough. But we did find that our area is also kind of a big area, I guess, for like back in the day when there were a lot of like the Panty's websites and like porn sites and stuff. Our area is actually like where a lot of those were from.

That's always goes to show. Let me tell you. I think I was Nashville. I went once to Nashville. And there's just like every other block. There's a church and then a porn shop, a church and They always go together. And someone's like, yeah, that always goes together. Wherever you find the really religious people, you find a lot of porn. Mm-hmm. It's just a thing, right? So it's probably a lot of my hosers are from your area.

How early on in your relationship did he tell you? Oh, man. We were, maybe don't, I think we're only like about three weeks in. So it was very early on. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we weren't even official, like an official relationship. relationship at that point. We were just kind of hanging out and having fun. So yeah, it was pretty early. And like I said, we were just having a lot of conversations around sex at the time, just trying to

figure out what we liked. Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, the, and I think we all learn this the hard way, right? We have a regular relationship where we do everything like the right way. And and then it goes south. And then the next one, you're like, fuck it. I'm just being myself. I'm going to give it a fuck. You know, and then you put it all out. And then you get exactly what you want. You're like, wow, I should have done this before. I don't know. Like, did he wait longer to tell his other relationships?

So him and I both have the similarity that we met our first. So I met my first husband. He met his first wife in high school. Right. So, so, yeah. I mean, he, I know he told his first, you know, wife a little bit, like a couple years in, but they were teenagers. his last girlfriend he had a girlfriend between her and I and I I don't know when he told her

but they never really did anything with it like she just was not really into it at all right but I do think just putting it out there right in the beginning like you weed out the people that aren't going to be right and you just get right to it you know like there you were even though he lives in this Bible Belt conservative community he found the perfect girl it is available and out there, but it's kind of like, I think it really is your fetish and it's something you really are into when you don't have a partner.

It should be like a deal breaker if they're not and you should put it out there. I've heard of guys that do that and they find exactly what they fucking want because they're clear about it. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's said from the beginning like he knew that this was a point of contention in his previous relationships and he didn't want it to be that way

in this one. So he was just going to put it out there and if it wasn't okay, we would have moved on. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, if I wouldn't have been into it, we probably wouldn't be married and be where we are right now. And I, you know, we talked about it on our podcast even. You know, somebody was saying, like, you need to determine if it's a deal breaker for you or not. Like, how important is this for you? And I'm like, you know, I think no matter what, it is a deal breaker if your partner cannot accept you for who you are.

Like, I just don't see how you can be together. Yeah. I just don't see how you can have a successful relationship. and not be compatible sexually, not accept your partner for every part of them. I just, I just don't get that. And the thing is not everyone will like everything. Not everything is for everyone. I just think people really need to be honest with themselves and determine like, okay, then that's not my person.

It's okay if they don't like it. But this is not my person then. And that's why I think it's so important to bring it up so early. So then you're not in so deep. Like, you know, you fall in love with this person and everything's great. And then there's just one aspect that you just cannot get on board with. And when it's something like, I don't know, I think sexual compatibility is so important. I really do not think you can have a good relationship and not be sexually compatible.

And, you know, this is something, if he would have waited six months, six months in, I was so in love with him. Like, if he would have waited six months in and told me and then if I wasn't open to it, and I wasn't okay with it, that would have been really bad. Like, I just, I don't know, I think it's really important just to tell, just talk about those things so early. And I think that's becoming more common now, especially with, you know, dating apps and all of this. People are talking about sex right away.

Yeah. I think that's great. It makes a big difference. And podcasts are a big way to bring up conversations. I get a lot of people emailing me like me and my wife, listen to your show. and we love it and she likes it because it's not just a sex for sex turn on reason. You know, she could relate to it too. And it's very helpful for a couple to explore because all you need to do, like you said in the

beginning, is just open up those conversations. It could lead to so much, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I would honestly say about half of my following on my Instagram, on only fans everywhere, they are using me basically as a relationship therapist. Like, they are just asking me questions. Let's hear the questions, please.

It's usually just how do I introduce it? How do I introduce this to my partner? How do I tell them about it? How do I get my partner to wear? My partner doesn't want to wear. Like, what do I do? Like, it's really just stuff like that. I get questions from people being like my, you know,

partner is kind of curvy like you. What should I buy her? Like what kind of like her body's similar to yours? What do you like? Because she doesn't like the way Panios fit her. Like I love those questions. I guess stuff like that all the time. What are the answers to those? Like you just brought up a couple good questions that we didn't talk about yet. Like why don't you bring up those questions again and then tell me what those answers are? Yeah. So I mean back to how do I get her to where how do I tell her again like I said earlier podcasts play games together talk about it like sex in general right it doesn't have to be you don't have to lead with i'm into pantyhose lead with just like open fantasy talk whatever and then eventually you could throw that in there right yeah

best game my husband and I ever played when we started dating was never have I ever oh i like that a super game of never have I ever it's like back to high school game like it's so much fun though like you know, just do something like that. Or like the whole podcast thing, just find a podcast episode that is something you're into and to be like, hey, I really love this and I think you should listen to this together. And it's just a good way to bring it up without you having to actually say the words,

you know, like, and it gives you something to talk about. So I think that's great. And then, you know, when I get the questions about, you know,

my wife or my partner is Kirby like you, what should I buy her? it's always, I always recommend Wolford sat in touch 20s or Sony Panda. Anything by Sony Panda is usually great too as far as sizing. So those are the big things or, oh, so another one I get a lot is back to like the body positivity or, you know, their partner being curvy and not really feeling comfortable. I always tell people like you have to tell her how hot she is. Right.

All the time. Mm-hmm. Like you, if she feels uncomfortable in it, like, you just have to really build her up and just be like, you are so fucking hot in that. I love it. It's turning me on so much. Like, you have to do that. And I mean, I definitely have like a praise kink. So that works for me. And I assume it works for everyone else to some extent. Yeah. Listen, I'm, my love language is compliments too. Like compliments turn me on. I mean, it's just a fact. I, yeah, I always think every girl's like that. But maybe not. I don't know. Maybe it's just our love language. Everyone loves a compliment. Maybe not to the degree that I do. But like it to some extent, it's going to make them feel good. And it's going to make them like to wear them. And how long did it take before you as the girl who's just like these guys' partner out there that doesn't feel so great about her body or her curvy legs like you didn't at one time?

Like how long did it take for you to go from that to feeling great about it? And did your husband's compliments play a big? part in that? It did. Yeah. So I will say just in general in the past five years, like since having kids, my confidence has grown. I think it's come with age, having kids, like having new appreciation for my body. So I was already on that path of becoming more confident with my curvier body. Yeah. And then, you know, I've been really lucky that I've had, I've primarily only had two long-term relationships in my in my adult life so when you're in those long-term relationships like that i feel like the confidence just kind of comes with that because you have this person that just loves the way you look

and you know wants to be with you so that's helped me yeah right so but then you know my husband has played a huge part in it because he just he it has always been so good at just making me feel very desirable right he he he just wants to be with me all the time he makes it known that he wants me but then you know instagram like within a week of starting our instagram i was like really feeling it like getting all the compliments yeah yeah and i've always been someone that said i don't like attention but i think i was lying to myself i don't know i it's been huge for me right once you put it out there and got it you were like wow this is fucking good maybe everyone's like secretly into it they just don't put themselves out because they're afraid they're not going

get it, you know what once you, if you try it, you probably don't like it. Right. I was so scared about the stuff I might get, especially being curvier. And then a lot of these accounts are like these model-esque women. Yeah. And I was like, I don't look like that. I'm not tall. Like I'm not, like I have curves, you know, all this. So I was really worried. And to be honest, I have not had a single negative comment about myself and my body that I've seen. Right. Like I, it's been like, like really any negative interaction I've had through this process has only been with other women. Interesting. It hasn't been men at all.

In what sense, like name an example of how you've had any kind of negative interaction with a woman? So it's more so just been not feeling supported by some other creators, I guess. Yeah, more stuff like that. I'm not going to go too, you know, far into that, but just kind of a mean girl thing. occasionally. Well, let me tell you what I noticed with content creators, because I've had plenty on. And there is a certain portion. I don't have these people on my show. I don't want them on my show that really are just creating and doing what they do for money. They could give a fuck about their fans or the guys that they're taking. And I've had some of my hosers share with me some experiences.

And I'm horrified, by the way, some of these people have interacted with them. And that's, That I don't like. I like the real deal people that are really out there and really appreciate their fans and are really doing it for the right reason. I know you and your husband are those kind of people, but I think the ones that are full of nonsense are the ones that aren't there for the right reason, just there for the money. And they play dirty. And it's like I said, they have no respect for the guys. And I think that that's terrible because what are you without your fans? You know, without your, like for me, my listeners, I love every fucking saying.

one of them every person I'm sure you feel the same way with your podcast the fact that you create something and anybody that wants to listen to it's like you I feel so appreciative as you should because without them you're nothing oh yeah for sure I I don't get it at all there's so many recommendations out there like for only fans girls or you know things like that like don't message back on Instagram don't message back anywhere but your only fans and it's like I just, first of all, I suck at messaging. So if I don't respond to your message, it's literally just because I forgot. I'm just bad.

Yeah. Yeah. I have like, yeah, super ADHD. But I try so hard to interact with people. And I'm just like, I just, I can't just ignore them. I mean, there are some who they're just complete horn dogs. And that's like all it is for them. But yeah.

But a lot of this community, they really are a community. Like they really just want friends. They really just want to be accepted. A lot of my followers aren't even talking to me sexually other than like compliments. Right. You know, they're not all sexual about it. And I love that. And that's something I did not expect going into this at all.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I have a whole bunch of them over on my Patreon. I told you I set up a whole specific account. And I think what they appreciate the most is that I'm a woman who is open and talking to them about something that I feel like their biggest fear is that women would be against it. And I think that that's what every guy wants. So if they could live vicariously through you until they get their partner into it, what a safe place to live and to be. And they don't like, yeah, they get fucking hard and they get horny. and they, but really what they love more than anything,

and I'm sure you get this, is like to talk about brands and the den and the shine. They could get so enthralled with those details that it's interesting. Oh, yeah. It's such an art form, I've noticed. Like, that's what I've equated it to is a lot of these people in the community are really just looking at it as art in a way. Yeah, that's interesting.

They love it. Yeah. it's it's been it's been very interesting I'm really happy that I actually you know started this with my husband I was a little bit resistant to it at first I mean I wasn't resistant to wearing with him and you know all of that I was just resistant to like Instagram and never thought I would do only fans like that's been huge for me so let me just ask you a couple questions for my Patreon members before we get in and talk about what you guys do on your podcast and what you show on your only fans because I'm sure a lot of my hosers are going to want to go check you out a lot of guys ask do

Do any of your girlfriends know that your guy wears panty hose and you're okay with it? Or do you keep that secret? So I have only recently started talking about it more with like friends. I mostly didn't for a long time out of respect for my husband. However, he has kind of built up the confidence to start telling people. He's told more friends. He's told his sisters now, which is fun. So, yeah.

So that's kind of opened me up to be able to talk to people. So like my sister knows. And I have a friend who knows who's a mutual friend. of me and my husband. So I do have a couple people that, you know, I talk to about it now. But, no, for a long time, I didn't. How did those conversations go? Like, you sit your sister down. You're like, listen, I got a cop to something. Like, my God, where his panty husband? Was she like, what the fuck? Like, how did she react? No. So actually, my husband showed her husband our Instagram page.

Wait, your husband, so like his brother-in-law, showed his brother-in-law, no, because they're really close. Yeah, yeah. So they're friends. So he showed him. And then I was drinking, this is actually on our wedding night, I was drinking, and I, um, slipped to my sister that I had an only fan. And we didn't talk about it because, you know, we were busy.

And then months later, we ran my parents. and she's just like, she's just like, so we need to talk about these accounts because I know and we haven't talked about it. Oh my God. How long did she know that you didn't know that she know? That's hilarious. So I remembered that I told her I had the only fans. Yeah.

But it took her, it took her husband actually about four months to tell her about our Instagram and everything. So, so yeah, she knew and then we talked about it. And she, I mean, she had the obvious question. And she's like, you don't think it's weird at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, no, I really don't. And I don't know people believe me that I really don't think it's weird, but I really don't.

Listen, look at what I do for living in my show. And like, I really am very not judgmental of anything. Like, I don't care what anyone is into. It's actually like, it's not a big deal to me at all. And I think my friends think the same thing. Like, how could you just not? Like, I'm just like super open like that. So I believe you that you feel that way.

but I get that I think most people do have a lot of hangups and they are super judgmental, unfortunately. I mean, this is why we have podcasts and you have only friends. You're trying to open people's minds and make things more acceptable. So people don't have to be like, why do you think this is weird? Because what does it fucking matter? You and him are into and that's what he's into. Who's hurting anyone? Nobody.

And what's great is that you're in a relationship and you're being able to be yourself. There's so many more people out there because there is so much shame around so many different kinks and fetishes. and even things that aren't kinks and fetishes, that people have to keep it underwrap. So you don't even know your partner for really who they are. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And I think a huge hang up is that,

like for this one specifically, people then expect, like he might be into cross-dressing or being feminine or, you know, these things. And there are people that are and that's okay. But he's not. And people have a hard time wrapping their head around that. Oh, 100%.

but doesn't like to cross-dress or like he's not the feminine one in our relationship. Like he's the dominant one. Interesting. You know, other than having, you know, this fetish that's considered a feminine thing, like he is the more dominant one. But that was like my sister's hang up on it. Was like she, I think she kind of assumed that then that means that he's kind of feminine and he's really not at all.

100%. So many guys are like, I'm so glad you fucking just brought that up because I'm a dude, and I like to wear them and has nothing to do with anything else. Like you said, there are people. I always say, like, if there's a Venn diagram and you had, like, hosers and cross-dressers and you put them together, they would not completely overlap. You know, you're going to get 100% hosers that are cross-dressers and cross-dressers that are hosers, but there's a lot of both sides that are not the same, you know?

But I do think that's always one of the biggest things that come up when guys put it out there that the woman gets really freaked out about. Like, what does this mean? Are you gay? Are you into, like you said, cross-dressing? You know, it must mean something more. And I think if it does, you have to be honest about that. If it doesn't, you really have to convey that to your girl because I think sometimes that

is a big thing that a woman, like, look at how long it took your sister to believe you. Like, you're telling her, but she's still like, come on, you know what I mean? Like you had to really convince her that it didn't mean anything more, right? Right. Yeah. I understand why that's a hang up. Totally. you know but I just I don't know I think so for me I'm the more submissive one I like that he's more

dominant and you know prior to him telling me this maybe I would have thought more into it yeah had he not been the more dominant one right I don't know if that was a factor that might have been a factor but to be honest our sex life might not have been as great had he been the more feminine like been more feminine or not, you know, or not had been as dominant because for me, that's a thing for me. Yeah, you're submissive. That's the thing I need. Yeah. So, and not that it's wrong if he wouldn't have been the more dominant one, but it wouldn't have been for me.

Right. So, yeah, I mean, but maybe I would have thought more into it. I don't know. That's just not how it went for us. So. Right. I mean, you guys attracted the right person to each other. I mean, you guys were, you know, one of the lucky ones. I think sometimes there's, I've heard that.

situation. Okay, we're not going to go, I've had that conversation with many other people. That is a tough one to get past because a lot of women tend to be submissive, right? If you say like the stereotype, you know, women like to be submissive and guys like to be the doms, you know. And sometimes when you want a woman who likes to be submissive to switch, she just, she can't roll like that and she doesn't want to see her partner, you know, feminized. But like I said, that's a different, I have plenty of episodes of someone wants to hear that story and how people have gone passes. You didn't have to. You know, what kind of stuff do people get when they go on your only fans?

So my only fans actually is everything. I don't have any boundaries there. I mean, you will see, like, on my feed, like, I do have a higher subscription. It is $6.99 a month. Your first month is discounted. And on my feed, there are, you know, you will see my, You'll see my boobs. You will see my ass. Everything is in pantyhose. I will have a few videos on there of me, you know, playing. If I have something with my partner. So if I have a video with my husband, that is something to be extra for and messages. But my feed is, you know, very, there's nothing off limit there. I take custom requests. I do cock ratings. I can sell. Yeah. What are cock ratings?

Oh, my God. I would love to do some cock ratings. What do you do? Oh, cock ratings are so much fun. But wait, do you ever feel like they want you to rate them bad? Because there is a whole lot of guys out there that are into small penis humiliation.

Like, I've had, I mean, I have too many episodes taped to air, okay, because a lot of guys are into that. So like, do you get a lot of guys that want to be rated bad?

I have not come across that. Not yet? Okay. Nope, I have not. They're out there. I would do it. but I have it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm across that. So, yeah, cock reading. You just send me a photo or as many photos as you want. Yeah.

I will record a video rating, rating your cock, telling you what I want to do to it, telling you what I want to do to me. It's a lot of fun. Wow. I am someone, yeah, like I love dirty talk. Yeah, yeah. But I've always struggled to actually be the one to talk in the bedroom. Yeah. And this has opened a whole door for me.

Like, I'm starting to get really comfortable with talking. And that's been really fun for me. Right. So it's practice to let your freak flag fly. I mean, you are that little naughty girl that likes to be. I mean, even the way you're pitching your stuff on your only fans, you're saying it in a very, like, innocent way. You do keep that mystery.

And that's what you do like, right? You want to be that sort of conservative, nice girl, sweet thing. But I'm a freak over here. But you don't, you sort of don't present that totally, which is good. That's what you want. Like, that's your persona. That's who you are. Yes, I like to leave a little bit of mystery because that is the fun part for me.

And I think that's hot for guys for sure. Yeah, and it's super hot for me. It's a lot of fun. And I love to hear. So, like, I love it when guys message me and tell me, you know, tell me how they feel watching my content. Or, like, I always tell them, like, I have a praise geek and I want to hear all about, like, what you're doing to yourself while you're watching this. Wow. So that turns you on?

Yes, it does. Yeah. Like for real. I mean, like, this is the kind of stuff that's just so great about only fans, I think, is like, because in the past, when there was no only fans and there was only porn, you had to really search far and why to find something that looked real, okay? I always liked amateur stuff because I want, like, the real deal and know that somebody's actually enjoying themselves.

And how great is it that you have the only fans now and you could really go in and meet a girl like you who, like, you really get off on that. Like you, this is like something that you. And so everyone's happy, right? you're getting your rocks off and your guys fine with it. So you're getting adding to your life, right, by opening up this whole thing and being able to have other guys outside of your marriage like compliment you and get you horny. And these guys get to do it and know that it's really working.

So everyone's fucking happy. Oh, yeah. It's so much fun. And like I do sexting sessions too and those are super fun. So everything that I do on my only fans improves my own sex life. Yeah. So it's all real. Like I am learning new skills. Like my sexting skills are getting better. My dirty dog skills are getting better. And, you know, then I get turned on doing all of this stuff that translates to the bedroom later for me with my own husband. Like, it's amazing. Yeah, that's great. Sexing is hard. Okay. It is an art form. Same with phone sex, you know. But once you open up that can of worms, if you really get into it and become good, it's a great party trick to have up your sleep and really up your sleep. And it's really, it's really,

great to have in your relationship because, you know, that's another added thing that you could have between you and your partner that just adds like a hotness to it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad I'm getting better at that because my husband's the literal best texting. Like anytime he would sex me, like, I'm like just so turned on and then I'm taking forever to respond. Yeah, I didn't think about it, right. But I'm getting better and that's been really fun. That's awesome. So wait, how do people find you in Onlyfans? Then I want to talk about your podcast. because that's a new thing. The only fans is Love and Nylon?

No. So my only fans, it is J underscore in Panty Hose is my username. Oh, okay. Yes. So if you go to my Instagram, that is at Here for the Hose, H-O-S-E hose, in my bio there is my link tree, and you will see my only fans at the top of my link tree. And I'll make it super easy for my listeners.

So you send me whatever you want to link to because that call to action is always hard. If I, you don't fucking spell it out. You know, people can't find it. Now let's talk. Let's end with talking about your podcast because, listen, I have a Fetish Friday episode every two weeks out of the month because I still want to do those kinds of episodes. If I wanted to, I could do an episode every week about guys who are into Panios because I get

millions of them emailing me. And I do know that when I have an episode of so many people listen, there's such a huge community out there looking for that kind of content. And I think it's great that you have a whole podcast dedicated to. Like I have an audience that likes to hear about everything. Right. So I can never, like I said, dedicate. That's why I started my paycheck on because I'm like, where do I put all these episodes I have?

Because I have so many people that have found my show. So I think it's so great that you have a specific podcast just dedicated to hosers with hoser content, stuff that they want to hear about. Like what kind of things do you talk about on your show? Yeah. So our podcast is such a passion project. for us. We, we love it. So we have really gotten into interviewing other people within the Pani Host community. Yeah. That was not something that we really intended from the beginning,

but it became our favorite thing to do. So a lot of our episodes are us just having open discussions with other people within the community. We always just start with a basic, like, tell us your background, like tell us your story. And then we just get into it. And we've learned so much. I mean, we've had people on there who, you know, have been into it since they were kids. We've had people on there who got into it from their partners. We've had couples on there. Had people in there from the BDSM community. Flight attendants. That one, that one's great. Oh, yeah, Fly Miranda. I know her. Yeah. Only fans, girls. We get so many. And they're so much fun, just hearing their stories, talking about brands, too. You obviously do that. We have recently

interviewed some founders of different brands. So those are going to be coming. We're really excited about that. All in all, I mean, the intention of our podcast was and still is just to create a positive community around kinks and fetishes. It's primarily been hosiery because that's what we're into. But we do, we are open to talking to other people. Yeah, that's smart. We want to talk to others. Yeah. And we really bring the relationship aspect. We really want more couples on there. We really love, you know, like giving advice to people when they talk about, you know, how to incorporate it into their relationship. And not even just with hosiery, like I said, with any kink or fetish. Totally. We're so into it. And we just, it really is just such a passion project for us to talk to

people and give them a safe space. And it's been amazing. So listen, Jordan, thank you so much for calling in and giving me the female perspective on all things, pantyhose. I love what you and your guy are doing and love in Nylon, the podcast, J&B is what you guys call each other. People, I'm going to put links to all your stuff in the description. I think people should definitely go check out your only fans. You are the real deal. Okay, I think a lot of guys are going to want you to like ogle over their dicks. You know what I mean?

And whatever. So I'll put links to all that so people can check you out. Thanks so much for calling in again. Of course. Awesome. So glad to do this. Thank you. Bye.

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