Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 669 - Jennifer has Been Having a Super Kinky Affair Since she Got Married

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Jennifer has been having a kinky affair since she got married and she called in to talk all about it. How did she meet the guy she’s been sleeping with all this time? What kind kind things do they d...o together? And, how has she been able to keep her affair a secret? Tune in to hear all the details including how she lost her virginity to him and why they never took their hook ups to another level early on, how they both wound up marrying other people and how she had sex with her side guy the night before she got married, their bdsm commitment and what it entails, the backstory on her and her husband and how and why their sex life went out the window, how her guy is also cheating on his wife with her as well as others and how she feels about it, how she hides all the bruises she comes home with, the sex toys she caries that she uses with him as well as how she hides all their texting and online communications, how she was his sub at first and the naughty things he made her do including public orgasms and public sex, their naughty hook ups in hotel rooms and exactly what goes down between them, the time she hooked up with him in his house while his wife was sleeping and what exactly went down, how and why she feels zero guilt over what she does with him, how and why she is now domming him and how she enjoys caging him and controlling when he can have sex with his wife and others, how he recently had a mfm threesome with his wife and how now she wants to have on with him too, how and why she is looking for another guy to hook up with on the side, how she enjoys hearing about the sex he has with others, what she is plaining on doing regarding her marriage with her husband moving forward plus a whole lot more. STAY TUNED: Because the guy she is having affair with called in too and his episode will be out Monday! **To see anonymous pics of JENNIFER and her guy JOHN plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:01:46 I've said this before, but like I just keep adding shit to it and I don't raise the price. Okay, it's still five bucks. You get all the anonymous picks of all my female guests. Some of my guys sent in picks. You're going to see this girl today. Jennifer, her guy, John, who she talks about in this episode. He's coming on my show next. You're going to see picks of both of them. So you will get anonymous, sexy picks of all of my guests over on my Patreon, as well as early and ad-free episodes, as well as all the anonymous confessions. There's hundreds of them, as well as access to my private discord. Now, I started my Discord because people, all my guests, we're always like sending me like X-rated stuff and I'm like I can't put this on my Patreon and I was like where could I
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Starting point is 00:03:11 care less I welcome you back I let you go I say bye bye I say hi if you come back it's all good if you want to sign up it's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast now the links to everything is in the description so if you're driving and I just rattled off way too much information You didn't have time to remember it all. Don't worry, just go to the description. It's in every description and every fucking episode I've had. So anyway, today I have on Jennifer. And now, listen, this is going to be one of those part ones, part two's, okay,
Starting point is 00:03:38 because Jennifer's going to tell this whole story about her and her side guy named John. Now, this is not just a side guy. Jennifer and John have been banging each other behind everyone's back since the dawn of time. I mean, this is the guy she lost her virginity. for some reason they never wound up together they both married other people but they have both been cheating on those other people with each other since day one and i'm going to tell you this you'll hear it in the episode but she literally fucked this guy the night before she married her husband this is how entangled and together these two have been with each other like i said it's not just a side guy they have been in a full-fledged like a relationship and forever. The whole time they've been married.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And they're both hot. Okay, I saw pictures of them. Today you're hearing Jennifer's side of the story. And some of the things that Jennifer says about John and about their setup and what he's doing with his wife now and stuff is going to make you wonder about John's life. And the good news is you're going to find out about John's life because I already taped his episode. And it's even more fascinating than Jennifer's episode.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Okay, you're going to get more details. When you hear his side, you're going to get all the, you're going to get all the, you're going to get the details from her side on this episode. We talk about, you know, her relationship with her husband, why she cheats, how she keeps all of this stuff from him. Because, you know, like I said, she's doing this all the time. They're very into BDSM. So she comes home of bruises.
Starting point is 00:05:07 She's got bags of toys. Like her and John are hardcore involved with each other. She's into being tied up, hog-tied, loves fucking herself with all kinds of dildos. Now she doms him, so she gets into pegging him and caging him. and making him do shit with his wife. She's been domed by him and owned by him. And there's tax, there's pictures, there's videos. He's made her do all kinds of crazy things,
Starting point is 00:05:33 including like, you know, having sex out in public and shit. Like, I mean, you just can't believe the stuff that these two have been doing. Behind their partner's backs. Okay, she does. Like I said, talk about her and her husband, why they're not having sex. What's going on there? How does he not know?
Starting point is 00:05:49 She thinks he doesn't know. What does she think he's doing? because she never has sex with him. She's having sex all or sex with John. You know, it is an interesting, sort of complicated case because John is now changing. He's starting to open up with his wife and get her to do like threesomes and things. She talks about that at the end, which has led her to want to do threesomes with him. So they're at the point where they want to bring in side guys, more guys.
Starting point is 00:06:15 If she winds up eventually having a threesome with him and his wife, she'd be happy. Okay, this bitch is not going anywhere. She's totally into John. I already talked to John. You're getting here his whole side of it. Like I said, which is super interesting. She gets into the specifics of everything. Did I say interesting already?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Because it's super interesting. So anyway, it is a super interesting episode. You're going to want to hear it all. You're going to want to see her. She's hot. He's hot. Like I said, I've seen pictures already. They're over on my Patreon.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You are going to get John's episode next. It's coming out on Monday, not on Friday, on Monday. So you're getting Jennifer's. side of their whole naughty, naughty affair. And then you're going to hear John's side. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Jennifer. Hi, Jennifer. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:05 How are you today? Hello, Kathy. I'm so excited to be on the show today. So excited to share my story. Well, your story is pretty fucking salacious if you asked me, because I just read it before I got on just to refresh my memory and be like, who am I talking to? And I'm like, oh, my God, I already know the title.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Jennifer is married and has a secret boyfriend for the past 30 years. I don't know. I mean, you have this whole, you're married, right? Vanilla relationship. Everything's like good over there, but you have this guy. You're going to call him John, quote unquote. And you've been banging him since you were young. And you haven't never stopped.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You guys have continued to see each other. You do all kinds of stuff together. And this is like a total secret life. Yes, ma'am. My first question to you, because you put this in the email was there was always this thing where we could never be together, me and John. Like, why not? If you and John were like hooking up since day one, there was always this amazing chemistry. Why was it taboo for you guys to be together?
Starting point is 00:08:06 I knew that was going to come up. Let's get that out of the way. Our families are very close. So it would just be like really weird. So we just grew up together. And so they just would not really approve of that. And you never thought to be like, fuck you family, we don't care. I mean, they would have eventually got over it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't think so. Why not? Are you mad? I mean, is it your cousin? No, no. No, we're not related. But why, I mean, why do you think that you're, at the end of the day, your parents wouldn't have been able to get past it if you guys were like in love and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I don't know. I think it was a timing thing. Like, he went and joined the military and I went to college and then we kept meeting up. And then it just didn't work. The timing was never right. So be together in the same place. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Interesting. But yet you can't keep your hands off each other for this many. Yeah. So we would always keep in touch. It started when I was 16. Yeah. So our family has kept meeting and doing stuff together. And then we just, I was like completely attracted to him.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And I just gave in. I'm like, fuck. I had to fuck him. And so he was 18 and I was 16. and I lost my virginity in him. And we were like two hours apart from each other. And I've seen him a lot. And then he went off into the military and we're away for a while and checking back in through text and email.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And I got married. I invited him to be in my wedding. And my family was like, they were going to be in a wedding. I'm like, okay. and they didn't know anything was going on. And so I saw him the night
Starting point is 00:09:55 before I got married and we fucked before I got married which was like totally bizarre. Bad girl. You're a bad fucking girl, Jennifer. I was like, I love you. No, I think you lost him. I wonder if the, oh, our family doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It's the night before my wedding. If that kind of thing, that charge that you've had since the beginning is the thing that keeps you like kind of addicted to it. It does keep us addicted to each other, I believe. So it was like he was in relationships and I was in relationships and we didn't care. It was like, there was this attraction that we couldn't deny. And there still is. And so later on, like in 2016, 17, we hook up again. And we had been hooking up off and on through our marriages conveniently. Okay, I'm in town.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm not in town. I'm close by. And we would go fuck. And it would be like, okay, I see you later. And at that point, I would rest up for him. And he was just, he is my true first love. And I just couldn't let it go. But is there love too or just lust?
Starting point is 00:11:10 That's what I'm a little confused about. There's lust at first. And I was like, it's just a game at first. Like, I was like, I can't get attached to it. And I was just, it'll be less. And I was just very open with him from the very beginning of our relationship. And I wasn't open like that with anybody else from my perspective. But I knew that he was with others.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And so it was kind of like less than at the beginning. And then I was just like, there was a time where we wouldn't talk. And then, like, we'd be back together and talk. And but then I was like in 2017, we committed to a BDSM relationship. And I was like, is this a game or are we doing this? And he was like, no, this is a way that we can be together and we're just going to do this. So wait, because I know that BDSM is a lot of talk, talk, talk, blah, blah, blah. Is that when you kind of fell in love with him because instead of just hooking up every now and then,
Starting point is 00:12:08 you were actually communicating on the daily because of that whole Dom sub thing? yeah it became daily when we were in that committed relationship I'm just wondering when you fell in love with them because my first question was like why did you not ever wind up with him but then you kind of made it seem like it was never that kind of a thing but like when did you feel like oh I'm like in love with this person before you were married in the middle you were married when you started the BDSM relationship like when did love enter the picture I know that sex was always there sex is always there love probably in the in the middle right before the BDSM relationship
Starting point is 00:12:48 right so many many years later you realize oh I'm actually it's more than just this hookup stuff you feel loved did he you guys ever have that conversation with each other yes we we had that conversation before committed to him because we had met up a couple of times and I loved the thrill of meeting up with him and having a session before we even committed because it was just like less like I needed this in my relationship and in my life. So we had that conversation. What is this going to look like? What does this mean? And it was always like long term. I love you. Like I am going to be with you no matter what I will be there for you. And oh, it was just like. So that BDSM relationship that like it was more of a commitment because and like I said, I think that sometimes people
Starting point is 00:13:37 just think BDSM is all about sex. What I've learned is it's like more about other shit than sex. There's not that. No, this is a commitment. This is like where I'm going to tap into you daily. I'm going to have a day of conversation with you. I'm going to control your life. I'm going to control your sex life.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You're going to do what I say. Yeah. And we did that with distance apart from us with a daily contact. And like I completely submitted to meeting up with him more often during. during the year and just I loved being tied up. I loved being just taking advantage of and just being his little sub slave. It was just awesome. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:19 We're going to get into all of this dirty stuff, okay? Trust me. But what I need first before we go into all the salacious stuff that you get into with this guy, I just want a little backstory on your relationship with your husband. But before I go there, I just want one quick question. Does anyone besides me and all my listeners now know about you and him, or is it just you and him? It's just me and him right now. So you've never told anybody else about the fact that you have been cheating on your husband since the dawn of time and been with this guy since the dawn of time.
Starting point is 00:14:55 No one has ever known? Nobody has ever known. Oh, my God. Okay. So now your husband, do you have a great relationship with him? what's your marriage like? I've been married for 29 years. We have a good relationship.
Starting point is 00:15:13 We don't, we're not sexually active right now at this time. He's going through some health issues right now. So, but we were like early on, early on our marriage, we were very sexually active, but it's just kind of like dwindled out, you know. Because of the health reasons or just because you were always getting late someplace else and you didn't really care? Like, I mean, why no sex with your husband? I mean, I did have sex with my husband periodically, but he's not, I am like addicted to sex.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I love that sex all the time, and he does not. And so I've contemplated divorcing. I've contemplated leaving. I've grown through all that. And I don't know if I'll be married much longer to him. I'm kind of working through that. Oh, interesting. 29 years is a long time you had kids and everything with him?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yes. Yes. And so he really hasn't, I'm just really not attracted to him much anymore. Like he's just not taking care of himself. Whereas I'm working out. I'm taking care of myself. It's just an attraction issue at this point. So. Yeah. So he let himself go. You lost interest of him. But you always listen. To be fair to the poor guy. I mean, you always kind of had like your needs being met someplace else. So I think unfortunately what happens in a situation like that is you're less likely to be like, hey, let's like fucking. fix this over here because you're like half the time someplace else, you know, having sex over there. So like this guy's letting himself go and you just let himself go. You're like, whatever, because it doesn't really matter because you were getting your cake and eating at someplace else, right? Yes. And that's horrible to say, but I'm like, it's just the reality of my situation. Yeah. And honestly, it's always been like that. Like, I wouldn't know anything different because I was 16 when I met John and started acting on my feelings.
Starting point is 00:17:04 with dawn and then I was 18 when I met my husband and I was just like, oh my God, I love two people and what am I going to do? And so like the whole society and just let me do the right thing, the timing where we were living at the time. And I want to be loved. So. Yeah, it's sad because you think, well, not sad because listen, you have kids with this guy. You wouldn't be exactly where you are now if you didn't have your life exactly the way that it was. but it is sad that back in those days, you didn't really choose to be with a guy that maybe you really were in love with or supposed to be with because of society, because of what your parents said. Listen, I've seen that story happen to many, many times. People give up the love of their lives because maybe they're not the right religion or there was like some issue with the families or for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And it's a sad story when that person didn't go on to meet like the real love of their life. They met someone subpar. and they're always still pining for that person. I mean, that guy never left your life. Last question before we get to all the salacious stuff you do. If you, because you said you might be contemplating leaving your husband, is there any kind of conversations that you've had with John where you guys, if you did get divorced, would ever be together?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Does he feel the same way that you do about his marriage? At this point, we have, like, I have never asked him to. divorce his wife. He was asked by a previous partner to divorce his wife and he wouldn't. His kids come first right now and I completely understood that. So I don't know what the future will hold for us if after his kids are grown. So yes, we will always be involved with each other. We will always be involved with each other. We will always meet up. So if there was an opportunity for us, I don't, I don't think, I think we would stay single and then just be searching. for other groups of people to do what we like to do.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Right, but not maybe have that committed relationship. And it sounds like he cheats on his wife with multiple people, not just you. He opened up to me about that. Well, I don't constantly need to use with other people, but I'm like, if I'm going to do this, then you've got to be honest with me. Yeah. So, yeah. So he does at times, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Uh-huh. So go about the other people. He's not ready or even thinking about leaving his relationship. So you leaving your husband wouldn't be for him. It would just be for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And for your husband. I was like, I can't give, give, give and not get anything back. Well, I mean, he's not getting that much back either, okay? Because he's got a wife who's like, have someplace else, you know, in love with somebody else. I mean, your husband doesn't have that great of a deal either. I mean, he could find somebody that's more aligned as well, just like you. I mean, you could find someone that you're attracted to and everything. But he could find somebody that's attracted to him.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I mean, there is someone for everyone. You guys are not it. So you're both kind of not really with the right person. So you would want him to maybe meet somebody great for him as well because he's in a sexless marriage. I don't know. Do you think he's getting it someplace else? Not that, no, not that I'm aware of. I know you're addicted to sex.
Starting point is 00:20:19 But even if you're a guy that addicted to sex as much as you are, guys are pretty horny. And I wonder, like, where do you think he gets off? Is he, like, addicted to porn? I mean, where do you think he's, how does he get in the jizz out? I don't think he's even interested in that at this time anymore. I don't know. He'll flirt and play with me, but I'm like, it's just not, it's not attracted to me at all. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:45 But maybe he's blowing guys. I mean, maybe he's seeing guys on the side. I mean, there's, don't you think he's got to be getting in some place or doing something? He's got to be doing something, but I have no idea what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do. They all call into my show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Maybe look up, so 239. Maybe it's your husband. I don't know which one that is, but I'm just saying. If it's a woman in menopause and she's having zero sex, I totally get that. But if it's a guy and he hasn't been having sex with you for a really long time, maybe he's not into women. What kind of man would stay with a woman who like won't fuck him for so many years and just be okay with it? He's not even chasing after you. You're the one that wants him more than him.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So maybe he's not even attracted to women to begin with. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's enough he'll have to call into my show separately like I said maybe he has already so all right generous so now tell me all the crazy things because you like peg this guy you guys are really into BDSM let's get into your situation with quote unquote John so John has all I've always been like comfortable around him and free to be sexually expressive and open and
Starting point is 00:21:55 express ourselves and be with each other however we wanted so it kind of kind of started with him, obviously, and the desire to tie me up. So which I allowed him to do is what I should say. I allowed him to do when I was 18, 19. Mm-hmm. I think I was tied up for the first time. I was like, oh, my God. It was just the whole sensation of it was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And I was just, like, addicted to it. I was just like, oh, I need more. And nobody else had ever done that with me before. And I just loved it. And so in, what, five, seven years ago, seven years ago, we actually committed and really were talking a lot and I was learning a lot and I was reading a lot and about the whole BDSM relationship and how that works. And so we would meet up probably four or five times a year and have sessions. I was tied up. I was gagged.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I was width. I was spanked. I mean, all these things when we did meet. And I was just like, I just, I loved it. The attention he would give me was what I needed, what I wanted. And he would fulfill those fantasies. We would share fantasies and we would share desires. We, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Let me ask you a question, since you don't know right now. If he's whipping you and tying you up and gagging you, I mean, you might show up with a bruise or something when you go home. home? I mean, did you ever have to like? I had to hide bruises, yes. So I never covered them up, but I just passed it off and would lie about it. And no big, though, nobody ever asked me anything. So it's crazy. So your husband never, you were prepared to lie about it, but you never had to because your husband never asked? I never hide them and he never asked. And I would say, oh, it's bruises from this or from that or bumping into something and he would believe me. So, Oh, okay. So he would ask or you would say something about it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I mean, so you would ask and I would take something about it and pass it off. Yeah. Oh, my God, naughty bitch. No big deal. Yeah. So I, yeah, I have to hide everything. I hide everything at home because I have my little black bag. What's in that black bag?
Starting point is 00:24:11 The black suitcase, let's see, leather corsets and leather boots, two pairs of leather boots, about four or five corsets that I have. I purchased or John's purchase for me A paddle I have dills hidden in my bathroom That I use all the time What are they? That my husband doesn't know about
Starting point is 00:24:30 Dildos? Mm-hmm I have dildos that I fuck with all the time Oh yourself? You mean like just playing with yourself? At home yeah because I was when I was being trained I was a sub I was like go buy this Go fuck this
Starting point is 00:24:42 Be in the bed by your husband Fuck yourself Yeah all that kind of stuff With him even knowing about it Wow And your guy, John was directing all of that. Yes, he's directing all this and training me to obey every command. And I did.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And I would have to show proof of pictures and proof of having an orgasm in public and go to the park and show pictures and talk to him the whole time. I'm making myself calm in the park and out in public. And then I'd meet him. We fucked in public. Okay, slow that down right there. Oh, my God. It's just crazy. It's a wild ride.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah, slow that down. Okay, so he tells you, you need to go out and have an orgasm in public. Can you tell me exactly how that happened where you were, what you did? So as we're, as he's training me as a sub and having me get, because I was vanilla. I didn't have any toys. He was like, okay, you're going to learn how to masturbate and make yourself come. And I was like, what? And so this is at the very beginning of being a sub.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And so we, we, we, I bought a vibrator, a wee vibe. I went about a wee vibe and he could control it remotely. And he told me he's, you're going to go to a park after work, a public, you pick a public place. So I picked a park where people were outside and it was after work in the daytime. And he's like, you're going to make yourself come. And I'm going to make you come. And so I did. I went and sat like on a park bench and in the park and.
Starting point is 00:26:16 had the we vibe in and he was controlling it and just made me come and I was like oh my god this is crazy so I did that and that was just the feelings and the adrenaline and the endorphins just running while you're out in public and let's real love at all you know that's exciting that kind of stuff can be addictive right did you wind up going and doing that a lot I did that two times by myself and then I met with him and we we fucked in public when I met up with him. Where? We were out in a park by fountain in the evening time like before dinner and just bit me over and fucked me.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I was in a dress. I was in a little dress and just bit me and were and fucked me in the evening time of the park and this is people and we know at least two people watched us do that. So strangers, but it was crazy. crazy. It's fun. We've had fun with it. We enjoy it. And it's the thrill of it. It's exciting. But now if you're taking pictures and you're videotaping and like all these kinds of things that you're sending John and he's instructing you and you have that bag like, how do you hide all that stuff on your phone? Do you have two phones? Do you ever worry that like your husband would find anything on
Starting point is 00:27:36 your phone? Because if with all this communication like where's all this shit? It's all Like I have apps I have phone photo apps that are hidden And we communicate through an app that Deletes in 24 hours so What up is that? There's no record
Starting point is 00:27:55 Of us communicating What app is that? We're communicating on dust Dust Oh is that like a cheating place I mean listen you don't know people want this information Like how do you do it? We communicate on dust.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You can communicate and send everything on dust and it'll delete in 24 hours. Oh, interesting. Also texting and videos, yeah. So if you have half a brain, you know that if you want to find out if your partner's cheating and you go through their phone right now, look through their apps. And if you see something called dust. Because why else would someone have dust and deletes in 24 hours? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:36 We have our regular cell phone numbers too, but we don't communicate through that. And then we have like private emails too. So. Right. So that it's super hidden. Where do you have that black fucking suitcase? Okay. Because like I always think, oh my God, you're going to die. It's out of the open.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Mine's in my closet. What? Mine's in the back of my closet. And I'll take two suitcases when I leave and go on trips. And so it's no big deal. Isn't it so interesting? I'm always so surprised by people whose brains work like normally, I guess. I think maybe I'm the odd one because you're,
Starting point is 00:29:09 Your husband has never, he sees you taking those suitcases in and out. Like I guess maybe why would you look through someone's suitcases? I don't know. Take the suitcases in and out. Or he's gone and I'll bring him in when he's not present. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff going on. He's never looked in that, right? They're just your suitcases and they're just there.
Starting point is 00:29:27 He has no clue. He has no clue. I have no reason to give him any doubt about our relationship, I guess. Well, I'm sorry. If he was my friend and he was telling him. me that you've never fucked him in so long, but yet you're still working out and taking good care of yourself. I'd be like, she's got a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I mean, who the fuck are you? I always wonder about that. Like, I've always wondered that I've never gotten caught. I've never. Yeah, you wonder. That's why I wonder if he's not doing something himself that he's busy with, that he's not even,
Starting point is 00:30:03 listen, if you're half turned around somewhere else, I think sometimes people could smell that shit from a mile away, whether it's a man or woman eventually you kind of could catch wind. I think sometimes the only time it doesn't happen, and there could be other reasons for it, but sometimes it could be because that other person's doing the same shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I don't know. Yeah, he might be. I have no. And then we just get to a point where we're like, okay, we just can't do this together anymore. That's where a decision needs to be made. Yeah, because listen, you are like, it's not like you're a woman, whether you're a woman or a man,
Starting point is 00:30:36 if you're, like, cheating and having one-offs, maybe seeing an escort someone paid every now and then one thing right but you're like to me no offense but like the worst kind of cheater because it is it's like it's a deep kind of very involved totally separate thing i mean you are like when i say you are yeah it's like a double life yeah that's what i mean when you it's like a double life yeah you are like literally a whole part of you is someplace else and is being given to somebody else at all times. That's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Especially once you guys turned it into this whole BDSM thing. You're so enslaved, you're getting beat up. You're getting like whipped and tied up. And not only that, this isn't some stranger you met on Craigslist. This is a guy that you've known since you were 16. He was in your fucking wedding. Is your husband really good friends with him still? It's like almost unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I just, yeah. It's believable to me because I've been doing my show and I know that these stories exist, but it is, it's just kind of crazy is what it is. But let me ask you this. Does John come around a lot as a friend to your family? Do you ever see, does your husband ever see him or is he like not in the picture? According to your husband. He's like a family friend in the picture and he knows that I speak with him occasionally.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And we've been invited to each other's home. homes a couple of times through the years and stuff. Uh-huh. I've been up to John's house with my family members, but my husband never wants to go. He says no interest in going. Uh-huh. So I've taken my kids. I've taken other family members to visit John's family for celebrations, birthdays,
Starting point is 00:32:28 retirements, family get-togethers, yeah. And now he's got a wife. Are you friends with that wife? Yeah, I'm friends with her. Right. So when you go to those hookups and family things and you're there, do you guys sneak away and do stuff behind her back? We did that for the first time last, this summer. Really? This summer, like right now, summer, this summer that we're in right now? This summer, yes. This summer, I met up and I went to a family event at his house, and that's the one he was writing about.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I was and I wrote about. Wait, wait. What do you mean wrote about? Well, he's going to, you're interviewing him later this week. And so he shared that in his story. Oh, okay, okay. Where I, where I visited his house. And then we snuck up.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Because I'm dumb right now. And so he was like, and I'm like, I am only going to be here for family. And he's, no, you're fucking me. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And so we had a little argument, but we ended up being up in the game room after everybody went to sleep. And yeah, he ate my pussy. I was just like, fucking eat my pussy and then I'm going to bed. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So I'm talking to him separately. So I'm going to get his whole side of this story. Yeah, you'll get his whole side of those. I believe tomorrow. Oh, okay, good. Okay, good. So wait, so you did, that was the one time that you did, but you're friends with the wife, you could totally compartmentalize it when you're hanging out with her.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like, you don't feel bad that you're like fucking her husband this whole time. Not really. Isn't it so interesting how people could like frame things and I don't know. I'm like in this little box. I always been visiting like John and I in this little black box and we open Pandora's box every once in a while and when we were together. But yeah, we can compartmentalize and it takes a while to get to that point that I was like for doing this. I wanted to be around socially and accepted like that and just keep it on the download. But yeah, we've met up over.
Starting point is 00:34:32 the years and snuck around over the years forever all over the place so different hotels different cities so the good news about this story is i'm going to get your guys story too because he's going to come on but i want to get some juicy details about what you actually do with him during your hookups they sound pretty salacious sometimes you wind up with bruises i know that you're into bdsm what's like the craziest thing that you guys ever did? I don't know. Is there, are they all crazy?
Starting point is 00:35:05 They are all crazy. What we usually do is we'll do the foreplay through texting and plan out the scene together and make sure there's consent before we meet. And I have been tied to the ceiling in a hotel room with a bar sputter and then bar sputter between my legs. I've been hogtied. I've been sucked with dildos and I've been
Starting point is 00:35:33 sucked by him and then like a double penetration with him and like a toy blindfold him and a toy at this point the goal is to have another guy come into our scenes
Starting point is 00:35:52 and that's kind of where we are now Oh really? Yes I control him now. I'm Doming now. I'm on me now he is totally needs to be controlled there's a lot of people who want to fuck him well i saw picks he doesn't have a hot body i mean i didn't see any face he is hot i mean you're hot too i saw picks of you and him but i didn't see face right because everything's anonymous and those anonymous picks will be on my page up but you'll also do the dirtier picks because the first you send me dirty picks i'm like no those are for me those are for my discord you could pose those but
Starting point is 00:36:25 he looks great i apologize no it's okay you every single person does it. That's why I started my Discord because I'm like, where am I going to put all this stuff that everyone does want to see, but I can't touch it. And that would be awesome. Yeah, yeah. You're all going to be able to show off you guys over on my Discord. But what I mean, he does look great for what I saw. It's not like he's 25, but it looks like there's a 25 year old body. I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:47 his body was hot. We're both in our 50s. And so it's just, he's more intimate with me. We're open. I don't know, but I've got to keep you on. track. Okay, here, listen. You just said a lot, like, that you're thinking about bringing another guy, that you're doming him. Yes, we're to that point where I'm okay to be shared. Like, he wants to share me with another guy. And I am like, that would be fine. And so we're willing, we're open now in our relationship and on our conversations with each other to share each other and have a male,
Starting point is 00:37:22 male, male, female, threesome, or, or even two females would be. be fine with me. So I'm looking here in where I'm at for for a side piece. So that's kind of where I'm at. We love to tell each other what we do with other people. And I will, he will ask permission and I will say yes or no. And I love the denial part of that because it drives him crazy. So wait for you to say you can't, the denial of him being able to go and fuck someone else? So where's the denial of that? Yes, I have total control over that right now. Okay, I got to try and keep this in chronological order
Starting point is 00:38:02 without missing any of this good stuff that everyone wants to hear. Okay, but I do want to keep you on track. So how does it change from him doming you to you doming him? What did that change happen? He domed me for four years. And we met up at least five times a year during that where I was the sub and I was being tied up. I was being blindfolded.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I was being pegged in the ass at the end of that. And I bought a strap on to peg him in the ass. I mean, just gradually got into more toys and more exploration and more orgasms. And every time we met, it was him tying me up and doing things to me. And then it slowly progressed where he shared with me that he was being approached by other people, which I think he was already doing that. but I didn't it didn't bother me so then he was open and honest with me about like other people that he wanted to be with him or ladies that were coming up to him and wanting his cock and I'm like no this
Starting point is 00:39:07 I'm like okay well then I need to control the cock so that's where I was like I'm picking out a cage and you're going to be caged and you're going to have to ask permission so then he was caged for a year and a half but how does a guy who's married first of all I think that's the pick I got from you him in a fucking cock cage. I was like, no, I can't see that. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:39:26 How does he stay in a cock cage when he's married? I mean, and he's doing this on the deal. He sent me pictures constantly. Every day, I have a picture. Every day I commanded.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And then he hid it from his wife. At this point, they're not having sex very often. I can't wait to talk to him. Yeah, it's amazing. And he's like, I can't believe I gave you.
Starting point is 00:39:51 You know, and it's like, I'm like, yes, this is my dream of always owning your sex life and controlling it, because that is what I need to know. What are you doing? Who are you doing it with? And so we did that. And I just freed him in January.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So, and it's what July now. So yeah. So he's been free for six months and he's crazy. But for that six months, for this past six months, have you been now? Because it just sounds like, you know, you kind of roll with whatever is in front of you and you've been into all different kinds of things that's progressed kind of naturally for you. Now, at this point, before you were into and turned on by him being denied and not being
Starting point is 00:40:34 able to fuck anybody, but now that he's allowed, do you get off on the fact of him fucking other people by any chance? Do I think he sinks around behind. I don't know if I know everything that goes on because we're five hours apart, but no, He obeys. He, he, I didn't hear the question. Sorry. Do you have any cock queen in you?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Are you interested now that he's out of the cock cage to know that he goes and fuck somebody else? And does that turn you on? Yes, that turns me on. And yes, we tell each other. Yeah, we tell each other what we're doing with other people. So he tells you, but you still think, and I know guys like this, okay, so I know it sounds, doesn't make any sense, but I know that it does make sense because every guy I know, is like this where you tell them you can tell me anything and they tell you some things but
Starting point is 00:41:24 you know that they're not telling you everything and you're like why not i don't fucking know it doesn't make sense but it's true so is that what you're telling me is your guy like he tells you some things and he knows you're turned on by it but you still don't feel like you're getting the whole story i know that he's doing more than what he's telling me but he will say no i'm telling you the truth but i'm not there right and it doesn't bother me i just if something major comes up where he he had the opportunity to fuck his wife and another guy and he told me and I'm like okay you've got to be honest with me and tell me and he does and so but I'm open enough with him that I know that it doesn't bother me I want to know about it and then I want a part of it too so I'm like
Starting point is 00:42:11 no you're going to share my talk with me and somebody else too when we meet up and we'll schedule Oh, that's a little bit of a different story. So the way the MMF threesome came into play is because the Dom and you found out he went and did it with his wife and you're like, no, no, no, no, I have to have that too.
Starting point is 00:42:31 That's what got you guys talking about that. Right. He's sharing that this came up with her because he's trying to fix things with his wife too and have a sexual relationship with her. I'm like, well, I'll open it and work on it with me and then you work on it and tell her this and then see if this comes up. And then so they kind of have an open relationship now where they didn't be four.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So and that's where I'm like, well, I want an open relationship with you too. If I'm going to stay in this relationship. And you know, I want you in a relationship. And so I want to give you this. And so let's find this and let's do this. Let's get another male. Let's get another couple. Let's get other people.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And let's play. So I'm not like emotionally so wrapped up in this that I would. I would fall apart. It's fun. It's play. I care about him. I love him. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:24 if I'm going to be here at this point in our life, then I want to know and I want you to be honest with me. Yeah, but I'm just going to tell you straight up, and it took me a long time to realize this. I have a couple things I have to say to you, after that big little thing you just said.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You said a lot right there. It's a lot of this, this, and this. But just using the word this, it said a lot to me. You might never get the full truth from that guy. And there are just certain people like that. And it always really bothered me because I'm a very open person. I always expected the same back.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And it's taking me while to understand that. Just some people are not going to give that to you. And it's their right. I actually realized and got to the point where I realized like it's their right. Everybody has their own level of being open that is comfortable for them. And some people want to hold certain things to themselves and they don't. And that's their right. It's not like just because I say they have to tell me.
Starting point is 00:44:15 everything that they have to. It's not, I don't deserve that. Not everyone needs to be open. Like I said, everybody is different. So he may never be as open with you as you want him to be. But like I said, I believe that, I mean, that's just what you got to deal with with him. That's how he rolls. That's his boundaries. And you have to respect that because that's his way of doing things. I do feel like you're a lot more invested in this than you think. I don't think it's going to end anytime soon anyway, so I don't think
Starting point is 00:44:49 you're going to be crushed. But I think you would be if he divorced his wife tomorrow and wound up with the girl and was like, you know what? I'm in love with someone else and I just don't, I feel too bad. Like, I can't be with you anymore. I don't think you'd be like, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:45:04 No, I would be like, okay, let's, we'll cool off for a couple of years, but you'll always come back to me. No, no, no, no, no, but just for the fact that you have to believe that that's the story tells me that you could not deal with the reality of him actually leaving you. I don't believe that. I think you're way more invested. I don't know that he ever will. Like I said, I don't even worry about that for you, but I'm just saying that I don't think you would be okay with it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Because just like you just said, yeah, I would be fine with it because I know we'd come back. So you're not fine with what I said. You're fine with him leaving you for a couple of years, but then him coming back. Would you be fine with him leaving you, falling for the girl of his dreams and never banging you ever again and just falling in love with somebody else and just being friends with you and not allowing you to have that part of him? Like you have had your whole fucking life? I don't think so. No, not really. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah. There would be some pain there. You guys, listen. And how abnormal would it be if that wasn't the case? I mean, come on. I've been with you for 35 years. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So whatever you do, just tell me I'm not going to leave. Right, but that's where these kinds of problems exist. He knows that you wouldn't, maybe you wouldn't be fine with everything. I mean, like when you find out that he's going to do something with his wife, you're like, oh, no, no, I have to have that too. I mean, you do feel like you're very on guard and to try to keep the status quo of what you have with him. Especially, and I understand it, because you don't got anything. Yeah, you don't got anything going on at home. Like he is filling up more in your life than he has before.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You lose him. You got nothing in that piece of pie because you don't have your husband fucking you. You don't have that intimacy with him. Yeah, we're working on that too. Right, but you better fucking work on that because if he's working on it with his wife, you don't want to be kind of like in the, you don't want to be in the, you know, You're doming now. Yeah, you don't, you're doming now.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You don't want to go back to the subposition where you're feeling a little bit more desperate for that relationship than him. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah, that's what you have to be careful for. Like as much as you have this thing going on with him and I want more of the hot details, I think you like him, if he's never leaving his wife and he's trying to work things out and make things hot there, like you should also be working on your relationship with your husband if you want to make that work too. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I mean, some people would be like are saying in the. mind like but kathy like how could you work on something when you're fucking cheating on someone the whole time like probably the first thing to work on your relationship would be like don't cheat how can you separate it but somehow i have over all these years and so it's it's been incredible but so did he have the threesome with his wife i mean i know i'm going to talk to him he did yeah he has and they've even this has just been in the last six months oh oh so he's like how do you feel about things heating up? I said, I'm fine as long as you ask permission. So, because he is not ready to switch back and dom me right now. So we've talked about that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 We talked about that in June. So why not? I haven't gotten there yet. So I haven't had to, I haven't had that long conversation with him. So. But you don't you enjoy the doming position? I think you need the doming position now. Yes. I enjoy the doming right now. It's been, almost two years. Right. But the past six months after you left him out of the cock cage, now he's doing all this kinds of stuff with his wife. Yeah, and he's asking permission.
Starting point is 00:48:47 So, and he's telling, and he's telling me how the fucker. And I'm telling him, like, you must tell me back. And so we're sharing sex stories and all that, kind of how he's acted out and things like that. So he gets off on it. Of course, I'm sure, because that's that whole supercharge, like dirty, cheating, kind of. thing going down. I've ordered him
Starting point is 00:49:07 sex toys and I've ordered him yeah, we've ordered sex toys for each other and commanded each other to do things and so So you command him to do stuff with his wife Uh huh, oh yeah Yeah, so you're kind of like in there In the bedroom like that's like you're the little
Starting point is 00:49:23 part of you that's like a totally situation It's awful It's naughty Wait a second So he's fucking his wife And with all the fantasies that you're you guys talk about. He's living them out over there. She, I'm assuming
Starting point is 00:49:39 doesn't know, but we're going to talk to him, so I'm going to get to the bottom of that shit too. She doesn't know, but you're in the no, and he's like taking picks and stuff with her. She's thinking for him and her to enjoy, but he's sending them to you.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Oh yeah, anytime we meet up, I get a gift, and I just ordered him some more things. So we'll meet up again, and then he'll receive them. So, no, no, no. The gift is he sends you pictures of him and his wife. That's what I said. Oh, no, he won't send me pictures of him and his wife.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Well, he sent one. He's like, I'm laying here. And he sent one, he sent pictures of me in bed cage next to his wife. Yes. He did. So he does send you sort of information and you do get off on knowing that he just did to his wife or use the toys that you bought kind of stuff like that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Right? You bring that together. That's a part of your guys like turn on. this whole. Yes. Aye, aye. It's so fucking twisted. Control.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yes. Control and sharing information. Right. And that's like a part of the turn on. So you're doming him. He doesn't want to dom you back. He's interested. He likes being domed at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:50 He likes being domed at this time. Yes. Mm-hmm. And does he have an interest or has he fooled around with a guy? He has fooled around with a guy when he was younger, which he shared with me. Mm-hmm. And I don't know if he shared that with anybody else. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Like again, I just take in the information and don't judge him and just we're very honest and open with each other about that. And so he, yeah, he was sending me biport in the other day. And I'm like, you want this, don't you? And he's like, well, I wouldn't mind. And I'm like, you're going to suck a guy's dick. And he was like, ha, that's funny you say that. So, yes, he's very vicarious and he wouldn't care. As long as he can have an orgasm, he's fine.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah, he's feeling you out. he really probably would love to really be completely out with you and probably will be as long as every time he does that you give him the right response and he knows that it's okay he'll eventually be fully honest with you but I think that that's his way which I totally understand of him coming out to you and putting that on the table yes right I mean do you yes so we're very fun so so he's he's had an M&F with his wife with people in their circle of friends. And so I'm like, I'm not open like that with my husband at this point. So I like to hear about what they do and I need to hear about what they do. I told him if I'm going to stay in this relationship and don you, then you have to be honest with me. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I've talked to other Dom people and sometimes it sounds like, wow, like I, you know, I think everyone wishes they could be a Dom because it is kind of like you put yourself in a position where, you put the term dom on it but all you are is like a girl that sort of just wants to make sure she's getting all the information and she's getting what I mean like it like an insecure girl that it would be jealous if she doesn't know everything so she has to so she creates this dom sort of experience and then she gets all the information but is it coming from like where is it coming from I think it's coming from the place where that's where you're getting your security in this relationship you're right I think so too and as long as it's happening that way
Starting point is 00:53:05 he's communicating with me, then I'm fine with that right now. It keeps us connected at this point. Yeah. And I think because you're losing your connection with your husband, you need more to latch on to over there. Right. And I feel that. And I feel that.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Yeah. That's just, listen, because I'm talking to you, it's going to be a different conversation when I'm talking to him, right? But talking to you, I would say, you know, pretend we're friends for 10 years. And I knew this whole story. I just heard all of this. I would be saying to you, listen, Jennifer. Like, it's good you got this.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'm glad you're fucking having fun. I don't really believe in cheating, but it's what you've been doing since the dawn of time, like, whatever, you know. But it's starting to kind of shift and change. If it wasn't shifting and changing for the better in his relationship, I wouldn't see a slight red flag. But because there is that shift over there, and it does sound like he's going to be open to guys and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I hope that you really try to figure out your place, not just with him, but your place, like, without him as well, so that you have as much. Like, it sounds like he's really getting to the place where he's being really true about him and himself and fixing his relationships. And it sounds like you're very focused on you and him. And then you got this other thing. Like, but what about you? You know what I mean? Like, just make sure you. pay attention to you and your needs, not just with him, but in your whole life, like he's doing.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. It sounds like he's coming into his own. I feel like I'm going to be talking to a man that's finally getting to a good place and maybe he'll be open with his wife. Did he ever talk about letting her know about you considering they have an open relationship and they are open with each other? Yeah, they're just beginning to be open with each other. So we've talked about that. And so we've talked about having a session together and a session together. So that's kind of how he's, I just started talking with her about the open. We just started being open.
Starting point is 00:55:13 So that might happen down the road. Wow. So I don't have a problem with that. Wow. It's complicated, but I love it. I love it. And we take care of each other. You know, I am taking care of myself and working on that.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And then hopefully there will be a guy that I can bring into the relationship as well. well. So that's what we're working for. Right. So instead of you really trying to make your guy, the other guy in your situation, like he made his girl into his other girl, you are looking outside of your marriage for that other guy. Yes. And so that we can share. Yes. Right. Because you're not, you don't believe your husband would ever be down to being open or anything like that. No, I don't think he would at all. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Did I ever ask you if you're still in love with your husband? I love him. And John and I have talked about this. Like we love our spouses. Yeah. But there's just like a different purpose, I guess. I have a different need, feeling different needs. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And getting them fulfilled. So yes, I love my husband. And we did talk about that. We were in the middle of this BDSM and committing to that. So. About how you feel about your partners and how this is, yeah. is separate. It's completely separate than that relationship. But it does sound though, and this is the last one I'm going to bring up that he is bringing
Starting point is 00:56:40 his release that his relationship is changing and he might build more feelings for his wife once he's able to share with her as much as he's been sharing with you. Because it seems like for this whole time what you have had with him and this is where I get worried for you a little bit is that what you have had with him is like the real him and nobody else really has had that. right, that's something special you have shared. He's only been able to be open with you and do it. But now he's kind of starting to do it with his wife. Yeah, he's becoming more open with her.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And that might make that, no, but I'm just saying that might make that relationship change in other ways than just sexually. Like that love feeling that you seem to have similar with him for, like might be, get better because he's now being as open with her as he was with you. you. Right. And if that happens, that's great because if he's, he's, he's happy with that on the daily and in his daily life, and that's better for us. So, and that's kind of what we talked about. If you're happy and satisfied daily, then that's great. And then, then you're going to be fucking his husband. I mean, his wife. Yeah. I mean, I can be a part of that. And then, um, just continue to be open. And then we could have me,
Starting point is 00:58:02 the lifestyle that we crave, where we're open with each other. Right. And he's pushing that forward, which is good. Somebody's got to, listen, if that's where you guys want to go, someone's got to change the fucking game, right? And he's definitely doing that. And the good news is he's making headway with his wife. I mean, it's going to be super interesting to talk to him to hear how he's been able to do all this with her
Starting point is 00:58:23 and how that progressed and what's going on with him with guys and what went down at that male, male, female threesome with his wife and stuff. Right. Because he, I think he emailed you about that too. Yes, I can't wait to hear about. And that's just recent. And so I'm like, this is awesome. So you're moving that forward with your daily, daily life that you're having and daily communication, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:48 So. And just to add that too, you know, we would just be like, now I've got to get the point where I've got to do that and then be open. Well, I mean open, but have another. Right. You need to do that, but you know that it's not going to work with your husband. So you got your now. for that other guy so that you also have the same thing that he's getting over there. And you guys can come together and do even like progress further and do all these threesomes.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Yes, that's the ultimate goal. Yeah, yeah. Because it sounds like you guys been fantasizing about that for a long time with all these toys and stuff. But now you guys want the real thing. Right. Yeah. Have you ever been with a woman? It's always another level.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course it has to be, right? Keep it going. Yes. Yeah, especially when it's something like this where it's supercharged. It's not, listen, every. day relationships don't have to have, don't have to always progress to something more because they just kind of are. It's a very different kind of feeling. It's just a, it's just a leveled
Starting point is 00:59:42 thing. And I think some people that only are used to superchurch things like this, sometimes they don't, they're not comfortable in a regular relationship because they don't realize, like, that's not a regular relationship. A regular relationship isn't fucking fully charged like cheating sexes. And that's why people get addicted to it because it's like a hit of cocaine. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. And but when you have that kind of a thing, you're 100% correct. There has to always be something more because whatever you get used to as that baseline,
Starting point is 01:00:09 if you don't, if you don't keep going up higher, then it becomes like your regular relationship. Same thing. So now you're at the point where you want more people. What an interesting story I have to say. Oh, thank you. I mean, I am going to get a lot out of your guy, Jennifer. Okay. So I hope you listen to his.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That sounds great. Do you want me to get anything out of him? you don't think you could get out of him? I don't know. No, you're good. I think he'll share with you. You're going to really, oh my God. I think he'll be excited to share.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah, I can't wait now to talk to him. It just sounds like he has a super interesting backstory. I can't wait to get his take on your guys saying, not only that, but also the progression of his marriage, I think, is interesting. I hope for you the same or something happens with you where you could get to a better place because. There's time. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:58 We have a short life. I'm going to have fun. Yeah, but you do want to like, I don't know, with your husband eventually, this is 30 years from now, you're going to still not be fucking him and not have any relationship. I mean, eventually you're going to have to figure that out. I hope that you do. Oh, yeah. I will. Yeah, that you take care of that too.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yes. I can't wait to get his stories. And then maybe after you guys starts banging his wife and stuff, I don't know, I'm going to have you both on together. I'll give you a call back. Oh, yeah. I love these kinds of stories that are just like a chapter in time. I mean, you guys have a lot of backstory, but you are progressing forward
Starting point is 01:01:34 and things are changing on the daily, which is super interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you both are hot. I already saw pictures of you guys. So if people want to see the pics, go over to my Patreon. Links will be in the description.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And stay tuned for your guys episode, right? I guess I'm going to wait till I tape him and air yours right before his. So it'll be super interesting. People will get instant gratification. to hear from your guys side of the story. But thanks so much for calling in and telling yours. Sounds great. Thank you so much. No, thank you, Jennifer. Bye. Thank you, Kathy. Bye. Bye.
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