Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 671 - John is Having a Kinky Affair with Jennifer (ep.670) that Involves BDSM, Pegging, Tease and Denial and More

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

John is having a long term affair that Involves BDSM, pegging, tease and denial and more and he called in to talk all about it. How and why has he been having this kinky affair? Who else does he cheat on his wife with? And, what exactly goes down when he cheats? Tune in to hear all the details including all the other women he cheated on wife with including the older woman from the gym who taught him everything including prostate orgasms and the woman who turned him on to bdsm, how he knew his wife was cheating on him as well and why he didn’t care, how and why he loves being pegged and how it got him to squirt, when and how he turned Jennifer on to bdsm and make her his sub and turned her into a size queen, how and why he then switched to being her sub, how and why he loves being told when he can and cannot have sex, how and why he enjoys Jennifer owning his dick, how she put him in cock cage for over a year and how he hid it from his wife, how his his cage from wife, how he eventually confronted his wife about her cheating with another guy, how they all wound up in a threesome together and what exactly went down, the couple swap he had recently with his wife and how that went, how he tried to get wife to peg him and why she isn’t down for it, how he tells Jennifer about what he does with his wife and how Jennifer enjoys hearing about it, how and why he feels like Jennifer is ultimately helping him with his wife, how he wants Jennifer to get a boy toy so then they can all have a threesome, how Jennifer can now squirt and deep throat and what is in store for them down the line, how he loves Jennifer pegging him and how he wants his wife to peg him too, how he would be open to hooking up with a guy and how far he’d probably go plus a whole lot more, **To see anonymous pics of JOHN AND JENNIFER plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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picks of my callers as well as post X-rated picks of you or CX-rated picks of everyone else. I mean, people are getting super naughty there. Like I said, I don't get involved in Discord, but to get access to it, you got to join my Patreon. Like I said, it's only $5 a month. It's a great deal because you get all of that and you could cancel at any time. Now, you will see today's guest, he will be going on to Discord and posting some X-rated picks. His girl, Jennifer, who called in the other day, okay, I promised you. If you listen to Jennifer, episode. This is her guy's episode, okay? She already went on to Discord and posted her X-rated picks. Uh, so today's episode is her guy John. Now, if you have not listened to Jennifer's

episode, okay, it was 670, you need to get her whole story. She was like the appetizer. I'm like John's episode is the main course. Okay, you're getting a lot more information about their scenario as well as John's scenario. on this episode. So if you haven't heard Jennifer's backstory, this is the girl that he's cheating on his wife with. Jennifer, she called in. Last week, I aired her episode on Wednesday.

She talked all about this guy, John, that she's been having sex with behind her husband's back for the whole time she's been married. She fucked him the day before her wedding, okay? This guy, John. So I needed to get his side of this story because he's also, like I said, been cheating on his wife with Jennifer

throughout his whole marriage. And they do a lot of kinky things. And now John is also doing kinky things with his wife. Like you're not going to believe John's story. You're going to get so much more of a picture of their whole relationship. Once you hear his description of what's going down, he's more descriptive. He talks a lot about his past, which was pretty hardcore. Even without Jennifer, he was always cheating on his wife with other people.

He got into BDSM. He got into pegging, teasing. tease in denial. He was fucking a lot of other women when he was younger that taught him all kinds of things. And he was always down, super open, doing things though, like living a secret life, right? Like, for sure.

And it's kind of funny because you're going to think it's funny later in the episode when he goes into this whole religious thing. And I'm like, oh my God, religious people. You're not really religious. It's kind of like a hypocrite. But that happens later in the episode. It's funny. But he does, like I said, talk about all the girls he's cheated on,

what he's done with him, all the dirty things he has done with them, as well as all the dirty things he does with Jennifer. They're very into BDSM as well. He turned her onto it. At first she was like his little sub and he liked that. And then she switched. She was like the dom and now he's the sub and he's in cock cages.

And he talks all about that and how it works with his wife. And now she's like in charge of him and doesn't let him fuck his wife. And he listens to her and he tells Jennifer about what goes down with him and his wife. I mean, it is just like a crazy story. And what's even crazier is recently he started to do crazy things with his wife. Like they had a threesome with another guy. And you're not going to believe who the other guy was, is or was or is in her life. And it gets like super complicated, but it's super interesting.

Like I said, you're going to get so much more insight into their relationship. Jennifer and John, when you hear from John, you're going to love this episode. It's kind of funny. It's super interesting. He tells a good story. He's a funny guy. So anyway, I'm going to be right back home with John. Hi, John.

Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing great. How are you doing, Kathy? I'm doing good. So listen, John, I've already heard your girl. I don't know if she's your girl or your side girl, side piece. You know, your secret.

But she's so much more than a side piece because literally you guys. have known each other forever. It's kind of weird to me. Like I went into it with her. She was just on. I'm airing your episode right after hers, Jennifer, right? And she explained how you guys have known each other since you were very little. I was kind of like, why did this, why was this never allowed to become a thing where not only

are you guys each other's sexual partners, but lovers and companions and best friends? because you seem like you have everything as well as that background of knowing each other for so long. Like, why did you guys not wind up together? You're both with other people, but you both are cheating on your other people with each other. That's correct. For a long time. Yeah, real long. 30 years.

So to me, that's like an affair. It didn't start out that way in the beginning. It just started out as we were fuck buddies. You know, we met. I mean, that's what it really was. We'd meet up. I was in the military, and I didn't want any type of a relationship. So we went after, you know, she was 16, I was 18 or 19.

We, we fucked for the first time. I took her virginity. And it was just, I was in the military and I was going. I was always somewhere else around the world and never wanted to get into a relationship with anybody. And even, and that was my whole whole goal was just to, that was my life right at that point. time. Now, mind you, I was, I was fucking other people at the time. I had my deal what I was doing because I was so young, but I was in a process of learning. And we would meet up once a year or,

you know, for a while, we'd go a couple years without seeing each other. But we did know each other from a very young age. And it was just something that we, we just had a sexual attraction to each other. Uh-huh. But you were friends too as well because you had, like, weren't you in her wedding or she was in your wedding? I mean, right? Yeah, I was. in her wedding. Yeah, I was in her wedding. We fucked the night before she got married. Oh, my God. I'm kind of thinking that was going to be the last time we would do it, you know,

not knowing that, hey, this is going to continue. So you're thinking, okay, let's just get this one last thing in right before because it's never going to happen again. Oh, my God. Yeah, that was it. And, you know, I went on with my life. She went on with her. We didn't see each other for a few years. We would stay in touch, phone calls and letters while I was overseas. but you know she was having kids and going on with her life and I had no intentions of

wanting to settle down with anybody because of what I was doing and you know and I kind of go into this because I was like the late late 90s I ended up meeting a girl named Wendy that she became my sex educator before her I did not eat pussy I did not do anything and I tried doing it to her and she's like what the fuck are you doing You don't, let me teach you how to do this. Oh, tell me about Wendy. Was she a lot older than you? Like, and how did you meet?

Yeah. Well, in the gym. I was either, I was always working out, and I met most of the girls I would fuck in the gym. You know, it was, you know, working out made me hornier than anything. So I would pick up on these girls. Well, I hooked up with her, and we went out. She's the first person that gave me a blow job and swallowed. And, I mean, that almost made me fall.

for her. Wait a second. You said she was older than you. How much older? Five years older. Okay, so she was five years old. She's an older broad. You meet her at the gym.

She knows what she's effing doing. And she was the first. How old were you at that point? 26. Wow. And you had never got a blowjob from somebody who swallowed before a 26? Nope. Never.

Never happened. Wow. Okay. So it was, I mean, I was like, oh, this is why everybody loves it so much and talks about it. But that. She turned me, she brought some things out of me that she got my kinks going. She brought another girl into the relationship, so she would watch us fuck.

I was learning to do different things. She's the first one that used a dildo in my ass. Wow. She opened me up to this. So there was a lot of things that she taught me, but she was definitely not somebody I was going to take home to my mom. Isn't that sad? Isn't that sad? Poor Wendy.

Like, here she is. Like, guys really want all of that, but for some reason you can't take that. at home. Why not? Wasn't she nice? Yeah, she was. It was a problem. She was pretty raunchy sometimes and she had no no coot. She had no barrier.

She would tell you exactly how she felt. Yeah, she was like a dude. Yeah. I come from a real big family. It's a religious family that wouldn't appreciate that type of lifestyle. I wouldn't appreciate my lifestyle right now either. Yeah, no. I totally get it. Listen, I know that Jennifer had said

that the reason why she didn't think you guys hooked up is that at the end of the day your families wouldn't accept it i'm like who cares i don't know because i was never one to give a shit but i know that most people don't roll like me like they do actually care what their family i was so innocent growing i was so innocent growing up i didn't know what the hell i was doing anyway you know and i just me and her banging me and jennifer banging was i thought that was great but i again i overseas i'd meet girls and you go to some of these places and you you and i'll just say i of the philippines you could get two girls for $40 for a night.

Right. So I was learning that way, too. So, but, you know, beating her. Wendy, she definitely taught me some things. Started getting my kinks going. Started getting me into a little bit. She liked sex rough. So that was a, you know, first time I was fucking her, she slapped me across the face.

I was like, what the fuck did I do? I didn't know, and that was her turn on, you know? Oh, my God. Was she taking testosterone? Yeah, I don't know. She was, she was a bodybuilder, so she probably was. I bet you she was. Her clip wasn't bigger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She liked it rough. Uh-huh. And so move on from her. I met a few more girls in the gym. Kept, you know, just I wasn't ready to settle down. And then I ended up meeting my current wife. And we ended up, someday I really liked.

We were good friends, very vanilla sex. It was, but at that time, I thought, okay, I'm getting older. I need it. Now is the time I better have them. I don't want to be 70 with kids at home. And so I'm just doing, you know, doing what you think was right for the time, not knowing where I was going to be leading to. And so during that time, I started hooking up with Jennifer again.

We would meet up. I'd get back, I go on trips and she would meet me there a couple times a year maybe. It was something we just kept going on. So, you know, I will say this that before we did get married, I knew my, my girlfriend, now wife, she was cheating on me with somebody. I knew it. And it didn't really bother me because, hell, I'm overseas. How do I expect her not to be satisfied?

So it never bothered me that she, and that's weird to say for a lot of people. I hear a lot of people in the lifestyle that, you know, they swap and it's real easy for them. It was for me. It was for me. I just, because if there was no feelings for her and she kept coming back to me, I was fine. Let me ask you this. If you're, you know, in another country, how did you wind up finding out that she was cheating on you? I came back home on leave one time and I went through her phone and I saw it and I was like I actually knew who the guy was.

And I wasn't worried about it. You know, she was enjoying what she was doing. Fine. But that broke off, you know, after time went on, that kind of broke off and I never approached her about that one. But in the like 2014-2015 timeframe, she was doing it again with somebody that, and again, it didn't bother me. but because I was doing what I was doing. So how can I be pissed off at her for doing something I'm doing? That's kind of the way I was looking at it.

But I was still in the gym a lot, and I met another girl in the gym that got me into BDSM. And this girl's name Anna, and she was married at the time, and her husband was a real vanilla guy. And we just started talking one day, and she was brought up BDSM to me. And I'm like, well, I'm interested in it because obviously as things went on, and it just, that kink for me, it took a whole other level. It was like overnight, the switch hit for me. And with her, she was wanting to get it done, but since she was married, there was not going to be any sex involved.

So it was just her being tied up and even with her clothes on, using a vibrator on her, slapping her, spanking her. She had, at one point in time, she had a fantasy of wanting to be raped, like a rape fantasy. And I've heard that out there quite a few times now. But anyway, she would let me do anything I want. wanted to her. And we started going to munches together. We started, and this is all behind my wife's back. And we would do things that would, it just really got exciting. We were taking it to a whole not level, but it was never sex. And then she started talking about wanting to what I'm interested in pegging or not. And I was like, yeah, definitely. I've read a lot about it. And I mean, even today, the orgasms I have from being pegged are so they're out of this world don't you wish you could just give a little

PSA to some guys out there that are so like you know there's such a stigma attached to it and they're so closed off like don't they aren't they missing something I feel like they are because I know what that feels like right because I have anal sex like you're here to say as a guy a straight guy right like it feels fucking good yep yeah it does it's I got to a point now where I start squirting and the orgasms continue. And I've had 11 and 12 orgasms. Yeah, it's not your typical penal orgasm. You're not coming out like you do when you're jacking off or anything.

But the orgasms you get from the prostate, you can continue to have multiple orgasms. And I never thought that was true for a guy. Because, you know, when the guy comes, most guys don't get to, unless they're young, they don't start right back up. So these orgasms are, it's just so funny how strong they are. And I grew addicted to it.

So letting Anna do. the pegging and the first orgasm from somebody slamming their hips into my ass with a dildo. It was, I don't know, I've almost blacked out. I've never had a shaking orgasm like that before. Wow. So it was super strong. And that went on for a while and then she ended up getting divorced as we went through that. All the different things we did through our BDSM stuff, I was craving more of it.

And she wanted to get into a serious relationship with me. And there was no way I was going to leave my wife. Not for anybody. That's not why I was doing it. At the time, my wife was still messing around with her little boy toy. And it didn't she, I think at this time, she probably knew I knew, but we never talked about it. Interesting. So she traveled for work.

So it was one of those things that, you know, I didn't really care. And then, but Anna wanted to get into a serious relationship. and that's not where I was going to go. And because I wouldn't, she was like, okay, I'm done with you. And I'm like, fine. See you later, you know. I'm going to tell you. The first person I reached out to was Jennifer.

I approached her after all this stuff about doing a BDS something. So I slowly got her into it. She had, you know, before I was just getting her to swallow. She'd never swallowed before either. And I just trying to get her to do that was the first thing. And the first time was funny, and she's probably going to be pissed off of me. I said this, but she spit it right out. And I was like, well, it didn't work.

But she could give a mean blow job. She could deep throat. She was good at what she did. Right. Did she eventually learn how to swallow and she's good to go with it now? Like a champ. Like a champ. She sucked at shit.

She's a cum dumpster. Now, she loves all of it. She's a good. A cum dumpster? She absolutely. is now she's amazed with it but getting to it the steps getting to it we would practice a little BDSM

and there would be sex involved and before we actually did like a commitment that I'm only going to do BDSM with her. Yeah. You know I was just doing some experimenting on her see how she's go. She took to it faster than I thought she would. She ended up you know we would

DP and 3P would dildos and me she would and she's tied up I had her tied to a bench one time and she had a crying orgasm which came out of nowhere because I forced her not to come for like 10 minutes when she was wanting to when she finally did. She just blew it everywhere. She squirted it all over the place. And I was like, well, winter right there.

And, of course, I had to do the aftercare and take care of her for about an hour until she settled down. But then she was ready to commit at that point. And we had a nice little commitment ceremony with just us. And it was, she was dressed all in black. And I was just all in black. We did her own thing. And, you know, that was the night that said, hey, you're going to be the one for that new BDS and what forever.

I'm not going to, and I told her straight up. I'm not going to stop talking other people. And she knew there was no possibility of us separating from our spouses. She's got to take care of her family and I'm going to take care of mine. You know, maybe 20 years from now, we'll see what happens. But for the time being, it's the way it was going to be. So we did that type of relationship for three years. And we did everything you can imagine.

That's when she became an anal queen and now a size queen. She loves anal. you would not believe and she wants it bigger and better so that you know and I'm I'm I'm seven inches I'm not huge I'm my girth is what she likes but she's looking for bigger which we're going to try to find for eventually but at this point in time we've been doing it for three years and I get a text from her one day she says I want to own your cock and I'm like huh you know it's just kind of what do you mean you want to own my cock she's like I want to control it because you fuck them around behind my back and behind your your wife's back I'm like so she's like I want

control it so i was like thought about it for a while i said i here you go just playing with her you know thinking i didn't know where it was going to go yeah so i gave her ownership and she said now you now that you're doing this you can't fuck unless i tell you to or you want to fuck and that includes your wife and i'm like i don't know about that but i did end up to where i am now where i don't fuck anybody unless she says i can fuck that day or she controls it now and it's just it's where we're at in our relationship. It went from us being a whole, full, hardcore BDSM where she loved, I mean, I left Marks on her ass.

She had to go back home to her husband and she had explained why there was bruises on her ass to now she owns my dick. And at one point in time, she made me wear a cage. And I was like, whatever, I'm not going to do this. Well, I ended up getting into it where, hell, if I'm going to play it, I'm going to play. I'm out of the military by that time. So there was nothing I had to worry about work or anything like that. I wore it and I wore it for about 14 months and she would tell me when to take it off when I can fuck when to play with a dildo with the cage on it just it's into a point in our relationship now that I have given total control of her at this point like she gave me in the BDSM side of it so she's kind of the dom she wants to kick my or beat my ass one more time before I go back to doming her you're both switches but let me ask you this you're in a cage she's got control does your wife see you

that cage? I'm assuming she does. Like, what the fuck does she say? Like, where does that come from? I mean, how does that work? She never saw it. I was very sly. Either I would get home late, or I would go to bed. I would take showers when I had it on when I would make sure she wouldn't. Or there was times, and she's going to hear this, I would take it off so I could get into bed and, you know, because she would roll over sometimes get real close to touch in my dick.

And I'm like, oh, got to move over. And so for this whole time, I just played it out. And it was part of the game. And it really became exciting for me. She would deny me orgasms for a month at a time. And that cage, I'd wake up in the morning. I had come dripping out. You know, you talk to a guy with Jackoff every day.

Yeah. I don't care if I was having sex or not. I was, you know, and to a point where I'm not able to have an orgasm for 30 days, it was crazy. But then, you know, she still let me play with one of the dildos I got, and I would be able to have anal orgasms in that thing. And that's why I learned how to squirt, which, you know, I've seen some videos where hands, free coming. And I never, I didn't, didn't know if you could really happen to me. Well, the first time it happened, I was like, this is fucking phenomenal. Wow. That's interesting. Like, maybe being caged up forces you to try to like figure it out, right? Like, maybe that's the key

figuring it out. Yeah, you know, I would have anal orgasm before, but never scored. But maybe you're right. That's probably what it was, just being denied for so long. And I mean, I didn't normally shoot my comb as far as I was out of that cage. It was funny. I was like, like, you know, gain in some dick strength here. I mean, you're saying you're going a whole month without anything. Like, what is your wife? Was she just at the point where she wasn't interested in having sex to you? Like, how is she being okay with the fact that she's not getting any for a month?

I mean, that's a long time. Yeah, she had her sidepiece. He was there, and I knew when they would go. She would go out and either she'd say she'd go out for dinners or for a meeting. And I knew what she was doing. Again, it didn't bother me. But wait a second. Okay.

No, no, let's John. We need to discuss a little. bit about her side piece, okay? Have you and her ever discussed this side piece? No. You and your wife? She doesn't know what exists. She doesn't know. She knows who she is, but she doesn't know that she's my sidepiece. No, no, no, not this. No, no, not Jennifer, okay? And Jennifer's more than a side piece, okay? You're, you said your, your wife has a side piece, because I'm like, how does she deal with no sex for a month? You're like, she's got her side piece and I don't really care. Have you guys ever discussed the fact that she's got,

this side guy or is this still something that you supposedly don't know about? No, she knows I know. About six months ago. So my wife is very vanilla by about six months ago. She's not very vanilla. I don't know. I don't consider all, you don't know what the fuck she's doing with these other people. Unfortunately, look at, you know what?

If I had Jennifer's husband on this call, you know what he'd say? My wife is very vanilla. Jennifer's doing all of her kinky, crazy things with you. Okay. You know how many times I get people on here that can't bring. the kind of dirty stuff that they bring into their like affairs into their marriages for some reason. Your wife

with that guy, God knows what's fucking going on. She's vanilla with you, but your wife ain't vanilla, okay? I don't buy it. Well, we're at a point now. She doesn't have a side piece. She doesn't have a side piece because they're spooning behind your back and having missionary. Okay, what's she doing with that side piece all this time? She's fulfilling

all of her dirty fantasies because she could only be vanilla with you because you're going and living at all all your dirty fantasies with everybody else. And it's only now that I know, because I talk to Jennifer, that you guys are starting to sort of, like, be more open with each other about your guys non-vanellan-ness. But I don't believe your wife's vanilla. Okay, I'm sorry to say.

Well, from what we do, well, okay, so I was going to say six months ago, this side piece joined in with me and my wife. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, your vanilla wife. You're vanilla wife. Come on. Yeah. They've been probably talking about you in their vanilla hookups for a long time.

Come on. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, just as long as I've known her, I mean, you know, I've tried to introduce her to toys and stuff, and she wasn't really into it. And now she is after that, after the threesome now when Jennifer allows me to have sex with her, I'll use a dildo on her. And she gets her DP that way.

So, but she, you know, for about a month. She didn't want anything to do with him. And then five days ago, I brought him back. We had some alone time. And I said, hey, you want Justin to join us tonight? He came over. So we had another one just five days ago. But how did, okay, slow it down.

Okay, John, you're, like, talking real fast, and you're a great storyteller. I mean, you just go with your fucking stories. But I need some details, okay? Because it sounds a little complicated. There's a lot of players in this story, and I want to get the whole picture, okay? Like, when do you, you, you jump to the place where you're having, like, threesome with your one. wife's side piece. But where is that moment where she cops to it or you find out? Because before

this in the story, it's always been like you kind of know, but you don't really care because you're doing shit too and you don't say anything. Like at what point does this become out in the open? It's probably a year ago. I finally said, hey, I know what's going on. I'm not, I don't care if you're meeting up with him. I don't, you know, we just talked about it. And she was really like, you don't care i'm like no i she's like well you're fucking around on me and i'm like uh you know you haven't seen me i haven't any text because at this point it's only jennifer is the other piece so there's nothing else out there that i am and i haven't i didn't and one day maybe i would admit to her that this was going on she wasn't like conflicted about telling you she wasn't like

oh my god i mean she said she knew the whole time it was it you know it was uh emotional yeah for her more i i think she was a little upset that i wasn't pissed off but you know we worked through it and she's like you you know she always said well you're going to want more girls to come in and everything else and i'm like that's not what the goal is here it was just you have you got your side piece if you want to see them just let me be involved with it from that one and that's when six months ago we she said okay so she doesn't see him by him i don't think she sees him by himself anymore if she does i'm fine with it but what do you think she was going there for to him for do you know i mean we're like you weren't ever curious i mean if you're like home you got

her like why do you think she had that side piece for so long because it sounds like she was it was it the same guy this whole time like you had the same guy yeah yeah well it was her second one that she had i've known it from about four years for sure and again i was still in and out of the country i was deploying i was on trips i was doing things that if she needs the emotional support and i'm not there for six, nine months at a time. I'm not going to hold her against it. Oh, you've been in the military this whole time. I mean, you're not just in the military when you're younger and you get out and go into

the, like, workforce. You were, you've been, you're like in the military for your career. Yeah, I did, I did 20 years. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah. And, you know, so during that time, I had a, and this is kind of a sidetrack. I'm a real part of the story.

But I had a lady tell me one time, an older lady, it says, I know when my husband, and she's probably. 70 and I'm she's like I know you guys in the military I always going out finding a piece on the side don't think we aren't doing it back here and I know they are I was in the military I saw it happen all the time we call them jodys and they you know you leave town there's another guy that steps in for you so as long as when I came back home she was there for me it's all I cared about okay I didn't understand that you're still living in that world and in that world this is a common thing you said they even have a name for it a jody

so your wife was a jody yeah yeah yeah this is why I love doing my show I learned I never heard this before. Well, and when you leave, the person that sleeps with your spouse is the Jody. Oh, the Jody is the guy who's taken over for you. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Okay, not the girl who cheats. I think of Jody as a girl in him.

So the Jody is her side guy, so she had this side piece. Okay, so now how do you get him to come over? Like, how does that conversation go? Like, does she bring it up? Do you bring it up? I brought it up. He was in the gym one day, and I talked to him. pulled him aside. I said, hey, man, I got to talk to you about something. And I told him, I said,

I know what's going on. I said, and it doesn't bother me. He kind of looked like, oh, he's trying to deny, deny, deny. And I'm like, man, just tell me, I know you are. I don't worry about it. And we kind of talked it out. And then I said, man, we need to meet up with her and let's talk about it and see what happens from there. And, you know, I think he was really nervous. I mean, he's a bigger guy than me. So I was not going to try to kick his ass or anything. But I mean, he's a lot bigger than me size-wise. And when it came up to that, the first time everybody was really nervous

and was like, okay, how are we going to do this? And it just flowed. And from there and seeing, and I hear you, the stories these guys saying that have a hot wife, seeing their wives get fucked by another guy, to me, to me it was an immediate turn on. It was awesome to see it and to see the enjoyment in her face

and then her reaching out from my cock and sucking on it at the same time she's getting slammed from behind. To me, I mean, that was probably the fastest I came with her in a long time. So it was pretty exciting. Right, because this is the one you've been with for for really long? Yeah, yep.

And the longest person, my only real relationship other than Jennifer. What about your relationship with Jennifer's husband? Are you guys friendly? Because you know her for so long, because I do know that your, like, friends, like family friends, like your wife knows Jennifer, Jennifer knows your wife.

Do you know her husband? You were into their wedding. Oh, yeah. I know I'm well. And he, you know, and he is not taking the greatest care of himself as he's gotten older. So I don't know how Jennifer approaches it with him. I don't know what, but I am, you know, if I'm visiting them, I talk to them like nothing's going on. I've talked to their kids like nothing's going on. So it's just, it's a, me and Jennifer practiced it for so long that it's easy. Right.

And now, and now what about like, you know, what about giving up? Because it sounds like you've been very all over the place. You've had your pick of women. You never really wanted to settle down. You did to have kids and, you know, sort of satisfied that part of you. But, like, what made you decide to give it all up for Jennifer? Was that just a part of the BDSM kink? Because it sounds like you gave up your whole stable or any chance of really going out and getting any more variety, you know,

and it doesn't seem like you've ever rolled like that before. it became a time it's a pain in the ass to try to meet somebody and yeah it was it was once to be the thing i didn't have me that's where i was that was that was where my focus was i was going to classes i was online i was reading everything i could about i i filled myself with so information about that and all my downtime i'm like okay i want to be an expert at this yeah and so when it comes down the road Jennifer really appreciates what I'm doing. Now, the switch was, I didn't see that coming. And I, you know, the way it started, I was really denying it.

And all of a sudden, and I don't want any, there's no, you know, now, there have been a few girls that I've hooked up with that are people that I know that are one night things here and there, but not since I've asked Jennifer all the time, can I fuck somebody else? And she's like, nope, nope, nope, no. She really fuck your wife. So she's controlling me that way. and then you know there is another situation about two months ago where we had a couple over we had some drinks we ended up swapping that night and that was it wasn't good for my wife didn't enjoy it she didn't enjoy the way it happened and she really didn't enjoy me being with the other lady and she it was so that was a no-go she said that will never happen again well how did that come up and how did that no no so slow it down. Okay, let me just ask some questions. Okay. How did it come up? I mean, you wind up bringing her fuck buddy home and you guys all have a threesome. That happened more than once, correct?

Yeah, about six or seven times now. Six or seven times. And you all enjoy that. Let me ask you this because you thought she's so fucking vanilla. Like when you looked over and saw her fucking that guy, did she seem very vanilla to you still? No, that's the first time I, you know, that's like they said, it turned me on. I was like, okay, maybe I can open something up in her. And she's starting to open up a little bit now. Yeah, I have to tell you that this is a weird thing, John, okay? And I hear it all the time because people are telling me their secrets, you know.

They're not telling their partners. And in a weird way, it seems like it doesn't make sense. But in another way, it really actually does make sense if you think about it. But a lot of times, for some reason, people aren't that comfortable really letting the person who's the closest to them. know all their dirty, kinky secrets. It's much easier for them to go and find somebody else that isn't a part of like their real world and every other thing and just go live out all their dirty fantasies there. Do you know what I mean? So I just, and it doesn't make sense, right?

Because you would think, oh, your wife would be the most comfortable with you. Jennifer should be the most comfortable with her husband. You should be the most comfortable with your wife. But nobody is. Look at the four of you. None of you guys were being honest with. with each other, you're all going out and living your freaky shit someplace else, but you're all freaks.

What the fuck? Yeah. I don't believe. I'm fun with that. You know, no, it's great. It just, it's so interesting because I do believe you got a freak there right in front of you this whole time. And she has just been giving it to somebody else.

You've been giving it to somebody else. What I found interesting that Jennifer brought up towards the end of her conversation is that you and your wife really are now getting freaky together. Here you were saying you're married to this vanilla vanilla girl, but now you're having all these threesome with her guy. And now you couple swap. How did that couple swap come about? Like how did that happen?

Did you go online and meet someone? No, they were people we knew, and it hurt the relationship. There was a lot of alcohol involved, and that shouldn't happen. So that was one of those things where, you know, you think it's going to work, and you realize, oh, we hadn't really spoken with them since. So I don't know if it's an embarrassing thing for them. I know my wife said absolutely not again, especially with him. She didn't find him attractive at all.

So it was, I guess that's part of it. Yeah, maybe. So I've heard a lot of your episodes and a lot of these women are starting a hormone therapy. She started it. And it's, I think that may be part of it. Maybe her sex drives is kicking in again. Your wife. She started it?

Yeah, it makes a very big difference. And I'm hoping it does. I'm hoping we, you know, down the road here, I hope I can keep prying that door open. and keep getting some of the other kings in. So, and I've talked to Jennifer about this, and I've talked to my wife about it, the pegging thing. So I've approached my wife about it, and it was no, no, no. And I had her listen to a couple podcasts about it.

So she learned, she thought, oh, you just want a dick. I'm like, it's not about having a dick in my ass. It's about having how the prostate works and how they work on the past. Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's important. I think that's what a lot of women are going to think. It's what guys think. Why a lot of guys won't even go there.

But it's if you're a guy and you like it, the now the next problem is you're going to have to deal with your wife's stigma surrounding it you know what I mean it's like yeah so some few months back she agreed to maybe try it well we got the harness and got a dildo and we haven't gone any farther um and I'm getting it from Jennifer when we meet anyway so you know I'm getting that part of it and I'm doing it myself I take care of myself like that so but when that step happens I think it's going to open the door to another whole other level once we find them cross that. Because when you let that such an intimate thing happen and they see how well it feels

and it's not about sucking a dick or anything, it's about how the orgasm comes from that. And it's, I mean, guys out there, if you ain't doing it, you better try it because you're missing, you're missing one of the greatest experiences out there. Yeah, I really love this part of your story because I do think you might convert some guys. Let me just ask the question that your wife asked you, you know, maybe you would lie to your wife. I don't know, but I know you're not going to lie to me because I don't know who the fuck you are.

Like, is there any part of you that would ever want a real dick in your ass? Yes. Okay. So, okay. Because the real thing is going to be a little bit different than a build-off. Okay. You know what I mean? So it's not,

this is the reason why wives listening now are like, see, this is why I'm freaked out because you do actually want the guy. So when your wife says, do you want like a dick? and you're saying no, you're lying. Yeah, I am. And if I can get it to go to that step. People are so fine. Well, I mean, you know, being totally honest,

the guy would have to be super fit, super hot, fully shaved. I mean, I cannot stand here on a guy's body. It stinks. Number one. Number two, it's just, you know, when you get it in your mouth from eating pussy, it's like, well, man, just shave your pussy. Let's go. I can clean.

I can eat it better. So, but I just, you know, it would be very specific. And it's not that I want to kiss the guy or I don't want to do any. I just, you know, if I can get my wife the pegging, that would probably be all I need at that point. But now I keep having Jennifer do it too. And hopefully I can get Jennifer and my wife together. I think that's kind of what she's wanting. I don't know how well I can handle that.

That's crossing a bridge that, I don't know, putting those two together like that. I don't know where that would lead. I mean, that could be a, that could either be really healthy or it could be a fucking disaster like you wouldn't believe. So I don't know. Oh, my God, do it. And then come back on the show, report back. Wait a second. Now, when your wife does, I mean, listen, you know, you got your wife to finally cop to the fact that she had been cheating on you, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like, your wife believes you have something else going on the side. She's always asked you, you always lie. Why not come clean? It's, I don't know. I mean, I don't want to. I've got to at some point. point, I guess, and maybe that again, if I do. And the other night, we were talking about this very subject, and I denied it again,

and it's just, you know, I don't know. Maybe if, if she, I don't think she's into women, but you never know. I mean, fuck, I didn't, she brought you, like you said, she may be a total kinkster on the side and she just doesn't show it to me. You are? Does she know about your cages and all that shit? No, you did never reveal it to her either. How do you know what she's keeping from you?

I mean, come on. You just, if you, like, seriously, think about it. But so what came up the other night? Her saying, I know you're cheating on me? No, she's like the reason why she asked that ultimate question that women always ask. Do you want another girl in the relationship with us? And I'm like, no, I don't. Because I don't at this point.

Maybe she does. At this point. Well, she got, maybe she does. I got to. Maybe that's her way of telling you she wants to go down on a girl. And she wants you to say, why is she keep asking you, you want to bring another woman in? She's not accusing you of cheating. She's saying, hey, do you, like, and I get where, why you're thinking it's like a trap,

but it might not be. It might be her way of introducing the fact that she wants to have a hookup with a woman now that you've hooked up with a man. And she wants you, though, to be the one to say, okay, so she doesn't look like she's by. Maybe she can't handle that. Like, maybe that freaks her out about herself. You know what I mean? Like, how do you know she's not putting it out there for that reason? reason. I don't. And you're bringing a point across that I might have to approach here pretty

quick. Not approach her. The next time she says, do you want a girl to come in? Be like, listen, if you want a girl to come in and do a threesome with a girl like we do with your guy, I'd be down. But it would only be with you. Like, would you be interested in being with a girl? Like, that would be hot? Like, you want to try that? I'll be down with you. Well, why not? Have that conversation with her. Hey, you can edit this part out. Are you a therapist?

Because you sure sound like one. I don't want to edit that out. Why would I edit that out? I always talk about how I give unprofessional advice, but I wanted to be a therapist. But when I found out that, like, you're not allowed to tell people what to do and give them your opinion, I'm like, fuck that.

I like to actually tell people what I think they should do and what I think. You're not allowed to do that as a therapist. You're just going to listen. No, but I like analyzing things. the more of your episodes I've listened to, you do sound like a therapist sometimes. And sometimes you listen because there's some really great stories out there. They're all great. Some of these people live that.

I'm really listening every time. Okay, listen, I'm really listening all the time. I have a like, this is my God-given talent, okay, is actually listen to people. I have 665 conversations with total strangers and not one of them. I like, you know, washing dishes while I'm doing them. every single one of them. I am sitting there listening, fascinated by the conversation. I find these kinds of things interesting.

I like to dig deep. It's just this is what I'm into. But I like the layers and I do like the psychology. I'm like a detective. I like to find out more than what you're presenting on the surface. So that's what. And I do like to help people. So that's a therapist in me.

I mean, you know, you're going to do whatever the fuck you want. I'm not, you know, you're not calling me for every once a week for the rest of your life. I'm just, this is my time to talk to you, but I'm going to analyze shit. Okay, that's just like what I like to do. Well, you're good at it. It's funny because you said layers. There are layers on everybody's little kink. Everybody, you know, you look, walking down the street and you see somebody.

I look at them, I'm like, wonder what they're into. Of course. Because of my background. You know, I'm like, okay, that person is like me or what are they really, what's their secret desires? And, you know, you're right, talking about my wife. She's probably got secret desires that I haven't figured out after the long time that we've been together. I don't know. She's changed now if the hormone therapy started.

Not only that, yeah, I had a girl. I've had two women on that want to have gangbangs, okay? And I'll tell you in a second about my hormone journey. And I'm going to do a whole episode on it because I've tried all different kinds of hormones, patches, creams, pellets, and now injections. So I know how they work. But what I was going to say is, like, listen, like, you know, this is the perfect example of where you just don't know what your wife's saying because you love pegging, right?

And you love that. And then your wife says, oh, but does that mean you want to go? you're like, no, right? You're lying. You just admit it to me that you would. Right. So how do you know when she's saying, oh, you want a girl that that doesn't mean that's her secret desire? You know what I mean? Your secret, there is a secret desire to be with a guy underneath your pegging fantasy. Maybe there's a secret desire for her to be under a girl in her accusing you of wanting to bring a woman in. I just think there's so much like kind of dishonesty. And I think you're creeping towards, which is actually good, finally. You guys are being more honest with each other. You're the last one standing, though. You're

wife is more honest than you because she copped to her guy, okay, and he's been over. I mean, you know, why you keep your stuff hidden or don't allow for your wife to be more a part of your kinky world? I don't get. I think it's good that you're headed in that direction. I was nervous for Jennifer, actually, when she told me. I didn't get your vibe. Talking to you, I see your vibe. It's a lot, like a lot different.

so it makes more sense now. But when she started to tell me that you were really starting to do like all the things that you did with her with your wife, I started to worry for her because I'm like, oh, what's going to happen if he's getting all these needs met from his wife? Maybe he won't need you anymore. Maybe this was compartmentalized. But now after talking to you for an hour, I feel like, you know, there's never going to be one person, right?

So it doesn't matter if you're doing all this with your wife. if you still have time for Jennifer and you're going to want that and maybe a guy and all that kind of good stuff, you know, so I'm not worried for Jennifer anymore. But how close is she with Jennifer? Like how freaked out would she be that if it's a girl that she knows right in front of her face all this time? Like that could be really bad. Yeah, and that's one of the hesitations I had about it since, you know, she's known her for a while. And it's how's that going to feel?

And how are the relationships between the families, you know, with the religious background? Because we're not holding that side of it. I mean, I'm not as hardcore as the rest of the family is, and I don't want to get ostracized by the family. No, no, no, but you're not going to tell your family about your sex life. I mean, this is just going to be a sex thing, right? I mean, it's like you're having threesomes or foursums or gangbangs or even missionary-style sex.

You don't go home and tell your families anyway. So what does your family have to do with that? It's just that fear, you know, once, and it's coming. As we get older, it'll probably be nothing that's going to have to be there for me. it'll eat itself away. I just tell you the childhood that I was brought up in, it was, you know, this is the only thing you're doing. It's this way.

You're only going to do it our way. It's the way the church wants you to do it. Yeah, but you haven't listened to any of those rules. You're getting fucked in the ass. You're cheating. You're going against the Bible every fucking day, okay? So give you. Oh, my gosh, you're so ridiculous.

You think you're actually a religious person abiding by the rules that were shoved down your throat when you were younger? No, you didn't. buy into any of them look at your double life that you're leading I mean come on John it's ridiculous you're not you're not fault I mean what the fuck what does it matter

it doesn't mean that you're not religion like you get up your own kind of religion but it's not the religion that was taught to you you're going against everything that was taught to you thou shall not cheat I think I was teaching my son that the Bible tells you that gay people go to hell we were laughing hysterically it was a dumbest thing I've ever heard but that's what they teach you let's me come on you're shoving things in your ass

You want to fuck a guy? I mean, you're not really going by the books, okay, anymore. So forget about it. Well, I'm trying to go by my book now. I'm trying to get to that direction. You know, give me time. I'll be there. Maybe down the road.

I'll come back. Everybody fucking knows, and there's, you know, mass orgies and out. The lifestyle. You know, I listen to your stories that you have in some of these lifestyles. I'm like, you know, that is fucking amazing that people are actually doing that. They're actually living what they waited. They waited their whole life. or they were in relationships that they couldn't be that way they get out of it and they

end up doing what they want to and that's where I want to get to it's just how fast am I going to get there well listen I mean listen to your whole story maybe you need to hear it from the third person I mean it's not as if you are living a vanilla lifestyle with a woman who hasn't fucked you in 10 years your wife uh who has a you know you've been cheating on all this time it finally went on hormones and she's like having threesome with you with you with other men. I mean, you're complaining. I mean, I feel like you've made giant leaps in a direction that you probably never thought you would be in. I mean, come on. No, absolutely not. I never thought I'd be here. I never thought that would happen. And, you know, that's kind of why I wanted to come on

and tell you this. So, you know, Jennifer was the one that brought it up. And she's like, because I got her listening to your podcast. And I think we're both addicted to it. And it just, it opened up, it's shedding light on what really people want. And if you can, if what you're doing, helps me get to where I'm at, you know, it's amazing. And you're, you are. Now, if I can continue to have the things that I have, and I can merge them together and there's not a problem, that's all I'm worried about is, okay, if I merge these two ladies together, where's the problem going to be? And, you know. Well, the problem is, is that Jennifer, like, listen, you can never go to your girl and be like, oh, yeah, by the way, the girl I would bang in all this time is Jennifer. I mean,

you'd have to lie and be like, let, you know, somehow get, find out if your girl's into another girl. and when you got to that place and that was a good thing, you'd have to say like, hey, maybe we should ask Jennifer because I've known her. I don't know. Like she's kind of hot. I don't know. But I mean, you can't. Your wife's not going to be cool with finding out that this person that has been over for Thanksgiving.

You know, that that's the girl that you've been with. I don't think so. Yeah, probably not. That's probably not the way to go. But like you said, I'm going to, next time she says it, I'll approach it that way, and I'll tell you about it. I'll call your confessions line and tell you exactly what happened. No, when she brings up the girl thing, just say, like, I would do it if that's what you were into.

You know, that's it, like, and see if that's what she wants. Does she enjoy the threesomes with the guy? Yes, yes, she does. You know, it's, and to see her get that, you know, she used to not be escorted, and she's started becoming a squatter during these this she also never used to swallow and now she's swallowing so all these little things are starting to get to where I want them to be and hopefully that's what she's wanted and she didn't want to be I don't know if you know her I know what her background was and she was brought up in a family that it's not supposed to be like this so who

cares getting her to my father was a priest okay so doesn't fucking matter sometimes unfortunately like a lot of people like when I was going to have my son they would be like oh like you're going to tell your son what you do it's like yeah the worst thing i'm going to do to my son is make him the most uncinky as dirty as unperverted person around because sex is not going to be a fucking issue in my house i could care less about it we are i'm going to be open it's going to be like no big deal i am going to ruin all his fun you know who has fun the people that grow up in the households like you guys did where religion is shoved down your throat and so then everything becomes really naughty and dirty and you're like fucking scratching that itch all the time and

having like the kinkiest, dirtiest, most perverted sex. I've been there because it's because what you resist persists. So my son's just going to be normal. He's not going to have any fun. I'm ruining him by being open. So, I mean, come on. The people that had those really religious backgrounds sometimes are the most corrupt when it comes to sex because of the very nature of doing that.

You think that you're going to teach your kids to be against sex and you're against it. You know what you're going to do? You're going to make your kid act out sexually so hardcore. Okay? You go the opposite direction. He'd just be fucking open. Nobody gives a fuck about it, okay? The most unsexual friend I had was the guy who grew up in a family where his family,

it was like a, you know, the grandfather, the great-grandfather, the father, they all owned adult video stores on 42nd Street. This wasn't like, you know, this was their business, their family business that the grandfather, great-grandfather started, you know, in the 1900s. They dealt in porn. And he was the most unsexual person, faithful. Why? Because he grew up with it.

It was no big deal. Why was I going to a store and buying a million toys and doing all kinds of crazy? crazy sexual things because I grew up in a family where it was very religious and sex was wrong and bad so all I wanted to do is go out and fuck okay so you know you're all dirty freaks because of your backgrounds so go go find those people those are the people your wife I'm telling you she's a freak okay she's been cheating on you this whole time she's no vanilla okay you're really well good good for her she has you told me she was you told me she's been cheating on you this whole time. No, no, that she's a freak. I'm hoping I'm getting her to open up that. You know,

there are just the little steps we made. I mean, I'm seeing it more and more. So you're right. If I, maybe I just take a bigger step next time and say, like you said, is that something you want? You know, it's definitely, I have to use it. I mean, again, we've moved this far. It's not stopped and you don't want to keep something and stop something that's in motion. You want to keep it moving. So I'll continue to move forward with it. All right, but let's get back to Jennifer last 10 minutes. Now, how does it work now with her controlling you when you're having these like threesomes and shit? Like, why would you want to be controlled by her if you could now be having all this kind of fun or are you not controlled by her anymore?

It doesn't make sense. I'm because I'm still controlled by her, not by cage or anything. And, you know, we've got this next session coming up that I've got a few things I'm going to get fucking beat for. My balls are going to be crushed and shit. She's going to beat the hell out of me. so for for not obeying her and that's part of the game right oh see see how sick you fucking religious people are look at how fucking sick you are oh my god

the dirtiest of them all you're going to get your balls crushed because she's controlling you but you're fucking anyway then you got to tell her and then you're punished oh my guess well she makes me ask if i want to have sex you make me ask so and you know right now for the month of july she said every morning you're going to send me a dick pick. I'm like, okay. If that's, she's like, I want, I want a different, something different. She's bought me a couple of cock rings.

She's, I've got some different rings that I wear. She wants to see them a different, you know, that right now, because we're not together, she wants to see my dick, and that's the way she makes me do it. That's her way of controlling me what to do. And I kind of get off on her telling me what to do. You know, I would one day, you know, if I could get both of them to dom me, how fun would that be, you know. And Jennifer, I know, wait, Jennifer, I know.

likes now to be told the stories about your wife, right? Aren't you sharing that stuff with her? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. She's so, she wants to hear every detail of it. Every time we do it, she's like, tell me the details, and she's getting off on it. You know, we're at a point looking for another guy for her so we can't have a threesome for her. Yeah.

I've told her, I said, she needs to find her, you know, close to her. She needs to get her some, a boy toy or a guy on the side. Yeah, she's looking. She's looking. That's what she told me. Yeah, she is. And, you know, there's down the road, I mean, she's just before I got on with you, she's like, what are you going to say?

I'm saying, well, I'm going to tell her you're a size queen now that I got to get somebody bigger. You want a big cock in your ass. And she was the LOL that she sent me in. She's like, it's true. That's what she wants, you know. And I'm, you know, I'm glad it opened up for her a little bit, too. She's wanting to experience things. You know, life is short.

And as you lose people that are close to you, you start realizing, why the fuck did I do all this shit? And now I'm still afraid myself to make the steps, even though I'm saying, this is all great, it's all fun. I have to grab my own balls and pull myself forward to do the things I want to do. I'm glad I'm able to help her do it too. Yeah. You know, she's enjoying sex a lot more than she ever did before. I mean, she became a squatter. She wants to DP.

She wants to have in her pussy and her asses. same time. She wants three pieces. She wants to have three Dicks at once. And she's telling me that, she's like, and you're going to watch. I'm like, how fucking hot that goes? I'm going to enjoy that, you know, watching her get fucking plowed by three guys. It's just Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

So I just, you know, she did something that never, I never would have thought. And she went and got her nipples pierced. And I was like, oh my God, that's so not her. And Jennifer. You know, that, yeah, Jennifer did. And I was just like she's becoming a little kinkster.

the more she took control of me, the dirtier she started talking to me, like I've never heard it before, that she is becoming a severe kinky queen, I guess. I mean, she is opening up to things that I, you know, she's learned how to deep throat all the way down. And I was like, holy fuck, that's amazing, you know, that she was able to do it before, but not all the way. And now she can take all seven inches in my dick in her mouth. And I'm like, that's a fucking amazing thing to do. So it's a fun time right now for me. I'm enjoying time with her.

I'm enjoying that she's helping me with my wife. Basically, that's what she's doing because she's telling me what to do. So, you know, and when I can get my wife to finally peg me, that's going to be another milestone. I think that's going to be something that will help me grow on to something else. And then the fact that Jennifer knows how to do it so well, too. I mean, it's, she, the last time she fucking, I was raped. She fucked me so hard. It was, I haven't ever been fucked that hard.

Right. Pugging that was the last time we were together. And she's getting the, because it's an art to fuck, you know. A lot of guys can only go three or four minutes before they get tired. And it's an, it takes to go for a long period of time and not take a break. She was able to do it. And I had multiple orgasms. and just, you know, an amazing experience.

And she's done that for me. Yeah, no, I mean, I know that, I know that other women have said, I've never used a straw bomb, but they've said it's like not really that easy because you don't feel it. You know what I mean? Like, that thing isn't attached to your body. So it is hard to figure out how to do it and to, you know, to do it good, I think takes a little practice.

I do have picks of you guys. Okay, listen, this is a great fucking episode. I love that I aired her first. she's like a teaser okay to this whole thing and then in comes john just blowing out all the details oh my god it's such a good it's gonna be a really good two episodes okay um she sent me some naughty picks well no they're like they're good picks of both of you i have picks of like your bodies you're in great shape you're still a gym guy right you look your body look good in the picks she sent me i'm gonna post your guys picks over on my pageant those are r rated you and uh jennifer will have

access to my discord channel where you could go because first she sent me like her tits was just out and about i'm like i can't really post that on my patreon but that kind of stuff you could go on to my discord people get x-rated on there it's a whole community there's over 800 people now maybe 900 by the time you go on uh you guys could go in there you get free access because you called into my show and then you guys could go in and say hey i'm john and you know to post whatever you want and do whatever you want over there as well i will send you a link to that thank you so much for calling in and sharing this uh story with it's got a lot of players it's very interesting and you did talk fast but i loved it it was fun it was funny too i appreciate

it you know thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk to you again you know i know it's the way it started you giving me that chance i again it feels good and you helped a lot on some things so all right awesome yeah wait till you hear your story back you'll be like you're not doing so bad and you're not vanilla honey there is your wife anyway john thanks so much thank you so much for calling in and so say buy it and I'll tell you when your episode's going to air. Thanks John. Thanks so much for calling in. All right. Thanks, Kathy. Bye bye. Bye. So listen, I'm airing Jennifer's this Sunday and this Monday and yours next Wednesday. Okay. So stay tuned. And if you have any picks, other picks you want to send in regular ones of you, that's fine. I already have them. But then you'll

be able to go into my Discord and that's what you should do. That's fun to do. And you could go in and there's a lot of naked picks of other people in there too. But you'll get free access. But people pay for that. Okay. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them.

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