Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 672 - Joe is Bisexual and has a Don’t Ask Don't Tell Policy with his Wife

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Joe is bisexual and has a don’t ask, dont’t tell policy with his wife. When did he realize he was bisexual? How did his wife find out? And, how did she react at first? Tune in to hear all the details including how he knew at a very young age that he was attracted to both men and women, how and why he wasn’t confused about his sexuality, his first sexual experience with a guy and what went down, the types of guys he digs and why, what’s most important to him when he’s online looking for hook ups, how guys do lead with dick pics on their profile and why size isn’t that important to him, the apps he used to find guys, how he met his wife and how she found out by accident that he was bisexual, how she felt about it, how she got past it and how and why she doesn’t join in, his experiences with a couple trans men and what exactly went down, how and why he never tells his wife about any of his experiences, how many guys he hooks up with monthly, why he prefers other married men, the married guy he hooked up with for years, how they met and what they would do together, how gay men respond to the fact that he’s bisexual, why the stigma for guy on guy action still exists, the surprise threesome he had recently with guy he met on AFF and exactly what went down plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of JOE plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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His wife knows, which is interesting. They have a don't ask, don't tell situation going down. And he's had his fair share of guys. He's always known he's by. He talks about when he first kind of realized it. He talks about his first bisexual experience or his first guy on guy hookup. He does talk about how his wife found out and how they got to the point where they decided to have a don't ask, don't tell. He gives a lot of stories of where he meets guys, where they hook up, what he's into, whether he's a top or a bottom, what he looks for.

It's kind of interesting what is his preference, but he's down for a lot. He typically likes other married guys that we all know from listening to my show that there's a lot of married guys out there. you're probably one of them listening to this episode. Who's, you know, sucking a dick every now and then behind your wife's back, okay? This is what the guys he typically hooks up with. He's had some long-term ones he talks about. He's had a couple female-to-male trans men that he's hooked up with. He talks about those experience.

He recently met a guy in adult friend finders. He's on there and he had a surprise threesome. He talks about why it was a surprise, and he talks about a surprise. and he talks about exactly what went down. And he also talks about how he stays safe, blah, blah, blah, and exactly what went down. So you're going to hear all those details. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Joe.

Hi, Joe. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing fantastic. How about yourself, Kathy? I'm good. So listen, Joe, you were one of those guys that doesn't really cop to the fact that every now and then you suck a dick.

Right? I mean, is this like... Sort of. Well, okay. Well, what do you mean? Sort of. You're like a bisexual guy. Are you out and proud?

Or is this on the DL? Well, it's kind of hard to kind of say. I mean, I don't particularly... I don't particularly broadcast it. I mean, I fully own my bisexuality. It's not like you're married and you're doing this on the side, is what I'm saying. You're not like one of those guys. Well, I am, but...

I am, but she. knows. She's not as liberated that way. Okay, well, I like that. So this is a little different of a story. So you're a bisexual guy. Your wife knows she doesn't take part in it, but does she give you like a free pass? Do you have a free pass to hook up with guys whenever you want?

Yeah, I mean, basically, as long as I'm not like, I guess broadcast, I guess she just wants me to be kind of discreet about it. She doesn't want to know about it. She's not really it's not her thing, but you know, she's very accepting and understanding about it. So you do have then a free pass that if you want to hook up with a guy, you can, correct?

She just was like, don't ask, don't tell kind of thing. Wow. Okay, so let's go back, Joe. We'll get to the point where you tell your wife and everything, but let's go back. Like, when did you realize that you were by? And let me just make sure you're using bisexual in the proper term. Like bisexual, to me, I learned, means that you would date a man or a woman. Have you ever dated a guy?

Is that what bisexual means to you? No, it's funny. I've heard this one you're showing like a few times. Some guys are just like, oh, no, I'm not gay or whatever. I actually ran through experience like that, what I'm talking about like last week. But, I mean, I'm pretty much known as far back as I can remember, but no, I've never dated anybody.

I don't see myself being romantically involved with another guy, but I'm, of course, attracted to men. But yeah, that's probably as far as it go. Right. So I think that's not bisexual. I used to think that was bisexual, but supposedly someone to know bisexual is you would date a woman or a man when you're just into fucking someone of the main sense,

like it's heteroflexible or something like that. I don't know. I get confused. People corrected me. I used to think bisexual was like just when you're sexually, when it comes to sex. And it kind of makes sense, right? Bisexual.

It's like sex is in that word. That when it comes down to sex. you could roll with either a guy or a girl, right? When did you figure out that you were into guys? Like, I mean, really as far as I can remember, I mean, I guess when you're younger, you're in the showers, that you're sneaking peaks and all that type of thing. But I mean, I think pretty much everybody kind of does that, just to kind of compare, okay, where am I?

Do I have the biggest dick in the room, that sort of thing? but I've always felt like an attraction towards the guys. And to pinpoint it, I mean, like I said, just far back as I can remember, I've always felt attraction pretty much both ways. Now, did that confuse you? Were you freaked out about it? Did you wonder, am I gay at some point? No, because, I mean, like I do, I guess the best way to say I was equal opportunities.

No, did I ever act on it? Like, when I was younger, no. I was a little bit older before my first guy to guy experience but no I mean it didn't really bother me I never felt confused about it I just

I guess that's just part of my personality I'm so just laid back and go with the flow so I mean I was just gay it is what it is but you never thought you were gay that's what I'm saying I mean I don't know did you ever wonder do I actually feel romantic to guys I mean because you wanted to hook up with them

I don't know I that's what I was really curious about did you ever think what ever ponder whether you would date a guy? I mean, I'm never going to say no. I mean, I think things obviously happen for a reason. I guess there's been a couple situations where, like, oh, maybe I could probably maybe do a relationship with this guy, but not anything that has gone any further than like a conversation, I guess.

Right, right. Okay, so there was no confusion. You're pretty easygoing. You're like, I like guys, but it was obvious to you that you liked women to. Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm very oral. If it's me munching on a pussy or going down on a guy, it's all fun for me. Right, right, right.

Either or. So you eventually hook up with girls and stuff, but you said you later on, you started hooking up with guys. When did that happen? And what was that first experience like? With a guy or a girl. A guy. Sorry, yeah, a guy.

We all, we don't care about the girl. Let's talk about the guys. Well, I care about them. Okay. All right. How old are you when you fucked your first girl? My first experience with a girl, I think I was around 13 or 14. Okay.

It was by, yeah, freshman year in high school. Okay, cool. I think that, okay. So now, let's get to what I want to know is one was the first guy. I want to say my mid, probably 20s. No, actually, it was a problem. Yeah, probably like 23, 24, somewhere around there. Okay, so how did you meet the guy?

What, like, walk me through that whole first experience and what went down? Oh, geez, it was so long ago. How old are you now? I'm 41, I think. Come on. I can remember back, and I'm older than you. Give me a break. There's no way you don't remember that first hookup with a guy, okay?

Just like we all remember our first hookup with a... Look, you had no problem telling me that you fuck someone in ninth grade. But now when we get to the guy, you're like, I don't know. And it's five years later. Come on. Well, I'm kind of blur the two. I'm pretty sure. So, yeah, the first guy, I think, I bet them.

Probably Craigslist. Okay. I think that was big back then. Yeah. I think I'm ready to kind of move forward. So, you know, reach out to a couple guys on Craigslist and found one that I felt we were kind of compatible with and it's pretty safe. So I had them come over and I was kind of nervous and shit.

But we started going through a little foreplay. And then I asked if I had a condom. I said, yeah. And I topped them. Start fucking. So you knew you, did you know you were top or are you a bottom two? Are you a switch? How do you label yourself that way?

I label myself versatile top. I tend to top more. I guess there's just more bottoms out there. And I thoroughly enjoy that. But if there's a guy who kind of puts it out there that he wants the top, I absolutely have no problems with that. Right. So you knew that you liked anal play too?

Were you curious about that or into that before you started looking up with guys? Was that a part of your thing? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Right, right. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

I mean, I think it's always funny what guys shove in their ass before they really could have a guy shove a dick in their ass. I think I mentioned this on another episode where this guy. And he wound up being like an army guy, but before he got into the army, he was shoving G.I. Joe dolls up his ass. Oh, no. I'd be scared to get that stuck. I know. I know. There was some news story recently that was like a girl put something.

Oh, it was like a fish up her ass and it got stuck like a fish, like a live fish but frozen. I don't know. It was really fucking gross. So it was always like funny to me what guys use when they're young and at home and they can't really find a dick around. So you find stuff, I don't know. So you knew, though, I'm not going to ask you that question though. You knew, though, that you were into anal stuff. That was your first experience. You fucked that guy. And how was it? I was really good. It was, I mean, when I was done, he left.

I was like, man, I wish he wouldn't stay a little bit longer. Could have gone again? I really enjoyed it. Right, right. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah. When did the two guy experience? come into place. You said there was one time

where it was two guys, a bunch of people. Where did that happen? The most recent one? I don't know. I don't know. Well, eventually, I guess we'll get to the places where you're with all these people. But you mentioned something

when you were about to say, you're like, oh, there was a time where I kissed two guys, but that's for another time. Is that recently? Oh, that was actually before I actually had ever been with a guy.

I was out with a whole bunch of people and we were all drunk and I don't even know how it started. Like, I think we somebody saw something on TV or something where a whole bunch of people just started kissing. And we all kind of got the group and started kissing. And like, I have my eyes closed. And then the next thing I know, like, it's just me and these two dudes were like making out. And I was like, okay.

That was interesting. Yeah, that was good for you. So what kind of guys, like when you went looking on Craigslist that first time and stuff, what was it that you were looking for and what kind of guys like turn you on? I prefer, honestly, like, shorter, stocky guys. Redheads, I don't know, something about ginger just drives me insane. Oh, shout out for the ginger's. I'm so happy.

I feel like they don't get a lot of love. I know. I don't know why. But yeah, I'm born into stocky, shorter guys, maybe a little bit older. But, I mean, hey, I'm off for some fun, so I don't really discriminate that much. We just talk, though, about, like, for anyone that hasn't been with a jingerner, ginger, I don't think that they know how bright orange the hair down there is. Do you know what I'm saying?

Like, I was with a guy who had red hair. He was like this big drummer, famous drummer guy. And like, I have to say, I couldn't believe the color of his hair down there, like how bright orange it was like a fucking clown. Not the same as the hair on the head. It was way more brighter orange, like the pubic hair, right? that always the case? No, not at all.

Oh, interesting. I mean, yeah, I've been one of the guys that are complete, like, it looks like a carrot. Yeah, that's what I mean, like a clown. I was like, what the fuck is this? It didn't match, you know what I mean? Yeah, and then somewhere like more of the verge of a darker, like, red, almost like brunette. I mean, it just kind of varies.

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and you have to find them visually appealing in whatever way, right? I mean, when guys are looking for guys, let me ask you this. Is it more about the dick pick or the face pick? Like for women, we want to see the face, but then maybe show us the dick. You know, but do guys lead with the dick pick and then you kind of look at the face? Like, how does it work in the guy-on-guy action world?

I mean, for me, honestly, out from the deck now, more important to the face. That's what I would think of it. Listen, I would be shocked if it was the other way around. I mean, that's what I would assume. You lead with the dick pick, right? I mean, I don't like, to me, honestly, I don't like somebody that's hung like a horse. I don't want anything to do with it.

No, thank you. I mean, just average anywhere between, I don't know, six, six and a half, seven, fine. I mean, even, I've been with guys that are but shorter than that. To me, it's just let's just get naked and have that and have some fun. So that's not like the hugest thing about for me. That the size doesn't really make a difference. Right. But you do want to see like that.

You do want to dick pick though. But you're in Craigslist looking for guys. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, usually that's any of these sites. That's what everybody leads with. I'm guilty of it too. I'll just send you send it and either you get response or you don't. But yeah, as far as sides go length is in the huge thing.

But if it's like real fat and gursy, I'm like I want to all. I'm all over that. That's like girls. I think that you're like a girl. Like, we like the girth. I prefer girth over lang. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And what about you?

Like, are you well hung or average or what's your deal? I mean, I would say I'm average. Some of the guys, I've seen some guys that are bigger than me. I've seen some guys that are thicker than me. I've seen some guys that are smaller than me. But overall, I think I would say, like, around average, maybe on the verge of above average. I guess it just kind of depends. Right.

Okay, so now, did you hook up with a lot of guys on Craigslist? I mean, do you eventually go to, like, bathhouses and all that kind of stuff? Do you get really down and dirty later on? Oh, no. That's a little bit. Meeting up with people on the mind is risky enough, but bathhouses, that's a little bit outside of my comfort zone. I mean, obviously, Craigslist is no more.

There are other types of apps that you can find. I've actually, with entry to AFF through your show. Thank you, Kathy. Oh, adult friend finders? Yeah. So you just stick to the apps, right? I mean, have there been... So when do you eventually meet your wife and how do you wind up telling her that you're into dudes?

I mean, did you always tell all your girls that you're into dudes? Or was your wife the first one you told? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it was kind of one of those things where... So I never, like, actually came out and told, like, anybody. Like any female that I dated, I tell them, oh, I've been in the threesomes with another guy, and then just kind of left it at that.

Didn't really go into any in-depth conversations. My wife, she kind of found some correspondence between myself and somebody else, and that kind of let the cat out the bag. Oh, so, okay, so tell me about that. So you were with your wife and you were seeing guys on the side? Well, I'm trying to think I think I had met with a couple of guys while we were together. and then she found, I think, some emails or something like that. And I mean, neither to say she was pretty or she wasn't very happy.

She has up a few choice words, but we kind of left on the situation and following morning. We talked about it and she looked, this is kind of who you are and I love you for who you are. And if that's what it takes for you to be happy, then by all means. But I've always been like open with her. I was like when we kind of got together I was like hey look if you want another girl I'm all for that I don't have to be involved and she's like yeah

no that's not my thing and I respect that I haven't brought it up or she hasn't brought it up so that's kind of like where we are so but I will say I wish that I was like you said I hear these stories all the time on your show

and I wish like I was a little bit more open because you never know it I think there's like people out there that are into that thing. You mean women? Maybe that would be something that we... Yeah. Oh, like you...

There's a part of you that wishes that you did have a partner that would hook up with you and join and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I would be totally open with it if she was open with it now. But I think she more equates

like sex to like... It's like a love and emotional thing. She can't have non-emotional sex. Whereas I, I mean, I just... And I think that's... typical guys and women, guys could differentiate where women sometimes have to have that emotional connection. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think it's more compartmentalize. I think men are better at compartmentalizing things.

But yeah, listen, I could fuck anyone, even if I don't like them. Like, not the anyone like a guy. But I'm not wired like a guy where it's just like a visual thing. Like, I don't care about the face. And if they have a nice ass, I could fuck them. But I know women that are. And I'm always like, wow, you know, I admire them. Because to me, they're like, why? like dudes, but I don't need an emotional connection to have sex with a guy at all, but there are girls that do. You know, I think everyone's wired a little bit differently, but it's definitely what you're explaining is a girl guy thing. I think there are plenty of guys that are wired that way where they do need to feel a connection to have sex with a women, but most guys aren't

wired that way. And I feel like most girls are, right? It's like the opposite. So your wife could never like unless it was like a guy that she knew really for a long time and developed a connection she's not down to have sex with just any random person for fun no i don't i don't think so like she's definitely not i mean she's had experiences but definitely nowhere the amount of experiences that i have and she told me all the time you're the best sex i've had i'm just like whatever i believe her i mean how many got how old was she when you married her we got buried pretty late so mid-30s. Okay, so do you know her numbers?

Like, did she fuck a lot of guys before she was with you or she fucked three? No, I wanted to probably say five, six or maybe seven, somewhere around there. Not that many. Yeah, but maybe that's why she liked you so much. Maybe that's why she married you because you fucked better than all of them. You know what I mean? She had the best chemistry with you. I mean, honestly, that connection when you have it with someone is very powerful.

It keeps you there, right? So I believe her that she has the best sex with you. Yeah, and I totally like, I mean, I love having sex with her. She will say, oh, sometimes I think you get bored, but it's not, I'm not bored at all. I enjoy being with her. I mean, she's amazing. So I don't know. I mean, I guess I'll take it as a compliment and just keep going.

Yeah, I would believe her. But let me ask you this. So you have just that one woman in your life. So I'm assuming she's all you need when it comes to the part of you that's attracted to women, right? Like you're no need for variety or anything, like your wife's enough. And you get like your variety with guys when you hook up with them. Yeah, like I absolutely don't go out like searching for other women. I will stay though.

I've had an experience with a female to male. So I don't know if that counts. But no. A trans woman? A trans man? Yes. Right, right. Okay. You meet that person. Tell me that experience.

Through app, they were actually on a, it's funny, a gay guy's app. And we kind of connected, and he was in a polyamorous relationship. So it was kind of open. He and his husband, they actually had another partner. So he was kind of looking for his own partner, I guess. And I'll tell you what, I've never seen somebody. be like so wet in my time. I was just like, whoa, I don't

know if it's the hormones or what, but yeah. It was crazy. So it was a guy. I mean, he presented as a man, right? But he had a pussy because he didn't, he wasn't fully transitioned. Right. If you saw him on the street, you would not know that he

was like trans. Right, right, right. You would believe that he was a genetic male. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like full beard, hairy. pretty much all the things I kind of like. So, but then I had that extra bonus. It was awesome. We had some good time.

Yeah, so it is kind of like half cheating. I don't know. But not, I don't know. I mean, did you go, were you looking for that? Or were you just on that app? Because it was a gay app, right? You said. And like looking for dudes.

And then you came upon this guy. And it happened to be like the female to male. And you're like, let's try it out. Yeah. But I've been with a trans guy before. It had been years in between the so I guess kind of

was I searching it out, no. Right. Did it happen? Yeah. Yeah. So you never tell your wife about any of your experiences, correct? No. She knows zero. Okay, walk me through like a typical three month period. Could three months go by

and you don't hook up with any guys? I mean, how often are you hooking up with dudes? I mean, it just kind of varies. I guess like was almond joy. Sometimes I feel like a nut. Yeah, I like it. I mean, yeah, it could be three months where it's nothing.

I mean, there's actually been a few periods where I've had like just a specific another, for a while there I was seeing another married guy for a few years. So it was just him and we hook up every so often. Tell me a little bit about the married guy. How did you meet him and how long did you play? I mean, you probably meet a lot of married guys. I've had them all in my show. I do.

Yeah. I do. That guy in particular, we, again, we met on, actually we met on double list because Craig List, they had the whole shutdown. So it took me a while to kind of find that one. But we met up and we talked for a little bit, you know, got a chance to kind of know each other. And it said, hey, why don't you come over to my place? So I went over to his house, like his family house, well his wife's not there? These fucking guys.

No, she wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. I would never do that. Yeah. But, you know, hey. Teach their own, yeah. Right. If you're comfortable with that, I mean, all power to you, man.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we had a good time together. I mean, I topped him, oral, that sort of thing. And we just continued a relationship, I think, for, I want to tell you about a year, two years, year and a half, two years. Mm-hmm. And he was just, like, on the DL, wife had no clue. Yeah, yeah. Most of the guys are. Like, I'll ask them. Like, anybody that I meet up with, I'm completely transparent. I tell them what my situation is. I ask them, well, excuse me. And most of the guys are like, yeah, my wife has no idea. And I'm like, okay, well, you know, whatever works for you, I guess. How do gay men feel? Have you hooked up with any gay men? And, like, how do they feel about bisexual guys? I wonder.

I've hooked up with a couple. First and foremost, though, I prefer other married guys. I mean, I think it's just easier because we're coming kind of from the same place. Yeah. But over the years, I've hooked up with a few gay guys. For the most part, they don't really say anything. I do remember talking to one gay guy. He's just like, all these married guys, Dio guys keep trying to reach out to me.

I'm like, well, you got nice ass when you want me to do. Yeah, well, did you listen to me? to the Maverick men that were on recently? Do you know them? Because they're very kind of famous in the porn world. Yeah. Yeah, I've actually used to watch their stuff all the time, but then they start charging for it. So I'm cheap. You can see a lot on Twitter for free to little clips. Well, I'm not so big on Twitter. Maybe I need to be. But yeah, I'm definitely a fan of the Maverickmen. They are two gorgeous guys, but I'll have to go back. You're going to love it. It's a new episode with them. I tape them very. early on like one of my first 30 episodes but I decided to have them back on because I wasn't a good interviewer back then and their story's so fucking great uh you'll love it and they talked to the reason why I brought them up is they talked about the whole married guy thing I mean that is something they will not do on their videos they're very specific because they don't like anyone on the DL they'd be down with you because you're open about it you know what what they explained is like the whole idea of maverick men and

the word Maverick is like you are out and proud, you're who you are. So they don't like doing any of the guys that are married on the DL cheating behind the wife's back. But I've had those guys on my show. I know there's so many, right? And I, because I just think still the stigma is still there for a guy and guy action where it went away for women in my lifetime. It was there for women when I was younger.

And then it blew over in like the late 80s. And then every girl had a girl crush and girls are out and proud. I think, you know, the younger generation is very different. But for older people, I think there's still a stigma for guys coming out and saying they're into dudes. And so therefore, you got a lot of guys hiding it. And a lot of my guy friends say the most ridiculous things. Like, oh, Kathy, it's more natural for a girl to like another girl because their bodies are so beautiful to look at. That's why there's not as many men because it's like, you're fucking full of shit.

You're probably sucking dick, too, on the side. There's just as many guys out there that are into guys. I think more people are bisexual than heterosexual. homosexual if you have that Kinsey scale right and homosexual is on one end of the spectrum and straight is on the other I think it's more normal to be someplace in the middle I think those other things are very extreme so I think a lot of people fall somewhere on that line and maybe you're 955 but you know a lot most people aren't 100% absolutely I completely agree with that right come on I totally believe in that Kinsey's scale I actually watched his movie great movie

Yeah, I totally fall in mind with that. I don't think anybody is 100% heterosexual or homosexual. I think there's always a scale. I do agree with that stigma still exists. I think the younger generation is definitely kind of breaking that barrier down. But at the same time, I got to make cats like some of them, it just like confuses me. Like, you know, one day they're like, okay, I want to be a cat today. And I'm just like, well, this is going to get a little bit too far.

A cat? Oh, yeah. We got people that are, that identify as furries and all types of stuff. And I'm just like, I mean, if it makes you happy, who am I to judge? But it's hard for me to keep up. Just like you were saying about the whole bisexual thing, I guess I would be considered heterofluid. Yeah. But it changes every day.

So who knows? Look, if you want to have fun, you want to suck a dick or eat some pussy or fuck ass or by all means do it. Just be happy. Listen, you had a hot. experience recently you had your own threesome right recently was a surprise threesome tell me about that story let's get some very surprised oh my gosh so again but this guy of a ff and we had been talking for a while and trying to figure out when we were going to meet up and he we were talking and he's I think we should get a room and I was like okay cool no problem so we had talked for a little bit and then all of a sudden

I look at my messages and he's got a room for tomorrow I'm like whoa wait a bit dude you know I have a schedule here. So I was like, really? I was like, man, I wish you would have told me, blah, blah, blah. And the shorter of it. I worked some things out, so I met him at the room. He says he mentioned it. He mentioned nothing of it.

But I get there and walk in and we start kind of getting together kissing, strip down, getting naked. We're blowing each other. I ate his ass and all that stuff. But at this point, it's just you and the guy, right? Yeah. So next thing I know, keep on, I got to check my phone. I was like, okay, cool.

I know he had work he was doing. So he checked his phone and he's like, oh, he's here. And I'm like, he? Who? What? So this also ties into the whole, the guys not say they're gay, but we'll keep going. Yeah. So I hear knocking the door.

And I was like, oh, you got somebody who's coming? Yeah, I didn't tell you. I'm like, no. So the guy walks in and like, I'm on the bed. I'm like completely naked and he walks in and he looks and he's like, oh, so you already got a friend here. He's like, oh, I thought I told you. I'm like, dude, you're full of shit. You didn't tell me what else.

So, I mean, that's what I'm thinking. So the guy comes over, like kind of comes over to the bed. And me and the other guy, we, well, actually, I was just at that point kind of just watching them. And, like, he started getting in undressed and stuff. And I think they started making out or whatever. So I split over and started sucking him off. I was like, since you got here, we got to get you all warmed up. So, I mean, I don't see it, though, it was freaking hot, man.

Like, we were just kind of switching positions. It almost kind of minded me of a porno, but we're sucking each other off, we're switching and everything. And I tried to, like, kind of play with his ass a little bit, and he kind of moved a little bit. So I was like, all right, well, maybe he's not into that. So then next thing I know, we're, like, sucking each other off again. And then he looks at me and he's like, do you top? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, do you got a condom?

I'm like, yeah. And he's like, why want you to fuck me? I was like, okay. So like, he, like, the other guy lays on the bed. Actually, we got him off, the other guy. But he, like, lays on the bed, and he's sucking him off, and he's, like, on all four. So I get behind him and I started fucking him. But then he kept stopping and, like, pulling out, and he was, like, going to switch and all this stuff.

And then he's, like, why don't we go over on the chair? So he's over the chair and suck another guy off, and I'm fucking him from behind. And, like, he just kept pulling. And I'm just like, you know what, dude? I just basically stopped, and then I started, like, fingering them. And he's like, you got one finger in there. I'm like, yeah, he's like, well, I need more. Just I'll tell you when.

So I was shoving some more fingers up there, and I got him off. And then I hopped in the shower. So him and the other guy were talking. And then I came out to shower. And he's like, hey, I got to go, blah, blah, blah. So that means the other guy started talking. He's like, man, like, I met him on AFF. And he kept saying how he was straight and everything.

And he's like, he sure didn't seem straight to me, because, you know, you were fucking about the ass? I was like, yeah, he definitely had some stuff up there before. That was not the first time he had slusted up his ass. What is a straight guy doing, showing up to meet two guys? Exactly. I don't understand how he could even tell that lie. It doesn't even make sense.

He wasn't told that any girls were going to be there, right? Right, exactly. Well, shit, I don't know what he was told because I didn't know he was going to be there. He's feeling like he didn't know I was going to be there, so who knows. But I mean, like, it sounds like you had fun? Oh, yeah. It was, like, awesome. I hadn't had a group, like, get together like that in, like, ages.

So it was unexpected, but, I mean, I really enjoyed it. Like, I had a good time. I mean, I didn't get off, but sometimes that's not the most important thing. But, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. So quick question. I was thinking of this before when you're like, oh, they, you know, hit me up last minute, come meet, I move things around.

I mean, you have a don't ask, don't tell thing with you. your wife. Do you have to lie when you are meeting up with a guy? Like, how do you account for your time when you are doing hookups? Do you lie about it? Do you say, I'm just busy? Like, how do you get around that without letting her know? Because she doesn't want to know, right? So do you lie where you are? I mean, you're not saying, hey, I'm going to a hotel. I'll see what I'm done, right? I mean, no. So basically, I work for myself. So I pretty much set my own schedule. Yeah. So, I mean, Like, I'm out in about all the time, so really and truly all day I could be anywhere. So, yeah, no, my schedule is so flexible that I can make pretty much anything, you know, make time for pretty much anything.

So where do you find guys now and how many regulars do you have in rotation? Do you have any, like, married guys? I mean, you said you had that one guy you were playing with for years. Why did that stop with him? I moved and I don't have anybody regular. I love to have somebody regular. But it's just kind of out there. I mean, especially like some of these guys are just like, you know, I would be more than happy just like a regular person.

I guess I'm in the process of looking for that. You mean finding a regular, another regular. Now, has feelings ever come into play any time ever? With anyone? I feel like that probably doesn't happen in booty calls with guys. I'm not sure. Like feelings, anyone caught feelings? Oh, oh, oh.

Look, you don't even know the word feelings. Right. What is that? A girl would be like hopping on that convo. Right, right. I mean, have I had like emotions for somebody? Yeah, but I mean, once everybody's finished, it's just, okay, well, what's going on? And I mean, it's not for somebody that I've seen regularly.

Yeah, I talk to them about what's going on in their life, family, that sort of thing. But have I, like, been in love with anybody? No, no. Right, right. But right, okay. But you have felt some feelings. feelings to some guys? But is it just horny feelings?

Yeah, like a friendship. Like a friendship, yeah. Right, right. Yeah, that's about as far as they go. Right. And now, so where do you find your guys now? What apps are you on? Adult Friend Finder still?

Well, I just stumble across Friend Finder. So, yeah, I'm on there. I'll do double list every now and again. I'm trying to think where, oh, there's another one out there called Sniffy. I don't know. I'm probably giving away some stuff. I think that's, like, all over. but I met a few people there.

But yeah, mostly those three. Sniffies? What a weird word to use. I mean, that's not really hot. I don't know. Sniffies? This is kind of gross. I don't, yeah.

Like, at first when I came across, I was like, what? It's like a foot thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah. What are you sniffing? What are guys that are into guys sniffing? Your assholes?

I just kind of gross. Yeah. I don't know. But it's not bad. But it's, the funny thing is, especially a lot of, of these guys, like you said, are Dio, married. So you'll see a lot of the same people posting in the same. I mean, I think it's just like anything else.

Even though you can be in like a huge city, if you're in a certain scene, pretty much everybody kind of goes in and all that same scene. So not that I may have met every single person, but some of the posts and stuff, oh, yeah, I've seen him five million times. Oh, that's so fun. And usually those are the ones I try to avoid. Right. Now, what about protection?

Do you always use condoms? Like, how do you stay safe? Yeah, so the guy that I was seeing that was the other married guy, if it's somebody I've been with for a while, then no. But yeah, if it's like one-off, absolutely. But usually that's the thing. It's not like I'm out. Not that this makes it better or anything, but it's not like I'm always out fucking somebody. I mean, it may just be like oral, like swapping oral or something like that.

But, yeah. If it's somebody like I know and we are like, it's ongoing. thing, then no. You'll throw the condom out. But do you wonder whether they're with other people doing the same thing? I mean, it's very possible. But that's why I, yeah, but, you know, hey, like, I know where I met you and I know all these other sites. So I'm definitely going to be stalking you.

One of the things that I always do is, like, I always get them to, like, text me. And then I, like, start looking up all their information. Right. Yeah, that's smart. I do the same thing, right? You put their numbers in quotes and then go check them out. Just to see if they're re-bill and stuff like that, you mean? Like, and just get, like, some information on them just so that you have that in your back pocket in case something happens.

Absolutely. I mean, yes. And just kind of just knowing who you're dealing with. I mean, one of those things are great, but I'm more into a repeat situation. I don't like doing, like, just me and somebody. Yeah, one person, right. Right. Well, you could be my booty call, but I want you to be my booty call a lot of time.

Yeah, yeah, that's how I roll. If I have a booty call, I want the same one. I think that sex gets better over time with somebody, right? Absolutely. Don't you think? So I feel like, yeah, if it's always the first time with someone, it's okay, right? Especially if you're just wired for a little variety. But I think if you find someone that you have good chemistry with and you fuck them all the time,

that just grows and you could do more fun things because you're comfortable with each other, right? I don't know. I'm the same way. I totally agree. I totally agree. I think that is spot on. Yeah, so what are you looking for right now? Do you have any other hot experiences you want to talk about?

I mean, can you count how many guys you've been with all this time? Oh, my gosh. I was just thinking about that the other day. How many? Yeah, no, it's, I've had my share. I mean, just, I mean, sexual experiences in general. I guess I've been kind of a horror. I don't know how to say it, but I'll be honest.

I love sex. I think it's great. It gets your juices flowing. I mean, there's nothing better than being with somebody you both get off. And, I mean, that just rains your whole day. So I guess that's not answering your question. But listen, I tell my guy friends all the time. You'd be so much happier if you were fucking gay.

But most guys would be, you know, fucking all the people that you're fucking if girls were like as down with fast, casual sex as guys are, right? I mean, most guys fuck as much as they can. When a guy that's not fucking as many people is because they're probably straight and they can't get a girl to just go home with them and fuck them. It's a lot easier. They're miserable. Yeah, but it's a lot easier if you're a guy looking for a guy because you're wired the same way. Things happen quicker.

I just think that for guys, right, I think the shit that goes down when it comes to guy on guy experiences don't typically happen in the. the straight community for guys. Like, I had a gay friend, and I've talked about this on my show before. Literally, like, this is a real life situation that happened. If this happened in the straight world, like, cops would be called. Okay, so he's on a bus going to, like, Fire Island or some sort of gay beach area, right? So there's a lot of gay guys on the bus, and he's, like, sitting there, and he sees a guy, and they keep, like, kind of looking at each other.

They're, like, they're far apart on the thing, and the guy, like, winds up taking his dick out and shows it to him on the the bus and then my friend like gives him a look like yeah that's fucking hot and so the guy gets off the bus and my friend gets off the bus and follows him home and they fuck i mean if that happened if i'm on a bus and some guy's staring at me and i look at him and then he takes his dick out first of all i'm not going home with him i'm calling the cops do you know what i'm saying like this is the difference this is the difference in the world of guys meeting girls and the world of guys hooking up with guys Like that scenario would only happen for a straight guy in porn, okay? Not in real life.

But in the gay community, that happens in real life. Like situations that a straight man could only fucking dream of. You know what I mean? Because guys are wired differently. Guy on guy action, I think happens quicker. Yeah. Funny, that does happen more in guy on guy, but for some reason it never happened to me. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or, but I guess maybe I'm,

a little bit more cautious than... Yeah, you're also not as free. Listen, you're married, right? You're not going to like bath houses and fire island. You're not really in that community, right? You're getting your guys online. You're fucking a lot of married guys. And that's what you prefer, right?

So you're not walking around open for those experiences as much because I think you are married and you have that going on. Right. And I mean, in my day-to-day life, I guess I present more like straight. I was actually some guy kind of told me like where he worked and was like you should come by. So I came by and didn't let him know who I was or anything. And then I like start texting him.

Hey, how's it going? I was working on blah, blah, blah. I was like, did you see anybody? And he's like, no like cute guys. Everybody's straight. I was like, really? I was like, because I identify more as curved than straight. Right.

Yeah. So I don't know. I guess maybe I don't put out that signal or I don't know. I've never had an experience like that. Right, but I'm just going to tell you this. If you were like on adult friend finders or all these apps where you're finding all these guys and you were like the guy that was just looking to fuck some girls on the side, like you look to fuck some guys on the side, you would not have too many to count. Okay. The amount of women that you could find that are going to meet you out in a hotel room like in all the shit that you're doing with all these guys, it wouldn't be in the hundreds.

You'd be able to count on your two hands how many women were down for that. But because it's guys, you're finding a lot of that. I don't think that straight guys that are on adult friend finders that are just looking for a fucking hookup. Listen, they're not striking out. They will meet some girls. I've had those girls on my show. It's not like no girls are down for that. But you're not going to meet as many.

I think that you still are getting your fair share of guys. Like you can't even count the guys. You're married. You have like your wife at home and you love sex with her. Plus you have all these guys. I mean, you're kind of living your best life. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, I mean, you have a lot more sex going down and variety than most guys have

because you have OpenZet. That's why I tell my guy friends, go start hooking up with guys too. They probably half of them are, okay? They're just not talking about it because I think it's just easier. You're wired the same way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. I've had my share of experiences with women,

but it is definitely a lot easier between guys. I guess we're just a bunch of horn dogs or something. Oh my God. Start going. Go on. We're good old friend fighters and emailed 50 girls. Tell me how many email you back that aren't fake guys, okay? Probably not.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know. But anyway, listen, will you, when it's a guy like this and it's a guy and guy action, send me in a pick for my Patreon if you want, like an anonymous pick, if you want to. I also have a Discord now. where people like go on there it's a private discord people who call into my show could sign up for free I'll give you a link if you want to go in when your episode is up do whatever you want on there I don't care people get really naughty on my discord but if you want to send me a not naughty picture just to kind of

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