Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 678 - Mark and his Wife Started Swinging When They Met and They've Been Swinging Ever Since

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

Mark and his wife started swinging the minute they met and they’ve been swinging ever since and he called in to talk all about it. How and why did they open up their marriage right away? What did they get into at first? And, how did things progress? Tune in to hear all the details including how his wife was was super jealous and how that led to her admitting she was into women, how they went looking for a couple to hook up with and what exactly went down with them during their first hook up, and off when looking for couples, the first couple they met and what happened how his wife loved hooking up with women and got really into strap on sex and more, how he slowly got her into being open to her hooking up with guys, how their soft swaps eventually led to full swaps, how she developed a love for bigger dicks over time and the the porn star orgasms she has while experiencing them, their swingers club experiences and exactly what would go down, how and why his wife needs the other people to be openly attracted to her for her to be into it, how and why his wife was never the aggressor as far as when they would swing but she was totally into it when it happened, how and why he doesn’t like sharing her kissing with others, how he has kept chemistry between them going for so long, what he is most attracted to in his wife, how and why he instructs the guys on what to do with his wife when setting up their threesomes, their trip to Desire nudist resort and the rules that go down there, the sites they use to find orgies and swingers events in their vicinity, how they ran their own swinger parties ad how they set them up, how and why they only played with and invited certified couples to their events, where they find certified couples and what that means, how and why they always play together but she sometimes solo plays with women, what turns them off and what people should do and not do when trying to hook up with other couples, what his wife looks for in other women, how and why she remained super horny through menopause plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of JAKE plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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they're doomed for failure. He's going to prove you wrong. Okay. Mark and his girl have been swinging since the 80s, okay, before most people were doing it. He's stories about how it went down back then before the internet are pretty funny. If you're young, you're going to be like, what the fuck world did you guys grow up in? I forgot what snail mail was all about. But that's where we start when they first met. I mean, literally, these two got married after three days, okay, of meeting each other. Love at first sight.

They're still together in their 60s and they're still fucking other people, okay? Started swinging super young. He talks about how that started, what their rules were at first. Things progressed slowly. It was all up to his wife. He was cool with that. He loves his wife, okay? They had, like I said, he married her after three days.

But she was very into women, but she was also very jealous, which is interesting. So they took things very slow. So in the beginning, it was just them meeting up with couples, her hooking up with women, and the guys just watching. And then it eventually progressed to her allowing, like, the guys to kind of get involved with her while he watched. It was like the last thing that took place between them was him being allowed to be with the women, too, because she was super jealous, but,

eventually that came into play. They have been there, done that everything. Like I said, they started like very slowly, but once they got into it, now they totally hard swap. They do everything. They started to go to Swingers clubs. Once the internet hit big, they went on all kinds of different websites. He talks about the websites that he went on to find like the Swingers clubs and the Swinger events and the house parties and all that kind of stuff that they started to go to. He ran a party, a Swingers party. One time he said, for New Year's Eve. They had 100 couples show up. So that's 200 people all fucking at his house. They went once to the club Desire that he talks about. He told me some interesting things about that

nudist place called Desire. No sex allowed there. I didn't know that. But mostly we talk about him and his wife, how he loves seeing her with other people. He talks a lot about her fucking crazy orgasms because she's really into sex. What's interesting to me is that she went through metapause. She's like in her 60s now, but she's still good to go. And we talk. a little bit of that towards the end but we get the whole story how things evolved all the kinds of swinging they did he's super interesting like I said before I love their story because this will prove anybody wrong who thinks that if you open up your marriage you're doomed for failure this guy fucking loves his wife he's still a smitten with her since he was that first day he met her

it's so super obvious they are each other's best friends I think that's what it takes to be successful at swinging and opening it up. So I love to show a positive story to show that it can go right. Okay. You're going to love a story. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Mark. Hi, Mark. Welcome to the Strictly NamUs podcast.

How are you today? I'm absolutely great, Kathy. Thanks so much for having me. I'm very glad to be on your show. I love it. You found my show on YouTube, which is cool. I love YouTube. I mean, YouTube is hard for my show because they censor me a lot.

And I don't know. It's just, oh, my God, half of my. episodes I can't get monetized. I can't put some of them up there because they're too salacious. Some of them I have to add it. But I love YouTube because people comment over there. And I like to have conversations about the episodes and I get into debate. So other people might think it's a fight, but I call it a debate.

I love a good debate. So it's fun over there. Sure. Yeah. So listen, Mark, you're a swinger. I was excited to talk to you because I feel like I haven't talked to a swinger in a while. I don't know why. And you and your wife have been swinging for a really long.

time. Like one year after you were married, you guys started swinging. In 1983, we were married. I married her three days after I met her. Oh, I like that. That's interesting. Absolutely love at first sight. And Marie is, without a doubt, the most beautiful woman I've ever met. And to the point where we used to go out and have a few drinks. And not that she did anything, but guys were just constantly hitting on her. I constantly find myself defending her. And I was like, this, this is enough enough. We're not going out drinking anymore.

So, but the bottom line, as far as we were concerned, is we got into swinging because while she was very beautiful, she was also very insecure. I never got to why. But she didn't even like me looking at dirty magazines. And me being a horny, 23-year-old, I don't care how many times we're going at it. You're going to pick up a hustler or a cherry or whatever the magazines were back in 1983 and that's where things started she had found my two or three magazines i had and just flew into a rage and i was like baby no i said but see you're still the most beautiful woman i've

ever seen and well you're looking at the magazines i's like well because i'm a guy and that's what us guys do yeah so after after we calm things down i came into the bedroom later that night and she was going through the magazines looking at them and i was like well it's okay for you to look at them why can't I? And it was at that point she expressed me her interest in women. Oh, okay. That was very bold of her back then, especially, because back then people don't understand it was taboo even for women to be into women.

We can't think of, we can't imagine that nowadays. But that's how it was back in the 80s. Yeah. And immediately, my mind started racing. Yeah. I can figure something out. Let me figure something out.

Yeah. And I will tell you how swinging was pre-internet days. I used to have to go into an adult bookstore and buy a magazine that in the back of the magazine, there was advertisements. And you would have to mail a letter and some pictures to a post office box. Oh, my God. Yes, they would forward the mail onto the person you were writing to. I think we had to put one or two dollar bills to do that. And then a week later, you'd get a mail, and there'd be pitchers or, and unfortunately,

sometimes they didn't mail the pictures back. They were just picture collectors. But that's how swingy was back in 1983 before the internet. So it usually took about a month before you actually sat down with a couple. And then, if they look like their pictures, great, fine, wonderful. If they didn't, we usually just get up and leave. That was her thing. She didn't like a lack of integrity.

And if you looked like your pictures were five years or 50 pounds ago, she was like, sorry, this is going to work. Let's go. Right. Then the internet came and then just all hell broke loose. Okay, but wait, let me just before you get to all hell broke loose, we have an hour. Okay, let's slow it down a little bit.

I'm sure you have a million stories because you've been swinging since the 80s, which might be the title. Mark and his wife have been swinging since 80s. But what was that first time? Like, I mean, this is a woman, right? You just said your wife couldn't even handle the fact of you looking through a dirty magazine. And now you're hooking up with couples. Like, how does it go down your first time?

And how does she feel? And what happened? Well, we had to talk about a lot of the things that she was interested in, which was totally women. Back then, no single fee. emails really advertised in these magazines. So when we talked to couples and the letters I wrote were all very definitive, we're not looking to have another man be with my wife. And I'm not looking to be with, you know, the other. Right, right. Okay. So really in the beginning, it was, it really didn't touch any of her buttons because she's just hooking up with women and you guys are

watching. Like that's all that's going down in the before the internet was like girl on girl action. and the guys watching no swapping or anything like that? Well, the guys were allowed to play with their own wife. Okay. But she didn't want to be touched by another guy. And frankly, I really had no interest in other women. My wife was the best lover still to this day I've ever had. Yeah, that's awesome.

Plus, you're seeing it. I mean, there's the pleasure of also you're getting to see her with other women, right? Yes. And that's free live porn never bothered any. guy as far as I would think. Yeah, with your wife, the girl you have and she's super hot. Now, how did she, like, how was her first experience with women? Was she like, oh my God, I'm like so into girls, obviously, right? Because she kept continuing on. Well, just to touch on the fact that, again, she was very paranoid about me, me wanting other woman, even in magazines. That was because she was

self-conscious, I think, a lot about her own self. And again, she was extraordinarily beautiful. never really got into why she ever thought that. Because she's a girl. Because she wasn't. But if she felt acceptance at all from another woman, then it was game on. But if she didn't,

then she would just be very sedate and kind of stay within herself. But the second a woman made any kind of overture to her that she was attracted to her, then you better get off the bed because she's going to be hands, arms, tongues, nipples.

going crazy with her. And that's exactly what happened. Luckily, we found a couple that felt the same as us. This was that wife's first time as well, but she was ultra positive that this is what she wanted to do. And as soon as Marie felt the acceptance from that woman, like I said, me and the husband just both got off the bed. We sat in the chairs and we were both jerking off watching them go. And it was just a sight to behold. They had flowed very naturally for her.

I'm sorry, very naturally for her. The woman took the lead and started kissing her. And then they just melted together. And everything they wanted to do for a first time, they did. I didn't know how my wife was going to be as far as performing oral on another woman. But I soon found out that she took to that like a fish to water. And we had a spectacular time. Now that the lack of having to write back and forth to this couple was broken,

we ended up seeing them two or three more times. And each time got even a little bit more adventurous where they started playing with toys. I don't think they had Hitachi's back then, but I know they had bullet vibrators and they certainly had strap-ons, which got used very well in all of our encounters. Oh, wow. So they were like fucking each other with their strap-ons and everything? Well, my wife did most of the fucking because for whatever reason, it was kind of odd to me, but, you know, I don't have a pussy, so I couldn't tell you.

But she loves the feel of a cock, but dildos for whatever reason didn't seem to have, or not dildos, but strap-ons didn't seem to have the same feel. They don't have the same feel. Yeah, of course, I had to take her word for that when we would, you know, talk after that. Yeah. And she had no problem taking charge. She's, you know, she's 100% Italian, so she could be a little domineering anyway. So if there was a strap on involved, she was usually the one that was wielding it. Wow.

Did any of her friends know what she was doing? Probably no way back then. Well, we lived very far from the house because I joined, we were in the military at the time. I joined the military as soon as we got married. So we were way far away from home. And that was a little bit of cause for worry when I told her that we were going to be bailing pictures to people up she was no what if my family finds on but baby we're in Tennessee you don't have a family they're all they're all in Newark and New York City so there's that the chance of

happening is going to be slim and none which easter concerns some so now did you do a lot like so now all of this like all the the action before we get to when the internet comes into play was it all just like her with women right you guys weren't doing any kind of swapping or anything like that and right Yeah, no, not at first. If she, and she made all the rules again, and I didn't mind. I didn't care. Like I said, she's the best lover ever had. So if she said, look, you sit in a thing and me and the couple are going to go at it,

I would have been okay with that. But she didn't. And then as times would go on and we met with other couples, if there was a good looking guy after the encounter, she would say, I wouldn't mind if he'd be. touched me. I'm like, well, next time, just if it's a good looking guy or a good looking dick, take his hand and put it on your tit and see what happens. Oh, okay. And then did that what happened started to happen? That's what that's exactly. As a matter of fact, the first time I took his hand and put it on

his tit. I'm sorry, on her tit. Yeah. And you could tell from her moans that that was just fine by her. Still, still no penetration. But if you got a that was eating her out and a guy who was in her mouth, I would just sit by, lay by her side and stroke her other breast while she was having a great time. And then things slowly progressed because, again, she was very jealous. So I really had to wait until she took my hands and put it on the other woman, where she was horny enough or understanding enough that I wasn't into that woman would ease her anxiety about her looks. And still to this day four, years later, she's still a beautiful woman, and I still, to this day, do not know why she was so nervous

about that. So I just, I just, I just waited and waited and waited. And then sooner or later, she would take my hand and put it on her tit. And there's nothing. I never met, never met a tit. I didn't like that, that's for sure. And then things would solely progress from there. And we always had a great time talking about things afterwards. We would, we would masturbate with toys, and we would tell each other stories. And then it would start graduating to, well, what is he? What, what if he wanted to fuck you. And she said, again, she's very demonstrative with her moments.

That was it. That's how I knew. I said, well, next time we can, we can see and see what happens. And then the more times we met with couples that she was comfortable with, then we started talking, and I talked to the guy and say, look, I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if she's going to be attracted, you're not. But if she is, are you cool with that?

And he's looked at my wife's, hell, hell yeah. Yeah. But we always used condoms, which was a little bit of a turrets. But that was back in the 80s when some of the viruses that were floating around were really, really nasty. Yeah. So we always agreed to the condoms. And still to this day, she still wants condoms. But then we just started evolving into a full swap couple.

Girls would usually play to get things warmed up. And she never had a promise. She was attracted to the guy. she would take his hand and put it on her tip she would take her hand and put it on her ass and then he would respond in kind i still had to wait until she gave me the okay which again i was fine with i've always been fine with that like i said she's a wonderful extraordinary lover so but that's how things evolved until we finally became a false swap couple wow so do you remember that time that she allowed you like was it something that you talked about ahead of time that she was like okay

you could now start having sex with women or did it just come up one day that you that she like pushed you into it. Like how did that first full swap go? Because she was really jealous of other women. Now she's allowing you to fuck another woman. Always waited until she gave me the signal that was okay. Yeah. Always.

And then it would have vowed to the point where after her third or fourth orgasm, she'd say, if you want to fuck her, you can. And I'm like, okay, having to be very careful that I didn't make more noise than I did with my, her. But by that point, and still to this day, And we haven't really been with a couple for about a year because she's had some medical issues. Yeah. So, but yeah, no.

And then, but after that, it was game on. And while I'm quite average in size, I noticed over the course of our swinging that she did have a preference for larger, larger bill of guys. And I really don't think I'm by or gay or in any way, shape, poor fashion. but if I was with her and another couple and I would watch that guy grow to whatever length he did, I could look at his dick and go, yeah, yeah, Marie's going to have a good time with this. Absolutely going to have a good time.

And fortunately, she usually did. Yeah, well, listen, I think unfortunately what happens is once a woman has a bigger one, it's like you get used to it. And I think a lot of size queens are born that way. People always thought I was like the biggest size queen, but it's because one of my first long-term boyfriends, like actually the longest boyfriend I ever had is probably because he had the

hugest dick I've ever seen was humongous. And so, and I was with him for many years and you get used to that and it's really pleasurable and you like it. But if you never had a really big one, a smaller one can be fine. I think that that's how size queens are born. You have a big one and then you're like, oh, fuck, that feels really good. I do agree and listen into some of your stories. I can see how that would evolve.

But we never got to the point where me and her were alone in between meeting somebody where she said, you're not big enough for her. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, right. No, but you're always going to have fun with that and you're going to like it because it's bigger, but that doesn't mean that you're not going to be turned on by a guy who's not humongous. It's all chemistry. Look at you guys have a chemistry since the minute you met, and that's never gone away, how many years later.

So that trumps everything. And I think that's what's always important to say. I think sometimes guys can't listen past a girl saying she loves a big dick, even if she says, but I will take a regular one too, like your wife, they can't believe that's true. But both things could be true at the same time, like you said. Sure. Your girl started to like guys that were bigger and you knew that.

But it wasn't like when she came back to you, she wasn't like disappointed. No way. Sure. And I only say this because the amount of, orgasms she had when she was with a guy who is of larger size. And when she gets with a little bit of a larger guy, it's porn star orgasms. None of this. None of this.

We've actually with one couple, we actually had hotel management come and say, hey, you guys got to keep it down. Oh, my. That's how loud she got. That's how long she. With the bigger deck. Yes. We watched porn together.

and she's all these ladies are fucking, why aren't they having good orgasm? I say, well, I think you're a little unusual in as far as that goes of how free you are to be able to enjoy yourself. And that satisfied her in that regard.

Yeah. So we just, we've been doing it, like I said, since, and then the internet opened up. And then we just, then we started searching for swing clubs and things like that. We were in Kentucky at the time. So we used to head to Nashville.

I think the swing club down there is now closed. But when we went there, it was an off-premises club. If you met somebody, you couldn't do anything there. But then if she met a couple she liked, then we would get together and see what happens from there. We've had a few good experiences over time, early comers and guys who couldn't get it up. And that always bothered her because it immediately went back to he's not attracted to me. Oh, right, her insecurities. is never the case.

Right. And it's not. And I really, my heart, to believe that they were intimidated by how hot she looks. I'm sorry. A guy can't help but get hard by any naked woman that sits in front of him. You know what I mean?

I don't know. I have a lot of guy friends, so I know that it's never personal if a guy can't get it up, but a lot of girls take it that way. But I mean, you have to be, I don't know what you have to be for a guy to be horny for you when your clothes are on. And then they take it off and they're like, oh, no, thanks.

I can't even get it up. Okay. Maybe they're like, you take off your clothes. You're not as perfect as they thought. They're still going to get fucking horny and fuck you. Okay. And it's hard. I mean, come on.

I would think so, too. Yes. It got to the point as well that she started to enjoy meeting with couples who had not been with any before. She loved indoctinating. Oh, she liked the virgins. Yeah. She really had a pension for that. But still, she would never take charge of the situation.

She always waited for that girl to show the, as soon as she showed she was attracted to her, not a problem whatsoever. But she was usually not the one to initiate anything. That was like her fear of rejection because she had a fear of rejection. Absolutely. Unless the woman was so overpoweringly beautiful such as my wife was, then she would take the lead. but she needed to feel or see a very quick response that what she was doing was good, which made her feel accepted.

And then, like I said, she became an animal. And it was just game on. Right. Now, when you were doing the couples and doing all the swaps, was your wife getting into DPs, DVPs, all that crazy stuff, spit roasting?

I mean, because she's got two guys there, right? I mean, are you just doing swapping? Or it's like her with two guys, you with two girls. We never, she doesn't like anything to do with anal. Okay. Um, whatsoever.

Every once in a while on my birthday or anniversary, she'd allow me to, to take that. You take it in the right way, okay? You must be doing something wrong on her birthday and your anniversary. Because if you did it, right, she'd be taking it all the time. You're just putting

your dick in her, aren't you? You're just like, no, no, I will tell you. That's the oddest part about it is because I would, by the time I would have my dick all the way in her ass, she was orgasming. Oh, okay. And I would pull out and put my dick in her again slowly because it's still her ass and we didn't do it. And she would have another orgasm.

And that would happen for five or seven minutes. Yeah. Six, seven, eight orgasms. But even when it was over, I was like, you came like a friggin' fountain. I know, but I still didn't enjoy it. So. Oh, okay. So she's got some weird block because she physically enjoyed it.

And it was, I wish I would allow us to film because that would have been movie worthy. But even when it was over, I was like, hey, you came five or six times. I know, but I just didn't enjoy it. Yeah, let me tell you, as somebody who, as a woman who can't love multiple vaginal orgasms, that's the only time I ever came two times in a row is through anal because it is a totally different kind of experience. Does she know you're calling me? She doesn't want anything to do with this. She'll listen to the podcast.

Okay. If you can tell me close to a date or I can say that I'll let you know, yeah. To listen. But she absolutely wants nothing to do with it. She doesn't like her pictures being on the internet. She's very sedate in that manner. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And even in all the years we've been swinging, she's never come up to me and said,

hey, are we going to the swing club this weekend? Are we going to the house party this weekend? It's always, hey, Saturday night's coming up. And she just said, I'll get the sitter. That was her telling me that she wanted to do this. That was code for I'm down. Yes. And it's always made it a little bit challenging.

Do you want this or don't you want this? But that was, as long as she said, I'll get the babysitter. And she always got the babysitter. Unless it was her time of the month or, you know, something along that line. But we had a very healthy and still to this day for close to 60 years old. We have a very healthy sex life. And you're still swinging to this day? We are, like I said, she had some surgery, which caused some scarring on her stomach.

Yeah. So she's been very worried about that. And we had an event about a month and a half ago, which was the last time we'd been with anybody. in about guessing I'd say nine months. And she said, but I don't, look, let me, let me fix this for you. And I just went out and bought her a boostier. Yeah. And it covered from below her breasts to just above her pussy.

So you really can't see anything. And I took her over to the mirror. I said, does this help? And she said, yeah, actually it does. I said, then, well, let's see what we can do. Yeah, listen, there's a lot of really hot outfits that you could get her. like body stockings and like stripper gear or it's like stuff that they wear to swingers parties there's like gear that you could get her that she's going to be totally covered up but it's going to

like super hot and the crotch is cut out so she could still have easy access but it also doesn't look like she's hiding anything it just looks like she's wearing like a super slitty hot outfit so I'll look into that shit for her too so that she can still have her fun but she really didn't need that stuff because she had or still has an incredible body minus the scarring. I know, but what, you don't understand because you keep saying you're confused, why she's so hot. Unfortunately for women, it doesn't matter what you say or what you think about her. It has to do with how she feels about herself. That's why they call it self-esteem. It's the same for you. I mean, our self-esteem comes from our self. Nobody else can change the way you feel no matter

what they fucking say. Okay. So you could tell her who can. cares about your fucking scar. If she cares about it, she cares about it. And that's why what you did actually was very smart. Like you gave her something to hide that instead of trying to make her feel better. Eventually, maybe she'll get to the point where she could accept it and she could feel good about it. But if it just happened, it's going to take time. Because women in our society, we have a lot of shit put on us about our bodies, our look, stuff that you, and a man will never understand that. So they never understand a woman's insecurities about the way she looks or anything. You've said it 15 times on this.

I can understand it because I'm a woman. And any woman can understand it. And guys need to know that. It's just like it's put on women from the day they're fucking born. How they look and their body is super important. And if you're not fucking perfect, all these fake people online with their fake filters and what used to be fake cameras, they feel like they're not living up. And that's just a thing that women live with.

And guys will never understand it. And it's so nice as a man, listen, besides questioning how she feels, what you're saying is because you think she's like the fucking hottest thing. So it's so great that you're there always telling her that because even though it doesn't change everything in her, it makes her feel super good about herself. And women love that. That's why women love those kinds of compliments. And she's probably still horny for you because you're that kind of guy. Even though, like I said, it doesn't change a woman's feeling the way she feels about herself. it's going to help her feel hot with you.

It's going to make her want to fuck you more when you're just like telling her she's the hottest piece of ass. Like you do. That's why you have that great chemistry with your girl because you're always reinforcing that. And that's what women feel. Just like the way she is with those girls

when she sees that they're into her, she's down. Like that's a women need that kind of thing as well. So I feel like I'm saying two things. Like it doesn't matter what you say, but it does matter what you say. Do you know what I mean? It does.

And I do have a distinct impact. in that regard because she's got two, besides her obvious beauty to me, she has two things going for her that drive me absolutely nuts. I cannot kiss her without getting immediate erection. I just can't. Yeah, that's major. That's major. And that's been for us. I don't even like sharing her kiss with other people because you can just watch women especially melt into that kiss and it leaves no doubt of her attractiveness to that person to that woman and every once in a great while she'll kiss a guy which she's got to be really turned on to do but i don't like kissing other women because the way my wife kisses me if that makes any sense at all of course

yeah sure and secondly her hands she has beautiful hands a little meaty but when she rakes her nails across your chest or around your balls. It's just, holy fuck. It's just, thank you. Here I am ready to go. Let's do this. So that's a distinct advantage I have as far as showing her physically that I'm still attracted to her.

And I've told her that a few times too. She's really, I'm like, rake your hand across my, your fingertips across my balls and you'll see. And that's how that's how that went. Yeah, well, listen, like I said, that's a reason why this kind of woman. who's wired like her that has not only just the normal insecurity, but it sounds like it's a little bit even more extreme for whatever reason. You're like the perfect guy for her because you're so into her.

And that's why she could feel secure with a guy like you. If she was with a guy like a lot of regular guys that don't give those positive affirmations all the time and wouldn't be as open as you are and stuff, she probably wouldn't have lasted with a guy like that because she needs that. And you give it to her and that's fucking great. But let's get. Yeah. And when we meet with, when we occasionally meet with single guys, you know, I'll take great pains.

We're on a couple of swinger pay sites. And I'll line up to threesomes. And again, I say, hey, we're going out Saturday night. And now it's, we don't need a sitter because our kids are grown and gone. Yeah. But she doesn't even ask me what's going on. It's okay. Okay.

And if she wants, we'll get on the swinger site together. And I'll show the picture of the guy we're going to meet. And she's okay, Saturday night's good for me. But I always tell them in our emails, if you want to see her at her most relaxed and her horniest, pay attention to the compliments. Exactly. Don't be an asshole. Don't be cocky. Don't be arrogant.

And a great time will be had by all. Exactly. Smart. And that's for any woman. Like I said, when she gets going, other than her kiss and her fingertip touch, her orgasms, I would love to make a video for just her orgasms so I can watch them by herself. But she's a little on the camera side side. But her orgasms are just the best thing I've ever seen. Now, let me ask you this, since you're doing all the swinging and everything and

you've been doing this for so long, did you ever, like, hook up with any of your friends or let anybody in on what you guys were doing? We have some friends who know what we've done because we've had to cancel some plans. And they're like, come on. Why? Why? want you want you want to go out with us? I'm like, I got a better Saturday night plan than what you had. I would think of myself. So we've,

and I've had some guys ask me, you guys, you guys pull around. I'm like, we're never bored. We're always got something to do. And then they'll come over to the house and they'll see new friends that are there to meet us.

And I don't know these people. Why don't I know these people? But no, we aren't, we aren't out. We're not, we don't brag to anybody. I've got probably two guys.

guys that are from we're friends with us a couple that have a very good idea of what we're doing but no we never we don't we're not out about it right hey we can't go out with you saturday night because we're going to a house party have you ever done swinger vacations went to any adults like what are those called swinger well we went to a nudist resort 15 years ago i don't even know if it's still open but it's in mexico called desire it's much much, much, much more of a nudist place. Oh, interesting. Okay. And it was, and you want to talk about some beautiful people. Holy cow.

Oh, really? That's interesting. Yes. But sex in the open is not only discouraged, but it will get you thrown out. Seriously? You think that's the way that it is now to this day or was that maybe back? How long ago was that? It's 2012. 2011. Oh, interesting. So you're not, so the rule is you could be naked. out and about. That's encouraged.

That's what the resort is all over. No, no, no. You will be naked. They have no close positive unless it's dinner time. Then you have to be closed. Okay, but do you have to be naked? Yes. Oh, okay. Interesting. It's a new display. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Do you have to be? I don't know, but I've never seen anybody not.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah. Unless it's dinner time. And that's the only time you have to wear clothes. Correct. But you can. not have sex in public. Oh, that's a rule. That's a hard fast rule. And again, it will get you thrown out. Just, just that simple. Somebody come up and said, man, I watched two couples do it. They were having sex. They had some beautiful beds set up on a beach so you could go in the water naked, come back and lounge around. And two couples decided to go at it. And the next thing you know, when we're in our room changing for dinner, these people are being escorted off the property.

Wow. Now, when you're walking down the hallways in that in that resort, do you just hear a lot of fucking going on? Absolutely. Absolutely. And we did a lot too, but we did it behind closed doors. Right. That's just the way it is. And we didn't mind because we're not a really a voyeur or an exhibition couple anyways, unless it got to some orgy type thing. But that was, but that was, we still talked to a couple, a couple couples from our time there. But yes, sex in public was absolutely not only frowned upon.

It was taboo. It was you're gone. Get out. Right. And now tell me about some of your orgies. Did those go down like at Swinger clubs? Well, I was kind of wondering why I don't hear more about it on your podcast because Swinger clubs are great, fine, wonderful, but there's a lot of swinger clubs

that don't really encourage on-premises activity. but we met any orgy we've been to has been at a house party Oh, okay So at the swingers parties Like the swingers house parties Different?

Yes And there's many, many, many House parties here in Florida I don't care what city you go to But there's always a house party going on And we find them on our Swinger sites Well, why don't you tell the people The sites that you use, that's always super helpful

We use, I don't know what it stands for, but there's SDC we're on and we're also on SLS, which is Swinger Lifestyle.com. Right. And that really is the place I think people always say. That's not really a hookup site. That's a place where you're going to network and find where events are and stuff like that. That's the perfect place, right? Absolutely.

Yes. And like I said, I don't care if we want to go away for a weekend to Daytona, I'll just switch our location from where we are to Daytona and then just click on house parties. And there they are. And what's the demographics? Like, what do you see at these house parties and what's going down and tell me some orgy stories? Well, the older we get, the more we see that their couples usually in their late 20s to late 40s. But there are, but we, if you want to, you can always find a house party that caters to our age group, which is 45 to 65.

So, and we actually ran a swing house party for a couple of years. So it's, and it, when I tell you, I posted on SDC and SLS, the very first weekend we started parties, we had 50 couples at our house. No problem. Wow. And did you vet them at all, or was it like whoever responded, you just allowed them to come over? Well, we haven't been on SDC in quite some time, but on SLS, it has a beautiful feature that you can certify a couple. So the very first thing we looked at is, is this. couple certified. And then we read the certification. Beautiful couple friendly open on us,

great and bad. You know what happens. How do people get, how do people get certified? Okay. You and your boyfriend go to a house party. Me and Marie go to a house party. We have a good time. Oh, cool. What's your SLS name? Blah, blah, blah. I tell you mine. When I get home, I look you up on SOS and your profile and there's a place on there where you can click to certify some. somebody. Oh, I like that. So you could give you know it's like a Yelp review. It's a beauty. It keeps away the frauds. It keeps away the pick collectors. It keeps away. As a matter of fact, we won't meet anybody who's not certified now. Smart for sure. That's that's like a I've never heard of anyone talk about that before. That's interesting. And I like I said, I was I was surprised to to to hear that. I can't remember if SDC has that or not.

but I know SLS does, and that's just open up a whole world. I mean, you don't got to worry about fake frauds and phonies and pick collectors and single guys acting as a couple. And then when you beat him, they say, oh, my wife was sick tonight, but how about we go at it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not dealing with any riffraff because they've been certified. I think that that's super smart. And it weeds it all out for you. So when you started to do your parties or that one party that you ran, that's where you always went.

And you just invited certified couples. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it just, it was a dream. It was a dream because we kept our parties limited to, I think our age group was 45 to 65. Mm-hmm. Because we've been to some house parties where you got 25-year-olds and they'll act like jerks. They'll make messes. They'll not clean. Just, just drama. Oh, my God. I couldn't believe some of the drama we saw some of the younger parties. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. When you stuck with the older couple, mature, settled, know what they want there to have a good time, no drama, then you would have a good time.

We did some cleanups after the parties where the only thing we found was maybe a condom stuck on the side of the bed. Okay, no big deal. Put my rubber gloves on, clean it up. But we've went to a room after a 30-year-old couple and whatever couple they were in, and there'd be fucking putting on the wall. sheets torn, actually excrement at one time. And so we just kept it to our age range. The age range we were targeting. And we had no problems whatsoever.

And so what's the largest party you had? The 50 couples, 100 people in your house? Fucking everybody. One Christmas or New Year's Eve party, we had 75 couples. No. You have a big house, I guess. Or backyard. It was a big house.

Yeah, it was a big house, nice pool, a nice outside pool. slide and I think I had seven or eight acres and my security when you pulled up my security had a list here what's your name I'm sorry you're not on the list but but but turn around and have a good night sorry about that it's so funny that

I'm sorry but I'm so glad that I'm on these calls getting shit out of people because I just feel like you're just blowing through all these things look at this information you didn't get to you weren't even going to tell me about this New Year's Eve party you throw parties with a hundred people you have security there I mean you have so much going on here

Well, the security was really just a couple of couples. No, you're supposed to have that. I think that that's, I'm just saying there's so much, you've been, you know what it is? You've been doing this for so long. You have so many experiences, right? It's probably all just, and it's just like a way of life for you, right, that you don't even probably remember half this stuff. Well, not so much anymore.

Like I said, we haven't met for couples for a while, but yeah, it was the vast majority of 25 years we were out almost every weekend every month. So tell me about that New Year's Eve party, though. Who were your security? Were they outside security? Or they were couples, you said? Nope, there were couples. I spent my first seven years in military and law enforcement.

Right. And then it became a pilot. So I knew what to ask and how to do it. So I would find a couple of couples who were either firemen or police who had a nice, strong command presence, a little bit large. archer fellas and you'd man the gate for the first hour, you'd man the gate for the next hour, you'd man the gate for the next hour. And at 11 o'clock, from 8 to 11, we let couples in.

And then we closed the gate. No more couples could come in. Wow. You weren't getting through my gate. Right, right, right. And then that was, we asked for a donation to cover the cost for the food and the mixers and the clean up. And they just did, we just didn't ask them for a donation.

donation and they were fine with that you had a hundred couples now when you guys have parties like that when now that you guys play and you're still playing and stuff is are you always together when you play or can she go off and like fuck whoever she wants and you two like how do you guys roll in a situation like that i i have no problem if she were to go she likes to be together i don't i don't really in my heart of heart i don't know if it's because of the lack of ego she or the body positivity I would want her to have, but she prefers that we're a same-room couple. Right. Okay. Now, there has been a couple circumstances when we met with couples that, again, remember I told you

before? She liked the newer couples, the doctor-nating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the woman was afraid or didn't want, they were like we were, where it's a, I think they call it soft swap, where women stay with women, play with women and guys stay with their own mate. If a woman was particularly shy, then she would go in the room with the female alone while the guys were outside. Ears pressed to the door. Trying to listen to what's going on. But, you know, that's that. That was a disadvantage for me.

The advantage was she would tell me the story later on about what they did. And I would just get, I was quite, quite happy with that. Right. So she only would play with women solo. Yes. Yes, yes. She's never indicated an interest in being with anybody without me there. Now, all of our experiences haven't been great. So we've met, we've had some situations where guys had been pushy. And she was always afraid she was going to run into that in the bedroom.

So those guys don't even get even close to the bedroom, right? No. No, no, no. And if you're at, if we're at our party and you were at our party and that would happen, you'd be at the least. You know, I think this kind of information is helpful. to couples too because it gives, it's like etiquette. What is that etiquette? How do you get that couple to feel comfortable with you? I think that most people tell me, you always go through the woman.

She's the one that makes the rules, right? Always. Yeah. Always. And for most couples, that usually turns out good. So what are the things that people do that turns out bad? What are the things that you would say, hey, if you want to get into this world and you want to be a swinger, like what are the things that you should not do?

Be pushy. First and foremost, make sure your pitchers, and this is for couples who aren't certified. Like I said, we had a great, great advantage being able to do that. Look like your pitchers. Yeah, okay. Don't take pictures 10 years ago or 50 pounds ago. Secondly, it would be hygiene. And thirdly, I would say, let the woman take the lead, which more often than not,

that's what we found is some husbands might pressure the woman into doing this, and she really wasn't ready or they hadn't talked about it enough. And the guy would, three minutes after sitting down, the guy would say, well, we're ready to go to the bedroom. How about you? And my wife would look at the woman and just see the anxiousness in her eyes. And she'd be like, no, I don't think we're ready. She put it on her.

I don't think we're ready. And if she was real attractive to that woman, she'd make it a point to talk to that woman before the night and go, hey, you're okay? Is this something you're really into? A couple of times she heard, no, not really. I'm doing this because my husband wants to do it. do it. No. So that was just her way of freeing a woman up having to do something she didn't want to do.

Right, because she's a woman and she could get where that girl's coming from. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I will tell you, we've been fooled a couple times because we'd read certifications on some couples. And we never looked for, well, his dick was big or pussy was juicy or kids were wonderful. We look for how do they act in a social scenario. And sometimes they'd have certifications say, beautiful couple saw him at a party talk for a little while look forward to playing with them that's a certification but we got fooled and you'd have some couples that come to the party and you kind of weren't like your certification so after the party we just remove them from the group just that simple you don't go no longer time do you guys have a type or you just like into a vibe of people

dark-haired women for my wife he loves latina's dark-haired women yeah i like him with a pulse. That's what women don't understand. That's how guys are. Your wife doesn't understand that. And before, if we were to meet somebody in a party, how you interact with her determines her type. But she's never really had a huge thing for blondes.

But that's just what I've seen. But if there's a blonde who comes up to my wife and says, you're the most beautiful girl you've ever seen, that's about to be her type, really. really so right and does she have a body type when it comes to women is she like a tit girl an ass girl tits absolutely tits and clean and clean and shaving right she absolutely love that she doesn't want to see landing strips or or anything down there so paint the picture of your wife since you're not going to be able to send me anonymous picks of her for my patreon because you said she doesn't like her picks out there or anything like paint her picture what does she look like and what's her body like

I guess you a five foot two, um, a hundred and probably 27, 28 pounds. Three, three daughters and her tits are still like a 17 year old. She's probably not got the same shape she had when she was 21, but her butt is still very firm.

She's got a nice Italian ass. Stays clean shaven all the time. Loves her petties and loves her manicures, which would be a huge turnoff for her. If you've got stubbly fingertips or ugly-looking toes, they're on the toe, I don't care what's. happened you're not going near her yeah yeah uh which i i i find it attracted as well but uh listen

she's not asking for anything that she's not bringing to the table she yeah i mean that's what she's coming to the table with she's well taken care of she take you right she wants the same absolutely i i primp and and and spoil her as much as i can with anything she wants to do with her beauty you want to go to allton spend 200 bucks go to allton spend 200 bucks right you want to go get a full body massage and have a spot day, just put it on the car. Let me ask you this because so many women go through menopause and I have so many guys calling in and even women as well, they lose their sex drive. That happens to women. Now, I've heard and I think it's very true. If you don't lose it, you use it. So if you do, so the opposite is true, right? If you keep using it, you don't lose it.

So I'm wondering with your wife because you guys are always swinging your highly sexualized beings. You're in this world. You're fucking all the time. You're saying you're doing it like every weekend. Like when she got to that point where she was going through menopause, did she ever lose it? Or did she never lose it like most people do? What happened to her? She never, she never lost it. The only thing I can say is she was never, she was always aggressive with me. It'd be seven o'clock at night and say, hey, eat a good dinner because you're going to need the energy in bed tonight. But that slowed down. She would wait for me to make the customary first move, even as a couple.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as wetness or arousability, no. See, I've been very lucky as far as that goes. I think it's because, like, you guys were just always having sex and you just never took that break. And I think what happens to couples, listen, you think about you guys as a couple compared to a vanilla couple. A vanilla couple are only fucking each other, right?

So 20, 30, 40 years later, they're not doing it all the time. They're not doing it even probably every weekend, right? Maybe once a week if they're lucky. And then the woman starts to go through menopause. It's like a snowball effect. It's not just one thing. It's not just, oh, you lose your hormones and you don't have it. It's like most women at this point aren't banging their husbands anyway on a regular basis

because they've been with them so long, right? They don't have that connection. The chemistry isn't there anyway. So then they lose their hormones. So then they're so far away from where they were that they totally lose it, right? You guys were so different because you guys have not only been fucking each other, but even fucking other people since the dawn of time, right? So you never lost that spark.

You never slowed down. So even though she lost all her hormones like everybody else, she's still getting as wet. She's still having these orgasms that you're bragging about. So it really does show that it's not just the loss of hormones. I think, like I said, it's everything that goes together. But because you guys are so specific and live this. alternative lifestyle. She had a very different menopausal experience. Absolutely. And I don't know if that's

tied to diet. I'm not that familiar with that. I also know that some women after after menopause become much more freer in bed because there's no risk of pregnancy. They're 45, 55 or 65, depending on what age they get them. Yeah. It frees them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I've heard that too. Yeah, 100%. I just don't think that that's the norm. You know what I mean? But I think those kinds of stories are always super helpful for women that have hurt or maybe not at menopause yet and are afraid they're going to go through it or women that are right there. These are, it doesn't necessarily have to happen where you lose all feeling and lose all interest in sex. So I think that that's always like great. Like your wife is like such a great example because she's not on hormone replacement. Right. Like she never took any hormones. Oh, no, never took a thing. Never took a thing. Yeah, yeah.

See, and it is. Yeah, we got some vanilla friends who, you know, and my wife will also talk with them about when they're going through menopause. And they'll tell us right in front of their husbands. Now, he's going to stay the fuck away from me. Don't come to me. Don't come here. Yeah. Really?

Really? Wow. Yeah. You know, your wife's lucky. When I was going through peri menopause, I was like, oh, my God, I was like the peri phyphalas. fucking menopause. And I'm like, oh, that's a really good good title for a book. So then I decided to write a book and I got a doctor to write it with me.

I never, I don't know, the doctor was such a pain in the ass. She cock blocked every publisher to publish it. But anyway, my whole point was that when I talked to her and she started to really give me all the reasons for it, and she talked a lot about like, it's not just the hormones. You put everything together. It's the whole

fucking shebang. Right. And it's a recipe for disaster in that like I said, that woman, that vanilla couple isn't banging her husband anymore anyway. And so if you don't use it, you lose it. But if you do, you're good to go. So it's a very different experience for you guys. So I do think, you know, your wife doesn't, didn't have that. But she's that example for what the doctor was kind of telling me. It's not just the hormones. Like if you changed all those things and you were having sex like you guys were and you still were really into your husband, like a lot of women aren't when they get into their 50s. They can't fucking stand their husbands. they've been with them since the dawn of time and they're like fucking get away right do you know what i mean it's all of that it's everything together right yeah yeah i've been lucky in in regards that i never really had that evidence show itself no i love you i love you guys as a couple i love how into your fucking girl you are like i said i think she was very lucky to find you because she had all these insecurities and all you ever did was make her feel fucking good about herself and not for any other reason then you just are fucking into her Like it's great. Everybody wants that guy. You guys have a great relationship. I love your story. You've been swinging since the 80s. I mean, that's not a lot of people weren't doing that back then, especially people in their 20s. So I think you were very bold to do that at such early, at such an early age. And the fact that you kept with it, even through kids and all that kind of stuff. I've heard every kind of story out there. And a lot of times these stories don't end with. We're still doing this at 60.

I know she had a medical thing, whatever, that happens. But the fact that you're still as enthusiastic about her, you still are going out, you're still doing what you're doing since you're in your 20s is a great story. It's a great example of what it can be for people. Well, yeah, it is. And again, I'm lucky, but it also looks notwithstanding. They fade over time. Desires fade over time.

I mean, we're not going at it every day like we did when we were younger. Of course, yeah. It starts with. with her being my best friend. Yeah. And me being her. And there's not a thing. She could tell me tomorrow, hey, I want to fuck a transsexual.

And I'd be, okay, let's. Or, hey, I want to start a business. She can tell me anything. And I've got a small business going on that I, every once in a while, I have some risk to take. And I've got friends who will say, oh, this is what you need to do. This is what you need to do. No, no, no, let me go talk to Marie.

Marie will tell me what to do. She'll tell me. She's always got my best interest in her. it hurts and I certainly always have hers. So that's it really does start with a friendship. Yeah, and that's also why this isn't a swinger's gone wrong story. I mean, you guys have a very solid foundation. And I love to show every kind of story.

I like to show a swinger's gone wrong story because I think that's super helpful to show people what not to do. But I also love to show a story like this that shows that, listen, if you have a really solid foundation and you really have intense love for each other, you can't go fuck other people. It doesn't mean you don't love each other. I can't tell you how many times I see comments. like, oh, no man would let his wife fuck someone else if he loved her or their marriage is going to go to shit because they're fucking other people. And I'm like, oh, my God, I've had so many people on my show that would prove you wrong. And typically, the people that are successful are like you.

They just love each other. They're like best fucking friends. Like, nothing's changing that. So who cares if you fuck other people? It has nothing to do with your emotional connection, which is rock solid. And that's what you need. And that's what's super important. And that's what makes you guys successful.

Absolutely. Yeah. I love it. I love your story. I love your wife. I wish she would come on, but I totally respect the fact that she's private and won't. Let her listen to this episode. Give her a shout out.

She's a, she's a menopause survivor. I don't know. She should be like an Olympic menopausal woman. I don't know. She's a good example for women that they don't have to have such a hard time with it. But anyway, thanks so much for calling in, Mark, and sharing your story. Loved it. I appreciate that.

And if you ever, if you ever want to hear anything else, from us, just send me an email. I'd be glad to talk to you again. I'm very, very flattered you had me on your show. I love it. Try and get your wife. Maybe if she listens to it and she gets my vibe, she will, she'll be into calling. I don't know. I love you to have your wife on. She's interesting to me. Never listening to the podcast and we'll go from there. Okay, cool. Awesome. You're the best. Thank you so much for calling it and sharing your story. It'll be up soon. It'll be up soon, Mark, okay? Oh, very good. I'll look forward to it. Awesome. Bye. Bye-bye.

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