Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 679 - GIRL TALK: Wyoh Lee on Spanking Hookups, Open Relationships, Cuckqueaning and More

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

Wyoh Lee, host of the Sex Stories podcast called in to talk all about spanking hookups, open relationships, cuckqueaning and more. Tune in to hear all about her recent "spanking skirt" hook up with her dom and exactly what went down, how and why a bj is sometimes all she needs to get off, her phone sex experiences including the caller who was into being trampled, , her masturbation vacation and why it was a fail, the porn she likes to watch and how and why she now is going to create her own porn, regular porn vs. Onlyfans porn and why Onlyfans is better, the type of open relationship she’s down for and how it would be best set up, the open relationship with he spanking buddy and how and why she enjoys hearing about his experiences with other women, her and Kathy's specific hot cuckquean fantasies they think she be made into porn, her humiliation cuckquean fantasies plus a whole lot more. You can find her podcast here: https://apple.co/3KVLkPD **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I wanted to tell you, oh, I forgot to say if you're listening like on a podcast app, make sure to subscribe to my show. and I'm really trying to get over a thousand reviews in my podcast. I never really ask or beg for reviews because I don't really like to ask or beg for anything. I get a million emails a day. Like, oh my God, I love your show and DMs. I love your show. And I should say to every single person like, can you go write me a nice review?

Because like happy people don't tend to go and write reviews. It's always like sort of like the trolls, you know. But I mean, a lot of, I do get a lot of nice reviews from people. But I would like to get over a thousand reviews. I have way more. I have like hundreds of thousands of people that are listening to my show. So where are all the good reviews? I want to hit over a thousand.

I'm at like 820, so I just need 180. There's way more than 180 people listening to my show. So if you do love my show, do me that favor and just hit me up with a nice comment in the comment section on iTunes. It really does help the show. And like I said, I want to break a thousand. Okay, it's about fucking time. So anyway, today I have on again, Waioli. Wiley is a podcast host of her own show called Sex Story.

She does exactly like what I do. But she also is into all kinds of things when it comes to sex and she's checking things off her bucket list and she wanted to come on my show a bunch of times and talk about it and have me hold her accountable to do all the things that she talks about. So she's been on before talking about how she wants to take a masturbation vacation and she wanted to buy a spanking skirt

and she talked about this guy that she's been seeing. It's like her Dom guy. And she came back on to give an update. So she did go on her masturbation vacation. She talks about that. She talks about buying her spanking skirt and exactly what went down when she met her spanking buddy. It was a guy that she is with.

They have a very open kind of relationship. We talk about relationships and what kind of open relationship she's into. She's very much into like the cuckled thing. Like she's a cuck queen like I am. We do end this call with a whole half hour. about cuck queen porn we give our fantasies it's super hot i put it at the end of another episode i don't think a lot of people listen to it so i put it at the end of this one too so if you didn't hear it you're gonna fucking love it okay about 30 minutes in you're gonna hear me and wio talking all about our

cut queen fantasies and you're going to be totally into that but before that she's gonna get us all up to speed on what she did like i said she did a spanking session with her guy she did a masturbation vacation. We talk about the type of relationship she would like to be in ultimately as well as, like I said, the relationship she's in with her spanking buddy. It's very open. She loves hearing about him being with other women and she gets hardcore into all of that. And then we talk about our cock queen fantasies. And they're very good. Like I said that, I told you that like 10 times on this intro, right? But they really are. You're going to enjoy it. I think I have a good imagination. So that's about 30 minutes in. If you listen to it before, that's a very good. That's

repeat but it runs seamlessly with this conversation so it's perfect you're going to live the whole conversation whyo has her own podcast like i said it's called sex stories i'll put a link to it in the description but anyway i'm going to be right back on with wya hi wyo lee welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast you come on for some girl talk episodes we're following your sex bucket list journey right and if people haven't heard your first episode they should listen to it because you were on before talking about all the things you wanted to check off, including like you wanted one weekend where you were just going to masturbate, only masturbate, the opposite of no fap, which means no masturbation. All you were going to do is fucking masturbate all weekend, report back. So why don't you go through your list and tell me what the fuck went down since we last spoke? Okay. So since we last spoke, the spanking skirt was a great success. Phone sex has been incredibly fun. My fetish research is ongoing and I want to clarify a couple points about that when we talk. My new flogger. set is amazing. I'm getting good. I have the two-handed, like I'm practicing my Florentine flogging,

practicing on a stool currently. But I'm ready for butts. Like, I'm ready for humans. And then I've been doing sex stories in the park. That is super duper fun. I did an attempt at my masturbation vacation, but we're going to need another one. I'll tell you why. And then I got some, like, incredible inspiration from Layla, because I was telling her about killing kittens and how we were talking about her. And then that just, like, spiraled into future bucket list things. So that, was like the most exciting stuff. And then I have some stuff for the future that I'm noodling on that I would like to get your opinions on in terms of where I point my energy next. Okay. So that's Layla from Curious Girl Diaries. I forgot to say you're Wiley from Sex Stories

podcast. You do what I do on your show, interview people. But you also mentioned there that like you have done like live videos with people in the park. But do you want to start like, where do you want to start with your list? I want to start with a spanking skirt. It was so hot. So I got a listener recommendation for which skirt to buy because I was like researching. I went to a couple sex shops in person. You know, like I got my floggers in person. I do want to order some like nice artisan ones at some point. But I want to like meet the people.

Anyway, spanking skirt in the store. There was only one and it did not fit me. It was too big and it was like red leather. And so I ended up ordering this beautiful like stretchy. It's from Maison clothes, which I was a fancy lingerie brand. I had never heard of. But now I want way more things from there. So if anyone wants to send me presents, I will wear them and take pictures in them and share them with you.

But yeah, so the spanking skirt has a little hole cut out for the ass. So the ass cheeks come through. And I like sent a picture of it to my spanking lover. And he didn't like clock that it was a skirt. Like he was like, cute shorts. And so then when I saw him the next day, I just wore it under my like long overshirt thing. And it was discovered and very much appreciated. It was like, this is a great target.

He's like spanking. So that was super. fucking hot. I want to try it with thigh highs because it kept writing up a little bit, but I am fucking into it. And I want to wear it out in public. You know, we were kind of like sharing that fantasy of like, he was like, so you could be wearing this at dinner. And then I could just like, you know, I don't want to bench. Find a bench. Put you over my knee. So that was super fucking hot. Does that spanking session end with full on sex? Is that spanking like the foreplay and you get really hot for that and then you fuck with that skirt on? Like, how does that scenario end? Well, it depends. It depends

on the day. The thing that I adore about this lover is like, yes, we fuck, but also like P&V sex is not the main focus of our connection. Like, he thinks me a lot. It does, it turns me out, it makes me so wet. So I read a book recently called Sex and Shakespeare and this was just like maybe, I don't know, a month and a half ago. And I remember being like, huh, like, wow. So this is her whole sexuality. Like, it's this more so than that. And I'm like, I don't identify with that. However, I do get super fucking wet when I get spanked. And he gets hard and that's so hot. And I'm in a moment where I am loving blow jobs. And I don't know if it's because this person in particular, like, enjoys receiving them so much. So it feels extra good for me to give them. But sometimes it's

just, I mean, it's not just, but sometimes I'm so extremely satisfied by his cock in my mouth and he is spanking me, I don't even know configuration-wise, like, I don't know what's happening half the time. But I feel like when there is a cock in my mouth, I can take so many more spanks, so much harder for so much longer. And I really get off on having the bruises. Like, I don't

come from spanking. That's not the point for me, although I did talk to someone who has. So, yeah, so for me, it's part of the, like, oh, no, wow, that's a great question, Cassie. I don't know if it's foreplay or during play. Well, listen, I know that there is a whole other school of thought. And I'm on the other side of it, right? And I learn this by doing my show.

You take sides and I just love everything. Yeah. So we're different. That's why we're having this conversation. It's good to have two people that are different. Yeah. There's a lot of people that believe that, and I'm one of them, like I'm going to give you my standpoint first, like what group I'm a part of. The part where if I'm going to have sex, it has to end in an orgasm or I didn't finish the meal. It's kind of like you're hungry. You go out to dinner, but you didn't. and eat the food. That's how I always saw it until I started doing my show. And once I started doing my show, I talked to so many people, especially in that world that I think you exist in, which is the BDSM kink world, where that does not have to be a part of it. And they schooled me

on that and taught me and made me realize that a lot of times, it's like the guy that goes to the dungeon. He doesn't want to blow his nut there. He wants to live with that feeling even longer if he doesn't calm. That's what it's about. Because to me, I'm like, if you get so wet and you're getting spanked and you got his cock in your mouth and you're so horny and you can't calm from spanking, how are you not fucking put it in and, you know, get me over that mountain? You know what I mean? Like it would get me off. Oh, I do big. I mean, there's moments too where like I'll flip over or I'll like need his hands in my pussy. Like he's really good at fingering me too. And so like I love to have a cock in my mouth while that's happening. Like I love to steal kind of the loop. I also am such an experience oriented person.

I don't know. I come all the time at home. And I do come with him. It's just I'm not trying to get to the orgasm and I don't come from spanks. That spanking session that you just told me that you went over with the spanking skirt. He was like, what the fuck? That's so hot. He's spanking you. You're getting wet. I don't know if his dick was in your mouth. But I wanted to know, did you come at the end of that session? I don't know that I got the answer. Oh, I didn't come at the end. I came in the beginning middle, maybe. I don't know. I don't keep track of the timelines so specifically. But like, Yeah, he made me come first. My mouth was all over him. Okay. So there was like an orgasm in that scenario, but it wasn't from the spanking. It was maybe before or whatever. I was just wondering, because in the BDSM world, sometimes there isn't the orgasm.

It's kind of interesting to me because I always want the orgasm. So I was like, oh, are you just like getting spanked and leaving like soaking wet or having sex at the end because you're like dying for it? Because it's like the best for play ever. No, this one definitely wants to make me come. And sometimes I do prefer more edging or especially if it's like, you know, sometimes I don't want to have an oxytocin dump with a partner. And I'm just an experientialist too. So I like all of it. And I really love, I really get turned on by like adventure and the excitement of my partner.

Like I'm finding that is just the hottest thing for me. And so it's not about having like a deep personal emotional connection where we're going to put all our lives and finances together. But it's more about like, are we in sync right now? is this hot for both of us? And that is like what takes me to the next level and usually gets me closer to an orgasm, you know. But if I don't come during a session, then I'm definitely going to masturbate to it a lot later. Yeah, no, that's what I learned.

I mean, like I said, I always want to have an orgasm at the end and end it. But I did learn through doing my show, like I said, especially people in the BDSM world where that doesn't have to be the end all because sometimes when people are like telling me they're hot sex stories and then at the end, they're like, and I never have been able to orgasm. and I never orgasm with these people. I had a hot wife on once and she was like, and I never have orgasms with these guys.

I'm like, so why do you do it? But I've learned that for some people, it doesn't have to have an orgasm for it to be completely pleasurable. Yeah, it's all different things. My personal origin was like not having orgasms because I like didn't know how with a partner and I was too anxious.

And so I think I also just like have always gotten off on the whole, like if the whole experience is good. And again, I get a lot of people that are like, oh, they should always make you come. And I'm like, yes, do it. Yes. Yes. If that is what you want, you should definitely get that from your partners.

You should definitely communicate about it. It's not always like my top priority because I would rather just see what unfolds. This is also what I am loving about phone sex. Like it's so fun and just finding the overlap with the people at like, woof. You know, and that is not always about coming. Sometimes that's about edging. But then I'm in the more dominant role too. So I don't know if you have other spanking questions.

No, no, no. Go to phone sex. That was the perfect segue. Okay. So I actually haven't officially had regular phone sex. still. I had one brief video call. The person said the power went out. I think maybe someone walked in because they were talking very quietly anyway. So I never got to actually do the video call, but I've mostly on Sex Panther been exchanging like voice memos, photos, and videos with people.

And it has been so fucking hot to hear what people are into. I have trampled someone in fantasy. I have received lots of goddess worship. And then I've been asking people for like detailed tutorials about how they touch themselves because I love seeing how people touch themselves. So I've been getting like very specific videos and just like fun fantasy is like I was someone's wife and we, you know, there was a cuck fantasy happening and we couldn't let the conservative family find out they'd make us get divorced. You know, so it's been really fun and really playful. And like because I'm using the platform sex to panther because my one partner who's far away who I have a crush on, like we're not at the phone sex level yet. Like we haven't had regular sex yet. So I don't know how to initiate it.

Although I feel like that's a stepping stone I could do, but whatever, divine timing. It's been very interesting because people are more likely to reach out to me via text and then I'll respond. I love to use voice, photo and video. But I'm realizing for myself, like, I love having a good reason to engage with someone. And so if I don't know what they're into, I'm sort of like, uh, excuse me, I need to know something about you. I can get inspired very easily, but not by a vacuum, you know? So that's the part that I found very, very interesting about like engaging with people. and then just like once someone does share, I feel such a hot sense of permission to just play.

And it's been really, really fun. Like, and people, I love, like, they're so fun. They're so creative. So that's a line, though. Where could people find that? I feel like some guys are like, what? I could like, you know, call up and leave a message and tell her exactly what I fucking want.

And she's going to send me back picks and shit. Like, how do people get on that? Sex to Panther is the platform. So if you just go to sextpanther. com slash W-Y-O-H, like, Y-O, that's my profile. And so people add me. I'm still learning to use it. I'm only a couple weeks in and I haven't. I haven't been doing it every night, Kathy. I've been doing it sporadically because I really am not a schedules person other than

recordings. But yeah, anyone can sign up and so they pay me for a voice memo or a video or a call. Like it's hot. Like I think that's so hot because I've had so many experiences in my life where like I haven't felt appreciated or respected. And so to have people show up and clearly be like, hey, no, you're a goddess and I'll show you. You know, that's hot. I think that's hot. What have been the kinds of things that guys want? What's that you, like you said, goddess worship, which you love.

What is that? That's just them telling me how beautiful I am and what they would like to do to me, you know? Oh, I thought it's like a specific fantasy. I mean, for some people, I think in real life, it is. And, you know, it's definitely something that I've been exploring over the last year or two as I'm like, okay, I am practicing all of my receiving. Like some of the intro messages are such sweet. invitations and I found that it's also inspiring me to create better invitations for people.

Like getting a message from someone that's like, hello, you know, do you like to trample weak, pathetic men? And I'm like, as a matter of fact, I do. You know, especially when they deserve it. Like, yes. You know, and then finding ways to get more information in character, like in that role play. Had someone else be like, hey, babe, like, you know, do you want to do a roleplay fantasy? Which I love that explicit communication out loud of like, hey, I'm acknowledging this is role play fantasy where you know we're high school sweethearts and we're married but like you fuck so many other dudes and I get so jealous and so I was like babe I love it when you pretend to be a stranger you know like it's just so fun because I haven't had very many playful partners in the realm of roleplay

like I've initiated in the past and my early experiences really got shot down and so this feels like liberating and healing and I'm also great you know I'm grateful that in real life I have a couple of play partners who are adventurous and it's a little like yes there's a little dynamic but it's a little more like you know not formal role play not formal BDSM just like down to go for adventure but I'm just realizing I love playful people who are like in touch with their sexy parts and does it turn you on oh yeah yeah yeah that's interesting for the guys you know what I mean or even if it's women I don't know if it's men and women but I mean for someone to know that this is something that you're doing and it really turns you on I think that that's always the best but I've noticed that

societally there seems to be a pattern where when a woman likes sex a lot, we devalue her unless she's like, nope, I'm a goddess. Pay me. And so I'm working my way into that. And yeah. And so that's, okay, so I should update you on the masturbation vacation. Oh my God, but I know it's a fail already. Like, how do you not masturbate? Did you not masturbate for all weekend? Did you? I didn't record anything. I like aroused myself a lot. I ended up only doing one night because the Airbnb that I like had my heart set on only had one night available in all of July. And I was like, what? So I have to really, like, plan in advance. So I think this is helpful. So I'm going to get something on the books for the next few weeks after we talk. I ended up feeling nauseous, like, once I got that.

Like, I don't know if it was something I ate. I don't know if it, like, I drank a lot of water. You know, like, I was in the desert. I went to Joshua Tree. So I took that as an opportunity. You know, I did some photo shoots and I just sort of like let myself chill for a night. There was a beautiful pool. There was a beautiful hot tub. Like, I just enjoyed myself. and like let myself kind of take it easy. And so it was a huge turn on and a very good practice and did not achieve my goal. And it just makes me want to go back with a lover. And I was telling Layla, she's like, no, you need three nights total and they can come in

the middle night, but then you need your solo time before and you need integration time after. And I got really turned on by that and called it a fuck sandwich. And so like I've just been dreaming about like doing Layla fuck sandwiches like once a month or every other month and then, you know, at some point she and I also have decided that we are going to like meet up somewhere at an Airbnb and watch a bunch of ethical porn because we're both like, we need to research more porn. You know, like I've been watching the porn of my friends who have been interviewing and like learning more about that world. And she got really excited when I was like, maybe you could help make slutty content of me. Yeah. So we're talking about like her kind of directing me in future stuff and would you give us recommendations for porn to watch? Yeah. I mean like, You mean what kinds I like and stuff? I mean, you know, I don't know. Like, I'm not one nowadays. Porn is so different than when I grow up.

It's kind of like you never look at the same thing again. And it's kind of like the way the wind blows, like what I'm into. And maybe you just go and you just want a quickie. I mean, I use porn when I just want a quickie. And there's all different types of things that I'm into depending on the day. You know what I mean? It could be so many different things. So it's hard to recommend.

It's like saying what, you know, if we want to go eat. food three nights from now. I'm like, ask me that day what I want because I might feel like Mexican today, but three days later, I want sushi. I don't know until that time. You know what I mean? No, but both Layla and I were like, where do we start? We need to research. You know, because I've, again, I've just been hit on. Just go on Pornhub. I know. Well, that's, so that's the thing. It's like, I want to know that the person is getting paid for it, that it was consensual, that it's, you know, porn hub is of legal age. But like, I want to know that it's kind of like benefiting the models and performers. So we're looking at a lot more like indie stuff or stuff produced by these

different places. Right. That's the ethical part of it. Yeah, that's what I was confused about, like what that meant to you guys and what that conversation was about. Mm-hmm. That's, of course, that stuff is important. Yeah. So for me, going on Pornhub for the last, I don't know, decade, I don't really do it because it puts me in producer brain when the content is medium or not good, you know, and I just think, like, I just literally go into producer director mode and that's not hot for me. And I'm not a person that's like, oh, amateur stuff only. I'm not like that at all. I have a lot of friends who are professionals, but it's like beyond watching their stuff,

I'm like, okay, what next? You know, like, and do I want to watch only mainstream stuff? And like, what is, you know, so it's funny, though, because I was just talking to someone who did a private call with me and he was like, you just overcomplicate things, though. I was like, well, I hear that. I hear that a lot. I heard that from people. I don't know how to help my brain filter better.

other than by doing this, you know, other than by, like, who fucking have a bucket list with over 400 and something erotic items on it and can't, like, decide which way to start? Like, I clearly have an issue filtering, right? Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So I would assume porn hub then would be way too much information, right? Because there's so many different things. I feel like when I'm Googling porn or I want to get myself off and it's a quickie kind of thing.

I do find that. I will just go through my brain. Think about what's the thing that's like the biggest turn on to me right now. today in this moment and then Google that, look for the hottest looking thing and then play it and then maybe five videos later I'll get it and be done with it kind of thing, quick. But I'm very specific. I used to say I'm like oddly specific. Like right now I can tell you exactly what I'm into right now.

Like I'm specific like that. So that's what I'll do. I'll just go. And so nothing else will really be that interesting to me. But I think that that's the problem with porn though nowadays is there is too much. Back in my day, you didn't live in my time. it was so much hotter because literally you would find your friend stash of porn or you would get one porno like a year and you would just live off of that and it was like the top of the fucking mountain

every time because it wasn't available and you'll never get that experience nowadays because you're just inundated and there's so much of it and it's so easily accessible whereas like when I was younger it really wasn't so it was hotter in a way and I think that only fans is definitely changing the porn game and I think it's changing it for the better because a lot of people that I have on my show who are doing OnlyFans now are real people that are getting off on people watching them, that are getting off on like what you're getting off on like turning guys on, letting them watch them, getting off on them.

That's the real deal. That's what everyone's going to porn for, right? They just want to see real people who love sex. And a lot of times that's not happening in porn. Whereas on OnlyFans, I think there's just a lot of content creators that are creating that amateur stuff that we all wanted. I know that's what I always wanted. I don't want to see a girl who's dry and who's faking an orgasm. I want to see a real orgasm, a real wet person. You know what I mean? I want to see the real deal. And I think that what's killer about Onlyfans is you could find those people out

there that are really doing it because they fucking love it. Yeah. Well, and every time I interview like a hot wife or a couple, I'm like, damn, they exist. I need a stag. I need a cook. I need, you know, I need someone who like wants to go share me and like organize those things and like runs the content channel that would be so fucking hot would that be your setup in a relationship if you met the guy of your dreams tomorrow that you really wanted to have a relationship with what kind of relationship would you set up i don't know that i've ever asked you that question sorry to take you off your bucket list would you be in a situation of an open relationship and how would that look for you absolutely open relationship i am not monogamous unless i've been thinking about this the way that i would

consider monogamy currently is if someone wanted to marry me for a set amount of time. And I knew like what, you know, I knew what I was going to get in the divorce. We had a project-based marriage for a certain number of weeks or months or year. You know, I think I would go up to, for a first one, I would do like a year at a time if I really liked them already. But other than that, I'm not monogamous. And I think even in a monogamous relationship, I would need like an extreme hall pass situation in case a really beautiful opportunity bloomed in front of me. All right. Forget about monogamy though so you're in a non monogamous relationship how does that look like how is that set up you do you solo play do you play together all of the above like how would you like to do you like to have your

partner go fuck other women do you want to fuck other guys all of the above like what exactly in the open relationship when you are all of that so here's the thing i have been warned strongly by my sex worker friends of like don't look for that that will attract people who want to take advantage of you, you know, and at the same time, how can I help but be, like, totally obsessed with my porn star friends' husbands who, like, bring them food and encourage them and then, like, reclaim them after shoot and or help them organize stuff and or, like, just, like, get turned on by their porn and or participate and or sit there and watch, you know, like, Jay is so hot, like that set up.

Oh. Oh, the guy that has a hot wife and he was a bull. and now he's a stag? Yeah, but he has like tendencies of cuck. Like for me, a guy or girl who has dominant tendencies and is a sharer and at the end of the day, like wants me to be theirs, like is the person that's going to reclaim me, that is the hottest. I would love to date a person who is pansexual. I have a big fantasy about also just being like a regular third of a couple because I have a lot of fear

around getting crowded and suffocated and I just haven't had an experience with a romantic relationship that makes any logical sense to keep one in my life regularly. You know, like I'm like add value though, beyond fucking. Like I now have other ways to like fuck, but that used to be my kind of like impetus for getting into a relationship. And I only have had two boyfriends, one girlfriend who had a husband and a master. So like it takes a lot to trick me into a relationship. I've never gotten into a relationship on purpose. I'm still learning to be in that position of power. But I, love to be like the sluttiest slut that like is you know the secret whore like my spanks partner right now fucks other ladies and I love hearing about it and that's brand brand new for him and I'm just like

I don't get a lot of details but I really really get off on that so I'm actually in the perfect relationship like non-relationship with my spanks buddy because it's I get summoned you know we have enough trust but I feel really good about just getting summoned when I am desired and we have set that up explicitly. Like there's a lot of respect. I grow so much. I learn so much and we just have that kind of like mutual desire. So I am also dating a couple of people, but I've been introduced for the first time in my life. Like friends are introduced, friends and lovers. Like this is the hottest kink I think I've unlocked in the last couple weeks. A lover introducing me to someone I might date or fuck. That's so hot to me. So I, that's when I'm like, oh,

shoot, I really got a cook thing. That's a perfect way to get set up. Right. because they know you. Yeah. Pimp you out because they know you and they know the other person. But listen, I wanted to talk further about porn and porn for females because there is like a niche. Is that the right way to say it or niche? Yeah. People say it both ways.

Okay. I say niche. I like niche. Me too. There's a niche that is there that has not been filled and that is cuck queen porn. When I put out my cuck queen episode, Phoebe is a cuck queen. I got so many emails from women. And it's also highly downloaded by men, okay?

Like, and I feel like there's a real need for more cuck queen porn. Now, my audience knows that if I have any kink that I figured out through doing my show, it's that I'm a cuck queen. I like, I like, I like that. And I was like, oh, my God, when she was talking about making porn, I was like, you got to do cuck queen porn. And I told her. And then I had some ideas.

And I'm like, oh, I'm going to get WIO on and we're going to talk about some hot cuck queen porn. Because, listen, first of all, it's, it's first and foremost for, me why there needs to be created more is because it's for women. Women that are into that fantasy can't go find that, right? Like it's just not there. I've looked. So they need more cuck queen fantasy porn. And besides being for women, the second thing is like guys would fucking love it. I'm going to tell you my hot scenario that I think she should do. And I'm going to have to email her and tell her to listen to this and make it. And you're going to get turned on by it because you're a little cuck queen, right? And you're going to tell me your ideas. But guys are going to be

fucking turned on by it too, right? I mean, it's all they have, if you put in cuckold or whatever, you're going to find all the guys like doing shit. And when I say cuck queen, it doesn't have to be a hardcore humiliation, right? We're not talking about that, but you could go to that extreme. I find most cuckolds and cuck queens and the whole in the whole cuck world. I feel like the majority aren't at like on that end of the spectrum where they need the intense humiliation. There's some slightness, right? But the majority just likes the fact of seeing their

partner with somebody else, right? That's the, so hot. That's a hot scenario. So I'm going to tell you my hot scenario. My listeners are going to love it. My little cucklings are going to be like, oh my God, I'd fucking watch that. And the guys are going to be like, I'd fucking do that. Okay. And then you're going to have to give me one too. And then we're going to have to tell Lily, okay, to listen and make it for Afterglow. Okay? Yeah. So, because she's got the, she could do that, right? I can't do it. I just have the idea. So this is a fantasy I thought of recently. I don't know. Have you ever been in a hotel room and heard people like through the next room having sex? Oh, yes, I have as a matter of fact just last night. You're kidding. When you were saying that it was loud in your hotel, it was like loud with sex? Well, I could hear outside on the street a lot of stuff happening. But when I went over to buy the window, I could hear voices. in the next room and it was definitely people getting on up.

I could hear the man's voice being like, baby, baby. And then I heard noises. Oh, okay. Did you hear moaning? Okay, right. So now, did you ever hear it and get turned on by it? It's a turn on, right? Yes.

It's super hot. Yeah. Yeah, I've never heard gross sex through a hotel wall so far. I don't, listen, it hasn't happened to me often, okay, for some reason. And I think because I'm always, I'm such a picky person when it comes to sound that I'm always like, put me in the corner away from everybody on the top. I don't know. I think I'm always very lucky where I don't hear shit, okay?

But there was a time when I was in a hotel and I heard the people like fucking next me. It was like straight up moaning, a lot of moaning. And it was like, it made me super horny, okay? And like that I had to take care of myself. Which never happened for me. And I was like, oh, that's really hot. And then I started recently when I was like trying to think of a hot fantasy. I was like thinking about that experience.

But I was thinking like, wouldn't it be really hot if the cuck queen, girl would set it up where her and her guy go to a hotel, right? And they get two rooms right next to each other, right? And then he goes down to the bar. Somehow he meets a fucking hot girl, right, that he's going to fuck. And she has no idea that he's got a girl in the other room. She's not in the know. She just thinks she's having a hot hotel hookup with a stranger she met at a bar, right? He brings her up. Now, I've thought of two different ways. Like he could either have the phone, pretend that the phone is off, right? And the phone is being called into my room so I could hear everything.

But he brings her in and he fucks the shit of her in the room while you're listening. Okay. And then he comes in and he fucks you. I think that that's like a really hot scenario, right? Because you know, you know that he's in there. It's your guy and he's fucking that girl. And you could hear everything that's going on. And then when she leaves, they're all done.

And he comes in and he fucks you. and I think that's super hot. That's so hot. It is, right? That's super hot. Isn't that a good porn? Yeah. Right?

Especially if you have a set where you can float back and forth between the two rooms, like visually. Oh, it's so hot. Exactly. I mean, and I just think, listen, if you're a cuck queen, you could live that out in real life. I was like, why could you not live that out in real life? I have guys, listen, I have cuckolds that come onto my show that tell me stories,

and they're setting up shit like this all the time. I have hot wives that have gone out, picked up guys, brought them to hotel rooms. I have this one in particular. This was the scenario. And his girl would go out with her girlfriend and they would bring guys back, fuck them in hotel rooms and she would call him on the phone so he could hear everything that was going on. And then he'd come home and tell her. So this, I think, is even better because you don't even need really to call on the phone, right?

Because they're right in the door next to you. So to me not being able to really see it, but hear it is like the torture foreplay that I think I would love. It's kind of like tease and then he kind of fucks the shit of you. So I thought that was like really hot. I'm like, I have to tell Lily about that because there need more fantasies like that. You don't find porn where the girl's guy is fucking somebody else and she's into it.

It's like threesome stuff. But it has to, like to me, Cuck Queen takes it like one step further where it's kind of like the cheating thing or he's not with you. He's doing it separate and then comes and tells you about it kind of thing. Right? You're a cuck queen. in real life, right?

I mean, you've had these scenarios with guys. I've had these scenarios. I don't know if I'm a queen, Kathy. I think you're more powerful. I am definitely a cucked slut. It's the same shit. No, because I'm in the more submissive role. And I do get a little bit off on the degradation aspect.

So I've been in a cage watching my partner fuck someone across the room. Oh, I don't know. So that makes you, no, that makes me just a cuck. And that makes you the cuck queen. What are you kidding? That's the true cuckold. You're the true. That's the queen position.

Is that the queen? Yeah, because I think, yes, absolutely. Because the cuckold thing, you know, typically has that humiliation apartment. Like I said, I get more people on my show that that's not a big part of it, but then I have the truest cucks of them all that it is. So to me, that's top of the mountain, you're the fucking queen. Because you, and that's interesting that I'm so glad you brought this up, that you do even like that part of it.

And there needs to be porn for the girls like you because that is a part of a cuck experience typically, for sure. Well, and I have a partner right now who, like, is fucking other chicks and I fucking love hearing about it. But so far, they're all shy. So there's not a scenario where I could watch yet. And, of course, a lot of dudes want to turn that stuff into threesome and I'm a willing participant. But I, like, love the idea also of just, like, being in a cage under the bed or over the bed, you know, somewhere kind of hidden in the closet. Oh, my God. That's the guy.

Yeah, that's the guy. You know how many times I've heard the cuck in the closet watching in the bull? I've had so many, oh my God, I need to send you this one guy. And you could have run a show, what your show. His name was Jerome. And he was like a full-time, very professional bull. And he had the fucking funniest stories of following around, like the cuck following him around on the corner peering. And he would just talk about like how he just like almost couldn't like focus because it's just so funny to have this guy like in the closet looking out of the thing and doing all the stuff that you just talked about.

But that is a part. of the cuck experience and they need to make that as well for women. So listen up Lily or anyone making porn. So what's your real cuck queen scenario? Oh, well okay, the version today that's

coming to mind is yeah, if I was somehow restrained like on a nice chair or something or really just I could be like by the curtain, maybe not in the closet, but like by the curtain of the nice hotel room just like kind of watching. And I think I actually also am really

turned on by the idea of the other woman knowing that I, ooh, or even man, I could definitely go queer with this fantasy. Yeah. But the other person knowing, like, that I was there and wasn't going to be allowed to like fuck for a while. And I love the idea, too, for me of working edging into it for a day. So maybe they don't fuck me right after. They make me wait a day or a night or whatever. Because I get, I so get off on the like arousal of the turnout. Like today, I haven't come for three days because my Spank's partner was like, I was naughty and did a fantasy without asking permission. And so now I'm like, can I come? Can I come? And we're far apart. But he's like, no. Oh, you're in a little dom sub position, relationship with this guy. Kind of. Kind of. Just just a loose

one. If it's a fun, playful thing. But if I break it, I get to be naughty and then I get punished. But so I love the idea of being told to edge myself while watching, but not being allowed to come. You know, so maybe I'm behind the curtain or tied to a chair or I also in, if I go like big on the fantasy scenario and have a set, I love the idea of maybe I'm in some sort of like throne situation up above that looks over the bed. And I'm imagining like a big sex palace type set. Oh my God. I hate that kind of porn. It's just so unrealistic. Just make it like a regular hotel room.

I wasn't even thinking about it as a porn. It's like a movie. It's like Games of Thrones, cuck queen style. I was like too much. Or just or even somewhere where it's, but I just like the idea of having a visual where I can look down upon them or be a little far away. So that's why like the curtain. That's why I love.

I mean, the closet is hot for like the closet fantasy I have is I have a friend. We're not in a sexual dynamic, but she, I'm very attracted to her, but she's like not interested in me that way. But she has a partner who says hilarious things when he gets really turned on. and she's told me about some of the stuff that he says that's like very specific to her and very just like funny and I'm like god damn it I want to be in the closet like listening to that because it's silly but it would also really turn me on oh my god that's funny so it's like what you hear too is a turn on for you and i think that that could be a part of a hot porn too you know what i mean because it's like those not that naughty fantasy and and what's interesting about that porn scenario would be that you and the girl are in cahoots not you and the guy right it's not your guy it's your girl friend. That's a hot one. Okay, so it's your girlfriend. Yeah, every time to hang out, I'm like, please, can I come be in your closet this time? She's, no, what if you sneeze? What if you this? What do you do that? And I was like,

I just want to hear so bad. And she's maybe I'll secretly record one and like just let you listen, but never. Like she, you know, she's very protective of his privacy, obviously. But I'm just like, I just want to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what is good about porn. And I think that's why fantasies always work too because a situation like that you can't do in real life because this girl's not gonna like fucking lie. her guy and do something that's not consensual. That's fucked up, right? But that's why porn is always great because you could set it up and mock it up and it's fucking hot and nobody's getting in trouble, right? But I love this porn like you and your girlfriend.

She's telling you about her guy and how good he is in bed. I don't need the funny things. I don't know. That's not like hot to most people. In the porn version, I think he would be saying hot things. Yes, yes. Making hot noises. In real life, though, I'm just curious and it sounds silly.

I also think like having a camera of me or whoever, the performer in the closet, like getting on edging and stuff, like touching, touching myself while like listening to that. I think that would be like a hot. Yeah, that's the whole. That's the porn. So when your girlfriend are talking, she's always telling you about her guy and how he fucks her really good. And you guys set it up where she's going to fuck him and you're going to watch. But you're going to be hiding. And he doesn't know and you're in there and you could play with yourself or whatever.

I think that's a hot scenario. That's a hot porn scenario. So can I add to that? Can I add to that? Oh my God, let's hear the crazy thing you're going to add. Oh, my God. You're thrown in the sky.

It was the dumbest thing I ever heard. Oh, my God. Let's see where you're going to go. I need to reel you in. I need to reel you in. If you ever start to make porn, please have me come in and edit for you. Absolutely not, Kathy.

I'm going to make the most fantastic porn in the world. So I've reached out of that fantasy since I said it. It's a lifeguard tower. I'm up on a lifeguard tower looking down. Okay. the beach. Okay. Yes, that's good. Or maybe I'm at the top of a tall diving board and they're like at the edge of the pool. Yeah, that's hot. Yeah, that's a good way of making the being up high and watching not sound so psychotic. I mean, before you had a throne where you were up in the sky looking

down, I mean, it was so dumb. That's hot too, though. It's not hot. It's stupid. Maybe they're a elaborate one. Oh my God. People can know that I'm a little bit over the top. No, but listen, okay, so building off of your fantasy that you built, Kathy. Yeah. So she's not into me. But my Banks partner, he's hot, he's dominant. Her partner is not dominant. Her partner is submissive. So there could be a double cuck fantasy where she

fucks my partner and I'm listening and then makes her partner watch. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's so many different versions of what you're saying. That's hot for sure. And listen, you need to make all those versions because there's no

fucking cuck queen content out there. I'm so surprised by that. There isn't. There's just not. All right. Well. And and let me tell you, like I said, when I put out my first cook queen that I had on my show a couple years ago, Phoebe, there were so many women that

emailed me saying, oh my God, thank you so much for this. I think I have this. That's when I realize I had it, you know, and then anytime I air other cuck queens, because I've had other ones after her, right? They came on my show. Women started to put it together. And I still think some women

don't even know that they have it because you can't go when you're horny onto a porn hub and see shit like this. It's all the same shit. And I can't believe that there's not more of this. And that's why I told Lily, make some fucking cuck queen porn. She does not take that and run with it. You should. Somebody should that's listening to this because.

Oh, I was talking. I wasn't talking to her about cuck queen stuff. But I was like, let me pick your brain because I think this is in my future. And she was very like supportive and collaborative. But you know what it is, Kathy? I think a lot of people don't necessarily have the example. So how can we put language in it? Because like sociologically, like you're a very different creature from most women I've ever talked to.

So am I. And so I think especially in terms of A, it would be such a fucking gift to dudes everywhere if this was more common. And B, I think it would it would kind of deconstruct this narrative we have of like, well, if you fuck someone else, he doesn't really love you. That's bullshit. I've fucked a lot of guys who are in love with someone else. I mean, not in a cheating scenario, but also in a cheating scenario. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

Yeah. No, no. I love that. You admit that because everyone knows. my audience knows I love reality TV. It's all I watch. I don't care what people fucking say. I love reality TV.

I'm like a housewife's person. I watch all that. And there was like, I think it was like a girl trip episode where this one girl was talking about how, you know, her friend was married to this really wealthy guy. And then they were having some problems. And then she swipped in and took the guy and now she's married to him. And then they pan to like these confessionals of three other women that were like,

you know, well, I've, you know, I got admitted. I've stolen a guy before. And another one's like, well, look at that fucking ring. I would have stole that guy. and they all like clap to the fact like they've been there done that. I was like, oh, bravo because who are all these guys cheating on with? Okay, girls that have fucking done it. But everyone acts like they never would.

But people obviously do, you know, so I always appreciate someone being fucking straight up honest about it. Yeah. Come on. You know, and just to be clear, I'm definitely at a place in my life where I don't need one more podcast listener emailing me being like, hey, I'd love for you to be my secret podcaster on the side. Not interested.

That's not what I do with my life or my time. but in the world, if the circumstances are correct and two people are attracted, I do not understand this possessive thing around marriage. And I think that people could just distribute their resources nice and evenly and everyone could just have a good time. Like that's what I want for us all. Yeah. Listen, I think that there's people that roll like that and people that don't. And I think we're just born in a society where we're told different things. And depending on when you were born, I think you have more of a block to it than others.

I think, yeah, I was very like, out. of the box in my generation when I was born. But I always say if I was born now, I would just be like everybody else. I wasn't like everybody else when I was younger. I was a weirdo. Very unique. Okay, but like, I just wasn't, I didn't do, like I never wanted to get married. I fucked whoever I wanted.

I didn't have to be in relationships. I really loved sex. I talked about it. Back then, that's not how women are. And I dressed really slutty. Every girl is like that now. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Seriously, like no.

All the girls do. Even the celebrities, look, and on TV, people are dressing the way I used have to dress to go out at night in the bar, you know, in the darkness, you know, and nobody else did it. Every girl did it on Halloween because it just shows that every girl had that inner slut that wants to be fucking sexy, but they could never do it because society didn't allow it. I got a lot of shit, okay, when I was growing up and a lot of backlash for who I was. I wouldn't have got that now.

I had so many guys tell me like, you're not like the girl that you marry. You're like the girl that you fuck because you can't really like sex and have a guy take you seriously back then. But it's different now. So I think women nowadays are more likely to be able to understand

that they might be a little cuck queen. They might want to see their guy with other women because I got a lot of emails from girls. I got a lot of guys downloading those episodes, okay? Because I have a very large guy audience. So I know those guys love. that fucking fantasy. But there were so many girls that were like,

oh my God, this is my thing too. And the other thing that I found from those women, they can't find that content. They can't find more information on that. And I believe that there's no porn because I, as a cuck queen who have those fantasies, can't find that kind of set up scenarios out there. It's typically the guy,

you know how much cock there is with the guy's wife cheating? Tons of it. Women are. I'm not so abnormal. Like I just sometimes think if you feel this way, there's probably other people, tons of people. Like I think there's tons of women that might not ever live it out in real life and that's okay,

but they still might want to watch it in porn. You know what I mean? Yeah, they still might want to get off to it. Of course. You don't need to live out every porn fantasy. Most women and most men I don't think ever want to maybe open up relationships and that's fine. But they might want to think about it.

They might want to jerk off to it. They might want to fantasize about it. And that's cool. Like, why not? Yeah. Yeah. And then who knows when that creates the scenario where, oh my God, you are on vacation. Oh, my God. There is a hot babe that your partner wants to hook up with. Oh, my God. It's happening. Oh, my God. Yeah. Listen, the way you're going to wind up in one of those relationships where those things happen is by first not only fantasizing about those things. But if you're in a relationship, being open about those fantasies with your partner because I have seen it many, many times. Okay. People on my show couples and I'm sure you've had them too where that's how it all started. They were vanilla couple and they just started talking about sex, the things that they liked. Eventually they revealed different kinky things. And over the years, like it turns out, like they wound up doing those things.

Never would they have expected it. But it was all because they started to be super open. The other thing I find on my show and the saddest thing, and I think it's because of the times I grew up in is a lot of the people that are living a double life because they were never able to be open about their naughty, dirty. secret fantasies with their partner. So you know what they do? They go out and be themselves, their real selves with other people. And it's opposite of the way it should be.

You know what I mean? But it's just the way that it is. I think it's different now. A lot of guys and women and their second marriages or when they're later in life and they've done it the wrong way first, the second time they go in like straight up, this is who I fucking am and they're living like their best life.

But I think that that's the problem. But yeah, like more porn. Talk about it. Talk about what you're fucking into. And it can absolutely lead to doing it in real life. I've heard that many times. Totally, totally. And I think there is, I've noticed talking to people that there is this divide between

the people who are still just kind of following the shoulds of society, the way they think they were laid out by their mommies and daddies or whatever, or their churches or whatever. And then there are the people that have been like, wait a second. Actually, I want my life like this. And those are the ones that are more likely to talk to their partners. And I bet you've also had a bunch of listeners, write to you and be like, hey, like, I started listening to your show and then started talking to my partner more because of it.

Yeah, Lucy and Trey. Yeah, Lucy and Trey, they were my long-term listeners and it was literally through my show that they are now a couple and high school sweetheart. So these are not people that have a rocky relationship or anything. High school sweetheart's been together since the dawn of time, but they just started to being open. And then they both copped to being by and being into him too, to her. And now, I mean, she gave me one of the hottest. stripper stories you've ever heard. If people have those listen to Lucy and Trey, it's a very highly downloaded episode.

She talked about her and her guy going to like the strip club and going back and having a threesome with the stripper and how many different ways they did stuff with her, which was like a really hot story. And it was all from them listening to my show together. So I think it is very important. And in that book that people read, I mean, it's sad that that book exists and people read it. follow it because I never did and I've always kind of been happy because I've just done things when I want to fucking do them. You know what I mean? But so many people unfortunately buy the book

read it do it. Do it and then what the fuck are you talking about? You know the book of what to do when to get married what to do? When to have a kid. When to go to college. When to work. When to have a baby. I thought that's what you meant but I wasn't sure. When to be monogamous when you can never get a divorce. All that fucking book. You were just talking about it. Yeah. I never did. I was always just true to. I did things when I wanted to and they were never. They never. They never. They never. followed the book. And not to say that people that follow that book, everyone just read it and did it. Some people will get married right out of college and like be happy and do it that way and that's fine for them. I think what's most important is you do what you want to do when it's right for you

and don't get freaked out by, oh, I'm getting old. I need to be married. I need to, you know, don't live in that box. That's the, that's the thing that I think people shouldn't do. I don't think the younger people live like that. Besides being slutty when I was younger, I didn't go to college right out of high school. I didn't go get a job right away. Like I didn't do any of this. And now people aren't doing it either.

Okay? Like I was born in the different, in the wrong time. I had to go to work and have a boss. And when I had nothing to do, I had to like think. These people now, young people, they could work for Uber, work when they want, turn it off, look at their phone while they're working. I'm like, I got fucking shafted when I was young. My time was the worst now.

It's fucking great. I mean, I think you're doing perfect and I think we need people like you that come born in the wrong time so that we can learn from you. I'm inspired by you. Yeah, it's fine. I mean, but I just think, but I love it. But that's why I really love. I always talk about how much I love the younger generation and I think they're better.

And I think with anything, you're always going to have negatives and so many people are so fatalistic and they'll be like, oh my God, look at these people and there's negatives to every generation. but there's so many positives that they have nowadays that I didn't have that I think it's fucking good for them, especially for women. You know what I mean? It's a great time for women. It's a great time to figure out you're a fucking cuck queen, okay?

Yeah. I have never lived out my cuck queen fantasies. It happened to me by accident and a guy. Never? No, no, no. But the way I realized I was, like I used to have hints of it. Like my co-host Tommy, who I had in the beginning, he was like my booty call. I'm very monogamous when I have a booty call.

I just like to fuck the same guy. You know what I mean? I'm not interested in variety. I'll have the same booty call guy. If I don't have a boyfriend, I fuck the one guy and all the time, same person. That's how I roll. Yeah. And I, he would come over and he was a player, okay?

Like he fucked so many girls. He owned a bar. And I'd always be like, did you fuck someone? No, no, I definitely didn't. And I'd be like, no, but you don't understand. Like, maybe if you told me, I'd be turned on. When I started to do my show, I was putting it together. I was like, oh my God, maybe I'm a cuck queen.

because that's why I used to save it. Like, tell me. He would lie and think he could never tell me fuck somebody else. Every now and then he'd slip and be like, oh yeah, I did two other girls say. And I think I would use it as a turn on. And then recently a couple years back, a guy of mine that I was fucking like sent me a video. And I've talked about this before of like him fucking her girl. But it was like from the behind.

And he sent it to me because he pictured that that was me. Like he was like, look at, you know, I'm imagining this is you because it looked like me from behind. But it wasn't. And so for me to see him fuck someone else I was like the horniest I ever got in my whole life and I was like, what the fuck is that? And that's when I was like, oh yeah, I was right. Me putting that together with Tommy and now I actually got it. That's what that is. I'm a fucking cuck queen.

And after that I begged that guy, send me more stuff. You know what I mean? I didn't know that was the origin story. When you got a video, that's so. Yeah, I got a video. But like I said, he didn't send it for that purpose. But I was like, whoa. And then I was like, send me every picture of every.

girl you thought like anything you got he was like going into the archive sending me shit but i was like um but nothing was like that video so i always felt like oh you know get into relationship i would i would like that scenario turns me on so now because i don't have a guy that's going to go and do that or show me pictures because most guys roll like these guys where they just think there's no part of them that could tell you even if you tell them it's fine they can i don't know why but i think they have a privacy secrecy kink that's my that's my guess about those ones oh yeah you're right right right right like is like hotter to them to do it on the DL than if they told that takes away all the naughtiness and dirtiness of it.

Yeah, that makes sense. I think there's a societal thing around that. And it's wrapped up, I think, in self-judgment. But I have now met enough dudes where I'm like, no, tell me, I'm open. And I have a partner for the first time who's like, wait, for real? And we've been building trust around it. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, it's the hottest thing.

Also, I want to fucking know because not only do I get turned on, I have a better idea of what my health and safety landscape is like, if you're honest with me. Yeah, absolutely. And I feel safe and it's hot. It's hot. But yeah, they don't, they like to, I think, I think a lot of people, because sexuality gets trained into us in this secret way, that cheating thing, I think, goes, speaks to that. I don't, this is my, my own professional guest.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I went off on a guest. It's such a fucking funny episode, my episode with John that I just aired and I go off on him with his whole religious shit. Like, he talks about being religious. And I'm like, you're religious. You're fucking guys in the ass.

You're cheating on your wife. Like, you're doing all these things. Like, you've obviously gone against your religion and you're, obviously really hypocritical, but that's the, that's the turn on. A lot of dirty, kinky things are dirty and kinky because there's like shame involved and you're not allowed to when you just like sort of create that by repressing it and being so anti it. And that's what people get super addicted to in that charge. It doesn't mean though that you can't have dirty, kinky great sex like in the right way and be a turn on. But so many people are attached and only know that

supercharged, naughty, dirty, wrong thing. And that's created by all kinds of like shame and this isn't allowed and all that shit. And there's no need for that, you know? No. No. And at the end of the day, we're bringing it back to porn because we got to wrap it up. Like at the end of the day, that's what porn is for. You could live out these fantasies.

You don't need to do it in reality. You could, you know, you could go on. And if you're a little cuck queen, hopefully Lily is going to make some cuck queen porn and she's fucking on it. Okay. because there needs to be more of it out there. Yes, and her stuff is so beautiful. We went to this event and set up a monitor. Like I was at an event with her in Venice,

sex on the beach, and it was like a sexual wellness thing. And it was so hot to see that she just had a monitor set up. And there's just naked vagina. It was a vulva, like a vulva diversity thing. And so it showed all these different vulvas, all these days. And it's so beautiful.

And so just, yeah, I hope she makes it. If she doesn't, I'm on it, Kathy. But wait, so was she going to air that? Was she creating porn when she was there? What was she doing? She was there showing off. So it was this event full of these organic lube brands. And there were speakers.

And it was this beautifully appointed little kind of like patio in Venice at this place. And so it was a bunch of like sex positive people, very women focused. It's actually been a minute since I've been like in a femme focused sexual wellness space. And so her kind of table had she was talking to people about afterglow. And I was there kind of taking pictures and mingling and talking to people. And I was like, I just interested. interviewed Lily, it's so great. And so it was really, it was a cool event because there were different

like vibrator companies that were like medically oriented and all this sort of stuff. But it was just cool that at a public place that was outdoors, we were allowed to just have a TV set up and porn was playing on it. When there were lots of women there who were like, oh my gosh, ethical porn and lots of people who would come up to her and be like, I subscribe.

And I found out that two of my friends, two of my close friends are afterglow subscribers. Wow. So I was like, oh my God, this is great. So, you know. Yeah, well, it's just porn. It's ethical porn for women, right? And men, they have men that, I mean, it's not just, yeah, no, all of it. All of it.

It's definitely, I would say it's more like, it seems more straight focus than, well, no, actually the one I was watching was two ladies. It's straight and queer. I don't know. We like everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, we've been watching porn meat for men our whole lives and we think it's hot. Why wouldn't guys think like porn meat for women is hot too?

It's still fucking naked people, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I'm like, so many people tell me how very. usually oriented guys are. And I'm like, me too. So I can't wait to just show people how hot stuff is through my eyes. I mean, I've been creating content for a lot of my slutty friends as a behind the camera person. And I cannot wait to do that on a larger scale.

Yeah, well, you know what? If it's not done by the time you get around to that, just do the whole cuck queen thing. And you're going to fill a niche that is not filled. Someone's got to get fucking on it, okay? I feel like I could definitely do the diving board and or like. guard tower fantasy pretty easily. Do me a favor. Please, just hire me, though, as your final editor, okay, so I could take anything that's so

far-fetched out. If I'm going to do a regular one, I will have you on from the very beginning to the throughout production, you can make sure. Actually, that you don't get too extreme. Well, to make a porn that makes Kathy happy specifically, I actually, like, love that idea. You can hear for it. Careful what you've gotten yourself.

Thank you, Kathy. Yeah, it's okay. Okay, I told you, I have a, I have a very vivid imagination. I can think of 50,000 more scenarios. Thank you so much for calling in and, you know, going over the whole cuck queen thing with me. I didn't realize you were such the cuck queen, like the hardcore. Oh, my gosh. I knew you were.

Well, apparently I didn't either. Yes, you are the fucking queen. Listen, people could go. People could go find your podcast and listen to more sex stories over there. It's sex stories on any podcast app, right? And you come on my show and do girl talks and following your whole sexual escapade stories. So I have your sex stories on my Girl Talk episode. So stay tuned for that. And thanks so much for calling in again. Thank you for having me, Kathy. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book,

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