Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 703 - BONUS EPISODE: Fact or Fiction - Raul Cheats on his Wife with Men and Women

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Does Raul cheat on his wife with both men and women?? Tune in to decide! When did he realize he was into guys? When did he start cheating on his wife with guys? And, what does he do with th guys he me...ets up with? Tune in for all the details including how ad why he never even thought about guys until he saw a specific scene on tv and what that scene was that triggered him, how he is very dominant when he hooks up with women but enjoys being the opposite when it comes to hooking up with men, how and why he cheats on his wife with both men and women, the first guy he hooked up with and exactly what went down, how his wife caught him with cheating with that guy, how she reacted and how she got past it, the second guy he cheated on her with and exactly what went down with him, whats on his bucket list to try with guys in the future, how and why he thinks he has a cheating kink plus a whole to more. *Raul gave me his consent to post it as a fact or fiction episode and is down to hear everyone's comments* When I taped this I believed everything he was saying, it was when I was editing that I started to think maybe this is a made up story. Wondering you you agree or disagree. Go to the comments section on Youtube to let me know: https://www.youtube.com/c/StrictlyAnonymouspodcast **To see pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Santerport or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because I change everybody's voices. Because I change everybody's voices. So if you have an interesting, not a life story that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous, you can either send me an email at strict anonymous, oh no, at strictly anonymous podcast.gmail.com, or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Beyond the show. If you want to leave a confession on my confessions hotline, you could call that number 247. The number is 347, 4203579. I have a
Starting point is 00:01:25 Patreon. It's a really good deal for only five bucks a month. You're going to see Anonymous picks. On my Patreon, you get Q&As every month. You get every episode early and ad-free, as well as access to my private discord where people post their X-rated stuff. That's on a place where I go. It's more of a community of my listeners. So if you want to join that community, it's private. You have to go through my Patreon. Sign it for my Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Now I'm going to get right to the episode. It is a fact or fiction episode. This one is not so cut and dry. And the truth is, when I listened to him first, when I talked to him, I didn't not believe him. It was when I went back and edited the episode. Now, I edit my episodes
Starting point is 00:02:11 a lot. I mean, sometimes I listen to podcasts too, just like you do. And sometimes I listen to other podcasts and I hear like fucking dishes in the background, horns beeping, dogs barking, people chewing. And I mean, I'm always like, what the fuck? Like edit that out. So I edit everything out. I edit out repeating words, long pauses, cough, sniffs, all kinds of shit. So when I was editing the shit out of this episode, I was like, there's things here that don't make sense to me. I'm going to put this out as a factor fiction because all of a sudden I don't believe him. I've already aired this on my Patreon. There were mixed reviews about whether he was telling the truth or not. I love to get all of my strictly anonymous listeners who are detectives like me
Starting point is 00:02:57 want to be detectives to give me their opinion about what the fuck you think this episode is. Is it fact or fiction? YouTube is a great place to put in your two cents. You could also now comment on Spotify, which is cool. You just can't
Starting point is 00:03:13 put any dirty words in your comments there or on YouTube, okay? So keep it clean, but you could comment over on YouTube or on Spotify or send me an email what you think about his story. And his story is that he's always been cheating on his wife. He used to cheat on her with women. She's found out a bunch of times. He talks about all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And then he started cheating on her with dudes. Something new. He really is into oral sex and jerking off with them and doing all kinds of things. And he goes through all the experiences. He has had his wife eventually found out that he was also hooking up with guys. And we go through that whole story. He really is into guys now. He realized it later in life. He talks about how he really it, how it came out of nowhere when he was much older and what triggered it. That's kind of interesting story. And what he's looking to do down the line, he has some kinks that he talks about and all that kind of good stuff. But the most interesting part of this to me is like, is he lying or not? I don't know. You tell me. Listen to the whole story and then go comment on YouTube or Spotify or
Starting point is 00:04:20 DM me on Instagram. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Raoul. Hi Raoul. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? Great. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Yeah, Roel. I think you called in and left a confession, right? I know that you are a married Latino. There's some cheating going on, some bisexuality, some being open. And I don't know what that means. You and your wife are open or you're open about your bisexual or I don't know. So tell me your deal. Does your wife know that you're bisexual? she found out she found pictures one time of a guy that was jacking me off and then also
Starting point is 00:05:04 was going down on me oh my god so yeah and that kind of threw things off but i told you because forever like i've never i wasn't curious they always say like you're born sort of whatever a certain way but no i i don't feel that i've i've always been open-minded and and and definitely not judgmental, but I never was curious about guys at all. Okay. And then like over the years, I think it was weird because one time I was watching this, she was asleep next to me, we're watching TV and she fell asleep. And queer as folk was on and the scene came on.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And it was like a gang bang scene. And this guy got gang bang by a bunch of guys. And I'm watching it. And all of a sudden I was like, I can't believe I have a heart on this is crazy. Like, why? That's weird, right? So all your life, and you would tell me the truth, I'm a total stranger, right? Like, you're not lying about the fact that you never were into dick.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Like, you seriously never had a thing for guys, no inkling for it, no jerking off to it privately when you were younger out of curiosity. Never. Until that time that you saw that scene and you got like a Woody. Yeah. Wow. It was crazy. And then that just kind of like was like, wow. Maybe there's something.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So I was in the Marine Corps. I was, I've been with around guys my whole life, sports and things. And I just never, I never was attracted to him. I just never, I don't know why. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:38 or I know why. I mean, I was just kind of like normal. And even, I remember going to a bookstore, an adult bookstore one time. And there was a glory hole, which I grew up.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I didn't know what that was. like what the hell is this guy was trying to tell me to stick my my dick in there and I'm like no man what are you talking about that was like get the hell I got away for me I told the guy get away from me and it wasn't like I was defensive or I'm like phobic about it I just wasn't like why why would I do that no interest whatsoever in it no no no not even any curiosity not it's really odd It came, I've read recently where it's called adult onset, either bisexuality or almost. Right. Do they call it Layton at all or no, more adult onset?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Adult onset. And I think it has something to do with being married. I see it like with other people and the same kind of from what I've read and from like different, different stories and things like that. Or maybe the wife that put it in as much. And then the guys, instead of. cheating with the woman, it seems like it's almost it's not cheating. Yeah, I get that weird, I get that weird mentality. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I could see why you would think that. Yeah. Yeah, there's no, I'm not cuddling and I'm not kissing and I'm not rubbing. I don't like any of that,
Starting point is 00:08:08 but you're not getting anything that your wife is giving you. It's something completely different, but it's still sex. Right. Yeah. Yeah. True. How old were you when you saw that scene, the gang bang guy gang bang scene? I was probably 30. So 30. So that night did you jerk off to those thoughts and then did it continue on? I did. I did. I did jerk off to that. And then, um, no. And then I really did, it kind of went away. Okay. And over the years, so I'm, I'm open-minded, right? I mean, I know a good, looking guy, a good looking woman. I'm not so masculine that I ain't looking at no man. Yeah, yeah, I remember having a crush on this kid on American Idol. He was a singer and I thought he was a cutest thing,
Starting point is 00:09:02 which was weird to me too. I'm like, why am I, why would I? So there are, I can say like a guy, a guy is handsome and a guy is good looking. Yeah, but did that crush happen before? Let's like, let's use that gang bang scene as that pivotal moment. Did that crush, quote unquote, happen on the American Idol guy before or after that scene? Is everything you're talking about come after? After. Okay, so after. So all of a sudden, because Crush is like a powerful word.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's like kind of you feeling some feelings for another guy. Right, yeah, which is totally funny. There's some funny things in like this whole dynamic of, and this is kind of like where I'm curious about a lot of things. It's kind of nice to have this forum to be able to. to open up and talk about things because so on the female side, I'm pretty dominant. If I do get some on the side, it's very dominant. Everything's dominant.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I'm in charge. I'm rough. I'm spanking and twisting and pulling. Yeah. You're alpha. You're the alpha. Or the dom. That's the right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Yeah, the dom. The dom, right? With some of the crushes, they're very, I don't know, it used to be like the word twink. I don't know if that even is still around, but very like a feminine guy. But it's, and it's funny because when it, so when it comes to sucking dick and being on this, it's like a hunt right now. I don't know what's, it's kind of odd. Like maybe in the last four years, three years, I just, I'm looking for the biggest. It's like, it's kind of like I want to
Starting point is 00:10:43 be the center of like a circle. I have these fantasies that I want to fulfill because I'm 52 and I don't want to get old. I don't want to be that old creepy guy in the in the bookstore. And so I want to get these out of my system before I can't. But so are you saying that when you're, when you fantasize about men, you're the opposite. You're the submissive in that scenario. I want to be. Yeah. Right. I would like to be. Okay. Now, you said when I'm getting some on the side, do you also cheat on your wife with women? I have. I will. Okay. I do. Okay. Okay. So you have, you will, you do, all of the above. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Past, present, future. You're just a fucking cheater. Yeah, I kind of feel like I hate to say. Nobody wants to be a dick, but I think I am. I don't think. She's known about things over the years. And I've given her opportunity. I tell her, go.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I've told her I want her to have a boyfriend. I want her to be able to go on dates and have fun and come back and tell me. but she's not really interested in anything like that. So it kind of like, I feel like I'm alone in that, in that regard, you know? Has she ever given you a free pass or is it always, oh, you cheat, she gets upset and then you promise her you're never going to do it again, but you continue on? Yeah, kind of like that. We've had threesomes. We've had, I let a friend of ours, we don't fuck her.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We had a party. I told her to pick somebody and she picked one of my buddies and then, and it was great. It was fun and she had a good time. And then it was just like she closed back up again. But that's pretty major that she did that. That was like when you were married. Is that recently? No, 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Okay. And then, but you never did that again? Did you ever have threesome of women? We did, but I wasn't allowed to fuck the women. But yeah, we've had a few of them. Right. So she did stuff like that. I thought it was really huge.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she said it's kind of over. got older. She can be, but she's not. Well, listen, I think it takes work sometimes, and I think if you've
Starting point is 00:12:55 got, you know, there's two different kinds of guys. Well, there's many different types of guys, but some guys will cheat, like, that's an option, and some guys won't. And I think if cheating isn't on the table, right? And a guy knows he's not going to he's not going to be able to fill those fantasies elsewhere. He's going to do the work to
Starting point is 00:13:13 try and get that girl to do the things maybe that he wants to do. I mean, you had a woman that crossed the line and had three sons with women, fucked your friend. I mean, I think if cheating wasn't on the table for you, you could have done a little bit more work to keep her open and get her probably to do more things because she's kind of down. Okay, she's not like some vanilla housewife that is no fucking way. You can't even watch porn. I mean, this girl has done a lot with you, but I think because you'll just go and cheat if you want to do something. Why put in, why do all the stuff that I have to do to keep that going because I think there needs to be more
Starting point is 00:13:48 communication and you got to keep getting her into it and pushing, not pushing her, but you know, there's a lot that goes into creating an open relationship and building that trust and getting a woman to feel comfortable enough to really go down that path and fully commit to it. She was there, but I think you just didn't probably communicate about it enough and talk about it enough to get her more into it. And I think the reason why is because you'll just go get it's all. place else. Maybe, yeah. This message is brought to you by avocado mattress,
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Starting point is 00:15:13 That's avocatomattress.com. Avicottomattress.com. Yeah. You know that, that's probably true. And then also, well, some of the things, too, is feminine changes, age and things like that. Because that's completely shut down anything. Yeah, that is a tough thing in many marriages, and especially for the women, right? Because some, and a lot of times the guy does, it's not like the guy.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I don't know if you're saying, you're complaining about her changes or. or she feels uncomfortable, but most of the time it's the woman that feels uncomfortable, the changes. Even if the guys, you still look fucking hot to me. She's like, I hate the way I look. And now they don't feel confident to get naked and have a good time.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And it's a real terrible thing that happens. Yeah, she's beautiful. She is, she's very hot. But it's that, and she works out, and she takes care of herself. But it's hormonal changes too that's just shut down the factory. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, if you don't go on, If a woman doesn't go on hormones, there's, there's weight gain. There's a lot of things that happen and it happens to everybody. It's just unfortunate, but it's true. And if you see women that have been in menopause and they're skinny, they're on fucking hormones. Sorry, but it's just the way that it goes. It is what it is and it's all, and it is all hormones. But let's get back to the whole by thing because I find that really interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I mean, eventually at some point your wife not only found out that you cheated on her with women, I'm assuming, but you also were cheating on her with guys. So how long after that experience, now you're getting crushes on guys and stuff? Like, when do you start dabbling and doing it in real life? I want to say that. So it was like maybe 2006 or seven when the TV crush. And then I forget if it was maybe, maybe earlier, but I think it was two. Yeah, 2009 maybe. I finally said like I got on Craigslist or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And I was like, I just wanted to have somebody just, I just wanted to watch someone. somebody jack off just to see, you know. And I never really seen anybody do it, like close. Like, you go to a theater or something like that or a bookstore. You might see somebody, but to like actually be next to somebody. So I met this guy, which actually turned out to be a really good looking guy. It was kind of cool because it worked out. So he just, we met in a parking lot.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And then so he would pull up. And I was told everything, it's funny because everything's really masculine. Everything's really normal with me. There's, there's, hey, what's up? How are you doing? And shake hands and then, all right, let's do this. And then what do you think? Guys that are hugging up,
Starting point is 00:17:44 well, guys show up in a tutu and they have lisp. I don't know. That's what's so funny that I think. I love that you say that though, because I really feel like that most guys sort of thought about it. Like even you as someone who's done it, you're like, yeah, but I'm like really masculine going into this situation where I'm fooling around the guy. Because I think that people think if you're a guy on guy action, there's something not masculine about it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And maybe there is something not masculine about it. I don't know, because you said you want to kind of be like that cissy boy and there's a feminine aspect to it for you. I don't know. It's interesting, though, the words you use. And that's true, right? So that is like in the, it's in the future. It still hasn't happened. But because there's a guard, right?
Starting point is 00:18:25 And then so that's part of the deal with even culturally being like, you know, we don't, there's, there's always that machismo. There's always that fighting where we're drinking beer, having fun. Nobody ever says, hey, show me your dick. That's weird. It's what it is, right? So it's just funny. So going back to the story with this guy, so I just met him just to watch him jack off.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So then he's watching and he goes, you want to take yours out? So I'm all right, so I take it out. So then he was completely chill. And then he was like, do you care if I grab you? And I'm like, I don't really, I don't really want to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And then, like, no, not pushing at all. Then we just, I was just kind of watching him. And they say, sure? And then I'm like, yeah, yeah, right, go ahead. So then, so he starts to touch me. I'm like, this is, it felt great, right? It's like different and, and, and weird and, and to me, new and all that. And so he goes, you know, I would really like to go down to him. I really would not, yeah, and I'm not here for that. Welcome to the world of being a woman. This is how guys do it. They push you along.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Right. Yeah, exactly. Next thing, he's pushing your, your head down on his dick. I probably, I probably would have tried. Yeah, that's what guys are. he's yeah just i just want to rub your back right yeah that's how exactly that's how it all started yeah now he's like asking to blow you yeah so then he asked me blow and then i was thinking like when am we going to have this chance again and like he wasn't wasn't like a gross guy because i i jacked off a guy one time who was completely ugly he was like the you know fat that to be not to be judging but it was just like and i kind of got off on that that that was really gross like that was but that was like the turn on that it was like dirty like a gross i don't
Starting point is 00:20:08 Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I got it. Just I couldn't believe I did that. It seemed like you're like, you're like, that's, that was gross, which I wouldn't do. Right, but you still did it. So wait. So now, how far did you go with that guy, that first guy? So the first guy, I let him go down. I let him blow me. And then he, it was, it was awesome because it was like, it was in a parking lot. It was public.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It was crazy. He wasn't bad looking, like I said. And then so he, he goes down on me. I told him, like, I'm going to come. Like, I'm going to. And then he kept going. And I'm like, then I was like, well, I wanted you. So then I was thinking to myself.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And then I came and he's like, love. and he swallowed it all and then just like it was normal. I'm just like impressed because I never seen anything like this in real life. I just never. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this is major experience for the guy that's never even thought about guys. I mean, I think it is a big moment. It was.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And then I was like, well, that was hot. Then so then he finishes. He wipes like he wipes his mouth on an African. I go, yeah, see you later, man. We give each other for like a little dab and I get out of a car. And then I was it. And I was like, wow. And then like later on I was like, yeah, I should have got his number.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I don't know. What am I supposed to make dinner for him or something? It was what it was. It was just a hit and run and that was nice. And that's kind of like what I'm into now too. I don't want to hang out. I don't want to even go have beers. Like I'm not looking for friends.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I just want to like I have a buddy of mine. He's just a cock buddy. And then so he shows up and go, hey, let's go. And then he takes it out. I go down on him. I swallow and then and then we leave and that's it. When was your, the first time you went down on a guy, on a guy? Two years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Oh, really? So you were like letting guys do stuff to you for a long time before you went down on a guy. Okay, so take that, I take that back. So no, after that guy, that was in like 2009. Yeah. I went on, I went, I went back into hiding or whatever. Oh, that was like you didn't do it for a long time. Yeah. It satisfied me for a long time. And then I'm not sure what kind of brought me back into it.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I think the urge to want to try something new. I think that's what it was. I think it was just me. I think I just got bored again and then was like, you know what? I think I want to suck some. I think I'm going to try to suck some because I've never done that. You know? And then. So I put out. an ad and then I met this guy. He was a Marine and we got along. We done well and I was like, all right, let's try it. So the same thing. I show up at his house and then I go, hey, let's go. I want to be quick, quick, quick comers are great. I don't want to spend much time. I don't want to there's no, like I said, no kissing, no fondling. So yeah, I went down on him and then he came, he came. So then I wanted to taste it. I, I haven't even tasted my own. It's weird. It's weird. I don't know why, you know, pre-com, I can lick my fingers all day long, but I come, come, I can't do it. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But you did it with him and how was it? It was great. It was great. It was, it was what I was looking for. It was what I wanted. And I could feel it. I could feel it. I could feel it.
Starting point is 00:23:36 The warmth, salt, salty. It's funny because now I'm more like into face fucking. I like for him to grab my head and be forceful and try to take it all, right? So it's kind of like, I like that aspect. like being roughed up. So that's, that's the part that, like, the next chapter that I'm kind of looking for is, is the being used. I want to be used. Like, I like that feeling, I guess. But wait, you're skipping around a little bit, not skipping around. I feel like there's a lot more to this and there's probably a lot more blow jobs and a lot more hookups. But what I want to know is, like,
Starting point is 00:24:07 when during this story does your wife find those pictures? And what the fuck were you doing with those pictures? And how sloppy were you that she, where like, did you have them hidden that she found them? I I need to know that story. They were on a digital camera because back it was in 2009. Oh, so this was back then, that guy, the Jerkoff guy? Yeah. You took pictures that time? Yeah, the very first time I ever did it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You took pictures the first time? Yep. Okay, so you brought your camera, took pictures and left them on the camera? I mean, how did she find them? I left them on a flash drive. Okay. She found the flash driver in my Jeep in my truck. And she put it in to look because she doesn't trust you because she's caught you cheating before.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Right. Yeah. Okay. So she was like, what the fuck is this? And then everything blew up. And I was like, well. I mean, that's a big blow up. I mean, it's one thing to find out that your guy has cheated on you with women.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But it's another thing to not only find out that your guy has cheated on you with a guy, but to actually see pictures of it. I mean, she saw, what was in those pictures that she saw? saw? Just like hit the guy's head on my, on my cog. I mean, obviously that's a big deal, but I mean, not just just that, but I mean, it wasn't like, like, it was just, nobody. But how did that conversation go down?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Tell me how she found out. Did you, were you at work? Like, where did that, what happens? Um, it was like, she called me at work and she was just livid. And obviously I had to go meet her and go over everything. And it was like. bad for a while and then but she she loves me she loves me so there was never like a we're going to get a divorce or right in she was she a little freaked out what does this mean
Starting point is 00:26:00 are you gay i mean how long did it take her to get past that because i would think that would make her question your sexuality no yeah um she did and then same kind of thing yeah what does this mean whatever i'm like i don't know what it means but i mean i just got my dick sucked and then You know, because there is, there are, like, and we've had this talk before, and we had a couple that were friends of ours. And one time we, I mean, we're out, you know, we drink and having some drinks and stuff. And this is a funny conversation because she, like I've told her before, like, just sex is sex. And it's just, it doesn't really, sometimes doesn't mean anything. Don't, don't, don't be confused.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Because that's the thing is that we let our emotions get the best of us, right? So sometimes it doesn't mean anything. Sometimes just means you get you fucked around. sometimes you just got your dick sucked. It's just a thing. Right, exactly. No motions attached. It doesn't mean you don't love your woman. One has nothing to do with the other. But people that don't roll like that can understand that for sure, whether it's a woman or a man. Some men aren't even wired that way, but a lot of guys are. And some women are wired that way, but most women aren't. So I think it's very hard for a woman to understand that a guy could go and like fuck someone
Starting point is 00:27:10 else and it means absolutely nothing. I mean, sometimes it does mean something. And some cheaters are cheating out of a lot of other, there's a lot of other things going down there. But sometimes it is just a physical kind of a thing and means nothing. It doesn't mean that you don't love your wife or there's no emotions attached there. Like I said, sometimes it does. And there is more than that going down, but not always. So you always try to express that to your girl. Listen, it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So what happened at that conversation? Doesn't mean anything. There was a conversation. Yeah. So there was a conversation with a couple. And so the wife mentioned that she's never had an orgasm ever. And we're like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And then she was. was like, she's told, so my wife says, you should hook up with my husband because he will make you have one. And then we're like, we're all joking. And then she goes, would you really do that? Would you guys really? Would you really do that? And then my wife says, sex is sex. It's not, it's like, like, a big deal. And I was like, wow, okay. So she does get it, right? Like she doesn't, she's not, like you said, she's not like this conservative vanilla lady. One time when the internet first started, my sister and my sister-in-law caught us watching porn me and my brother-in-law. Like just we have the internet.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He's like, dude, you got to watch this. Check this out. So she goes, so she goes and tells my wife, she says, the guys are watching porn. She goes, what do you think they were watching? Why else would they be on the internet? I was like, I thought that was the funniest answer because she was trying to bust us and we're like, no, I don't know. And your wife was cool. Your wife was understanding.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I mean, she's not. She totally understood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she, listen, she's caught you. How many times does she caught you cheating with women? Like twice. So she. Well, once like on the internet.
Starting point is 00:28:48 talking chatting right and then that was when I first started and then a few years ago yeah same same panting but but but she didn't catch me it was just kind of insinuating and I was like yeah I'll take it I take I'm back and off or whatever so right so she knows who you are she's not leaving you anytime anyway so she's learned to accept the fact that maybe sometimes you do these things even with guys she doesn't know she doesn't really does she because I would think it it takes a while to come back and trust somebody after they betray your trust. I mean, did she turn to be very distrustful in the beginning when she first started catching you?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Or was she always able to just move on? She's always kind of bounced back. She always kind of moved on. She was very distrustful for maybe two or three years. But then I would be good. And then I wouldn't, I'd come home every, like, I don't go out. I don't go. I'm not a bar guy.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm not a club guy. or anything like that. I'm very routine. So you were able to regain her trust over those years. Like after you were bad, she didn't trust you for many years, but you proved your trust. You regained it. Yeah. And so she's been able to be okay with that. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And sometimes I think it's just don't ask questions you don't want to know, like answers to kind of, which is like a little shitty, right? But it's also I got so I feel like I want to live my life too. like I'm like I'm said I'm 52 I'm still young enough I'm not a troll I don't want to I take care of myself and I still want to live my life I still want to try things whether she wants to be part of it or not there I feel like what if I die and I never get to do some of the things I've wanted to yeah for sure I think 50 is uh is a time for guys like 40 is for women I think men don't feel anything at 40, but at 50 they do. You're going to really feel it at 60.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I have friends that are turning 60. That's when you're like, oh my God, you're like a fucking old man. I don't know. It's like a weird thing. Women go through it way earlier because at 40, they're like over the hill. People thought, I don't know, it's like a weird thing for women at 40. But at 50, I feel like a lot of guys are coming into their owner. Like, oh, my God, they say it's like a midlife crisis, but it's not always that.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And a lot of times it's, yeah, you start to realize, okay, you know what? Like, I'm going to die one day, right? How much longer do I got to go? And I got to fucking live it up. And sometimes I hear a lot of guys on my show at around that same age if they're living a secret life. They don't want to do it anymore. They just want to be who the fuck they are. Or your story.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Like you're like you have these desires. You want to do it and have fun and live your life, right? Carpe Die. Do it now while you can. Have you had, I mean, what's going on with your wife as far as SCX is a concern? I mean, has that gone out the window because of her changes and stuff? I mean, do you have any conversations about that with her? She's busy.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And so we just do what we do when we do. There's nothing like there's no set. We don't have Tuesday sex night. We're never routine. I hate routine. It's like that bothers me too. And I think that part has something to do with the way that I am. Just being stuck in the same life and the same freaking going to work, hello, the whole everything.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And it's, so our, our sex life is not so bad. It's, I mean, it's not as great as I would love to you, but it's not horrible. Like, it's not, um, I'm not in a sexless marriage, but I'm not in a sexful marriage. Like, it's not. And it sounds like, you know, that orgy scene or that gangbang scene that you saw, sort of spark something in you and you still have some desires that haven't been fulfilled, right? Like you said now this past year, you're in a phase and a hunt to, go do way more, correct? Right, yes. And so what is it that you're looking for now? I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:47 you sounds like you've had a lot of guys or is it just these two guys? I mean, have you, you have a cock buddy? I mean, do you see him a lot? Do you have other men? What's your deal with hookups now? I have the one buddy that I see like maybe once a month or whenever, whenever, kind of feel like whenever, whenever, there's no set, same thing, no set time. Yeah. I'll just text I mean, hey, meet me here, you know, this time, in a certain time, or whatever. And it's so I want to, right now, my, my little goals or challenges, I want to take like multiple guys. So that would be like my next fantasy I want to fulfill. I love, I can watch the just guys shooting and women too, both.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I just love the sound. I like the animal part of it. Like I think it's more the primal stuff that I'm kind of into right now. like just the really kind of turns turns me on more. I'm learning to put my defenses down because I'm very defensive person, like on the street, like a normal, like a like a like a normal guy. So for me to like to be able to put my defenses down, to be able to to even get close to a guy to be able to to me.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's like it's liberating. Sometimes there's I get in moods and I'm really like I would love that. Sometimes to just be like I don't want to be. like a pig per se like just but but i do want to be used like i just think there's like safety like safety is so important to me obviously just my own my own health my but i but i also want to be like to let loose a little bit right now as oral as far as you've gone so far so you have any desire to take it any further not yet not i i'll fan like i'll fantasize about it i don't know if you heard this term post-net clarity.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yes, I know that. Yeah. It's like when you're not drunk anymore. Yeah. So there's times when like I think about more. I think about being used, being being gang pain. I think about I think about I fantasize about all that. And then sometimes I'll come and then I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:56 What was that? Yeah. I think a lot of people feel that way when Googling for porn, right? I've had that. And that's why I think some things are like meant to stay fantasy. some things aren't because I don't know maybe you would feel but who knows I mean I I think because listen that first scenario that you saw that gave you a woody was that I think that will always stand out for you that kind of fantasy because that was like the first thing that kind of turned you on it doesn't mean though
Starting point is 00:35:22 that you'll ever do that in life like maybe not but of course you're still going to find that hot because that was like the first thing that really stuck out in your memory or made you even realize you're into guys Right, and I can't find it. I've looked up episodes and episodes as it was queer as folk, and I've never been able to find that scene again, and I don't know why. Oh, well, let's put a call out to my listeners, okay? Someone's going to find it for you.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Tell him where that queerest folk gang bang episode is. Go put it on YouTube comment. Let me know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if those other guys that are going to be like, I remember that one, too. Listen, you're not a lone role. I mean, I get a lot of, a lot of, I've learned a lot of things on my show. I think I always knew before going into my show that there was a lot of guys that were into guys
Starting point is 00:36:14 because just for the fact that there's a lot of girls that are into girls, they're just more open about it because it's more socially acceptable, right? Still, there's still a stigma attached. Like you bring up masculinity, especially cultural masculinity because you're Latino. There still is that stigma because it is, oh, feminine and not. macho to be into guys for guy on guy action does still have that huge stigma. But how could you think that there's not as many guys as there are girls? I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's just that they're not really being honest about it. So it wasn't shocking to me when I started to do my show that I had all these guys calling in talking about what they're doing. I just think that I can't believe that other people don't get it because it is true. There are tons of guys that are doing this and they're still doing it on the DL. because there unfortunately is still a stigma. And I had these two guys on, The Maverick Men. They're like a very famous gay porn couple.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They're very loved. They're getting married, actually. But they love to fuck other guys, and they put on film, and they became very popular porn stars. Super hot videos, by the way, like Guy on Guy Action. They were on my show recently, and I never heard this before, because I'm always like, when people are on my show
Starting point is 00:37:25 talking about Guy and Guy Action, oh, but I'm not gay, or I'm not this, or everyone's sort of, they say it, but then they're defending their position because they're afraid of what it means. And I'm always like, that's so rude. Like, why is it so terrible to be gay? And what is the problem with it? And you know what they said?
Starting point is 00:37:40 And I was like, oh, my God, that's fucking right. He's really what it is is misogyny. Because what are you saying? Like, it's feminine. So what are you saying it's bad to be feminine? So it really is anti-woman, if you really think about it, right? Because you're saying a guy is less of a guy and he's a woman. And so, but why is that bad unless women are beneath men?
Starting point is 00:37:59 And so I'm like, wow, I never heard a put to me that way. but there is something misogynistic about that the stigma because that's what you're saying. You're less of a man. You're a woman. You're part woman. It's like ridiculous. But true. And there really is that.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And you, I wonder, I mean, for you, because you have that cultural, you are Latino, right? And you are this macho guy. Do you, did you struggle with the fact that you were doing this? Was it confusing to you? It sounds like you went up and read a lot of stuff and everything about it. Yeah, I did. I kind of read a lot. I've read a lot of fantasy stories.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I've read a lot of just even psychiciatric part of it, psychology part of it, because I'm interested in always like trying to learn more about myself and about being better and being more open. And there's nothing wrong with, there's nothing, there's no bad side of being open. There's no downside. And I was more close-minded.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So all this like liberating stuff to me, It's just, it's just part of like the growth, like the progress, the journey, like of my life. And I don't want, I don't want to get to the end and not have tried something that, you know, that who, you know, why not? Like, why not? Like, it's not hurting anybody, you know? And how do you feel about that stigma now that you went from, you know, living half your life? I mean, up until you were 30 years old, you were not bisexual. You weren't into guys at all. You were all macho man, right? hetero and now you're suck a dick
Starting point is 00:39:30 I mean how do you feel about it now I mean it must have really changed your view because you're still that macho guy right you're still that alpha guy does it does it do you see it very differently now because you've been on the other side yeah I see it's it's funny because I
Starting point is 00:39:49 see my like the younger generation my my kids and stuff like they're not like they're they're chill They're all by. They're all by the men and the women. Yeah, it's great. But it's not a, I think it's, there's certain things that, you know, there are certain rules that I think need to be followed and other other rules that don't. It's just. And then the way life is, is if you got to play by the rules, play by the rule, who gives a shit? Or don't. Who gives a shit? At the end of the day, who gives a shit? That's the whole thing. It's like the, the beauty of it all is nobody cares. But how do you see? Do you, how do you, what do you feel? Do you feel less macho or less? manly because you might suck a dick every now right that's what I'm saying that's the point right that's what the point you should make like you were a guy that is very macho like you even said
Starting point is 00:40:40 when I went to meet that guy it was like we were still like men meeting men of course it doesn't change that you're fucking dude that's the biggest fear that guy thinks that it like all of a sudden you're like a chick I don't know no you're the same dude you just suck a dick every now and then what's the big I don't know I don't know I People are, you know, I'm not a guy, so I didn't grow up with that stigma. I'm a woman. We have other kind of things put on us. But guys definitely have this.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And it's sad because there are so many guys like you that are doing this on the DL. You sound pretty okay about this part of yourself. It sounds like you're really fully into it and you actually want to get more into it and experience it and you're fine. But there's like a lot of guys that are still doing it on the DL and don't even know what it fucking means and feel bad about it and living a very secret life. And that's sad. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:30 See, if I was gay, it would be different. Like, that would be, that would be tough. Like, I can see if you were a gay man living in a married life, living like a fake life. Yeah. Then that would be very sad. That would be tough. That would be, but, like, I feel like, like, like, I'm not anything. Like, I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm just living my life.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like, this is. And so I don't have to, like, there's not like, it's not like I'm, uh, exclusively men or I'm exclusively women. I don't want, like, I just, like, I just want to try some stuff. And I don't think that makes you anything. It doesn't. It makes you very sexual. You know, like, listen, there was a guy on my show. I don't know if you listened to Dr. Joe court. He became successful on TikTok because he did a TikTok where he was like, guys could suck a day could not be gay or not even be bisexual and not even be into guys. I mean, but it's just a thing. And the way he explained it on my show was super interesting. And it made total sense to me. And he said
Starting point is 00:42:27 that there are some people, it doesn't mean anything. It's just a matter of being in the moment at that time. It's your sexual, it's just an expression of sex, but it doesn't mean anything more. Sometimes it does, but a lot of times it doesn't. And the way he broke it down was like super interesting. And it made sense. And it sounds like that's how you roll.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, he was really good. He's like a PhD. He's a sex therapist. He happens to be gay, which normally a gay guy would never say that. Any guy suck in his dick, he'd be like, you're fucking gay too. You know what I mean? Every guy thinks every other guy is gay. But no, he's here to say that you can be a guy and you could do it and it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And I think, and he went viral because that's such a controversial thing to say, right? Because everyone's no way. But when he came on my show, the way he explained it totally made sense. And I'm going to, I can't say it correctly because I don't remember the terminology he used. But I'll put the episode in this description so people who go listen to it. And I'll send you the link to it because it's a really good episode. I think it would. Because you sound like a.
Starting point is 00:43:27 curious person, which I think is cool. Like you went to look and figure it out. You liked not only the sexual stuff that you were doing, you wanted to know the psychology behind it and stuff. So I think you'll find his episode super interesting. I'm curious about everything. I'm curious about life. I'm curious about anything. If a, if a cop stops you, I want to know why. If it's a, if somebody said you can't do this, why? Why can't, why not? Like, why can't we go this far? Why can't we go further than it? So. But that's why that's by curious. That's probably why you're that way when it comes to sex too. You're curious about everything. Why wouldn't you be curious about sex? Why not? Yeah. It makes sense with that part of your personality. I'm more like baffled by people who aren't
Starting point is 00:44:09 curious. I'm like psychotically curious about everything. I mean, look at my show. I've talked to 700 strangers. And I mean like seven of those years I didn't get paid a dime. I just did it for fun because I like I find everything interesting and I'm curious about so much and a lot of people just aren't. But I think that that's the part of you that saw that video that time and was like, hmm, you got curious about that. And then you just decided to go and try it. Listen, I think the worst thing about your story is that you're doing this all without your wife's knowledge. It's good that you really protect yourself. You don't want to bring anything home. Cheating is never the right thing. Just tried. I would assume, because you've gotten busted in the past, that you would be really smart about the way you do things now so that you wouldn't get busted.
Starting point is 00:44:54 right yes yeah but i also do you think you know like i kind of feel like cheating is a kink obviously right it's got it's got it's got to be it's not like it's not like yeah because it's not like i don't do it like out of spite i'm not i'm not like i am hiding it but i mean it's it's part of something that's turning you on like it wouldn't be it wouldn't be the same i don't know yeah fortunately if she came out and said you could go back and say go ahead and yeah I go let's be in an open relationship. I probably like, eh, I don't want to do that anymore. Isn't that so sad that cheating sex like is so fully charged and people could get addicted to it?
Starting point is 00:45:33 And there's something hot about it, unfortunately. Sad but true. But isn't it what kink is, though? I guess. Yeah. I mean, cheating kink. Yeah, maybe that's what you got. A lot of people got it.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Listen, I have cheaters on my show. I like to show those stories because I think there's all different types of cheaters. You can't put them all into the same category. And I'm always appreciative when somebody like you calls in and is very honest. I mean, because some people are going to be like he's a fucking scumbag. You know what I mean? Some people just have zero tolerance. But I appreciate honesty about stuff like this because I think it's important for people to kind of know.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Because this is like the way some people roll. Yeah. For better for worse. So what's your last case? My next challenge. Oh, so there's two challenges. The multi-guide challenge is one. And then also I want to find the biggest
Starting point is 00:46:24 I don't I've never everybody goes Oh in high school I was with a college I saw this guy used to be on my football team He had a night 11 stick and I'm like I never saw anybody I don't never see anything like I never Everybody's looked the same when the Marine Corps like We shower together and it was like I keep your eyes straight shower get out
Starting point is 00:46:41 Like it was like I wasn't snooping around I don't remember that I ever I was seeing anything above normal above average Yeah So That's another thing. Now I kind of just want to find anything like over eight inches. I don't think it. I don't know. Yeah, I get it. That's how your brain is. Like you think about it. And now you got to have that.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Listen, I think you're going to, because you call into my show, I'm going to give you free access to my Discord. There's over a thousand people on there, maybe even 1,500 at this point. And people on Discord could do whatever they want on there. You could post picks, videos. People are hooking up with people. Go over there, Raoul. And make sure to be like, I'm Raoul from this episode when your episode, comes up okay i will when your episode comes out it will be you'll get free access to my discord to go on there and maybe you'll find some guys that you're looking for to pick it the pick it that's good the big that'd be awesome yeah i mean that's what's going down over there i mean that's next on your bucket list listen roel thank you so much for calling in i think episodes like this are super interesting
Starting point is 00:47:41 because there's a lot of guys that are rolling like you and no one's still talking about it married guy yeah married straight guy suck a dick sometimes and what i think it's super interesting yeah Why not? I love it. And what I think is super interesting about your story is that you really didn't have an inkling. I mean, that's one part of it that I haven't heard before. But, you know, I bet you there's, of course, because it's your story, it's going to be other people's stories. So it'll be relatable to people. And I think that that's always interesting. So thank you, Roel. Thanks so much for calling in. Thank you. I appreciate you having me. I'll see you. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called strictly anonymous confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from
Starting point is 00:48:41 each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right?
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