Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 715 - Billy is Into Gloryholes for Women, Anonymous BJs Outdoors and More

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Billy Procida, host of the Manwhore podcast, hosted gloryholes for women during the pandemic and he called in to talk all about it. How and why he decide to set up his DIY gloryhole? How did he set the whole thing up? How many women showed up for the experience? And, what exactly went down with them? Tune in to hear all the details including what he was looking for when he posted his ad, who responded and what they were looking to get out of the experience, the women who showed up including the lesbian who wanted to see what it was like to suck a d, the orthodox Jewish girl who came multiple times and exactly what went down her, the one woman who wanted more from the gloryhole and why he wasn’t down, the outdoor bj he had with a stranger outside, the night nurse who had a really weird fantasy she wanted to fulfill and exactly what went down with them, the dom with the male sub who he had a bukkake with, the stranger her he met in a park who had friend watching her while she gave him a bj, how and why he has had only non monogamous relationships since he was 19, how coming from abundance is key to getting laid more plus a whole lot more. Check out Manwhore podcast here: http://manwhorepod.com/itunes  Everything else Billy here: - http://linktr.ee/billyprocida **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But if you want to be a member of the Discord and get a member of the Discord and get a all the other Patreon benefits, go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Now, the link and the phone number to my confessions line and my website, all that information is in the description. Today's guest, okay, so today I have on Billy Proceda from the Manhorror podcast. He's been on before. Now, if you're a long time listener of my show, you might remember that the last time he came on, we got in a fight.

We talk about that. I don't really remember what it was, but we kind of get on a fight on this episode. too. It's more towards the end. But like I promise you, Billy's like fucking cool. We spoke for a long time after this episode. It's a fight, quote, unquote. I think we're both opinionated people. We had a little argument this time, but we got past it this time. Like I said, I spoke with him afterwards. But before that fight, that like I said, happens at the end. He talks about all kinds of crazy things, anonymous sex stuff that he did during COVID. I mean, the creativity of this man, you're going to fucking give him props. Okay, he set up like a glory whole thing in his house

and I put an ad on Reddit, got people to come over. He talks about that. He talks about the fact that he did that or tried to do that recently. And he talks about the difference between what went down during COVID and what went down during not COVID. He had some other anonymous sex hookups. Mostly everything that he did on this call that we're talking about involves blow jobs because it was COVID. So people were masked up, but there's a lot of blow jobs. There's a lot of actions, a lot of super interesting stories that happened because each one was very different. He's not someone that only gets blowjobs. He's in the lifestyle.

He goes to sex parties. He has open relationships. We talk about that. We talk about what we fight about it more towards the end is I was like looking for him to give information for guys to get girls to be down with the fact that you're open and you want to fuck other people because he has been in mostly non-monogamous relationships, he says, since he's 19. and then he got a little mad at me, but eventually I do get some tips from him for you guys that want to roll with being, you know, yourself putting it out there that you're a horny fucking guy, you want to fuck a lot and you want to let your girl know and still have relationships. He has had some relationships with girls and they've been open. So that's what we kind of fight about and talk about towards the end. It's super interesting. I think you're, I think you'll think our little fight is interesting. I'm always down for a good debate, okay? I love it. I've always been debating people. It's like, breathing for me, no big deal. And that's why, you know, after we ended the podcast, we wound up talking for half hour. I don't hold anything against him.

I'm down, like I said, for a good fight. We had one. Got past it. He's super cool. He's got a great podcast. You're definitely going to want to go check it out and listen to a couple of episodes that he references on this episode because what he does on the manor podcast is like he has sex with people or does stuff with girls.

And then he invites him to come on his show and talk about it. So a couple of the girls that he had at his glory hole came on. And one of them I was like, oh my God, I want to hear that episode. So he gives a shout out to that episode as well as to his podcast. You're going to want to check it out. I put all of his links in the description. But you're going to love his COVID sex stories. Okay.

It's super interesting. And I think you'll find the fight at the end entertaining. And I think you'll find his advice as well, his guy advice at the end, interesting and informative. So anyway, I'm going to be. right back on with Billy. Hi, Billy. Proceed. I said your fucking name wrong already. Proceda. Hello. Welcome back to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. You've been on before. You have your own podcast and you've been podcasting like I've been podcasting since the dawn of time. Like we started podcasts. Thank God a long time ago. I'm always like I'm so glad I started a long time ago because now everyone has one and I think it would have been harder for us. We were doing it like nine years ago, right? Eight years ago, the Manhorror podcast has been around. for that long? Yeah, my 10-year podaversary is going to be in April. Not only does everyone in their mother of a podcast, I feel like everyone's got, everyone has a sex podcast now. People will be like,

I host a sex podcast. Why? Well, like my management says I'm really hot and hot people talk about sex. So, you know, I know really nothing other than like how to put something inside of something. So, but here I am talking about sex. And oh my gosh, rope. Oh, and G. But I mean, you were on my before and I got your whole backstory and we're going to get a lot of your stories on this show. But what's interesting about your show is like the concept of it was what you would do is fuck your exes, right? And then talk about it. Isn't that what like the premise was? No, no, I would, I would, I would invite. Bring them on. Yeah, I would talk to my exes, my ex hookups, former partners, whatever and talk about sex dating and why we didn't work out. Yeah. And it's not like

you were like a regular guy talking about sex and dating. It wasn't like vanilla sex and dating stories. I mean, you happen to be pretty open-minded. I mean, we're going to talk about glory holes on here and anonymous sex and non-monogamy. You're pretty open-minded when it comes to SCX, correct? It's not like you were talking about regular dating. That's correct. I mean, it depends on the guests. I've guessed who were more vanilla than others.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a little bit more out there and creative during COVID, right? That's where we're going to go eventually because you were. I'm always obsessed with the glory hole stories because I just talked to a girl who did the reverse glory hole, which is the girl glory hole, which I hadn't really heard of.

I was like, oh my God, please paint that picture because I couldn't even understand how it was. But like when I think, oh, Billy says he started doing glory holes during COVID, I'm like, so what was he doing? Was he sticking his dick in and letting guys suck him off? Was he going in and sucking guys off? Was it with girls? I already had a million questions. Do you want to start with the creative ways you wound up having sex during COVID? Yeah.

I mean, the glory hole was partly the city government told us safer to use glory holes. Or as they didn't use the word glorial. They were like to have sex using like a physical barrier between your bodies, which is a glorial. Totally. And I'm a bootlicker. So I listened to my government. And so I started doing, hang, I had an apartment at the time that lended really well to that type of a setup. So yeah, I would, I would propose.

read it and a lot of women seemed really interested in trying. I think there was an element of okay if there were a time where I was going to suck some strangers dick using a glory hole, this is the time to do it. Yeah. And there were a lot of women who were like just kind of down. And also so many people were craving being sexual because they couldn't be. So I think that was also an element of it. And you know, for me it was an element of I like getting my dick sucked. And so this is a great way to do. Oh, my God, I love it. Slow it down.

I want to hear. Okay. So you decide to, this is what you're going to do. Did you build a glory hole in your apartment? No, I'm so low tech. I bought a curtain. I cut a hole through it. Okay.

The way the apartment, that apartment was laid out was where like I could prop a door. I had a side door that went straight into my space from the street. So like I could prop that open. They go down this hallway. And so before the hallway opened up into like my full bedroom. room that was like where I could hang it and I wouldn't be disturbed by roommates or neighbors or anything. Okay.

My second question is that when you put out that ad, were you Billy from the podcast or were you Joe Schmoe wanting to do an anonymous glory hole? I've been doing slutty shit on Reddit since I think 2012, 2013. I've always been, I'm very much me, which I think is part of why I've had success with really fun sexual encounters on Reddit because I don't. use a throwaway. It is me. It is my handled. It is even before I had the podcast, right? And that transparency makes a lot of people, particularly women, feel safer. I think a lot of people are so nervous to be found out that they like to have sex, that they like hide their identity on

lot. They're like, well, what if my boss finds out? Your boss, one, is not going to find out that you ate some strange, some woman you've never met before out. But also, even if he did, you're not getting fired for that. But everyone's just so hung up about people finding out that they have sex, that they want to hide so much. And that's fine if that's your comfort level. But you never had that. I haven't really had that. What I'm saying is when people do that, the trade-off is there's less transparency, which makes people feel less instantly comfortable. And so you might get less success. Yeah. The more transparent you are, the more likelihood I think you have of having some really cool encounters. So yeah, I would put those posts out. And so if somebody wanted to like,

look, if somebody wants to still not know what I look like, great, don't investigate further. But if somebody wants to poke around and be like, geez, if I go to this stranger's apartment, they can see, okay, well, here's his name. There's some accountability there if I were to do something monstrous. And then the tradeoff for me is okay. People will know that I like some anonymous blow jobs, but I will also get anonymous blow jobs. Right, right, right. But they also know, because your Billy Proceda on Reddit, they also could see that you have this legit podcast if you were going to fucking kill them.

Like, none of that's going to go down because you're so transparent and out there. In the public, guys. It definitely helps. Yeah, I think that that's smart. Okay, so what did you say in your Reddit post? What was it? Like, come to my glory hole and suck me off. And was it for men or women or just women?

Oh, it was for women. I would be pretty clear about dudes like, hey, guys, please. I would include some kind of line usually. Hey, guys, please don't make an attempt. Because, like, even if they did trick their way into getting to that side of the curtain, if I can detect that it's a dude, like, I'm just going to, I just said, hey, I'm going to stop us in the middle and it's going to be awkward for both of us. So just like, I would get guys who answered and, but they would say they were men.

They'd be like, hey, are men allowed? And I would just be like, no, thank you. And they'd be like, oh, okay. But, and I had like my ways of knowing ultimately at the end of it. all like who who came through. I had some safety things set up. So I was able to kind of also check and be like, hey, what would that person look?

Okay, cool. My next question is how many people responded? Did you get way more responses than you expected? Did you get not that many? Yeah. No, let me tell you, I've actually this year I tried in my current apartment. I tried a few times to see if any women want to visit a glory hole at my apartment in this calendar year.

And I got zero hits, right? Whereas in during COVID, so like end of 2020, early 2021, I'm just guessing, I think probably about maybe a half dozen women came through. One of one, a couple of them have been on the podcast already. One of them we did a glory hole podcast. So she visited my glory holes like three times. We fucked during the final time where like I laid underneath the curtain. and then she just, and she got on top of me. I still couldn't see her.

She couldn't see me. Oh, my God. So he did that. And then so when I invited her to do the podcast, hey, how would you feel about doing an episode? But separated by the curtain. Like, I'll stick the microphone through the glory hole and you hold it and we'll have a conversation.

And at the end, we'll pull the curtain back and reveal ourselves to each. Oh, I love that. What's that episode? Give that episode number out so that people, because I'm going to put a link to your podcast in the description. so people want to hear that episode sounds interesting. Do you remember the number? Not the number, but it's called the glory hole episode.

And it would have came out in 2021. Okay, cool. So they won't roll back a little bit. Yeah, 300 something, right? Yeah. And so, but then she says, hey, love to do it. Do you think I could suck your dick one more time as a stranger? So when she came over to record, we like, I stuck my dick in first.

She blew me. And you can actually hear in the very, very beginning. Like I think you can kind of hear me come and then Russell to give her the microphone through the curtain and there's a chair on the other side ready for her. And so we went straight from her sucking my dick to talking for an hour on microphone to pulling the curtain back and be like, oh, so that's what you look like. Wow. That must have been a really great episode. I'm dying to know the reveal, but maybe we don't want to give it out so that people go listen out for now. I'm kind of curious how you guys felt when you saw each other.

I wasn't angry. Okay. Yeah. All right, let's go back to the. I want to hear about all these girls. So you get these emails. Now, because it's a gloryhole experience, I'm assuming that you're not looking for,

no one's sending out pictures back and forth, right? Yeah, I actually request, I'm like, please don't send a picture because they'll ruin it. I'd hate to just get a normal blow job. Don't ruin it for me. Right. But now, did you put a dick pick? I mean, did they ask for any kind of pictures or anything?

Or was there like no pick of you? Of course, you said no picks of them. them, but did you put, was there any picks of you? I don't remember specifically, but if they asked for a dick pick, I probably sent them one. Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't think I sent them face picks. It was kind of like, if you want to investigate, it's very easy to see what I look like. Yeah, yeah, that's great. And if you enjoy the idea of not knowing what I look like, then just don't go around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, frankly, the chick who did the Gloria whole episode, she didn't even know the name of the podcast, which is kind of crazy because, like, I had these like live show poster. When I pre-COVID, I would do like live podcasts. And so I would have like big posters for this to be on stage. And at that apartment, I had a lot of them like hanging up in that hallway. You would walk through.

And so when later she said, yeah, I didn't even know the name of the show. Because like you could. She said, I didn't know what you look like. I was like you didn't peek. I didn't even know the name. And I said, how did you not know the name of the podcast? There was like posters with the name and big letters as you walk by each time you visited. She said, I thought that was maybe just a podcast.

you were a big fan of. Oh my God, that's so funny. I hope I had someone who's that big of a fan out there who has like posters of me. Sometimes I wish I was that uncurious as a person. Do you know what you mean? Don't you think? Like I would just, I would have never missed any of that shit.

It's just. Yeah. And then like I had a, I had like a lesbian came through because she wanted to try sucking a dick. She never played with a dick before and she's not into men, but she wanted to give a blow job. So a glory hole for her was perfect. because we're removing the whole guy part from the equation,

and now it's just a dick. And I got to tell you, I've never heard someone spit come out louder. Oh my God. Than the lesbian. Yeah, I think I'd really confirm for her. Like, I don't know if I need to give, I'll stick to latex dildos for blowjobs.

Oh, my God. That's fucking fascinating. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, tell me some other stories from those girls that came. So one was a lesbian. And when was this girl that was like not curious at all, but totally curious about sucking a strange guy's dick, okay? And came back for more. There's one chick who's ultra-Orthodox Jewish, not Hasidic, but ultra-Orthodox Jewish, the type where she's supposed to give side hugs to men at most, right?

And there's a thing in Judaism called Seneas and is all that. But for some reason, in her relationship with her gods, she had decided that sucking a dick that where she's not. Not touching the guy. Yeah. Was fair game. So she came over and gave me a lot of blowjobs through the Glory Hulk. That was her way to, in her justification, be sexual without breaking the rules. Yeah, don't you love it?

Because, listen, we all do it, right? We reframe things to make ourselves okay with whatever we want to make ourselves okay with, right? We all have that fucking ability. And it's, I love hearing stuff like that because it's so interesting. And that's the way she was able to suck your dick and not feel bad about it. Yeah, yeah. Framed it in her mind. When I had a good time.

I mean, she came back a bunch of times, that one. Yeah. But the first time I actually, the first time during COVID, I hooked up with someone who wasn't my girlfriend. I had a girlfriend at the time. And when we got to like the summer and like cases were going down in New York City and we and my girlfriend and I had this negotiated like expanding our circle a little bit. And so my first experience.

was with this woman from Reddit who we wanted to do an outdoors blowjob because, again, outdoors. Yeah. Right. So I drove like somewhere in the Bronx or Westchester. And we found this, I found this like side street that was like really industrial. There's no residential on that street. And it's all stuff that looks like closed down or maybe they're not reopened yet, whatever. So it was like, I think a Tuesday at like in the afternoon and I drove over there.

And the plan was like I would tell her when I was there and she knew where to go. She would just kind of walk down that side street. And so she saw the car and she just kind of walks up to the car. I'm sitting in the driver's seat with like my legs out. And she wanted me to wear a mask still. I wore a mask with my, you know, sitting outside of my car. And she just got on her knees and sucked. my dick and then and then asked me to take a couple pictures of it and then left and then that was it.

Wow. I don't even, I don't know her full, real, whatever name. I couldn't find she later, I think just sometimes people do this because they want to kind of cut ties or ensure anonymity or sometimes they delete their accounts. Some people block or delete their accounts when they don't want to be revisited. Sometimes they want to leave the encounter for what it was. So she walks away with this big smile with a face full of come and then I, I, I, I, I, I couldn't find her if I wanted to have her on the podcast. I wouldn't, I don't know how to find it.

That is just an experience. I'll have to leave as it. Fascinating. So, you know, I had some stuff like that. There was a woman who like, we arranged me like hiding a key outside. So she could, she was a night nurse at a hospital here in the city. And so after her shift, she wanted to come over. And we arranged so she would come over.

And I'd be on top of my covers like 5 a.m. 6 a.m. She'd sneak in. Give me, give me some head. and then go into bed. And then after her shift, she says, I take an ambient and I just pass out. She's, I want to take an ambient and pass out in your bed. And then when I'm fully out, I want you to have sex with me. Wow.

So she wanted you to fuck her after she was like comatose. Yeah. She was kind of like in and out during it happening. Oh, okay. That's what she wants. And I required a lot of negotiation. Yeah. We did a lot of back and forth about, yeah, well, it was on the table, off the table, when I would stop, how we would communicate that.

Ultimately, with that situation, you know, she's kind of like, look, once I've done it, like, I'm saying, yes, you go ahead and do it and just do it. There's not really a way to, like, kind of save for it out of that. But that's, like, what she wants. That's her fantasy. So after I've gotten everything very negotiated and, you know, screenshotable format, we did that. And so when she came over, she blew. me a bit, then, like, she takes her ambias, she went to bed. And this is, like, six-ish in the morning, six-thirty in the morning. I got up and I just went to my computer, did some work for a while.

And then after she was, like, properly out, then I started kind of like tugging it, right? I got myself aroused, got myself hard. And then that's why I, like, kind of quietly and very nervously went over to the bed and just eventually, yeah, I fucked her. And it was, it was really hot. And then she kind of woke up, came to, and we snuggled a bit. And then we fooled around another couple times after that. But that, yeah, so during COVID, all this to say is I think so many people were trying to figure out ways to either be sexual as safely as they felt possible. Or I think a lot of people were using this time period to say, fuck it. I have this fantasy.

I'm going for it because the world clearly could end at any moment. So let's just go ahead and go for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love how creative everybody was. I just can't believe this shit was going down. You know what I mean? It's super interesting.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I drove the Staten Island one time and like this, this Dom lady. Again, this is still masked up. So again, all this is like wearing a mask, which is hilarious a little bit in retrospect. Yeah, yeah. She's like a Dom and she has this subby slut boy. And she wanted to have him blow dues, but like I don't not into that.

Right. So what we negotiate was like, she. she's going to jerk me off onto his face. And she's also being a little dominant with me and teasing with me. But then ultimately, when I was getting close and she's like, she's like dirty talking him. She's saying, you little stupid slut, all this stuff. And then eventually she jerks me off and I came all over this man's face.

Oh, my God. And he loved it. Where do you find her? Was she someone that responded to your ad or did you find her ad? I think I must have found her ad. That was definitely her ad one. question with these sorry with these glory holes girls and the when you set that up were you still dating your girlfriend at that time yes and no so in beginning yes and then i broke up with her the first week of january 2021 so but again we were polyamorous so it was all fair game she was having she had her people that maybe she was flown around with outside of that as well but we didn't we didn't live together so everything was like above board in that regard but yeah i had a girlfriend from part of that time, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But you guys had an open relationship. Do you only have non-monogamous relationships? Historically, the last time I had a monogamous relationship, I was 19 years old. How old are you now, by the way, do you mind say? 34. Okay, okay. So you're always rolled nomina.

How long did you date that girl for? Which one? Your ex-girlfriend during COVID. Was she on your show, I'm assuming? Yeah, we did, I think we did about a year and a half. Right. That's cool. Yeah.

And so, all right, so you put out these glory holes. You have those six girls. It sounds like a bunch of them came back for more than one time. Like it wasn't a one time setup, correct? There were a few people who did just one, like the lesbian did one. The second woman did just one. I think she wanted to be more involved than like I wanted to be. Like she started by asking if I'd suck her kit through the hole.

And I was like, okay. But then she started wanting to do more. And at the time, I just wasn't comfortable with that. Like she wanted to make out through the glory hole. which kind of feed the purpose COVID-wise. And she was like, you do this to me, can you do that? And I'm kind of like, well, that's not, this is all no negotiation. I would have preferred done over text while that ways I can say, ooh, that ways if I say,

oh, I don't think I'm going to want to finger you or I'm not going to want to make out, then you can say, oh, then I just don't want to do it at all, right? Right. Don't show up. Yeah, it's just kind of like sandbagging me, especially because of the type of scene it is, it's not something I really wanted, it's supposed to be anonymous, right? We don't see each other. We're maybe not even really hear each other too much.

So for that scene, it's not something I don't really want to negotiate in the middle. I want to set it up at the beginning so we can just do it. As opposed to if we were out on a day or if we were hooking up, quote unquote, normal. Then that's obviously like you have ongoing negotiations. People ask for things. People say yes. They say no. But not.

So I didn't invite her back the second time for that. One person came a couple of times. But I had a couple people who came multiple times, like the Orthodox Jewish chick, And you fucked? How many people did you fuck? Just the one. I mean, there's one person who visited a few times and then we fucked normal on a different time. I just went over to her apartment. Yeah. After several visits. But the only person I fucked via the curtain situation was the one who did the podcast. Right. Interesting. And so you have a very small sample. It's only six women. But because you did do this experiment and you did this research and six fucking women showed up, which is a lot. I want to know what was that type of woman that she's. You know what was that type of woman that she's. showed up. Was it across the board all different ages? I mean, you don't really, you never, you didn't see them really, right? But did you find out any kind of information on these women that was interesting? I mean, not that was interesting. Like, not too much. No. The only ones I knew more about, the ones who I eventually met without the curtain. Right. So some of them you did.

Yeah. But like that, again, that's only like after everything, like the orthodox steward, my friend who I ended up shooting some only fans content with after we had a few visits, the woman with the glory hole, but many of them, yeah, I don't know anything, but that's also kind of the point. You know, the only thing I need to know is that you're over 18, and I had an apparatus set up for that too where, like, when they were outside of my apartment, they got there before I told them, like, where the key was, they had to do like a kind of video FaceTime call with a friend of mine

and show their license. Oh, interesting. So I don't have, I didn't want to have a precocious 15-year-old like fuck my shit up. Yeah, yeah, of course. That's dangerous. It's scary. I mean, and you can, that kind of thing can fuck you up nowadays. You don't know.

So you didn't get the ages. You don't know most of the time what was on the other side. And that's, that was the whole point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, fascinating. I mean, you didn't get one person signing up for the glory hole out in a year where there is no COVID and no one fucking gives a shit anymore. But during COVID you got sex, which I do.

That's like crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was for that time. And I, and I've, I've, I've had Gloria blow jobs from women before, like, maybe a couple who I'm talking to like on, I've, I've done shit for a while. So I've gone to a Gloria old to meet up with someone specifically. And then they send me like a video afterwards of like her blowing me. But like in terms of hosting one and hosting one at my place, that was, I think it was just a special time.

What other kinds of things or hookups did you have during COVID because you were getting a lot of blowjobs, but did you have other kinds of anonymous? It sounds like you were actually also having other kinds of anonymous sex or stranger sex with people during that time as well. Because you met that girl in San Island. Yeah. Yeah. A few things here and there that would pop up and over the course of roughly whatever, however long all that was. So yeah, maybe like about a year. Yeah.

I mean, I tried a lot of stuff and it was fun. But for me, these were things I was doing pre-COVID anyway. I think for a lot of people, they were maybe just going ahead and saying, fuck it, let's do it. Yeah. And lucky for you because you had more, you had more a bigger pond to fish out of because probably those women wouldn't have been down before or after, right? Like you said.

Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I was just trying to get more stories. Oh. Yeah. I'm trying to think, I mean, in terms of glory hole ones like the. The Jewish trick was definitely interesting because then we started, she really was interested in DS Dynamics. And so we had to play around with that.

We started, when we stopped having only the glory hole involved, we started doing other things. Like, before I knew what she looked like, one time she, like, came over. And I was on my couch and my t-shirts over my face. And she took a couple pictures for me of me kind of pose like that. But then, yes, she, like, blows me while I can't, I can feel her now. and I can feel her big titties, but I still don't know what she looks like. And then we had another time where this one was pretty wild. She lives out on Long Island, and so I went out to this, we arranged this park that's near her.

And late at night, she went to a certain area of the park. And she had a friend of hers show up to play Lookout. So when I'm following the directions to get to where she's staked out among all these trees, He's like I actually, I had to pass by her friend, but that's kind of part of the point, right? Her friend's there to keep her safe. So I see this other clearly Orthodox Jewish chick on a bench just like reading a book or whatever. And like I, and we kind of make eye contact and she's, you're going to go fuck my friend's face. And I'm looking at her like, I'm about to fuck your friend's face.

Was it a girl or a guy friend? A girlfriend. Okay. Yeah. And so I go into the, into the trees and whatnot. and I find her kneeling there with a paper bag over her head with a hole cut out. And she had, she took Sharpie and she wrote a bunch of words that made her feel sexy for her.

They were like slut, whore, mouth, girl, all that type of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like degradation she was into it. Yeah, yeah. So I'm just, I'm walking into a park. I don't know. Also, the friend's kind of there to kind of low-key in case somebody's coming or if the cop showed up or something, right? She can not give the signal.

But yeah, so I walked up to a young, to a woman who was on her knees in the middle of the trees with a bag of her head. And I stuck my dick through a hole in that. And then she gave me head there. And so we did some things like that sometime. I'm a little, I'm slightly obsessed with her. Now, is that with the one that you lost contact with and you couldn't get her to come on the show? No, no, no. That was a different woman.

This woman, we, at a point she decided she wanted to try. try the whole not touching men thing again for her relationship with her God. Okay. But then we still had a little bit of a friendship going on for a while where she came over a couple times and we would hang out without touching in a non-sexual way. And sometimes it'd be she's already going to be in the city. Hey, could I come by? She got me a gift for my birth. She bought me a vinyl for my birthday. That was very sweet of her. So yeah, there's a little bit of that then. I don't know what she's up to these days. Like I said, sometimes people will cut contact just for the purpose of kind of moving on from something or if they're scared or ashamed of something.

Religion obviously plays like a large role in sexual shame. So I hope she's off there doing well. But I think last time we checked, it was like, hey, I'm going to block your number. And she's off doing orthodox Judaism how she wants to. Yeah. Now, are you in a relationship now or do you still doing like anonymous sex? I mean, what's your deal now? I mean, I don't think any of that stuff is like mutually exclusive, but I am single.

I'm not out there really dating. I'm barely, if at all, swiping. I'm not really pursuing any romantic relationships right now. I've been doing a lot of work on me. I went through a really big breakup last year, and I won't say I'm completely over it. But I'm newly open to romantic connections should they come my way, but I'm not like pursuing, like, I'm swiping so I can go on dates. It's more if I meet someone out in the wild and we click, I'm open to seeing where that went,

but I'm not, I'm not like. You're not ready yet. But as a guy who's had a lot of non-monogamous relationships, that's all you've had since you're 19. Because I have a large audience and they're always, they'd love to be at a non-monogamous relationship. But I think a lot of times they don't know how to put it on the table, when to bring that up on a date. I mean, when you're out there looking or when you have dated people, like how do you roll? How do you bring that kind of stuff up?

Because you, A, have a podcast, you're a public person. You're going to go out on a date. What if someone doesn't know? Do you have, what is your process of telling people how that you want a non-monogamous relationship? This is what you do. I don't think any, I mean, again, I'm in a unique situation, both because, like, how public I am and like what my living is, what my job is.

But I don't think there's been a single person who has gone on a first date with me and I was non-monogamous, right? It's not even like a whole telling thing. I mean, it's usually in my profile. Like, it's always in my profile. It's always in there. Okay, well, that's a poor. It's just easier.

People self-select. But it's usually not an issue because also there's people who, like, they may see that and go, oh, well, I don't know if I would want a romantic relationship with him, but like he's cute and I might have sex with him. Yeah. What app do you like? I mean, these days I have no idea, right? I haven't really been using them. but Field is great and then Tinder's like a classic.

And I like Bumble, but I don't think Bumble likes me. I don't know. I always feel like I've gotten, I think I've gone on the least amount of dates from Bumble in my history. And also it's a, it's an app where, you know, I don't get to make a first move. So there's also, again, to less conversations on Bumble than, say, Tinder or Field. I also use, I've used for hookups, I've used Reddit. And back in the day, I used Craigslist. But again, like, I also meet people out in the wild and I go to sex parties and just, I mean, geez, like I, you know, hooked up with a chick after a comedy show on Friday last Friday because I just happened, yeah.

You're a comedian and girls like to fuck comedians. I mean, I worked in comedy with comedians all the time. They're kind of like rock stars. You stand on a stage and you command an audience and girls like fall for you during that time. It's just a fucking fact. I remember going to see Rush in concert and I like want to. fuck Getty Lee afterwards. Why? Because he's hot. No, he's fucking repulsive looking, but because he's like on stage singing. That's how girls are. Yeah, but that wears off, I think, a half hour after the show's over. Yeah, but you got that time. If you're smart and you're comedian, I know a lot of comedians that would use it to their advantage. Oh, I know a lot of comedians. Last Friday was the very first time I've ever hooked up after a comedy show with someone from the audience who like, I didn't know. I've had people like they came to the show because we had talked about it and then we hook up.

I have brought people to a comedy show I'm not on and we've hooked. I've met people from the audience when I'm just hanging at it. I've never just, I did a show and some chick comes to talking me afterwards and then we hook up. That's never happened before. I had a two or three months try to spell this year, but it was kind of self-imposed. I just didn't feel like fucking. So like I was turning sex down. But like again, it's kind of because I don't know, I'm not, when you don't come from a place

of scarcity when it comes to sex. It's becomes there's less pressure and you're freaking out less of like, shit, when am I going to fuck again? I'm like, I'll fuck again. I know it's there. I just, you know, I'm not like accepting all sexual offers all the time on the off chance. I'll never fuck again. I think a lot of dudes come from a place of scarcity and they should come from a place of

abundance and confidence. Yeah, but in order for them to do that, though, Billy, is they have to live like you. They have to get into the life. They have to go to sex party. Okay, so what's your advice for them to live in abundance and not be in open relationships? It's a mindset. It's not a literal fact. One, abundance is different to other people.

I said I went through a two or three months dry spell earlier this year. Other people would say, what? I only have sex every two to three months. It's all relevant, but it's a mindset. When you come from a place of scarcity with anything, you're more desperate, you're more nervous, you're lacking confidence, you're more scared. For sure. But it's not about, coming from a place of abundance doesn't mean I have a lot of sex.

It's just an attitude to have. So that way you're not freaking out. If you come from a place of scarcity with sex and then an opportunity is maybe presented, now the stakes are so high because you're like, fuck, if this doesn't work out, if I don't get the fucker, or if it's not good or my dick doesn't work. I don't know when the next time's going to be. Now, you might not actually know when the next time's going to be either way. But if you're come from a place of abundance, I think you're going to be more relaxed. I think you're going to have a better time. Your dick might work better. You two might connect

better. And you know what? That might lead to more. Come from a place of abundance means because I'm confident that like things are going to happen and it's going to be fine. Sometimes they just kind of end up working out that way, doesn't it? Yeah, but being realistic. Okay, Billy, because you've been around for a long time. No, no, no, no, I'm not telling you. No, no, no, no, no, no, stop, stop. We already had a fight in our last podcast. We're not going to fight again this time. You're going to give me a little fucking five seconds to talk, okay?

I'm not talking about you being realistic. You are, of course, being realistic. It's your fucking life. You're telling me what you think because of what you've lived. I'm not a fucking guy. But what I'm going to say is that you are like so far end on a spectrum, right? And then there's a guy, another type of guy besides you that doesn't, that lives in abundance when it comes to what you're talking about happens to be like a fucking hot guy that's got

game that's got money and those guys yeah they show up they're fucking cocky they're not coming from that place that you're talking about because they could fuck chicks all the and they have been their whole life i know those guys i fuck those guys okay but there's so many guys out there the majority of guys that they're just not able to be players they're not in the lifestyle they're not professionals and on a stage that just don't live in abundance. And that regular guy doesn't know how to pretend that they have abundance because they don't fucking have it. I think nowadays, guys, it's different.

Girls fuck a lot more. They have one night stands. They're very different than they were 20 years ago. I grew up with those people. Most guys that I know didn't have abundance in their life because girls, they wouldn't fuck them unless they were dating them. I mean, it was a different time. So I just think that you have never lived in that regular world.

But I high five you, but I high five you for that. Kathy, I've been, I've been that guy. Okay. You're assuming that like I haven't been the guy you just described. Okay, maybe you were. Okay, so then you understand. The sex doesn't come first. And then you have the attitude.

You have to have the attitude to be attractive and attract that sex in your life and attract women or whatever genders you're trying to attract. Like you have to figure out how to fake it. Okay. But I, you know what? I think that there's a type of person that could fake it till they make it. And then there's some people that can't. I could never fake anything until I made it.

I just, I think everyone's different. I think some people, yeah, they become very successful because they could fucking fake it till they make it in any sort of area. But some people can't. I'm not that type. I can't fake anything until I make it. I have to actually be it to fucking be because I'm like a very honest person. So I don't necessarily think that. Everyone could do that.

I get that that's, we can teach a class to, no, but yes, listen, I think that, everybody can do it. 100% and I think you could teach a class on that and guys should

fucking take it because that is a great thing that you could teach someone. I just don't think in reality that a lot of guys have that. And there aren't a million classes and they don't take the classes or they don't listen to your podcast. You're not teaching them. I take a class, right? I didn't take a class. Right.

I just like. I know, but you're a professional and you have a podcast and you're a speaker. this for a reason. You're because you're not average. You're assuming something about my history. That's not true. Okay. You do have a podcast. You do have a podcast.

It's not true. No, Kathy, Kathy. It's not true. Okay. You don't think, before I had the podcast, yeah, it was a very sexual person. But what came before I was being a sexual person? Okay. Here's another example of like why the scarcity might.

Also, I'm not a, I'm just a comedian with a fuck show. I don't want to teach a class. So guys, keep your money. I mean, give me your money, but like, I'm not telling you should teach a class. I'm just saying that unless you do, they don't fucking know it. Okay. Guys, just listen for free right now. scarcity mindset.

Now I know why we fought the first time. Oh my God. I wish we were doing a podcast. No, I'm as opinionated as you. So just allow me to be as fucking stubborn and as opinionated as you. Don't fucking stop me in my tracks because I'm not stopping you. I'm just talking back and giving my opinion back.

Okay. So you want to give it? Learn how to take it. That's what I don't like. I like a good fucking, listen to me. I love a good fucking debate. And it doesn't have to turn like, No, you're not open.

I'm open to what you're saying. Be open to what I'm saying. That's it. End of story. Keep going. The only thing I will, I'm always going to push back if you assume something about me.

That's fine. I'm going to push back if I don't think you're right. That's the way I roll. That's why we both have shows and have microphones in our hand, okay? You can't tell me what I did in my, you can't tell me how I was when I was 18, 19, I didn't.

I let you explain how you were. I let you explain. No, no, no, I let you explain. And you explained it. I didn't tell you you weren't that way. I said, okay, that's it. But I'm just saying that unless you teach those people how you changed it, a lot of guys don't know how to do that.

You did. I would high-five you for that, but a lot of guys can, and you can't not know that about guys. Sorry. Kathy, I'm trying to share this right now. Great. Do another example. Do it.

Another way of coming from scarcity makes you nervous, makes you scared. There's a lot of pressure. That's not, you can kind of read that off of somebody. Right? Like you could, that they kind of emulate. You could smell it from a mile away. Right. So you kind of just have to not.

And you have to find your own individual way to get there. For me, I was hanging around a lot. I hang. All my friends are like women. So I've heard women's issues, struggles, frustrations, right? And so take that into my interactions with other women. And I'm empathetic. And I'm like, I'm not trying to get laid.

I mean, honestly, I think the thing that gets in the way of so many guys who are trying to get laid is the fact, that they are trying quote unquote trying to get late right if you're sincerely trying to connect with human beings and sometimes those human beings want to touch your penis or we'll let you just eat them out and frankly like you should all be guys more oral can i just say that well give more oral none of you are giving enough oral like even if you think you are add 20 percent you need to be more oral yeah no girl's gonna turn that down Right. So there's just when you can sniff that off of a guy, it's kind of this like nice guy mentality. And I, I suffered from that a lot. And it's not, no one's saying don't be a nice guy. It's just there are different ways to be a nice guy. And there's a way to be a confident nice guy. And there's a way to be a really meek and mild nice guy. And then there are nice guys who aren't nice guys, but they don't have the humility to admit that they're not purely a nice guy. And then that's going to get in your way. I think we see that a lot of times with a lot of times. lot of like assault cases and whatnot where guys go, I couldn't have done that. I'm a nice guy. It's like a reverse engineer type of a thing, right? So I'm just saying you have to find your

own way to do it. But just like for one thing, stop being just put less pressure on getting laid and just connect with a human. When I go on a date, if I go to a sex party, whatever, my goal, if I end up being interested in her, is I want to make out. That's my goal. Everything else is bonus. right and also that puts the bar for success way low right because then if the bar is just kissing then that's not the most difficult hurdle to clear if we have a connection if we're clicking and then if we do more great but if we didn't fuck then I'm not leaving disappointed yeah I get it I mean listen the old listen where I was going with this conversation when it first started off is where I'm typically going in all of my conversations with people is

trying to help my audience get tips, right, from my callers. A lot of my callers are people who are in the lifestyle or doing things that people just fucking dream of. That's why people are listening to my show. They're like, how do I get my fucking wife to be a hot wife? How do I get my girl into non-monogamy? So really, why I started that conversation to you was not to tell you how you lived or what you do, but to get you to sort of give people advice on how they become someone as open as you

and able to meet girls that are cool with all the stuff that you're into because a lot of guys just don't know how to get there. They're all as horny as you are. They all would love to get fucking blowjubs like you do. They'd all love to meet a girl in a park and try all these crazy things, but they're just not there. So really, I was just looking for you to give some advice on how to put it out there on a date, how to put it on an app.

You know what I mean? That's really where I was going. It wasn't like about analyzing you. It was about like, how do you help guys to become more? like you and when I say you're an expert you kind of are and there's nothing wrong with that it's great you can teach people teach my fucking audience you got 10 minutes that's it i'll address the the needs of the answer quick the again the only thing i i i just i don't there's just reference to well bill you've kind of always been like and it's you know no we're already established you weren't like that

all your whole life that makes it accessible listen you were 14 there's no way you were born that way i know that okay no no no i'm talking like in college i mean i'm again i have not always been since sort of coxmith. And even like I go to sex parties. Right. That's why, but you are now. And that's why your story or your advice is interesting. That's what's perfect about it. And just that's it. I'm a man. So maybe I understand that men are going to connect to this a little. Just hear me out. It's they need to hear that I have like they did. You explained it 10 fucking times. You already did. I allowed you to tell your fucking before story. We all know that. Okay. I accept it. know what they need some guys need to hear and that's what i'm trying to say you could just yes but we

already established you weren't that guy and you are now so and so you explain the way to do that is to you know is how to do it that's it okay we don't need to go back to your past okay but this is here's the problem with the guys who want the tips with it's the goal setting i think is oftentimes getting the way one of the examples you gave was like how do i get my wife to be a hot wife well first did you think about does she want to that? There's a lot of guys who I think, especially in sex, they think of sex or any sort of, whether it's a fetish or an event or a sex act, whatever it is, just, but we're going to call all of it sex for a moment. Sex is like this goal to get, right? And it's not a collab, a lot of guys aren't seeing it as a collaboration with another human being, or if you're

like me, sometimes with three, four, five plus human beings, but sex is like more of a collaboration. And in part of that, in a collaboration, sometimes you always get what you want. So there's a different. So I would just, I think a lot of guys and people, but especially guys could have some more success or have easier times if they would kind of just retool the questions. So the question should be, how do I get my wife to be a hot wife? It should be how do I go to my wife and say, hey, I've got this fantasy. Because the second one allows space for her to just ultimately not want that. And then you have to just kind of be okay with that. Or you can say, I'm I want a hot wife scenario so badly I will leave my wife and find somebody else who wants to do that.

But how do I get her to be a hot wife? It's inherently by any means necessary, even if it's at her discomfort, I'm going to turn my wife to no hot wife. And it may sound subtle, but the linguistics matter. The language matters. The language kind of informs how we're thinking about it and how we think about it, I think is how we end up tackling it and how we get or don't get what we want. Yeah, I mean, it's just my line of course. I mean, my whole point of that thing was that the guy who has been successful at that gives tips to others. And I've had those tips from many guys that are successful.

So really it wasn't about what do you think you should do. It's more just about in that situation because I know you have a history of not being that guy, but now you've always been in non-monogamous relationships. You've always been able to be super open. You're in the lifestyle. And you've been able to have long-term partnerships. And I sometimes think that that's a hard line to run. as far as having a girl to take that seriously

because maybe they're afraid, oh, like, how do I fall in love with the guy that wants to fuck everybody? What's that kind of a thing? Well, sometimes the answer is then don't, right? There's a lot of people. No, but you told me before we got on the phone that you had a whole thing about Mannhorn

that you didn't ever think you were like that lovable because you fucked a lot of people. I just hand fed you the line to talk about that. I didn't take it. I'm a little autistic. I need to be a little more explicit. I'm not going to edit that out. Okay.

Okay. I mean, I am. I just, I don't know what I tell you. Yeah. So, so it's just more, look, you say I've been in long-term relationships. I've had a few girlfriends over the years, right? Because I mean, I don't enter girlfriend, boyfriend, right? It's more like it with a same. I don't, I'm not, I don't every three months say I have a new girlfriend. But I've had a few girlfriends. And none of them have made it two years, right? So it's, it's not, oh, I've been in all these monogamous romantic relationships. I've just had a lot of sexual relationships. I've had a lot of sexual friendships. I've had a lot of sexual friendships. that have been long term. But no, I haven't been successful in a long-form romantic. And do you think the whole man-whore thing has been an issue? Because that's what you did tell me. And I said, oh, that's actually something we should talk about. Because I think that's interesting. It's something that you typically think that women have that issue because I had that issue.

I can't tell you how many guys when I was younger said, okay, you're like not the kind of girl you marry. You're like the kind of girl you fuck. I heard that many times. And I thought it was so super interesting that you felt the same way. I think that's why a lot of women connected with my podcast when I launched a day. they were hearing a guy complain about wanting a relationship and the woman always telling me they wanted to keep it casual because that's typically seen as a as a woman problem. And frankly, over the last decade, I've heard a lot of men privately tell me that they've experienced that, that they felt that way. But when we speak in such gender language and generality that maybe aren't as true as we think they are, but we just kind of culturally believe them, then it kind of furthers that stigma.

and then it does feel weird to be a guy who wants a relationship and she wants to fuck. And then you start feeling bad about yourself because society is saying, well, this is what I'm expected. I'm supposed to want to fuck everyone and everything all the time. I've been facing that this calendar year where I've been feeling a little weird about like, I'm not like excited to fuck a bunch of people right now. And I'm not having, I mean, granted, I did say like I hooked up with someone last Friday, but again, for scale, for me, it's that's slow or whatever.

but it's it's I just I think it's harmful when we speak in such gender generalities because then it just furthers stuff and it makes us feel bad and shameful and so yes I think a lot of women connected with the show in the beginning so I would say women would sleep with me but they wouldn't date me and I want to find out why and they're like gosh I can relate to that and there are a lot of men who can relate to but they don't feel like they have cultural permission to relate to that because there's supposed to be a man. The way we measure men, it's like, how much money did you make? How strong are you? How many chicks do you fuck? That's how we, if we're culturally, if that's how we speak about it and go, what's a real man, then that's what people think a real man's

supposed to be. And so I'm glad that there are more people, more men out there talking about feeling differently. And then, and then, unfortunately, sexual prowess is still like this measurement. So to get a guy to listen. If I'm in the park playing back at me with my buddies and they want to say one thing and then I push back about say getting women and I push back on them they all know they kind of have to listen to me because they do all know that I fuck more than all of them so they could say Billy sounds like a bitch Billy sounds like a herb Billy that's whatever that's some weak as shit I'm fine but my weak ass shit is getting my dick sucks far more than you so like maybe you should listen to me and maybe all this alpha male and Andrew tape

bullshit is nonsense. And it looks right. It looks like what we've been taught growing up. But in reality, it's not real. I mean, Andrew Tate literally would pay models to be on a boat and shoot content with selfies or Instagram or whatever. And then those models would see it on Twitter. And then they go, like, just a heads up everyone, we did not bang.

Like he's saying, check out all these chicks I just banged. And then the models would go, no, he paid us to go hang out on a yacht with him for a day. Oh, that's so funny. I don't know who that is. He's like a guy that does that, though. He's known for that. Edg Tate and guys like him are they call it the manosphere. It's these man influencers who are into this alpha shit.

And it's all just, it's all a facade. It's all fake. They don't make as much money as they say they do or they don't have as much sex as they say they do or whatever. It's all nonsense. Yeah, they're just buying into the stereotypes and seeing if they still fucking work. Right. And meanwhile, so like I said, I just think a lot of dudes need to take some of the expectations out of it. learn to have empathy and connect with a human being,

frankly, you should have some more female friends in your life so you can listen to them and hear what they go through and then take that to have empathy on a date. If you know that, I'm trying to think of a good example, but there are a lot of trends that tend to happen with women who hook up with men

and, oh, they're not eating pussy thing. Like if you know that not a lot of women are receiving world sex because a lot of dudes are refusing or they're not good at it, then gosh wouldn't that mean like when you're in bed and you're like all my dick's hard i really want to suck my dick but hey what if crazy idea you didn't try to get her to touch your dick right away and frankly i've had more women be like he hasn't tried to make me blow him he hasn't tried to make me jerk him off he hasn't tried to fuck me yet he's just connecting with me and making out and touching my body like shit i really i really want that dick give me that and now they're craving something just because i didn't throw it at them nonsense and that's not like a move

That's just me sincerely trying to enjoy the sexual experience. Stop trying to get your dick wet as a goal. Just connect with a human fucking being. Right. But it's also the scary, coming from the not scarcity thing, because I know I had a guy, I did an episode once and it's a great episode.

It's like how to get a girl that would never fuck you to fuck you. And it was like with my co-host Tommy. He like liked me for a year, okay? Like for years, he was like obsessed with me. And I was like, never would I ever fucking fuck you? Like, you know, like your face, not one thing. about you. But we became friends and he figured out what I fucking liked when he kept taking me out for steak dinners and he kept complimenting me and he never tried to bang me because this guy

could bang whoever the fuck he wanted. He was a player, right? So he was never coming from scarcity, right? He never made one fucking move. Fast forward. You could hear the whole fucking episode. You know, I was begging him one day. I was dripping wet to go home and fuck me because I wanted him. When this was a guy that I would never fucking fuck. And it was just strictly. for the fact that he never made a move. But he kept like dropping compliments. And he wasn't like playing a game. But if you really think about that game, fucking works.

It worked. I mean, I was like not into him at all. And then I fucked him for seven years and had the best sex with him. He was like my favorite booty call. And I was like, we did a whole episode on it. And it just goes to show like what you said, the not scarcity. He never tried to make move because he didn't have to, right? He was getting late elsewhere.

He wasn't like showing up like, I got to fuck her. I got a hard on that. I got blue balls. He was doing his thing. But now imagine you just didn't care so much whether not, if you're a guy, if you didn't care so much, whether or not you were getting late. And then you still just decided to enter the interactions with Kathy or whomever with that same attitude. Yeah. Just like, because you're saying he has that attitude because he's getting laid.

I'm saying at some point. Yeah. Just be that guy. I'm not saying pretend anything. I'm saying sincerely learn that sex is not nearly as big of a deal as you think it is and make it less important. then the attitude naturally comes out of that. If you try to force it, then it is fake, and the fakeness will always be sniffed out.

You can always smell it. And so some of my question with, like, teaching or tips or whatever, is kind of like, I don't want to teach someone who has the wrong intentions, like tricks to get someone in bed for just because they want to get their dick wet, because that's the pickup artist shit. And I'm saying the trick is to actually give a shit about her. the trick is to actually be okay if you don't get the exact type of sexual experience you want. The trick is to learn consent culture and communication.

These are not tricks to get laid. These are tricks to make you a better human being. And then if you're a better human being and taking care of yourself, then yeah, you actually might attract more people that way. Rather than wearing a weird shirt and learning stupid pickup lines to get women in bed. And it might work, but you're just fucking and you're really just masturbating. someone and I'm telling you when you connect with the person the sex is so much better it doesn't feel like jerking off it feels like a collaboration right well listen billy why don't you give out all your

shoutouts we didn't even get to talk about your only fans but give up you do have an only fans what do they see on your only fans like give it out and i'll put links to everything in the description they see some sexy pictures they can buy content of me solo they can buy content of me with some of my sexy friends and they can always order customs i shot a custom last night the guy just wanted to see me stripped down he didn't even need me to jerk all off, please. As once you strip out, down and answer these seven questions about circumcision, fine, sure, give me 50 bucks. But yeah, they can see that on the only fans, but you, obviously, the main place to go to find me is the Manhor podcast, wherever you listen to the podcast, wherever

you're listening to Kathy right now. I'm also on Instagram and threads at Billy Is Prasita. I'm on TikTok, and I also run a monthly naked comedy show in Brooklyn. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, all the stand-up comedians are naked. the audience, it's nudity optional. Our last show of the year is going to be December 1st. Oh, my goodness. Do you have one link that you could send me that I put in that everything's there, a link tree or something?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send one or two important links and you conclude what you need to. All right, awesome. All right, listen, I don't mind. I love a good debate. To me, it's no big deal. I hope you roll like that too. We always debate.

Okay, you're as opinionated and loud and everything that I am. No, I don't, but it was, yeah, I do. I think it was something about consent or something. I don't know. It probably didn't age well. Probably on my thing. When I was younger, I was a little bit more bitchy.

Bitchy isn't cool when you're in your 50s. Okay, it just doesn't roll. You're your 50s? Yeah, I'm 54 now. Wow. Yeah, I know.

And I can guess. What? I wouldn't have been my guess. Well, what, for my voice? No, I don't know,

just in general. Yeah, no, no, I mean, go look at me on YouTube. You can see videos of my body on YouTube. I don't look like I'm

54, but I, but I am, yeah, and I've been there, done that. But I think it's funny because I did an episode many years ago with Robert Kelly and they sent me out on a date with Joe DeRosa and we came back to talk about that date and we filmed that date and we went on to the podcast, the you know what dude podcast and we had a massive fight and at the time I loved it. Like, you know, I sort of said my thing. He said his thing. He went on to Opie and Anthony. I was getting death threats on Twitter. Everyone sided with him. But, you know, when I listened back now, I was like, like a 50-something-year-old woman. I'm like, wow, like, you could only get away with that cunty attitude that I had, right? It was like cunty and it's kind of funny, but I was like 42,

and at that age, I don't know, I could still get away with it. Like, you just, you just don't feel like that person or you just can't get away with that now. You know what I mean? Now is my debate. I think I sound like a Karen. But, you know, you got to, it's like a different vibe that I had back then with you. It's like a little bit more cuntier, I think. It's probably my fault back then. But I still love, listen, my point is, listen, I still love a good debate. I still am very opinionated person, and I don't mind other people being opinionated. I could give it and take it, which I like. I loved having you on the show.

You were like giving me some great fucking stories. I don't mind that we fight every time as long as you don't. I love a good fight. You can come on any time. I loved your stories. It's fascinating. And people should definitely go listen to your show because I think they're going to want to listen to that episode where you had that girl on. So thanks, Billy, for calling it.

Thank you for having me. Bye. Hi. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.

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