Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 719 - FETISH FRIDAY: Jay is Into Pro Dommes, Oral S** with Guys, Golden Showers and More
Episode Date: November 17, 2023Jay is into pro-dommes, oral s** with guys, golden showers and more and he called in to talk all about it. When did he realize he was a submissive? When did he have his first experience with a pro dom...me? And, what exactly went down? Tune in to hear all the details including his how he incorporated his spanking and heel fetish into his first pro domme experiences, his expat experience in Asia and the experience he had with a trans woman, his incel period and how and why that led to him hooking up with guys, the older guy he gave bjs to and how that led to him digging humiliation, his relationship with a cuckoldress and all the crazy things she got him to do, his brief marriage and how and why it didn’t work out, how and why he tried being a dom after his divorce and what he enjoyed about it, his recent golden shower experience and what exactly went down, his long list of fetishes which include feet, heels, redheads and more, his fascination with chastity and the time he was publicly humiliated while caged, his cuck experience with a very famous dom and what went down, how and why a former, famous porn star uses him as a practice sub for her new dommes, how and why he’s looking for a FLR relationship and why he hasn’t been able to find a women who is down for it, his pro dom contract he was in and what that entailed plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So today I have on Jay. Jay is like hilarious to me. Okay. There's something very flippant about
the way he talks.
But there's nothing flippant about his story. Oh my God. He's like really kind of hardcore.
And he did start so early on. And I said this on the show. It's kind of like Jay has been there,
done that. He's been a professional into all kinds of crazy things since he's like 18. He had like
fantasies and fetishes in his head and he just fucking went after them right from the get-go. And so I think
at this point in his life, it's just like everyday regular stuff to him. But a lot of the stuff
he told me is just like cray cray. It's really his episode does not disappoint. He's so funny
to me. His story is super interesting. He realized at a very early age that he's into pro doms. He
started going back in the day to pro doms when he was 18 years old, which is super young to me.
He started seeing them. He was very into spanking and heels.
Those were like the fetishes he was into then.
So he would go to pro doms.
He did that.
He talked about this in-cell period that he had and he explains what that means.
And during that period, he started sucking guys' dicks.
His reasoning behind a lot of the things that he does is so fucking funny, okay?
But he talks about that whole experience of like sucking guys off and what that means and why he does it and what he's into.
And he had another time in his life where he was in Asia.
and one of the best experiences he ever had was with a transgender woman there
because he's into both girls and dicks, right?
So that was like top of the mountain.
He talks about a cuckoldress that he wound up dating,
and you will not believe the shit she had him do.
I mean, right from the get-go on their first date,
it's like the craziest story you've ever heard.
You're going to hear all about that.
He's into all kinds of crazy things.
He's got a lot of other fetishes,
like fetish for women with red hair.
He has a foot fetish.
He doesn't understand all the backlash.
People get for being a defeat.
It's pretty tame,
considering all the other stuff he's into,
but he's also into feet.
He has a lot of different fetishes he's into.
He is very much a sub.
He tried domming at some point in his life
and was kind of good at it.
That was after a divorce.
He talks about that experience
of being a dom for a couple of years
and why he was good at it.
But basically, he's really a sub.
He's a cuck.
He's done some cuck experiences.
Now he's like,
Such a professional sub that there's a famous porn actress.
He told me the name, but he won't mention her name on the show,
who owns like a domination house.
And she uses him as a practice sub for all of her new girls.
That's how professional he is.
His story is super interesting.
There's so much more to it.
You're going to have to listen to the whole episode.
It doesn't disappoint, like I said.
He made me laugh a lot.
But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Jay.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I'm good. I'm happy to be here.
Okay, Jay, listen, you have a lot of stuff you have in your email or whatever you sent to me.
Like you've been doing pro doms, you had an in-cell period in your 20s.
Does that mean like somebody who, like what is an in-cell?
Well, it's been in the news lately.
Basically means an involuntary celibate.
And it's basically people who can't get laid.
So I had an illness and lost my hair young and kind of was a transition.
I was kind of a fit young guy.
And I got a illness in my early 20s and kind of lost my good sports physique, my hair and my confidence.
And basically it couldn't get laid for a certain period of time.
Wow, that's awful.
How long did that last for?
I would say it went on from 24 to 30.
And I kind of got healthier.
And there was new medicines for what I was dealing with.
And I guess they get my confidence back.
sort of that's been one of my benefits in life.
I've generally been a competent person.
Because then you've done all kinds of other things.
If I go down the other list,
the transgender experiences in Asia,
you do a lot of pro-dom stuff even now.
You've had cuckold relationships,
glory-hole experiences.
You've got some fetishes.
So, like, where should we start?
Should we start with how you got into doing pro-doms
when you were 18?
Well, I grew up in the 80s,
and I guess BDSM sort of entered.
the popular culture with Madonna and my father was under some impression that his playboys
and penhouses were going to be worth something someday because so I read the mostly I read
Pennhouse forum letters and I was more into the kinky stories that would appear in there than
the graphic vaginal picks so it kind of it kind of started then he had a few old porn magazine
from the 70s and I was looking at him when I was pretty young and
I was kinky, I had kinky inclinations at a very young age.
Do you think it's because you saw those penthouse stuff and you were reading that?
Like that was what you were turned onto at that age?
Maybe that's why, do you think?
Because you saw it, read it?
I guess, yeah, I think I'm just kind of wired for it.
I mean, I remember having, you know, fantasies about spanking and stuff before I could even understand why.
I mean, we're talking crazy young.
Did you get spanked?
any memories of that.
I don't have any.
I mean, I think I was, but I literally have no memory of that.
It wasn't like, I probably was, but I literally can't remember when or anything significant.
Yeah, we all got spanked back in those days.
It's very different nowadays.
Most likely you were fucking spanked.
So wait, so you started seeing the pro doms?
Like, where would you even go at that age or no to go at that age?
I mean, you're saying since 18.
I don't know any 18-year-old that were seeing pro doms.
Yeah, I kind of look back on it now, and I'm a little bit impressed with myself.
I think that fucked up a lot.
What would happen back then, when I got 18, I could at least legally go into the porn shops,
and they sold these little newspapers, basically New York base of what was going on in Kink World in New York.
And there'd be little ads in the back to see so-and-so.
There was no internet back then.
There was no other way to contact somebody.
It was a personal ad.
You used to send $5 in a letter to.
to the magazine who would forward it to the to somebody who was playing a personal ad and there'd be
looking to be little ads and i found somebody who was charging something in my budget it might
have been i think it was like a hundred dollars an hour type to say other people were charging
like 200s i went with the 100 being the cheap youngster i was and i did i did my first session
in this little tiny space in new york city so i guess it was june 1990 now were you a virgin at that
time or were you not a virgin anymore? No, I wasn't a virgin. Okay, so what kind of experience did you
plan out with your Dom? Well, I definitely just wanted to be spanked. I didn't know enough to really know
much more than that. So I guess I just went in there to being spanked. I think I had a bit of a foot
fetish already. More of a heel fetish. I mean the clickety clack of heels just drive you crazy.
I don't know that my fetishes were that particular then other than I wanted to be tied up and spanked.
I don't know if I had other things on the agenda at that point.
Wow, tied up in spake.
So that first time was with the pro-dom and how was it?
I could tell she was kind of like a retired sex worker, not super, knows how to manage her room.
She probably wasn't like a true dominatrix in the way that you'd see somebody be a professional.
professional now, but I liked it. I didn't love it. I remember I did go again like a month or two later and I think I was more physically attracted on that second time and I was a little bit more into it, but I didn't know how to handle the real pain of somebody spanking you. So it took me about five, six years of going to sessions and I couldn't afford to go very often. I mean, I was just a broke college kid. It would be lucky if I would go once or twice a year. I was kind of lucky.
So it just took a while to figure out what it is I liked.
And at this point, if I go, even if I see somebody new,
I generally have a good experience.
I know so well what I like and how to communicate it.
I'm not real good at it.
I mean, I'm good at now.
It takes a while to figure out what it is that you're really into.
There was, I think there was once or twice,
or I decided I had a big bootleg copy of all these fetish clips.
I remember once or twice getting rid of them,
just trying to get rid of the demon inside of me.
Back in those days,
and I just, that's never happened in the last 25 plus years.
But in the early days, there was a little bit of self-loathing over it that certainly doesn't exist now.
What were some of those fetishes that you were trying to push away back then?
Do you remember?
I think the first time I had a little bit of feminization, the butt stuff, which is not my thing even until today.
Like that, those two things were like a little bit too far from me in a process then.
I still don't do butt stuff, but I mean, I have some interesting.
and feminization now. It's never something I've explored too deeply, but it's it's it's it's it's on my
list of things I would get into, I think. So during that time you're just seeing these pro doms.
You're young. You wind up going through this in-cell period. So you had no girl, do you have any
girlfriends at all during that time? I had my college girlfriend, I think, who stayed with me more
at a habit. And we went our separate ways. And I kind of knew I would be alone and I was for,
for, for a good while. Did you wind up getting married at some?
point? Yeah, I did get married way much, much later. But so all these things, the cuckold
relationships, the glory hole experiences, the fetishes, like all of that stuff, did that kind of
stuff happen while you were married via a secret life? Or did you do stuff with your wife?
I was going to see pro-doms that she knew about. She didn't love it. She didn't hate it,
which is kind of like part of it. I didn't go enough for it. I think she was paranoid about it.
I was going to like pro doms mostly.
I wasn't doing the other stuff until we got divorced.
And we didn't really get divorced because of any of that,
but I'm sure it would have been a problem eventually, I guess.
Okay.
So you go through your in-cell period,
which is just basically you don't have sex for a while
because of what you were going through physically,
but eventually you come out of that.
And then do you travel to Asia for work or something?
Is that how you wind up there or were you on holiday?
And that's where you hooked up with a transgender woman?
No, I was working.
I kind of lived as an ex-examination.
Pat for about eight years.
Mm-hmm.
And I didn't really have a vibrant sex life there either.
And I would travel sometime.
I traveled to Thailand and I had an experience with the lady.
But it was still probably like on my top all-time experiences.
How come?
I don't, you know, it's hard to say.
It was just like she was, I developed, during that in-cell period, I developed,
I basically gave, I gave oral sex to men.
just for sexual contacts.
Oh, we skip through that.
That's not necessarily being an in-cell.
I don't know.
I mean, you're fucking blowing guys.
It doesn't sound like you would.
So that's not really having no sex.
You just weren't having sex with women.
But I didn't want to have sex with men.
I wanted to be having sex with women.
Yeah, but that's even more interesting.
That's why we can't go blow past that.
Oh, my God.
So wait, during that in-cell period,
because you didn't feel the confidence enough
to go hook up with women,
you wound up hooking up with guys.
Yeah.
How did that happen?
Well, it's kind of like I just said.
It was just, actually, if I was to harken back again, one time I was about 18 right around when I went to that first pro dom.
Yeah, I have no physical attraction to men, but I ended up, I think I was somewhere and I answered like a public pay phone.
And it was a guy.
I was literally senior in high school.
I remember trying to get me to suck his cock.
I just happened to ransom.
It's funny you bring this up.
I haven't thought about this in ages.
Yeah.
And I had to answer a public pay phone.
And the guy started trying to convince me to suck his cock.
And I'm like, oh.
And I was more or less, he's meeting me down at the grocery store.
And I drove over there.
He didn't show up.
I'm like, why am I driving there?
I'm like, why am I doing this?
Why is this excite me?
It was just a taboo of it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're a fucking horny kid.
I mean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was just like the naughtiness of it.
It was like dirty sex.
You're like down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he never showed up, which is weird, because he went all this trouble to try to convince me.
I literally did show up.
It was like, go to this grocery store down the road.
I'll meet you, bu, and he did it.
Yeah, he was probably in his car jerking off watching.
No, no, no, he was probably in his car jerking off watching him.
He probably was there somewhere.
So wait a second.
So, all right, so that was like some weird seed that was planted in your mind.
Oh, maybe because you didn't wind up going to the place to meet that guy.
So during your in-cell period, you're dying to get fucked, but you can't.
Like, when do you make that move or when does that thought come into your head?
Well, let me just go hook up.
What guy is that?
Well, I still, to this day, I've never been fucked.
It's not my, I just, I just, oral sex.
Sex to me is oral fucking.
Okay, so gone.
Yeah.
So it was just, for me, it was just about oral sex.
Mostly, I mostly fantasized about giving, but I would take it, too, if they were into it.
but I went usually, I typically went out with the, and I ended up meeting this guy who was older.
And I tended to go for older.
I just felt more comfortable, I guess, for whatever reason.
And this guy ended up, you know, kind of blowing him on and off, not particularly well.
And he was, he was kind of like, I kind of stuck with him just for safety.
I didn't want to be blowing a bunch of guys.
I just kind of blew him.
And he wasn't like the nicest.
And he, I think he, and he was kind of mean because I wasn't like good enough at giving him head.
And that.
Did he try to help you?
Did he guide you along?
I mean,
what did he say?
He did.
But like,
I could never quite satisfy him.
Yeah.
And he was,
he was,
he was kind of a jerk.
And that,
that created its own,
its own fetish.
Because he was being kind of a jerk.
Humiliation.
You might be into that.
You have a,
like pro doms.
You're into cystification.
I mean,
maybe,
or feminization.
Like maybe that was a little,
hot to you. Yeah, it was pretty hot. There's that fucking ice cream machine.
Person going by, I can't edit it out because you're talking. Anyway, go on. Where do you live
that? They're like, there's a fucking ice cream truck traveling around you all the time.
Yeah. Are you talking to me next to a playground?
No, just the neighborhood.
Okay, go on. But, yeah. It's... But wait, so you're talking about blowing guys like you're buying
ice cream. I mean, your whole vibe is just kind of funny because you're like, oh,
Yeah, whatever.
You're talking about your life as if this is just normal shit.
But it's kind of not.
And I'm trying to get the psychology behind it.
But you're so flippin with everything.
I just blew this one.
And that's what it was.
But I mean, so during that time, you were only blowing guys, right?
You had this guy.
Like, how many other guys were you with?
Well, I pretty much stayed consistent with this one guy.
And weirdly, I ended up moving from, like, the East Coast to the West Coast.
And he moved to the same fucking place.
So I just stayed with him.
you know
wow
which is like ridiculous
and then eventually
he's just
he just kind of like
blew me off
yeah I was like
oh you're gonna have to find
somebody else
and like I said
I just kind of stuck with him
because I felt
relatively safe
even though he was
he was a little bit mean
about his way of
his way of being
and he created various issues
like I so I think he actually
made me more into the
this than
by being not
super not it wasn't like abusive
just
made me feel inadequate in the way I suck dick.
But it's interesting that, I mean,
did you go into it looking for guys to suck your dick at first during this in-cell period?
I was kind of curious about sucking dick, too.
Like, I didn't really have a, I would say probably more wanting to do it
and figuring it would go two ways.
But if it didn't, I was fine with that too.
But it's interesting that you wanted like a girl,
but because you couldn't, you decided to go to a guy.
But when you went to a guy,
you didn't have them suck your dick and pretend they were a girl.
you went and suck their dick.
So now it's not about a girl at all.
I know you want to frame it like you were just with guys because you couldn't have girls.
But it sounded like you were guys because maybe you wanted to suck a dick and you were curious.
Well, it's also, I think it's hardwired in the fact that I'm a submissive.
And to me, I find that act very submissive.
Like, to me, it's an offshoot of that.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, it's not, to me, it's just a very submissive act.
And it's a little bit taboo.
Right.
It's not, like, I've never had any desire.
to be in a gay relationship or have a gay boyfriend or, you know, kiss anybody or anal sex.
To me, it's just sort of a submissive act.
And it's kind of hardwired into my very kinky psychology.
Yeah, well, you were the kid that was going to the pro-dom places when you were super young.
I mean, so there you go.
And you were the guy that answered the phone and showed up at the mall.
I mean, you know, you might be bisexual.
But I had a guy on, Dr. Joe Cort.
And I totally bought into what he said.
because I've heard it so many times from guys.
I'm sure you're not the first guy that has sucked a dick and is like, but I'm not into guys.
I used to scratch my head.
You're like, what do you mean?
But the way he explained it is that for some men, it doesn't mean anything other than they're into like in an erotic way.
I forget the term that he used, but it's not about your sexuality or what you're into in that way.
It's just a matter of maybe in that moment because you're turned on.
You do that, but it doesn't mean anything more than that.
And like you asked originally how we got on this conversation.
Why that was so meaningful when I had that trans experiences
because she was a beautiful woman, like really attractive woman.
And she had this amazing, amazing dick.
And it was just a mind-blowing experience because I'm very attracted to women.
And I'm apparently very into sucking dicks.
And this had both things happening.
So you do sound bisexual.
I mean, come on.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't like to label it.
It is what it is.
I don't even give a shit at this point.
But yeah, I definitely, I definitely like to do it.
And to me, I think of it more as a fetish and I have a ton of them.
I just kind of think of it as one of the many.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it came about in that time, like you said, because you couldn't get girls.
And when that period's over, you fly to Asia.
You have that one top of the mountain experience with the transgender woman who's got it all, right?
The both things that you love, woman and a man.
And then where do you have these cuckled relationships?
Like, what is that all about?
Well, I dated a deadly serious cuckoldress for a bit.
And there's some people playing at it,
but she was really hardcore.
And she just seared some stuff into my head about those fantasies
that just really ran wild.
Well, you got to give me specifics.
I mean, come on, you're telling me about a cuckoldress
who got you into doing all this shit,
The story is going to be fascinating.
Most people don't meet a cuckold dress, okay?
What the fuck happened with her?
When did she like?
Well, she wanted to marry a man that she would not have sex with,
that she would pierce for chastity purposes.
That's a way of making a chastity cage much more, much more secure.
She wanted to brand me.
And she legit wasn't playing out.
She wanted a husband to tend to her emotional needs while being,
permanently denied in doing some humiliation, emasculation, discipline, the whole thing. And we went
into a bar on our first date. And she made me drink a shot of piss at the bar on our first,
on our first date. It was one of the most exciting things ever happened to me, for sure.
Oh, wait. So what? Did she bring the pee in in her bag and then pour it into a shock?
Like how did that, I mean, how does that even work? She brought a shot glass.
Oh, okay.
And she's like, excuse me.
And she came back with it.
And she's like, this is what you're drinking.
And so she made me do that right at the bar, which, and the adrenaline that was flowing
after that was out of control.
Yeah.
And I mean, the story that came after my question is out of fucking control.
I mean, thank God I'm here steering this conversation because this cuckold dress is a lot
more than a fucking cuckold dress.
She's crazy.
I mean, I'm assuming you met her like on Craigslist or something.
I mean, you didn't meet her like at in a regular setting, did you?
Did you go in knowing that this is who she was and what she was into?
Because you said first date she's making you drink piss.
I mean, come on.
I met her on fat life.
Okay, okay.
So you did.
All right.
We had conversations for a first date.
Okay.
So you knew this is how she rolled.
Yeah.
On that first date, I ended up, I begged her to let me kiss her feet right on the middle of Central Avenue as cars rode by.
And I did.
She liked the ambition.
So that was, that was, the adrenaline was flowing that night.
It ultimately didn't work out with her.
She would kind of want to limit how much I do have a daughter from my, for my marriage.
And she wanted me to limit that.
And I was like, that was a bridge too far.
So she just fucked my head up, like, royally imprinted and burned in some intense things that have never been shaking.
I call it colding the heroin of fetishes.
Oh, really?
I have a lot of fetishes.
Yeah, from red hair to heels.
Yeah.
And I think it's funny how you blame everybody else for them.
It's my guy's the guy's fault on the phone that makes you want to suck dick.
It's her fault for making you into all this stuff.
It sounds like you've been driving this fucking ship since you're 18 and stealing your dad's penthouse.
I mean, come on.
I'm embracing it.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm glad.
There's nothing wrong with it.
You're giving me a great episode.
There was that time I told you about my early days where I'm like, make it stop.
And ever since it's one of the, I'm very.
I embrace it fully.
I'm just sort of self-cycle analyzing where this all started.
Because after her, it got much more extreme.
Oh, my God.
How extreme can it get?
I keep going.
Well, it was just stuff like that.
And I was with people, and I kind of asked them to press the button harder and deeper on the whole,
on the whole performing oral sex thing.
And I was, yeah, we're jumping into more modern times where I guess you, I guess you
see I get crazier than I was.
Yeah, but could we go back to,
before we get up to the modern times,
because then we're going to get into the glory hole stuff
and even more fetishes,
let's just talk about your marriage,
your short marriage for a brief moment,
because you did at some point tell this woman
that you married, hey, I want to see pro doms
and she gave you a pass, right?
I mean, how did that come up?
Well, she knew I was kinky from the get-go.
We were married for a while.
It wasn't like, we were only like a functional marriage
for a couple years.
And then we kind of live in separate lives because we did have a child.
And it was just, it was kind of like when the economy blew up in the, was it 0,809 period.
And it wasn't like, even if we were, marriage was done, like, you just kind of like have to suck it up and deal with it.
We're kind of just living separate lives, raising our daughter, cohabitating.
And there were times where we were married and name only.
We would go out and just kind of live our own lives sexually and just kind of be roommates and whatnot.
So it wasn't like you were in love and should give your free.
pass. It was just, you were kind of still together, but you gave your free pass because you guys weren't
really together to begin with. Yeah, I wouldn't, it was not a functional marriage. Like, we would
play at it for appearances at times, but we both knew it wasn't like, it wasn't like a, a great marriage.
We just stayed in it for kids and finances until until, until it became unbearable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. So, it wasn't really unbearable because of the kink. It was unbearable for other reasons.
Yeah, no, of course. I mean, you didn't say one nice thing about her. It sounds like you never really,
were that close, right?
I mean, it kind of, you had kids.
Maybe you thought you had to get married at a certain point, like a lot of people do, right?
You read the book, you followed it, and you're like, what the fuck is this about?
And neither one of you was really that into it.
I mean, how many years do you think you were even happy with her?
Like, first three.
Okay.
I think when we were living together overseas, and we moved to the States and had a baby.
And I think we just, we were just, we both doted on our daughter.
And, yeah, she was in the bed with her.
so I would go downstairs.
I would go sleep in a different room
and I would watch my sex life again,
even though I was married,
my sex life again was mostly expressed through porn.
Yeah, there you are back in your in-cell period.
Yeah, you're married.
That's fucked up.
You're constantly being put in the corner.
Yeah.
Well, ironically, when we got divorced,
the restraints were off.
I was in good shape, looking good, dressing good.
and I kind of made up for all the lost time.
To the point of ridiculousness,
I really enjoyed that period
after I had gotten divorced mentally.
Yeah, is that when you met the cuckold dress?
Yeah, but I did a lot of other things.
I had a lot of, I had a lot of vanilla sex during that time period.
I found it.
It was easy, the internet age,
the world had gotten kinkier.
I actually got frustrated.
I did want to get being an FLR,
female red lip relationship,
and that wasn't working out.
I hung my shingle for as a dom for a while.
And all of a sudden,
I was flooded with attention from women.
And I had a couple subs for a couple years.
You're just trying it out because it's kind of a way.
Because I have, I like women dressed a certain way.
I like women heels.
And it was a way of having, telling people,
this is what I want and do this about being an asshole.
Like if you tell a woman, hey, I need you to wear,
I want you to wear stockings and heels tonight.
You're in a normal vanilla relationship.
you don't really get to do that.
But I spent about three years
exploring my kink side and I was able to do that.
I had a fucking amazing time there.
Yeah.
So, and you're not the natural dom,
but it kind of worked because these girls,
all the subs are going to be wearing latex
and stockings, right, in high heels.
That's the outfit, right?
The truth that matter is I'm not a meek guy in my day-to-day.
I'm just a sexual submissive.
In my day-to-day life,
I'm extremely aggressive, dominant, whatever.
I'm not, this is just...
That's how it always...
Listen, I think it's interesting that a lot of people don't know that,
and I think it is always important to bring up on each episode.
I mean, I've heard it a million times, and it makes sense to me,
but I think a lot of people don't understand that the guys that are going to meet pro-doms
and even a lot of the guys that are on their knees sucking dick or wearing panties
are guys that are like the CEOs and their regular life.
It's the way that those kind of people.
could really let loose. The alpha becomes the beta. It's the switch. And that's typically how it is. A lot of
times you'll hear it being different, but I think the majority of the times that's how it always rolls.
It's that real alpha guy that behind closed doors loves to be fucking submissive. Because how else are you going
to relax by being more yourself? I have something called vacation Kathy. Like when I go on vacation,
I lose shit. I don't know where the fuck I am. I don't really care about anything. Like that is so not me.
but that is my way of turning off, right?
It's my fucking vacation.
I don't want to be dumb, Kathy,
in charge of fucking everything.
I mean, it's like the switch.
Everyone has that.
That's your vacation, right?
So why you remain the same?
You go the opposite.
So it makes sense that you're alpha in your regular life.
That's always the case, really.
Yeah.
You don't have to prove it to me.
But so go on.
So now you keep saying like you've had all these other things.
crazy things. I don't feel like you gave me the whole list and there's so much there, so you can just
keep going with the story. Yeah, for about a three or four year period after I got divorced,
you know, when I did have sex with my wife, it was very like, it wasn't living last long. I was playing
all the porn fantasies in my head. And then all of a sudden, without her and I had sex with somebody
else, it's like, it went, I would last it forever. And I'm really, I used to be, I was part of why that
it made me a cookie. Like, I was at one point, like really good.
in bed and then I felt like I wasn't with in this crappy marriage having sex with her and then all of a sudden I'm back again and I'm and I had had this I ended up dating this young woman I guess you could say she was like 10 15 years younger than me nothing too crazy she was 30 and I was probably like 45 she had the daddy issues and wanted it wanted a dom and and we all we had this whole dynamic where I was in control of her life it was it was fun for both of us for for a while and that kind of like
that really, you know, my confidence was kind of back already by the time of divorce,
but now it's, now it's like swelling.
I've generally been a confident person my whole life.
It was just that one little period where I wasn't, and then it was back.
So I made up for a ton of lost time in those years after I got divorced.
Maybe that's what switching was all about.
You needed to become a Dom at that point just to get back in touch with even the real you,
which was an alpha male.
because I call guys that get divorced like dickless divorcees.
A lot of times you see a guy after divorce, he's like a fucking, his dick was like chopped
off.
I don't know.
They're just not the same.
It's very bad actually.
And they lose their fucking edge.
I know plenty of dickless divorces.
But maybe that's why you wound up at that time in your life for the first time and
probably the only time you were a little bit of a dom because that was your way of getting
back in touch with that.
Because that's who you really are.
Maybe you lost that a little bit in your relationship.
I found out I was good at it from all my sub experience.
So it was something I was easily able to transition and had a ton of fun with.
Now, I would still go see pro doms occasionally.
And like you said, when you, the weird, in the kink world, a male sub, I think it's treated pretty poorly for a lot of reasons.
Like it's, we watch a lot of porn, we lead a lot of stories, we have really intense feelings.
And then when you have someone who's interested, a lot of people can be a little.
little overwhelming because it's like there's this deep feeling and then all of a sudden you're
able to express it.
I think the woman on the receiving end gets a little overwhelmed by your, by your passion.
So a lot of us subs can be a little too much.
And I've tried at times I've not managed that.
Well, most of the time being experienced, I've been able to keep it in check.
But when you're a dom in the kink world, you get treated much better.
You have much more interest in you.
You're much more like socially accepted.
It's kind of weird.
to me, but the amount of attention you get
as a male Dom versus male sub is like almost ridiculous.
Yeah, well, isn't it the nature of what they think that the sub wants?
I mean, the sub doesn't want attention.
The sub wants to be treated like shit.
I don't know, right?
Isn't that just like following the sort of rules of the scene?
The Dom should get more of the attention.
That's what gets them off.
The subs want to be fucking humiliated.
So I guess, I mean, people might think they're giving you what they want
when they treat you like shit in that world.
That's right.
That's what you're into.
Yeah.
I'm of the mindset.
I kind of say control, discipline,
humiliation,
are my love language.
For whatever reason,
it's just what's something that helps me connect.
It just makes me.
And probably I would have to fundamentally,
I do have to fundamentally think you do care about me,
but if I thought you truly didn't give a shit,
then it wouldn't be a good trip for me.
But you've got to be able to embrace that role.
Yeah, no,
I've heard that before, for sure.
It can't be for real.
treating you like shit.
You got to know that they respect you,
and then you could really trust them enough
to act like they don't respect you, right?
Yeah, that makes sense.
I'm pretty polite.
I would say more than the average bear.
I'm pretty verbal and all that.
So I actually have to ask most pro doms,
don't go easy on me because I'm super nice.
I kind of had to say that because I find sometimes
they're kind of too nice on me
because I'm like, I think I'm nicer than your average.
bear so to speak. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. What about your
glory hole experiences that you talk about? Where do those come into play and what goes down
there? Yeah, I spend a lot of time watching, I guess you say, straight, blowjob videos. And
for whatever reason, like even to this day, the vast majority of my porn consumption is just
women giving head. It's not really don't like to watch Ben giving head. I think it's much more
artful for women to watch it and it kind of built my desire to give head and then as my
humiliation degradation fantasies and fetishes developed further i i got somebody to help kind of
push that button and get me to go to to a glory hole and a i did it i did it in a gay bathhouse
and and a video arcade place in the last couple years and how was that
it was yeah it was like it was like when i drank that shot of piss it was a major
adrenaline brush to be doing something so taboo that sentence it's like when i drank that glass
of piss i mean did you ever think you'd be saying that sentence ever in your life
people don't come under a strictly anonymous podcast to talk to talk nonsense
no no no i love it there is one guy who's very similar to you and he and he drank the
piss too i forget what his name was he had two episodes back to back fucking
fascinating and he wound up being a real
cuck to his girl and he lost his girl
but the second episode was a little bit
more of like his subbing
experience and the first one was more about him and his wife
playing with others and then he got deep into this stuff
and he was another one who was like very into
drinking the pee which I don't get
a lot of that on my show so it's interesting
it's just funny I'm really not into drinking it
like the shot class is about where
where I'm at the same
cult goes just who made me do that like we went out
somewhere I think we went out to like
the movies and she got a soda and then she basically got a cup of ice and kind of made me drink
it throughout the movie and I had a hard time with that one. I'm not a big drinker. I do like to
have it on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, but not so much as a drinker. Yeah, yeah, okay. But you like
to get, you like, what is that called? Why can't I think about it? It's not water sports. There's the
term for it just peeing on people. But you like that. Yeah, golden showers. Golden showers.
Yeah. Golden. I mean, there's something like I think drinking is a is a step above just
being pissed on. I've been pissed on probably a dozen times in my life, including yesterday.
Really?
Yeah. Oh my God. I had a pro-dom plate, like at a pro-dom experience with your dog.
Yeah, I went to see a pro-dom. And it's somebody I hadn't seen in four years, but I asked her
at the end, we had a, we had a really good session. And I said, well, what's, I said I had,
people had gone too light. I'm like, what's something that you want to do that nobody's done?
and I asked her to piss in the toilet and kind of like put my head in it.
And that happened last night.
Oh my God.
That's not someone pissing on you.
That's a whole different story.
That's taking it up a notch.
So wait.
Yeah.
She peed in the toilet and then shoved your head into the toilet.
Well, she actually, that was actually my vision, but her vision was a little different.
You really don't disappoint yourself.
It's so funny.
Okay, go on.
I was, that's kind of what I was, was kind of.
asking her that I was hoping to do, and she kind of put her own spin on it.
Like, she kind of put my head down in it and mostly pissed, like, on the top of my head,
into the toilet and kind of flushed.
She actually technically never got me totally in, but like right on it.
But she probably didn't realize I was willing to go that far.
But I was.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
You're fucking hardcore, Jay.
Oh, my God.
This is going to be my next Fetish Friday episode.
Next Friday your episode's going on.
Wait a second.
So what you were thinking, which to me.
me is very hardcore. I mean, you wanted her to pee in a toilet, fill it up with her pee, and then
you wanted your face shoved in there. But she thought you wanted, she, you wanted to put your
head in the toilet and then for her to sit down and pee all over your face or your head. And that's
what she did. Wow. But I bet you a doll, I'm going to see her again. I'm knowing her. She'll
do that next time. And she actually, she didn't ask me, but she brought in five people to watch her do
this to me. Wow.
She just kind of made it extra cool.
Like I didn't even envision that part, but she wanted it, she wanted it to be
extra humiliating.
So she brought in all the other doms who happened to be there.
Oh, women, the other doms, the other women.
Wow.
And so, wait, you have all these other fetishes.
I mean, I don't know where you want to go, you know, we still have 20 minutes and you
found, you throw these stories out there like it's no big deal, but there's, I'm sure
there's a thousand more.
I don't know where we should go next.
It should be me, honestly, like, but I was listed in recently, and I'm like, I'm like,
I guess I have enough to be on the show.
I wasn't even sure I fit.
Oh my God.
You're so fucking hardcore.
Oh, my God.
I mean, at first I thought it wasn't going to be a fetish Friday episode, but it definitely
is.
I mean, you definitely are in that kink fetish world for sure, right?
You definitely are into BDSM.
And you have a lot of fetishes.
I feel like we haven't spoken a lot about your fetishes.
Are there other ones you want to talk about?
I have physical fetishes.
Like, on women, like I have a thing for.
for red hair.
I've convinced at least a half a dozen women to dye their hair red for me in my life.
Wow.
Interesting.
Do you like their hair below to be red too or just the hair on the head?
Just, yeah, I was just just just there.
I don't really have a preference down there.
Okay.
So wait.
So why do you think that is?
I don't know.
I mean, I think it might go back honestly.
Like I asked to the old Batman show.
Yeah.
The Adam West one.
I think Catwoman or I think it was Back Girl or Catwoman had red hair.
Interesting.
That probably was part of it.
That one's gotten pretty dramatic in the last decade plus.
I pretty much for porn, I aim for redheads most of the time if that's an option.
That's just a really heavy thing.
My foot fetish has only gotten more intense over the years.
And by the way, that one, I get really irritated when I see people.
People openly say horrible things about foot fetish guy.
rant some of them do stupid stupid shit and but it's like of all the fetishes it's so it's so harmless there
was a guy who was a coach of the new york jets who basically he he got outed being on a a foot fetish
site with his wife and they like destroyed this guy's life and i actually heard him recently he's out
he's out of the NFL but he's he's advertised he's like a spokesman from some foot product
company he embraces it openly fights back against that so i feel like writing him a letter
you should thank him yeah but you know yeah yeah
Like people who have foot fetishes, like the stuff people say about,
it to me is sort of not different from like in tits or ass or anything else.
Exactly.
And so many people have it.
Let me tell you, when I first did my show,
I had to go on to Craigslist to find people.
And I saw all the fetishes out there.
And the majority of them, the biggest ones were foot fetish and pantyho's fetish.
There's so many people.
And it's a very, it's very common.
And it's sad that people do put people down.
Because like, with those people that are putting that guy down or saying shit about
What kind of fetishes do they have?
You know what I mean?
Right, exactly.
I mean, any consensual fetish somebody is doing, you know, with consenting adults.
I mean, I cannot take shaming them.
Yeah, no, I mean, that's why I've always been.
That's why I do my show and people could really tell.
I'm really not judgmental at all, especially when it comes to sight.
Like, why does anyone care?
I don't know.
I don't understand.
I mean, listen, there's some controversial episodes when I have a cheater on and they're doing stuff like that.
That's a different story.
maybe you're going to have some opinions about that person because you don't believe in cheating,
blah, blah, blah.
But like the ones where it's all consensual, someone's a swinger or they're into defeat and they
fucking, they make their girlfriend these sucker toes.
Who the fuck cares?
What does anyone matter?
I think it comes down to like people are just like oddly jealous, like they wish they could do
these things or something because it doesn't really make sense.
But let's keep going back to your thing.
So you have the foot fetish, the redhead fetish.
You have the heel fetish.
Any other new things?
Yeah. I mean, I, oh, well, there was it.
was, I had a period. I wouldn't say I'm in the throes of that, but I had a two-year
fascination with, with Chastity Play. And I actually, it took me two years to do it, but I did get
my cock beers with the PA. And I'm pretty, fairly straight-like, straight-lace presenting kind of guy.
Oh, wow. And I can, you know, you can attach a Chastity Cage to the PA and not take it off
or slip it out. That's, that's kind of why people do it. So I had a two-year period. I was really obsessed
with chastity.
It's something I would dabble at now,
but it's not,
it's something intellectually I know
that I'm not that guy
who wants to be locked up
and throw out the key for years
and set the Guinness Book World Record
for being in Chastity.
But you did for two years.
But the fantasy was there for a while.
Like if you go on the,
yeah,
if you go on these chastity forums,
it's all about up in the next guy
and how long you can be locked and denied.
And I'm realistically,
I'm not that guy.
I did do one where I saw,
there was a,
there was a party at my,
local dungeon on like on a Sunday I think I did a session on a Wednesday and I was I had I had a I
had a girlfriend at the at the time and I said to I gave her her number and I told I told my
girlfriend who was who's like kink accepting not so kinky herself at the time she was all I told her
off the get go this is what I do and she could deal with it I said I kind of want to explore this
someday and I and she's like oh okay so I said do me a favor
lock me up till the party on Sunday.
I want no key.
I can get out of this.
It was a true emergency.
Those chassis devices, everybody talks about, like, almost all of them you can get out of,
yeah, do a little baby oil.
They're not, nobody's truly, truly locked unless they kind of got the piercing going,
get right down to it.
But I, so she locked me in our Wednesday session.
And she would text my girlfriend and have me go down on her, like day after day,
and give me reports.
And then at the party, she basically interrogated me and strung me up and spank me in front of 40 people.
And then she put all this pressure on me to jerk off in front of this crowd of 50.
And I knew Ralph about I had no chance.
It was too much pressure.
So then she kind of mocked me for not being able to get hard.
That was the most intense public humiliation I ever had.
And that was a lot to process.
But it was all good.
It was definitely a heavy headspace.
You like that?
Yeah, I liked it.
It was a lot to process.
But it was like, it was like, I had done a lot.
But that's your love language, you said, right?
I mean, all of that put together in one thing.
That's that you love a lot to process, right?
Isn't that what it's all about?
I do.
Yeah, it is.
I like, I like those enhanced head spaces.
I like when it's like when I had it, when I did something,
I can't believe I did that.
And that one was heavy.
There was no, there was no two ways about it.
That was a, that was a heavy mental experience to, to do all that.
It was fun for her to text my girlfriend at the time about all that.
And she handled it like a trooper.
Yeah.
She was really good about it.
Well, listen, you have so many stories, you know, is there some other experience that you could think of that you haven't told me about that is, you know, in that same category that it was just so intense because it was so, oh, my God, I can't believe I fucking did that.
Did you ever have had anyone shit on you or go that far?
No, I wouldn't do that.
That's, I know my limit is.
Yeah, I have still not had someone on my show for that, just by the way.
That's why I asked.
There was.
If anyone would have been the guy, it would have been you, Jay.
I thought there was a chance with you.
Yeah, there was a time.
And I'm pretty well known and around about.
I get a good reference.
There was a time where a really famous kind of international dominatrix was in town.
And she wanted to film a clip.
And I ended up doing a real, like, cuckold clip where she brought me out and made me
suck her boyfriend in front of her.
well, she was really verbally onslaught.
And then I had to watch while the boyfriend fucked her.
And then I had to clean her up.
And it just so happened.
Like, she's literally like top 10, like most famous all-time doms in the world, I would say.
Wow.
So that was preserved on video.
And that's definitely one of my more heady memories of doing a clean-up with an international dominatrix
and kind of being a bit player as a porn star, so speak.
And how are you so well known in that world?
I mean, is it because you live in a major city and you're in that Domworld and that city
and they're the ones that are in the know to all these other people?
Like, how did that famous international dominatrix know you?
Well, because I had session with one who went on to be pretty famous many times.
It's honestly a small community.
It's a small community and, you know, and somebody knows you and references you.
There's only so, you know, and they're looking for somebody you know it's going to show up on time,
somebody who's who's not going to talk shit about what they can do and what they can't do,
you know, that kind of thing.
So they know I'm not going to like overpromise and then flake out at the time.
Right.
This is the real deal.
You've been living this life forever.
I mean, you're kind of like a professional, right?
Yeah, but it's funny.
There's other, there's somebody out here who was a super, super famous adult film star in the 80s.
She's on my phone.
And I was at this, going back to my in-cell thing,
I took my daughter back home on the East Coast, this little roller skating ring, and she texted me.
Like this big one of the biggest porn stars of the 80s.
She texted me.
Oh, wait, can you tell me her name?
And I'll edit it out.
Oh, oh, okay.
So go on.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
So she, she texts me, well, I'm at this, like, roller skating ring.
Which is where I used to go when I was, like, 13, when I first noticed girls.
Yeah.
So I just, like, kind of went full circle.
If someone would have told me when I was 13 that that that's, that's.
porn star would be messaging me here. I would have sooner thought I walked on the mood.
I know. How did you meet her though after? I mean, she's in your phone for a reason.
Like, where did you meet her to begin with? Well, she has a house of domination and I've been
going there for well over a decade. She just knows me as as reliable guy. And she's actually
had me, she's basically been using me for the best many years to let her, her new, her new dom,
use me as a practice person.
I've been doing that for a while now, actually.
So whenever somebody wants to, in my town, like probably, you know, half the people
have gone into professional dominatrix.
They took their cherry on me.
Wow.
So now, do you live two separate lives, like this life where you're in this world?
And I'm assuming you have a lot of friends and stuff because it sounds like it's a
very big part of your life.
And then do you lead like a totally separate life where you have like friends through work and family and nobody knows what the fuck that other life is about?
I mean, two totally separate lives.
Yeah.
And I kind of let in.
I tell people who I trust that I've known a little bit about it.
I'm more open about it than I was back then.
But I don't, not with everybody and not, you know, all the time.
But yeah, I mean, I have a vanilla job.
I have no tats, no piercings.
Like I'm pretty.
I'm a pretty regular regular guy, dad, the whole shebang.
Yeah, I lead a very normal day to day.
Very typical vanilla.
Do you still date though, like through FetLife and on apps like that,
always with girls who are also in the lifestyle, considering you're so extreme?
I do the Bumble thing and I do enjoy dating.
I still enjoy, I enjoy typical sex.
And I'll tell people, I've had a couple times where I've, honestly, where I've met people,
just got had good dates.
Women who've gone to Wellesley and Yale and I've come out as wanting an FLR.
This is not like on date one.
It's usually after like date three after we've had two good dates.
Yeah.
And even women like that, women in leadership fields coming from elite universities, I almost universally
got rejected after that.
Once I let that cat out of the bag, it wasn't working.
Just explain, though, what that entails.
What are you saying to a girl when you say you want a female-led relationship?
It basically means I kind of would defer to the women's decisions on most things.
I mean, I definitely have fantasies about, you've probably heard about the, there's even a term for it.
They call it a 1950s household like some women are into.
Basically housewives and the man is in control.
There's a phrase called reverse, whereas there's a phrase called reverse, whereas,
the women take on that male role.
And I don't really have that fantasy so much.
It's not something that we reject either.
But I want sort of the woman to be the bossy one and kind of tell me what to do.
It's still definitely a huge turn on.
I've mostly given up on it.
It's just I've made enough attempts where it's hard enough dating.
Let's face it.
And you throw that one into the mix.
So I'm mostly at this point just giving up on that.
And I just try to see pro.
doms and whatnot.
But wouldn't a pro dom be like the best
girlfriend for you? You never think that
maybe a girl that, well maybe they don't
want to do that at fucking home.
You know what I mean? Maybe I have had, yeah.
I've had developed relationships,
friendships with
pro doms in my life
for sure. I wouldn't say we ever
dated, but we definitely were social.
But I bet you when they go home,
they want to be the sub, don't you think?
Probably. Right?
Yeah. I think a lot of pro
Dom's are either by, they're into women, their switches.
I mean, that certainly goes on.
I've never successfully.
I pursued it.
It's mostly been a disappointment.
I've never really hit it off in a major ongoing way with anyone who was a quote-unquote lifestyle
Dom.
I'm mostly frustrated by that, so I just feel better going with the pro route.
I would, if I had a pro root became a lifestyle thing, which,
can't happen. Yeah, of course. Of course, yeah. Yeah, I had a girl on Raven who wound up
hooking up with one of her guys. I'm waiting for the backstory, but she was a pro-dom and
she had her sub come to her and then they took it out of the dungeon and started seeing each
other outside. I mean, it could happen. You never know. Yeah. So, I mean, currently... I was under...
Yeah. I was under contract for a while from a pro-dom. I'd met. What does that mean?
She lived in L.A. Under contract basically means you... You call... We had a...
We had a whole set of rules and we'd meet periodically and was just, I mean, there would be little things about how I would have to say good morning and say good night every night and I would have to practice positions, have a picture of her and do words of devotion.
And there's all different. We had our own evolving shebang and we're still friends, but the distance made it pretty hard to make it truly work.
So, but we're still, we're still friends and we'll still, we're more play partners at this point.
point. It sounds like you've tried so many different things. Is there anything like on your mind currently that like now you're like obsessing over and want to try that you haven't done before or basically have you done everything that you've wanted to and just more of the same? I know I haven't explored feminization that deeply. I don't know that I don't know that I really don't want to do the things like shaving and all this stuff that would be like the next level. That's something I probably want to dabble in a touch more.
I would say
I've scratched
at least sampled most of my itges
I could have probably talked to you for another hour
and got 50 more stories
you're so like I said the way you dish out your info
and your vibe of how you talk about your life
because it's you and you've been living in
and it's really been since the get-go
for your whole life it's so
you talk about it in such a mundane way
it's interesting I love the way
you dish it out because it's so the opposite of your tone and your stories are so fucking
hardcore yet your tone is whatever you're talking like just so right i can't explain it it's kind
of interesting though to me i'm northeast straight up i'm northe yeah but you just don't real i think
because you i i think maybe because you have been living this life from the get-go and you were
just always wired this way and you're somebody that always you know and you didn't keep all these
stuff of fantasy. I mean, you went out and fulfilled all your fantasies. You did all these things that
you thought about wanting to do and wanting to try. I mean, you've been there, done that.
That it's such a part of your life that when you talk about it, it seems like it's so normal for
you. Yet when you hear it as the third person, you're going to be like, oh yeah, how did I not
know that I could have come on this show five years ago? Oh, yeah, I just realized I might have
enough to fill up an hour. You have enough to fill up five hours. I'm so there's so many different
stories. I felt like it was hard for me to get stories out of you. Like you almost were blowing through
things that had so much fucking meat to it. But it was great. I mean, it's definitely like a
a great Fetish Friday episode. You're very hardcore as far as I'm concerned. And for me to say that,
it says a lot because I've talked to over 700 people for nine years. I've heard it all.
I'm, I'm kind of glad to hear you say that. I'm proud of what you said. I mean, I have come to
full circle on that. And the thing is, when I first started in all this, it was doing all the things
I ended up doing what felt like a pipe dream. Because if I would go into New York City, it went to
some of the clubs like the vault and Hellfire and other places. I used to go there in the early
90s. And it was like, if there was a woman, there was six guys like around her, following her
creepily. Like in a ways that you don't really see anymore. There's much more of a balance between men and
women you go to events currently. So it was such a pipe dream to do any of these things back in those
days. And sometimes I get frustrated. I'm like, well, if I was if I was growing up today, I probably
would have been in a fem dom marriage and like things of that nature. But on the flip sides,
I've done so much more than I ever would have dream possible. I was a horny teen growing up in the
80s. I am I am proud of that. I didn't I didn't just talk about these things. You know, I
And most people, and most people did just, I appreciate you saying that.
Yeah, and most people did just talk about it.
And that's why I think it's even more taboo what you did because of, because of when you did it.
Whereas now, yeah, you would have had the freedom, probably in the openness to do just as much.
Same shit.
And there would be no taboo around.
But maybe you had more fun because there was that taboo.
In our day, these kind of things that you have spoken about were so hidden and so different than they are now that,
They were more supercharged, I think.
Even porn.
When we were younger, you would find that one porn and you're like, get obsessed with it because it was the only thing you had.
Now you could, there's so much porn.
It's almost like nothing satisfies you because it's so readily available.
So it's really, you've been there, done that in your heyday since the dawn of time.
Wait till you hear your story from the third person.
I think you really need to listen to your story outside of yourself to really pat yourself on the back even more.
because I don't think you really get it.
But people are going to love this episode.
Jay, I will give you free access to my Discord to go on there and talk to people because I think people will want to talk to you.
If you want to send in pictures, mostly the girls send in pictures.
I don't do X-rated pictures.
So I'm not going to get a dick pick from you.
But what I'll do after your episode airs, which will be next Friday, because you're going right up to the top for my fetish Fridays.
You're going to, I'll give you the free access for my Discord.
There's like over 6,800 people on there now.
So you could go and talk to people and post whatever you want.
they post stuff and I know you're going to get a lot of people
going to want to talk to you. But thanks so much
for calling in and sharing your story.
It's fascinating.
And it'll be up next week.
Okay, Jay? And I'm going to change your voice and everything.
Thank you so much. Yeah, it was great. This was great.
Thank you. Goodbye.
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