Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 721 - Wesley the Black Bull has Been Cuckolding with White Couples for 20 Years!

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Wesley is a black bull who has been swinging with cuckold couples for the past 20 years. When did he hooking up with couple? Where did he meets them? And what exactly went down between the three of them? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how much he enjoys the lifestyle and how he got involved in it initially, why he loves being a bull, how he longs to be a stag, the time he did double penetration, the dom husbands he's encountered and how he felt about them, the couple he met who are taking him away on vacation, the unicorn he met online and what went down during their "sex sessions," all the sex he's paid for while solo traveling the world, how it worked in each country and a whole lot more. REPEAT (Originally aired 5/9/2021) **To see anonymous pics of WESLEY plus see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So anyway, today I'm doing a repeat and I'm doing a repeat on Friday. But let me tell you when I do repeats, okay? I'm so OCD that I edit the shit out of my repeats. It's not like I take the holiday off and don't do any work. I actually do more work because I pick up an old episode and because I'm so paranoid that somebody will, listen to this old episode that hasn't listened ever and think this is the way I do my show because a lot of these episodes are from like six years ago and I think I interrupt less and I

edit better now. So I wind up taking the old episodes. I wind up editing the shit out of them. I remove all the filler words, all the pauses, all the nonsense that I say, all my interruptions and make them a much better tighter show. So I do work for these repeat episodes. But since most people are going to be on vacation. A lot of people will miss episodes. I'm going to do repeats. They're great episodes, though. Today I have on Wesley. I'm repeating Wesley's because he was like such an interesting episode to me. He was the first Black Bull I had on my show. He was a professional and it was so interesting to get the Hot Wife Cuck story from the Bulls perspective, from the Black Bulls perspective. Wesley is my first and he calls in and talks all about how he got into. He

to it. All the couples he met. He's met with tons of couples. He talks about where he met them, how he met them, what he would do, what he thinks the whole turn on is with the whole black bull. Why he's turned on by being the black ball, he's definitely, you know, plays that part well. He's also done a lot of sex stuff when he travels. And we talk about that at the end. Most of the episode we talk about the couples that he met and the experience as he goes into detail of what he did with these people he has one couple who's like planning to take him on vacation with them he's the black bull is a very coveted person right he's had a lot of experiences he talks about them and then like I said at the end we do talk about his travels and it's interesting how it's set up and how it goes down and what you do

and how much you pay and how it works and what he does we talk about that at the end so anyway I'm going to be right back on with Wesley. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm well. Thank you. So listen, Wesley. Okay, I'm rarely talking to the Black Bull. Okay. I've had a lot of stories that involve, right, black bulls, but I'm never talking to them, right? I'm always talking to the person who is obsessed with them, who saw them at the pool, across the way, right? Have you heard those stories? I've heard those stories, but I've never

yet talk to the actual bull. I don't think so. You've been in the lifestyle for a long time. You did also say that you have traveled a lot. So you've had a lot of SCX, right? Because in other places, it's legal, not like here in America where I think it's only legal in Nevada. So you probably have a ton of stories to tell me. But let's start out with the whole black bull thing. Like, how does that come about and how do you decide to be one or when is your first inclination that that's who you're going to be or I don't even know what a black bull exactly means so explain okay well I guess I started back in 2002 from curiosity and probably some necessity too I started on Craigslist when Craigslist was probably about two years old so it was really a good source to meet people

couples and whatnot it was it wasn't as risky as it is to say it was legit legitimately a place that worked very quickly. And so that's where I started. I just curiosity, I've always been a very sexually curious man. And just the vanilla side of dating, it just wasn't my thing. Although I've done tons of dating, I just, I needed this, this, the itch had to be scratched a certain way. So I had to go into, I guess, the whole role of a bull and swinging. And that's where I began 2002.

Yeah, so now listen, I know all about Craigslist because the first two years of my show before I had so many listeners, I had to work it to find guests for my show. I can't tell you how many people call me up now or email me like, where do I go? And where's the new Craigslist? What has taken over for Craigslist? Because they don't have those personals anymore. But what did you exactly go looking for in that scenario? Were you looking for couples that were looking for a third person? Were you looking for a woman?

Were you looking for a man? What were you on there looking for? Well, I was looking. I guess it was just you just cycle through the ads and then you see an ad that sticks out to you that you may fit into very easily. Yeah. So you may say a couple looking for a black man. It was straight, straight to the point. White couple wants a black guy.

Yeah. Here's the number or email. And then that's where it started. And now, how old were you in 2002? I'm 46. I'm 46. I'm 46 now. So I was, yeah, I'm 46. I was in my late 20s, or early 30s then.

Okay, so had you been there done all kinds of stuff sexually and you were just getting forward, like you said, that's why you went on to Craigslist. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like, it wasn't like I needed sex or like I was addicted to it. It was just the style of the lifestyle itself. Yeah. secrecy and the ability to have different women and not be like emotionally connected to them really drew me to that.

Interesting. Right. So now what was like your first experience? Yeah. Well, if I can recall correctly, my first experience was with a couple. It was the guy was like a tattooed, very muscular guy. And his wife was a tall brunette. She was about five, nine, great plump ass, which I like, long legs.

her feet were ugly though I love feet her feet her feet were so unattractive but she had a pretty I know that's funny that sucks the new one's perfect they were Italian she was Italian or like Italian Spanish looking so she had beautiful black hair

pretty face yeah great tits nice plump ass and a fat hairy bush Oh that you like okay interesting that I like and then I mean if I recall it went very quickly it went like the meeting is like the initial contact was like, okay, send us pictures.

I sent some pictures with my shirt off and whatnot. And they were like, okay, meet us here tomorrow at this hotel. I'm like, okay. And I wasn't nervous at all. And I remember sitting in my car and watching them pull up. And she was kind of like ducking in the passengers here. I'm like, holy shit, what am I getting into? And then, but they came out.

We went into the hotel. They booked the hotel room and I went in after them. And then we chatted very. very quickly. And then we, we started fucking. And it was good. It was very good. She was just really sexually fulfilling for me. And her husband went after me. I went after him. And it was great. And that was it. I never heard from them again. And I was years ago. Okay, cool. So, and they were hot. She was hot. You were attracted to her besides her feet. Yes, I was attracted to her. Everything other than her feet. She was really attractive. She was really

She was very tall. And her pussy, I just remember, was very fat. And it had some hair on it. And I remember the first thing I just couldn't, I couldn't wait to do was just to spread her legs open and bury my face in her pussy. Is that something that I really enjoy the sex? Mostly more than anything else, actually. I love. Going down on.

Eating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So now it sounds like your first experience was a great one, right? You never hear from them.

So you just go back and then now do you start Googling. looking for that exact kind of scenario? Or were there a lot of people looking, like a lot of couples, like white couples looking for a black guy to fuck? Oh, yeah. I mean, years ago, in the early 2000, the swinging atmosphere was great

because it was authentic. It wasn't many picture collectors. It was like real people wanting real black men. Yeah. And so I took advantage of it. I think I've had maybe a couple of more experiences in the state I was in before I moved to my friend to another city and I continued there. But I also remember there was another couple I met. She was very attractive, a milf.

He again was, they weren't married, but they were like, like, they were in a long-term relationship. And I remember I met them in like a Hilton hotel. So, you know, it was a nice environment. And we, that was actually my first DP that I tried. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, which I actually loved DP. And I was actually in the top. And he was underneath her. And that was the first time I ever done DP. But when he wanted me to do it, I've never done it before.

And when he wanted me to do it, I kind of just clicked in and I knew what to do. I'm not really like a guy that likes head a lot. I mean, I'll take it. But it's not like a lot of guys get off on head. Me, it's really not. I like to please. And she gave great head. I mean, like, like really good head.

And I could barely stand when she was giving me head by the bed. And yeah, she was very good. She was very attractive. She was short, nice, great tits. And we did the DP. She could barely take it, but we did it. And it was great. And from that point on, I was like, okay, this is something I really, really enjoy.

And now, did you see that couple more than once? No. Initially, it was just like, I meet these people, and then that would be it. I mean, you also have to remember back then, I mean, it's still taboo now, but it may have been, it wasn't, it was a lifestyle for many, many years, of course, but I don't think people wanted to identify with it as they do today. Like, they just wanted to get it done, and that would be here because I never stayed in contact with many of them initially, no.

Yeah, I could understand why. So you're starting. me ask you this in your regular life, right? Because this is something secretly you're doing on the side. Are you dating people at the time? Are you in relationships? Are you seeing these people on the side? Are you single? Yeah, absolutely. This, my life in as a bull, I guess. Yeah. It's, it definitely was interrupted by serious relationships, actually, two real serious relationships later on. And then dating in between, but I never, once I was in the vanilla world, I would never step into. the swinging world and yeah yeah so you weren't cheating or doing this on the side like you did

this when you were single the minute you got in a real relationship right with another person you were monogamous and you put this on the back burner absolutely but you know if the relationship is going sour you get that itch very quickly and i always always ran i always ran back to the lifestyle when i was single always now what was the longest relationship you've ever had are you married or anything now I'm not married, never been married, been engaged twice. My longest relationship was five years. Then after that, it was about three years, yeah.

But you were able to keep it undercover for that long now. Did you ever reveal any of this stuff to your partners, those two women that you were in long-term relationships with? No, but a relationship that went sour in a bad way, it actually came out because she was stalking me and had access to my emails and whatnot. Oh, no. And, yeah, and we were having a huge issue with custody in court.

And so it's in my official court records that I was a swinger and I was meeting people for sex online. Oh, my God. Why is that, what does that even mean? Was it against her that? Like, why were you in court? Because she was stalking you or because you were swagger? I mean, that's not. It was many issues going on.

We had a child together. Oh, okay. She had a major personality disorders. And so during the love bombing phase, she accessed, I trusted her, she accessed my emails or whatnot. She went back many years and was reading old Craigslist messages to couples. And when I was on the popular swinging site, she went on there. And she was stalking me for over a year, even after we broke up. So I had to take to the court and have her sign in order to not do those things again, essentially.

But that's when it came out in my record. So I was a little embarrassed. Yeah. Yeah. I was a little embarrassed. Yeah. Wow. But the irony about that, the irony about that is that while we were dating, she admitted

to me that she once attended a swinger's club with her girlfriend and she enjoyed it. But that was the extent of it. Well, listen, she, like you said, she knew about this stuff before it got ugly, right? She was reading stuff and everything. So obviously she didn't run for the hills because she was freaky like that to herself. And she just used it against you when you broke up or was still doing that because she had her own mental issues with stalking and stuff, which is a totally different thing. Okay, so let's get back to like your Craigslist days, right back in the day. So you have these DPs, you're doing all this couple work, right?

Do you ever start now instead of just responding to ads? Do you ever start posting your own ads? No, because it would never work. You would, I mean, I know how this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, lifestyle works so well now. I have it down to a T. I don't care how good looking you are or what you have to offer, how large you are. You would give virtually no one to contact you first.

Mm-hmm. So I never put up an ad or anything like that. I was very proactive in finding these couples. I had some misses, some it, and whatnot. But from Craigslist is where I actually caught wind of the popular swinging site. So instead of, so I moved from Craigslist to a legitimate site. What was the site? Like in the center.

It's the Swingers Lifestyle. Swingers Lifestyle. Okay, so Swingers Lifestyle.com? Yeah, it's like one of the best swinger sites that they actually offer. And then that's where it really picked up. It really picked up. And then you were there. You could really, you kind of can sit back and have someone email you.

And then you can kind of go, yes, we can meet or no, we won't meet. So now were you just being hit up by a lot of white couples? because do you know, I mean, I don't know, because you've had a lot of these experiences, but do you know the history or what's the psychology behind the whole Black Bull thing? What is it that white men want to see their wives get fucked by black guys? Do you know anything about that? I'm sure somebody does. I mean, I can't speak on it as an expert, obviously, but I think because most people want to,

I call it the BDE, the Black Dick experience. There's a lot of myths behind black men and our sexual prowess. Yeah. And I think a lot of women, at least in the swinging lifestyle, they just have to do it. And I think a lot of men is the balance between jealousy and envy. And they want to see you do it too. And a bit of fetishizing. A lot of people fetishize about seeing their wife taken by a muscular black man.

That interracial kind of like visually. Yeah. Visually. And from my and from my stance, point as a bull, I enjoy it as well. I'm a dark, complexed black man. I have muscles and whatnot. I'm fit. And I really enjoy the contrast and skin tones myself. So I prefer it and I prefer the, the quote of cool,

gentle nature of a white woman and me being a strong black man and me taking this white man's wife. I love it. Obviously, because this is what you're, what you did and what you realize you were really super into, right? That aspect of that guy being there and this being his wife, if you're into it, that must be super hot, right? That you're actually living out that experience in real life. Yes, it is hot, definitely. And now, so you, so tell me about some of the, now, you told me that you had a black couple reach out to you and it was on SLS. What happened in that situation? Yeah, very, yeah. Yeah, I mentioned that because since 2002 to present, I've only slept with two black couples.

Yeah. It's not, the opportunity doesn't really present itself as much. For many reasons, one being that I don't want to generalize, but a lot of black men, they don't like to lend out their wives. Yeah. As easily, it's just, it's not that, they'll swing with other couples, but they don't like to play the cuckers. cold bull roll at all. But I did find one couple early on and the husband, and he was really a cuck because he told me exactly what he wanted me to do. He told me to come to his apartment, seduce his wife, and he would be looking, peeking in periodically watching me have sex with this woman.

And that's exactly what happened. And it was very, and it was a little risky for me because it, And it was in the neighborhood that wasn't that safe. But I was younger and I was taking a lot of risks back then. But when I was back in Einstein, it wasn't a good idea. So, but were they older or were they around your age? I mean, you said you were young at that time. Yeah, they were around my age. Yeah, we were probably about, we were definitely within a year or two of age.

But my role, kind of my role kind of seemed like I was younger. You know what I mean? I guess psychologically, it seemed like my role that day with his wife. It seemed like I was playing the younger role, but we were closer to age, if that makes sense. His demeanor was more of an older man, like not wanting to participate. You know what I mean? Just wanted to watch. But directing you, you were more submissive.

He was the more of the dominant one in that scenario somehow, right? Right, absolutely. And did you enjoy that experience? No, I didn't. Oh, interesting. No, I didn't. Not because the sex was bad. It's because I wasn't that attracted to her face.

and I just wasn't a it was just awkward she seemed awkward and it was very early on and here I am I'm thinking about like my safety I trusted them they were good people

definitely good people but I just wasn't I don't know it's just something that I just didn't enjoy that much okay and what about the other black couple well now I think about I had another couple

where the husband was black and the woman was white and I went to their apartment. That went to their apartment. That was a good experience too. She was a tall blonde, older, and he was a tall black man older, and it was supposed to be a party. But this is another trick. A lot of people say, oh, more people are coming than when you, a party. Yeah, they say more people are coming than you arrive and they say other people cancel. That's happened a couple times to me. Interesting. I don't know why they would do that, but that's what they told me. So

I went to the apartment, drove the apartment, nice place. They were very welcoming, nice place. It was a townhouse. And the husband just had this kink where he wanted me to edge,

and he wanted his wife to edge. And we started out on the couch, and I remember I went down on her, and I started licking her ass. She was really turned on, and she looked at her husband in his eyes while he was kissing. He was like, oh, my God, he's licking my ass. And it just,

And it just went to 100 after then. We went to the bedroom. We started taking turns on his wife. And, but he was, he was like into, I think he was like into BDSM or something because he was really adamant about her not coming. And you too? And then, yeah, me too. And I was really getting annoyed.

What is this? I was like, what does this do want for me? We were having sex. It was great. Yeah. And he was like, oh, no, don't you come now. Don't you come now? And I'm thinking to myself like this dude is.

Yeah, he was. And I was like, this dude is pissing me off. I'm saying this in my head. I'm listening to him. I want to be respectful. Yeah. But he wouldn't let her come. He was a squirder.

He did a lot of fisting and stuff. I'm not really into that. Yeah. I have a lot of kinks, but I'm not into where they try to fist their wives to squirt and all that. But he was really in the way, so to speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they actually hit me up. maybe a week or two after on SLS, but I just ignored them.

Because you weren't into it because of his role that he took, right? That scenario. Yeah, his role. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like taking orders like that. It was just annoying. She was into me.

I was into her and he was just like in the way by giving both of us orders. So it really messed up to the night. Yeah, yeah. I get that. What other experiences did you? So what most of the people that would hit you up on there on SLS were white couples? Did you ever get solo females with people would call the unicorn? Probably not, right? I mean, it was mostly couple.

Yes, yeah. I'm glad. Yes, I'm glad you asked it. But that happened right before the first lockdown of last year, which never happens to me at all. Right. It was very random. I was home. I was on SLS on and off like I'm typically, like closer around Wednesday to Friday. Most people are on there just trying to send something up. Okay. Like for the weekend? It's very random. Yeah, for the weekend. Absolutely. So Wednesdays it starts to pick up. So I'm home and I get this very random message on the website.

And it's very straightforward. And it says, I like to get my pussy eaten. So, and you don't see an image of the person. So I start laughing. So I reply. I said, okay, well, can I see you? Yeah. And she, and the person on her side give me access to her pictures.

And I didn't believe it because it was this very attractive Dominican girl. She was short. She was about 115 pounds, curvy and very attractive with a lot of kinky hair, like a big kinky asswell. Yeah. And I'm like, is this real? So we go back and forth. This is all happening like in the early afternoon, which is also very strange for me. So she says, well, can I see you?

I say, sure. So I open my picture. She says, okay, where do you live? and I'm like this cannot be real. Right. So I give her my address and within an hour I see this black Honda pulling up. Oh my God. Yeah, she parks across the street.

I'm all showered. That candles are burning. The house is all clean and whatnot because I didn't expect this to happen. Yeah. And this very, this woman comes into my house and I'm like, holy shit, this girl is really attractive. She comes in my kitchen. We chatted up.

She says, do you have a? any wine. I said, sure, I give her some white wine. We start chatting and she's, you know, I don't do any certification. She's very bossy. I don't do any certification. I'm like, I'm like, damn, okay, what do you mean? What if I don't want to give you a certification? She's very bossy, but very serious. Yeah. And I take off her jacket. I say, can I kiss you? And we started kissing in my kitchen. Then we go straight upstairs. I take off her, she had a long leather boots, take off her boots, and her panties are wet. And I, and I, we started kissing in, and I, I take off her panties, and I just started eating her out.

And we, we fucked for three consecutive days before the first lockdown. No way. She just stayed over? No, she didn't stay over. Not that night. Wait, she just kept coming back. That's even more crazy. Yeah, she, yeah, she did, which was very strange.

And with, because this shit doesn't happen to me. Yeah, yeah. I wish it did. Doesn't happen to both guys. No, it just doesn't happen to me. And we fucked that afternoon. She lived about an hour away. And I could call her up late at night, around 10, 11 o'clock, and say, come over.

Let's fuck. Just like that. And she was like, okay. And for the next three days, she came over and we fucked. We had marathon fuck sessions. And she and I were very aligned sexually, very aligned sexually. She was extremely nasty. I'm extremely nasty.

We did everything. Right. And it was very good. She introduced spitting to me, which I kind of liked. But she started. spitting on me, spitting in my mouth. I started spitting on her, spitting in her mouth. She wanted two fingers in her ass while I was eating her.

She, she, she, she went, I mean, she did everything. Right. She did everything. And then once the lockdown happened, I, I smiled up. I said, holy shit, people are dying from this pandemic. Let me chill out. So we stay in contact. I'm like, we're exchanging lots of fluids and whatnot.

So we stayed in contact and we fucked some more. And I had a lot of plans for us. I really wanted to try some kinks that I had. But I also noticed that she deleted her account online and she was getting kind of like emotionally attached. Oh, to you? Yes, she was because she wanted to hang out. I asked her, hey, how do you feel about swinging with me

with some couples that I know? I said, would you have a problem seeing me have sex with another woman? She was like, I would have problems seeing you have sex with another woman. So it clicked in my mind is that she's really, not in the lifestyle because she deleted her account after she met me and she doesn't want to see me have sex with anyone else. I was hopeful that, okay, now I have a partner that's into the kinks that I like and then I can maybe travel with or play with other couples as a foursome. Yeah.

But she made it, she made it very clear that she really wasn't into that. She was like, I'm not, she really didn't want to acknowledge where we met actually, which is very strange for me. Well, she might have, I mean, did you ask her about her? history had she ever done that was this her first time sort of meeting up with the strange man from online and having sex with him i mean did you did you guys talk about any of that kind of stuff because maybe it was like her first time and she was a little freaked out by it well here here's here's my take yeah on that is that you know i and this is what i said to her i said you know what because i love people to be straightforward and honest with me i said you just don't end up on sLS okay

but you just don't end up on a site like that by actually Either you search for it or you have a certain interest in it, and then you got there by someone else. I didn't go too deep in it, but I just gathered from the information she gave me that she may have done this before. I mean, listen, everyone has different kinds of kinks, right? She had a lot of kinks that you guys were on the same page with, but her thing was not to see you with another woman. Now, let me ask you this. Would you have been into seeing her with another man?

Yes, which is yes, because if I'm not, like in the vanilla world, the women that I've dated in the past, I don't think so. Okay. But the way we met is kind of like a different, it's kind of like a different universe for me where anything goes. And there's no jealousy, there's no envy. And I don't have feelings for her. No, I didn't. I didn't. Not at all.

No, I didn't have feelings for her at all. Right. But, you know, I mean, we talked. She came over. We went hang out before we had sex, and she was good company. So it wasn't like I was very cold to her. You know what I mean? Yeah, no.

How long before things shut down did you guys see each other for? Like, how long did you know each other for a month? That was literally three days before the first shutdown. So, I mean, how could you cop feelings that soon into things? Maybe she felt like she was because sometimes that happens to women they think when they orgasm, There are chemicals that go through women that make them bond a lot quicker than men. But I was thinking like, oh, maybe if there was a different time and you guys kept seeing each other, you might have caught feelings for her.

Here you kind of met your match with her, right? It wouldn't be so vanilla. So if you had that going on, who knows what could have happened? It just wasn't enough time. Yeah, it wasn't enough time. I remember her being, and she was like staying at a hotel just like on the weekend with her friends or whatever. and she invited me out when I was at work, and I declined. I mean, because I didn't know her that well.

I didn't know her that well, and I wasn't ready to go there. But like into the real world with her? Yeah, into real world with her. I saw it as us being able to explore our kinks together. I really wanted a partner that had the same kink and the same nastiness as I like, and that was willing to play with me with other people. And when I think we were close, we were close because I started, started showing her couples that I, that I was interested in.

And she showed me couples that was hitting her up as a unicorn on SLF. And they were so attractive. I was like, you women have it easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These people were beautiful. For sure. And I was very close. I was like, holy shit, I may get better access to better couples with her.

Yeah. It died out. Yeah. Because you've never really had a partner where you could do both, the side of you that dates women and has regular relationships in the same. the kinky side of you have always been two separate things you've never integrated them both do you think that you ever could i mean do you think because you said i didn't have feelings for her so i wanted to see her with other people but do you think that you would not want to is that what you said before

that if you're when you really care about a woman like you wouldn't be interested in swinging with her well it's a good question the more of the podcast i listen of yours yeah and the older i get the less i won't even say possessive because i'm not possessive at all yeah yeah yeah but The more I'm open to finding a partner, I don't want to be in a relationship anymore. I had such bad experience. But hypothetically, if I would define someone, I would definitely introduce them into sharing. That would be, because I think listening to these podcasts, it seems like it stresses the relationship. It does for some people.

I mean, if it's done in the right way and you're with the right partner and you have a really solid foundation between you guys before. beforehand, right? It totally can strengthen the relationship and make the sex even better if that's what you guys are into. Before I did my show, I had no idea. And I always had a lot of guy friends, and we always talked openly about sex. There's always this person, right? I don't, you know, I don't take sex that seriously. So I could get down talking about it. So my guy friends always told me everything, but I never heard from one guy ever, oh, I'm into seeing my girl get fucked by another guy. No way. And then when I first started doing my show, when this topic first came out, I was like, what? I would go back to my guy friends and be like, oh, can you believe this

episode I taped today? Like this guy, like, and they'd be like, I could never, you know, I would never. But, you know, over time, I just realized there are a lot of guys out there that dig it and like it. And I've heard many times on my show, or I have couples on that never even knew that they liked it. And I've asked them, like, right before it happened and you saw your wife, would you have thought that you would be into it? And they're like, no fucking way. But when it happened, they were like, holy shit, I like this. This is a turn on. Like a lot of people have that interest.

It is. It is. A lot more than I would ever imagine. So you might, like you said, that you're now thinking, like maybe I would, you might really be into it. I'm normally talking to the cuck old guy, right? But maybe you would wind up being a cuck if you had. And that doesn't have to have the humiliation aspect involved in it. It could just be that you like to have your woman with another guy.

But you have to meet that woman first and really fall for her. and see if that's something that you'd be in. Yeah, looking at my numbers, it'll be very difficult. The type of women that I meet in the vanilla world, it would be very hard for me to find someone that's willing to do that. So I imagine that if I ever met someone, it would be someone that's already in the lifestyle. But I wouldn't be a cuck.

I would probably be a stag because I want to participate. I wouldn't want to sit in the chair and watch my girlfriend get fuck. I'm already very proactive in the lifestyle, I could never take the role of not being active. So it would just be almost like a lateral move, if you will, of being a stag, and whatnot. But that's definitely something I can see myself doing in the future. I think it works.

And I'm really big into like orgies and stuff like that now. I just really love that type of energy and whatnot. So I would definitely be into it. Like the group sex kind of thing. So I know you said you traveled a lot and to like places where hiring. sex is legal. So did you travel for work or did you travel specifically like for leisure and you went to places where that was the case? I travel. I travel for leisure and often, obviously if I'm single, I still travel. I travel so I travel alone. Yeah. And I go and and but the initial, the, the

me traveling was never for sex. It was just like I'm just very adventurous anyway. Obviously. Yeah. Uh-huh. I'm very adventurous. Yeah. So I travel and I traveled to obviously, Thailand to Hong Kong, to Cape Town, South Africa. And I found myself sitting in a pot of gold. I mean, you've got a pocket full of money. You're far away. You look different. No one knows you.

And so when I went to Hong Kong, it was the most amazing life experience I've ever had. They have these brothels with these little discreet neon lights on the, on the entryway of these buildings, and you just simply walk in them, and you look at a door, it has a picture of the woman, very respectable. You go inside the room. There's a shower. The environment is very sexually encouraging. You pay and you have sex with these women, and I never thought I would do that because I was in

Thailand 20, 25 years earlier when I was in the service, and I had no interest in buying sex. I never thought I would do it. Yeah. But as an older man, it's holy shit. How often will I be able to see with a beautiful Thai woman legitimately? So I did it and I really enjoy it. I think one night I binged it like four or five times. Oh, my God.

And now how does that work when you go into one of those places? Like you see the picture of the girl, right? And then you go in. Now, do you have a conversation about what's on the table or what's not allowed or what is allowed? I mean. Well, it depends. Yeah. It depends.

They have nightclubs. they have brothels. The night clubs are just amazing because you can tell any taxi driver you want women and they'll take you to one. They already know where they are. So you just get it and say women. And they're like, okay. You could just say women. And actually a lot of the taxi drivers in Hong Kong and Thailand, they'll bring it up to you. Do you want women tonight? Especially at night. Oh, interesting. Okay. And you say yes or no. You say, no, I'm not interested. I want to go out to dinner. They say, oh, you want to see women? You say yes, and they'll take you right there.

You don't know where the hell you're going. In Hong Kong, for example, they have this huge nightclub, I guess. And there's a lot of men outside, and they treat you with the red carpet treatment. You get out of your cab, and they look at you, they grab your hand, and they bring you into this huge, this huge nightclub. And what you see is amazing. You see maybe 30 or 40 Asian women, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful ways. women with numbers, with numbers on their, on their dresses or whatever.

You order a drink, you mingle, whatever, and you, you point to the ones that you want. You see, I want number 18. And someone says 18 and she stands up and then she escorts you to the other side of the building where she has her room. And a mama son comes in there, drops off towels and whatnot. It's really amazing. Wow. And you can say I want 18, 5, and 6 and leave with three women.

There's no big deal. It's whatever you want. And there's, like you said, a mama son that's helping out. They have these hostesses that are there to help you. They help you. They get you your drink. You sit down. They say, what do you want tonight?

And the women are like, they're like raising their hand at you. Oh, pick me, pick me. Which, you know, it's crazy. Now, do you see couples in there? Is it mostly guys? Yeah. It's all guys. And local guys, too.

It's not American or European men. It's like local guys as well. Oh, interesting. And the girls seem of age, at least? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's legitimate. Trust me. I know the difference.

It's legitimate. And you could tell the women are way or older. And it's so well organized. It almost takes the fun out of it. Right. But if nothing seedy about it, it's really well organized. The women, they wash you. That's really big in Asia.

They bathe you before sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're very clean. It's a cleanliness is number one. Uh-huh. So I did that experience, and I did another experience where I went into a massage pollen, and I was getting a massage, and by this, she was a mature Asian woman with a big bush. Uh-huh. And your bush. You love that. Yeah, I love that. Yeah.

And she was attractive, but she was older. And she started massaging me, and I'm like, okay. And then she just starts staring. at me like okay what's next I'm like am I supposed to like have sex with this woman here and she's looking at me so I open her legs she's beautiful thick legs and beautiful feet and long dark hair again and I put on my condom and I have sex I enter her she just starts wailing out and moaning and I see her creaming on me which turns me on yeah and I and I go at it and I go at it she's definitely feeling and I'm feeling it I

I come and I'm like, holy shit. It was just a huge rush for me because I'm like, I'm having sense with this, this mature Asian woman and it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just hooked and I was just so turned on. It was crazy. And she was into it. I mean, it wasn't even, because I think some people,

the turn off to paying someone for sex is that maybe they feel like, oh, they're just doing it for the money. I mean, you really, you know, you saw her physically. You could see that she was. actually really into you and turned on by the scenario. Yeah. And you've had, I've had experience with a woman was mechanic, mechanical. She was very mechanical about it. Yeah. You could tell it was just a routine, but this experience is really good because I saw her screaming. She was moaning. Yeah. I was into it. It was great. I also had a Filipino woman in Hong Kong. She was younger. She probably was like in her early

20s, she was very attractive. And we had sex in a brothel. You had to pay this brothel. She wasn't like a part of it. You had to walk into it and pay. Yeah. So I paid like $10. And after we had sex, she was like, okay, you don't have to pay me.

I'm like, no, I'm going to pay you. So she was into it as well. Because I never had a woman say, you don't have to pay me. I was like, you know, why would I not want to pay you? I paid it, but she was very attractive. And we had good sex that night. Yeah. I was binging. I was really binging. I even in my hotel, I even ordered, I did the room service. I ordered a woman to come, but she was not my type. And she didn't look like her pictures. So I just, no, we're not going to do that. Wait a second. Tell me that experience. How do you find out, okay, because like I get that you could go. There's all this code shit going down that. You have to kind of be in the know to know this, right?

Right. Where are you? What country are you in that you could order? Well, well, you go online. Well, listen, let me tell you something about me. When I want something, I find a way. There's always a reminder to me that I can really achieve anything. Yeah. When it comes to, like, sex and meeting what I want, I really go deep. Yeah.

And I find it. Yeah. And they have these apps or they have these websites in Asia where you just say like Asian prostitutes or escorts, rather. And they have these sites, and you can change. from whatever language you want. English, Spanish, whatever. So, you know, I found this

website and you go online and you put in the city where you're staying. I was staying in Calhoun, Calhoun, which is very popular in Hong Kong. And I put Calhoun in, I put the area code, and then they

have these pictures of these women. And it's just kind of like escorting. They're laying on their bed with stockings on. They have They have online now or offline. You just pick the one that you're attracted to and you order them. And they come. And they come to your, and they're like, they come to your hotel.

Right. And now how bad do you feel that you have to send her packing because you're not interested in her? Like, I don't know. How do you tell a woman that without, I don't know, I would be insulted. No, yeah. Yeah, no. I think she knew that I knew she wasn't. I was like, okay, you don't look like the picture.

I don't think she was insulted. at all. Really? She looked kind of out of place, like she was just trying to hustle. But I was smart enough. I was staying in a very, very well-known nice hotel there. And so she was just completely out of place. You know what I mean?

But I just, I kindly said, yeah, this is not going to happen. And before she did that, though, I said, let me see your ass. And she pulled down a panty so I can see her ass because I was like, shit, I'm horny. Yeah. But I was like, you know what? It's not worth it. So she left. It was no problem.

Oh, yeah. No problem for you. I put down my ass and show it to someone and they're like, oh, no, thanks. You could leave now. I thought I'd go home and cry. Right. I know. I know.

I mean, how many times does that happen for you? Even going back to SLS, right, when you're, I mean, most of the time on there, you're seeing pictures, right? But I don't get that, I don't get that concept of people posting fake picks or even not fake picks, but picks from 20 years ago, right? Looking where you look so much better. Why do people do that? that shit. I don't understand. Yeah, I know. I know the difference. I know the difference. I guess what

my, the most common thing for me would be that it would be a little bit heavier. But most of them look like they look. Right. Did you go back to Thailand and Hong Kong a lot because, you know, of all the sex you have there and you're like, oh, this is a great place to travel? Well, I've been to Hong Kong twice. The other time, I guess it wouldn't really count because it was a layover, but no, I don't, I don't travel for sex. I don't travel for sex. It was kind of like, I want to have some fun. Yeah, and Hong Kong, I mean, there's a huge language, yeah.

Yeah, Hong Kong looks amazing. I mean, I live in a city, so I like cities and Hong Kong, when I see pictures of it, it looks fucking amazing the way that the city, just visually looking, right? It's, I've heard, and I have friends that I've been, and they say it's like nothing you've ever experienced before, right? Just like as far as traveling for fun. It's really, I'm so adventurous just by nature. Yeah.

So, and when I tell people I'm all over the world, I've been to like 60 countries, I'm all over the world by myself. They always are like, why? And I'm just like, this is just how you've got to live your life. And when you're in a place as exciting as Hong Kong, it's just, it's like, I could do whatever I want. Mm-hmm. It's such a beautiful, exciting place. And then if you put the element of women into it, it really, it really brings a trip to 100.

Now, since COVID, because I know that you said right before the lockdown, you had that girl that you met. That was great. You don't talk to her anymore, right? No, I have a tendency of, it sounds awful. I have a tendency of I work a lot, but I also have a tendency of if we're not having sex, there's no reason for us to talk. Uh-huh. So I would go a few days or a week or so, we wouldn't talk unless we wanted, unless she wanted something, I wanted something. And it was a period where we didn't talk, and she texted me like, did I scare you away?

And I replied, no. I said, we play sometimes and we take breaks, and then she blocked me. So that was it. Yeah. Listen, I think it's smart to have ended things with her because even for her, she didn't understand that she might have been copping feelings. And you have to, I think, to have a really successful, just booty call relationship, there shouldn't be anything other than that because that's when it starts, the lines start to get

blurred and everything. When I have a lot of guy friends that are like just banging girls and they're like, oh, she wants this and she wants that. I'm like, yeah, that's because you're texting her 24-7 and you are hanging out with her other times. So like, you know, your action should match what you're saying is going on. If you just want to fuck, buddy, just fuck and that's it. Don't be using them to feed your ego in between and all this bullshit. If that's all you want, don't lead her on because all that other blah, blah, blah, shit, emojis and all that crap. Well, make a girl think you like her.

Just fucking text her when you want to have sex and that's it and then see you later. So I think it's better that you put a halt to that because what she didn't understand, because she wasn't consciously like trying to make you her boyfriend, but she would have started to cop feelings with you when you start to cross that line. So I think it is better to keep it clean like that. That's the way to have a, to really find the right girl for you that will, is okay with just having that. and that's all she's really looking for. There shouldn't be any other stuff.

I've had successful long-term booty calls, and there's nothing else going on besides that. Let's fuck. Okay, see you later. And then you go back to your life and you forget about them until you're horny. And that's it. And I've had unsuccessful booty calls.

I've been the girl that caught feelings for people I'm just having contacts with tons of times in my life. And it's because there's all that other nonsense going on. And I live alone. I live in a nice home. I live alone. I don't have any kids running around. So there's no excuse for her.

to not stay over here. She stayed over here one night or two. Yeah. But they see that. They see the space. Yeah. You see that you're home and they could just have a place to get away. Yeah. And it's just really just, it could be a disaster because it's not what I wanted. Yeah. But I mean, listen, she had balls to do what she did, right? To go on there. Find a guy that she didn't know go to his house. Like she was really living out her sexual fantasies. So for her to maybe try to see if that could translate into something else. I get it. Why not?

Because it would probably be hard for her to find a guy that she could do that with and maybe even not consciously, but subconsciously she was feeling it out if this could be something else. Because even when you were telling me the story, it was like, oh, this might be actually a really good girl for you to date. Because if you had that other stuff going on, you could really be all of who you are in one relationship. So I get why she would feel that way.

But I think it was smart of you to cut it off and not lead her on because a lot of guys do in that situation and it's bullshit. Well, she cut me off. Well, good for her. Yeah. Good for her. She blocked me. Yeah. He blocked me. So I don't chase and I respect people's face. No, but that's good. Yes.

Yeah, and good for her to do that because maybe she was starting to cop feelings if she got such an emotional reaction to that, that she was like blocking. If she was my friend, I'd be like, that's good. Get away from him. He's giving you the clear message that he doesn't want what you want or it's not going to go that way. So whatever. Fuck him.

Definitely. So have you seen anybody else? Let's end it on this. What's been going on since her? Have you been doing any kind of bull scenarios? I have. Okay. I have.

I met a couple about a year or so ago. And we talk regularly. Yeah. And this is a very attractive white couple, well-to-do, big family, busy life. And our first experience was mind-blown because this woman is a bombshell. Right. And, and she's, she's exactly what I like. A beautiful woman, natural blonde, fat ass, small perky tits, beautiful faith, beautiful teeth, all of that. And we hit it off our first episode in the hotel. We had a great time. And then we stayed in contact. And we played,

we played about a month ago. And they invited me on vacation in this summer and I'm going to go with them. So hopefully that works out. well. Oh, no way. Now, where did you see them when you saw them recently? Was that? I, we, well, the first time we went to a hotel, had a blast. And the second time, they invited me to their home. That's how I know their house is just beautiful. Oh, okay. So they, they, they have a huge home. So they stuck me into their home. And we had a great night. A great night. It was about, about a seven, eight hour night. It was like, I got there like around nine o'clock, and I left real four. Oh, wow. And the guy got involved.

And was that kind of similar? Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a stag. He's a stag. He's older, but attractive and fit. And this guy could fuck all night long. More than me, actually. I gotta be honest.

Right. Yeah, he, you know, he cleans up occasionally. I clean up my own occasionally. Uh-huh. And the most recent episode we had was at the same hotel. And we actually did anal. You with her? Me with her, which was a next level of intimacy with them because I know them.

You know what I mean? It was great. It was a great. It was another long night. It was great. So this is my first experience actually staying in contact with a couple. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Now, where did they invite you? They said they're going away and they said, hey, can you come? We'll pay for you. They're going to a lifestyle resort in the Caribbean. Oh, interesting. Okay. And they invited me. So it's a lifestyle resort.

So there would be a lot of sex in the open and whatnot. So, you know, I was like, sure, I'll go. So I booked. We'll see if it works out. I hope it works out because they're fun to be around, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll have to call it and give us that story. It'll be a little update.

Yeah. And I met another couple. Yeah. This is the second by couple, a couple, about a month or so ago. And the sex with them was out. It was outrageous. It was so good. but, and we're trying to hook up again.

Very attractive couple there. And she, I just devoured her because she turns to me, she ticks all of my buttons, man. It's just the sex with her is very fulfilling. So I'm trying my damn is to get back to them. So we're working on it. Wow. People are going to love your stories.

I mean, I know in the beginning before we started taping, you were like, I don't know, I don't really have a story here. I was like, yeah, trust me, you do. I knew you would Wait until you see the numbers of this I mean like I said I look at the stats of things Right so I could tell like what kind of kinks are really popular Compared to others and like I said I was very surprised in the beginning that this kind of thing

Even existed But it it does exist So there's a lot of people that are into it because they're always downloaded I love that I got to talk to you because like I said I haven't had this angle and I think people are going to be so into hearing from the Black Bull because that's who you are. Right, absolutely. Yeah, it's great. I love your stories.

I love how honest you were about everything. You weren't too graphic. This was fucking fascinating. And people are going to love it. Thank you so much for calling in, Wesley. Thanks so much. Bye. Thank you.

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