Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 724 - Amanda has Been Cheating on her Husband with Different Men

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Amanda has cheated on her husband with multiple men and she called in to talk all about it. When did she start cheating on him? Why did she cheat? And, what went down with the guys she cheated on him with? Tune in to hear all the details including how she found out her husband had cheated on her early on in their marriage, why he said he cheated, who he cheated on her with and how she felt about it when she found out, her first affair she had with her co-worker and how and why it started, where they wound up having sex, how and why the affair made her feel empowered and why it eventually ended, how she met the second guy she cheated on with and why she liked him so much, how and why they started communicating with each other online and how her husband found out she was talking to him and found out she had cheated with the other guy as well, how he reacted and why they wound up staying together, how and why she continued to have an emotional affair with the second guy, his backstory including his commitment issues, their first time having sex and how and why it was so good, how she’s now super into him but still has no intention of leaving her husband just yet, how and why her and her husband have never worked in their marriage and how their complacency plays a big part in that, how all the outside sec has made her realize she’s be done to enter into the lifestyle and all the fantasies she’s looking to live out plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just go on YouTube. Put in my podcast name. You'll find it. If you're listening over there, make sure it subscribe. Now today I have on Amanda. Amanda's story is great because it's relatable. Oh my God. Her story, whether you're a man or a woman in an unhappy marriage and you're cheating, you're going to be able to fucking relate to Amanda. It's such a common thing. Her story is that she's been married for a really long time. She has had two separate affairs. She's cheated on her husband two different times with two different guys. She did find out early on in her relationship with her husband, and early on their marriage after kids. He had cheated on her.

We start there. We talk about that, how she found out that he cheated, who he cheated on her with, how she felt about it, how and why they started to disconnect big time in their marriage. And this is a couple that's been together like for over 30 years. But instead of leaving, she's just getting her needs met somewhere else.

And what happened to hers, what happens to a lot of people. She's not happy at home. Things aren't really that great. She's not feeling that good about herself. She's at work. There's a co-worker there. She starts bitching about her bad marriage and boom, he comes in, takes the window of opportunity and starts banging her. Okay, that's guy number one. She talks all about the sex with guy number one where they were banging each other, how it was going down. She was just using him for sex. We go over that guy. He was married to or had a bunch of wives. I don't know, his story, but we talk about that. The first guy. And then that ended because he had to leave. But there was like a little overlap where she met a delivery guy who came in. to her job and that was another guy who she just started talking to and she felt an instant connection with him. They wound up kissing. It was another thing where she just felt like,

oh my God, the fucking chemistry because she feels nothing for her guy. Okay, it's one of those typical things. Her and her husband are still together, but she's not really attracted to him anymore. It is what it is, but she doesn't have plans to leave him and she's getting this fucking fun elsewhere. So the second guy comes in, she's totally into it. him. He lives far away. They have an emotional affair on Facebook. Her husband winds up finding out. She talks about that. He finds out through those Facebook message. She also cheated with the first guy. He, like, begs her to stay. She's not leaving anyway anytime soon. So she stays. She promises not to see the guy, but she continues. And they eventually recently fucked the guy number two and she's

loving him. He's got a huge dick. She's into it. Now she's got all these fantasies. She's she cops to the fact that she listens to my podcast like every day at work and she's just dying to get in the lifestyle have threesomes fuck black guy she's bigger dicks the better now that she'd been dignitized by this last guy and she's really though she's in love with this guy number two the second guy there's there's the there's the first guy and the second guy she's really into the second guy we talk about the red flags with him though i mean i don't personally think she should leave her husband for any of these people i don't know that she's going to ever leave her We talk a lot about their relationship, these other relationships, her reasons for cheating.

It's a very common story. Like I said, I think a lot of people are going to be able to relate to her story. She's super honest about everything, which I appreciate. So I'm going to be right back on with Amanda. Hi, Amanda. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good.

Thank you. How are you? I'm good. So listen, Amanda, you are a cheater. I'm just going to come right out and say it. Okay. You're married. You're currently married.

married. I have a lot of questions for you. And you've cheated on your husband twice. You have two guys, two guys. And I don't know, would you call them affairs? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, because they're long term, right? You've cheated on your guy with two zipper guys. And then something that we're going to end with is like one of these guys, and maybe it's the most recent one, has really made you start to think that, like, you really want to get into the lifestyle. Like, this secret life of yours is getting you in touch with parts of yourself that you want to start exploring, correct? Absolutely.

Okay. Oh my God. So let's find out all the naughty things you're doing with your guys. But let's get a little backstory on your relationship. We got to go there. So how long you've been married? We've been married for 17 years. And how long you've been together?

About 32. Oh my God. That's a long time. I think that's the better, I think that's a better question. Okay. Married together for 32 years. And how old are you now? Okay.

So now how long into your marriage was your marriage? your first affair that when you started cheating? My first one was in 2018. So it was five years ago. So it was a long time. I mean, you were monogamous in that relationship with your husband for most of your marriage and time together. Absolutely.

Yes. Now, I think that he cheated on you too, right? Is that correct? Did. He did once. Once that I know of that he admitted to, yes. Okay. But now, did that come first?

Yes. Okay, so let's stir there. How did you find out? He felt he had to come clean. He felt so guilty by he had to come clean and tell me about it. Wow. So you didn't even know anything. He comes to you one day and just dumps his guilt on you and is like, by the way, I fuck somebody else while we were.

And you had no clue, no suspicions, no nothing? No. I was always the mom, the wife who stayed home. I worked part time. I was home while he went out and did his stuff, his running, his fishing and all that happy stuff. the guys do. I was always left home. So, I mean, if he didn't come home until eight, nine o'clock at night, it was nothing out of the ordinary for me. So one day, though, what does he say? And who was it with? What was this story? So it was actually with a woman who has been trying to

steal him from me since we started dating. You're in two years ago. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He went big. Oh, yeah. And then she practically stalked me. We live in a very, very small town. and going for a walk with my kids at night and she'd be hanging out on the corner looking for him, all that happy shit. Yeah. No, he just pulled me aside one day and he said that he had to tell me something

he felt guilty about. He couldn't live with it anymore and he came out and told me. I honestly didn't have a lot of emotion about it. Really? What do you mean? I was very, very... I have three children

and when you're caught up and raising those children and doing what's best for them, I'm just preoccupied all the time with that. So, and I don't know, to me, it's almost like an indication that maybe even then I wasn't as happy as I think I should have been or should still be in a marriage. Oh, meaning you didn't really care that much. Yeah, and I know that's terrible to say, but I think that's kind of where I was coming from. It sounds like it because I would think that you would be devastated.

Listen, I can understand why you would stay. You have three kids and all that stuff, but that wasn't my question. Why did you stay? It was how did you feel? And you were like, I was preoccupied with my kids. I mean, it sounds like maybe what you're saying, that you weren't that invested in him anymore even at that point. I mean, do you have three kids by that time?

Oh, yeah. We started having kids before we got married. So my kids are, I have two adult children, one almost an adult children. So we've been, we had kids before we got married, one after we got married. Wow. Okay. So listen, I think that kids do throw a big curveball into a relationship. and things definitely change.

And here you are a mom to three kids. So somewhere along the line, your husband was like back burner for you. I mean, and I think sometimes listen, it's hard for the guys too, right? I get where you're coming from, your home,

taking care of all this stuff, doing all that hard work while your husband goes out and fishes and does that fun stuff and then he cheats on you. But maybe he felt like you weren't paying attention to him because you had those three kids and you were just the mom.

Because listen, I get it. I have a child. Like you're going to love your fucking children more than your husband most of the time. I'm sorry. It's like a different kind of a thing. And a lot of times guys do get left in the dust. And it's a hard thing for them because they were number one. And now in your case with your husband, he was number four.

Right. And he did say it was because there wasn't enough sex in our relationship is what his excuse was. Right. Was it an excuse? Maybe there wasn't. I mean, did you have fucking time to fuck him at the end of the night after taking care of all those kids and staying home. Full-time mom is hard work. It is. And men don't understand that.

I mean, I can see where men feel like you're left behind, but they don't understand how much of ourselves we give up. I mean, my whole body and my whole life, when you have kids, they take up every ounce of it, unfortunately. Yeah, but listen, both things can be true at the same time. It doesn't mean that they're wrong for feeling that way, but what's fucked up is that they don't understand where the woman's coming from and what is the solution.

I always wish they always had those shows on TV. Like they'll do wife swap or they do. oh change positions of work for a day like the boss becomes the worker why don't they ever do the husband stays home and is a full time fucking parent and the woman goes to work so that a man really knows because even women that don't have kids don't know unless you have literally taken care of children yourself full time not go to work and come home at six o'clock like some people do like Full-time mom, unless you've actually done it, you don't fucking get every little thing you do every fucking second of the day. And I had one, okay?

And for me, I chose to stay home. It was very important for me in the beginning years of my son's life to have me as a full-time mom. I love that job, but it's fucking exhausting, hard work. It's not just the physical stuff that you have to do. It's a child hanging on you and you're breastfeeding and they're training. snotty and you're lucky to get a shower at the end of the day with a lot of things and they just don't even grasp that. No, no one grasps it unless they've done it. When I do believe that men would be shocked if they actually had to do it for even just one week. But no man has ever been put

in that position. They should do that show. I think it would be a great show because I think that the guys would come out of it having so much more respect for their wives because they don't get it. I always make jokes on my show because I had a child, but I think that the guys would come out of it. I think didn't have a husband. I had a child on my own. And I was always happy at the end of the night that I didn't have to get in bed and blow somebody. Like seriously, I thought of women with husbands. And I'm like, oh my God, to have that extra person to take care of or fuck or at the end of the night. Exhausting. Touching you and blah. But I'm going to say for the man too, though, he does still feel left out. And that's still valid too. Right. What is the solution I don't really know,

but we're going to move past it. But so he did say, though, that. He did say, though, Listen, I did it. He felt bad enough about it to tell you. I have respect for that. I don't know that he cheated on you other times after that because he never came and told you. I mean, this is a guy that came to you. You had no suspicions. You weren't harassing him.

You didn't feel distrustful. He just copped to it. He probably didn't do it any other time. He's probably a very monogamous guy. And that girl, yeah, I bet you if that girl wasn't there fucking hounding him, maybe he would have never cheated on you. But he kind of was like, it was like the perfect storm. here he is a guy being denied sex.

He really wants it. And he's got this woman that's been fucking after him. Like that cunt was not going to let him go. Like she, so she got him at the right time, unfortunately. Oh, yeah. And she had done so many things to us in the past. That's what floored me the most.

Right. That he chose her after what she did to us. Right. Well, obviously, she's boundaryless. I mean, the fact that she can't get off your husband's jock for so many years makes her a little bit like a psycho. You know what I mean? She's got like mental, mental issue.

So I think that's why he chose her. But probably it wasn't as deep as what you think. I get why you're like that fucking cunt. You know what I mean? That's the worst person. But she was the easiest. That's what is probably the case. She didn't fucking leave him alone.

So she was just there. And then he felt so bad he told you, you got over it. I guess because you didn't care like you didn't get distrustful or anything. Or is that true? I really can't say, Kathy, because I just felt like if he's going to do it, he's going to do it. He's going to be the bad guy. There's really nothing I can do to change it. I felt I was putting forth every effort that was that I had.

And I was getting nothing back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, listen, this is all typical marriage stuff. This is why people cheat on both sides, women and men. So let's fast forward to when you start cheating, the first, like the first guy that you wind up with. Okay. So he was a coworker. And we had been a co-workers for, oh, a year, maybe less than a year.

And he was super nice. We got along great. We had great chemistry. We worked well together. All those things. My husband and I were still, well, we just had the average marriage. I still had very little interest in sex. Oh, no.

And then we had, I don't know, we, we, him and I had an argument one day or something. And I said to the coworker, we're going to call him Kevin. Yeah. I said to Kevin. So I don't even know if I have a marriage when I get home tonight. I said he's being such a dick when he was immediately on it. Window of opportunity. You're beautiful.

He, all those things, and it just escalated from there. And we had sex probably, probably only about six times over the course of a year and a half. Yeah, where was all the sex taking place? I like that. You laugh because it's probably in the fucking car and the woods. In the basement bathroom of where we work. Oh, no way. Oh, my God.

Dirty bathroom sex. During work hours? No, no, no, before work hours. I was able to get there early when he was. able to get there early and it was just quick little jaunts in the bathroom before everybody else got there. Oh my God, but what was like that first experience for you? Because I'm assuming like, listen, you're a woman who hasn't fucked her husband in so long. You're not interested in sex. You've been with the same man forever. Like what was that like to fuck a guy? Okay. Empowering is the only way

that I can put it. Wow. Because you know, by this point in my life, I didn't feel attractive. I'd have course gained weight because I had had babies and a surgery and to have this man who's younger than me, are that interested in me? And we had such sexual chemistry. It was crazy. And that was when I realized that the chemistry between my husband and I is missing.

There is, I don't have that sexual chemistry with him. I really, really don't. And that's terrible to say after 32 years, but I just don't. And to this day, I still don't feel that chemistry.

Listen, I got to get to the, eventually I'm going to get to the question. Like, why the fuck are you still with him to this day. Okay, your kids are grown. I mean, give me a break. We'll talk about that later, okay? But let's just stay here. Listen, sexual chemistry isn't going to be there if you fucking hate somebody. That's like the first thing to go out the window when you lose everything else

with each other. So it sounds like you and your husband were like living separate lives for a long time. Which came first? Probably your guy's distance. And then when someone's distant and you're not really communicating and you're not really liking each other, how you expect to have fucking chemistry with somebody. This is like a very common thing in marriages on both sides. Like I said, this is the reason why men cheat, okay? And this is the women why reason why women cheat. And listen, a lot of times it's the person in the office because those are the ones that you're around a lot. And like you said, this guy wasn't fucking stupid. He saw his window of opportunity. And he gave you exactly what you wanted, like attention and compliments like that. If your

husband was doing that to you, maybe that would have sparked your attraction to him. him again, but that wasn't happening at home. No. Nope. It wasn't happening. And this, like I said, empowering is the only way that I can describe it, the way he made me feel. Oh my God. Did you tell anyone about it or was it like your naughty secret for that whole year? I have one person in the whole world that I can talk to about it. Uh-huh. Who's that? And she was like, high-fiving me. Your friend. Yeah. My best friend from high school. We only get to see each other about three times a year, but when we have, we get together, it's usually like a three-hour conversation over

lunch or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, like I said, the 10 times already, and I'm going to say 10 more times. This is this very common situation, especially in long-term marriages with a lot of kids, people wind up in this place. And a lot of women that are married with kids would be fucking high-fiving you that you're fucking your coworker in the bathroom and they'd wish they were a year. It's pretty hot. You know what I'm saying? It's no different than the guy who's cheating on his wife with the fucking hot secretary at work. His guy friends would be high-fiving him too. I mean, this is just human being nature shit. So you were able to tell her. So you fucked him about six times like through that whole time. Why did it end? Did he like leave work or something? Yeah, he got transferred to a

different location. Okay. And so, but the sex was great the whole time. Yes. Yep. Now, did you feel like you came home with any kind of stink on you? Because I feel like there's like a sex smell that lingers afterwards. Did your husband ever look at you funny during that time? Because here you are empowered. You're getting fucked. Like, how did he not notice? This is what's so wrong about relationships. Like you're saying he didn't notice, right? I mean, how did he not? What's fucking wrong with people that they have no sense of what's going on with the person that they live with? That's just said. He was so involved in what he was doing and what he wanted to do. That he didn't even see how happy you were suddenly.

Nope. Unless he did and he just didn't say anything. Yeah, who knows? I mean, at this point there's such a disconnect between you and your husband. I mean, look, so many years before he cheated on you and you didn't even care. That's kind of sad. I know. I know it is.

It really says something. And maybe he did cheat on you afterwards because he's like she doesn't even fucking care. And you didn't fuck him for so long. Like you said, by the time he started this relationship, you weren't fucking your husband. And I have to say, what do you expect a guy to do if he. were having sex. It just wasn't as often as he thought it should be. Well, how often was it? Oh, once a week or so. Oh, okay. Okay. I thought you were going to say once a lot. Okay. It wasn't getting any. It just wasn't what he thought he should be getting. Of course. I think a lot of times there's a

difference in sex drive of how much a man wants it compared to a woman, especially at different times, especially if there's kids. And that's a real problem too. I was always like when I was younger because I just always felt like how could one woman keep one man comfortable or satisfied? Most men are not going to be with one woman, especially when all these other things come into play. I wish we were raised to know, believe that it's totally normal. Just pimp your husband out to go get fucked by somebody else that let someone else do that job and that we wouldn't care about it. But we're not raised that way. And then it becomes this really hard thing. And it's kind of unrealistic. And it's the reason why so many people are like still married because you don't want to leave. You have children.

You're sharing income and it's helping out. I understand why people say there's so many reasons for it. But this is a very common problem on both sides for men and women. I don't want people to go after you because you're a woman. Men do the same shit. And women do it too. It's very common. So let me ask you a quick question. While you were getting fucked by this guy and now you're having like great sex with him,

was the sex with your husband any better or anything because you just had that spark over there? Or was it still like terrible with him? Um, it's physical. I don't know how to explain it. It was better, but in my head I was somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what you were using those thoughts. And that's why it was better, right? That's what I would think.

Yeah, I would think on some level you would be maybe more interested because you're having this dirty sex and maybe you're thinking about it, but it's not about him, but it kind of like rejuvenated sex for you in general. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so, okay, let's talk about the next guy. When does that happen? The next guy.

Yeah. So I did actually meet number two. Yeah. We're going to call him Adam. Adam, okay. While Kevin and I were still working together. Oh, so super naughty. We have to get deliveries to where I work.

Okay. We have to get deliveries. And he was an out of town delivery person. And I don't know. We just sparked immediately. The conversation was easy. He's older and I like older men. Yeah, it was just easy.

And then we started Facebook messaging and then we ended up texting back and forth. We used WhatsApp to text back. and forth a lot. And he came in one day, not long after we first started talking in my store. And it was funny because he came in to the delivery and he left and came back in again. He says, can you meet me downstairs? Oh, my God, the same bathroom? Right. No, well, we only kissed. But when I went downstairs and like we went two separate times, so we didn't raise any suspicions. And then when I was down there before him and he came down

and he just walked over to me and just laid a kiss on me and it fucking rocked my world. Oh my goodness. Rocked my world. I call it Train Rack. That's his nickname from me is Train Rack. Probably shouldn't say that. You could edit it out if you'd like that. No, no, no.

I love that. Why? I mean, why train Rack? Because he just took you off the rails? Like earth shaking. You know what I mean? Just the chemistry of what he made me feel as a woman into my core was just absolutely amazing. Now, were you still fucking number of?

one at this time. I know you met him during number one. Was there any overlap? We hadn't. There was no overlap. I think one time that might have been overlap. But we hadn't had Kevin and I hadn't for a long time because he had this problem with following through. He would make promises and leave me hanging numerous times. So that's kind of why I just like, you know what? My feelings deserve more than this. Yeah. So we are still friends and we do still talk to this day. But, and I've even said we've even tried to hook up, but he can never follow through. Yeah, unfortunately, that's the case. You could be offering free sex to a guy and they're still fucking flaky.

I mean, that's just life. He's still flaking out on me. Yeah. There's, there's most of the time, there's no perfect scenarios out there. There's always something wrong. But wait, so number one, I forgot to ask, was he married or anything? Or was he a single guy? He was married. Yeah, he was on his third marriage.

Oh, my goodness. No wonder why. How many people he was fucking juggling why he was flaky. And I knew there was never a future with him, but I wasn't looking for a future with anybody. I was just looking for the sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now the second guy, number two, Adam, is he married? He has not.

He has never been married. Okay. So here's the guy, this guy rolls in, and it's like instant connection too with him. But more so, it sounds more so with this guy. Absolutely more so, yes. With this guy, Adam, are you still with him now? I still see him, yes. And I would like more with him.

He lives two and a half hours away from me. So getting together is very difficult. Yeah. So like we had our first kiss and then it was two years later before we saw each other again. Why? He just stopped delivering to your work? Yeah. Yeah.

We had our kiss and literally a week later his job moved him to a different location for delivery. Oh, shit. Oh, and he lived for our way, right? so he wasn't coming for work. Were you still communicating with him on like Facebook and stuff? Yes, every day. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then my husband found the messages on Facebook that we were sending back and forth.

So I was caught. And busted. And we had one whole day where our kids just happened to all be out of town and doing their own things. And we headed out and talked when fought and had the few tears and things like that all day. And he begged me to stay and try and work it out. and I chose to I can't afford to live by myself

because I don't work enough money and I don't want to disrupt my children before I have one more still in school she'll graduate in another year and a half so these are the reasons why people these are the very common reasons why people stay it's not so easy yeah and a difference too between

Kevin and Adam Kevin he wanted he still would if I would tell him I'm single and I want you he would leave this girlfriend and come to me in a heartbeat I know he would I don't want that with him. He's all about him. Everything is about him.

I stay because it's the right thing to do for my kids, for my kids and for that's what's expected of me. Where Kevin just does what he wants, it doesn't matter if he disrupts his children's lives or anything like that or anybody else's. Listen, you're no dumb dumb. This guy's got a track record, three marriages. Now he's got a girlfriend.

He's, you know, taking you from your husband. I mean, you get this guy's not like boyfriend material, let alone a husband material. I mean, you're not leaving anyone for that guy. I get it. But Adam is a different story. But why has he never been married? Do you guys ever talk about that?

Adam has a very troubled past. He was raised in a big city with a lot of drugs around. His mom died when he was a teenager. His dad's a real piece of shit. He had been in jail. He has been hooked on drugs. He has been homeless. He was in an 11-year relationship with a woman who wouldn't leave her husband.

He was very much in love with her. He gave her the boot after we started talking because he had just gotten to a point where he had had enough with her. But he has always this whole time said, I will not break up a marriage because I won't do that to you and I can't live with that. So it's always been he wants me. We both feel like we're meant to be together. I mean, that's just how we feel together. I don't know if that's just the high of how the whole situation is or if that's true, true, true. feelings. I do love him. He has told me the same thing. But he just is more respectful because

I am married. I know it sounds terrible because we're married. I shouldn't be doing anything with him. I just hate to be the bearer of bad news. And I'm just going to say this. And maybe it's not the case. But what you just told me about Adam, Adam is number number two. I just like number one, number two. It's easier to keep track of, right? So number two, Adam, the main guy, I mean, I mean, unfortunately, look at his track record. He was in love with a woman that was with a husband for 11 years. He left her to be with another woman that's with a husband. And I don't necessarily believe, no offense, he might be a nice guy.

Okay, I'm not saying he's not nice, but I don't necessarily believe that the reason why he doesn't tell you to leave your husband is because he's so respectful of your marriage. if he was so respectful of your marriage, he wouldn't be fucking you to begin with, and he wouldn't fuck that lady for 11 years that had a husband. It might be because you're safe. He doesn't want you to leave your husband. The last thing he could ever handle is somebody having a close relationship with him because of his trauma. Your distance, your marriage, your everything makes it so safe for him to care about you

because there's distance. If you left your husband tomorrow, he'd probably run for the fucking hills. sorry to say. That's a very good chance. I never thought about it that way. But yeah, you need to, Amanda, because you're not dysfunctional like him. Like you have been in relationships

and you're probably capable of that. But he might not be. And that's okay. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't leave your husband for him unless he started to change his tune because like I said, I don't necessarily believe

that's the reason why he's saying stay in your relationship. I think he'd be petrified if you told him you were leaving your husband tomorrow for him. Fucking petrified. because I don't know that he's capable of really falling in love and having an everyday, really close relationship. Look at what he's been through in his life. Everyone's abandoned him.

He has issues, commitment issues. It's very common. And he did have a long-term, he did have a long-term relationship with one person. They weren't, I don't know why they never married. They never had children. She had been married and divorced and had children. He never has, he doesn't have any biological of his own. I don't know why they never got married.

I've never asked. But maybe when that ended, like, it was. was so traumatizing for him that he could never do it. He tried it once and couldn't. And there's a lot, like there's a lot of layers when it comes to somebody that has that kind of trauma and that kind of commitment stuff doesn't just blow over because he falls in love with someone. It's not, it's not the movies. You know what I'm saying? It's, they can't help it. It doesn't matter if he loved you. His subconscious fucking wiring of being so petrified of like closeness would get in the way in sabotage. So we're going to continue to talk about him. But I would just say, don't.

don't leave your husband for him. And I have made it clear I will not leave my husband for another man. If I leave, it's going to be for my own reasons. Well, listen, you have a million reasons already to leave your husband. You can't leave your husband because of financial reasons, correct? Is that the reason why you're saying? And I'm afraid that my kids won't accept my decision. I don't want to lose my kids either.

I don't want anybody to turn it back on me. So I think it's going to, it would have to get to a pretty bad point before I would say, you know what, I'm done. And this is how it's going to be. And if my kids accept it, then fine. If they don't, then I don't, I'll have to deal with that when the time comes. Yeah, it's interesting to me that you would think, A, that your kids wouldn't accept you. Like, you're their mother.

I'm sure they would accept it. They're actually very grown. Okay, they're very grown. A lot of times kids are not dumb-dums. Okay. Like, they see their parents. They see the terrible relationship. They maybe are like, why the fuck hasn't she left them already?

Like maybe they'd be happy for you. I don't necessarily think your kids would throw you to the dust. And even if they were upset at first, they'd get over it. But the other thing that you said that's very interesting is you're like when I would have enough reasons. I mean, it just sounds like you have every reason in the book. It doesn't sound like you love your husband. You're not attracted to your husband.

I mean, what more reason would you need? I don't know. I think if you, listen, let me ask you this. if you won the lottery tomorrow and you didn't just win a million dollars because that won $50 million, a certain amount that would last you for the rest of your life, you could live on your own, never need a fucking person to pay for you. You could buy yourself a house, live your exact same life and be totally fine. Would you leave him?

It's a very good chance. Yes. Yeah. Listen, I think it's about that. I think it's about not being able to financially support yourself. I could see how that could keep someone together. And you could think all these other things, but I think that that plays a big role in it. Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely. Women have a very hard time making enough money to live on their own, especially the way things are in our age now. Yes, and everything is so much more expensive. Yeah, I work full time. And I still don't make enough money. I could never live on my own unless I had a second job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And then like you're going to live the rest of your life after taking care of three kids and doing that,

like now taking on a second job and torturing yourself. You've been living with a guy you don't love and having a subpar marriage for so many years. Why not just do that as opposed to that? I think sometimes something has to be so much worse than change. Like change is very hard. And I think a lot of people don't do the change that they need to do because it's harder than staying. I don't know. Like obviously somehow you and your husband have gotten to a place.

where you're able to cohabitate in your marriage, where there's nothing going on and it's totally not good, but it's not torture or else you... No, it's not. No. We're very much, we're a family unit. That's how everybody sees us. I've got the house. I've got...

I don't have a bad life. I don't. We don't live high on the hog, but we're also not poor. He's a very, very good provider. There's just those other things that aren't there for me anymore. And same for him, I'm sure. If I was talking to him, he doesn't have the ideal situation either, but you both stay for your own reasons. I think a lot of it is.

I think, and he will say he is very much in love with me. He doesn't want anybody else. Really? Yes. But could I ask you like, I mean, because it sounds like you don't really like him, you know, at all. I mean, you're not really attracted to him. You're having a whole other relationship with somebody who you're in love with. You know, I mean, like, what, do you think that he's.

in love with you or do you think that he thinks he's in love with you? Does he act like he's in love with you? Yeah. Yeah. He does. Yeah. He's very, I'm not a very affectionate person. Okay. I mean, I don't just walk up to him and just spontaneously give him a hug or a kiss or anything like that. I, everything that I do is pretty much what's expected of me. Well, is he just happy with status quo having the wife, having that security, having someone to wash his fucking clothes. Guys don't know what to do. They never leave a woman. woman unless they have another woman on the side. I mean, most of the time, if a man leaves a woman, chances are he already has another one waiting in those wings, or they just stay in their miserable

life. That's just the way that it goes. So, okay, so let's go back to Adam. So where do you start banging him? Because he winds up going away for a while, right, after that kiss. But you're still talking every day. Wait, I just want to go back to when your husband finds out. I mean, he's horrified. What did he see in those text messages on Facebook? just messages back and forth, him and I talking and saying sexual innuendos here and there, just different things like that. And then I hadn't been physical with him at that point in time, only that one kiss. Yeah.

But I did make a reference to being physical with somebody else. So then, of course, I had to explain that. Oh, so wait, wait, wait. So you copped to Kevin? I did, but I never gave up his name. Okay, okay, it's okay. But you copped, you said, okay, but I, I haven't been with this. but I was with somebody else.

You came totally clean. Because it was right there. It was right there. I couldn't deny it. I had said it to number two in this message. And my husband saw there was no. I couldn't avoid it. It was right there.

All right. Well, you didn't say that at first. Okay. You sound like you came clean. Oh, okay. So in the messages that he read was also evidence that you had fucked number one. Yes. Oh, my God.

You were so busted. So you and your husband's like crying, begging you to stay. Don't fucking leave. And you decide. to stay now. Did you say to him, I'll give this guy up and did you actually think you were going to? Or did you just fucking say that at that moment? Well, I was, I just really just said that at that moment. And we, number one, and I hadn't been together in a while. Anyway, right. He had a hard, he had a hard time following through with a lot

of stuff. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we stayed friends. We were actually still working together for a while after that. But I never admitted to who it was. He did eventually figure it out, although I still deny it to this day. What do you mean? What did he figure out? He figured out who it was. Oh, he did. He did.

Although, like I said, I still deny it. I will never admit to him who it was. Yeah, okay. Because that was our deal. I'm going to, I'll protect you and you protect me. Okay, so you never out at him, but he wound up guessing the right person. Yes. But he accepted you back.

He stayed with you. He didn't want you to leave. And you said, okay, I won't do it anymore. And so how long after that do you wind up seeing Adam and starting up the full-fledged sex, sexual relationship with him. Okay, so the messages were found in January of 2020 and then COVID hit two months later. Yeah. So the whole world changed.

But him and I, we did, he did block me from messaging for two weeks. And it was devastating to me. So I set up a fake, not a second Facebook account and messaged him and finally got a response from him that way. Why did your husband? Wait, wait. Did he know that you got busted? Did your husband email him or something? Like why did he block him?

No, I told him the day that it happened. I told him via messages. So then, like I said, two weeks later, I opened up a second Facebook account, and I finally got in touch with him and explained to him how devastated I was and how sorry I was and all those kinds of things. So he said, well, we can be friends and we can message. We've got to be super duper careful. I said, I get that.

So we've been super careful. I use a messaging app. I do text him on occasion, but it's typically, I usually message only in the app that we message back and forth. We talk during the day. I am the only person in my office in my part of the office, so I can pretty much do whatever I want to. We do talk a couple times every day on the phone. So then after our initial kiss, it was two years and two months before we saw each other again. Wow.

I just happened to be able to get away for a whole day by myself. And he got done work and we met in the parking lot. And it was just a long conversation and a hug at that point in time. Regrettfully, there was nothing else that happened at that point in time. But we just keep messaging and we talk or we video chat whenever we can, all those happy things. And then a month ago, I was able to get away for a whole day by myself. And we met at a park and we just took a walk. We weren't on the walk five minutes and he took my hand and pulled me over to him and kissed me.

And again, you rocked my world. We were kind of desperately looking for some place to go because we knew what we wanted to do, but wanted to also be a little classy about it. Says the girl that's been fucking guys into the dirty bathroom at work. Only one, no, only one. Oh, my God, classy.

That was mostly him. I mean, there were bathrooms there. He's like, no, we can't do that. So anyways, we went back to his place and spent another couple hours together. And it was like magic. It was unfucking believable. Finally you had sex with him.

We took him a long time to fuck you. That's kind of interesting. Three and a half years of waiting for that to happen. Yes. Yeah, I think that that's a little bit typical with his trauma too. Because sex with guys like that means commitment. And a lot of times a guy that won't fuck a girl, it's like commitment issues. There's a lot of guys that have commitment issues that also won't fuck girls a lot

because that's their way of kind of controlling the disqualming the discipline. and the closeness because sex is intimacy. So it's interesting that he waited that long. It makes sense, though, with his history. So you fucked him that night at his house, right? So now is this point, does he live close to you at that point? Oh, no. He lives two and a half hours away from me.

So you guys drove two hours and you fucked him for hours? A couple hours. And how was it? It was fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. So you, wait, can I ask you a question? Because people sometimes are like, why didn't you ask if they use condoms? You're fucking other guys and you're going home to a husband and you're cheating.

I mean, are you using condoms with these guys? I did not. Okay. Listen, I appreciate your honesty. Yeah. And it's because I trust him. I don't justify it. People are just going to go mental on you.

There's no justification for that. You should use them. It doesn't matter. You shouldn't ever trust anybody, especially if you're cheating because your husband doesn't know and you can bring something on. So there's really no. excuse for it. So I just be like, I did an end of story. Don't try to know. Yeah, I did. The truth is, listen, I'm sorry to say, because a lot of times people will go mental on people for not using condoms. I'm like, you probably don't either. Most people don't use fucking condoms.

Just hypochondriacs like me use fucking condoms. Okay, most people don't fucking care at the end of the day. They get taken up in the heat of passion and they all fuck without condoms. So all you people judging Amanda right now, you probably fucked people too without condoms. People do it all the time, unfortunately. It's sad because it's not cool and you should use fucking condoms but a lot of times people don't. It's more common that they don't. Sorry. It's just the truth.

It is. Yeah. Yep. So anyway, so you didn't use condoms. But the sex was great now. Was that the only time you fuck this guy or no? Yeah, we've only had sex one time. Oh my God. But where's all this lifestyle talk coming from? Are you talking with him about it or

what are you, are you just talking about it? We have. Yes. He knows that I have been very upfront with him that if I were to leave my husband and he and I weren't together, that I would definitely go down the avenue of trying out the lifestyle. It's very intriguing to me. Uh-huh. Interesting. Uh-huh. I love that everybody that I listen to your podcast every day at work.

Oh, I love that. Okay. I do. I put an ear by the end and I listen to it every day at work. The respect and the acceptance among everybody in a lifestyle is just amazing to me. I mean, you don't have to pretend to be anybody different than who you are. Right. I live a life of being a mom and I do what's expected of me and, you know, I do everything the right way. And I'm not unhappy with that. But I have a very, very vanilla life and a very vanilla sex life. And I would love to spice it up. I have fantasies of my own that I would love to live out. He would never share with me. I would love to have a threesome. I would love to be with a black man. Number two is very well endowed. And I, I have a three-sure. And I would never share with me. I would love to have a threesome. I would love to be with a black man. Number two is very well endowed. And I, I loved every fucking second of him being inside of me and his hands being on me. So I would definitely want to be with men that are much larger. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Someone called it ones a dictumatized. You know what I mean? You can't get dictumatized by a really bigger dick because it fills you up like nothing you've ever felt before. And if you get used to that, you're like, oh, fuck, it's hard to go back. Yes. It is absolutely.

Yes. So your threesome is that with a woman or with a man or both? With two men. Okay. And you would see yourself like going to swingers clubs and stuff like that? Like you would be down for that? Yeah, I would. Let me ask you this. Would you ever have, if you were in the perfect world, you eventually leave your husband and you go out and you're a single woman. Would you ever wind up in a monogamous relationship, do you think? I think I would if my sex was satisfying. I don't, my sex life is very unsatisfying. Yes. Yeah. And I think if I was in a relationship, where I was sexually satisfied, I would not, I would be monogamous, yes. And I'm assuming, listen, you were with your husband for a really long time.

I'm assuming there was a time that it was very satisfying. I mean, you were both very monogamous with each other for a very long time, right? Him not you. Well, I would say I thought it was satisfying. Until you've had others. Until I had others and realized what my relationship, what my sex life at home is missing. Yeah, well listen, did you ever, did you and your husband ever try to repair anything? Did you guys ever go to counseling?

Did you ever try date nights? Did you ever try to spice up your sex life? Did you ever try to do anything to fix the fucking issues you have at home? We never went to counseling. We do, I don't know, I guess I shouldn't say we're 100% vanilla. We do use toys. I like anal. Little things like that.

But it's hard when that chemistry is not there. I mentally have to go someplace else to. enjoy it, to really enjoy it. I don't get off very easily, and I know that chemistry is part of the reason, because when I was with the other two, it was not hard to get off at all. Of course. Listen, look at what you're, comparing them to. You've been with this guy for a long time. Like I said, you even said what it was about number one, Kevin. He's kind of like a scumbag married all this time. He was like a selfish guy, but he was complimenting you. He made you feel beautiful. He made you feel hot. You

weren't just a mom anymore. Like he gave you something that you wanted. If you went back to your husband, and I think if you went to therapy, what they would say is try to ignite that kind of stuff. Don't go straight to the sex because you can't just get the spark back with your husband by using toys. It's not about the sex. That's not the reason why you guys don't want to have sex with each other.

It's because of the lack of everything else. Like where are the compliments? Where is the companionship? Where is the intimacy in your relationship? Probably nowhere. I know that you cohabitate and he supposedly loves. you, but like, where is those acts of showing it and stuff? It's probably nowhere to be found in your relationship.

So how could you be attracted to each other? He might be to you because he's a fucking guy and he needs a hole. You know what I mean? I think a woman, it's a lot more in their minds and there's a lot of stuff there. You just need a couple compliments. And you were like banging that guy in a dirty bathroom and your work. And I heard I listened to one of your podcasts earlier recently. And I think it was the guy.

I think it was a man that said that you have to give her compliments. outside of them being sexual and outside of the best. That's what I mean. Yeah, and that's where every little bit of compliment is always a sexual innuendo. Because he doesn't get it. And this is where therapy and people from the outside helping couples navigate these kinds of things really helps. Because people don't know the right tools to get back on track. Like I said, it's not about, it doesn't matter if you spice things up in the bedroom.

The problems are not in the bedroom. The problems are before the fucking bedroom. It's all the stuff that's not happening outside of the bedroom. And your guy's a guy. He doesn't know anything. He thinks I'm just going to tell you your tits look fucking nice in that shirt. And you're going to be horny for him. He doesn't get it.

He needs to be told. Just like you need to be told what he needs and understand what a man's needs are. And if you really focused on that, maybe you could ignite that spark. But without any of that shit and with the complacency that you guys have in the way things are for so long and the fact that you have. and the fact that you have never gone to counseling and you have never tried to change anything. Like, why would it come back? You've put no work into it.

Either one of you. You're both kind of okay with it not being okay. Yeah. Yeah, we're just accepting of how it is. This is how it is. Yeah, this happens all the time. It's so fucking common. It's sad, isn't it?

It's sad. To me it is because I think, wow, you only live once. And I do believe that, people and things can change, right? But it takes work and it's hard. And I'm not saying that your relationship can be saved. I don't know, but you never even tried, right? But if you didn't, if it couldn't, you know, there's a whole world outside there for you. But I get that you have these issues and it's just a hard place to be. This is why I love these kinds of episodes because

I feel like there's so, so many people will be able to relate on a certain level. You're going to get a lot of judgment on YouTube because you're a woman and they're just they're going to look, pick out little things and that's just the way that it goes. But whether you're a woman or a man, everything that you're talking about in this situation is all the fucking reasons why people cheat. It is like cheating 101. And it's very common, you know?

Yes. Yes. Very much. And I don't know. Maybe I may not continue. Maybe I don't know. But for right now, I live life to the fullest. And some days it's just has to be about me.

that day that he and I were together, I was nobody's wife. I was nobody's mom. I was just a woman. I was just a woman. And I haven't been just a woman in a very, very long time. Yeah, listen to what, like when you explain that thing with the Kevin guy, like I said, how did you feel after having, you like, I felt empowered for the first time. Because you were just everything to everybody else, but nothing for you. And the same with number two.

When I was with him, I was. I was on such a high for a week afterwards. It was just amazing. I mean, I drove home and just replaying the whole afternoon in my head over and over and over again. It was just amazing. I mean, the sex was incredible. Yeah, yeah. There is no question.

But the whole day was just amazing to just walk and hold hands and talk and just the field that chemistry and that heat between the two of us was just incredible. Yeah, of course. It's addictive. I don't ever want to go away. But you know, like you said, who's to say that if I did leave my husband and him and I ended up together that that would even still be there? There's nobody, nobody can promise that. No, and you don't have enough of him showing you.

I mean, look, in three years you fucked once. He does still live far away from you, right? How long ago did you guys have this great sex? A month ago. Okay. And now have you had plans to get back together again? Yes, after Thanksgiving, we're going to try and hook up again. Okay.

So yeah, you don't know. Listen, I love being proved wrong. You know, maybe sometimes things do wind up like in the movies and this commitment phobe who's serial commitment phobe guy. You know, winds up changing and falling in love. I don't know. I don't think personally when I hear your relationship with this guy, there's a lot of talking and there's a lot of time there.

But there's not a lot of like in-person time. And that's the stuff that you really have to see like can this stand. the test of time. You know, it's one thing to be messaging through what's app and stuff and from your separate lives and talking and meeting once in a blue moon to fuck for five hours and then you go home. It's another thing to live everyday life with somebody. You don't know who that guy is in that world. So yeah, you ain't leaving anyone anytime soon for this guy. You'd have to be so much more involved with him before you did that because as much as you could say you love him, I think You love how he makes you feel and you love your conversations, but like you don't have that

kind of real love that people have through, you know, every day being with each other. You don't have that real full commitment with him, but I get why it's like perfect for you. Listen, the same way the distance is working for him with you. It's also working for you because it's not like you're going to leave your husband tomorrow anyway. So what other guy could. you be with if he was forcing you and pressuring you to live leave and you still have this guilt about your children and you're afraid of money and maybe he doesn't have enough to help you out like you would it would be too much for you so you're kind of perfect for each other right now would he

be perfect for you if you ever got to the time where you wanted to fucking leave maybe not but who cares there'd be a whole slew of guys out there waiting to get some horny 50 year old woman to bang them all the time and go to a sex club with them you know what I mean like you You can live it up. And I think that's another part of what the swinger life or sex club life, whatever you want to call it, the lifestyle. Yeah. Because I could do that. I could live out my fantasies and have no commitment to anybody.

Yes. And wouldn't that be like what maybe you really deserve at this point in your life coming from where you're at? Absolutely. You've been like you said, somebody else. And you've been a great mom. You raised three kids. You kept this marriage going, this household. And you have a job.

you keep all these things going, how great would it be to live the next 40 years? Like, kind of free with nothing. Why not? Hell yeah. I hope that. If I can live the next 10 years, just doing for me, just being no commitments. And, oh, yeah, that would be absolutely choice. Yeah.

Well, maybe get your, listen, if you can't get counseling for you and your husband, and that might be a lost cause, get like a therapist or somebody for you. Because maybe if you started talking more about, this kind of stuff, even just on a weekly basis, it might start being more of a possibility to make that change in your life because that is very hard. And to me, the saddest thing is that people don't ever make that change ever. You only live once. Life is really short. You're like 10 years. You're salivating, just thinking about that freedom. You could have it. Maybe start going to therapy and see what you could do to change your life, whether that's try to make your relationship

with your husband, get that spark back with him, or eventually when the kids are out of the house, you figure out a way that you could leave? I don't know. But how old is the last kid about to leave your house? She will graduate in 25. Okay. So you got a year. What happens after that? It'll be very interesting to see where you're at. He goes to college, that kind of thing. So we'll see where we're at then. Yeah. My last question to you is, do you think that your husband's cheating on you at this point? No. No, not at all. No. No, he very much only wants to be him and I, and that's it.

And he, and you're still fucking him like once a week? Yep. Yeah. Okay. All right. There you go. Well, I'm going to change your voice, Amanda, so no one knows who the fuck you are. Okay.

And your husband could live his happy life with the woman. He loves having no idea. I mean, listen, he did find out you cheated. Did he become like super distrustful afterwards or was he able to get past it quickly? he's he's a very jealous person yeah he did not get past it quickly and sometimes i think he still had suspicions once in a while but not like he used to yeah yeah yeah yeah of course so but he you know and he wants to do everything together he has a hard time understanding that i need time for just me i deal with a lot of people on a regular basis at my job i have a all lot of people i work in the

medical field so i deal with people all the time yeah yeah yeah so even and we live in a small area even when I go somewhere, people stop me and talk to me. And he doesn't understand that I need time to just go where nobody knows me. And you don't understand that he just needs a little bit time where he just needs you to. Like I said, I think both things exist at the same time. I don't necessarily think he's wrong for feeling that way as a woman who belongs to so many people that he should just be on the back burner or not care. That's what people are going to say. So what the fuck should he do?

But also what the fuck should you do? He's not. But he's not on the back burner. or he is front and foremost right along with my children. They all get taken care of. I do things with him. I do things with the kid. He just wants too much time.

He wants every ounce of my time and doesn't want to understand that I need time for just myself, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're spread thin. If I just want to take a day for myself, I shouldn't have to give you a reason. I need a day to myself. End of story. It shouldn't have to come down to being questioned.

Right, right. Yeah. Well, listen, this is a story that is so common. and so many people are going to be able to relate to it. I love that you called in to tell this story because I like stories like this because they're very real. I love your honesty. And I think it's important to show these stories because I think people could learn from

them, you know, for better or for worse. It is what it is. I appreciate you having me. I never thought that my story would be worthy of your podcast. So I appreciate it. I love it. Listen, I always say, I mean, the truth is I have a podcast about this like crazy sex stuff because I didn't know where to find people for my call and advice show, and I went on to Craigslist,

because it was free in the personal section. That's the only reason why it became about this crazy sex stuff. For me, I could talk to people like you about this kind of stuff, commitment issues, addiction. Like, I would love to be talking about everything. My audience just comes for this really salacious stuff, and I'm so good at it because I'm very non-judgmentally. But I love stuff like this too. I love stuff that anyone could relate to. And this is definitely it. I never turned down a cheating story because I think that it's very common. and this is a big issue out there. Whether it's a man or woman, I think your story, people will be able to really to.

And that's important. And people are going to love it for those reasons. So thank you. I'm so glad that you emailed me to be on. I love this story. Thank you so much for calling in. I love it. I loved your episode.

Now, I have a Patreon where people send like picks of themselves. Would you want to be into that? Would you be into that? I am not going to post any pictures on there. I have the mom bought going on. So no, no problem. But listen, I'll give you free access. though, but I'll give you free access to my Discord.

You don't need to post anything on there. You could just go in and talk to my listeners. There's over 16, 17,700 people on there. If you want to go on, I will give you free access, and you could say I'm Amanda. People will question you about stuff, but you don't need to post anything if you don't want to. That's just the thing that you would have access to to go and talk as a guest of my show. I will send you a link to that. But thank you so much for calling it.

It's such a fascinating story. Good luck with everything. Keep me posted. Thank you for listening, Kathy. Yeah, keep me posted of anything. big happens, okay? I will do that. All right. Awesome. This is great. Thanks, Amanda. Thank you. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and

e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17. different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story.

There's a gang-being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters.

It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book.

It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book.

There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord.

It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. It's the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

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