Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 725 - BONUS EPISODE: Fact of Fiction - Hunter and his Wife Hook Up with Other People?

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Hunter and his wife hook up with other people and he called in to talk all about it. When did they decide to open up their marriage? Why did they decide to open it up? And, who have they hooked up with so far? Tune in to hear all the details including how he stole his wife from his best friend early on, the couple swap they had early on and what exactly went down, how he found out she was cheating on him with her boss and how he reacted, how he was also cheating on her and who he was cheating on her with, the threesome he had with his wife and the woman he was cheating on her with and what exactly went down, how they both decided to come clean about their cheating anyhow they were able to get passed it, how and why they opened up their marriage, the first girl they both hooked up with, the guy she met and why that never went anywhere, the couple he met and hooked up with and what went down between them, how and why they’re now looking for a close connection with another person and how they want that to be set up plus a whole lot more. **Do you think this episode is FACT or FICTION??? You can let me know on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/c/StrictlyAnonymouspodcast **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and my confessions hotline up into this point, so there's over 100 of them. You also see anonymous, sexy picks of all the girls that called into my show. you also get Q&A's. You also get all of my episodes early and ad-free, and you get access to my private Discord where people are getting X-rated, super naughty, hooking up with each other, showing all kinds of things over there. Okay, I don't get involved in my Discord, but it is a community of my listeners over there, having effing fun. Now, you could only get to my Discordort through going through my Patreon, but it's only $5 a month. It's Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. That's Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. So today, factor fiction episode. I'm going to do this like once a month, I think. I got a couple of them, okay?

This one I think is not going to be like the first one. I did a factor fiction recently. And I was able at the end of the call to prove whether this person was fact or fiction because there was actually proof that needed to be sent to me and whether it was sent or not was revealed at the end. If you haven't listened to that episode, it was 685 Henry. It was factor fiction. and what does Henry have a hot wife?

So that one was more obvious. You could go listen to that. It's super interesting. If you like a mystery like I do, I think you'll find it entertaining. And you can make your own assumptions, whether it was true or not. People enjoyed it.

I'm doing it again. This one, I think, like I said, is not cut and dry. There's no proof. At the end of this call, it's going to be, is it fact or fiction? It's going to be whatever you believe.

I personally think it's fiction. Is that not? not fact, right? Not the truth. I thought it was like, I don't know. There's certain parts of this call that I was like laughing, but I didn't allow myself to laugh on air. Like I had to take the mic away from my mouth

because there was just some stuff that I was like, oh my God, this is so dumb. But I don't think that everybody will feel the way I am. I love, okay, nothing more than a good debate. I do love a mystery. This is a mystery. This is an added layer. to the story. The story's interesting, okay, but on top of this, and I'll get to that in a second,

but on top of this interesting story, there is this whole, do you fucking believe him or not? I think I'm going to get shit about this one, but I can handle it because I do like a good debate. I think some people are going to be like, Kathy, you're fucked up. This guy was totally telling the truth and this is why. I personally was like, uh-uh, I don't believe this story, but I think it's going to be a big split down the middle, I think 50-50. I think 50. I think. I I am so curious what everyone else is going to think. YouTube is always a great place for people to comment on the episodes. Go over there.

But don't feel bad when I fucking respond back to you and debate back. I mean, sometimes like people say rude things to me on YouTube and then I respond back and they're like, oh, you can't handle it. No, I can handle it. You can't. If you're going to say something to me, I have the right to say something back. That's called a fucking debate and I'm down for it. I actually love it.

So go over to YouTube. Say what you want. This is a story about a guy named Hunter. It starts off with this whole story about how he met his wife. It was like his friend's wife. First it was his girlfriend. He was into her. And then it turned out it was his wife.

And then he stole her from him. And they got together. They immediately started like couple swapping with a couple that they were friends with. And then eventually he tells the story that they drifted apart. And he started cheating on her with some women. One in particular. That was like an old friend of his. and he found out she was cheating on her with her boss.

And then he wound up bringing the girl in that he was cheating on her with to have a threesome with them. And they had a threesome. His girl's very into girls. So they had a threesome with her. And then that all ended. And then they had a come to Jesus moment many years later and decided to really open up their marriage.

Stuff goes down about the cheating about him with women and her with the boss. We talk about that. But where they're at now is where we end with them opening up the relationship, really looking for a third person to enter their relationship. They're looking for a thruple. They've had some threesomes. He fucked a couple. She's looking for girls. She's really into girls.

And he goes into all the details. So like I said, there's a lot to this episode. There's the story, which is super interesting. And then there's the mystery. I'm curious what you think. Fact or fiction. Do you believe him? I didn't.

go to YouTube if you want to comment there or sign up for my Patreon. My Discord channel is a place where you could talk to all the people that are on there. It's over a thousand people in my Discord. Plus, Hunter's going to go on there. I'm going to give him a free link to go on there. So if you want to talk to him there, go there or go to YouTube. My YouTube channel, make sure to subscribe while you're there and you could comment. Let me know what you think.

I'm curious. Okay. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Hunter. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for calling in, Hunter.

Now, listen, when we were trying to figure out a fake name for you, I was like, let's call you Hunter, because that sounds like a guy that would steal his friend's fucking girlfriend and then marry her. That's what you did. Your first wife was like your friend's girl or something like that? I don't know. Like, you tell me the story. And then, and then you and your wife a little bit further down the line, you and your wife have a three. some with a girl you were cheating on her with and now you guys have an open relationship. I mean, you have a lot going on here, correct?

Yeah, and when you say it like that, it almost sounds really bad. Sounds salacious. Well, that's the kind of shit I have on my show. That's why you're calling in. Yeah, yeah. So, yes, I did, I stole my wife from a really good friend at the time. How did that happen? Ben. Well, so when I was 18 or 19, I don't even remember at this point, I was working at a store and another guy started and him and I just hit it off. And we were really good friends instantly. And one day I was standing at the front counter and I was like right out of the movie. It was cliche. The sun was setting so it was hard to see. His wife walks in.

Yeah, his girlfriend at the time. She walks in and she is just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. And I was just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. And I was just. just, oh, I'm very interested in her. I need to get to know her. And then I quickly realized, oh, she's with a friend and she's quickly off limits. Yeah. So we, we actually just started hanging out and I had a girlfriend at the time. And so the four of us kind of hung out and girlfriends came and went for me, but they stayed consistent. Fast forward a little bit to they get married. And he actually asked me to be his best man. And I said, yeah, because at that point, I was still trying to be pretty upstanding. And during the wedding, he goes, hey, can you go deliver a message to my future wife? And I said, yeah, sure, I can I can go do that. So he gives me some stupid message to

go tell her he was way in over his head with her. He was not up to her caliber at all. So I went to her and gave him or gave her the message. What was a message? I don't even remember. It was so stupid and horrible. It was just something along the lines of, oh, I'm so excited and I'm happy for you to be my wife. Something that no guy would ever say. Okay, I really hope I believe your story, but that sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No guy's sending a message to his wife. Like I'm so excited to marry him at her wedding. Oh, like I said, this guy was way over his head. Okay. Go on. So anyway, I gave her the message and she goes, is that it? And I said, no. And then I kissed her on the cheek. And she kind of stopped and looked at me and she had all her

bridesmaids there and they were kind of like, what the hell was that? And she, under her, under, you know, her voice, she said, was that from him? And I said, no. And she kind of looked at me really funny and I just got up and walked out because I realized I had shot my shot at her wedding and this was a very dumb move. And the wedding went on and all that. Fast forward a little bit later. and they actually had an apartment together, and they couldn't afford it. And I was having trouble with my roommate, and we were all really good friends. So they were like, well, why don't you just move in with us? It'll save you money.

It'll save us. And that was kind of the beginning of the end. So I moved in there, and within two months, she had kind of confided in me that they were having issues and that she wasn't happy and that she had hoped that when they got married, it would kind of kick him in the year. and he would do what he was supposed to do and help take care of her. And it just was not going to happen. She was working. He wasn't. He was aspiring to be some artist of some kind.

Apparently, I must have looked pretty good because I was actually working a job and doing right and progressing my future. So what do you guys start cheating? Well, to be fair, we never cheated while they were married or together. She divorced him. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. So you didn't really steal her. Well, I didn't. I didn't because she was wanting to work it out with him and I said, hey, that time I kissed you on the cheek at your wedding, that was my letting you go,

but at the same time showing you that I had feelings for you. And so anyways, I shot my shot with her after they divorced. And we got together and we started dating and did all that. And so it really kind of gets interesting here. I had a birthday party where we had a bunch of people that were supposed to come over and everybody kind of bailed at the last minute except for my best friend and his at the time girlfriend. And we just proceeded to get trashed. I mean, I don't even remember all of it. I remember at one point, I don't know how we all got naked, but we were naked and he was having sex with his girlfriend. I was having sex with my girlfriend, wife, on the same bed at the same time. And he kind of tapped me on the shoulder.

and he said, hey, can I, can I give it a go? And I looked at my girlfriend and I said, are you okay with this? And she said, yeah. And I said, okay. So I backed off and he was just giving it to her. His girlfriend was kind of laying there watching and I was kind of standing back there watching a little bit. And he kind of pointed at his girlfriend and said, hey, go ahead.

And so her and I started having sex. And we had just done our first swap, I guess, is the term that would be used for it. And this was really surprising because everything I had known about my girlfriend, my wife now, was she was such a good Christian girl. And this was just blowing me away. I could not believe that she was not only okay with having sex with other people in the room with us, but swapping like that. And I had always been such a jealous person. So it was just kind of a weird, cathartic experience where I was. was like, is this really happening? And it continued on to the next morning where, because they had

stayed over and all that. We got up and we went to breakfast and we were kind of joking around about it. And I really seriously stopped everybody and I said, hey, the number one rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club. So that became our inside joke for the four of us as we continued on in our, in our friendship was you don't talk about fight club. So anytime we, we all hooked up with each other was, yeah that were you guys like in your 20s in this time yeah i was probably 22 23 and so my wife would have been 20 21 well so what did she marry your friend when she was 16 i mean come on so she's 21 by the time she marries you how old was she when she married your friend she was 18 okay okay go on yeah so they got married at 18 had a whole relationship and then they got divorced by the time she

was how old, 20? One year? Their marriage lasted a year? They were only married three months. Three months? Three months. So you just live with them for three months? About two months. They got the apartment and quickly realized they could not afford to do anything,

let alone hold the apartment. And so they needed roommates. Okay. You live with them for two months. And then she divorced him the minute you moved in, and then you guys started dating and now you're already sleeping with other couples. Yeah, that was a good year and a half, two years after they had split up that we had, we had experienced that with our friends.

Okay. Go on. Yeah. And so that just kind of fizzled out after that, not her and I, but the whole swinging thing. It was just kind of that thing that was never really addressed. Well, how many times did you swap with that couple? Oh. in all too many times to count now. But at the time, it was just such a weird one-off thing.

Everybody was kind of like, is this okay? Are we, what just happened? And we just all kind of agreed that the best course of action was to not talk about it any further. But you kept doing it. Eventually, yeah. Yeah, we had an annual trip that we would take to an Octoberfest. And sometimes it would happen.

Sometimes it wouldn't. But we all shared. one big room and of course obviously liquid courage is involved and everybody everybody just does what they kind of do at one point we had 20 people in a in a six-person hot tub and they were hits out and dick's flopping around and it was it you go there and it's kind of your release it's your escape nobody really knows who you are nobody knows anything you're there with your friends and it's just kind of whatever happens happens is what we had for a little while there. Okay.

At October 5th, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it continued on. We would, I mean, yeah, we've had threesomes and foursums with those two. Well, what do you mean threesomes and foursums? There's a couple. What do you mean threysms and foursums with them? Sometimes someone wasn't there?

Yeah, sometimes they weren't there. they just weren't really interested in participating. So now who would hook up with who? Would your wife hook up with the girl too, or is it just swapping? No, she would hook up with her too. Okay, so your wife started hooking up with girls, that friend of yours. Yeah, but at that point she hadn't even come out as bisexual at that point. He was just, I thought, oh, she's just going with the flow.

She's doing whatever she thinks I want to see or experience. And, hey, I'm okay with that. But it wasn't until almost 10 years. later that she actually came out to me and says, no, I'm, I'm actually more, I would say I'm almost lesbian at this point, but I am obviously married and I love you and I'm attracted to you, but she's not, she doesn't really like other men for the most part. She's very, very selective over the other men. And I, to this day, I still don't even know what her qualifications are for another person to join in or another man to join in.

But we have had male, female, male experiences. But just with my friend there, we haven't actually had another stranger male if you want to call it that join in. Okay. Even though you've had these October Fest where there was like 30 people in a hot tub naked, she was just filling around with that one guy? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they were in the hot tub and all that.

But it was kind of out in public. Like there was a small little privacy fence, but the hotel we were at was right on the street. And there were people walking by. And you couldn't get too crazy. We had actually gotten yelled at a couple of times by the management of the hotel to not have that many people in the hot, have number one. But number two, don't be doing anything that's going to get you in trouble or get us in trouble. So we had to kind of hone it down.

Okay. So go on. Yeah. So it continued on. like that and we'd had off experiences but her and i just kind of drifted apart we'd been married at that point for oh probably five years and we just kind of hit that slump we got up we went to work monday and came home and didn't really talk and started drifting and this is the part i do i know but i know where you're going to go because you start cheating on her but before we get there whatever

happened to the guy that was married to her first? Oh, he kind of bummed around for a little bit. He went back to live with his parents and I lost total contact with him for obvious reasons. But did other friends of yours like think it was fucked up? I mean, because most of the time guys roll in packs. They were like dogs? Did you have a group of friends where your friends like, what the fuck or were there is like no big deal? I mean, did a lot of people side with him? Was it a big thing? I mean, here it is. This guy loses his wife after three months of marriage and then you're, you swoop her up. Yeah, it was about a 50-50. Half of them just never talked to me again. And I was like, hey, that's kind of a fair assessment. And the other half kind of sided with me and

we're like, the guy's kind of a scumbag and he was kind of using her. And he was using her. The same guy that was sending her sweet notes at the thing, but that was over his head. But he was using her. I mean, you painted a picture that he was like beneath her before and now he was a scumback? Well, he used the term scumbag loosely, I guess. Well, scumbag and loser, I think of that as two different guys. You made him sound like a guy that was out of her league, like beneath her, sending her a note. I don't know. Then he's now he's a scumbag. Those are two different guys, I think, typically. Okay. I suppose if you put it that way. I mean, he wasn't a good guy to her? I mean, he didn't cheat on her that I know of.

So what made him a scumbach? He did not work. He refused to actually go get a job. The jobs he would have, he would hold for a month or two, and then he would either flyer or get away. We're talking about a 19-year-old guy, okay? This is like when we're talking about your guy's drama and your real age job, we're talking about teenagers. Okay, that's normal stuff. A guy can't keep a job for a fucking month.

He's 19. I mean, you can't judge him. He could be a CEO of a company at this point so many years later. I mean, come on. It's 19 years old. So anyway, I just was wondering if he, like, stopped being friends with you or what happened, because that's pretty, that's kind of, like, dramatic that he was married to somebody. And then his really great friend, the best man in his wedding, took his wife.

All right. So now your guys are in a slum five years into it. Sex has gone out the window. She hasn't told you she's more into women than men, but you guys are not really getting along. No, not at all. And how we stay together is beyond me, just your will not to, not. to end up like her first marriage, I guess. But yeah, I felt really down to myself. I had actually lost my job at that point. I had a really good job at the time and just it ceased to be. And so I was

already down on myself and she was, we were facing financial problems at that point. Not, not anything crazy, but enough to be stressed out. And yeah, she, she ended up cheating on me with her boss at the time. I had kind of known, but not enough to really do anything about it. And at that point, I'd been talking to other women. And so it was that, well, if I'm doing it, she can do it. I really have no leg to stand on. How did you find out she was with her boss? I had, she had shown something on her phone to me, and I went, oh, I want to show this to my friend.

And I was taking it over to him to go show it. And a text message came through that said, take care of those big titties. And I saw it and I read it. She heard the bing of the notification, and she demanded her phone back. She said, give me my phone back. Give it to me right now. And so I handed it to her, but I'd already read the message. But we were over at a friend's house.

So I wasn't going to make a big deal about it there. And so I had a good four or five hours to kind of cool down and let it go over my head. And I just never even brought it up to her. How come? No good excuse. I just never brought it up to her. And so it continued on. Why didn't you ever bring it up to her?

obviously because I felt guilty about my own misbehaviors with other women. Well, who were you cheating on her with? I had actually found an old friend from high school that had reached out to me through Facebook, all that. And we started talking. It started out innocent, but it quickly evolved into something not innocent at all. I had actually met up with her and went down on her and let her return the favor to me. And then it progressed from there because it was that, whole mindset of oh it's not cheating if it's just oral and it devolved from there into full-on sex and at the time I didn't understand it she this new girl wanted a relationship with me and

I was either not caring or unable to see that and in retrospect she was she was doing everything she could to try to damage my my marriage with my wife in what sense I'm sorry what was that how was she trying to ruin your marriage Oh, she would, the biggest one that I can give you an example of is she said, well, let's try to get your wife into a threesome. And I thought, well, heck, yeah, I can have you and my wife. Heck, yeah, this sounds awesome. And at this point, I'd known that she was open to the idea of threesomes and more sums, but not necessarily into women. And so I came to her one night and I said, hey, you know.

Who wasn't into women? My wife. I thought at the time she wasn't. You told me before she was only into women and not really into men, but now you were back to she's not into women. Well, that's retrospect. I realize now that she is into women and less into men. Okay. At the time, I didn't know it.

Okay. Go on. But yeah, so she, I went to my wife one day and I said, hey, you remember all the fight clubs we had back in the day? And she kind of smiled and said, yeah, I. remember them. I said, well, what if, what if you did that? No, no, no, I need other examples. You literally said the sentence, this woman was trying to ruin my marriage. Now, you're trying to tell me that a threesome that you're going to hook up here. And I know that it happens because you, this was a part of your email, that this is a way she tried to ruin your marriage. But can you just

give me other couple of ways because she's trying to ruin your marriage besides this threesome that we're going to hear about. Was there anything else she was doing to try and ruin your marriage? Yeah. So at the time, I didn't realize it, but now it's very clear. She would send me text when she knew I wasn't able to get a text. She knew the hours of operations, if you may, of when it's safe to call or text or whatever. And she would break those. She would send a text message at 6 o'clock when she knows I'm at home with my wife and saying things like, oh, hey, I got a quick question for you about this. or she would just send a picture of her naked or scantily clad and stuff like that.

She would also call and she would say, is your wife there before I could even say hello? So stuff like that, that at the time I'm like, oh, she's just doing her thing. She's not doing anything malicious. But it was after that threesome that I went, oh, where I really opened up. and I went, oh, I understand now what you're trying to do. Okay, so go back to the threesome. Yeah, so I told my wife, I would like to try this again. And she was actually hugely receptive.

She was like, absolutely, let's do this. And so I was like, oh, okay. But at this point, you never, though also never mentioned her boss. You never cared about that? That never came up. At that point, I was still so blindfully bliss to it. I mean, I knew deep down something was going on. Didn't you see the text message at this point?

I did. Yep. So how were you blindfully bliss to it? I don't understand. You saw an actual text message from her boss saying, let me see your tits. So how are you blind to it? You knew, but you just didn't say anything because you were cheating, correct? Exactly.

I was getting mine elsewhere. So you didn't care? In retrospect, I didn't care because that's the only explanation I have. during it, it just literally got pushed out of my brain to the point of I didn't even think about it. It still frustrated me. Don't get me wrong. I was still like, oh, I can't believe she's doing this, but it's that whole, well, I'm doing it too. So. Okay. So this girl, you tell your wife, she's very receptive. Now let's get back to a threesome. Yeah. So we put a Craigslist ad up. Nothing specific, no pictures, no nothing, just saying, hey, we're a couple in our 20s and we're looking

to spice it up with another gal something something stupid and lame like that that i knew we wouldn't get much response to because i wanted be one response from this other gal that i was cheating on her with and so i sent i sent her the link and she responded instantly and sent some pictures and my wife went okay yeah yeah yeah that's we could do that so they they texts back and forth and i was nervous the whole time because i'm like oh if this if this gal decides to just tell her the truth. I am absolutely boned and not in a good way. I am big trouble. And she never once broke the secret. And they talked enough. And finally they were like, well, let's make this happen. Let's meet up. So we drove out, picked her up, took her out for

drinks and dinner. And they danced and had a good time. And I kind of participated as much as I could. I was very, I was not very confident in myself at that time. Let's put it that way. And so they had a great time and they came back to our house and or she came back to our house. And my wife just said, our only rule is you don't get to kiss him. I can kiss him. You can kiss me. I can kiss you, but not, you're not going to kiss him. And this is another one of those where she clearly tried to cause problems because shortly they're into it. she kept trying to kiss me the new gal that way she kept trying to kiss me and i kept having to push her back and say no the rules blah blah but the second my wife left the room she was right there in my face saying no you're going to kiss me right now and i did and she she made it very loud and vocal that it was a kiss and i don't to this day i don't know if my wife knows or not but there was a kiss there and then I broke that trust there. I mean, I was breaking her trust in so many different ways.

Well, wasn't your wife in the middle of the threesome? She didn't see you kiss her? She went into the bathroom really quick. Okay, so this girl's not doing it right in front of your wife. She did it when your wife was in the bathroom. She was also, you guys were fucking behind your wife's back all the time. So how is she breaking any kind of trust with you? I mean, give me a fucking break.

No. That's not her trying to fuck you over. She was trying to fuck you over. and get you in trouble with your wife, she would have kissed you when your wife was there. She waited until she went to the bathroom. She was being sneaky, just like you had always guys been sneaky. She didn't do it in front of your wife.

No, and I got to give her credit for that. But shortly thereafter, her and I were texting, and she said, well, how are you and your wife? And I said, well, we're doing okay. You know, why do you ask? And she goes, well, because we had a threesome, and she should be mad at you right now. And I said, why would she be mad at me?

she agreed to go into this together. If anything, it's almost made us stronger at this point. And she got mad at me and said, that's not what was supposed to happen. You guys were supposed to fight. You guys were supposed to break up. And I was supposed to get my chance with you. And, yeah, I was all of 25 or 26 at the time. And I was like, well, hell, I don't know what to do about this.

I don't know how to respond. And we ended up breaking off to the other girl and I, we broke it off because number one, I was scared shitless that she was going to Adelon me and it actually it made me realize how much I actually loved my wife and how unfair it was I was being to her and how just shitty I was treating her. I was I was a human being I didn't like and I was treating the one person that was always there always fighting in my corner just like trash. Well, you told me you guys, drifted apart and she was banging her boss? Yeah. Yep.

I mean, didn't, so when you're feeling guilty that you're doing it and you're, you end it, do you ever say anything about the boss thing or no? Years later. Okay. Years later. We were, it was probably about three or four years later and I don't know what happened. I just kind of snapped one day.

I was sitting on the couch and I just broke down and started crying. And my wife was like, what is up with you? And I said, I know about you and your boss. And she went, but I said, I know about you and in certain name here. I know you guys have been poking up for the last, I don't even know how long it was at that point, five, six years at that point. And she went really quiet and kind of hung her head and said, yeah, yeah, it happened. And I said, I haven't been innocent either. I've been doing the same thing to you too.

And she kind of nodded her head and she said, yeah, I kind of figured as much. And it unfortunately didn't stop. She kept being with him. How do you know? I found a notebook that she had been hiding at her work. She brought it home one day for whatever reason. And I saw it and I was like, oh, that's weird. And I opened up the book and it was a diary of every time that they had met up and what they had done.

And yeah, it was, it was weird to find that because it was just a log of everything that she had done with him. I thought that was very, very weird. I never would have done anything like that, especially if I was trying not get caught. It just seems silly to write it down. but that is her personality. She logs everything. Well, what happened? Did you confront her about that diary?

I did. Yep. She came home one day and, well, she came home that day and I had it sitting on the coffee table. And I said, I read your journal there. And she kind of hung her head and she said, well, it's not happening anymore. And I said, well, that's funny because the book says that it happened like the other day. And she kind of said, well, we ended it. today, honestly. And I say, well, I have a really hard time believing that it just seems a little

coincidental that the day I find it is the day you end it. And we, we started seeking couples bouncing at that point. And it did a lot of good for us. It helped us out a lot. And it allowed us to kind of open up and air all the grievances that have happened. And it brought us close together, because we realized at that point that we needed to break the cycle. We needed to get out of it and not allow ourselves to fall back into it. So we started a plan to leave because we were living on the West Coast at that point, to leave and to go move to a completely different area of the country to just get away from all the people and the distractions. And we actually, we sold our house.

We sold everything in it. We bought a fifth wheel RV. and we just hit the road and started touring the country, going state to state to state with our kids and our dog, just trying to figure out where we wanted to live. And we ended up settling on the Midwest. We moved into a very, very small town here in the Midwest and just instantly fell in love with the life change.

And that kind of led to me finding your show, actually. I had a really long road trip from the Midwest up to Maine, the tip of Maine, and I had many, many hours to, because I was driving, I had many, many hours to listen. And I found your podcast. And I just started listening. And I'm like, oh, my God, these people's stories are amazing. And the freedom that they get when they're actually open and honest with their spouse is just amazing. I wonder if I could ever get that. And so I spent my week doing my thing. And when I came home, I told my wife, I was like, we need to have a down conversation. We need to talk about this because I think that there's still unerred laundry here that we need to talk about. Let me ask you a quick question before you have this big conversation with her. Back in the day when you accused her about banging the boss and she had

copped to it and you said I was cheating to, did you ever, I mean, you would only cheated with that one woman or more? No, there was more, but they're, they're, unconsequential, there. There, They're not, there's not a good story there. But did you tell her about any of them? Did she ask any questions? Or you just said, yeah, I cheated too. And she was like, okay. No, I admitted to everything.

So you told her that girl that we had a threesome with, that girl I was banging her at the time? I told her that I previously knew her. Yeah. I said, it had never come out exactly in those words. I was banging her before you, but it was, yes, I did know her before. So when you were copping and cheating on her, you copped to the girl that you brought home for the threesome, you said that was someone that was a part of that. Yeah, yeah.

And what did she say? She was devastated. She was so mad at me. To the day, I don't know why she continued to even talk to me, well, and stay with me other than she just must love me to death. She was mad. She was hurt. She felt betrayed. It definitely set us back on our road to where we are now.

But it was something that had to get out. If that came out later, oh, my God, you know. Well, it did come out later. It came out years later, you said, when you talked to her about the boss. I mean, you never copped to it before. Supposedly you ended that a long time before you brought up the boss thing. Yeah. So it's not like you confessed right away.

You confessed years later, too. I held it in, yeah. But I mean, like now, because we're talking, this has been, oh, 11, 12 years now since since that first experience with the other gal. Okay. So now you go to therapy and it starts to bring you guys back together. You move. And now what starts to happen?

Because I know you're in an open relationship now. Yeah. So I told her about your podcast and she'd listened to a couple episodes and she kind of was, okay, yeah, some of this stuff makes sense. Some of it, I don't know, I don't know, but a lot of it. Yeah, okay. And I had told her. I was like, hey, did you ever stop to think that maybe were.

we're swingers and she kind of well no we're not and I said well think about it we enjoy bringing someone else into our bedroom with us we enjoy meeting new people and flirting and talking and having sex with them that kind of makes us swingers and she kind of begrudgingly nodded her head and it was about a week after that she goes maybe we should maybe we should see what's around here maybe we should see what's what's available in the Midwest here and so we We hit all the normal places. We, all the apps and the websites and hinder and all that stuff. And started looking for couples, single females.

She eventually said, yeah, let's look for males. Maybe there will be another male that will strike my fancy. And so we were pretty open. We were casting a big net. And on her birthday, we had actually- Wait, what did she say she was looking for? She was open to anything. anything at that point.

Okay. She was like, oh, right, let's look for couples. Let's look for single females. Let's look for single males. Okay.

And yeah, on her birthday night, a girl had messaged earlier in the week on one of the apps and we were kind of talking. All three of us were talking. And I said, oh, hey, it's my wife's birthday today.

She said, oh, happy birthday. I should, I should come over and bring you a present. And I'm like, heck yeah, you should.

So she ends up coming over. And we hung out in the kitchen, had a couple drinks and went into the bedroom and we all took turns kind of body painting each other and kind of turning up the sensualness of the experience. And yeah, we had a great experience with her. Unfortunately, at that point, we had decided, well, we're kind of looking. Maybe we'll add a third to our relationship, a continual third person to hang. out with and bring into the bedroom and all that, I guess the terms of thruple. And so we had kind of approached this girl and she was considerably younger. You know, we're in our mid-30s now and she was in her mid-20s.

And so we kind of said, hey, you know, this is what we're leaning to. We're open to the idea of it being more casual. But in the end, we would like to actually form a triad or whatever you want to call it. And she at first was, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds really good. and then quickly kind of devolved down and I don't think I'm quite looking for that. And unfortunately, she has since disappeared. She just stopped talking to us on through anything. And we were like, okay, I wish you had said goodbye or told us what we did wrong to make it.

You want to leave, but we understand if you're not into it, you're not into it. So we've continued on and met some interesting people, but we're yet to find another person to actually bring back and try to meet on a personal level. What does that mean a personal level? Backs. Not from behind the screen. No, no, but I mean like how close do you want to get with this third person? In an ideal world, it would be another person to add to our relationship.

It would be a third number. Emotionally? Emotionally, physically, all of it. And your wife wants that too. You both want another person to fall in love with. Yes. Yes. Interesting. And that's actually, yeah, and that's, recently, that's when I found out that my wife was leaning more towards women than she does men. Because at first when we first started looking, it was, oh, I'm open to couples, male,

female, anything. And then as we'd go through the app and we'd start seeing different people, she'd go, not him, not him, oh, her, her, yeah. And we started realizing that maybe for every hundred guys that would come through the app, maybe one of them would get the thumbs up, but the vast majority were not. But the women that would come through, it was about 50-50.

Yeah, well, that's because there's way more pretty girls and there are hot guys. Sorry to say, I don't know that that means she's a lesbian. Or maybe then I'm a lesbian too because I find it like, if you're looking at girls, if you put a lineup of 10 women and 10 men

and you're like, how many people do you think are hot in this lineup? You'd find more hot people in the chick lineup than you do the guy lineup. The guys don't have all the things that girls could do to make themselves look better. They're just more pretty girls and hot girls than there are good-looking hot guys. Yeah, I guess empirical data suggests that's true, yes. Well, that's just my data. So I'm sure I'll get people saying I'm fucked up and wrong.

Unless you're gay and then all those guys are fucking hot, okay? but I don't know I don't know I just don't I just think that that I mean did she besides being more attracted to more of those females I mean did she actually put it together

though that it was more than just that she found them attracted that she felt like she was more into women did she bring that up yes yeah so what did she say she'd actually I'd given her kind of freedom I said hey if you want to go experience

something on your own absolutely we're on this spiritual journey if that's what you want to call it to figure out what what who we are in this world you should be free to do whatever you want for the most part you know if if i'm uncomfortable i'll vocalize it and i hope you would respect that i'm uncomfortable about this but at the end of the day you need to be free to do what you want and so she'd actually ventured out and met a little bit older guy that's that's more i've learned that that's more of her style of a man is the older type and so they were talking and so they were talking about and it kind of unlocked a little bit of, oh, I kind of enjoy this jealousy that I'm feeling of you talking to someone else, and I'm not involved. I'm reading all the text messages and everything after the fact.

You were into it. It unlocked your feelings. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, and that was a weird one. I was like, wow, I used to be one of the most jealous people in the world, and now here I am. I'm reading messages between my wife and another person that I don't know, and it's kind of turning me on. Oh, weird.

Okay, let's roll with it. it fizzled out. She in the end was like, I'm just, I'm not feeling it. I think I'm more into women. And I said, okay, that's great. You tried it. You experienced it. And you said, no, I get it.

She never went physical with them. It stayed completely through text messages and phone calls and all that. Now, at this time, while she's meeting other people and going out there and she's free to do that, are you seeing other women? Yes. Yes and no. I was given the same freedom that she was. I was told, go ahead and find somebody, you know, if there's something you want to do, go do it, just be safe about it. And so I had gone out on one of

the apps and I had found a couple. And I was like, okay, well, yeah, let's, what would it be like to hook up with another guy's wife? If I'm feeling that slight jealousy and I'm kind of liking it a little bit, this must be a real thing. And why not experience it with someone else? And So I did meet a couple, and I grew up out to meet him, and we had dinner and talked. And, yeah, we ended up having a male, female, male threesome, this guy and his wife. And? Yeah, it was, it wasn't the same. It wasn't that I didn't get that jealousy end of it, which apparently is a kink of mine.

So it wasn't that end all be all, oh, yeah, this is my new personality. It was just a, yeah, that was the fun experience. And I would not say no to it again, but it's not the end-all be-all that I was hoping for it to be. But I mean, don't be wrong. It was it was hot. They were very comfortable with themselves and they were very much, there are no rules. You can basically do whatever the heck you want until she says no or he says no. And I'll just say this. They never said no. right and so did you go home i mean what is your deal with your wife you guys have free reign to do whatever you want i mean do you is it a don't ask don't tell or is it come back and tell because i fucking like it she does not care to hear about it she i came home and and she said did you have fun i said yeah it was it was fun she goes you're going to see him again and i said probably not and she goes well probably not it's it's not everything i was hoping it was going to be it was still fun but maybe they weren't the right people.

Maybe it wasn't the right circumstance. I don't know what. Why was she not included in meeting up with that couple, considering she likes girls and why? She was not attracted to them at all. Okay. So she was like, you take one for the team. You could have them if you're interested, but I'm not.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so that's kind of where we are today. No, but I mean, so tell me like how it comes to be, that this becomes more than just sex and you're really open to wanting to have even an emotional attachment with other people? There are things that women provide that men cannot.

And who am I to deny my wife, the woman I love, the experiences from someone else of something I can't give? If she was still out there cheating and finding other guys, it would hurt. It would be like, well, what do they have that I don't? Why do you feel the need to go to them and not come to me or at least have me join in? That would hurt. But if it's another woman, it's all. I don't have the right anatomy for that.

I get it. I totally understand. No, but I'm not talking about sex. You guys are open to having someone come in so that you both actually have feelings for them. Yes. How does that come into play? That's a different, very different thing than just going out and fucking. other people. So she is very, my wife is very emotionally driven. She needs to have that

mental connection, that relationship there to really enjoy being with another woman. I mean, she does have her one night stands and stuff like that, that she is very much more just, oh, yeah, we're just having fun. But since then, since it's kind of happened again, she goes, I'm missing something there. I'm missing that. mental, that emotional connection with the person. And that's when I had said, well, what if we got to know someone? What if we found somebody that we could get to really know? And sitting on the couch and talking to each other after work for hours about this stuff every night for weeks, it just became more and more like, this is, this is the natural progression for us. This is

where it needs to go if we are going to keep exploring us as a couple, as a relationship, and what have you. But is the emotional attachment for her with the woman, but also you with the woman? Did you decide that you're both going to fall for the other girl? Is it just going to be her girlfriend? Yeah. We have to decide that we should both have equal feelings for the person and want them in our lives. And we're kind of realizing now that that might be an all order.

We've met plenty of nice people, but nothing that we both close. on the same level with them. I've met a few people that I go, oh, no, this person's really cool. I'd like to get to know them more. And then we talk to them as the three of us talking. And my wife goes, oh, I'm not, no, I don't like that. I don't like her.

I don't like this. I don't like that. And vice versa. There's been a couple where she's talking to them. And she goes, hey, let's bring the three of us into the conversation together and talk about this. And then I'm quickly like, I'm not, I'm not feeling it. And again, we're both given the opportunity.

if you do this person, you know, explore it, but we're both cautious of each other's feelings and thoughts at that. Because, you know, if you pass on someone and then the other person continues on, it is almost a breach of trust. And thankfully, it hasn't happened yet, and I'm hoping it doesn't. But neither one of us has continued to talk with any person that we've previously passed on. But what about you have this thing where you're like, you like the jealousy thing. Do you want her to hook up with other guys? What's going on with that? because that's like your king. Yeah, it's a weird one that I haven't really been able to explore.

You know, I've only ever seen her with my, for a lack of better terms, my best friend and his wife. You know, we've, that's the only other male she's hooked up with that I have personally seen. So it is kind of a weird situation where I'm like, yeah, I'd like to experience this and explore it. But at the same time, she's not really wanting to explore it. And so I'm not going to push her into something she's not comfortable with or not wanting to do. So, no, I have not been able to really explore or experience that particular side of myself. And I honestly don't know if I ever will because she is just not into that idea, I guess.

Right. So what do you go looking for? That third girl that you and her are both going to like or more couples? Right now it's it's mainly single females. Our experience with the couples has been not very good. We've had a couple of people saying, oh, yeah, no, it's me and my girlfriend, and then quickly the girlfriend drops out or, oh, we broke up, but I'm still interested in you too, the male saying that to us.

And we're like, well, that's a bait and switch. You brought A to the table and you've taken A away, and now we're male, male female female, a male and that's not what we went into this conversation with. And it's frustrating to say the least. So we've we've kind of blocked, not blocked, but we filtered down the apps to select only single females for now just to see what even we can. But being here in the Midwest, it's kind of slim pickings. Right.

And how's your sex life with your wife? Oh, it's great. I mean, every night, if not every other. And I mean, we're, I'm surprised that we are still so turned on by the idea of this, because this has been going on for about a year now that we've actually been open as, yes, we are a couple that enjoys swinging. Yes, we are a couple that is looking for another person to come join us or people to join us. And I thought, okay, six months and we'll both just kind of be, yeah, whatever, it's another day. but it just continued to be a ongoing turn-on for us and that hope of, well, maybe the next swipe or the next will bring that magic person into this world that we're looking for.

Right. And now your wife is cool with you banging the girls? Yes and no. She says I can, but I have not taken advantage of it. I've only taken advantage of the one opportunity with the couple. And that was just kind of, like I said, it was a me thing going, well, heck, maybe I'm into this. Maybe this is my thing. But what about when you've had threesomes with the women?

Yeah. Yeah, what? I'm sorry, what was that? When you have threesomes with women, you've had threesomes with women with your girl. Do you bang the other girl during those threesomes? Yes. It's actually almost kind of weird. Weird, not weird.

almost a set thing that happens. Her and the girl will start making out. I will be touching them and kind of helping them along. If one's eaten one out, I'm going to go down on the other one and vice versa. And then I can tell when my wife is really ready when she's feeling it, because she'll start giving the other girl commands. She'll be like, you're going to suck his dick right now. Or you're going to sit on his face or I'm going to sit on his face and you're going to ride him, stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, I can tell she's, she's warmed up. She's, she's ready to really get going. And it always, always finishes with the other woman and my wife in 69 with the woman on top. And then I'm taking the other woman doggy style. So she does allow you to bang the other girl.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Why do you say yes and now? Because as of right now, she says it's okay for me to hook up with another female if I find one. And she kind of gives me the knot. It's not really a check-in, but it's a courtesy like, hey, I've met someone, I'd like to go meet them in person and see what happens. And it's the nod of, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'll watch the kids tonight or I'll do whatever. But it's kind of the sign off, but not really, it's not her saying yes or no as much as it is her going, I acknowledge you, respectively asking me for permission to go out and do this and me saying, yes, go ahead. Okay, hey, listen, Hunter, do you mind me? I'm going to wrap it up now, but do you mind me?

I'm going to put this out as a fact or fiction because I don't even know if I believe this fucking story. Oh, that's unfortunate. I love my story. I love your story too. We're going to put it out and see what everyone says. I think you're going to get, listen, I don't think this is one of those ones

like the other guy where it was very obvious and there was no proof and everything and I knew the ending of the story. I don't know. I'm going to edit this, right? And I might feel a different way. There was one girl on this poor girl, Ashley. I think I'm going to get her back.

on for my 600th, seventh, hundredth episode and redo her episode because I really fucked her up by not trusting her story. And it was totally true. And it was one of the best stories ever to be on my show. This girl like fucked her best friend's mother and her stepfather or some shit like that. It was so good. And I

didn't believe it. And it was obviously true. And I messed up the whole thing and ruined the whole thing. And I feel like I got to do a redo there. With your story, I feel like it's going to be very split. I personally don't believe you. But I think it will be fun to see how other people feel.

Like I said, I'm not going to edit this and take out any content. I'm not going to try to make you sound like a liar. I'm not going to try to make you sound more believable. I'm just going to air it as is, right? Like I said, there was no edits that need to be in this episode. I'm curious what other people think. I feel like a lot of this story is bullshit. But I'm curious what other people think, and I'm going to put it out as a factor fiction.

But I do think you're going to have a lot of people on your size. I probably not I mean it's not it doesn't paint me in the best picture no no no no this isn't are you a scumbag or not what do you mean to how bad of a guy you're 17 you're 19 years old you listen let's say it's true right okay what part of this story that you're a scumbagged your wife was cheating on you you knew she was cheating with her boss you were cheating on her I mean you're both wrong so I mean you're still with your wife when you were 19 you stole your guys your friend's wife I don't This is not about whether you're likable or not.

I don't think people are going to go there. It's not going to be about that at all. That's not what I'm questioning at all. It's the truth of the story. That's what people are going to be debating. Yeah. You're right. I mean, for whatever it's worth,

hand to God, I am, this is a hundred percent story. Well, let me ask you this. Your wife listens to my podcast, right? She has not since I showed her. Okay, but she knows of my podcast. Does she know you're coming on and telling the story? She must know this whole story.

I mean, she was a part of it. Everything's been out on the table. She knows you cheated. She cheated. I mean, everything that you told me your wife knows will, and she knows my show. Will she be, will she know, does she know that you're coming on? I had not told her. I was going to wait to see when and if this even aired.

Oh, it's going to air. If I waste my time in an hour. I mean, I have 35 taped already, but everyone eventually airs. I have to actually, I think, start putting out four episodes of me because I have so many episodes taped. It will air. Are you going to let her listen? Yeah. My plan was to surprise her and be like, hey, I went on the show and here's our story. Okay. So we'll see what she chimes in. So, you know, maybe she could come on and tell the story from her point of view. That would be good proof. But, you know, I am going to put it out if it's cool with you as a factor fiction. I don't think,

like I said, I personally think, like the last guy that I did that with, he got maybe two people saying they believed him. I think it's going to be very split down the middle with you. I don't think everyone's going to feel the way I do about it, which will be interesting. I like those episodes. I think they're really interesting conversation starters and then they add another layer to the whole story on top of it because it becomes like a mystery. So let's see what people say Hunter. Like I said, this is not about whether Hunter's a good guy or not. I mean, I already called you out for being a scumbag for stealing your friends. You called him a scumbag. You were kind of the scumbag. You were kind of the gun back, but you know, no one's perfect.

Okay, I'm not, like, we all make mistakes, right? So we're not judging you in this thing. And if people judge you on YouTube, don't worry, I'll stick up for you about that. But, you know, this is just about factor fiction, but it's also your story. People are going to listen to your story. Yeah, yeah,

you know, and I'm just as interesting to see what other people say as well. All right, so you're down. You're down for the factor fiction spin on it. You're cool with it, because I don't want to, listen, last time when I did it to that guy, He was very fucking cool and he knew straight up and people were like, that was mean to do. I'm like, I did it.

This was all on the up and up. Listen, you call into my show. You're like a guest in my house. I respect you whether you're lying or not. And I don't want to, I would never do that to you if you were like, oh, no way, Kathy. I just want to make sure you're cool with it. Like I said, I do think you're going to get people on your side. And I'm going to and I got to be cool with the fact that people are going to be like,

you're the fucking asshole, Kathy. You know, I'm going to get shit too. I trust me. More than you, I think people that. believe you will be like you're so rude but i can handle it i you know i get you know when you have a something out there you get online trolls and people saying mean things all the time so i'm used to it so as long as you're cool with it that's the way i'm going to spin it you're cool with it that's what you said correct correct and you know what i'm anonymous on here so even if people hate me

no one's going to hate you like i said we're not debating that hunter no no no we're not debating that we're debating truth or fiction but you also told your story and thank you so much for calling in listen I will give you and you could go in I have like over a thousand people on my discord that's like a community over there you could go in there and talk to people you will get free access to it because you came on my show so when your episode goes up probably a week or two I will and it'll be a bonus episode on a Thursday I will send you a link so you could go on to my discord for free everyone else pays but you'll get in for free and you could talk to people over there too well thank you awesome thank you hunter yeah one one

more thing. I just wanted to say thank you for putting up your podcast. I mean, honestly, it kept me sane on so many drives around and it gave me the courage to open up to my wife and tell her the things that I had been hiding from her in the sense of this is something that is a kink of mine and I really enjoy it. And I enjoy seeing you. And it gave me the courage to just say, you only get one life at this. You make it what you can. And opening up and talking to her has made my sex life and my personal life just so much better. and I directly link it to your show. I love that. Listen, if people stay all the way into that,

they're going to be like, listen to what he just said, Kathy, he's obviously telling the truth. I think that just makes you sound more believable, but I love that. That's actually awesome. I do my show list, and I think sometimes I always say this, if you look at all the titles,

it just sounds like a dirty sex show, but I think what I'm trying to bring to the table is something that actually helps people. I hate how judgmental people are. I hate how close-minded people are. I don't really take sex that seriously. I wish other people wouldn't. I'm just here to say this is what fucking people do.

Who the fuck cares? I know some people get woodies for it, but what I'm always hoping is that I am helping people. And I get a lot of people emailing me and saying the same thing that you said. People that listen, thank you. It's made me open up or it's made me not feel alone. There's a lot of different reasons. But I love the fact that it's a conversation starter.

And I've heard that many times, and I think that that's fucking awesome, because all you've got to do is open up and tell your partner what you're fucking into. Those kinds of conversations go a long way. Really, they really do. And now that there's podcasts out there, that is a great way to start those conversations. Get a book. Ask some questions. Get a podcast. Pass it on.

It is a great way to start admitting and copping to these little dirty secret fantasies that you have that everyone's too afraid to put. to the person that they've been married to for 30 years. Like, what the fuck? Like, just start being who you are. And you might be surprised that your girl is the same way. You think girls don't have these fucking fantasies. They do. So I think it's great that it allowed you to be open and talk.

Like I said, I've heard that before from other people. And my goal is always to help people. So I love that. Yeah. Well, thank you. So thank you, Hunter. Let's see who wins, okay? All right.

Sounds good. Thanks so much for calling it. Thank you. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook,

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