Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 743 - FETISH FRIDAY: Karina is a Young Crossdresser at a Major Crossroad

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

Karina is a young, crossdresser at a major crossroad and she called in to talk all about it. When did Karina realize she was into dressing? How does she feel about her fetish? And, what exactly is the crossroad she is currently facing? Tune in to hear all the details including how she remembers sneaking into her mothers closet to steal dresses when she was super young, how she always knew she found women wearing tights ad dresses extremely appealing, how her sister caught her wearing aa dress and told their parents about it, how the parents reacted and what happened afterwards, when she started buying her own dresses and where she would get them from, how and why she wears a dress to sleep every night, how she would buy and purge constantly, how one of his first girlfriends found out about her dressing an dhow she felt about it, how his second girlfriend felt about it and how she reacted after they broke up, how she lied about her fetish to her current fiancé when they first started dating, how she eventually found out and how she reacted, how and why they both went to therapy and wound up purging together afterwards, how she continues to buy and dress up and how and why she’s lying to her fiancé about it, how he plans on marrying her and why she needs to come clean that her fetish onset going anywhere plus a whole lot more. **To see pics of KARINA'S DRESSES plus anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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She's a cross-dresser, Karina. We did, of course, in the beginning go all the way. back to like when she first started dressing, when she realized she liked dressing up. And of course it was like when she was very young, she remembers like sneaking into her mom's dresses and finding them and being into them. She always saw women in dresses and realized she, like it was very appealing to her. Like I said at a very young age, it was very evident to her that that's what she liked. She was caught when she was very young, dressing up by her sister who was younger than her. And the sister told the parents. And then the sister then lied to the parents. And it was like this whole sort of scheme that the sister did. She was very naughty sister. That whole story is like super funny. And I kind of harp on it a little bit because it was so interesting to me how the parents reacted and stuff. But she talks about that. Her parents don't know really though that she is across us. So they kind of swept that under the table. After that she started dressing. When she moved out of her house, she started buying on her own.

she definitely sleeps in dresses literally every single night. Okay. Karina is wearing a dress every night to bed. That's how she rolls. That's what she's used to. She, like most cross-dusters, have gone through phases where she buys stuff and then purges it. There's a big part of her that wishes that her fetish would go away. And that's because she's had problems with people that she's dated.

Karina is only 30 years old. Okay. One of her first girlfriends found out about it and couldn't handle it. and then another girlfriend that knew about it and could handle it, but she was crazy. And when that ended, she was very negative about the cross-dressing and really like threw it in her face. And that was pretty devastating for her to do that. And so when Karina wound up with her current girlfriend, who happens to actually also be her current fiancé, she tried to lie about it, but eventually the fiancé found out.

The fiancé didn't, wasn't really into it. So she decided to purge again. She was trying to will it away. Of course, we all know, okay, that fetish isn't fucking going anywhere. They did wind up going to therapy together. The therapist said what I just said, like this isn't going anywhere. But instead of them coming home and dealing with the fact that this wasn't going anywhere and them figuring out what they should do in their relationship, what they did was they purged together.

You won't believe what they did when they go home. He talks about that. That was their solution. and sweep it under the rug. They're still together. They eventually got engaged. She's about to marry her, okay? And she doesn't know that he's still a cross-dresser.

She thinks it went away. She doesn't know that he sleeps in dresses every single night. I'm like, what the fuck are you think you're doing? I am trying to warn Karina in this episode not to get married before you come clean with this because what's going to happen after she gets married if she keeps us under wraps and then the wife finds out when she's a wife and she's got kids and they bought a house together. Oh my God, it's going to be so fucking messy. Karina is

at a really interesting point to me in her life. She's like at a crossroads. She could either come clean and be completely honest and find out if this person is really the right person for her. And if not, she needs to move on. Or the other path is she's going to not come clean.

She's going to marry this girl. She's going to live a double life. And when this girl finds out the truth that she already kind of knows, she's going to flip the fuck out and she's going to divorce her. And then she's going to lose everything. Now, I am really rooting for Karina to do the right thing and be straight up honest. I don't think it's a lost cause with the girl that she's with right now, the fiancé.

I think there's a chance that the fiancé would accept it and they could compromise and figure out a way to stay together. I'm curious about what all the cross-dresses are going to listen to this episode thing. Karina really needs your advice. I'm hoping everyone rallies up and talks to. to Karina go on to YouTube to post comments or if you're on my Patreon, post comments there. Because Karina needs to do what I say to do, which is come fucking clean. She literally, like I said, is at that crossword.

She did promise me that she was coming clean right after the New Year's. So hopefully I get an update from her and she has that come clean moment and we see what happens. And if that does happen and I get that information for her. from her after this episode airs, the update will be on my Patreon on the cross-dressing tier. So anyway, you're going to love this episode. I think it's full of like really interesting stories

as well as really great advice. Sorry, I think I give great advice on this episode and it's funny and it's interesting. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Karina. Oh, and Karina did, didn't send me picks of her dressing because she can't really, but she did something in picks of her dresses.

says. So if you want to see those, they are on my Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The link is in the description. I'm going to be right back on with Karina. Hi, Karina. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm doing good, Karina. Now, Karina, you're a cross-dresser. Karina is your cross-dresser name. I like that name, Karina. I'm going to make you sound like Karina because I'm going to change your voice and I'm going to change a little bit higher. So now you're a cross-dresser, right, Karina? And I always like to start way back, because I always think most of the time, and sometimes it doesn't. It's not always the case, but most of the time, cross-dressers realize that they're into cross-dressing pretty early on. What are

your first memories? So it seemed a lot of my childhood, there was a lot of gray areas. And I'm not really sure if that had anything to relate with it. But as a kid, For some reason, it started where I would, my parents would leave and I'd sneak into my mom's closet and find a dress that I found appealing and I'd try it on. And for some reason, it, like, it really was a satisfying feeling whenever I'd put it on. And so that's kind of, gosh, I want to say I was probably like seven or eight years old when it first started. Yeah, that's interesting because I have a seven-year-old, so I can, I'm just trying, like, I can actually picture that. age because my kid is like seven now do you remember anything though like before that or yeah i know i've always i mean as i've gotten older i've been more recognizable of what i find appealing and

whatnot and i've always found women in skirts and dresses and tights and that sort of thing very very attractive i mean you can take uh you can take a girl that's typically like a six and put her in a dress and and she immediately becomes an eight to me. It's just for some reason it's a lot more attraction there when women are wearing those things. And so I think that's kind of where I don't know if I felt that as a kid. I don't typically recall that I would imagine I did. Yeah, you don't know which comes first, but they're definitely connected for sure.

The fact that you, A, not only want to embody that yourself, it's also those. something that you is very attractive to you when you see a woman like that besides you also wanting to be that woman. Exactly. Yeah, that's interesting. So I mean, listen, at seven, you're not like sexually attracted to people, but maybe there was something about seeing women when you were younger that stood out to you. I don't know, but I get that a lot of times memories are just not available to everybody at these young ages. I don't remember every fucking day when I was little either. So now you were going into your mom's closet in sealing her dresses, did you ever get caught or anything?

So here's the, here's the funny part. The only time I ever did get caught was by my, by my little sister. I think at this time now, I want to say I was like 12 or 18. Oh, no. And she was, she was like six. Oh, okay. She's six. Okay.

Yeah. So, so she saw me and it was. I don't remember. I think I walked out of my mom's room wearing it and I thought she was sleeping or something and she caught me and it pretty much went along the lines of I was like panicking. I was like, don't tell mom and dad. Don't tell mom and dad like whatever you do, keep this between us. And so that's where I thought that it was going to kind of end. So what did she say to that? Did she laugh at you? Did she say no big deal? What was her reaction? action because I think sometimes the way someone reacts could affect you.

She asked me why I was wearing it and I said because it was very pretty and I wanted to try it. And she was like, oh, and it was kind of back then I didn't really have a close relationship with her. So it was kind of, it kind of was like, I just panicked and said, don't say anything. And that was, as far as I remember, that was kind of how that ended. I was like, she asked me why, and I said why. And that was kind of the end of it. And she never told anyone. Well, here's the funny part.

So this was, gosh, not even a couple days later. She, I don't remember why, or was it the same day? I'm having a really hard time remembering that. Okay, it's okay. Around a couple days later, I mean, it's very close to the time that she caught you. Something happened. Yeah, it might have even been the same day. It was after, I remember my parents were home and they were laying in their bedroom. And my sister, she runs into the room and goes, mom, mom, Corey was wearing your dress. Oh, no. So she did tell. She did. So anyways, so she, my parents are like, um, are you sure? They kept asking her. Are you sure?

Because my sister, when she was that young, she was always the devious little one. Of course, little kids tell fucking stories. So you always going to, you don't know whether that six-year-old is telling a tall tale. Because that sounds like a fantasy. Oh, you saw your, it doesn't, it could totally be a made-up scenario from a six-year-old girl with a vivid imagination. Right. And she was the one that literally would get in a fight with my little brother and she'd slap him. Yeah.

And then she wouldn't do anything. Yeah. He wouldn't do anything and she would just start crying and then it's all, it's all his fault. She was really devious. Yeah, she was. That's why you knew she couldn't. She was never going to keep that secret for you. She's a devious bitch.

She was, of course, going to go tell your parents. Okay. So she runs into the room, tell him, and mom and dad her question and are you sure, yada, yada, yada. And then my mom was like, well, here, look in my closet, point out which one he was wearing. and she pointed at the exact dress that I was wearing and I'm standing there in the room. And I'm like shaking, trying to keep the straightest face. I just played it off. I was like, I really don't know what she's talking about.

And then my parents sent us both out of the room. They're like, leave the room. We need to talk. And so me and my sister went out of the room. Well, guess what day it was lucky enough for me? Halloween? It was April 1st. Oh, April 1st.

Fools. Oh, okay. I went up to my sister and I was like, you have to, have to. I will do anything you want. You need to go in there and say April Fools. Like you need to tell them it was a joke. Like it couldn't have been better timing. I don't remember exactly what I did or how I bribed her to go in there and say that. But she did. She went in there and said April Fools and that she was joking. and that was the end of it as far as I know.

Oh my God. Let me just tell you why that was so fucking smart of you. Because that little devious girl, now she's being devious against your parents. Like she just mind fuck them. So the part of her that liked to fuck everybody up, like that was fun for her to go to your parents and be like, oh, I was only lying. She's just like, that was kind of a great move. Right. It was.

Now, at the same time, what I really wonder is, I wonder if my parents have any thought or suspicion of it actually happening because how does, I guess, putting myself in their shoes, how, how devious can you be to go out and point at that exact dress? Oh, kids, listen, kids are very imaginative. They're very creative. Their lies are very extravagant, especially at the same. that age and she was like the naughty one. And let me tell you the other thing about parents.

I don't know how old you are, but, you know, how old are you, by the way? 30. Okay, you're only 30. But like most parents don't want to believe terrible things about their kids. And that would be a really hard thing for a parent to swallow that their little kid wants to wear dresses. I don't know how progressive your parents are. But I think the parents nowadays are a little bit more used to stuff. But back in the day, most parents are going to want to not believe that.

So if you give them April fools, they're going to. take that and they're going to they're going to live in denial okay so my my parents are are very hardcore what's the word i don't want to say prejudice but anti everything yeah so they were going to take your sister's word for it okay trust me yeah they were their kid they wanted to fucking love you they didn't want to face all their gross parts of themselves and realize that the people that they fucking hate is their son okay and then they'd have to actually get past that and realize that the people they hate could be their relatives. Think about it. Like even today, even today, if they were to ever find out, I don't think either one of them would ever talk to me again.

Now, it could be wrong, but that's just... That's how they roll. Yeah. So I think a parents like that would believe your sister and go on with their life. Trust me. Yeah. I think they'd just pretend like it doesn't exist. Well, they're still talking to you, right? Well, yeah, because they don't know. So you just confirmed it. Like you said, if they knew, most likely they wouldn't talk to me ever again, they didn't give you side eyes after that. They'd never acted strangely. No, they, listen, it makes total sense.

I have a child. And you were the older child, and she came and she was the naughty one. It's not hard to believe the story that you guys pitched your parents. It was that she said she saw you in a dress, pointed to it, and then said April fools. And that could be the truth. That could be an April Fool. fools joke that a little kid and her brother would say. So I don't think it's at a heart.

It wasn't it. It wasn't like, oh, too hard to believe and your parents are like, what the fuck? This sounds crazy. It was like the perfect storm. April fools. You had it. I mean, it was, I think that they believed it because it was believable. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. So go on. I'm sorry. I love this story. It was kind of like an interesting getting caught story. Yeah, so I don't know, that was kind of the only time that I really got caught. And then the reason that I kind of like wonder if they have suspicion is my dad made it a absolute priority to bring it up over and over again about this free prank that my sister played and this and that every single holiday Thanksgiving Christmas, it had come up. And he's a jokester. He's a jokester

So he always like He always brings it up And yeah And then we got our He's like He's like Yeah And then I got my

Dress wearing son over here And then he'll tell the story And I'm like Sitting there Yeah You think it was a joke But yeah It wasn't really a joke

But I I just sit there at the dinner table That's awesome That's so fucking hilarious Isn't it? Oh gosh It's It's never failed

I mean I mean, for the last how many years, 16 years or so, it's... They're still telling the story and they don't realize that the joke's on them. Right. They don't realize it's actually happening. And let me ask you this, though, that little deviant sister of yours grew up, right? I mean, so she never came to you and said anything about it or said at one of these functions where your dad's making the joke. Wait, wait a second.

So here's the funny part. So out of us siblings, she was... She was actually the only kid in the family that decided to basically start believing her own views in life and her own views of gays, lesbians, etc. And not be like on board. You mean she was like open to it? She's like open to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She has friends of all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I want to say it was like about two years ago. I finally, I came clean to her and told her everything, basically. And she's the only one that fully supports me and knows about it. Yeah, how wonderful. Which is cool. I mean, I don't ever really see her, hang out with her much, but she's away at college. But, no, I mean, I can send her snapshats of dresses I buy and stuff like that.

And she's always, yeah, she really, it's like she genuinely cares about me and my happiness and doesn't place judgment on it at all. Yeah, there you go, the naughty one. She was naughty because she knew your parents were fucking psychos. They say that there's always, I was that one of my family. They say there's always like a lightning rod in the family. And it's typically the kid that really acts out the most and the kid, the problem child. But really what they are, like they say, they say there's a lightning rod because they're the ones that see through everything. They're the ones that know what the fuck's going on. She probably knew your parents were fucking freaks. They were so, judgmental. She knew that's not right. You know what I mean? And she was like reacting and acting

fucking naughty, but she was just a smart bitch. That's it. Exactly. I mean, she has the smartest one in the family. Yeah, well that's, well, those are the ones. I was the smartest one of my family. They know the nonsense. They see it early on. It doesn't matter that their little children. They know that they're like smarter than their parents. That's how I was. I knew my parents were fucking psychos. I'm like, this is not, something's not right here. And then they act out because they're children because they don't know how to sort of express that and they need their parents, but that's what's going on with those kids. So it really makes sense who she wound up being and that she's more open and she's like the opposite of your parents. And that's like a great story

that she wound up to be the one that caught you. And then so many years later, you told her. And yeah, she's in college now when you're 30. I mean, by the time you guys are 50, you could be really super close. So you don't know how that relationship goes over time. But I think that that's wonderful that you were able to tell someone in your family and that she's super accepting of it. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so now you're trying, let's go back to you now. So you're trying like your mom's dresses when you're little.

It didn't obviously stop, I'm assuming, when your sister caught you. No. So when I moved out is when I actually started buying on my own. And primarily, I mean, I've, ever since I moved out, I've been working not. stop. So I literally just, that's kind of my nightly routine is get home from work, make dinner, and throw on a dress. And I usually fall asleep in the dress. I wear a dress to bed every single night. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And so when, let's see, so I bought all those clothes. I was renting from a place. And when I moved from there, I kind of went back and forth with it because

back when this kind of started, all this stuff wasn't so accepting. And so I was sitting there telling myself all messed up I am and how this is just not appropriate. So I would purge. So I threw away, as I've been reading, it's very common. And I'd purge it all. And then give it like another couple months. And I'd slowly start acquiring more and more and more. And I think I've purged, gosh, I want to say five times now.

and just keep buying more. And it's like this addiction that I can't quite figure out. I've tried to get rid of it. No, but that's the problem right there. There's the saying, what you resist persists. Okay, so think about that. The more you tell yourself you have to stop this, the more you're going to be pulled to it. So just accept it.

And then it will even out and it won't be so powerful. It's you're giving it more power by resisting it. Do you understand? It's not going to go away, okay? It's not going to go away. I know, and that's what the therapist said too. Yeah, yeah. But it can lessen if you stop trying to push it away.

Do you understand? That will make it feel even more out of control and drive you a little nutty. And you don't need to add that on top of it. Because listen, I get that it's a hard fetish to have. because you have to keep it a secret. It's how you're going to put it out there on a date. What does it mean?

There's a lot that goes on with it. You don't need to add on top of it. You trying to stop it because that's not going to happen. You can't control it. And the less you try, the better you're going to feel and the more relaxed you'll feel about it. It's like the opposite. I think you feel like, oh, the more you try to suppress it is the more you're going to have a handle on it.

But it's only going to make it actually more powerful. Well, we're going to get to later down the road here, we're going to get to why it's really a problem. Okay. I should call it a problem, but once we get to kind of the here and now portion of it. Okay. Yeah, so anyways, I would buy and purge and buy and purge, and I was dating my high school sweetheart at the time. And I remember I tried, I didn't really tell her about it, really. but what I did was every Halloween with her,

I convinced her I want to dress up as this or that, or it wasn't anything specific, just I wanted to wear her. I wanted to be a woman for Halloween. So I remember one year I did, one year I did like a jean skirt and some lace tights and a tube top thing. And I enjoyed every minute of that. And she obviously had no idea. she just thought it was for Halloween.

Yeah. Another Halloween, I want to do it again. And she let me do it again. But I think she never really like flat outside. This is concerning. But she definitely was like, this probably isn't normal to keep doing this every Halloween. Yeah. She's no dummy.

This is a little weird. And so eventually, I can't remember. I think I did bring it up to her slightly. and she because she got a beautiful prom dress for our prom together. And I so badly wanted to try it on. And so I think what I did was I told her about it. And she actually let me try it on. And then I don't remember where that went.

That relationship kind of started. That was kind of the starting to fizzle out point. I think she was just kind of like, I'm not okay with this. This is uncomfortable. And that was, that was okay. I mean, we were, we were kind of on the outs anyway. So we ended up separating.

I ended up, gosh, we were together for six years. And I think we separated when I was 20, 19 or 20. And, yeah, because we met sophomore year. So I would have been 15. Yeah, somewhere in there. So then I kind of. cooled around. I mean, I just kind of went crazy because she was the only person I'd ever slept with. So I kind of went on a horror rampage and had my fun and jumped into a relationship with this gal that

I came out about it right away, right off the bat. I said, hey, this is what I'm into. I hope this isn't weird. And she was actually accepting of it. Oh, that's amazing. So I was like, this is really cool. She actually would buy some for me or we'd pick out some that I could wear and she'd let me wear them around at home. And unfortunately, that relationship was very, very scary. She was on a lot of anti-psychotic meds that she had came off of. I didn't even know she was ever on meds. But you could tell when she was off of them. It was probably one of the scariest things that I went through in my life. But, and then the work. part about it was during the really bad breakup she basically went off and started yelling about

how disgusting I am and how the dress is wearing is so disgusting and she was telling people she will she probably did I don't know but she was saying it to you you mean she was saying she was trashing me for all of it and I was like sitting here oh I thought you were accepting and yeah so that kind of scarred me that relationship ended and I purged once again and started buying more once I, a couple months later, bought a bunch more and kept buying more. And so anyways, we can kind of fast forward to now. I have been with my fiance now for six years, engaged for a year.

And when we first started dating, I was in my heavy drinking stage. I was partying all the time and she kind of got me out of that stage. But when we were talking and I was completely hammered off my ass, I let it slip. I was like, yeah, I love to wear dresses and I cross dress all the time. And she, I could sense how disgusted she was by it. So the next morning when I got sober and she called me and we were talking, and I basically played it off like I was joking because I like I said I sensed it. Yeah.

So I played it off like I was joking. April fools. But she didn't, she didn't believe that. So I told her, I said, you know what? I used to do it. It's the thing of the past. I don't do it anymore. So I played that off.

Well, so needless to say, I started the relationship off on a lie. and then gosh it probably i don't know six seven months into dating she decided she stayed the night one night i always had to get up and go to work early and she would get up and leave and how i hid all my dresses is i had them all hung up in the very like way one side of my closet and then i would hang up all my coats and bulky items next to them to try to cover them up. So that she wouldn't refine them. Well,

she is, don't get me wrong. She is super sweet. She's very thoughtful. She always goes above and beyond to help me or make sure that I'm comfortable and she decided she was going to be sweet and do a deep clean in my room. So she,

as she was doing that and did all laundry and she's hanging stuff up, she came across them. And that's started a whole fight that almost ended in a breakup. She's like, I don't want this in a relationship. I'm not comfortable with this. And I was like, well, I don't know.

She's like, I love you and I care about you, but this, I don't know if I can do this. And so me being dumb, I was like, well, why don't, why don't I get help or something? I love her to death. And I was like, why don't I get help and see what I can do? to try to quit this because you don't want to lose her. I don't want to lose her. Yeah, of course. It makes sense. There's a part of me that, I mean, I still don't want to lose her,

but there's a part of me that would love to be able, like I said, to be able to quit doing it. Of course. It would make your life a lot easier. It would make it a lot easier. Yeah, of course. Our relationship would be a lot better and a lot stronger if I wasn't sitting here with this lie in the back of my head.

Yeah, no, it's a big burden to carry. I understand why you wouldn't. Like if you had a magic pill or one wish, right? The wish would be like get fucking rid of this fetish. I get it. It would solve a lot of problems. And you have this girl that's like wonderful and you really care about her and she

has told you straight to your face like this is a deal breaker. So I, you know, of course you're going to feel that way. So go on. Exactly. And so she was like, well, why don't we? I said, I will see a therapist.

But I'm absolutely terrified to do this on my own. Like I don't. And she's like, I'll go with you. Okay. So she goes with me. And the therapist pretty much said what you're saying. It's the more you try to resist it or purge it, the more you're going to want it. Yeah.

And she's like, this had to be what has caused this could have been directly related to something traumatic that happened in your childhood. And I said, well, I don't know a single thing. For some reason, I can't remember anything. from before I was five. I don't remember my childhood. And so when she was straight up, she was like, yeah, this is something you're not going to be able to fully year it of. And I was like, oh, oh, how's this going to go down?

Because now my fiance is sitting here listening to this. So we get out of therapy session and she was like, whatever, do what you want to do, I just don't want to know about it. Okay. So I purged it all. I mean, she... No, but she told you I just don't want to know about it, but you still wanted to try to get rid of it

because you didn't, you wanted to just make it easier. I wanted to make her feel better. So her and I together, we went through my closet. We packed all of them up in a bag. Oh, so you're both in fucking denial. Your therapist told the both of you. It's not going anywhere, but you both did exactly the wrong, exactly what he said not to do.

You both started purging. together. So she helped me pile it all in a bay and we went out to the fire pit and watched it burn. Very traumatic. Yeah, listen, I get why that would be, that's what would happen. You both really care about each other. You want to save this relationship. The best way to do it is like burn the fucking shit up.

Hopefully it'll go away. Yeah, so that was only a couple years ago. Yeah, probably about two years ago. And obviously I couldn't resist. So I bought more. And I keep buying more. I just bought more yesterday. And yeah, so here we are.

And I'm still with her. We're engaged. I'm looking at. Thank you. We're trying to find a house to buy together. We don't currently live together. She lives with her sister. Okay, but let me ask you.

Could I just ask you a million questions? Yes. Because we're at current time, right? Yeah. So you purged and everything. Now, when you say I buy, but of course I've bought since, I just bought the other day, does she, is she in the no? No, she doesn't have a clue. So she thinks that burning of that side of you that day was the end of your cross-dressing.

Yes. I would assume. No, I shouldn't assume. My question is, has she, since that happened, the burning, has she brought it up to you every now and then? Has she questioned you about it? Yes. She has questioned me and I've lied. Yeah, I know how girls are.

She doesn't believe that it's going to happen, but she wants it to, so she's going to keep sniff it around to see. She's going to, right? So what does she say to you and what do you say back? You lie. I lie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah.

And then I think she, I want to say part of her probably knows that I lie, knows that I still do it because she wanted to order something off of, my Amazon and obviously I try to clear anything I can but in the saved for later section I had a couple of dresses we were I remember

it wasn't that long ago we just went to we just went out of town back in July and we were driving and she wanted to order and she's like what are these saved for later items and I was like oh gosh those are from years ago you can just get rid

those it's fine oh okay so she you can't tell if you say something from later she can't tell when that late when that was saved from so she it could have okay so that was an easy save yeah so that I mean she didn't question it past that she just removed it herself she's like delete delete get rid of it um but yeah so yeah now she yeah she doesn't she doesn't have a clue um and i must have And I'm looking at them right now, probably 40-something dresses and skirts. Oh, my goodness. You have a problem here, okay? I do.

Especially because you're young. This is the time to face this head on because you don't want to be 50 and still dealing with us, okay? Because it's just going to get worse. You're not even in the same house with this girl yet. You're about to get married to her. She kind of knows, okay, already. You need to, I mean, why not just come clean and come to some sort of compromise? with her that you might have it, you won't do it with her,

you'll, I don't know, but I mean, what is lying about it going to do now? It's, it's going to come, like, she's going to find your dresses when you move in together, don't you think? Well, I plan on getting rid of them when we move it in together. And you think that, how long is that going to last for you? Well, you need fucking help. We got to help you. Listen, what do we call you?

Karina, listen, you need an intervention here because you, You had a very important time in your life. You're super young. You have a great relationship. All is not lost here. I don't necessarily think if you come clean and that you guys can't reach a place where you guys stay together and you could be a cross-dresser at the same time. I don't, I don't, I don't necessarily believe that that's the case. When she's, when we've, because we've obviously had deep conversations about this when it's been a problem.

And she's basically said, do you, do whatever you want to do? I don't want to see it. I don't want to be a part of it, yada, yada. And she's my biggest, my biggest concern is that I don't want our kids to see it. I don't want our kids. Okay. Why is dad you wearing a dress? We do have kids.

And that kind of breaks my heart because it's, yeah, I kind of feel the same way. I don't want my kids to go through what I'm going through right now. But that's okay. but you could make that rule with you guys and keep that separate. Can't is what could that could that work? I mean, yes. Yes. I mean, like I said, I mean, I wear them to bed every night like how's it going to work

unless I sleep in a separate room. Well, okay. Well, listen, forget about the kids. How is, you're already at the kids it not working with you dressing at night. But what about with her? She doesn't think you dress. You're not going to be dressing every night with her. If you marry her, she's not going to fucking put.

up with it. So you got to figure this shit out before you take everybody for the ride and spend everybody's money on a fucking wedding and everyone's got to come to it and waste their money buying you a present. And you guys wind up divorce one year later because you're wearing a dress every day. And she's like, what the fuck? You have to, you have to figure shit out before that happens. I mean, you can't even worry about having kids. She doesn't even know the truth about this fetish. And like you said, she probably does on some level. So you need to come clean with it. And just both of you live in the reality.

Most likely she's not going to send you packing and say, I don't want this. Okay. And maybe you guys will be able to negotiate what you can and cannot do and how it kind of can still exist without her being involved. Will you be able to sleep in a dress every night? Probably not. I don't know that she definitely say yes to that. But if she just said you could dress up whenever I'm not in home or do it. in this bed or do you do it one night a week?

Like what kind of compromise would work for you? See, that's what, you know, I don't know and I'm scared to have that conversation because I'm scared of losing her and I feel like that's, I feel like to her it's not a compromisable thing. She said do it, but I don't want to know about it. So say, so I mean, this is why I don't think it's a lost cause. She did say, yeah, she said do it, but I don't want to know about it, but at the same time, that's essentially, I don't know, it's lying, but it's not at the same time. No, it's like she wants to not really see it, but she knows that it exists.

So she accepts that that's a part of you. What I hear in that, the hopeful part of me, okay, the positive, the cup half full part of me hears in that. Okay, there's a negative in that statement, but I also could see a positive in that statement. So what I see in that statement is, okay, I know that you have this side. And I, but I love you and I want to be with you. So fulfill your fantasies, dress up, but don't tell me about it. And maybe somehow you could make that work where she knows and you could have your dresses in the closet.

Okay. So she needs to know that they're there and that you're going to do it. But you do it when she's not around. But you don't have to hide your dresses and purge and hide your fucking Amazon and all that stuff. I mean, that's a compromise, but maybe you just don't dress up in front of her. I mean, how do you think you're going to get married to her and sleep in a dress every night anyway? When was the last time you didn't sleep in a dress? Have you started to get used to trying to not sleep in a dress every night? Because you're going to marry this girl. What do you think's going to happen?

So I've tried in the last maybe two days, max. And so how are you going to marry her? I mean, the way you have it set up right now, you're going to marry this woman. and she doesn't even know that you want to, you sleep with dresses on and you can't even sleep not in a dress for two days. How does that work for you in your brain? Like how do you see your future with her in the house when you buy a house together? How do you see that happening? I mean, if you're spending money, you're going to go in on a house together. You're going to sign legal documents.

Marriage is a legal contract. It's very serious. You're going to do all of this without thinking this shit through? Well, I've been thinking this shit through. Your whole life. And, yeah, for the last six years, I've been thinking this. Yeah. Now I'm at the point.

I talked to my sister about this, too. Okay. And she loves my fiancé to death. Okay. Maybe every, every, everyone that I have shared this with has basically said, hey, maybe this isn't the right person for you. And I'm like, well, I'm kind of already committed. Like, I'm already going for it.

And everything else is perfect. This is the only thing in the way. But it's a big thing. I'm sorry. It's a big thing. It is. It is a big thing. And I don't really know.

I guess this is the fighting thought. I mean, everything that you're saying, how are you going to do this? How are you going to do that? That's been my fighting thought in my head for however long. Okay, but I got to tell you something different than what everyone else is saying. I don't necessarily think she's not the right person for you. You have never tried saying to her.

Listen, I have tried to make this part go away, but I think the therapist, but not I think, but I know the therapist that we saw that couple of years ago was right. It is never going to go away. I can't resist it. But I do believe that we could figure out a compromise. I can dress when you're not around, but I need for you to know that this part of me isn't going to go away. And I do like to dress up sometimes.

and I need for you to accept that if we're going to be living together. And we can negotiate other things and talk about it. But this part of me is not going to go. You have never tried that with her. So you don't know for a fact that she's going to be like deal breaker, I can't go. That's when you'll know if she's not the right person for you. This Memorial Day, shop one of Avocados' biggest mattress sales of the year and fall in love with sleep again. At Avocado, better sleep starts with better materials.

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have fucking kids in a house and all that garbage. And then you ruin your fucking kids' life. Not because they see you in a dress. They don't even fucking care about that. They're going to care when you get divorced when they're two. When your wife finds out and it is a deal breaker, you need to know who she is and what she could deal with now. And I do not believe now that she would 100% leave you if you were full up honest with her. And I don't believe also that you would be so compulsive about it if she if you were more honest about it i think that that you would be able to compromise and you would be able to feed your fetish in a way that could satisfy both her and you but you need to try to be you need to be honest with her first and start having those

conversations yeah yeah i i know what you're saying it's just it's a very scary conversation no but you know what scarier is what you're going to fucking do what's scarier is entering into serious contracts with somebody and into all this stuff, knowing all of this and not being honest about it. You're like at a big crossroads. It's very important. You could change your whole life for the better if you just sit down and have an honest conversation with her. You need to do that because you think in some world that you're going to be able to have her and not cross-dress and live in a life where you're sleeping in boxers every night, it's not going to happen.

It's not going to happen. You're in fucking la-la land. You just, you know, but I also, like I said, don't believe that. It doesn't mean she's not the right one. You haven't given her that full on fucking honest. This is the deal. You're either losing me forever and we have no future. We will never have kids.

We will never get married. You will lose me. have to go find another fucking guy. Okay, and let me just tell you, it's not easy for girls to find a guy for them to like. So you need to realize that it's not indefinite that she's going to leave you. I think there's more of a chance that she's going to stay. You just need to give her the chance for her to figure out whether she can accept it. All you got, like, you guys got very close to becoming very real with each other and really

dealing with the truth when you went to that therapist. But when that therapist gave you the truth, which was what I'm telling you, you need to tell her again, okay, because you both threw it in the shitter. Okay, the therapist said what you need to say to her, which is this ain't going anywhere. Okay? So what are you going to do? And instead, you both decided to sweep that under the table. You need to go back to that moment.

You were given the chance at that time to really face the truth of your guy's relationship and deal with it. She got to the point where she said, okay, listen, I just don't want to know about it. I told you, I'm telling you, that's not so bad. She didn't say, no, I can't fucking deal with this end of story. No fucking way could I ever accept it. You can't be a fucking crush. No, she said, just, I don't want to know about it. That's not so bad.

Yeah. Seriously, you need to be, you need to go back to that moment of the truth and really put it out there because you're both living in fantasy lands. You both have the information. You both know the truth. but you're both pretending that it doesn't exist. And you're going to get yourself into a real big fucking problem. Because once she has kids, you know what's going to happen when she has kids, okay? She's going to love them more than you.

Okay, that's what happened. Sorry to say. And she finds your, no, but if she finds your dresses when she has her fucking kids, she's more likely to be like, fuck you because she's got her kids. She's got her love and she'll see you fucking later. You got to do it now. Okay. She has a lot more to lose now than later.

And you're going to get taken to the fucking cleaners by her later. She's going to take your kids. She's going to take your fucking money. She's going to take half of everything you own. She's going to take the house. And you're going to wind up at your parents' house. And you're not going to be able to sleep in dresses there. Okay.

I'm sorry. But you need to really think about this now. Okay? Because now is the time to tell her. Now is the time to give her that ultimatum. Because now is the time she's more likely to stay. Seriously. Right.

Once she's a mom and she's thinking, thinking about her kids first, it's a different story. She's way more likely to be like, fuck you. And then you lose it all. And when you have kids, you don't want to lose them. You don't want to lose your wife. You don't want to lose all your fucking money. That's what's going to have.

That's what you're facing. Do it fucking now. Yeah. Because what you lose later is so much worse. You are young. You're 30 years old. You've already had two girls. You already had a crazy girl that was like,

with it. Your sisters has millions of friends that are totally on board. Like you're in a generation where there are a lot of women out there that would be more accepting of it because people are more honest nowadays. So you need to take advantage of that, okay? Yeah. You're not talking to like people in my age group. They're like dinosaurs. They grew up in a time where nothing was okay. People are so narrow-minded and gross. More like your parents, right? Your parents are probably my age. Those are the people I dealt with my whole life. They're fucking assholes. Okay, like narrow-minded, judgmental, nobody that's different. Nothing different is cool. You know, nowadays that's not the case. You're living a great generation where people are so much more accepting. And look,

your sister's six, you were 12. She's six years younger than you. You could date a girl that's younger than you. That's okay with it. But I think you've still got to give this one a chance. I don't necessarily believe 100% you lose her. But you have to be honest. before you go do all these other serious things with her. It's a fucking emergency situation in your life right now. Did you already get engaged? Yeah, you said you did. When are you getting married?

We haven't started a day yet. Okay, can you let her listen to this episode? I'm terrified. Oh, God. Can you let her, okay, let me ask you this. Your sister and her are close by any chance? Your sister's like open-minded, cool. She's a smart bitch, she said.

What's her a solution to this? Yeah, she's pretty much like you got to be honest. You have to I'm telling you Like I said You don't just lose her Later you lose Half your salary

You lose all that money You put in that house And you lose your fucking children Yeah You want to lose that You don't trust me No in the back of my head I still think it's something I could quit

You cannot quit Oh my God It's funny because before we tape this You're like, oh, I think that I don't really have an interesting story. This is a fucking fascinating episode. It's so good. All these cross-chesters that are listening to this need to rally up and help you to just do the right thing now. Do it now.

Okay? Because you just don't want it happening later. And like I said, now she's more likely to accept it because she loves you. As much as you don't want to lose her, she doesn't want to lose you. it's not easy to find a guy to go out and to find someone that's going to marry you, that all the stars align that you like, that you're physically attracted to, that's kind to you and nice to you. I'm assuming you guys have a healthy, normal relationship in every way, shape, and form.

Am I correct? Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Where do you think she's going to find that? But I'm going to tell you, okay, when she got her ring and she's got her house and she's got her kids and you gave her everything that a woman needs to check. check off their boxes.

She's more likely to be like, fuck you at that time. But right now, you are giving her everything that every little crazy girl fantasies they haven't heard. You're going to give her a wedding. You're going to give her a house. You're going to give her our kids. She's way more likely to accept your shit now, okay? And be okay with it.

And you figure out some way for her to get used to it and be okay with it and try it on for size. Then later, if she finds out that you've been living a big lie. when she has all that stuff she could be like bye she got all that shit that every girl needs a lot of girls are like that they gotta lock it down okay so it's not like a girl is gonna walk

out on her fiancee that easy and she already knows okay we're not looking at oh you gotta be honest about something you've never told her about she knows yeah she knows that part of it there's a whole other spectrum that you're blowing guys are you

blowing guys too? No, I'm straight as can be. Okay, what's the other spectrum? You could just tell me real quick. Whenever I wear them or even see a girl in them, it's an immediate turn on. Who cares? Who cares? So one of my fantasies has always been able to possibly have sex while I'm wearing the dress.

With her? Yeah, you could work that in. But let me ask you this. If you could wear your clothes every now and then and she would accept. and you guys could still have a house and do all this stuff? Like, do you think that you could keep that kind of shit like a fantasy for the rest of your life if you got at least a little bit of acceptance? Yeah.

Yeah. So maybe that'll just have to be a fantasy forever. But if she accepts it and is okay and you could be honest and you could dress every now and then in the house and do it on the deal when she's not around. However you guys figure it out, maybe she gets more used to it. Listen, there's going to have to be some compromises. made. She's got to compromise and be okay with it and allow you to do it in the house sometimes and know that you do do it. And you're going to have to compromise a little bit for her. But I think

if you got to the point where you were more honest about it and you weren't pushing it away, right? Like I said, if you're not, stop resisting it and you're not living a lie, you might be able to feel like that you could be okay with that. Yeah. So don't worry about that taking you over. All of that feel so powerful to you now and all, because it's like you're so on the DL. You're just like pushing it down. Right. Yeah, that's very true. So talk to your sister.

See if your sister could have a little intervention, but, you know, so you don't have the wedding date, correct? No. Okay, you need to have the come clean date. Can you say six months from now, three months from now? I'm going to just say, listen, like this is the deal. I just, I can't help it. Like the therapist was right.

I'm sorry I really try, but I really don't want to lose you and I fucking love you. And I feel like somehow we could make a compromise. Like, you know, like, just say something like that and see what she says. Yeah, I could give that a try. You have to. Right. I don't really have much of a choice. No, you really don't because, you know, you don't want to happen what I warned you about.

Guys don't do what. Guys don't fare well in divorces. No, I definitely don't want that. You're not the, seriously, you lose more. A lot of times there's a lot of unfairness for women, and I believe that, right? But there's unfairness for men. They lose all their hair and go bald. That doesn't happen to women.

And they get fucking fucked in divorces. Not fair. I also think they don't fare well when it comes to abortions. They have no say if they get a girl pregnant. No say. The girl has total say. The guy has zero say, okay? So these are the small places where the odds are stacked against them.

And you don't want to find yourself in a divorce. And you're going to wind up there because you're too young. Your fetishes there. You have it. You're into cross-dressing. You've been sleeping in a dress every night. You keep dresses in your house. You're not going to be able to keep that at bay for long when you move in with her.

And before that happens, you need to come clean. And just you have to do it. I don't necessarily believe that she leaves you. I really don't. Yeah. Try the truth. All right. I'll give it a shot.

Oh my God. Keep me posted. You need to really put a date on your calendar. It doesn't have to be like tomorrow. Like say four weeks from now on this day, I'm going to do it. And like up until that day, know that that's your day. Do you know what I mean? You have to make it a thing.

You can't just say, okay, I think I'm going to. You have to actually put it in your calendar. Are you going to do that? Yeah. What's your day? Pick it now because I'm going to email you. bitch. Okay, tell, pick a day. And I'm like, this is the way it works. When I quit smoking, I decided six months before,

I'm going to quit smoking on my birthday because, like, I was turning 30 on the 30th of a day and I'm like, I should quit. When every day until then, people were like, oh, so what did you do? Did you like slowly quit? I'm like, no, I smoked up because I knew every day, these are my last days to smoke. So if I was like, should have another cigarette, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to have 10 more because I'm going to quit six months from now. And I lived it up. And the minute six months came, I put out my last cigarette. I cried. And, and. I've never smoked since. You need to make it a real thing.

Every day until then, remind yourself this is what you're going to do. What is your day? Is it three months from now? Sure. Let's make it a New Year's goal. Don't tell her on New Year's, okay? Can you do it right after New Year's?

Okay, don't ruin your holidays. Do it right after New Year's. We'll go a week after. Okay, so what's your day? Put in your calendar right now. I'm going to put in my calendar because I'm going to remember. I don't forget this shit.

Okay, so you're going to do it. January 6. No, do it like January 12th. Can't be on a Friday. All right. What about the 10th? I'm working. Let's do the 13th. Okay. Put it in your calendar on the 13th. Okay. That is your day. And every day until then, you remember you're doing it on the 13th. That is your day. So do what you got to do until then. But that is your day. Okay. That is the day. You're going to do it. And then you're going to tell me what happened. And I'm going to air this way before that. Okay.

And I hope a lot of my cross-dresses rally in and give you some of their opinions and their help. But you're going to do what I said, which is have the fucking conversation and give her the chance to see if she could really accept it and how your relationships look with the truth. Both of you living in reality. You guys haven't both lived in reality of your situation yet. So let's see what happens with that. Okay. All right. Good luck.

I love this episode is so great. Thank you very much. Karina, do you have any pictures you want to send in for the crossdels? For my Patreon or no? I don't. Okay, that's okay. Okay, let me ask you this. Do you have, do you, because you take a picture of your, like, dresses, like your stash?

Yeah, yeah, send me a picture of your stash. That's always an interesting thing to show. Okay, you want me to send them on your Patreon? No, send them to my email because when I post it, I'll post these picks with it. Okay, perfect. I can do that. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. It's so interesting and I'm really rooting for you and I can't wait for the follow-up.

All right. I will do that. All right. Awesome. Thanks, Karina. Thanks so much for calling in. Thank you so much, Kathy. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order. order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gangbang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all

told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview. And, rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short. Chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is. available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not

disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contest where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous

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