Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 760 - Amber and her Husband Have Been Hooking-up w/Couples and Chicks Since They Met Each Other

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

Amber found out her husband was in the lifestyle since she met him and they've been hooking uo with couples and chicks ever since and they called in to talk all about it. How did she find out her husb...and was in the lifestyle when they first started dating? When did they decide to start swinging together? And, what kinds of things do they enjoy doing while swinging? Tune in to hear all the details including what his experiences were in the lifestyle prior to meeting her and how she felt about it at first, how they decided to go to a nude beach first to start off and how she felt while there, how they wound up doing couple swaps next and the first couple they hooked up with, exactly what went down with them and how hooking up with them made her realize she was bisexual, how and why they had no rules going in and how jealousy never came up for her, the off threesomes they had with unicorns including his hairdresser and why that ended, how they broke up for short time and how and what she did in the lifestyle without him, how and when they got back together and started swinging again and why it was harder to meet people then, how and why they created a fucketlist and what kinds of things were on their lists, how her and her husband would up having a super hot fffm foursome with her her vanilla friend and her friend, how it started and exactly what went down, how they started going to house parties and the orgies that she wound up becoming a part of while there, their first lifestyle resort they attended and exactly what went down while they were there including the body painting event and all the couples they hooked up with, the first couple they met that they played solo with and how and why it went wrong, how and why being in the lifestyle has helped their marriage in every way plus a whole more. **To see anonymous pics of AMBER and pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:02 Her story is super interesting, especially because of how her open relationship with her husband now started. I mean, they were open from the get-go. She kind of found out he was involved in the lifestyle before they got married, like right in the beginning when they were first dating. That story of how she found out is super interesting. And he came clean to her. He had been hooking up with couples and stuff as a single guy before they met. And he started telling her about what he did.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And then she decided to hop on board. And so they have been hooking up with couples and doing all kinds of things from the get-go. They went in very different than most couples, like zero rules. Okay. And it has worked for them. I mean, she really only has one horror story that happened. And it happened recently. And this is like after 15 years of being in a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:04:50 In the beginning, they just did hookups with couples for the first couple. of years. She eventually realized she was into women. That happened during those first couple of hookups with other couples. And she's very into women now. They were always doing full swaps. There was never any kind of jealousy. There was a short time where they broke up and she became a unicorn and she got to town. Okay, they were only broken up for a short time and she was with a lot of couples as a unicorn. Then they got back together. And recently they decided to really get involved in the lifestyle. They created a fuck it list, the both of them. She read. what was on their, fuck it list.
Starting point is 00:05:25 All the things that were on there, they have checked off. And then she told me about all those experiences. The thing that kicks off them really getting heavily back in the lifestyle is like a foursome, okay, with one of her vanilla friends who she thought was vanilla and another girlfriend of hers. Okay, it was like her husband with her and two other women and they had a big F, F, FM, foursome that she said was like the best thing. Her husband's best night ever.
Starting point is 00:05:52 She goes into detail about that. that experience. And then they started to going to like swingers house parties and having orgies when they were there. And she talks all about that. She didn't know she would like orgies at first, but she turns out she does. They decided to go to lifestyle resorts. And when they go to a lifestyle resort, I mean, they went once. And she says that they hooked up with a couple every single night. They met someone every night, a couple that they were down for. She talks about that experience. They have plans to go back. They also decided to do. do some solo play. They met a couple recently and they did full swap with them and then did solo
Starting point is 00:06:29 room stuff and then decided to do solo play like from a distance. And that is the story that went wrong. But it's not because they had any kind of issues with it. They don't have any jealousy. They've had no problems being open. Like I said, they went in from the get go open. Zero rules. They're super down for everything and everything they try and do. They enjoy. And they've never had issues between them. It was much more of a issue with the other couple. And she talks a lot about that. We end discussing why they've been so successful and what the key has been for their marriage. I mean, they're married 15 years, I think she says, and they're still together happier than ever, living their best life. Most people don't know about her life except a friend recently found out,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and she's like kind of guiding her in her journey. But most people, this is like a very DL lifestyle for her, so she was very excited to come on and share. She's super hot. She sent me in pictures, so you're going to want to see those pictures. They're over on my Patreon. But you're going to love her story. It's super interesting. So I'm going to be right back on with Amber.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Hi, Amber. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. Thanks, Kathy. So listen, Amber, I like your name. Sounds kind of slutty. You are in the lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You went from Vanilla to being in the lifestyle, and you've had all kinds of things happen. good things, bad things. I love that kind of a story because it's very real life, right? I know you said that your origin story is really interesting. What is your origin story? So when I met my now husband back, back in what, 2009, we were dating. We met online, typical monogamous website. I think it was plenty of fish back then. We didn't have all those swiping deals like people have now. We met online, went out to a bar, had a really good time. time and about a month later, we had been hanging out regularly and seeing each other.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He calls me one morning and he's like, are you sitting down? And I said, yeah. And I was like, oh, God, here we go. And I really liked this guy. I was like, I am having so much fun. He said, well, I got to tell you something. I am on a website and I was caught, quote unquote, found out by someone that you know. And so pretty much he was on adult friend finder and he had been in the lifestyle prior to meeting me.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And as a single guy and he kind of, he had just recently moved. So he was looking to meet people and figure out kind of what he's looking for. And pretty much, I guess a girl that I knew had seen his photo. I must have been like, hey, here's the guy I'm dating. She was kind of an acquaintance of mine. Seeing his photo and then kind of matched it up to his profile on adult friend finder and called him out, sent him a message and was like, hey, I know you're dating my friend. You need to tell her what you're doing. This is wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You made this big deal. And meanwhile, we're dating for a month. He didn't owe me anything. But he's like, I don't care. I'm not hiding anything. So he pretty much called me and told me all about it. And at that point, that was when I discovered this alternative lifestyle that I had no clue even existed. Because he turned you on to it because you started asking questions about what he does on adult friend finder.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Is that how it started? Yeah. And then he shared with me like some of the experiences he's had in the past and with couples and just, you know, we ended up meeting and hanging out that night or a few days later. And so he's like, all right, sit down. Let's talk all about it. and just gave me the lowdown of what this whole alternative lifestyle was about. Question, though. Did you ever ask him, like, was he ever going to plan?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Was he planning on telling you about being in the lifestyle? Or was that something he typically kept on the DL from women that he dated? I never asked him. I never asked him whether or not. He planned on ever telling you. Yeah, I never asked him that. And I don't know whether or not it was like a make or break for him. Like if I wasn't interested, would we have, would he have ended up in a monogamous marriage if that
Starting point is 00:10:55 was going to be okay for him? Well, probably not. I mean, he was still on that website doing something that your friend found him there. I just think that friend did you guys both a very huge favor because look at how it turned out. I mean, if she had not told you, because you never asked him that question, like maybe he would have never told you. Maybe he would have been like a lot of my callers doing that chip behind your back because he thought you were so super.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Now, like, who knows? I don't know. Yeah. But so the good news is she kind of, I think that's cool of her. If she had like girl code, if you would have found out that she had seen it years later, never told you, you would have been passed. So I think it was a good thing that she got him to tell you and be honest because it really opened up the conversation.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So now, did you get into the lifestyle then right from the get-go with him? Yeah. You did? Pretty much. Oh, yeah. And now before meeting him, you're totally vanilla, right? So this is all new to you. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I mean, I was probably a typical 20-something-year-old single dating, had a few one-night stands. But like nothing. I mean, I didn't even know any of this even existed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now let me ask you this. When he's telling you all the stuff that he's into and explaining the lifestyle, are you open to doing it because you start to get horny hearing about the stuff? Or are you open to doing it because you just really like this guy and you'd want to do it for him?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Which was it at that point? So I think maybe a little bit of both. I think I was intrigued of what is this. And then I also think, man, I really like this guy. And I don't want to walk away. I'm not ready to walk away. I'm a girl. I understand.
Starting point is 00:12:30 That's how we roll. And I really respected the fact that he told me and was just like laid it all out and was honest. I was like, okay, well, you know, I can get behind this. I'm interested. Let's talk more. Yeah. I want to hear more.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. So you're curious. So then what do you guys start to discuss? What becomes on the table, off the table? So he, this is, his idea was like, okay, why don't we go to this nude beach? So we lived near a pretty popular nude beach. Let's just kind of see how comfortable you are.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So at first I remember going there the very first time and being like sat down with my full bathing suit. on and okay not I mean a bikini but I was not whipping it off and by within maybe an hour later I was like okay I'll take it off and was by the end of the day was like super comfortable and was like okay I can get behind this that was a lot of fun that was totally out of my comfort zone it was different but it was definitely a turn on yeah and it got me thinking okay what's next yeah okay okay cool So the first thing was like the nude beach. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Now he had hooked up with couples and he had experience a lot. What were you thinking that you were going to be into doing at this point? Did you even know? No, I didn't. I mean, I really took it like case by case situation by situation. But now that we've been in it for so long and meeting other newer couples and hearing like how they got into it and they have rules and soft swap. I don't remember ever talking about that. It was basically once we had some of these initial conversations within probably a few weeks,
Starting point is 00:14:23 we had a profile. We were meeting couples. We were full swapping. Wow. That's so bad. Wow. You just dove right in. And here you are 15 years later.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So we know that it works, which is interesting, right? But let's go back to that first time. Now, you're a couple looking to meet other couples. Now, do you want to hook up with the woman? Do you just want to hook up with the guy? I know that you said you didn't really think about it, but did you know what you were like into doing? Not at first, but it didn't take me long. It was pretty much the very first couple that we met.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And thankfully, we met one of the most amazing couples that were awesome about it being my first experience. Very, it was, they were very, they had been in the lifestyle for a long time together. but they were awesome. They were slow. They were they talked us through it and I felt super comfortable with them and it wasn't it was pretty much with that experience that I realized that I was I'm like 100% bisexual and was like loved the girl aspect of it and that's something I never had even in my college years and right no girl crushes no no even thought to yourself like private that you might be down for something like that? No, which is crazy because I love it now.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting. So walk me through that first couple. I mean, you realize when you're there that you're into her, right? Is that what happens? No, it wasn't, it was probably after the first experience. It was more like a true swap with the guy. But we did a little bit of light touching and stuff like that. But it wasn't probably till, and we got.
Starting point is 00:16:11 We played with them for a long time. I mean, several, several times that we all got together. But it wasn't probably till a few times later where it was like her and I would have our own time. And obviously the guys are there. We always did same room. But yeah, it was probably within a month or two that it was more like, okay, I like this. And I was comfortable. At first I was like so scared to go down on a girl.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I'm like, ew. How was it the first time? It was a little, like a little uncomfortable, but hot. And then I was like, yeah, okay, I like this. But what about that first time when you're with them? Before you hook up with the female, like that first time, you're having sex in a room with another couple. Do you do a full swap that first time? What happens that first experience?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. It was a 100% full swap. I mean, like I said, we didn't even talk about soft swap. We were just like, hey, this is what you do. Yeah. So that's what we did. We didn't have rules. We didn't talk about rules.
Starting point is 00:17:22 We didn't know we needed to talk about rules. There was like no, no kissing or anything like that. You weren't afraid. Now, as a woman, that's definitely very vanilla. This is a guy you just met. You're so into him. Or are you afraid that you would be jealous if you saw him with another woman? I mean, did you have any of that, those feelings going down?
Starting point is 00:17:41 on? I wasn't. And I think I've always felt like the whole jealousy thing comes with not being honest. I feel like when I'm there, I was never jealous. I mean, we were dating. It was so new. I mean, he could have been like, okay, I'm, I don't, I don't want to be with you anymore. He could have been like that with someone in the lifestyle or somebody not in the lifestyle. So I never, I never thought about he's going to leave me for this person. or. Because you're like doing it together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Okay. So was it hot seeing him with another woman? Did you enjoy fucking in front of another couple? I don't remember feeling like that compersion at that point. I love it now. Like it's something I really enjoy now is seeing him. But I don't remember feeling that way back then. It was more about me.
Starting point is 00:18:41 and the guy that I'm with separately from like him and her and just having that that new experience, the flirting. But I wasn't, it didn't turn me on. In the beginning. Okay. Does it turn you on now? Totally. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Interesting. Yeah. Yep. And so how quickly or slowly did that change? Do you remember? It was a while. I mean, I don't recall ever really being turned. on by watching him until recently.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Oh, interesting. And this is like so many years later. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But now, and we'll get to now eventually, but we're going to go chronologically. So you're still with that first couple. The more you feel comfortable with them, the more you realize, oh, you want to try girl-on-girl action.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yep. And that's good for you. Yeah. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. Now, did you start playing solo ever, or were you guys always playing with couples? We always played with couples. We always played together.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We did during that first few years, meeting couples going out, meet and greets and dates and things like that. We did end up having like maybe a few threesomes with single girls. One in particular that it was actually his hairdresser. No way. Yeah. I guess he'd tell your hairdresser everything. I mean, how did it wind up that his hairdresser winds up as your unicorn? Well, I guess he was just getting a haircut one day and started telling her about me.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And I don't know, he must have got the vibe from her that she would be down for it. And he's, he's pretty blunt. He's not like a person that's ever shy to say what he's thinking or feeling. And he just flat out asked her, he's, hey, would you be up for like hanging out with us? And Amber's into girls. And she was like, yeah, let's do it. Oh, my God. How was that experience?
Starting point is 00:20:40 It was great. We had a couple experiences with her. I would say maybe three or four. And then she was kind of a man hater. She had been hurt. Yeah. She'd been hurt in a past relationship. And she started reaching out directly to me and saying, hey, let's hang out, like, outside
Starting point is 00:21:00 of him. And I was fine with it. I was like, okay, like girls night, whatever. I'm down for that. And it turned out that she was really just like looking to pull me away. You don't need a guy. You don't need a man. Oh, God. Yeah. And you don't need the drama. Yeah. I'm like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Wait, so isn't there a time that you actually break up and then you become a unicorn? Speaking of unicorn? Yeah. When does that happen? So a few years later, we ended up breaking up. He had an opportunity that was going to pull him out of state. And ideally we were like, I was thinking of relocating with him. And it just didn't work. out. So we were long distance for a little bit. And just it was just like at a that crucial point of, are we going to make this work long distance? It was it was kind of a mess. We had decided to split off. And so we had the the couple's account on the lifestyle website. So I just flipped that to a single female. And I thought, you know what? I'm really not looking to like date a guy, try to go back out
Starting point is 00:22:05 in the dating world. So let me try this. Yeah. And I did. And so I, I basically was a single female and had, I don't know, maybe three or four experiences. It wasn't that long. I think we were only broken up for three months. Oh, my God. And you had that many experiences? Yeah. Look at how much action a unicorn can get in that short of a time.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yes. Yeah, it was, I could have probably gone out every single night. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so funny. And so what kind of couples did you hook up with? And how are those experiences for you? some of them were actually couples that him and i had met whether at like bars or events or things
Starting point is 00:22:49 and so people i felt comfortable with some of them were were newer couples that i just met on the site we just go out to a bar in most cases go back to their place and have three some most of the women were bisexual so it worked out i was into that and yeah that was it was it and just go off to my job the next day and go back to my day-to-day life. And you're like in a conservative, I think you mentioned that. Like you work in a very conservative, what would you say, profession? And nobody knows about what you do, right? Any of your girlfriends?
Starting point is 00:23:28 No one? One, which she comes into play later. Oh, okay. We'll get to her. Okay, so let's go. So now how long are you guys apart for? we're I mean maybe three months oh that's it yeah okay so what happens you wind up moving yeah he's like just move here I'm just this is enough enough yeah like I don't want to be a part
Starting point is 00:23:50 how old was he by the way you're in your 20s how old was he at the time well actually we were when when I met him we were 30 oh we're both we're both the same age and so we're like what 32 33 at this point okay perfect so you move to where he is you relocate mm-hmm Yeah. And yeah, so we, it's hard when you move because you have to kind of build up a network and figure out like the new city and what events are things that they have going on in the lifestyle. And sometimes it's like a brand new website because some of them are popular in some areas. And so it was kind of reestablishing ourselves in that lifestyle. We just got right back into it. But it was definitely a lot slower. And I would say. harder to meet like some quality couples and in your new location you mean yeah oh interesting okay but did you are you still there now yes okay but eventually you something happens because i know you have so many more experiences to talk about you you have trouble sort of getting involved when your guys are there but eventually do you like start branching out and doing like parties and stuff like that is
Starting point is 00:25:02 that when that happens well no because it we we just couldn't find our groove like we like We just couldn't find like the core group of people. We couldn't find the party scene. It was it was kind of slow and it was probably just two with our jobs and in life and things. So we met some couples. I mean, we had some experiences, maybe five or six over two years. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't really what we were used to. It was pretty, pretty slow during that time.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And then we ended up, we got married. So it was within that time frame. We got married and just life got in the way. And I got pregnant. So it was a longer break than we intended, obviously. Yeah. So fast forward to after my child was born, we ended up kind of hanging out with some of those other couples that we had met years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:58 But it was pretty boring. It wasn't really anything. It wasn't until probably a year ago. that we kicked life back into gear. And how did you do that? What was the key to getting more action? Because you didn't move, right? You said you're like still in that same lame area,
Starting point is 00:26:16 but somehow like how did you kick into action? Yeah, we just literally, we made it a priority. And I'll, you know, when you actually go and really look for stuff, you can find it. It's out there. They're out there. So fast forward to probably about 18 months ago, we finally said, actually my husband came and said, hey, like we got to put our marriage first.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And we've always enjoyed this. And I was actually listening to some podcasts. And I don't remember which podcast it was, but one of the hosts that they came up with a bucket list. And so I said, well, listen, why don't we do this? Let's create our bucket list. I'll create one, you create one. and let's start crossing some of those things off of our list. And so it was literally, I don't know what happened, but lit a fire under both of us. And we had those, made our lists and shared those lists. And just the last 18 months have just been checking it off. Well, why don't you tell me what was on the list first and then you could go into like the specific stories?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Because I know that you've done a lot more than you used to do in the past, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we had always wanted to go to a lifestyle resort, the all-inclusive lifestyle resorts, but we really never knew anything about them. So we said, okay, that was one thing we wanted to do. And then just like we wanted to maybe find like a girl for a threesome. Go on lifestyle vacation.
Starting point is 00:27:52 My husband wanted to have sex with somebody like in a room and have me kind of walk in. Oh, interesting. Like a cheating, like a cheating fantasy? Yeah, I guess, or like a getting caught type of thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cheating. Yeah. And then not having sex in the same room.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So we'd never done a separate room. Yeah, never done separate room. So, and then my husband also loves like anything with the butt. And I don't, I don't love. You know, but play. Anything really. So he wants to do that. That's on there.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He wants to try to make me squirt, which I have not also been able to do. Oh, join the club. That's me too. I have a good, I have a Susan Bratton coming on her episode. It's going to air very soon talking all about how to fucking squirt. So anyway, go on. Yeah. So going to like a swingers club like out of state. Yeah. Where we live is they're not worth. There's nothing here. And they're like hotel takeovers. I wanted to get body painted and go out and be in a party or be to public. thing with just body paint. We wanted to meet a couple or have fun on a boat, on our boat. You got very specific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I think that that's smart. I think that's what it takes sometime. Yeah. A threesome with a guy because we've also never done that. Oh, interesting. Okay. Because you're always what couples? Couples, yeah, or single female, which my husband is straight, 100% straight.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So it would just be for me. We've had some play where like the girl is like, oh, I need to go to the restroom and she's gone for 10 minutes, but like a legitimate threesome with a guy. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So that's pretty much it. So let's go through like the history of the past 18 months. Like what did you guys try first and what went down? Because it sounds like now you're really getting into the lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I mean, it sounds like you guys were super open before, but now you're really going to on vacations to. parties to hotel takeovers. I know you wind up in orgies and all kinds of things. So what did you check off first? So actually the story about my vanilla friend. Oh, yeah. I was into play first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:16 So she does not live in my state. She lives where we used to live. And randomly, we were traveling back there just to visit. And it was just a long weekend. And so I said to her, hey, let's do something. Let's figure it out. We're in town. And so she says, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And so she's, I would say at this point, like, I knew she was a little wild, but like, I had no idea. And she had also no idea about my past. Oh, how interesting. And you guys were friends for a long time? Yeah. Yeah. We've been friends for several years.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So we, like, we're always saying kind of like sexual things to one another. And but totally joking. And so she creates this group text between her, myself, my husband, and another friend that was going to hang out with us. And girl or guy? It was a girl. So there's, it was going to be three girls and my husband going to this event. And we were going to take one of those little commuter trains and go in the city and go to this event and just whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Have a, have a good time. And so she calls it like the gang bang train or something. she like creates a title for the text. And so, and it's all a joke. And she's single. So she was saying like, oh, I need to get some dick. And then she says, oh, sorry. I forgot you were on this text chain.
Starting point is 00:31:43 My husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like jokingly like, oh, I can help you with that. So. And again, she doesn't know my lifestyle. So I'm like, it's all a joke. Yeah. And you're not going to a lifestyle event.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like this event that you're going to is like a vanilla event. Yeah. Oh, 100%. Okay, cool. So we go, we get there. We're drinking. We're having a good time. We are taking the train back home and we get back into our car. And it was like, it was like 8 o'clock at night. It was like an all day event. And we're like, yeah, you guys want to go get some dinner and we're just in the car talking. And then she says, yeah, we could go pick up something and just go back to my place and fuck. Wow. And no kidding, my jaw about hit the floor in the car. I could imagine. And I look back and she's dead serious. Now is your friend hot?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Can you paint a little bit of a picture here? Yeah. So before this happens, my husband was like, oh my God, I want to fuck her so bad. And you guys could talk to each other like that because you guys roll like that, right? That's totally cool for your guy to tell you. I think that's so how refreshing to be in a relationship. like that where you don't have to fucking care about shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So I'm like, yo, it's never going to happen. Get over it. Like, it's never going to happen. Because I'm thinking, there's no way that this nice, respectable person is going to have sex with her best friend's husband. This message is brought to you by avocado mattress. And if healthy, comfortable sleep matters to you, this is one organic brand worth knowing.
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Starting point is 00:34:32 She goes, don't make it weird. I like your friend. She knows how to cut to the chase. She's awesome. Yeah. She is an awesome human. But so I was like, kind of, okay, also you still don't know my lifestyle, but you're, you've assumed enough to where you think this is okay, which it totally is.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So I was like, yep, let's just do that. that. So we literally picked up a pizza. We went back to her apartment and her son wasn't there. So it was just as an empty place. And it was literally the most spontaneous, one of the craziest nights that we have ever had as a couple. And he fucked all three of us. Right. Because there's another woman there, right? This other friend is just like on board. Did you ever find out afterwards if like this, her and that other girl had hooked up before? Or was this something that she proposed to everybody as a new thing? Well, actually, I found out after the fact that she had also had three-sums with this girl and her boyfriend. Oh, okay. So she had, this girl was in the no kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Okay, cool. So you go back. Now, was the other girl hot too? Yes. Like, I mean, won the jackpot on that one. Scale of one to ten. People like to paint. When I say paint a picture, like, do they have hot bodies?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Are they your type? I mean, what is your type when it comes to women? Yes, they're both, I mean, I would say they're both tens. Yeah. Different body types. So my friend is really into fitness. Her body is very, like, tight, muscular. And her friend is one of those just unnatural, doesn't have to ever work out, just like curvy, a little bit like softer, but, but just thin in her midsection, big boobs.
Starting point is 00:36:24 We all had fake boobs, so there's... Lots of big kids all around. Her ass was perfect. It's not just gorgeous. And by now, we're all early 40s. So babies and kids and whatever. But yeah, beautiful bodies. So.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Okay. So now, so you go back to the house. I mean, your guy is there now with three women. And how, so you just said it just happened very naturally. Who made the first move? Yeah. So we were hungry because we had really eaten the whole day. We were drinking.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And so we like all stood around the table, probably ate one piece of pizza. And I don't remember because I've been drinking so much. I got exactly how it started. But my husband and my friend, they started like kissing and making out. And then me and the other girl just started kissing. touching and we ended up kind of moving to the living room where her and I are going at it. And then he's going at it with my friend. And next thing you know, he's like, from bending her over. It's like it's on. It's full on. So at one point I do remember he came over,
Starting point is 00:37:46 took a break from her. He came over. And then he just started fucking the other girl while she was like eating me out. So I do. remember that we took a couple breaks so i think it was he was getting pretty tired so we took a couple breaks and just like got water and but then we'd go right back into i remember one time i was in the kitchen at this point he's i think i was like yeah you need to fuck me now because i don't think he had done that yet he starts fucking me but he's just like reaching over and fingering my friend and like the toys came out. So everyone's got playing with toys.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And you're with both girls too, right? Like you're hooking up with them as well? Yeah, I was definitely hugging up with the other girl more than my friend. But I do remember there was definitely a lot of the four of us altogether. Yeah. I mean, how fun was that for your guy? Was he like, oh my God, that was the best night ever? I think that was the best night of his life.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I literally think, yeah. I mean, and he fucked all of them. I mean, there's no rules. Everything's, everything's down. Yeah. Yeah. Anyone give him anal since you don't? No.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Okay. No. I don't think so. I don't remember, but my friend actually, so I'm, I definitely like sex a little more sensual. I'm not like, don't, I don't need to be pounded. Yeah. But my friend, like, wants to be freaking pounded.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And so I just remember her like harder, harder, harder. And the next day he was like, my, his hips were sore from just pounding her. I think I'm bruised. Oh my God. Did you guys talk afterwards you and your friend? Are you still friends with her to this day? And did it ever happen again? Answer all those questions.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. So yeah, we talk, her and I talk like almost every day. But it really opened up like I could finally. be like, oh my gosh, finally I can tell somebody about my life. Oh, yeah. Because now it's not just about her knowing that you did this with her. It's like now you could tell her everything that you do. Now you have a girl that you can like rap to and about the real shit that's going on your life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. So she, yeah, so if I'm going to a party or we're going when we went on our lifestyle vacation or whatever the case may be, like I'll send her photos. I'll send her
Starting point is 00:40:13 pictures. She, she knows everything. And she's like, how was the party last night? And I just tell her everything. Have you ever hooked up with her again? We have not. We should so we don't live in the same city and I don't, I think I saw her one other time since then. I was visiting and, but yeah, no, we, we didn't, we wouldn't, it wouldn't be a thing between her and I. Yeah, yeah. I get it. So it would be more to him. But I've, I've offered, I joke with her all the time and I'm like, hey, you got to get some dick. You want me to send my husband over? Could you be down for that, right?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, I wouldn't care. I mean, you have started to do some solo play, correct? Or like different room kind of sex thing? Yeah, so that's the other thing. So that was kind of the first thing that happened once we kind of set our minds into full gear. We're going full gear, going back into it. So that just happened to be totally unexpected, but the first
Starting point is 00:41:13 chronological fun thing we had. After that, we ended up joining, it's like a membership group, but it's basically just like you get invited to the house parties. So you go through kind of a screening process and they accept you into the group and then you can buy tickets and go to these house parties. So that was the next thing we did was we got in this group. We started going to these house parties, meeting couples, having the Again, this is where like the orgies and all the crazy wild things that have happened in the last year.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah. Happened to these parties. So yeah, tell me about some of those experiences. So they are, it's hit or miss. Like some nights it's wild and crazy and other nights. It's just hanging out, maybe getting naked in the hot tub, maybe playing around, kissing, casual, and that's it. and sometimes it's an eight person orgy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So we've gone to maybe, I don't know, eight, eight or so parties in the last year. So there may be like once every other month or once a month. And yeah, they're just, there's just a lot of fun. The people are just super cool. We've met so many awesome friends. We've kind of branched off with some friends and then we can kind of get together outside of these parties. But they're really well done, hosted at these, you know, really nice houses.
Starting point is 00:42:41 big rooms, all the rooms are set up as playrooms. So everybody kind of gets there, mingles a little bit, has a couple drinks. And then by 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, breaking off to different rooms. I'm doing your thing. How do they vet people? Like when you had to sign up for that, I mean, did you have to send pictures? I mean, what is that process like? Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:43:03 So, yeah, we had to do like an interview, like a Zoom interview. So crazy. see like we actually the couple who hosts these we we met them like 10 years ago we met them when we first started like when we were first moved to the city we went to meet and greet yeah and at the time they were like hosting these meet and greets so we met them but we never really realized that their their business kind of evolved into these house parties so when we got back into it we're like oh my gosh yeah that's the same it's the same couple so yeah so we had we had on the interview and I think they're looking for it's not I don't think everyone's gorgeous and by any
Starting point is 00:43:46 means it's a lot of different types types of people and but everyone's probably within the same age rangeish so it's a good mix of people just quality quality people yeah I've heard that like different places role in different ways depending yeah but so you did have to though do an interview so now is that where you started to do well first of all Tell me how the orgies were. Like, was that super fun? I mean, because you had never done stuff like that before. Yeah, we, I didn't know if that was something I would really like just because
Starting point is 00:44:18 it's the person that I potentially like never talk to. And then all of a sudden. Yeah, going down on something. And I'm like, wait, what's your name? I was like, I don't know if that's my thing. But, but I think with this group so far, it's been the people have just been quality. So it's been fun. So we've had a couple experiences where you just walk into a room and you see somebody
Starting point is 00:44:39 They call you over and like, hey, come here. And you kind of start playing with them. And then they pull another couple over. And everyone just kind of starts playing. And next thing, there's eight of us kind of all together. And everyone's kind of being passed around, so to speak. And so one of the more fun ones was a pretty cool group of people and started like making out with the one guy and playing with him a little bit. and then like kind of got pulled a little bit by another guy and he started we started making out and
Starting point is 00:45:14 going down on each other and having sex and then I just remember my husband was like having sex with the one wife and then we all kind of just took a quick break to watch and then he swaps with the other guy and so yeah it was it was a lot of fun so it turned out that you did kind of like it but and it was something that you didn't know and now do you go I know that you have another um vacation plan so it means that you must have went on one already. Did you wind up going to the Lifestyle Resort? Yeah, we did. We booked that. Went last year. It was so much fun. We just had an absolute blast. Which one did you go to? We went to Desire. It was so much fun. We booked the second one. We're going in a few months. Now, did you hook up with a lot of people while you
Starting point is 00:46:03 were there? What kind of action did you get while on that vacation? Yeah. We're going. We're We did. We actually hooked up with a different couple every night. Oh, my gosh, you guys. I feel like that sounds really bad to say. No, not at all. I was hoping for that answer. So that's my audience, I'm sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Seriously, there was that many hot people or people that you were attracted to. I think that's great. Yeah, we, yeah, the first day, like, we had met this group that we just kind of started talking to. And by the end of the night, there was this, this, they were kind of younger than us. Mm-hmm. And it's super hot. We ended up, you just, hey, let's go back.
Starting point is 00:46:40 We're not really, like, big into playing, like, in the playrooms at that type of an event or a lifestyle club or anything. So we just go back to our room. And so we played with them. And so new people come every day. So people leave. People come. So I think they were leaving the next day, I think. And so we kind of hanging out in the pool and just kind of met another group of people and started really kind of chatting with them.
Starting point is 00:47:06 that is actually when I got body painted. Oh, so you've got to check that off your list too. Yeah. What was that like a theme night that they had there or something? Yeah. It was like a 70s theme and I was like, there's no hot 70s outfit. So they have a body painter that you can book directly. It's not with the resort, but they come to the resort and they'll do it right in your room.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Oh, wow. So she ended up one of the girls that from the couples that we met, she did it with me. So we basically went to our room and lay you down on a towel. And it takes a long time. I mean, they do a really good job. How did you look? Was it really cool? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was pretty cool. So, yeah, so her and I both got body painted and then we went out, went to the club. And so it was a lot of fun. It was glad I got to check that. Is that woman a part of the couple that you wound up taking back that night? Yep. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:03 With body paint on? Yeah, so the first thing we had to do was all we had to all take a shower. Yeah, I can imagine. Because we had to get all that body paint off of us. Yeah, it would be on everybody. So you hooked up. So how many days were you there? I'm trying to count how many couples you fucked.
Starting point is 00:48:17 So we were there, I think, four nights. Okay. So in a different couple every night. Yeah. Yeah, fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. We're going to go five nights this time, this next go around. So we were like we could have had one more night.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Well, you guys are making up for lost time. I mean, once you decided. to really focus on it. You're doing, you're really, it sounds like you're checking everything off the box. I know you did have some solo play. Yeah, we did. That ended up being a lifestyle gone wrong. Yeah, I love those stories.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Let's tell that one. I mean, because listen, this is real life and nothing is perfect. A lot of these stories sound super hot. But what happened in that situation? So we ended up meeting a couple. We just, it was one of those like date nights on the, the website. We met a couple. They happened to be in from out of towns. They didn't live in the city where we live. And so we meet up with them. And we have always had on our on our profile that we do
Starting point is 00:49:17 not play. We generally don't play on the first night. I don't know why we have that on there. We don't have that on there anymore. It was something that we probably had on from years ago and just never changed. So we meet this couple. And then we find out later that they're like, well, we didn't suggest anything because you guys had that on your profile, but we're like, oh, shit. Okay, but whatever. Because we really, really liked them. We had a good chemistry where, like, they were attractive. And so we thought, well, that sucks because they don't live here, but they travel here
Starting point is 00:49:50 quite a bit. So we'll, we'll figure out another time. So we ended up talking with them, giving each other cell phone numbers and having their group chats. And we ended up coordinating a time where we would meet them in a different city, like kind of in the middle. So we would, they have a house in another city and we'd go meet with them. And so we did. So we like literally got on an airplane and flew really quick one night, overnight and met up with them.
Starting point is 00:50:19 We played. It was the first time we ever did separate rooms, which we ended up deciding we liked that. We were okay with that. I like both. Like I like a little bit of separate. but then come back together. Yeah. Because I like the, I like everybody together.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I think that's my favorite. So we do that. We ended up kind of becoming really good friends. And we booked a time where they were going to come back to our house and stay the weekend. And that was a lot of fun. And then we, we were actually going to Key West and just said, hey, you guys want to come along. And they're kind of like spontaneous. And they're like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:59 So they ended up coming. And we went to Key West together. All good. All good. Kind of was a little bit. There was something underlying, though, that my husband and I were both like, eh. What do you mean? Something's not right.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Like, the wife seemed to really, really like my husband, which was okay. But it was getting a little bit too much for him. He was like, she's texting me all the time. He's busy with work. He's not a big text. like anyway. So I just feel bad if I don't respond. And then when I respond, it's just constant. And so it just kind of felt like it was getting a little bit much. Yeah. We should have just pulled the plug then. We should have just kind of said, hey, we like you guys, but it's just a little too
Starting point is 00:51:48 much. And it was a lot for me too because she did the same thing with me texting me like every morning. Like every morning. Like good morning. Hope you have a great day. And I'm like, my God. I don't have time for this. No. So we didn't and in hindsight we should have, but we ended up at that time also talking about solo play and would we be okay with that? And we both kind of said we would if it was a couple that we kind of knew and trusted and so. Oh, so this is more than solo play what you did in the beginning with them. Solo play the first time was just like in another room but you're in the same location. Is this kind of solo play that you're talking about now going to be like, just not even in the same place as the other person?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah. Okay. So my husband says, hey, what if he was traveling for work? So he's like, what if I met her? Like, because we had now again known them for like several months. Yeah. What if I'm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So I'm like, okay, I know she's married. Like she's not like her husband, whatever. I don't care. That wasn't. So I said, yeah, I mean, I'd be okay with that. So as the time got. So they. booked, they scheduled this time. So as it got closer, she was going to have to drive two hours
Starting point is 00:53:05 to where he was. So as the time got closer, I was like, okay, but man, she's going to drive two hours for an hour. Right. Get fucked and then drive two more, two hours. Like, I wouldn't do that, but okay. I mean, I, again, should have said something, but I didn't. Yeah. I think he was feeling the same thing of, okay, how's this all going to work logistically, like now that it's planned. So, So the day comes, she drives, she gets there. They do their thing, no big deal. But her husband's texting me. And he's like, hey, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:53:40 And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. No big deal. So I'm thinking like my husband's going to call me in an hour or two, whatever. At the same time, I'm like, it's rude to kick her out. She just drove two hours. That's really rude. So don't do that. So I'm kind of going back and forth in my head of what do I want here?
Starting point is 00:53:57 it's not fair to her well so i texted him i said hey how's it going and he's like oh it's fine where we just ran to the grocery store to grab some like stuff to make for dinner and i'm like okay so then now i'm like okay so but in the meantime her husband's like texting me like kind of leading questions and then starts to tell me that he actually ended up having a solo a solo date which she freaked out over and she actually called him while he was like take had taken this woman to dinner and was like you need to come home now i'm not okay with this so he's telling me this and i'm like whoa like i thought they were this was like something they do that they had told us like yeah they they do this this is cool with them so i'm like okay no big deal whatever so finally she leaves my husband calls me and i'm
Starting point is 00:54:51 like so how to go whatever and he's and then so he's telling me all about it And he said to me, yeah, she said something that made me really uncomfortable. And I'm like, what? She said, well, I like you more than I should. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. And I'm like, okay. So he's like, yeah, I just, man, I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I just really wanted her to leave. I really wanted that hot sex experience, but then I really wanted her to leave. And I'm like, I know, but what are you going to do? She was, she drove two hours and it was just a bad experience. we should have never done it. Yeah. And unfortunately, it ruined our friendship because I tried, I needed to think through the situation and I needed to process everything.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. And she was just constantly, you know, hey, are you mad? Or is everything okay pressing? And I'm like, I just need, I just needed some time. I just need to think through. I'm not mad at her. She didn't do anything wrong. But I just needed to process the situation.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And she just kept pushing and pushing. And then finally, they had actually wanted to come to one of the parties that we belong to. And so it was right at the exact same time where they had their Zoom meeting scheduled to get accepted into this group. And so she's, well, can we still come to this party? And I was like, I'm not even thinking about that. That's the last thing on my mind. Can I just get through my head right now? this drama because it's like drama at this point.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. And so they went through with the interview, got accepted into the group, and basically bought tickets to the party that was going to be in a week. And so her text to me was just like, well, we're going to the party. You could do whatever you want, but we'll be there. Yeah, yeah, pretty much we didn't want this to happen. We love you guys, but we're going to party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:51 So I was like, fine. That's when I was just like, all right, I'm done. Did you guys go to the party? Yeah. So they went to the party. It was super awkward. We were there. We kind of did our own thing.
Starting point is 00:57:04 We're with our friends. They were there and we just tried to stay on the opposite sides of the house. And it was it. That was it. Now, did she ever tell her husband that she was into your husband? Do you think it was like a revenge thing that she was doing because of what happened with her guy? She kind of did not. Because I told her like what made him uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And she was like, oh, I don't. didn't mean it like that. So I don't know whether or not she. And I had thought about texting or calling her husband, but I'm like, you know what? That's not my place. Right. So I'm not going to get in the middle of it and cause issues. It's up to her. So I did tell her that and she's like, oh, that's not what I meant. But I'm like, you know. What did she say that she meant? I don't, I don't know. I think I like fucking you a lot. Like, no, I've gotten into you like that. It's just fucking you. Like complimenting him, kind of.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. But you had feelings anyway before she said that, right? That things were like, she was like crossing boundaries or lines. Like when you get an uneasy feeling from somebody about what they're doing, like you just have to trust that you were feeling uneasy for a reason, right? Like she wasn't, she wasn't doing things the way you're supposed to do things or else you guys would have felt comfortable. You guys are professionals.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You've done this a million times. You know what I mean? Yeah. You just got to go with your gut. Yeah, you do. All that texting and that weird shit and stuff. Like those were all, like you said, warning signs. You knew something was going on weird.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And she was probably lying about how she felt. She was doing something sneaky. Yeah. So we haven't seen them since. I mean, I've thought about reaching out and just being like, hey, because I don't, I'm not mad at her. Like it is what it is. I mean, for her to come there, it was a mutual idea. Everybody agreed to it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 That's not her fault. I think we would have ended up in the same place regardless of the solo play. Right. Eventually. But yeah. But yeah, I think in the future, I mean, we both be open to solo play with, again, a couple that maybe we felt comfortable with. We both knew. We might be open for that in the future, but I think it'd have to be local to where there's not this feeling of this person has to stay and make dinner together.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, there's all this other kinds of responsibilities that you're doing. not looking for, like you said. Your husband wasn't, isn't a douchebag. He's not like, oh, hit it and quit it, asshole, but he didn't want to have to deal with other stuff. And in that world, that's not what it's about. He feels bad, right? This girl came all the way there to fuck him, but in this lifestyle, I mean, that's what it's about. There's no sleeping over or hanging out, watching a movie. And now he has to feel weird about it because there's all this other weird shit going down. It's not cool. Yeah. So, and it's like, listen, it's not like the problem was you couldn't handle it or your husband could. And it really was, it really was a,
Starting point is 00:59:52 an issue with the couple. It wasn't an issue with solo play or separate solo play. What other stuff is on your list? Is there anything on your list that you haven't tried yet that you're into? I mean, it sounds like you guys are fully invested now. You've kind of been there, done that. Is there anything left on that fuck it list that you haven't done yet that you're setting out to do? No. In fact, I actually, I actually said we have to pull the list back up and we have to the things we've done and we've got to add to it or figure out what else we, we, we, want to do because we yeah we haven't I mean we the good thing is is we've got now we've got like a network of people so we have met like this single girl that we both really like and we had her
Starting point is 01:00:34 over a couple a couple weeks ago and went in the hot tub and played with her and she's super fun and we have like I'm going to a girl's night tonight that's all like ladies in the lifestyle type of thing and so just kind of branching out making more friends so you can have different experiences and yeah who knows what's in your future I mean because you guys are so open listen you went in with no rules you've never had to have any moving forward I mean it's it seems pretty easy since the get-go which I think is great would you say because I mean listen you had vanilla relationships before him but you guys have never been monogamous with each other you always had an open relationship since the get-go do you think that's why you've been married for so long and
Starting point is 01:01:18 successful because plenty of vanilla people divorce before 15 years. You guys have made it a long time. Do you think it's partly because you are so open with each other? I do. I actually think that, and it has nothing to do with the sex, but I think because it's helped us be better communicators. Totally. I just said this on an episode we talked all about. I think the episode with Erica, the girl talk, that the overcommunication that takes place in a successful open relationship. and a lot of the lifestyle couples that are professional, they're successful at it. And they are because they're over communicating all the time about everything.
Starting point is 01:01:54 But then it's all about communication. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's helped us for sure and just talk about other things. And it's just like general life things. It's just made it easier to communicate. Right, because there's like nothing off the table. There's nothing secret.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I mean, you guys are when I think, like you said, it's not just about the sex and that bleeds into everything else. because I think when you could be really open and honest about all of that, then it's really easy to be open and honest about everything. Yeah. And you're just like full transparency. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Crazy that all these people in your life, mostly all of them, except his hairdresser and your friend, have no idea what your guy's key to successes. No. And your marriage. No. And we actually,
Starting point is 01:02:39 I have a group of friends that I've known for a while. I actually met them when I first had my daughter. and we all have kids about the same age. Yeah. So I did a girl's weekend with them this past year, and they're crazy. Like, they got, everybody got naked, and there was just some girls being girls kind of stuff. And one of the girls actually had talked about her interest with her husband. And so I've planted a few seeds of, hey, I can help you out.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I can, if you have questions. And so we actually ended up, she was over. a few months ago and was like, yeah, he keeps bringing this up. And I'm like, listen, let me, like, get involved in this group. Go to this website. Do this. And then they went to their first party in New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 01:03:29 So I guess technically now, two people in my vanilla life know because this was kind of out of the blue kind of came up. But so, yeah, her and her husband went to the party and they had super, so much. fun and like they're getting ready they're bought tickets to the next party next month and so they're they're kind of hooked yeah what a great resource you can be for her because you're been doing this for so long so you could really help people someone else navigate newbies especially so listen amber thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story i i love it my audience is going to love it do you have any picks like anonymous picks you could send me for my patreon yeah i'll find a couple
Starting point is 01:04:11 yeah i send in some hot picks of you for my patreon on and then when your episode airs, it'll be up very soon. I told you females bump everybody else. It'll probably be next Monday. I will give you access to my Discord and you could go in there and chat with all my people. There's over 2,000. I think maybe there's even 2,500 people on there now. So I'll give you guys free access to that once your episode goes up.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Awesome. Great. Yeah. Thanks so much for calling and sharing your story. It's super interesting. Especially like you said, your origin story. I love how it started. It's a little bit different than most couples since you were open from the get-go.
Starting point is 01:04:43 but I love that. It's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, Amber. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true.
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