Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 766- FACT OR FICTION: Brandon is Into Guys, Swinging Solo and Swinging with his Wife and More

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

Brandon is into guys, swinging solo and swinging with his wife and more and he called in to talk all about it. When did he first realize he was into guys? When did he first start going to swingers parties? And, when did he start swinging with his wife? Tune in to hear all the details including how he went to pose as a nude model and how he wound up hooking up with a guy and exactly what went down, the swingers club he would go to when he was younger and exactly what would go down there including the gangbangs he participated In, his hook ups with couples and how and why he wasn’t into playing with the husbands, when and how he told his wife he was into hooking up with guys as well as swinging and how she reacted, their first experience at a domination party and what they saw there, how far they go while attending swingers clubs together, how she’s bi and how they both have a free pass to hook up solo, how he wound up using his free pass to go to an adult bookstore and have his first gloryhole experience as well as to go nude gay beach where he hooked up with a few guys plus get bottomed by a male “Massuese” plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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younger by himself. He had a lot of hooking up with couples and stuff like that. Eventually he met a woman, got married. Turns out she's by. He put it on the table that he was by and that he went to sex parties and swingers clubs and she was down. So the minute they got married, they started going in clubs together. They've only played with each other at clubs. His wife has a free pass to play with girls. He has a free pass for her to play with guys. For him, it's kind of like a don't ask, don't tell. He has played with guys. He talks all about that. He's been to bathhouses, bookstores, nude beaches. He has a story where he blew like three guys on a nude beach. He talks all about that. And then he ends with the story with him getting bottomed by a waxer guy. I don't know.

Guy on guy action sometimes just sounds like straight up porn the way guys look up with each other. It's just so random and fast. And it just fucking happens. Towards the end when he starts, when I start asking him some really hard questions. I'm like, is he fucking telling the truth? I'm not putting this out as a factor fiction, but if towards the end you start to get to feel like, is he telling the truth or not? Let me know in the comment section

because I would say 90% into the episode. I start to think, what the fuck? Are these stories true? I don't know. But I believed him for 90% of the time. So I'm not putting it out as a factor fiction, but I'm interested in what you think of the stories. whether the whole thing is a fucking lie or I don't know.

I don't know. You'll see what I mean when you're listening. But the whole episode is interesting, though. I think you'll believe him like I did 90% of the time. I just feel like towards the end I was a little scratch in my head. And I wonder if you will be too. Comment on YouTube or on my Patreon. Anyway, his story's interesting.

You're going to love it. His name is Brandon. And I'm going to be right back on with Brandon. Hi, Brandon. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good, Kathy. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming on, Brandon.

So listen, this is the short story. Then you're going to tell me the whole story. You are a guy. You were secretly by at one time. And then a guy who, like, you're married, though, and you hook up with guys on the side. And then your wife found out. I think she happens to be by two.

I forget if that was in the email. But she wound up giving you a free pass and that's where you're at now. But you also, I think, included in the email that you did some experimenting with swinging as well when you. you were in college. Is that the short story? Is that correct way to summarize your life? Yeah. So what ended up happening is in college, I was, didn't miss around once with the guy. It was a art, uh, art posing gone, gone awry. I went in there and there was two guys and ended up freezing up when I was totally nude in front of them. And the one guy decided to strip down and, and he had to show me how to pose. And he had the most,

I don't know. He had a very big, big, big dick. And it was impressed me stuck in my mind. And so nothing happened that point. But at that time, I was dating another girl who was a prude. And so that kind of stuck in my head that eroticism did. So the next week, I kind of went over back to his house and to get a picture for him for my wife, not my wife, my girlfriend at the time for Valentine's Day. And I ended up going down for the first time on a guy. And that was my first experience with the guy. And, you know, You would pause that for about 10, 15 years, met my wife. And she, when I met her, she's very adventurous, pretty much younger than me. And she explained to me that she was open to speaking with women as well. So once we got married, I hadn't been playing with men at all. But once we got married in its openness, it kind of like reawakened all this stuff. So now every once in a while, when the opportunity strikes, I kind of go out. and do my thing. She does her thing too, but

not as frequently as I do. But she knows. So she's always known that you were by, too? Yeah, I was one of the things I told her about my first and only experience. Okay, so she didn't ever catch you. I was wrong. She never caught you. It wasn't like you were doing anything secretly behind her back ever. No. Okay, cool. So let's go all the way. But what about the swinging? When did you, were you a swinger in college? Is that you?

Or is that someone else? I was when I, when I joined after college, college for work. I worked for the, what you say, a federal agency. And I would, and I would go to, go to sex parties, sex clubs. Okay, well, we can't go over that. Let's go in chronological order. Let's start with the first experience, which is, it sounds like the first thing you did that was a little out of the box was blow that guy, which is kind of hardcore. It just shows the difference between men and women. Like, a guy will be like, oh, horny for someone and they'll just go over and blow them without any kind of contact. I mean, like, girls don't typically roll like that, but

did, right? So you're like decided to be a nude model for an art class, correct? Correct. And you couldn't get hard during your posing. So some guy who had a really big dick got naked, which is obviously a move on his part. Come on. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. That was I didn't say I didn't get hard for that one. It was just I had never, it took me for shock because I thought I never really paid attention other than porn at that point. No, no, no, not that you didn't get horning for him. You couldn't get hard when you were posing so the guy took his clothes off to show you. That's what you said.

You couldn't perform, right? Oh, yeah, I didn't know how to pose. Oh, okay. You don't want to get hard in those pictures, right? I'm so stupid. Yeah, no, no. But you know what? It was, thinking back of it, it was a setup.

Yeah. There was nothing but him and his friend. And it was kind of erotic because the whole time after that, I saw a dick. I kept looking at it. But unfortunately, being at that point in the early 20s, in my early 20s, I was hard as rocked the whole rest of the time. Oh, my God.

But so they could see you because you're totally naked. So the minute he gets naked, your dick gets hard. So he knows it's on, right? Eventually you're going to be contacting him. Yeah. He had a, he kind of turned me into a size king or queen, whatever we call it. I mean, he was the first one I had. He was pretty long the next time I went over to you.

and I blew him. We actually, he knew what's up and he was drawing me. And then I asked him to measure it. And he was pretty good. I thought like nine inches. Okay, but wait,

let's dial it back for a second because it's kind of a funny story. When you say it was a setup, like did you answer an ad? Like did some, did they put an ad out like looking like artists looking for nude model? Yes. It was. And actually,

because I was trying to, you know, get some money. Yeah. And it was, the ad, in the back of that student paper was for him advertising himself. So when I called up, there's a miscommunication.

And then I think him being a little older than me, kind of put two and two together. And the next thing you set up the whole date, the whole event. Okay, wait a second. I'm confused. But I think you were confused too. So you were confused. You saw an ad for a guy that was saying he will pose for art students, but you thought he was looking for art students to pose for him. You called up and said, I'll fucking get naked for.

you and paint you, but and he was like, okay, but that really wasn't what the ad was for. Is that what you're saying? That is correct. Okay. Okay. That's that clears it up. That's kind of funny. That's weird.

You know what I mean? Who would have known that this kind of confusion would lead you to the first dick in your mouth? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? What are the odds? Maybe subconsciously you were looking for a man that wanted to get naked because that's what he was, that's what he was putting out.

And somehow you went to that ad, advertising. yourself as like, I'll come and get naked for you. And you show up and it's two guys. Yes. Oh, my God. That is correct. Oh, my God. That's so funny.

And then the guy with the huge dick gets naked in front of you. You're turned on, but nothing goes down then, right? Everything's kind of professional. How much do they pay you for that? At the time, for that time, I think it was like $200. That's a lot. Yeah. For that time, yeah, for the 90s, that's a lot for a college kid to take down.

And I think they were expecting more because. When I was leaving, he, yeah, he was paying me, but a big wad of cash. And I think he was trying to like, hey, guess what? You get earned more. I'm like, oh, I don't do pro. Yeah, if anything, you went back for more for free. He didn't even realize he didn't have to pay you. You weren't, you weren't a professional.

It sounds like he kind of was in on this game, right? It kind of was a setup. It's funny. So the whole story's funny to me. So, right, so now you go over to his house the next day because you're looking to get the picture that he drew of you or took of you or whatever to give your girl for a gift? Is that what was the reason why you went to his house? I went back like a week later.

Okay. But now it, did you go back like horny for him knowing that like I'm like or just like hoping that you would also get the pick and some action? Oh, I'm not going to be. I'm like, I knew exactly what I was doing. I went back. I wanted to experiment. So after you saw that big dick, you were like horny for it.

Now, before that time of seeing that guy naked right in front of you, do you have any memories of being interested in guys before that? No. Interesting. So that was like your first time. And I think that could happen, right? You just had no idea. Like you said, you never were looking online.

You never went looking for it. But there he was naked with that big dick and somehow it, like, turned you on. And that was the first moment you realized you were into it. Yeah. I think what I realized I was into it. too it took me a while to digest it and Well just a week, a while. A week, a week, oh, that's all you needed. And then you had a week later, you had a cock in your mouth.

I thought that long. You work fast. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it's a while. Some people, like a while for some people would be like six months a year. Like, you're like one week later, you digested it and you went over for some action. That's kind of ballsy. It's just funny to me.

So you go over and like you say to him, hey, I want to. get some picks and what does he say oh sure come in like how does his dick wind up in your mouth that walk me through that story well i'm sitting there and i made up the whole story i need to draw me again for my my girlfriend this is like a porn this is a good porn yeah almost yeah yeah and uh so i'm sitting there we're making small talk and i think he knew what was what was what was going to happen yeah because he started drawing and then we started talking about how impressed I was, I'm trying to remember this such a long time ago, how impressed I was with the size of it. And, and, and does he do, does he sleep with women and does it fit all that in?

And then I got, I finally got to the balls enough to ask him, can I measure it? Does he, I saw he had a ruler there. And at this point, he was actually hard now. So I was like, soft, he was bigger than my heart on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, so I went and measured it. and we did the usual I guess he liked doing

and he put up his dick next to my dick and hard and kind of rubbed together and I kept looking down and measuring it and we measured each other believe it or not first time and the only time ever did that yeah yeah he was nine inches how much were you? Wait how long how big were you

do you want that I'm telling I think he was nine and very skinny and I was I'm six and and he measured the thickness and I was six by six in circumference. So you were thicker than you. He liked. Oh, yeah.

He liked that. So yeah. So the next time I'm just sitting there stroking his dick and got closer and closer and finally, I tried to get that thing all the way in my mouth, but I couldn't do it. You didn't know how to deep throat yet. I don't know if you know how to now. But did you wind up swallowing? Well, here's the thing.

This is how young I was at it is I was so turned on. Yeah. That he barely touched me and I blew my load. And you know what happened sometimes when guys do that? They're going through some sort of life-changing event. I kind of freaked and took off. Oh, you had like post-nut clarity. There you are.

Like you just fucking came and you got a guy. I understand that. I think everyone understands that. You came and you're like, you're done. And now you're like, what the fuck? So you didn't even finish your blowjob with him. No. But I did go back to him one more time after that.

Okay. And then? Did you finish that time? I was kind of a jerk as a guy at that point. So next time I went there, again, I blew my load and took off. Oh, my God. So you never completed him? No, never did.

Oh, my God. Yeah, but probably thoughts of this little. Was he an older guy? Yeah, he was. I think at that time I was like 22. He was in his 30s. Yeah. So his, like he just jerked off thinking about that whole scenario right after you left.

And I'm sure by the time you got to the curb, he already came as well. Yeah. Yeah, back then, I think, I didn't know what the time. My wife tells me, though, back when you're in college, you were hot. I'm sure he had a lot of stuff, a lot of memories. I'm glad. It was kind of fun being stared at by those two guys and just being hard the whole time. Yeah, it's a very weird position to be put in.

I think a lot of guys will probably never be in that position, but I wonder if more guys were, would they also realize what you realize at that point, which is, wow, I'm kind of into looking at Dick and having guys check me out. Because that really was, like maybe if that didn't happen, maybe you wouldn't have known. It kind of was that guy getting naked in front of you

and having these guys looking at you naked that made you realize you had this thing for dudes, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's not emotionally, and it's not even bodies. It's just, I don't know, I've heard you, it's just dicks. I don't know what it is. Just the dick. I mean, guys are you guys. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Used to blow my mind and I used to argue with people back in the day because they'd be like, I don't like guys, but yeah, but I'm like, there's dicks in your mouth. And a dick is a guy. So I used to have all these arguments until I realized after so many years of doing my show, there are so many guys like you. It's just the sexual. I forget how that doctor guy, Dr. Joe Court explained it, but he did a very good job explaining why there are guys like you that sometimes like to suck a dick and it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean you're gay. It doesn't even mean your by really. It just means sometimes you like to suck a dick. It's just the way the wind blows.

It's kind of, I forget the terms he used, but it was super interesting. But anyway, let's get to the swinging now because that happened after that, right? When do you start going to swingers clubs? Do you do that by yourself? I did it by myself Or sex parties Yeah I did There was a place in Southern California

It was before the internet So I had I was just I didn't I used to frequent the massage parlors But I don't Didn't like it because it was too risky You know what I mean

You get in a bad rating you're screwed So I was at there And I saw this magazine in the back Of the bookstore Back when they had the magazines And it listed all these swing replaces And I got a map the old-fashioned way, found it, and went in there. And it was very interesting place because it was a type of club where the guys had to be naked,

the girls were lingerie, and they proceed from there. So I would go there every other weekend sometimes. And some nights you did good. So other nights you didn't do at all. And what I would do is I did, after what being going there in a couple of years, I did meet like a couple or a lady that I would see there a lot, but never would I see them outside the club. You just would hook up when you guys were there.

Yeah, and we'd call each other. Hey, I'm going to be there tonight and bring my friends. And then I'd be doing that back for a couple of years. It was really fun. When you say bring your friends, were you bringing your guy friends with you, or your girlfriends with you, or were they bringing their friends? They were bringing their friends. Okay.

Was this like a secret life that you were living? Yes. Yeah, because you're doing all. of this kind of stuff that most people don't do in their 20s or maybe they do and nobody talks about it. I've had a lot of guy friends. No guy told me he was going to like sex clubs and, you know, blowing guys on the side. You know, you were hardcore when you were younger and had the balls to go and really do these things, but nobody knew about it. Right. And that like I said, after that, the guy that I first messed around with. Yeah. I didn't touch another guy for almost 15 years.

Right. That's why we switched to the sex parties. So when you're going to the sex parties, just hooking up with women. Right. But did you get off on seeing the guys there as well? Was that a part of it for you? Like if one of my good friends I used to play with all the time, if she had like a big dig, it would be fun to watch and live. So it would be kind of cool.

You mean if her partner, you mean her partner? Right. She hooked up because there's so many guys there. Those girls can go there and they can pull five, six guys a night if they wanted to. Is that the kind of stuff that you would see when you went there? What was going down at those sex clubs you went to? to. Sometimes it was like you'd have a somebody, some lady would have her birthday and then she would go through and asking guys, hey, it's my gang bang. Let's go upstairs. And there'd be an actual line out

the door and her husband just sitting there watching. Yeah. What else? Yeah, it just just, just, good old-fashioned sex there. Would you line up at that gang bang? Would you be down for that? Yes, I would. I would. I go there. Yeah. Just sometimes you just got a, hey, you already paid the money. He might as well have some fun, make some friends. Yeah, listen, I would have been more surprised if you said no. That's what you're there for. How many gangbangs do you think you participated in? Let's see.

I'll say more than 10. Wow. So a lot of crazy things. But no guy hookups when you were there, right? That doesn't go down in sex clubs, right? No, at that point, too, girls, this is the early turn of the century. So girls were still hesitant about hooking up with other girls. As well.

As time went on, it became more and more apparent. Yeah, yeah. How many years were you going to those sex clubs? I'd say about eight years. Wow. And so you had some regular couples that you would play with, but when you would play with them, what was it? Like you were like banging the wife in front of the husband?

Yes. Would he join sometimes too? He would join. There was a couple times when one of the guys would try to join and he was trying to sneak his dick in my mouth. And at that point, I wasn't into it. So I just kind of turned. and away. And after that, I think, yeah, they stopped playing with me because I think that was,

the wife was the bait for me to get with the husband. Yeah, yeah. And why weren't you into him? You just didn't like his dick? Because you do like dick sometimes, but not his. I do. Yeah, you know what? It's just the stage of my life. I was born to the women at that point. And you were getting a lot of women. Now, were you, were you dating that prude girl at that time? Or were you single while you were doing this? No, no. No, we broke up with her. That was the best thing I did. made me made because she was such a prude and you're such an and you're such not approved and you're not approved come on yeah yeah yeah so I was I was free at that point so I was just just enjoying it yeah and what kind of create anything else crazy that you did at those sex parties that you want to talk

about oh yeah I mean other than just playing this show would be vanilla sex that's all that's all I did I mean it was more of quality or quantity at that point for myself Variety Yeah That's pretty much what I was after And I was having a great time Making friends But nothing too great

Actually the one that was kind of crazy You love this is But one of the couples I play with I found out later That the guy was by And kind of wanted to mess around with me Yeah And what happened is

I was We all got together in a four way basically But I was Dane another girl And his the guy that's interested me, his partner was leaning over me, kind of massaging me, jerking me off a little bit from behind. Meanwhile, her guy was banging her so that I think he was getting

off pretending that he was inside of me the whole time. That's kind of weird, but that was an interesting event. Yeah, because listen, I think even to this day, it's still not okay for guys to hook up with guys, even at sex clubs. And so I think that there's a lot of probably that kind of stuff going on. but did you you never saw guy on guy action there no but i do know that it happened but they kept that very quiet and go back to a back room or something but yeah it wasn't like in the big public spaces yeah totally it's weird but true i've heard it a million times okay so now you go through that

period and stuff now did it did it only last eight years because you eventually met the woman that you're married to now once we got married we did actually together start going to parties Okay, and now how did that go down? So now you tell her, like when you meet her, you tell her you've hooked up with guys, she tells you she's hooked up with women. And that's one thing too, it was because she told me about that right before we were supposed to get married a couple of weeks before we were supposed to get married. And I was actually kind of relieved because I felt the energy from her.

And I didn't want to marry her and her and not having experienced that. Okay. And you were like, and then is that when you copped or the fact that you were with guys? Yeah. And how did she react? She was kind of cool about it. Since she's significantly younger than me, she's 15 years younger than me. She was really open to it.

She said, oh, okay. Monchalant, no judgment, nothing, almost casual. Okay. And now when did the sex parties? Let's go to these. I've been going to swinger clubs, sex parties, whatever. When did that come up? Same conversation?

Yes. Same conversation, getting everything out in the open before we got too deep into the relationship. Right. And so she was down and you said, let's go. together and she was down with it. Actually, about two years after we got married, we went to a domination party. Oh, interesting. That was a interesting part.

I was better than the sex quo. It was more intense. Yeah. If you asked me, I got to see a lot of scenes, got to see medical play. You got to see the weird cross. We walked in and the first thing we see, as soon as we get in the door, some guy on that weird cross, that ex-looking thing, he had a whole fist up his ass. was going to melt. So we just looked at each other.

Holy crap. This is ridiculous. The hardcore. Oh, my God. And now, why did you guys choose that one? Was it just like the theme that was going down at that time? Or were you guys into BDSM? It was just an ad we saw.

We knew some casual friends that were going to it. And let's go have a big goof to see how this goes. Yeah. Now, did you guys do anything when you were there? No, we didn't. However, my wife got a proposition by a lady to be part of a scene of nothing but women. And I think it was good for us. We didn't do it because it was just kind of like we weren't prepared.

Yeah. Because we're a brand new, a brand new married couple. We weren't prepared. But it did kick the conversation off later for possibly opening that up. And did you ever start going to Lake Swingers Club and actually hooking up with other people while you were there? The closest we've done is just playing next to other people. You guys having sex in front of other people. Yep.

Yep. Okay. And does that go down a lot? It goes down when we can break away. But yes, it does. And probably about once every couple months. So you guys are kind of like swingers. But for some reason, you're not into either one of you or not into seeing your partner

with anyone else. But what you guys get off on is just playing with each other out in public in front of other people. I told her many of times We go to these clubs and you want to go have fun Go have fun It's just it's like dancing Go just I want my friend to have fun So she's she's aware of that

And I told her my dream is to see her get Get her screwed by a really big dick Yeah I would think you'd be into that But she's not interested in doing that She is but it's kind of like other parts of life Kind of she's such a good lady That other she's her energies are on other parts of life right now. Right. It's time consuming to find that guy, set it all up and everything

and it's just not happening right now. But you think down the line she'd be open to doing it. Yes, she would be. Now, has she hooked up with women while she's been with you? Yes. Uh-huh. So how does that work for her? Does she obviously not doing it at these parties? Does she do it solo as well? She did it with friends that she's done before. So she'll just go hang out and then the next thing, You know, you'll tell me the next day. We fuck last night. Oh, okay.

But she never brings any girls home for you or anything like that. Are you into that whole experience? Have you ever had that with her, like a threesome with a girl, with her with a girl? Not yet. We've talked about it, but not yet. And we've talked about the devil's threesome too. So it's in the talking point, but we just got to make it happen. Yeah, yeah.

How long have you guys been married for? About 15 years. 15 years and it hasn't happened yet. Two bisexual people that go to swingers clubs, all this action going on. And it's never, but you've never. And she fucks these girls, but never even like for your birthday or Valentine's Day, like had a girl in the bed with her at home for you, nothing. I mean, I don't understand.

That's a little weird. Yeah, I know. What's wrong with you guys? That's what I said. I get coordinated for you. You want me to be the middle manager here? You want me to hook that up for you guys? I don't understand.

So what's your fucking problems? We're just moving as a couple and just take it slow. Slow. No, you're not, first of all, the guy who goes and blows a guy after one week of seeing his dick is not taking it. You're not the slow person here. It's your girl. I don't know why she's never brought a girl home for you or why you've never been able to in 15 years make that happen, especially that you go to swingers parties. Does she not want to hook up with a girl in front of you?

I don't get it. You know what? That's a good conversation. I got to bring up. Yeah, and you're talking to get some other feedbacks. I can bring this up to her. But yeah. And in fact, this is like even a couple years ago.

She came out and said, hey, we had a discussion about me being able to play with guys. And she's like, as long as it doesn't take away from emotional stuff, go for it. So that was been off on the table again too for myself. No, I know. We're going to get to you. But I just still can't get past her. You got you're a guy that would love to see her with another girl Correct okay and your girl does hook up with other girls

Yes, she's into women Why is she never hooked up with a woman at a sex club? Yeah, you know what? I think I'm gonna spitball this one I think after the whole lockdown stuff she got a little German move Okay, but you've been going for you've been married 15 years you started swinging two years before I could do the math there's probably about seven years you guys were going to swingers clubs together so forget about COVID that's no excuse why before that all those times that you went to swingers clubs did she never wind up hooking up with women do you guys have some sort of rule of regulation going in that you guys weren't going to hook up with other people when

you were there you know what at those earlier points we did not talk about it it was just we showed up and that things happen if they happened yeah and and and i think that's probably what probably kept us from unlocking that further point we didn't get off on a on the right foot and I should have probably guided her a little bit more since I was a little seasoned at it but I didn't. No, it's just weird that you guys have such weird communication because she's into women, you're into men, you both have free passes, you sleep with dude, she sleeps with girls. I can't get past the fact that you've never seen her with a girl. Like maybe she's uncomfortable like letting you see that part of her because she's, that's a big part of who she is. You say she goes

and she hooks up with girls, she comes home, tells you about it. And you guys go to sex clubs. so there's women all around like you said it's okay for women to be with women in sex clubs now that's a common normal thing but yet she's never been down to do it even though she's into it and so it's like it's weird that she doesn't do that in front of you ever you've brought up that you want to see her with another guy that's never been able to you can't make that happen

I get why that's a harder thing to make happen but it just doesn't make sense that you haven't been able to make the threesome with the girl happen considering your girl is in to girls. Have you ever asked her to for a threesome with a woman? Yeah, I have. And she said she down to it. And another thing is, too, is where we live, there's not a lot of women that she's attracted to. Right. So she doesn't hook up with women that often. No. She's got to have, she's not as, I guess, detach as I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She needs a connection or something. Of course. Yeah, women are different like that. Yeah. Okay, I get it. All right. Let's go to you now.

So let's talk about how it works with you and seeing guys on the side. So like she, when you guys get married, she knows you've been with guys. She's been with women. But there's another thing of you got like it's a whole different thing to say, oh, I've been with other people than to say let's also be with other people while we're married. How did that comment to play in your relationship? it was all due to her having that one experience with after we were married and then we just brought it up and I said hey if you can have women can I have can I go play with the guy and she thought about it for a long time and then she finally said yes it's okay what's a long time to you two hours later about I think a couple a couple weeks okay so she went okay So maybe she doesn't hook up with girls a lot. She hooked up with a girl once,

wound up telling you about it. And you said, hey, since you were able to do that, could I go do that too every now and then? Because you had not, since you've been with her, you had not been with a guy since that time when you were in college. Right. Right. And she said, she came back to you and eventually said, okay.

That's about it. Yeah, because she had most of her experience with women before we got married. I get it now. Yeah, I get it. Okay. She doesn't really hook up with women as much as I was thinking. but she gave you the pass then she eventually decides to give you the pass and so what do you do with that path and does she have any rules about that pass is it like you could do it but i don't want to know about it is she like

you could do it and i want to be there or is she like you could do it and then come home and tell me about it what did you guys agree to right right now it's uh you can do it just don't tell me about it and don't let that stuff interfere with the rest of the house okay so how long after she gives you that free pass do you hook up with your first guy? Actually, I went to, you know, got curious, and I think about a month later, I ended up going to an adult bookstore. And, you know, just in there watching porn and they had the glory hole in there. And somebody poked their dick, and I just kind of like, okay, let's see if this is still fun.

And I went down on him for a little bit, and he pulled out and took off, and that's pretty much it. Did you finish him that time or were you still like coming so quickly after? Because this is the first time you've been with a guy in a long time. No, he actually, I didn't get to finish him because he just pulled out. He just took off. I think he was just trying to edge the whole night. That's some random dude, you know, medium-sized cocked. Just, okay, let's just see how this goes.

And yep, and went there. And then I think after that, I went to a nude beach. And there was the straight part of the beach. there's in the back there's the gay part. And this is probably the last time I did this type of play. But long story short, I ended up blowing three guys at once. You make up for a lost time. Yeah.

And for me, my kink is if they have a bigger dick to me, I, for some reason, I get really turned off. I think it's because we all get wired certain ways. And I think our first experience, tend to create that wiring, whichever way it's going to go. And I think because you saw that first guy that you saw was so much bigger, that was that thing that was so charged that first scenario that that's probably like really imprinted. And like you said, turn you into a size king.

Like that kind of stuff happens. And a lot of times because it's your first experience or such a supercharged experience. And then it plays out forever. That's like what you're into. And that was last time I did public play because when I was leaving that area, that people started running this because they were like police coming. And then they said, and someone said,

if you get caught here, you become a sex offender. I'm like, oh, shit, that's it. Again, that's the rule is laws it doesn't interfere with everything else.

So be smart. So that's the last time I did anything with the bookstores or parks. It's not worth it. Yeah. But walk me through that scenario because this is the difference between men and women again. And I've said this before in my show because I have gay friends and I know what goes down with between guys sometimes. And a lot of times the scenarios are like straight up out of a porn. And if it happened with a woman, it would be like rape.

Like never hear a woman say, oh, I went to a nude beach. Well, maybe on my show you might hear it. But most women don't go to the beach and fuck three guys at one time. But guys do. It's not that big of a deal. It's just crazy how guys roll. It is a different kind of a thing. So, like, how do you wind up blowing three guys at a nude beach?

Everybody was watching these other two guys play, and there's four or five guys there. And I'm sitting there watching too, and I start playing these guys, start playing hands on my butt. And we're all standing together watching this. And then next thing I know, I'm kind of stroking one guy off and another guy, and everybody had a seven, eight-inch dicks.

And I think, okay, I'm going to have some fun and decided to go on my knees and went back and forth between all three of them making sure they didn't touch me because I didn't want to go too quick. So yeah, that was pretty much, that's about it right there. I don't know if you're lying or you're just a bad storyteller, but I don't understand. So do you wind up fucking blowing them to completion this time? I did two of them. What?

The third, I did two of them. The third guy I did not because that's when people started moving around because they thought the cops were, something. Okay, now did you swallow? At that point, I did try to swallow one, but I wasn't used to the taste. Okay, so have you been with guys since? I have been with guys since that. I did try out a bathhouse.

Again, didn't finish the completion, but they'd manage to jerk one guy off. Did have managed hookup, try to hook up with a guy with a beautiful, beautiful dick. But he was, he could not. fit. I was going to try to bottom for the first time, but he could not fit. So that one

had to stop on that one. I did finally get to bottom one time, and that was with the masseuse. And that was a good time. That was very interesting. Where does this masseuse come into play in the story? At what point?

Let's just say, about two years ago. Okay, so how do you find that masseuse? He was a masseuse slash waxer guy. So I was doing the waxing thing just for the clubs and look good. And he was, because usually after my wife said it was okay, I went to play, I used to do female waxers. But now I do the male waxers in case something happens. There's no, I don't feel guilty about it.

And yeah, so he was doing the services and massaging, and he was getting pretty handsy one day. And she started with a nice massage and rolling me off and then slowly making his fingers down. to the taint area, kind of massaging it that way. I'm prepping and started working the fingers in there. And then he asked if I wanted a bottom. I said, okay, I'll try it out. I had a good time when he did. Yeah, but let me ask you this.

Had you ever bottomed yourself? Were you shoving things inside your ass? Did you know that you were into anal? Were you doing anything with your girl? Were you playing by yourself? Yeah, I've been pegged by her once or twice. Mm-hmm. And then, yeah, and then sometimes I do the,

the butt plug when I got some a long time. Mm-hmm. So you were looking to be bottomed. You knew you were a bottom. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. You know the butt.

Yes. And that's what I discovered, too, with him. I actually was able to have a hands-free prostate orgasm, which was pretty cool. That first time. You never experienced that by yourself when you were being paid? No, I did not. Especially with, yeah, because I think the, I think it was just the way the dildos felt they were a little too stiff or rigid. Mm-hmm.

as opposed to a real one. So. Now, did you have to tip that guy extra? Because he fucked you in the ass. I just went back again. That's his tip. I mean, did you know that he, was he like a professional guy like in a shop? Or was he like at his house?

How do you like, how does a guy that's just doing a regular waxing service wind up like banging you? Because listen, I know that massage pallors that guys go do for happy endings. Everyone knows that that's what's going down. I don't know that people are going there just for a regular massage. A regular massage. place are typically pretty legit. Was this like a very legit place or was this like a place that you're like, oh, this might be some of a place I could get action in. Like, how do you know the difference? I would say his advertisements. Where are you finding? Online, of course. But where

online? Oh, I just Googling. I was just Googling mail to Mack services. And they all came up on the Google sheet and looked at his and said, oh, okay. There's a lot of, a lot of interesting art on this. And I went in there and yeah, he was... Where's there? Where was he working? He was working in an office. It wasn't a... It wasn't a house or a garage. It wasn't an office. Huh? Was it with other people working there, too? Or was it his own private place? It was, he could tell us his own private practice.

Okay. And what was so risky about his ads that you knew that this might be a guy that would be doing a little extra stuff? There's a lot of pride flags, a lot of half nude is there on there. just the way the pictures were presented in my estimation. Yeah, this guy is kind of, yeah, he might be a little bit risque. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have to have tipped him. He's not doing that for fun. Isn't he doing that for like money?

I don't know. When you go, isn't that kind of like now you're at like a happy ending place? If he winds up bottoming you, do you have to give him a bigger tip? You don't wind up paying for that? No, I didn't. And I asked him if you wanted to tip, no, because then that would make it professional. Okay. I would make him a professional

And so you wind up going back to him? Yeah, a couple times. And always bottomed and being bottomed by him? Yep, I did. And actually that was the first time I ever had someone Eat my ass out and that was ridiculously good. Now, you don't tell your wife about any of this stuff, right? Did she know that all of this kind of like all of this is on the table if you could hook up with a guy?

Not just blow jobs, right? Yes. But I don't, I don't tell her by, but yes. and do you use protection of course right now is that the only guy you had bang you yes

and when was that so far that was two years ago and yeah ever since then I think as far as as hooking up with guys that was the last one that was the last guy how come we had a kind of a falling out

basically I canceled on him and he tried to charge me full price he kind of got a little weird and so and then I'm going to tried to book with them again, you kept blocking me. So I was like, I'll go find the service somewhere else. But how come you haven't had any guys in two years is really my question, not him? Oh, why? You know what? Again, it's just the season. I'm just busy. Yeah, with other things. Yeah, some of other stuff. And yeah, that's pretty much where we're at right now.

Hopefully we might be going to, me and the wife might be going to Palm Springs or Nevada or Florida this, this summer. So it'll be kind of fun so we can go to a lifestyle resort at that point. Now, do you guys ever have, it just doesn't sound like you guys talk about anything. Do you guys ever have conversations about taking any steps into doing anything more in front of each other? Because it sounds like you both have free passes to go hook up with whoever you want. And you do. She doesn't really, but she has a free pass.

She gave you a free pass. You guys have been to sex parties and you fucked in front of people. But this has been for 15 years. You've never had a conversation. And I know you said you brought up like, hey, would you be? with a guy. You've told her you would love to see her with a girl. But like in 15 years, like how come you guys like never crossed the line and done anything more? Have you had conversations that she doesn't want to or have you had conversations that you want to actually do more and

cross those lines? I do. We've had them. And I think the problem is we've had them usually just part of bedroom play. And sometimes things are said in the moment that each party is not going to take for real just because they're in heat of the moment. I think in the future you bring it up. I think we need to have a sit down somewhere else and have that conversation. And now what about like you play with women? You don't have a free pass for that, right? No.

And she's not interested in seeing you with another woman. She's never brought that up to you. No, I've even polled her about that. She's ambivalent about it. Yeah. And now do you guys still go to sex clubs? Like in the past nine, two years. Right, you haven't been with a guy.

You've only been with your wife. She hasn't really told you about being with any girls. You haven't had threesomes. Have you been going to the swingers clubs in the past two years? Yeah, last time we went was the summer. Okay. And so you just go and you're still just having sex in front of people. Is your wife, like, does she get into that?

Yeah, it is. It's really fun. We have a good time there and pick up all that energy. She kind of boost the whole sex drive. And what happened to last time is, in her opinion, there was no good looking guys there at all. so she's on yeah but she still we still like to pick up that energy so when you do go are you looking for guys for her to hook up with why would she say there's no good it just sounds like you guys go

there just to be with each other it doesn't sound like you've ever gone there looking for other people she's never looking for girls even though she likes them you she wasn't into being with another guy yet she said last time like no good looking guys are do you go to these clubs looking for a guy for her to bang no If it happens, she's a more of a heat in the moment type thing, the lady. So I think when we go, we're there to see whatever happens happens. And most of the time it's for us to play with ourselves, to play with each other. But you guys never communicate ahead of time of let's go there, let's try another guy.

Why would she say there were no hot guys there tonight? Yeah, I was sitting there because me and her, we had that game where we just check out Dix. And then she said, you know, tell me that. So you guys talk about guys' dicks when you're there. Yeah. It's pretty cool. You didn't display that, okay? Yeah.

You're talking about a lot of not communicating. You're not telling me what you actually are talking about. You're not talking about a lot of things that you should be talking about, but you are talking about other guys' dicks when you go to the swingers' club. Yeah. Okay, so that's what you. Do you guys, do you guys talk about chicks too or just guys? Just guys.

Okay. And so how, what are those conversations like? We have to four minutes. Give me, like, what do we? Oh, she's, yeah, she's a lot of times. He'll be sitting there and be like, look at that guy. We make a joke like, oh, because we see him talking to this tiny little girl. And this guy had a baseball bat.

She's like, oh, she's just going to go, like, you split in half or that's a nice, and she will always say that's a nice looking dick. That's pretty much as far as it goes. It's not. But do you give your, but do you give, do you say, oh, yeah, that's fucking hot. I love that big cock. Do you, you know, openly. act like you're into it in front of her?

I would say, I would tell actually one time, yeah, I tell her that's a nice looking thing. I would love to double blowout back with you. And what does she say? But no. She just laughs. And do you, when you guys are like role playing at home and she's pegging you and stuff, like I mean, do you guys like talk about being with other people or,

or are you being by? Like, is she turned on by that at all? Or is it just kind of something that she tolerates because you're into it? I think she just tolerates it. Because it is a don't ask, don't tell. She doesn't want to know about it. Right. I think you tolerate.

But I'll give all the dirty play. I mean, we buy some big bigger dildos and some nights. All she has to do is when she wants a bigger dick, just ask for it. And I'll go give it to her and I'll give her a whole story about it. She just sits there and takes it and enjoys it. But the whole role play scenario is kind of like she's with another guy and you're watching. Correct. And she knows you like guys with bigger dicks.

Yes. And she knows you're into like getting fucked in the ass because she pegs you. Is she into that herself? Does she do that for you? Yeah, she actually thinks it's pretty, she actually thinks it's pretty cool. But I get a little uncomfortable. For some reason, I get a little uncomfortable doing it with her. Not because it's a feel good. I guess it's just being a little vulnerable in front of her. I just don't like, I find out to work out through that. So, yeah. So are you Jones in for guys or what about girls? I mean, you had so much variety. Is it kind of like you're done with the variety because you've had so many women?

I mean, do you ever crave more variety when it comes to women as well, considering you've been with the same woman for 15 years? You know what? I'm a guy. Yes, I do crave it, but there's no, there's no need to. My wife gives me everything I need for it. I know that sounds hokey as I'm still. No, and I think that also, I think also part of your answer would be probably, I would assume,

that you get going to these sex clubs together and Peggy. you guys really keep your sex life interesting. There's a lot of variety in what you guys do together that I think that stuff like that really does help then from feeling the need to go and have variety in real life because it sounds like you guys do a lot of stuff together. I mean, you're thinking about going on a lifestyle vacation. You go to sex clubs every now and then.

She gives you a free pass, so you get to do whatever you want. She pegs you sometimes. I mean, you guys know how to keep it fun, right? oh yeah yeah i said she's she's she's she's my best friend so i just like uh if she said go ahead and have a lady tonight i'd be like okay i'd be the quickest two minutes that i'll have but yes it would happen but i'm not going to go out and fishing for it it's just there's no there's no reason to yeah to fell everything up just because they're getting stupid yeah yeah yeah and plus like she does she's like really cool with you the fact that she's given you that free

pass and she does all this other stuff with you so you can't have me does she know you're calling in? No. Okay, cool. Of course not. I'm a typical guy. Yeah, yeah, I get, I hear you, Brandon. Okay, listen, thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. Towards the end, I was like, is he full of shit? But it's just, I don't know, some of your stories. And the, I'm like, imagine you're making this all up and I believed you 90% of the time, but towards the end, I start to think, oh, I don't know. Let's see what other people say. But listen, if you want to send me in, some guys that send me in anonymous picks of, people on my Patreon are more interested in seeing the of the girls. But what I'll do is I'll give you access to my Discord channel. Once your episode is up,

you could go in there and say you're Brandon from this episode and you could talk to my Patreon members. So you could probably meet some dudes on there if you want. Okay. I'll be posting later. Yeah. Okay, cool. Well, I'm going to give you that link when your episode goes up because I don't want your post to be so far away. I want it to be when people listen to your episode, they go on my Discord and they see you on there right then. You know what I mean? So I'll give you access to my discord when your episode goes up. You'll get free access. Everybody else pays, but you'll be able to post stuff and talk to people over there.

Okay. Okay. That sounds good. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much for calling in, Brandon. All right. Thank you.

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