Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 787 - Mary and her Husband are Into Hotwifing and MMF Threesomes

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

Mary and her husband are into hotwifing and hooking up with other guys and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear how and why when they were going through a rough patch her husband confessed he was into guys and how that changed things up, how she felt about her husband being into guys she. He first told her and why she was so shocked, how and why they both cheated on each other when they were first married and how they got past it, the convos they had about opening up their marriage before they went out looking for guys, the boundaries and rules they had going in, what they were looking for in a guy and how they met their first guy and what exactly went down including giving him mutual head, how she felt about the hook up afterwards, the next guy they met who she had sex with and exactly what went down with him including “the train,” how she felt about being with another guy in front of her husband and how he felt about it as well, their reconnecting sex and how and why it’s so great, the solo date. She had with a guy and what went down and how her husband felt about it, the swinger party they attended and why it wasn’t that great, her and her husbands hook ups with a crossdresser and how and why she was curious about it, the threesome they had with the crossdresser and exactly what went down, how and why opening up their marriage helped it plus a whole lot more. **To see pics of MARY and HER HUSBAND plus anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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alpha guy i have pictures of them they're over my patreon they're he's just as beefy and buff and big and alpha as sean that's her husband joe i have him taped already you're going to hear his episode today you're going to hear the whole story from Mary's perspective. Mary and Joe married a long time, went through some tough times in their marriage. There was a time of infidelity. It's kind of interesting story. You got to hear that. And then they were kind of like at the point in their marriage where they were on autopilot, kids' careers weren't really having sex that much. Their future didn't look that great. They even had conversations about it. She talks about it. But during their anniversary, they took a trip and Joe just, you know, threw something out on the table. And what he told

her was that he was open to being, he was open to being with guys. She explains how that came up in the conversation. There was something that happened in a restaurant that brought that up and then they started talking about it. And Mary wasn't close to the idea. She talks about how, you know, she's the type of person that's, you know, more open and willing to ask questions before she makes any kind of judgments. They did a lot of talking about the fact that he was into guys and was looking to experience it. They talked about it for a bunch of months for a long time. And then they decided to go out and start having threesome with guys. And they did. And they loved it. This is a woman. And I think it's so interesting. This is a woman who never knew she was into gang guy action had no idea whether she'd be into it, but decided to be open to it. And it turns out she loved it. Okay. She like loves giving blowjubs with her husband. She talks about that. She goes through all their different experiences. They've met many different guys, had many different experiences. They did a train. Like I said, she loves doing blow jobs with her husband. She talks about that. She goes through all their different experiences. She goes through. She goes through. She goes through all. She goes through with her guy. She also has been fucked in front of her guy. He loves it. She loves it as well. She's even

seen a guy solo and then went back and told her guy about it. She enjoyed that experience. She gets very detailed about all the experiences and threesomes that they had with guys. Exactly what went down. Everything's typically always on the table. He's with the guy. He's verse. She's down to do anything with the guys as well. So we get all those great details. And then her guy at some point met a cross-dresser. and she was like very curious about the cross-dresser. So she started meeting for coffee with the cross-dresser. And then she met the cross-dresser not dressed. And then she hooked up with the cross-dresser, not dressed.

And then they all had a threesome with the cross-dresser. And the cross-dester was dressed when she was with the guy. And then he wasn't dressed when he was with her. It's so fascinating. That whole dynamic. We end with that story. It's super interesting. I mean, I've talked a lot of cross-dissers, so I understand how they roll.

But to hear the story of a couple hooking a processer. with a cross-dresser and then dealing with the cross-dresser both as like the cross-dresser and the female side of the cross-dresser and the male side is super interesting and how that threesome exactly what went down is super interesting too that's a great episode you're going to love mary's story you're going to love joe's story i have hot picks of them naughty picks over on my patreon you're going to want to see them because joe like like sean is a big burly alpha who likes guys and Mary's a hot wife who loves seeing her guy with a guy and loves having sex with guys in front of her guy. So anyway, if you want to see those pictures, go to my Patreon, patreon.com's a strictly anonymous podcast.

I'm going to be right back on with Mary. Hi, Mary. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm well. How are you doing? Good. Now listen, Mary, this is one of the episodes, one of the kind of episodes I love where I talk to a couple,

but I get the same story from both sides. I already talked to your husband. I don't know who I'm going to air first. Probably you. But you are married to a guy named Joe. He's bisexual. And there was a certain point in your marriage. You guys have been married a long time where he put that on the table with you.

I think you guys were going through a hard time. He kind of copped to that. And it really changed the game. You guys currently have threesomes with guys. He's got a free pass to even go and hook up with guys. And then I know there's this whole interesting cross-dress or twist at the end. But let's go all the way back, Mary. You guys were like a vanilla couple, would you say, married for 20-something years?

Yes, very much so. Very vanilla. Married for a lot of years and had kind of your typical ups and downs in our sexual relationship that wasn't really satisfying. I don't think to either one of us for a long time. We were really busy raising kids and with our careers. And for me, it was just one of those things. that kind of fell to the bottom of the priority list because it wasn't something that I really looked forward to or wasn't that exciting.

So it was just, yeah, it was just having sex. I don't know, maybe once a week, three, four times a month, something like that. But nothing ever like outside the box. Yeah. So do you remember that moment where your husband came to you and told you that he was by? Is that like the conversation that started everything? It really was. We were actually on our 20th.

anniversary trip. We tried to take a trip at least an overnight away every year for our anniversary we were on that trip. And we were in a beautiful place and we had gone to a coffee shop and there was a trans person serving us. And after we'd gotten our coffee and we left and I remember, I'm pretty sure we were back in like our lodge room. And he had basically mentioned that that interested him, that that was something that he was kind of curious about. And I, it kind of caught me off guard. I don't really know where this is going. And it was kind of like out of the blue. Yeah. But I'm a pretty like in general, a pretty curious person. And I'm not one to, I try not to make quick snap judgments. I really do try to take a calmer approach and ask questions. So I, I was like, well, can you tell me more about that? And he basically told me that he had interest in guys. He had that basically opened the door. I asked the question, but he's the, one that stepped through the door and basically laid it all for me and told me that he does have

interest in guys, being sexually with guys, and it's something that he wanted to explore. So it was really huge. And I really, I don't remember, I wasn't like put off by it. I was just like, oh, this is pretty cool. We need to explore this. We need to talk more about this. That's interesting that you thought that. Is it because you weren't happy either, like in your sex life and you were thinking maybe this could spice things up, I don't know, like, why do you think that it was something that was like kind of intriguing as well? Because, yeah, it felt like something new and different. Like it could be something that kind of sparked our relationship back up. And I do remember previous to that, we had sat and had a pretty serious conversation prior to that trip about, like,

we could see ourselves doing that thing that a lot of couples do is just cohabitating, raising children, and being in our career and just drifting apart emotionally and just not and being one of those couples after 25 years is like well there's not really anything left so what are we doing so we'd actually had that conversation so when he brought up something like that I realized he was obviously entrusted me with this information that he didn't think that I was going to be that I was going to fly off the handle about it or anything and so it really did feel like oh like we're getting down to something a little bit deeper than we have before. Yeah, kind of like now there's maybe a new possibility of your guy's future.

Before it didn't look good, right? You kind of knew where you were going to end up. And all of a sudden, it's kind of crazy if you think about it, but it's such an interesting lesson for other people that he just really changed the game by putting something out there, right? It really completely changed it. So now, like, okay, because this is I always think it's super important because I'm always getting calls from guys who are doing shit with guys on the DL and doing stuff behind their

wives' backs. And a lot of times there's a lot of stigma around guy and guy action. And people just think, oh, it means you're gay, even though that's not a bad thing. But some people, for some reason, people think it's terrible. You know, or they think you're less of a ban and stuff. I know, because I already have your guy's pictures. Okay. And I've seen your guy. And I know he's very alpha too. Like, is your guy the type of guy that you would have ever thought was into guys? I mean, was it kind of like shocking to you? very much so yes it was very shocking to me because yeah he is he is very alpha a very manly man a very stocky muscular build does either he's one of those he's an extrovert he takes the lead on

things he's very outgoing um just always been a very strong personality so no not something i would have imagined yeah and what i love and i don't know if he told you about this other couple and if you listen to them but i just had a couple on samantha and sean and you guys are like soulmates couples. You're very similar to Samantha. He's so similar to Sean. I don't know if you saw their pictures. It's same kind of thing.

Big buff dudes. Not the type of guy that you would think. And I think it's important that people know that. I think a lot of times people think, oh, I don't know, a guy that's into guys. Like I said, is less of a man. Here you have another really super alpha guy that just happens to be into guys. It doesn't say, it doesn't change the fact of him being a man. But you were surprised, right?

because I think that we all kind of think that on some level without even knowing it. Yeah, for sure. And through the process, have also come to realize that he's versed. He's not, he's not one or the other and adverse to the other one. He can go both ways with it. Yeah. People are going to hear all the details from Joe. So I think that that's like amazing that he was able to put that on the table.

Like I said before, I'm typically talking to guys that are doing it on the DL. and probably with no plans to ever cop to it because of the fear that their wife sitting across with for them would be like what the fuck. But like you were open. I mean, that's just the person that you are, right? Is that what you said? Yes. I do try to be an open and curious person and ask questions before I, you know, formulate any kind of judgment or response to it. So, yeah, it was, I was really curious in that moment in that initial moment of what.

that looked like and kind of what he had been fantasizing about. Did you worry that he had done something or anything like that? Was that, were there any questions like that? I don't remember thinking that. I don't know whether I asked it in the moment or not, but I don't remember thinking that we had had issues of infidelity early in our marriage that we overcame, but it was with like he had been with other women.

I had been with other men. Like we had infidelity on both of our cars early in our marriage. Did he tell me that? I don't remember. Both of you had cheated. Was it at the same time because you were going through a rough patch or whatever? Or did one person cheating and the other person revenge cheated? No, it wasn't revenge cheating. It did happen around kind of the same, at the same time frames. And it was, it was in that early five to seven years of marriage. You're figuring things out and you're figuring out that it's a lot harder than you had thought that it would be. Yeah, yeah. But then who found out

first? I mean, because it's not, I don't know. Did you both just cop to it? It's like interesting that you both were cheating and then you both found out. But what I just want to hear that story real quick. I just because it's kind of interesting. He was found out first and and then I honestly, I found out that he had been cheating and I had cheated also and I didn't count to it at that point until later on. So it was happening all around that same time. And then it finally came out later that I had cheated too. And it was it was rough. It was very rough in our early marriage. marriage. We were, I will give all the credit to Joe. He was very committed to our relationship. And even in times when I wanted to give up on it, he wasn't willing to. And we did, we persevered and worked through

it. Yeah. Listen, and I think those kinds of situations, if they don't break you up and you're, you are able to overcome them, they do bring you closer because you did go through something together that was really difficult, especially infidelity. Especially like for you. You. You're, like for you, I kind of think it's kind of funny, Mary. Like you found out he cheated and you didn't even give him like, I cheated too. Like you didn't give him that. Like he had to find out way later. He must have been so pissed.

Like, come on. You railed on me for cheating and you had fucking cheated too. Yes. And did it come to it? Oh my God. And yeah, you do got to give him credit for being able to get past that because that's like almost a second betrayal a little bit because that was the perfect time for you to have said something.

I could also see why at that time, like you had a decision. Like you could either say, hey, I cheated too, or you could just point the finger at him. But, you know, that's kind of funny and kind of fucked up. But harder for a little bit harder for him because, like I said, that's a second betrayal. And then years later, but he was able to get past it, hard times, brought you guys closer together. And then here you are so many years later. Joe puts it on the table. Tells you he's into guys.

And now you're on vacation now. So what's the next move? You asked a lot of questions. He explained. you. Did you know if you were into Guy on Guy Action? Had you ever looked at that kind of porn or anything? I had never watched that kind of porn. I was just intrigued by it, I guess. After we were on that trip and he told me about that, we had had probably four or five months of conversation. And after that of what that would look like, what are you interested in? Where do we find people?

Because honestly, one thing we've learned is it's kind of difficult to find. It's not the typical Most couples are looking for another female. Not a lot of couples are looking for males. So we just were very, again, curious and trying to figure out, okay, where do we find people to hook up with. So it was just a lot of conversation and conversation about what are you, specifically, what are you wanting out of these interactions, out of these experiences. So a lot of discussion of that. And then like I said, it wasn't about, I think, five months after that that we had actually met with our first guy. So tell me, though, a little bit about those conversations. How was it going to look? Like, what did you guys decide on and were there any rules or regulations? So yeah, we did talk a lot about boundaries. And initially we had decided that it was going to be, it was going to be us together with another guy that we wanted to do it together. We both wanted to experience it. We both wanted to be involved in it.

So that was the initial boundary. The other one was that we wanted to, whoever we were, we connected with, we wanted to both be messaging with. It wasn't like one of us would set it up and message. And then the other one would just show up. It's that we kind of needed to mutually be on the same page of meeting a particular person. Yeah. And did you find out that you guys had like the same taste in guys?

You know, it's kind of you never know. A little bit. I tend towards kind of like the more like a muscular build like burly kind of I like the way that I described it to Joe was like I kind of want a guy who can pick me up and throw me around. Yeah. So that's kind of what I enjoy. I don't know that Joe necessarily has like a particular. type. We do prefer somebody that is more fit, so to speak. And that's just our preference because we try to stay in good shape ourselves. So I think we have kind of a similar taste in men. I do prefer

somebody that is a little bit taller. And again, it kind of goes back to, I just kind of want somebody to manhandle me at times. Right. And you're not short yourself. So if you're going to be with a guy, you want them to be taller than you. That makes you feel more about the vibe. Yeah, for sure. But Okay, so you go on an app, you put up some picks of yourself, and then you guys go looking for guys. And what are you putting out there? Like, we're a couple looking for a by guy? That's exactly what we're putting out there. Yeah.

And initially, we'd gotten on, like, social media groups to find people that way. And we would message people on those apps. And then we did get on a couple different dating apps for bisexual people and couples. Yeah. What was that like? Did you have a lot of guys emailing you once you put up your app? it didn't feel like an overwhelming response to be honest with you and I think maybe we were being a little bit picky about who we were trying to connect with as well I do remember we messaged with a small handful of guys another thing that was important to us at least early on was that we didn't want to be with somebody that was in a relationship or a marriage that their partner did not know that they were that they were seeking this out so that was important to us that that's kind of a an added layer of difficulty in finding somebody. Typically, when we started messaging them,

we kind of were, we were pretty transparent. And this is what we're looking for. And here are our boundaries. Do you fit that bill initially? And if they did, then we started messaging back and forth. We wouldn't give a ton of personal information, but kind of just let them know what we were looking for, what we were interested in. Here are our boundaries, which we are not necessarily, we don't want any violence necessarily. No, we're not into pee or poop play. We're not into age play either. That's not typically what we get into. So we just wanted to make sure because honestly, there are a lot of people out there that seem to be into age play, like wanted to call us daddy or mommy or whatever. And that's not our thing. So, yeah. So, yeah, we would kind of lay those

things out. And that would, that would determine whether or not we would continue messaging with that person or not. And then, yeah, we would pretty quickly, we moved to sharing pictures back and forth, again, to just see if it was something that everybody was interested in. And then from there, we would decide, do we really want to meet up? Do we want to pursue this? And another kind of, I guess, I don't know whether it's a boundary or not, but another thing we would do was we would always meet somebody in public first and see, make sure that there was, that there was a mutual connection there before we would do anything else. Yeah, for sure. Now, like that first initial hookup with the first guy, what was on the

table as far as like him with the guy going in? I'm pretty sure everything was on the table. I don't remember specifically if we had talked about it. It wasn't just that we wanted oral. It was that we wanted to have sex. Like all three of us wanted to have sex together. and the person that we were with that first time, he said he was closet by. And I, after the experience, I was like, I don't think he was closet by. I really think he's gay and he just doesn't recognize it

because he really didn't want to have much to do with me. He wanted him with Joe. Yeah, yeah, could have been to tell. So let's talk about that first experience. So that first one, we had actually, we'd met him because it was the middle of a Thursday or something like that that we met him. And so I think we met him at a restaurant, if I remember correctly. And then it was close to a hotel that we were planning to go to.

So, yeah, we sat and we just had, I think, a quick drink and a little appetizer or something. And then we moved on to the hotel after that. And so what went down that first time? Like I said, it was pretty awkward. He came in. We were already in the room. He came in. I think we kind of sat down and there was a little couch and, and,

chair area in the room and we talked for a few minutes and then I remember Joe just like getting up and going over to him and starting to take his unzip his pants and take them off and started sucking him and I think the guy was a little taken back by it because of the like forwardness of it but we kind of like took it from there and things went pretty quickly but so how did that feel for you I mean this is the first time you're seeing your guy with a guy where you turned on because I I would assume, maybe I don't know, at that point, you still don't know whether you dig it or not. I was very turned on by it. Yes.

I love watching him with guys. Isn't that so interesting? You were a woman that had never even seen guy on guy porn. It wasn't anything that you had ever thought about. And here you are now seeing your guy with another guy that turned you on. Yeah, I had no idea that that was something that would be so, so intriguing to me that would turn me on. much as it does. It just goes to show that. You never know. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have known. But it's a really, it's a very enriching

experience for us in our marriage. Right. And for the woman that's listening to, it's not like you saw your husband as less of a man or anything like that, right? Like it didn't make you see him different. It was just a turn-up. Yeah. No way. I don't, I don't see him differently. In fact, I look at him with more, more love now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. So that first experience, he's kind of like blowing the guy. And now, do you get involved with the guy this first time? How far do you take it? I did. At first, I thought I was going to just sit back and watch, but I couldn't. I wanted to be involved. So, yeah, so I jumped in pretty quick, honestly. And I think we really enjoy giving head together. So I think I had jumped in and we

had done that. It wasn't a very long interaction from what I remember. There was he had moved to the bed. There was a lot of oral all all different ways. He the guy had given me oral and then I do remember that Joe had fucked him. I don't believe that I had sex with that guy with the guy for that those for actually the first couple guys we were with I didn't have sex with. It just didn't it just didn't happen. And so like I said, it was a pretty quick, seemed like a pretty quick interaction. And afterwards, I just remember thinking like, okay, that was like a pretty, like that was an okay first try, basically is kind of how I felt about it. Yeah. I think it's always, that first time is always the hardest because it's like that, everything is unknown. But you like seeing your guy, you were turned on by it. I'm assuming he like seeing that guy go down on you and all that kind of good stuff like he was into it as well.

yes he is yeah he's very much into that and he further down the line obviously because it didn't happen with that guy but but he loves watching me fuck another guy right right right he's totally into that did you ever see this guy again or no one and done no that was a one and done we had set up another time with him and then he's like gone us last minute and so that was it for him so yeah he was a one at done and so then you have a couple other guys that you hook up with it it's kind of the same kind of thing where your husband's just hooking up with the guy and maybe there's some oral for you so yeah those first two experiences yes that's what it was that yeah he was he was looking up with the guy and i was getting oral pretty much i don't think it was until we were with the third

guy that i actually had sex with them so tell me about that experience and that guy so that was one of my favorite guys that that we have have been with and we i think we met with them maybe three four or five times, but we don't see him any longer. Again, he checks marks a lot of those like physical characteristics that I was looking for in a guy. And we again met him out in public at a restaurant. And then we decided to move on to the hotel. I remember it was a Sunday because he afterwards, he made a joke about this is the best Sunday afternoon I've ever had. An afternoon, not even nighttime. Yeah, no, it wasn't a night time. Oh, my God.

And so we, we, even though it was kind of a new experience, I remember him walking into the hotel room that we were already in. And he was like, well, this is kind of the awkward part, isn't it? And so I just walked up to him myself and I started kissing him and making out with him. And then it kind of took off from there. I think Joe came over and again, like undid his pants and started sucking on him. And we did pretty much, I'm pretty sure everything that with him that first time. I had sex with him. He had, he fucked Joe.

There was a lot of oral back and forth. I think there was even while Joe was fucking me, he was fucking Joe. Oh, wow, like a little train or something. I don't know what this is called. Yeah. Which I really enjoy that. We've done that with another guy too. And I really, really enjoy that because I can.

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This is the first time you're having sex with another guy for a very long time and your husband's watching you. Is it super hot? Oh, yeah. I loved it. I ate it up. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah. And like I said, he, Joe enjoyed watching me do it.

Not that the first time we were with that guy, we actually the first couple times, I think, we had used protection with him, but we became comfortable with him. and he became comfortable with us. So the first time that we were with him and he didn't use a condom, the thing that Joe really loves doing is while I'm fucking a guy, he will take his dick out of me and he'll start sucking on it. That's one of his favorite things to do. Now is a big part of why you're enjoying it because you're like your husband's watching and you're kind of performing for him?

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. I love knowing that he's watching me. That's so interesting. Can you imagine fast forward if it like you went. back five years ago. You would be like with another guy in front of your husband, loving it, doing a train. Would you ever imagine that this is where you'd be?

No, no. Had I said that afternoon? No, never in a million years. You guys thought you'd be like not talking in separate bedrooms? Yeah, exactly. Just continuing to drift apart. Yeah, so crazy how things changed up. So, okay, I know he talked a lot about the reconnecting sex.

Like, because a lot of times people call it reclaiming. And he's like, I don't even call it reclaiming. I call it reconnecting, and I thought that was like an interesting perspective. How is that reconnecting with you guys afterwards? Because people always talk about that the sex that you have after those experiences with each other and how it's always so intense. And sometimes lasts for weeks you can live on the high from it. Definitely.

So Joe is very, very sexually charged. So we could have one of these experiences. And typically, if time allows, we'll be with a guy for four hours, four or five, hours. And so after those experiences, like, I'm good. I'm good for a few days. I don't necessarily but Joe, it does the opposite for him. It like charges his him up and he's ready to go. And so, yeah, we did have a conversation about the reconnection sex. For us, it's a lot of we really love like laying in bed, being in an intimate space together and just talking about the experience. What did you like?

What did you like? Did you know that I was doing this while you were doing that? Because, you know, you miss things that are going on because you may be, you may be getting some sort of pleasure that has you kind of locked in. So that's the thing that we love to do is to just kind of for a long time afterwards, just to talk about it. Oh, well, did you like it when he did this or did you like watching this? Those kind of things.

And those things do carry us through when we're within our relationship and when we're having reconnections. Right. In between guys, you have all this other stuff now to talk about, to fantasize about, to go over, to reminisce, right? Yeah, it's basically like our own mental porn collection. Yeah. And then that's a part of it for you, watching him be pleasured. As well by the guy, do you love to see that for him? Oh, yeah. I love watching him get fucked. Back one time when we were with a guy, it was somebody we had been with a few times. And I was like, I said when we got into the hotel room, I said, well, why don't you, you start off with him and I'll just be over here on the couch watching. And they spent a good long while together and I got to just sit there and watch and masturbate and watch him get fucked. And that turns you on enough when that could get you off just watching that.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I let it happen for a good long while, just really enjoying watching it. I didn't feel in that moment, I didn't feel like I needed to be involved because I also knew that I was going to. get involved later because it was somebody we had been with and we really enjoy. Right, right, right. So I knew that I would get my own satisfaction. So that guy, the great guy that you liked the best, but you saw him a bunch of times to the point

where you trusted him enough that you were doing it without a condom. And that was all good. How many other guys have you seen and what other kinds of experiences have you had since? That guy. So, yes, we saw him, I don't know, maybe three or four times. And then he said that he was looking for like. a monogamous relationship because he was single at that point. We have another guy, though, that we've probably seen seven, eight times.

And he's the one that we enjoy the most mutually and that we, like, we just, everything seems so seamless with him. We kind of all equally get pleasure. We have a good time. We'll play around and fuck for a while and then we'll go to sleep for a little while and then we'll wake up and have some more fun. So he's kind of our, like, he's almost like our gold. standard for guys that we that we meet with.

I'm trying to think that besides the the cross dresser. Yeah, we'll get on him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's, he's been pretty much the kind of the regular. And then there was one guy we had been messaging with. We just could not line our schedules up.

We've probably texted with him back and forth for a couple months now. And then when Joe was out of town, we actually arranged for me to go meet him and and fuck. So that's what that. was the that's the first experience I've had outside of us meeting a guy. Yeah, and that's like a real hot wife kind of experience. Tell me about that. Yeah, so it was kind of a last minute thing. There was this other guy we had been messaging with and couldn't line the schedules up, but then it was kind of last minute on, again, on a Sunday.

And we were like, hey, here's the deal. He's out of town. She's horny. Can you, basically, Joe was like, can you go fuck my wife for me? And so he was like, yeah, I sure can. And so within, I would say two hours, I was in a hotel room with him. He was not my favorite person to be with ever out of all the guys we've been with. But it was a fun experience. He was fun to have sex with. We did a lot of different things. But one of the things I kind of quickly came to realize is when there's just two of you,

there's not as many options as there is when there's three of you. So there was just only so much so much you could do with. just the two of us. And there were a couple of qualities about him in person that I just didn't prefer necessarily. Now, what was the deal with your husband? Was he like on the phone listening? Were you taking picks? Were you just to report back after? And he was like horny just thinking about it. How is it arranged with your husband? So he's got some serious phomo when it comes to that kind of thing. So he obviously, I checked in with him when we, when I first got there, but then I didn't checking in with him for a while after and I think it freaked him out. He, I think he was most concerned

about are you okay? Are you safe? For sure. And then we, we did send some pictures to him and we texted back and forth with him some and but yeah, I think it drove him absolutely crazy to not know like play by play and moment by moment what was going on. Yeah. But was it like a turn on for you to be doing this knowing that you were going to bring home the details to your husband later? Did you enjoy the solo action or Or do you prefer when you're with the all together? Or do you like both? Well, I liked both. I liked the experience.

I'm glad that I went and did it. But I think I do prefer all three of it, like us being together with somebody. Because again, it's just more, it's more mutually enjoyable for everybody. There's more going on, like you said. Yeah. Yeah.

Just a lot more stimulation. A big part of what you like about those situations is watching the guy on guy action that you don't get that that's missing from when you're just solo with the guy so i could i would understand why the the three-sum would be top of the mountain for you for sure but you did enjoy though doing the solo thing as well and that's still on the table yeah yeah that's still on the table and honestly we talked while i was with that guy we talked a lot about oh what would you do with joe if he was here and so that and that is something that we've we're still messaging with him and hope to get together as a threesome one day.

You guys sound kind of lucky in that it seems like you've been able to actually not only pick, but also meet up with a bunch of guys. It's not hard. It's not that easy to find a third, whether it's a man or a woman. It sounds like you've been able to get a couple, a bunch. Yeah, we've had some really good experiences. And like I said, we've got the one guy who we've seen, I think maybe like I said, six, seven, eight times, something like that.

Yeah. It's just hard for us to line up schedules to meet, but he's definitely like the one that we enjoy the most and is kind of been ongoing. What's interesting about him is he's truly bisexual. He is not a relationship. He just has couples that he meets with. And the last time we were, we saw him, I started asking the questions about those couples.

And he has, he has two different couples that he's been seeing for eight, nine, ten years. Wow. And that's just, that's his thing. Now before we get to the cross-dressing, the cross-dresser, because that's like an interesting story, did you guys ever discuss anything more when it comes to, like different kinds of scenarios, like hooking up with a woman, doing a couple swap, going to a swingers party? Since you guys have opened things up, did you ever think to take it further in any, in those kinds of way? Yes, we have talked about that. It's just not something that we have put a lot of, energy into planning. We did go to like a swinger party at a bar one time. Gosh, I think that was maybe last summer, about six, seven months ago or so. And because we had been on a Facebook page for it,

everybody seemed like they were pretty open and, hey, come out to this. So you can meet people in person and blah, blah, blah. So we went down to this bar and we went there and we were probably me more so than Joe, but I was really put off by it. Really? How come? Everybody was super clippy. We found it very difficult to actually people and connect with people there because everybody already knew each other. And then the people that we did talk to, it just looked like they were just looking for another woman to join their couple or just looking for like a wife swap. It didn't seem like they were very open to.

newbies or anything else outside of what they're done yeah that sounds yeah it did it's it did suck yeah we were really put off by it so that's a bad party that's that's that's that's the that's the party planner person or whatever you know because i don't hear that typically a lot of times people say like people in the lifestyle are so inclusive and so open and so welcoming to newbies um but of course it's not going to be the same everywhere right i just think that was a bad party for sure because typically I don't hear that kind of experience, but that place obviously is that way. And those people that hang out there, that's just the way they roll. But I would say give it another shot someplace else. And now what about doing like a couple swap or looking online for other things? Is there ever

any of that in your future? Or do you just strictly like what you're doing now? We do what we're doing. We have been messaging with a couple that we were hoping to maybe meet up with soon that is interested in, you know, being with another couple. Again, I don't think that the, from what we've gathered messaging back and forth, I don't think that the guy is into a ton of action with another guy, but enough so that I think it could be a fun experience between all of us because I've had very limited experience with other women. So I really, that's something that I want to explore. I just, we haven't put a lot of energy into doing it yet. So now when he, I know that when he told you about this cross-dresser he was like hooking up with, you had some questions or didn't

really believe it. Tell me that whole story. There was a hookup recently. I know I need the update. Yes, yes, you do. So yeah, he found this cross-dresser, I think, just in his travels and his workday had kind of happened upon her at a gas station. And he's so outgoing that he, of course, went right up to her and started talking to her. So in exchange email addresses or something like that because that's how how she communicates. So he he ends up hooking up with this cross-dresser. And I think he had hooked up with her maybe three, four times, something like that. And I was just always really curious about it. There was something that always felt a little like odd or off to me about it. Because to me, again, being like the really curious person that I am, I'm like,

who is this person? Who, like, who is the person behind the cross-stress? dresser. What are they doing? What's their life like? I had a million questions in my head. And of course, Joe's like, yeah, we don't talk. We just, we meet. We meet and we fuck. That's what we do, basically. That's guys for you. Like, he's like, I'm not going to ask. Yeah, I'm not going to ask questions. And I was just so curious. And so what I have learned kind of after the fact is that he, of course, told the cross dresser that he was married and his wife knows and supports him. And of course, again, in hindsight, now I know the cross-dresser thought that he was, of course, lying about that and didn't even believe he had a wife.

So after telling the cross-dresser about my wife is really curious, blah, blah, blah, the cross-dresser decided to test the waters and said, well, give her my email address and tell her to email me. And it took me a couple days, but I did. I emailed her, and we started this email interaction back and forth. and after the fact again, come to find out, the cross-stresser did not believe I was real. Yeah, yeah. At first. It's so funny.

Yeah. Thought that it was just either it was Joe messaging or something. Yeah, for sure. So, again, I just had a lot of questions back and forth, but we emailed back and forth for about a week and then we decided to meet for a coffee at Starbucks. Oh, my God. I wonder even at that point, the cross-stress, just thinking there's no way a woman's walking through the door.

Because even an email, it doesn't matter that you're emailing, it could still be Joe, right, emailing. So it's really, he's not, the car sister doesn't believe it until you walk through the door. How surprised. Yeah, she did not. She thought that she told me later, she was like, I did not think that you would show up at that starts. And I was like, I didn't know whether I was going to either because that was something super outside the box for me. Yeah. I'm much more comfortable, obviously meeting people, if it's the two of us together meeting them.

I'm because I'm much more introverted and quiet and kind of a little bit more shy. So it's just easier if I'm with Joe to do that. So you walk into Starbucks and tell me what goes down. So yeah, I walk into Starbucks. It is insanely busy. Oh, my gosh. Cross dress are sitting right there inside the door. So she stands up and she gives me a hug.

And she was like, where do you want to sit? And I said, why don't we sit outside? It was a nice spring day. And so she got me a drink and we sat outside. And we kind of, we basically took turns asking questions back and forth. And of course, my questions have more to do with, I want to know about you personally. So she would answer them or not, depending on what it was. But I just couldn't help.

She's very open about saying, I'm not passable as a woman. This is just something that I enjoy and I feel sexy doing it. And you can tell it's a man dressed up in female clothing with makeup on and a wig on. It's not like she's not like she's really fooling anybody, but she knows that. She admits it. It's just something that she really, really enjoys. And so sitting there across the table, looking at her, having a conversation with her, I just couldn't help but think, I'm seeing the person behind this.

I'm not seeing this persona that you're putting on. And she puts on, there's such a different personality between her cross-dressing self and then the counterpart male. Yeah. So, but we don't see that. We see a lot of crossover. You see the cross-dresser is what you're saying. No, we see. Both.

Because, yeah, because so since that time, I sat down and I, the next time I met for coffee, I met with the male. Oh, okay. Yeah, continue on. This is such a fascinating story. Yeah. So, yeah. So the next week I met him at the same Starbucks, and it was him dressed as himself. Now, was that your request?

Did you say, hey, you know what? Because yours is just so curious. I would be the same way, right? This is why I do my show because I was curious by nature, right? So did you say, hey, would you be okay to show up as your male self so I could see you that way as well? Was that your idea? I think it kind of mutually came about because, yes, I think I think she, the cross-dresser may have asked and I said, yeah, I would love to sit down with your,

your male counterpart and get to know you because basically, and I think I had said it, I believe that I see a lot of you underneath the cross-dressing. Yeah. So, yeah, and he was open to that. So you walk in. And that you know exactly who he was when you walked in? Could you see this resemblance, I would assume? Yes.

Mm-hmm. Yes. Very much. Well, and he had been, he sat at the same table that we were at the same table that we were at week before and he brought me a rose which I thought was really really sweet. So, so again, we sat down and we talked and one of the things that is, has been a catch for me this whole time is the fact that he is married and his spouse does not know anything about this lifestyle. Wow. And that's a big hang up for me. It always has been. It's been, and it's been a deal breaker

with other people. And but for some reason with him, we continue having conversations. Yeah. So I met with him that week. The following week, Joe and I met with him. We all three met together. And so, again, we met at a Starbucks. And this was the first time that Joe had seen him as himself. Right. Because Joe has a free pass to hook up with guys. You'll get more of that story in Joe's episode. But he does, he's able to go and hook up solo. And he's been playing solo with this crosshuster, but always when the crosshuster has been dressed. correct correct so so yeah we we all three of us met together and sat down and like I said had a coffee and Joe even said I see a lot of this personality in your cross-dressing personality as well so we again we didn't think that there was that big of a of a change or a difference

there probably is for him internally but we don't see it on the outside so yeah so So that was the third time we met. And then the following week, I had a park date with him where we kind of, we found like a little bit of like a secluded area in a park. And again, he had brought some like coffee and tea for us and we sat. But we got to be able to sit there and kiss and hug and touch and kind of have a little bit more of an exploratory session with one another. Interesting. Now is she dressed as her cross-dressing self? or is he showing up as a guy at that park?

He is showing up as a guy at the park. The only time, it was only that first initial time that we met. That you met with the cross-dresser side of him. Yes. Right. Okay. So now you're at the park and you're kind of like hook it up with him a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

Like I said, we're kissing and we're touching and kind of just exploring each other and had a really good time. And at this point, we had the third. recent date planned. So we knew it was coming. So yeah, we we had a really good time together there. And then the following week was going to be the week we were going to be meeting on that weekend. And so we decided, Joe and I decided that we were not going to meet with. He wasn't going to meet her and I wasn't going to meet him that week. We were just going to kind of save it for the weekend. We decided on a hotel. We met up with. We were in the lobby of the hotel and she walks in dressed because that's how we decided is that that's what I was sure oh okay so that that's interesting so

you had only met up with her as a guy with your husband and fooled around with it but this time the hookup was going to be her dressed yes because that's more interesting the male counterpart is not sure about male counterpart says that he is a straight male yeah yeah right so he can't show up and hook up with your husband it's okay to be the guy with you in the park but it's If your husband's going to be there, he only feels like it could be with a guy when he's dressed. I totally understand that because I've talked to many cross-dressers and that's definitely the thing. So that would make sense that the only way he could do that is if he's dressed with your guy because your guy's going to be there. And you were down for that?

You're just an open person. So curious. You kind of roll with anything. You're like, why not try it? Right? You're that kind of person. I love it. Yeah.

Yeah. Totally. I was definitely down for it. So, yeah, we head on up to the hotel. room. And so, so Joe and the cross-stressor kind of get into it because that was the thing is I wanted to see what they do, that what they have always done together that I haven't been like privy to. So I, I get to kind of sit and watch what going on and what they do and how they enjoy one another, giving each other head, fingering each other, just a whole bunch of playing around. So we had a really

good time with that. I did, I did a good bit of watching for first. I, I don't, don't even know how long just for a little while just because like I said, I wanted to see what they do. And then at one point, I got involved with, it was cross-dresser and Joe, I got involved in the scene and made sure that I undressed for her because she, male counterpart was really looking forward to seeing me naked. Yeah. And then we decided that cross-dresser was going to go and transform into his male counterpart. Oh, interesting. So, so when she's with, so she wasn't going to be with you, he was going to be with you. There was a switch when that came to the, came to the, when that was brought to the table. I love this. This is fascinating and dynamic. So, so she goes to the bathroom.

She calls me in because she wants help on dressing. So I go in and I undress her. We, and then Joe comes in and we both start giving her head. And then we, we go back out. She finishes like taking all the makeup and everything off and she comes out. And then so he and I spent a good bit of time in bed together so much so that Joe was like, y'all are boring because we were just kind of like we were just doing a lot of talking and touching and and caressing and everything. And when it came down to it, he, he was never able to get hard enough for me to have sex with him. So it was just a lot of like oral and fingering.

and Joe and I fucking and kind of going back and forth like that. I even, I pegged him and Joe both. So we, we just kind of had a really fun mutual time. And it seemed to us like he was into it even as his nail counterpart there with Joe and I. Wow. Fascinating. Right? Like I said before, I thought how crazy it is that here you are with two guys,

but now even take it a step further. Here you are with this cross trusser and the switching back and forth and everything. It's a really interesting dynamic, like I said, for sure. And did you enjoy it? Yeah, I really, we really did enjoy it. We thought it didn't, again, it didn't kind of fulfill all the experiences I wanted to have because I really wanted to fuck him.

Yeah. But it just, it wasn't happening. So it didn't checkmarked that box for me, but it was a really, really fun experience. another little like fun tidbit was we were lame there after joe and i had had sex and so joe was soft and he cross-dresser had never seen him soft and practically pounced on him and started and started sucking him he was like oh i need to go experience that oh that was a really funny part but yeah we we both really enjoyed it we realized that there are things between the two of us that we need to make sure

boundary wise that all three of us are included when we're with another person because like I said, Joe found it kind of boring and when he and I were just in bed and playing around and there just wasn't that much action going on for sure. Right, right, right. So a little less of that next time for Joe. Correct. Yeah. Oh my God. That's crazy. That's a great story. Now last question just because you did touch upon it. How do you feel like doing all this stuff and opening up? your marriage and having threesomes has changed your marriage, even outside of the bedroom, more so outside of the bedroom, because we already know how it's changed, you know, inside the bedroom.

It has brought us, like, immeasurably closer together by far. It has created a whole other dimension of our relationship. We, along with just a lot of other work that we're doing, we are having much deeper conversations. We are much more open with one another. We are able to say hard things to each other that we know may not go over so well, but may need to be said. It's a deeper relationship than we've ever had before. And I could have never imagined that it would be this way.

Along with that, though, comes for me with some really heavy emotional tolls that it takes on me. Because I kind of take on, I'm pretty empathic. So I take on a lot of that. So it's also been kind of difficult from that standpoint to just constantly be bouncing back from like really heavy emotional conversations. Really? Even with your husband, you're saying? Yes. Yeah. Like it's so intense. It's like too much. I don't understand. Yeah. It's just because there's a lot of processing of emotions and through this whole process, especially with a cross-stressor, we've come to touch on some kind of insecurities that we've had.

So kind of exploring those and exploring where they're coming from and how we can navigate around them, make sure that they don't get touched on and triggered when we're with other guys or couples. And again, just trying to dig into where are those insecurities coming from. So it's just like I said, it's more difficult conversations that that we wouldn't be having if we weren't doing this. Right. You're opening up a whole new area. So you're figuring out more parts of yourself. But I think that's where down the line, even five more years from now, you're even closer because of going there. You're really going and seeing layers of each other that you would never see and talking about them.

And that's what typically people say is what brings couples together. It's that overcommunication. And I think that you're having a level of intimacy with the other person that you wouldn't have because most of the time all those layers stay hidden. Yes. They're not there. Even if they're not so great, like you said, someone. them are insecurities and it brings up. But those are parts of who you are. You're not like creating new parts. You're just uncovering things that are already there and it's coming to the

surface and you're tending to them, even if they're difficult, which I think in the long run brings you closer. Definitely. Right? It doesn't, none of it has these insecurities that have come up and everything. None of it has been something that could affect your relationship in a negative way? No, it's just been things that we've had to work through between the two of us so that they don't occur again or we don't touch on those spots or like I said, it's it's kind of figuring out, okay, well, where are those insecurities coming from and kind of exploring that. Right. So listen, I love this story. I'm so glad you called in two. I feel like even though it's the same story, it's always a completely different episode. And I love getting the same story from both

couple. So thanks so much for calling in as well. I have super hot picks of you guys over on my Patreon. Your husband sent me. He sent me some rated X-1. Those will go over up on my Discord. You guys could put them up on my Discord as well. So those will be over there. I'll give you free access. Promise me that you're going to listen to Samantha's episode or check them out because I just feel like there's a connection there that needs to be made. And anyway, thanks. What do we call you, Mary? Thanks, Mary. Thanks so much for calling in. And make sure to go over to my Discord and check those people out and post the pics and I'll tell Joe too. I will definitely go check them out and thank you for having me on. This is a fascinating story. Thanks so much for calling it. Thanks. Have a good day.

Bye, Mary. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it.

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people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com and I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strickley Anonymous podcast. Hey everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's

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