Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 802 - June and her Husband are Now Swingers Into Couple Swapping and More

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

June and her husband are now swingers into couple swapping and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune on to hear all the details including how and why she suddenly became hornier than ever, the bachelorette party all female threesome she had with her best friends and what went down, how her husband brought up having a mff threesome with her, how they went looking for a girl online and why they got turned off to the apps, how her husband copped to wanting some anal play with her and how she felt about it at first, how and why they decided to go to a swingers club and the rules they had going in, the first time they went and exactly what went down including the woman and the couple they hooked up with, the swingers party with a bunch of couples they attended and what went down, how and why they took swinging very slowly at first, their first couple swap and what went down, how and why she enjoyed watching her husband with another women, the other couple they hooked up with and exactly what went down, how she told her best friend she was swinging and how her best friend joined in, their first full swap with couple and the first time she kissed another guy and how she felt about it, how hooking up with others has changed their marriage for the better, how they’re into bondage and looking to do a mff threesome next with a cuck and hotwife they know, how and why she still has some boundaries and why she needs to honor them, how they’re have had some fights and how they’ve worked through them, how they’ve let best friend listen to them have sex over the phone, the girl trip she took and the all female threesome thats went down plus a whole lot more. Link to the toy we spoke about: https://amzn.to/3tJt6vw **To see anonymous pics of JUNE plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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June did a lot of the talking. She just basically had one story after another. I didn't really have to talk much on this episode, which is always great. June and her husband now have an open marriage, but they didn't always. But she did start out talking about the all-female three. she had before she was married and then when she was married her husband brought up having a threesome with a girl and then they started looking for people and that led to them going to swingers parties and swinger vacations and swinger hookups and all that kind of good stuff they've been

swapping soft swapping heart swapping all kinds of things together ever since uh actually for like the past couple of years like i've been doing lately i'm not giving out all the detail in the intro. But if you want to see more of what's going on on this episode, read the description. Like I said, June just has one hot story after another. She does most of the talking. I have naughty picks of her over on my Patreon and more naughtier picks over on my Discord. So if you want to put a face and a body and all that kind of good stuff to June and her husband, sign up for my Patreon afterwards. But anyway, I'm going to be right. I'm going to get right back on with June. Hi, June, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?

Hi, Kathy. I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me. I do know because we were trying to get a good sound to where you're at that you're like in somebody's walk-in closet right now, which I think is so funny. I'm sitting in their floor next to shoes and I've never been in here before. Oh my God. She's like I'm calling from someone else's house and they have high ceilings. It sounded so bad. So I've made her go into a walk-in closet. So anyway, June, this is your story. You got a lot going on. on you and your husband. It sounds like you recently opened things up. You went to a swingers club, I think. You've pegged him. You've been with a woman.

You had an all-girls trip where you wound up in bed, I think you said. So your husband got on testosterone. So I don't know if that's why he was like, yeah, fuck me in the ass. I don't know what's going on. But you guys have taken things up at a notch, I'm assuming. This is your husband, correct? Yes, yes. We've been married for about 17 years.

Okay. So what led up to this change in things? Like, how was your sex life before? And then when did you decide to open things up? Well, I would say about two years ago, I noticed that my sex job just went from seemingly like nothing to where I was just, I would just get wet, just walking around. Oh, my God. Were you 40?

I am 30. I'm about to be 37. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. that you're going through to change a little early. Oh, God, please don't tell me that. Don't worry, it's going to be 12 years before it happens.

Doesn't matter. It takes a long time. You're going to be horny for like 10 years. Trust me. Good. Yeah. Well, so that's sort of, so we started having, we would go, we went from having sex maybe, maybe once a week, maybe once every other week to just about every single night. And then one night after we had sex, he, I guess, which was brilliant on his part, he asked

if I might be willing, wanting to have a threesome with another woman. And I'm against to him at this time. I'd actually already had an experience with two of my best friends. Actually, on my, the night of my bachelor's party, me and two of my best, still my best friends today, we sort of all had an interaction and a shower together. And I hadn't told him yet, but I always kind of need that I like women. So I thought, well, yeah, that would be, that would be a lot of fun.

Okay, but stop right there. Sorry, I got to interrupt. We got to get the Bachelorette story. I'm sorry. Got to go there. Okay. Okay. And he knows about it now, so it's okay.

But yeah, the night of my bachelor party, like, but me and a bunch of women went out. But at the end of the night, my two best friends were just going to stay at mine and my husband's house. He wasn't there, obviously. And we'd been drinking quite a bit, and I don't really know how it would let up to it. But next thing, you know, the three of us are sort of making out. We all get in a shower. Then we're all sort of like fingering each other. We all went down on each other.

And it was the first time that any of us had done that to any other woman. It was just, it was like an explosion or something. I'm not really sure how or why that happened. Did you consider cheating on your husband? No. See, and at the time I didn't, I didn't. And when I did finally tell my husband about it, he was pretty upset. And I was like, I think you're right.

I guess that was cheating. But to me in my mind, it was like, Oh, it's my two best friends. Like, girls having fun, which is not true. Like, I get that now. But at the time, listen, if you didn't think it was, no, listen, I'm sorry. On some level, you knew it wasn't right because you didn't tell them until like 15 years later. When did you tell him?

You didn't tell him the next day. If you thought it was no big deal, you would have been like, hey, by the way, last time I ate both of my friends out and he would have got hard and fucked you. He probably would have been happy, but you never told him. So you knew. So why wouldn't, like, so why did you keep it a secret? you're right because I was I was embarrassed you're so right he's going to be because he knows I'm coming on to and he's going to be happy that you said that to me yeah sorry I'm on your side guy okay I hear you

it was cheating all right so anyway but anyway so but he does wind up finding out about it and whatever that was your first experience so let's get back to where you were at okay so he he brings it up right after sex one night and that very night we were like really amped up about it so we downloaded We Googled and we downloaded. I think it was like the field app. And we totally got catfished by, but I know it was not this woman. There was this beautiful picture of this beautiful blonde woman.

And she immediately starts, you know, messaging us. And it's like, yeah, I can't wait to meet up with you guys in two days. And we were like, wow, this is so easy. Like, wow, I can't believe how quickly this is happening. With the hot woman. Like the perfect girl. Yeah. If you ever see the perfect girl on your screen, just know that it's not real.

That's not real. That's not real life. But next thing, she's asking me to get on this website and put in our credit card information to confirm that it's really us. Oh, wow. So it wasn't even like a guy looking for pussy shots from you. It was like someone trying to scam you out of cash. Yes.

Oh, my God. It was crazy. So after that, like, basically he was on that side. I just, it just turned me off. I didn't like scrolling through the site. I just, but during that period of time, I started doing a lot of research, which meant like me listening to every podcast I could about anything sex related. That's when I found your podcast actually. And I like, I consumed your podcast like nothing else. And that's when I heard about swingers clubs. And I'd always thought it was like ugly dudes and dinner jackets like smoking cigars, making women like suck their dills. I had no idea. That's just, that's my, that was always my mental image. But after listening to your show, I was like, huh, that could be maybe an easier and more like relatable road to go down. We could try something together and actually see real people that aren't just on a screen. So I just started Googling. And we found one that was pretty close to us, really, maybe like an hour away in Nashville. And so I brought it up to my husband. And at first, he had the same reaction I did. He was like, I can't play the would. suggest us go to a swingers club. That sounds so like demeaning, gross. But then I again refer to him to your podcast and a couple others I'd listen to and he kind of realized that, hey, this might be what we should do. But during this whole time, we, we just started like having sex

like every single night. We still have sex basically every single night. And before our, before our first trip to a swingers club, he had finally opened up to me about some of his sexual fantasies, which included pegging. I never even heard of pegging. Maybe I had on your podcast. I don't think I had, though. I don't think I really understood what he meant. But one night, we were kind of, we were fooling around, and we have this rocking chair. It was my parents' old rocking chair, and you can get kind of like a good motion to it. And so we found one of my, we got one of my dildos that's a little bit longer and he sort of just like squat like got on his knees in it and we got loob and we did it the right way because you can't just shove that shit in that's not going to be good but i i'll

kathy i'll tell you within i would say just a few minutes of me going back and forth with him on that rocking chair with the dildo he came five times in a row and like he came five times in a row and like Like, it was the weirdest thing to me. I was in shock. And at first, I was totally turned off by it because at that point, I was like, wow, he's never going to want to have sex with me again. Like, this is all it's going to be from now on. It made me kind of nervous because he'd never had five orgasms in a row. But then after that, we talked about it.

And because that's the whole thing with all this, we talk about so much more than we ever used to. Like, our relationship, I feel like this gave us, like, the sparks that we needed because we, We've been together for a long time. But yeah, so we talked about it, and he told me, I realized he doesn't want this all the time. And also we realized that since we've done other pegging sessions, it's not like the first time. I think the first time was more like him opening his body like, wow, that was kind of like a new physical sensation or something. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, and I was going to tell you a couple days ago, you linked a toy that, I guess, for women, that sells for like 100.

But for men, because on Amazon, it's labeled as a pegging toy. It's like $30. Yeah. Listen, I ordered it right after your show and it came in. I used that. Yeah. I got it for me to, like, try to squirt because I've been trying to squirt, and it doesn't happen. But I used it on him first.

But the great thing about it was I was able to fuck, like, fuck him while I had my arm, like, around his back and was using that into his asshole while I was fucking him. And so I was able to, like, have an orgasm while he was having, like, an anal orgasm. Yeah, how cool. And that toy, it's so heavy. Can you believe it's only 30 bucks? I get why the other people sell it for 175 because people will be like, oh, this is, this is like a real thing. It's, like, really substantial.

And I'm like, I did a Google search and found it for cheaper for my audience. I'm going to start selling it because I sell somebody on Amazon. I'm selling so many of those because trust me, I could see how many I sell. I sell so many of them that I'm like I'm going to sell it myself I've already in talks to the people in China that make them to just get them myself and sell the shit out of them because I think that's a great toy to use I bought it myself yeah and I told her I could just set this on the bedside stand and use it as a weapon like that thing is substantial you're right you could kill a burglar at the same time because you can hold it in your hand really well as a weapon it's heavy yeah anyway so okay so after so we talked about the swingers Club because we have to for us we move really slowly with things we have to talk about stuff a lot because he was raised pentacostal I was raised church of Christ like it we have to get over our own like head space of this is everything this is terrible you shouldn't think of doing these things you know but so we scheduled our first trip to go to the swingers club so it was we had a great time

but let me ask you though because I always these are the things I like to ask before you're walking into that club. You guys obviously have had a lot of conversation. You said you guys overtalk everything. What were your rules going in? What were you guys expecting to do that first time? Was everything on the table? Like you guys were going to fuck other people?

Were you just going to watch? Was there like no kissing rules? How was it set up? We have had, we had all the rules. Any role you can think of. So that no kissing, we just recently got over the no kissing thing. And we've been doing this for a couple years. there's not

no play for me with like no guys are going to be touching me right and that just we just recently changed that also yeah no fucking like no penetration I was fine with like him going down another woman if another woman wanted to go down to him

and he was fine with me playing with women I could kiss other women or I could play with other women and so that was basically where we were at our first time and I tell you I could barely like move my body to get out of the car the first time because you pull up and you're like in this industrial looks like almost like an industrial stance like a like a strip mall setting and you're like what is this oh my god yeah the fear of the

unknown I'd be really super nervous too oh but as soon as we walked in this crazy guy like super enthusiastic almost like popping out of his shoes like jumping around so excited that we were there he gave us a tour took us around so when you first walk in it's like there's a dance for people are just sitting at tables, like just being normal. It's not like you walk in and everyone's just naked and having sex everywhere. It's not like that at all. Everyone's so welcoming and nice. And it was just like, wow, these are our type people like laid back, non-judgmental, just cool.

Then he took us to like the back rooms areas. And yeah, we definitely saw some fucking back there. Three sons happening. There's like separate rooms where you can't, you can shut the door. You can't see what's happening. There's like a fishbowl room. room where you can look through this like glass area and see if people want to be watched you can get through in this room anyway so we took the tour and then he was like all right see you later

i'm going to go play i'm going to go have my own phone i'm like all right so i was just really determined that i was going to make something happen that night like i had this mindset and when i get determined about something like it's just i'm going to make it happen okay so we and we go back to the the back area and i look over and i see this woman i didn't really notice what was happening right underneath her right beside her because it's kind of dark back there but she was naked she had her boobs like pointing straight out and they looked really nice i just i like left my husband he's like june where you going and so i just walked up to this woman i said hey would it be okay if i grabbed your boobs like play with your boobs for a second she said

sure so i kind of got closer and next thing i know i'm tripping over this guy's feet because she's fucking this guy that i didn't really notice at the time and and they were having to having a threesome, so I fell into a threesome. And, you know, sort of hands all over me. You know, they thought I was like trying to get in on this threesome. Obviously. I was not. Yeah, I was not. You just wanted to touch her boobs. Yeah, so I was a little horrifying. They were really nice about it, but so that was our first thing. After that, we met this girl and her husband and she introduced me to the Sibian. Have you heard, you know what Sibian is? Yeah, of course. I know from Howard Stern. And I also sold them on my show at some point. They were a special.

Oh, nice. Okay, yeah. So I rode the Sibian for the first time, and as I was doing that, didn't realize it at the time, but my husband was having a conversation with this single woman who had kissed me and, like, play with me a little bit while I was riding the Sibian. And they started having a conversation, and she asked if me and him wanted to go to the back with her. And he was, he came over and asked me, and I was like, sure, that sounds great. What we came to do. So we go, we start walking to the back and it's really crowded and we're going down the hallway to get towards where you can sit and find a spot where you can all play together. But next thing I know, she has me like pinned up against the wall, like in the walkthrough area where there's people just trying to get around us. And she pins my head up against the wall and starts like really aggressively making that with me.

And she's like, she's like slinging my head against the wall a little bit. I don't know. Maybe she just got over excited. Then she starts fingering me. Next thing I know, she's, like, getting down underneath in this hallway, like, pulls my dress up, starts going down on me. And then she reaches back around with her other hand, and she's, like, grabbing my husband's cock. She was really aggressive. So my husband, he kind of stopped everything.

He's like, hey, let's go get on the couch back here. So we go back to the couch. He sits down. He pulls his pants down. She starts sucking his dick and his balls, like, just. all into it. And I'm just sort of standing there in the middle of this room. I didn't know what to do. So I just walk up behind her and I just sort of reach my hand under and I start rubbing her pussy a little bit. And I'd just start fingering her. I didn't really know what else to do. I didn't ask her,

but I figured it was fine. She doesn't sound like she asked you. No, God. My husband was like, why? Why did you tell her to quit hitting your head against the law? I don't know. It just happened. It was so quick. But next thing you know, she's just, she sort of just stands up and walks away. And that was, that was that. The first woman, did you, how far did you go with the first woman? Did you go down on her? Was it just like touchy-feely stuff?

Because there was like all that other stuff going down. No, I literally just touched her boobs and fell into their threesome and had to escort myself out of it. It was just embarrassing. Yeah. One of those things you live, you learn is like, look, look at your surrounding, see what's happening. I just was, I just wanted to make something happen. Yeah. After that, our last.

sort of experience that night. We had a lot of little experiences. We met this couple who couldn't speak English at all. We couldn't communicate with them whatsoever. We still see them at the club, and she'll sort of like follow me around a little bit, but I still can't talk to her. But she comes up to me, and she starts making out with me. And then she basically gets us, gets me to come over onto this sort of bed area. And she lays me down, and she starts going down on me. And it's getting towards the end of the night and I know that the club is going to close and I sort of I wanted to do something myself to a woman that night. So I just thought the easiest thing and the quickest, most efficient thing to do would just be to 69 her. So I sort of got up, rotated my body around and I

started going down on her as she was going down on me. And then both of our husbands went either side like my husband was holding my hair back for me and her husband was like, you know, moving her hair back. It was just, I don't know, it was amazing. So we left, we went back to hotel and we, man, we had, we had so much sex over the next couple days. Like, you know, because it was still the weekend. Like every few hours, we were just, you know, back in the bedroom. It just gave us so much energy. And so we were on a high, like such a high after that. Yeah, I've heard that. But after that, we have been back to that club about eight times since then. But in between there, we went, our next little story, just a little tidbit. We got somehow, okay, so once you join the Swingers Club, you're on the website where you can chat with other members. You know the real because it'll like, you can certify people. So if you've met them, you can get certified. And you know the real, like you can see all their pictures.

You can also exchange, like, naughty pictures if you choose to. You had to, like, ask permission. So we started meeting people on there. And we got contacted one day. actually a couple we never even met before, but they were trying to get a group of about eight couples together to go to the mountains to stay in a mountain cabin for two nights. And during this time, there's all these talks. We made like a big group chat on one of the apps. And to our knowledge, like most everyone there, they weren't full swingers.

It was just going to be more of like light stuff, whatever. So the first time we get there, nothing really happens with anybody. It's more just like we all go out to eat together. We're all just talking, hanging out. The next day, we all, like, walk around downtown together. We're all, you know, just kind of getting to know each other. But that night, it was like, all right, parties on. So with all these events we've gone to, especially anybody, like, in the quote-unquote lifestyle, most of the time, there's going to be a game played because it kind of breaks the ice when it gets everyone warm and feeling comfortable.

So we're all sitting around in this living room area, and we're playing some sort of silly game. But we all end up naked. just like that's the whole point of the game everyone gets naked man my husband didn't really do anything that that trip i went down on one girl i accidentally well i accidentally touched two different guys dicks it's funny that you call this and none you don't call going down on a girl anything you're like nothing went down i just went down on a girl and touched two other guys cocks that's nothing Well, the first guy, so they had this massage table set up upstairs area. And so, like, my husband would, like, give other women massages.

Like, and it's great because you're naked and, like, there's all these hands touching you. And it just, man, and also the guys get to feel all over every other woman's bodies. During that, like, my head is down. And I'm assuming my husband's, like, right in front of me. So I start, like, grabbing this guy's dick. And I'm sort of, like, going up and down because I think it's my husband. And I look up and I realize it's not him. And I'm, you know, my husband doesn't get mad because it's dark.

How do you? Whatever. But after that, my husband was given some other woman, a massage. I was just standing there. And I was standing next to this guy who'd been walking around the entire night with this huge boner. Like, from the moment he took off his clothes like two hours earlier, he must have taken a Viagra. His dick was just like rock hard, like an eight, nine inch cock. Oh, my gosh.

Just sitting, hanging out there. And I had been, listen, I had been nervous, obviously. So I've been drinking. And it's not an excuse, but like, the next thing I know, he sort of just like takes my hand, like sticks on his cock. And I'm like, oh, wow, that is big. And I'm like, being so stupid. I don't know why I did it.

But anyway, my husband saw that. That was bad. We talked about it for days, blah, blah, blah. But it was just so ridiculous because it turned out everybody there were swingers except for me and my husband, like everybody. So everyone fucked everybody else. And here we are, like, thinking, oh, this is, this is more our speed. No, we were totally in over our heads on that trip.

And, Moni, we'd only been, quote, unquote, doing this for, like, three months, four months. Uh-huh. And, like I said, we have to take everything really slowly. So I would say, like, during this whole time, I sort of began to realize, because, like I said, we would go to the Swingers Club about once a month, basically. But I kind of began to realize that maybe I don't always want to play with women. Like, maybe I don't just want to have a three-some with a woman. It would be nice to get some male attention. So we were going on this beach trip, just me and my husband and our kids.

And we thought, and we're going to be there for a week. And we thought, hey, really cool if we could invite, like, a lifestyle couple down for a couple nights. Because, like I said, we met people in the club and, like, on that site, I told you about. And we had sort of connected with one and had a Snapchat group. We're like, we'd share me and the wife. would send like dirty, naughty pictures of ourselves back and forth to like the whole group so the guys could see and all that kind of good stuff. So we invited them to come down to the beach with us because they had a kid too so the kids could play. So they stayed for a couple of nights.

But that second night, ma'am has been talked forever again. He decided it would be okay if a guy, like another guy, like touched me and went down on me. But no like no sucking cock, nothing like that. So that second night, we played a game, of course. We all got naked again, of course. We were, like, shut into a different room just in case the kids got up. They wouldn't see anything weird. Oh, my God.

Yeah, it was kind of ridiculous. But that night, the husband of the other couple, he went down on me while my husband was going down on his wife. And, of course, me and her played together. I feel like in all these situations, women always start things out. Like, it'll always be like the women making out first, getting a lot. the bed first. One of us goes down the other one first, and then, like, the guys are allowed to join. And I feel like that's how every single experience we've had so far has been. I guess it just

gets everyone feeling comfortable. I don't know. Yeah, listen, I think you got smart guys there, because that's the way it should be. I think you don't want to push women to do stuff and maybe they're being super respectful. I don't know, but I do, you know, I have heard people say that, you know, the swingers world and the lifestyles like the women it's the women's rule that world it's their choice they start things out like you said i don't think that's a bad thing no 100% it's it's whatever i say basically it that's what happens how did you feel seeing your guy with a woman was that the first time you seen him go down on a girl it yes it was now that first time in the club i watched another girl suck his dick and i loved that and that was the first time i'd seen him do that to

another woman and I love that. But the silliest thing to me about all of this is I still, we still had the no kissing rule. Like, no, I don't kiss a guy. You do not kiss another woman. I can kiss women, of course, because it's just a girl. But like I, I, I love watching him do that. I love watching him receive the pleasure from women. But I don't know what it's been up until he'll recently about the kissing thing that's bothered me. It's like, you're literally like, having sex almost orally and I'm upset about a kiss. I don't understand the mental. Yeah, but everybody, you don't have to understand it.

Everybody has that rule and that rule is the first one typically that goes out the window. But because I think people think that kissing is like more intimate. I had a bootical guy that I used to fuck him, blow him, do everything. I never kissed him because I didn't really like him like that. So I just feel like, I also didn't like his lips because I do think. kissing could just be a sexual thing. But kissing, I think, is tied to romance. When you really like someone, you want to kiss them, there's that thing.

But kissing could also just be, like, dirty and hot. But I think that's why it becomes a rule at first. And I think it goes out the window for most people. So I don't think it doesn't make sense. That's everyone's first rule they all have. No kissing. Right. So after that, we had another experience.

We went to a hotel with this couple. at the club. Now at the club, when we met them, she's just gorgeous. She's just a gorgeous woman. Her husband's a little weird, but anyway, we went to the back with them. And we always, like, there's a St. Andrew's Cross back there. Me and my husband have sort of become known as, like, the couple that, like, we know how to, we know how to flog some people. Because we started that up, too, like, when we first, you know, started getting, like, back into having sex every night, like, we got some floggers. We started doing a little, like, breath play. We started we got some restraints for the bed like so when we go to the club like that's our first go to

we're like let's go back to the cross like we love that so she had she has a real nice real nice ass on her but we all end up on the couch my husband goes down on her um his her husband like touched my boobs a little bit because i once again my husband agreed like okay guys can touch your boobs at this point that can maybe go down on you if i like the guy and that's it yeah So they came to our hometown and met us at a hotel that we had reserved. And basically all that happened was we all got on the bed together after me and her. She went down on me. I didn't actually go down on her that time.

Anyway, she went down on me and then the guys came over and like they, they fucked on one side of the bed and we fucked on the other side of the bed. Just like parallel play next to each other. Yeah. So that was really hot. That was actually the first time that my husband was able to like come like around with other. other people around because every time I go to the club, it's like he can get hard, but he can never get to completion just because there's a lot of noise, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of moaning.

And it's very distracting. So he was really excited about that. I was too just because it's of another first. Yeah, that's your first couple swap. And that was off the table. Like there was no sex going on for anybody, you know, in the beginning. How did you get to this place where you're like, yeah, let's fuck other people in front of each other.

Oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry, I'm so sorry. Paraly. So, like, no, I was still, I was just with my husband. Oh, no swapping. Oh, right. Parallel play. You guys are just fucking in front of another couple. Yeah, like, we're just next to each other on the same, like, queen-sized bed. So it was just hot. Yeah, that's hot. That's something new, for sure. That's another new thing. Then after that, we, so right after, like, a month after we went to the Swingers Club for the first time, nobody knows that we do this except for my best friend one of the girls that I played with

well for my bachelor's party okay so I knew I could tell her yeah yeah so I knew I could tell her about it I really I really needed to tell one of my friends so I could talk about it I knew I could tell her and oh my gosh she was just so excited about it so like not even a month after our first visit they started going like twice a month their full swap like they have fucked so many people. They're just gung ho. Do they go and you go? Yeah.

All right. So first I was like, we're never going to go at the same time. Oh, we love to go at the same time now. Now, me and her, we don't mess around anymore. Like, we'll kiss each other or would like dance on the dance war together. But we don't, we don't play with, like, quote unquote, play with each other anymore. But anyway, so we were all schedules go for her birthday party to the Swingers Club. But there was these, like, horrible tornadoes.

shut everything down in Nashville. So friends of hers who were also coming to the club, they invited all of us to come back to their house for a big house party. So we're like, okay, house party, never done that before. So we go with my friend, and that was the very first night I asked my husband to kiss another woman in front of me. That was the first time that I really had been wanting to do like a double blowjob with my husband. So we went upstairs and that was the first time I actually saw my best friend having sex with someone else like on this just displayed out on this like autumn.

And it was the weirdest thing. But I started sucking my husband's dick and I just happened to see this woman sort of in my peripherals walking behind me. And I just grabbed her and I said, hey, can you help me with this? And so she just bent down and just started like sucking his dick while I sucked his balls. And it was just, I don't know, it was just great. But it, so leading, so after all this, we sort of both realized, like, I can, we have more talks. It's like, I can play with a man. You can kiss women.

Let's just, let's be a little bit more real about this. Our last time that we, our most recent time that we went to the club, we went to the back. And there's these, like, giant dice back there. And a lot of times people, like, once again, play a game. But it usually was just strangers, like, in a big circle. And you throw these giant dice around and whatever it says on that side of the dice you do to, you know, whatever person in the circle that you choose, it'll say something like, suck, suck on another hand's neck or lick someone's thigh or kiss, suck an ear, whatever it says. And there was a couple sitting on a couch and they had their unicorn sitting in between them. And we interacted with them.

I ended up accidentally giving her a hickie on her neck during the game. It was really embarrassing. But the guy, like, he, you know, he looked on my ear. He, like, kissed my mouth. It was great. But we, after that night, though, we started talking to them on just text messaging with them. And we decided that we wanted to finally, like, have our first, like, full, not full experience with another couple. We're like, I'm going to just hang out with a guy.

and do what I want with a guy. And my husband's going to do the same thing with the woman. So now you are allowing each other to have sex with other people. Well, hang on. I told you we take things really slowly. So we went to their hometown. And the whole thought was we were just going to meet them for dinner. And we didn't think anything was going to happen.

But we got a hotel room, of course. And the whole dinner was great. And that whole time, me and the wife just, we talked. for like an hour and a half straight, like the guys talked the whole time. And it was just a really, everyone really connected. So as we were leaving, I just, I just said, hey, do you all want to come back to our hotel room? And it turns out they, they were totally prepared. Like, they already had drinks in their car ready to bring back to our hotel. She had like lingerie ready to change into. They had brought like sex games to play. So I think that they knew. And we didn't know

that that was probably going to happen. But anyway, so we all get back to the hotel. and she changes into her lingerie. We start, they made their own, like, sex jingo game. So they, like, made their own blocks and, like, wrote, like, dirty things on each of these little jingo blocks. And, yeah, you play jenga, but if something falls, you have to do what's on the thing, what's on the block that falls. And I just sort of started the whole night. So, like, that was the first time I'd kissed another guy in, like, 18 years. But this guy, gosh.

the first time you kiss another man it's like I was really excited like I thought it was going to be this great like kiss kissing like touching and the touching was great and all that but man Kathy he was this like he would like shove his tongue into my mouth like forcibly and like it was like rapid fire. If someone's like it was like almost someone like sticking two fingers in your mouth and just like like poking in and out real quick do you know what I mean? Oh my God I think everyone's kissed somebody that kisses like that it's the war. It's the war. That's like someone that doesn't know how to kiss I don't know how that person's married It's gross Well the funny thing is like he You know he went down on me twice

And he made me cut like he's good with his tongue Yeah well Obviously his wife doesn't Hasn't taught him how to fucking kiss Okay someone needs to tell that man Like you don't move your tongue like that in a woman's mouth Move it like you move it on her pussy Okay like calm it down

I kept telling him I told him at least three or four different times I kept saying slow down Slow down And I meant like, good for you. I meant his tongue. I think he maybe thought I meant other things. No, I was cool with everything that was happening.

I mean his freaking tongue. It was just so odd. But of course, once again, me and the woman got on the bed. She went down on me. And I will say that was probably the first time that a woman has made me come from going down on me. Just because I feel like women aren't nearly as good at doing that as men are. I mean, with someone who would practice, they can be. but I don't know.

Like even when I go down on women, I'm not really sure what I'm doing. Like, I know I'm, but now, like, now, like,

I'll stick, like, a finger in or, like, try to, like, massage with my hand a little bit while I'm looking. And,

like, I try to do circles and stuff, but I don't know that, I just don't know. It seems like we would know instinctually as women, but I just don't feel like we do. But so she went down with me first and then sort of me, like,

my husband sort of just went over there with her. and I went over here with her husband. And I started sucking her. So we were all, we were all basically naked at this point. But I, I went down and I started sucking his dick. And once again, this guy is great, right? Like, we had so much fun. But his dick was so much smaller than I am used to.

Or like, so my husband's dick is like probably about like seven inches or so. And this guy's dick was probably like, probably like, oh gosh, Kathy, four maybe. And it was like thin. Uh-huh. So I just, not that I want some giant dick in my mouth, I was just more excited like my first time. Kissing and going down another guy and like 18 years, it's going to be all, I had it all blown up in my head, right?

And it was just not. But as I was going down on him, he started to come. And I hadn't been, I sucked on his balls. And I guess his wife doesn't suck on his. balls. I just thought that's what all women did, but I guess they don't. Like, I always suck on my husband's balls. But right after I started doing that, I went back to his cock, and he just started coming a lot. So I was trying to take it in my mouth. But after a minute, it was just like, I could, it was too much liquid. Like, I couldn't keep it in my mouth anymore. And I prefer not

to swallow some other man's jiz. So I like, raise my head up. But next thing I know, Kathy, he's like, like, like, I kept telling my husband, It was almost like male squirting. I don't know if that's the thing, but I've never seen so much come out of one person. Oh, yeah. You emailed me about this guy. It was so, it was so why. I mean, he got the, he got the bed wet.

He got the floor wet. It was on me, like on my clothes, like, or my clothes, my body. He just kept coming and coming. And I thought, this is, and maybe he, like, had denied himself for a few days leading up to, like, meeting up with us or something. And it kind of smelled like, like, ranch Doritos. It was just very odd. I'm just not used to there being a smell. And they're being so much liquid.

Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, it was weird. And like I said, so, and during this whole time, like, my husband was eating her out. She, you know, was sucking his dick. And she was really, really determined to make my husband come. So at one point, they were about to leave. And next thing, we all start back up again. Like, I hop on this.

guy's lap. I'm like grinding on him. And then I like, I don't know, we're making out. And I look over and, man, she is just like, she sucked his dick so hard that his dick was red the entire next day because she was like, she was like a vacuum. You know what I mean? But he eventually, he eventually finally came, which again, it was just really surprising. So, like, overall, they, they both are really good, what they do. It's just certain things were just a little odd. But no, we still, so the whole no kissing thing went out the, went out the door because they were making out, we were making out. And the whole like, me and another guy thing went out the door, but we still do not do, we still don't do swapping. You know what I mean? We still don't fuck other people.

And we talk about that so much. And it's almost like for us, at this point, like I said, we've been doing this for about two years almost. And at this point, I feel like we're at a good spot because we finally both realize that we don't just want to find some huge. unicorn because that was the whole thing let's find a unicorn and once you kind of meet some unicorns they they tend to be a little arrogant a little some of them full of themselves like oh like i'm giving you some special treat so you got to treat me like a queen or something and i like to treat everyone the same just because you're coming into our relationship doesn't mean i have to bow down to you or something so we decided we like to hang out more with couples but i'm not sure right now where we're at if fucking another couple is going to add anything to what, you know, what this lifestyle has already

brought to us because we've come, we're, you know, we're so much closer. We just, you know, the way we talk to each other, the way we interact, we, we touch each other, like, all every day, we, we text all day long. Like, it's just been, I don't know, it's just reignited our, I don't know, fire for us. I'm not sure how to say it, but it's, I don't know, it's just been great. And I just also really wanted to tell you, like, a lot of this and a lot of the things that we've learned about and, like, things to do. We've learned from your show. And so I really appreciate what you do. Like, you've really helped us in our quote-unquote journey.

So, I mean, like, what is next on your guys list? You're obviously still super horny. You're only two years into that change that occurs that women get like, oh, my God, it's really crazy horny. Are you still pegging your husband or what other kinds of things are on your guy's bucket list? Oh yeah, so we we just did that a couple nights ago. I got that toy in that you told everybody about. We just got that in a few days ago. So we just pegged on.

We had this giant beanbag mattress. So once again, it's like a perfect. So I was able, like I said, to fuck him while I have that in his ass. So he asked me to do that night before last, actually. So we do that a lot. We found we got these great like bondage ropes for the bed, you know. So like you put, he wraps my, both my feet and both sides of the bed, straps them in, and both my arms, and just, you know,

fucks me, plays with me, kind of tortures me in a way. But our next trip is just in a couple weeks, and it's for his birthday. We've invited that couple that we did the whole last full swap. They call it like full soft swapping, where everyone does everything except fucking. So they're coming. And then this lady that we talked to on that site that I mentioned before, I guess her husband's a cuck. She's like a hot wife sort of scenario.

And so her and my husband have been talking online. She is actually going to come and meet us there at the club for my husband's birthday. So because we still haven't really had a quote unquote threesome with a woman where it's just me and my husband and another woman. and no one else playing because the husband of this couple he doesn't even he won't even come and watch or if he's if he does come to the club with her he'll like go and sit out in a bar area while the three of us go back to the back so I'm a little nervous about it but I'm excited just because I told him from the get go yeah we can have a threesome with another woman and so I've been

thinking that I might I might be okay with him fucking her I don't know I'm still it's it's not off the table, but it's something that we've talked about. And he's told me before it's not something he needs, but I might really enjoy it because I enjoy watching him do everything else with women, and I enjoy them doing everything else to him. So I would think I would be okay with it. I don't know. I just, I don't know what my holdup is. It's like the kissing thing. It makes no sense because everything else has been done. What difference does it make? So that's in a couple weeks. I'm not sure what's going to happen there. Well, listen, you have to just honor what that is in you right now. That feels that way. I don't know why you can't put it together, but maybe you need to

think about it more and understand where it's coming from. And then maybe you could work yourself through it, but I wouldn't try to push past it as long as you feel that way and that's where you're at. Just to honor it. It doesn't matter why you feel that way. I think it's a matter of just like knowing that you do and respecting that. It doesn't need to make sense to anyone, even to you. Like you don't even know why you feel that way, but you do kind of feel that way. So heed that warning a little bit. Don't jump into anything. It sounds like, listen, you and your husband have a very good relationship. So say, God forbid, you try to do something that you don't feel right about and then you're like horrified. It doesn't sound like it's going to make or break your relationship, right? You might just

feel bad about it for a week. But you and your husband have good communication. You'll be able to talk through it and stuff. But you don't need to force yourself to do things if you don't want to. And it doesn't matter, like I said, even if it doesn't make sense even to you, it's just how you feel at the moment. And that doesn't mean that three weeks from now you might be like, oh, you know what? I'm really fucking horny for you to see somebody like do it.

And it doesn't mean also that you might feel totally fine about something and you'll do it. And then you'll be like, oh, you know what? Maybe that wasn't something that I was into. I mean, you really never know, but I think he, those warnings in yourself. And it's okay and allow yourself to have those boundaries right now. You guys just started. You're two years into it.

You guys are doing a lot of fun stuff together. You're super open. You, you know, you guys are doing things the right way. I love that. You said, you take things slowly. And so you're taking things slowly. And maybe, like I said, those little boundaries are still there for you because that's just where you're at right now. And you don't need to rush to get there if you don't want to.

That's all I'm saying. I think you're totally right. It reminds me of who went to the club for New Year's Eve. And we had a great time. And at one point, we were dancing on the dance floor with another couple. So it was me with the husband of this other couple and my husband with the wife of this other couple. And we were like, everyone was grinding on each other. I was grinding on the husband.

He was like rubbing me all over. I was like stroking his cough and I look over and she's doing the same thing to my husband. He's touching Carl over. But I had my back turned to them at one point on the dance floor. And then I mean, you know, we turned back around as we're dancing and moving around each other. And my husband and his wife are just fully making out. Now, to this point, like, I've only quote unquote allowed him to kiss another woman one time because I was there and I wanted it to happen. And it just really, it really hurt.

Like, I couldn't believe how upset I was, even though, like, I was just watching him basically fingering her on the dance floor and her basically like stroke, getting him off via handjob almost on the dance floor. Like, why did I? It really hurt, though. And we had to leave. Like, we left immediately. He saw the look at my eye and we got our shit and we got out of there because, and we didn't even want to talk to him. I was so mad. I was not mad.

I was just hurt. And so I think you're right. I don't, that's why I think that's why I'm so nervous about it. Like it's something I feel like I want to happen. But that little bitty thing right there really, really set us back. We had to step out from the quote unquote lifestyle for like two months because I was still. So it was just a betrayal because we had said we had that boundary set and he just broke it. So I think that's more of what that was.

But I don't. I think I think you're totally right though. I just don't, I just don't want, we don't, we're done with bad things happening because we've, we've left the club many a night and had fights in the hotel room afterwards about the dumbest stuff. And, and we, we work through them all. And I think that's the best part about this is, yeah, like, you're going to go and you're having a great time. And the weirdest, smallest thing might happen. And you're back to the hotel room.

And yeah, you're going to have great sex. But you're also probably going to have a fight about it. for the first few times you go. But we're both done with that. Like we just want everything to be positive because if it's not positive, then why are we doing it? So that's another thing about the whole sex for both of us. Like he he doesn't want to see me do that with another guy, of course. Well, listen, that's your proof right there.

You know what I mean? You have to like, like even the most professional swingers, professional open couples to this day, of my friend's doctor guy who's been on the show and him and his girl you couldn't be more open than them they're swinging all the time they're out fucking millions of people all over the world and every now and then they run into something that becomes an issue for them it's never going to be like oh no human being emotions come into play right at the end of the day you're a human being and some days especially women your hormones are at play you're still hormonal maybe one day it's just the way the wind blows something bothers you and it didn't every other time that's normal life stuff and

think what's most important in these situations is you do have that communication open and you can talk through things because you need to know that those times are going to happen and they happen to most people and the people who can weather through them are the people that do have those open lines of communication and do feel okay to speak up for themselves and do tend to their feelings. If you feel a certain way, bring it up, talk it out, let the other person know. That's what it's about. It's not thinking you're going to get to this place. And maybe you will 20 years down the line, but especially in the beginning that you're going to get to a place where no one ever doesn't have one feeling.

Because like I said, I've heard from professional people that are completely open and down for everything. And every now and then they might feel a little jealousy, or they might feel a little butt hurt for one reason or another. Like I said, just the way the wind blew that day, how they're feeling that day for some reason. And it doesn't matter why you feel that way. What matters is that you do and that your partner understands it and that you're able to talk it out. out and you have a partner that respects that you're feeling that way and it talks it out with you. That's what it's about. It's not about saying no one, you're never going to have that stuff and that's never going to come up because it will. And it sounds like you guys are,

you guys roll that way and that's, that will be the key to your success moving forward. Just continue to do that. I think, I think you're right. I am, I totally agree. I was, just remembered, I was going to tell you about my recent girls trip that I went on. I forgot to mentioned this earlier. So me and the girl that, from the bachelor party that I got into the lifestyle, me and her and two other women all went and stayed in a, you know, Airbnb for a couple of nights just to have a girl, I haven't had a girl's trip in like eight years or something, just kids life. So, like I said, she, she plays with women, I play with women. And one of the women that came with us, I just recently met maybe like a year and a half ago.

And we have played around here and there a few times. She actually, when I don't listen to me and my husband fuck on the phone, like we had her on speakerphone and she just wanted to listen to us to have sex. And her husband has no clue that she's done these things. Like she, he doesn't know that me and her have gone down on each other in their house and stuff. It makes me, that makes me feel kind of bad, but he's kind of a dick also. So I don't know. So we all went on this girl's trip.

And the second night, our one really vanilla friend, she fell asleep early. She passed out. And the three of us were in the hot tub. And so my best friend started playing around with my new friend. I got out of the hot tub to sort of let them have their time. Because like I said, me and my best friend, we don't really play anymore since that time at the bachelor's party. But after we all, they came back inside, somehow or another, we all ended up. in a bedroom together and next thing you know the three of us are in the bed

together my best friend and the other girl there she's she's going down my best friend as I'm like behind her like you know looking looking her from behind and then I start fingering my best friend and so we're all just like having this three-way like I don't know girls play session I guess you could call it and it was it was a lot of fun but at one point so my new friend she has really long hair and i just got my nose pierced and my nose ring got stuck in her hair and it it basically ripped my nose ring out and it was just i don't know it was a really it was a really interesting experience just because i haven't played with my best friend a long time but and then oh and the night before that my new

friend i told her i mean her had to share a room and so i was going to go to go and the I was like, I'm going to go take a shower. And next thing you know, she comes into the bathroom. And she's butt naked. And, you know, of course, I'm in the shower. And I was like, hey, what you doing? Because I wasn't expecting to play with her on this trip. And next thing, you know, she just gets in the shower.

I don't hear you. I don't hear you. I can't hear you. You're not being taped. Hello? I don't hear you. The whole trip was really, really fun. I didn't hear one word.

No, no, I didn't hear one word you said. I have to cut this whole thing out because it's going too long. And I don't remember where you got, you got cut off. There was like the last five minutes. Can you tell the last five minutes? Sorry. I was like saying, I can't hear you. I can't hear you, but you didn't hear me.

Really? Yeah. So weird. What's happening here? Yeah. Okay. Can you hear me? Yes.

Okay. Okay. So I wanted this girl's trip with my best friend, the one that I got into the lifestyle and a couple of other girlfriends. One I met like a year ago. can you hear me i can now but i can't hear the whole story again start in the middle i don't remember where you left okay okay i mean i don't have time my son's coming home in like 10 minutes okay so anyway the our vanilla friend she went to bed early i'll let my best friend and the new girlfriend play around

the hot tub i just i got out i was just going to let them have their time but somehow the three of us ended up in a bedroom together and my best friend the new girl and he all ended up on the bed the new girl is going down on my best friend. I'm behind the new girl, like going, like, going down and, like, fingering her from behind. Lots of fingering. My nose ring got stuck in my friend's hair, ripped it out. That was basically all I wanted to say about that. Well, listen, honestly, I love all your stories.

People are going to love your story. Even though you think you haven't done much, I feel like you said that in your email or something. But you have it a lot. You guys have done a lot, okay? Now, listen, since you listen to my show, that sometimes I get. picks for people for my Patreon if you want to send some hot R rated picks nothing X rated I'll give you access to my Discord where you could put whatever you want on there afterwards but I will give you private access for that keep that stuff for over there if you want to and even if you don't want to do

X rates if you just go on to Discord you could talk to my listeners but send me some hot picks of you anonymous ones right to my email sooner than later because girl episodes always air super quick so get it to me sooner than later okay okay I'll get it to you today all right you're the best thanks so much for calling in. Okay. Thank you so much, Kathy. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over-the-top like erotica. I

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