Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 830 - FETISH FRIDAY: Mike is Into Gloryholes, Bathhouses, Crossdressing and More

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Mike (episode 580) is into gloryholes, bathhouses, crossdressing and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including his trips to the gloryhole and what he does ...when he’s there, the demographics of the people that he sees there, the two different bathhouses he goes to and what exactly goes down there, the 6 guy train he had at one of the bathhouses and exactly what went down, the other train he participated in while crossdressed and exactly what went down that time, how he’s into being the “bitch” now and digs crossdressing, his Grindr hook ups and who he has met on there, the young black guy he met and exactly what went down with him at the first time they met, the second time they met and exactly what went down that time, the guy and the trans woman couple he met on GRINDR and what went down with them during their hook ups, how and why he got past feeling weird about what he does and how that has changed things for him plus a whole lot more. **To see a pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:11 I just gave you as in the description. So today I have on Mike. Mike does not effing disappoint. He is so funny to me. He's a guy that has called him before. He's lived a very interesting life. He was married at one time. a woman he was with. He had an open life, lived in the lifestyle, and she left him for a bowl.
Starting point is 00:02:31 He's very into Guy and Guy Action. This time he called in to talk all about all of his crazy experiences he's had in the past year. The past year he's come into his own. He's accepted this part of his life, and he's having a lot of fun. He talks about his glory whole experiences. He talks about all of his hot experiences at the bathhouse. He talks about the trains, two specific trains that involved a lot of people, okay, on this episode. He also talks about all his grinder hookups. He does like to cross-dress sometimes. He talks about that and when he does that and what goes down and it's a super interesting episode with lots of crazy stories. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Mike. Hey, Mike, welcome back to the strictly
Starting point is 00:03:15 anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm well. How are you? I'm good. Listen, Mike, you've got some, you lead a very interesting life. And what I love about you is that you get that you lead a very interesting life. Like every time you tell a story, you laugh like straight up at yourself. It's like kind of funny. I do. You have this way about yourself. Like even you look at your life and you're like, I can't fucking believe this shit.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Because you have a crazy life. In the past, you did call up and you gave me some really great stories, true stories, of being with a woman and having an open marriage and then losing her to a ball. Crazy story. and then all this guy on guy action stuff that you do and that you're into, you're into a lot of different things. And we're going to talk about all the action you've had since. And you're single now. So you're not doing anything like behind anyone's back.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You lost your wife to ball. I'm assuming you haven't had a relationship with a woman. But you've been hooking up with a lot of people. You go to glory holes. You do glory holes. You do go to bath houses. You've had a couple trains. You've done a lot of grinder.
Starting point is 00:04:19 hookups with couples, with singles. You've hooked it. You do some cross-dressing stuff. I'll talk about that at the end. And trans and hooking up with trans people, I'm assuming. I think you said that. So we're going to get into it all. I don't know sometimes with you, Mike, whether we have enough time for all your fucking stories, right?
Starting point is 00:04:36 But let's start out. Probably not. I know. But I'm going to keep you on track. Let's start out with like the glorioles. Where do you find those? Are they at like adult bookstores in your neighborhood or whatever? There's one that's at an adult bookstore.
Starting point is 00:04:49 and then there are actually two that are an adult bookstore and then one is just a stand-alone video arcade. Oh, okay. And so you go to those places all the time. And are you like participating and getting people to participate with you? Are you doing both things in there? What goes down in the glory holes when you go? I don't, I go alone and I just kind of play it by year and see what comes along.
Starting point is 00:05:18 No, but I mean like, look. Listen, sometimes someone's like putting a dick and someone's sucking it and then sometimes, you know, vice versa. And some people only will, you know, suck the dick. Some people get their dick suck. Do you do both? I do both. Mm-hmm. I do both, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But for me, it's more about, I mean, I love having my dick suck, but for me, it's, I enjoy doing it just as much. Yeah. So you love when the dick comes through the hole for you. Yeah. Pretty much. Sometimes, sometimes I'll leave the door open. Not open, but it's a thing in there. If you leave the door unlocked, people will try to open the door to see if it's unlocked.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Uh-huh. Yeah, so sometimes depending on my mood, I'll leave the door unlocked. And so if you leave the door unlocked, what you're kind of saying is like, hey, if you open the door and I'm in there, you could come in. Correct. And then what goes down? Tell me those experiences. I don't understand. It's a lot of times somebody will come in and if I'm into it, I'll blow them inside the booth
Starting point is 00:06:25 while somebody else is sticking their dick through the hole in the wall and you know what I mean? So you're getting a lot of, a lot of cock, is that what you said? Cock, yeah, a lot of cock. I shouldn't have interrupted that funny sentence. So you got one guy over here and then the guy in the room and stuff. So it's like a little mini threesome. Yeah, exactly, sometimes more. Interesting. Now, let me ask you this, because I don't think I've ever asked this before,
Starting point is 00:06:51 like, these glory holes are set up one next to another. Are there always two and it's just one hole, or is it sometimes, like, you go in one and there's a hole on each side, so you could have two dicks in at the same time? I haven't seen any of the, all the ones I know of all one hole. Yeah, you'd think how horny guys are, they do them with two holes, three holes. You know what I mean? I would embrace that. Yeah, it sounds like it. That's why you're leaving your door open. You need more decks.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Right? Yeah, pretty much. The more the better. The more the better, that's debauchery. Yeah, you are debauchess. Who do you say no to when they walk through the door? If I'm into it, what are you not into? I don't like, like, bummy, cruddy. I'm like into, well, people who present themselves reasonably well, if that makes sense. Like I'm not into the homeless men or something. So you're looking for someone that looks like they're take care of their personal hygiene.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I could see how that would be a big turnoff. Yeah. It's a major turnoff. And I think, listen, I think what's super interesting is that most people would think that the majority of people in those places are, you know, like creepy, dirty, homeless looking people, right? But I'm sure that's not the case, right? No, it's really not. Yeah. What's the demographic that you see there?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Tell the people the truth. Honestly, it's probably 90, high 90% of it's single men. But there are like couples that come into guys who bring their girlfriend or their wife there. They go to town like I do. Do you hook up with those two? I have in the past, yeah. Yeah, that's a good time. I like women too.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Of course. And now, do they stay on the other side or those have come through the door for you? Usually they'll, every time I've come across couples in there, they always go and they'll go into a booth together. Yeah. And usually they'll leave the door cracked. Well, sometimes they'll just use the hole and leave the door locked. Uh-huh. But there's one couple that I've seen more than once.
Starting point is 00:09:07 they're pretty regular actually I think they have some videos online too but they'll go in there yeah they'll go in and she'll like take every dick that can every dick that comes their way and I've seen her with four or five guys at the time in there
Starting point is 00:09:23 and just fucking in blowing and everything she's wild she's a wilder and how do you know they have videos because you just do you know them and they said hey check us out over here where are there videos that you know that they are. I don't know them. I know them, but I don't, it's not well.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I know them from the swinger circle. They run in a lot of the circles that I used to run in. Oh, so you kind of know them to know that if they're online, you would know they're online. Yeah, well, they record pretty much everything they do there, and then they post it. Oh, okay. So did they record you and they had to give you the heads up?
Starting point is 00:10:04 no i've never i i never done that oh okay interesting you should tell them to come on my show they probably would like that actually they're pretty wild yeah yeah maybe you'll give me their contact you like their information i could go find them so wait so listen i know that you also go to bathhouses too is that more your thing now than the glory holes that's yeah that's pretty much my my thing for the most spot and how were they set up and what goes down there different ones that I go to. I usually, I probably go once, maybe twice a week. Wow. There's one. Yeah, there's one that I go to. It's, you know, it's set up where you come in and you check in.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And I usually get a room because you can get a room or you can get a locker. Uh-huh. I get a room. It's the small little private rooms with a little twin bed. That's what I go for. And usually I'll get there and I'll shower and then there's like a steam room in a sauna, an open lounging area. and then there's another open area in the back with this, like, a TV with one playing. And, yeah. And now, is it, like, clothing optional? Can you walk out there with a bathing sit on or is just everyone naked?
Starting point is 00:11:17 You get when you check in, you get a towel and all that. So almost everybody walks around with towels on. Okay. You can walk around naked if you want to, or I guess with clothes if you wanted to. Actually, I've seen somebody dressed walking around in there before it's a little log. I can imagine. So you go out, you go in your towel, and then is there all action going on down in front of everybody, or does everyone have to take it back to the room? No, it's, like I said, there's a room in the back with the TV and the porn playing, like this stuff goes down in there,
Starting point is 00:11:49 stuff goes down on the sauna, in the steam room. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's pretty wide open. Now, I know, like, when I've talked to, like, people who go to swingers clubs, I get, like, all the etiquette that goes down there. Is there any kind of etiquette in a bathroom? house or because you're dealing with men, hooking up with men. It's kind of like a free-for-all. Like you could just go and start hooking up with anyone or is there, do you have to ask somebody? Like how does that shit go down there? I, for me, I'll go, I enjoy, I don't mind like an audience or whatever. So I enjoy going into the sauna or the steam and pretty much the etiquette. If I go in there and I see a guy,
Starting point is 00:12:29 he's got his towels off and he's. stroking his dick or whatever. That's kind of like an invitation. Hey, come here. Yeah, totally. That's kind of how I go about it. Yeah. The guys, I think, I think, I think in that world where, uh, we're a little more open,
Starting point is 00:12:49 I think to, like, there's etiquette, but not, you know what I mean? Of course. No, that's why I ask because I think that there probably would be way less of that, because guys are wired differently than women. They just kind of like variety. You're not as picky. I think women, well, I know as a woman, you know, I'm way more picky. It's not like whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I think guys just roll very different. So most likely, guys sitting there with a heart on you, you're going to hook up and he's going to be interested in it. It's not going to be a lot of no, I'm not into you kind of thing. Exactly. And I've heard the saying I've heard, and I believe it is men fuck who they can, women fuck who they want. True, true.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, it's true. that's kind of how it is. Well, listen, I laughed when you said I go two times a week. But, you know, literally what I thought right after that is that's probably about, right, for a guy your age that you want to release. And you get to go to a place. You're like luckier than a hetero guy, right? You get to go to a place two times a week where you know for sure you're going to get banged out in whatever way you're going to, right? Like you're going to have that release somehow.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's going to go down because there's going to be a ton of guys there down for some action. It's like a regular guy that's into checks. And he's single. He's lucky if he's getting late two times a week if he doesn't have a partner. Do you know what I'm saying? Exactly. And it's everybody there is pretty much there for the same reason. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:13 A bad night is it's dead. And at the end of the night, I'll jerk off and call it a day. Right. But how many times do you have those bad night? It's not to say. Not as often. They had the exception, I would say. That's what I would think, because it's guys.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It's the same shit. Every guy wants to release a couple of times. A girl could go a week without getting fucked, but most guys can't. Or if they didn't have to, they wouldn't. So why wouldn't a guy, if they're into this kind of guy and guy action, there's a bathhouse in their area, why wouldn't they be going? I would assume that it's always kind of got enough guys in there to get some action going down. That's the difference between men and women.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Usually, but occasionally you'll go and then it'll be like two people. in the place. It happens sometimes. Of course, but rarely. Yeah. So, and so what's the kind of stuff that you've done there? Like, how far do you go? Is it just like mostly blow jobs? Do people do a bottom top? I don't know what you're into. I don't, I don't, I'm not a top per se. I've done it before, actually last week, but it's not really my thing. I'm more of a bottom. And I've gotten into this thing now where I'll go into the sauna and I've pulled a couple of trains in there recently. Oh, yeah, so what's a train? Like how many guys? I did one a couple of weeks ago. It was six. What?
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, it was six. How does that get started? Were you the one that wrangled them all up or was there a train going on and you got involved? How does that work? I went in and there were two guys in there. and they were both jerking off. So the way it set up is there's a lower bench and then a higher bench, if you know what I mean. So these two guys, they were sitting on the lower end. So I started blowing one guy and then the other guy kind of slid over. So now I'm blowing both of them. I was on my knees blowing both of them.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And that went on for a little bit. and then one of them sat up higher, so I stood up, he sat up on the higher bench. So I stood up and I'm blowing him and the other guy got behind me and was smacking my ass and going back and forth. And a couple more guys ended up coming in and the next thing you know, I'm getting railed from behind. And yeah. But you're laugh. Yeah, it was just wild. Like, it was just wild.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, but what's going on? And he's like a train is each. There's six guys and they're all like inside each other together, right? That's what's going down? No, no. They're all, I'm in the center and I'm blowing all these guys. I'm getting and there's one behind me, he's pounding me out from the back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You know what I mean? Gang bang? It was a gang bang, essentially, yeah. Oh, my. Pretty much. Yeah. That's pretty much what it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And what were the, like, what's the demographics of all those guys? Do you even know? or care? I know for sure one of them was married. How do you know he had his ring on? He had his ring on, which I was surprised. Yeah. Doesn't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:17:29 No, apparently not, yeah. But I took six of them. Wow. Six, like six, so you blew all of them? Did all of them top you? They all fuck me, and I blew all of them. Wow. Now, I'm going to ask this, because sometimes I do, sometimes I don't,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but then sometimes they're like, why didn't you ask about condoms? Blah, blah, blah. Do you use condoms? Almost always. They're there. They supply them. That's cool. Yeah. They're free. I have, I've had occasions.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I mean, I've done it or I haven't. But you're, the majority of the time, like in this train situation where you're having this, like, gang bang with six guys, there's condoms being used. Yeah, with condoms being used. And all of them ended up coming on my face. Oh, Bukaki, you got to add that in. Yeah. You're so funny.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah. I've done that before. but not that much. Oh, my God. Like not as much as I, that was like it was, yeah. Filled up all over your face, every single guy. It was all, I had a lot of time getting out of there after. Guys are such fucking pigs.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It was in my eyes. I couldn't see. I'm like, and it burns. I'm sorry, I've gotten it in my eye. Doesn't it burn? It stays, yeah, it definitely stays. But I'm assuming you all fucking loved it. You, them seeing it.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I know I did. I know. I did. That's that's kind of my thing. Being degraded. Yeah, I think that's definitely my thing. And I'm like, when guys ask me, what's your thing or whatever? I always tell them like, make me a bitch. That's what I want to be.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, there is. I talked a whole bunch about being degraded and jizzing on faces and stuff like that. Some people are really into that. Some people aren't. I think a lot of guys, like a lot of, some people like to receive that and some people like to do that. So I think you went when that Bukaki went down, you're saying, oh, it was hot to me. Yeah, because you love that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You love being the receiver of that. But a lot of people love being on the other side, right? All those guys were probably totally into degrading you. There's like that, that kink goes both ways. One of them, yeah, one of them was really into it and were aggressive about it. Really? Why? He had a really big dick.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah. So he's in front of me. I'm sucking his dick. I'm getting fucked at the same time. And he just kept, he would pull it out and he was smacking me in the face with his cock. And it was big. It was like, pow, pow, pow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And he kept like grabbing me by the face. And yeah, he was super aggressive. And, yeah. And you liked that? I do like that, yeah. Yeah. Do you see a lot of the same people when you go? Or is it always like a different rotation of people in there, considering it's like close by?
Starting point is 00:20:14 I see a lot of the. A lot of the same faces. Yeah, I see a lot of the same. You see new ones too, but I see a lot of the same faces. Now, listen, there's this whole post-knit clarity thing that goes on, right? We all know it. It even happens for women, too, okay? Like, after I'm done, I'm like, sometimes I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:31 So you're like Googling porn or something? What happens to everybody? So do you ever have that experience? Or you're just so used to doing what you're doing, like, that you don't ever have that feeling? Like, after you just got banged out by six guys and you got calm all over your face and you've come? Are you like, oh my God, I got to get the fuck out of here? Or are you just, oh, I'm going to go again? I used to be like that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. A long time. Not anymore now. No, not anymore. So that could go away. It went away for me for the most part. Yeah, that's interesting. No, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So it's like you did it for so, like you've been doing this kind of stuff for so long. In the beginning, you did have that feeling. The beginning, I was, yeah, the beginning, like, I would do whatever I did. I would have super anxiety after. Yeah. And be like, but that's, yeah, that's pretty much gone. Like I remember, I can remember, like, going when I first started going long, long time ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And I do whatever I did. And then I, when I would leave, I would, like, I would, like, jet to my car as fast as I could. Get out of it. Yeah, totally. You know what I mean? Check it in and checking out. Like, no small talk. Like, now when I go in there, it's different now.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You're more comfortable. Do you feel like it's because you've accepted this part of you more or you're just used to it? Is there any reason for that, do you think? I think, I think acceptance is huge. Okay, cool. Yeah. It's, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It doesn't, I don't want to say, well, maybe I guess I have embraced it. Yeah, but that's what it's about. That's the difference of you back in the day when you'd run the fuck out of there as opposed to you now. Exactly. Yeah, that's interesting. How long, like how many years? Has this been that you've been embracing this side of you? To the, with the comfort level I'm at now, it's probably been, I don't know, a year or more.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah. I've been very comfortable. Yeah, okay. So that just came about. That's interesting. Because, listen, there was a long time where you were doing this, like you were married. You had a lot of other kinds of things. You're just kind of free and now doing your own thing and coming to terms with who you are and what you're into and being okay with it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Exactly. Yeah, that's interesting. that must feel great for you. That must be very freeing. It is. It's definitely, I definitely am in a better place with it now than I've ever been. Yeah, because that post-nut clarity thing doesn't feel good. It doesn't make you not go back, right?
Starting point is 00:23:00 But it still is like a not cool thing. It must be so much better to kind of do the train, do the Bacoccaki, get into all the nasty things that you're into and be able to like do a hang and maybe do it again if you want to. and not have to run out and feel terrible about yourself. Yeah, I've done that. I've done that. That night, the story I just told you about after that, I went and show it off.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah. And I went back to my room and I ended up getting with somebody else in my room after that because I wasn't done. Yeah, so many, yeah, 30 minutes later, 20 minutes later, you're horny again. well I didn't I didn't I didn't come during that oh okay you didn't I never came okay until after in my room with somebody else oh my god hilarious so you did need that guy maybe to finish you off well yeah it was a mutual thing now listen when you're doing the bucaki and the train and all that shit and you're not coming are you into being denied that or not doing that and just because so you want because you want to make it sort of last
Starting point is 00:24:07 honestly I wouldn't like when that's going on when that particular time when that was going on. I never even thought about it, honestly. It was, I never even thought about it. So you were just, like, aroused the whole time and didn't come. Because, listen, I think sometimes after you come, then you can't go or you need a break or something. So I would assume not coming through that whole experience helps make it last longer for you. Yeah, it's definitely because, yeah, because after you kind of lose you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, you go into your man cave, you want to go. That's what they say. Something like that. although I've seen, I've seen, I've seen others that don't. Yeah, yeah, but that's, that's you. You're typical like that. I think that's more the typical guy. Yeah, I would agree with that because guys that aren't like that are kind of like the exception.
Starting point is 00:24:53 There's one that I know, one in particular that I know that can, a guy I've met on Grindr and like he can, I kind of see him semi-regularly now and he can, he can come and take a friend of. five-minute break and then go right back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he a young guy? He's 22, yeah. Yeah, there you go. How many trains have you had? Because I know the next thing on my list was going to go. So that was a six-guy train. What was the other one? And then we're going to talk about your grinder hookups because I know you've had a lot of those too. That was, yeah, that was the other one was at the other. There's another bathhouse that I go to. And the other one was there and that was four guys. Oh, my God. It was that recently too. Because you say, you've kind of come into acceptance this past year.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm assuming that a lot of the stuff we're talking about is just in this past year? Oh, yeah, the stuff we're talking about right now, yeah, it's all very recent in the last few weeks. Yeah, this is what I always tell my guy friends who are straight. This is the kind of life you could live if you were, like, opened up to guys, if you opened up to guys. This is the kind of action you could get whenever you want.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah, guys, yeah, we're different animals. Yeah, so when you're, if you're attracted to a guy or that's like your end goal, It's a lot easier to get, to be fulfilled and to get some action whenever you want it. You've got two bath houses in your neighborhood. Have you ever pumped into anyone that you know there, like that you didn't know that they were that way? I did pull. There was one time where I did pull up and park. And it's funny because usually parking can be kind of hard. Usually can't get a spot real close.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And this one day I got a spot right outside and I pulled up. And I hadn't gotten out of my car. and I'm looking over by the door and I see a guy come out and it's a guy I know from the Swinger lifestyle. Yeah. And he came out and he didn't see me and I didn't want him to see me because number one, nobody in my personal life, I don't share that stuff with them. And he's a guy who I'm not sure if he's married.
Starting point is 00:27:03 He definitely has a partner, a woman partner. I was just surprised to see him come out of there. Because what some people don't know, and I know this from my show, and people in the lifestyle know this, is that in the lifestyle, there is still a taboo. The guy and guy action is still taboo. So a lot of people play in the lifestyle, and they don't cop to the fact that their guy is into guy and guy action.
Starting point is 00:27:27 What I've been told by people that had up swingers clubs and people that are heavy into the scene, everyone knows who those guys are, but it's kind of like an unspoken thing. Like people aren't really out and proud about that, even if they're into it. Even in that world where people are so open about everything else, right? So here's this guy that you know you've seen at the swingers clubs or parties from the lifestyle. But now you're like, oh, this is a different side of him that you didn't know about.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I had no clue. I saw him come out and I was like, holy shit. But would he have had that clue about you back in the day from when you were in the lifestyle? Did you roll the same way? That was like a secret part of your life? Yeah, nobody, he would have been surprised to see me, I'm sure. Both of you. So even though you were both into guys, like no one puts that out on the table in that world, which is weird if you think about it.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Not many do. I mean, there are, I have seen those that do, but they're rare. Yeah, and listen, my show is here to say that it's not rare for guys to be into guys. Okay, I could get, you know, your episode airs. I'm going to get 15 guys, 20 guys emailing me to be on the show with the same shit, you know, the same kind of story, doing the same stuff, but they just can't cop to it. Just like you never copped to it when you were in the lifestyle, and he didn't either. Because even in that world, they're still a taboo.
Starting point is 00:28:42 But look at all these people that are in the bathhouse that you're going to in all these places. Who are these people? They're regular people. Exactly. And it's, yeah, the field is very expansive. And like you said, you're not seeing, like, I think sometimes people think, like, what kind of people do this? creepy people, perverts. And I'm like, no, there is no pervert island.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Like, these are just these regular people that are walking around in your life, might be your uncle, might be your husband, and might be your friend's boyfriend. These are just regular people. That's what you see when you go to these places, I'm assuming. True story. Yeah. And I've hooked up with many married guys.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah, I know. I've been hearing these stories since the dawn of time. It always amazed me what married guys are doing behind their wives' backs. So, all right, so you did, so you had to train with four people at the other. bathhouse. Did you wrangle those people too? Was there Bukaki, same shit, like everything that went down? What happened at that train? That was, that's another bathhouse. I go there probably twice a month or so. It's a couple of times a month. They have a theme night where it's for like transsexuals and cross dresses. Huh?
Starting point is 00:29:50 And so I go, I usually go to those as a tool, like two of them a month. I usually go to both of those and I'll, I'll cross dress. And yeah. And that was that was kind of a. similar thing. It wasn't in the sauna. It was just in an open one open playroom. And I just started with one and then other people just came and joined it and it's kind of how it went down. And it wound up to be
Starting point is 00:30:15 four guys including you or four more guys with you? Four more with me. So five of us total. So that six person train was six guys and you. And so this four person's four guys and did the same thing go down again with this one? Like it was just like you doing everything to all the guys?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. Yeah. This was in an open, an open play area with a king-sized bed. So it just started with me and one guy on the bed and then a couple more came and joined. And that's pretty much how it went. Next thing I know, off came to get off game the panties and I'm getting fucked and sucking dick and get my ass lit up. One guy was just smacking the shit out of my ass. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And you like all this because you like to be the bitch, right? So whatever this person wants to do to you, like that's hot for you. Yeah, I'm definitely into that. It's something I discovered recently. Which is what, that you like to be the bitch? I like having my ass smacked and my hair pulled. Yeah. So, I mean, my ass was sore for three days after that night.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Really? Oh, my God. He's mad me so fucking hot. But I loved it at the same time. Yeah, I love when you laugh at your stories. It's hilarious to me. Yeah. But like it's so great that you're single now too because how do you hide that shit if you're coming home like to a wife?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah, that's, that would be. You probably bruised. I was definitely bruised. I had welts and but it was hot. Yeah, there you go. For sure. Yeah. So what about so now are you always on Grindr?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Did you recently go on? I know that you have you have a lot of like hookups on Grindr too. Are you always just work in the Grindr app as well? I got on it probably a year ago and I just kind of flirted with it for a little bit and then I blew it off. But now the last three or four months I kind of, I'm on there quite a bit. Now I know you've had a bunch of hookups on there. You've had a hookups with couples. You had a hookup with a black guy who was really well hung.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You have some stories. So why don't you go into your grinder hookup stories? Yeah, that's the guy I was, actually, that's the guy I was telling you about the. The 22-year-olds? Yeah. Uh-huh. He's the one I was telling you about. that can go and he'll come and five minutes later he's he's going again so on your grinder let's just
Starting point is 00:32:36 start there like on your grinder a profile like what are you like labeled as a guy do you put in there that you like to cross just like a guy that's looking for guy and guy action and maybe if they're into that later you bring that up no actually yeah the cross dressing thing is pretty for you I think it's actually my profile picture is oh okay so you're like a guy who likes a cross just looking for guys to hook up with guys Correct. Okay. And do you get head up a lot?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Do you find that there's a lot of guys that are into that? Oh, yeah. Usually if I, if I open the app, it's probably within 10 minutes, I'm getting, I'm getting, hey, hi, hey. Oh, my God, hilarious. Yes. Is there like a dick pick with the, hey, hi. Like, how do guys hit on guys? They always send dick picks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you guys like that? Because girls are always getting dick picks and we're like, who cares? But do you like a dick pick? I'm assuming I do. I do. Yeah. I'm not going to go hook up with them. That's important information, I would assume. Well, I'm not, uh, they come in all, change in sizes. And you're open. Yeah. I like them all. So now, so how did the, hey, hi, come from the 22 year old guy? Because I know he must have sent a dick pick and you were like, whoa. Because he's well hot, right? He didn't, he didn't send the dick pick initially. He said, he just said hi or whatever, and I said hi. And he asked me for picks. So I sent him a few. And he just asked me what I was into when I told him.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And what did you say? I said, I basically told him like, I'm a bottom. I'm into being the bitch. I like to be, I like it rough. I like to get, I like to suck dick and I like to get banged out. Yeah. And he was like right on. He's only 22.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. And so he said, because my profile picture is, it's from the back and you can't have full nudity in your profile pick. So it's, it's, I think it's, I don't even remember, but I think it's panties and leggings or something. Yeah. And he just kept asking me about my ass or whatever. And so we ended up, he wanted, he wanted to know if I could host him at my house, which I never ever bring anybody to my house. Yeah. I don't want to get into it. He's 22. He probably has two roommates or lives at home with moms. He's 22. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, no, I can't. I don't bring anybody to my house.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And he said, oh, well, I can't have anybody at my house and blah, blah, blah. So what we ended up doing is I ended up getting a room at the bathhouse. Oh, okay. He came and met me there. And that's how that started out. So explain what went down. Had he ever been to the bathhouse? You probably turned him on to a whole new world.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I didn't ask him if he. had been before. I asked him if he knew where it was and he said he knew where it was. Okay. So maybe he had been. Yeah. But I told him I'd get a room then. He could meet me there. Uh-huh. And kind of, it just, it's, he's like right up my alley. No, you have to explain. I don't know you. So, well. I kind of do. I know a lot about your life. I've talked to you for three hours. Three, this is your third episode. Yeah, go on. Well, I told him I'd get a room and we could meet there. And so the plan was I, I, I, we do that.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And I told him when you get here, just let me know. I'll give you my room number and I'll leave the door unlocked. And he said, okay, whatever. So I was in my room and he said, I'm here. I gave him the number. And I don't know, five minutes later, I'm sitting on the bed. He came in the door and he just dropped his pants to suck my dick, which I did. And you loved probably because there's that bossiness you'd write.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's how you like to do. treated, yeah. And I'm assuming, you said he didn't send a dick pick right away, but I'm assuming before you met him at the bathhouse he had sent one and you had seen how big it was? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So I started blowing him and he was holding the top of my head by my hair. And he just kind of pushed me down on the bed. And the next thing you know, he's banging me out. Wow. Yeah. And like hard. It was great. It was good. Like he had my face stuck in the pillow and he was just pounding me out. You fucking whore. That's what you like. And that was one of the times where I didn't use a car on him.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And he came inside of me. Oh, my God. And he just, so he, he fucked me probably, I don't know, 20 minutes. Wow. And he came inside me and then he just laid there and stayed there. And his dick never got soft. Oh, so this is that guy. So five minutes later, what's going down?
Starting point is 00:37:28 He just stayed inside me for like, I don't know, five, ten minutes maybe and told me not to move. Okay. And so after five or ten minutes or whatever, he started in again. Wow. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And he came inside me again. Oh, my God. Now, why did you decide not to use a condom with him?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Was it like he didn't want to or you just didn't have them and you went with it? Why with this guy? We had him there, but it just was one of those things. It was in the heat of the moment. Yeah. And it just happened that way. Okay. So he fucked me twice and came and signed me twice.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And then so he's finished after the second time. And he just kind of rolled me over. And he comes up by my head and tells me to suck his dick again. And I did. And he ended up coming to my mouth after. So he came three times. Wow. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, that's what 22-year-olds can do. I don't think if you remember, maybe when you were 22. but that's like the 20-year-old guys could roll that way. Yeah, I think that's why I kind of like the younger guys better. Yeah, that's why everyone likes the younger guys better, even women, especially women in their 40s when they're the hot milfs that are horny because they're in pari menopause. That's why they fuck the 20-something-year-olds because they could go more than once. By the time a guy gets his late 40s, even my most player guy friends,
Starting point is 00:38:51 they're like one and done, two times max. It's not, and it's only like the real hyper-section. guys who don't roll that way. And those guys, you see them go down at about in their 50s to almost 60. Even those guys get down to one time a night. So your 22-year-olds, though, they could three times, four times, they could keep going. Stamina, a lot of stamina. Yes, that's the word.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah, that's the right word. Yeah. And I find, in my experience, they tend to be a lot more aggressive. Huh? Which I like. Yeah. They got all that testosterone in them. Yeah, I guess maybe so
Starting point is 00:39:29 But yeah I was like wow So I kind of see him I've seen him a few times Like we hung out a few times And now is it always Like what goes down when you see him Is it always the same thing
Starting point is 00:39:41 Do you see him at the bathhouse? That's where we've been Yeah That's what we've been meeting And the last time was last week And he He had messaged me And asked me
Starting point is 00:39:55 just out of the blue it was weird he just messaged me and the plan was to meet that night and he asked me how I felt about rape play and I was like I think I could get into that yeah and yeah and so that that night it was the same kind of the same way I had the room he showed up but but this time he was like like over aggressive grabbed me and threw me down and just pounding. Like it was like, and it was loud. Like, I'm not quiet. I can't be.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I try, but I can't. And that was, that session was like, even I knew it as it was happening. Like, it was so loud. And he was like covering my mouth with his hand. Well, he is raping you. Essentially, yeah, consensually. Yeah, exactly. But that's like a part of the, the, I would say, as the rapist,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I should really not say these words. But, you know, he's holding your mouth and not letting you scream as a part of the role play. Yeah, and somebody actually came and knocked on the door. They wanted to make sure you were okay. Yeah, in the middle of it. And I was like, oh, fuck. Was the door locked? You lock it when you were this guy?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah, the door was locked. Oh, yeah. You don't want to share him. No, I don't know. No, that's for me. Yeah, that's so funny. And he doesn't want to eat it because I told him I told him I would be open to that if he was into it. He's like, I don't care if anybody watches, but I don't want
Starting point is 00:41:29 anybody joining. Interesting. Okay, so he's into one-on-one. Yeah. Okay, cool. So that's the second time you met up with him, and that went well on the story. Third time. Yeah, third time. Do you want to finish that story? Because I kind of cut it off. Well, they were knocking on the door. Yeah. And he was just like, it's okay, it's okay. And he, so that night, he, he, it started it started getting a little he didn't want to use lube and I'm like I'm like I said listen I said maybe just a little I can't I can't do it without it yeah and so it was a little bit of loop so that made it a lot more intense obviously which is which is what I think why was so much louder than normal because there was a little pain involved a little bit but it was good pain if that makes sense Yeah, you like that. Just like you said, someone smacked your ass so bad, you were sore for three days. Some people, a person that's not into pain is not going to dig that.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You obviously are, you're into that. A lot of people are into that. That's called BDSM. There's all different variations of it, but that's kind of like you're into a little bit pain. Pain is pleasurable for you. It is. It definitely is. Like, I'm definitely into that scene.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. Probably going to expand on it in the future, but. with this guy or with anyone because you're like now you know that you're into that yeah i didn't realize how much until i started experiencing it huh so but yeah and now did you let me ask you this because we have talked about condoms so many times you didn't use it the first time with this guy or do you never use them now we haven't been using him no i haven't used them with him and is that because you just never did we didn't initially and yeah it's just the way it is with him And do you know the deal?
Starting point is 00:43:27 I know you met a couple too. We're going to talk about them next. But with this guy, this young 22-year-old, do you know anything about him like his deal? Is he in a relationship? Is he a gay man? Is he like dating a woman? Is he like on the DL?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Do you know anything about him? I know he does date women. Uh-huh. He had a roommate, a female roommate, who just moved out, I guess. And I know he goes to school. Okay. Right, so that female roommate is the reason why you could never go to his house.
Starting point is 00:44:00 That was one, yeah, he's asked me to now, but I kind of, I kind of don't want to. Yeah, I get it. I kind of like it the way it is. Yeah, I get it. I think keep the fantasy of it, and I think not seeing either one of your places is good. And I get why some people would want to keep it that way, because you go to his house, you might really see that he's like this young, 22-year-old, a room might be. dirty. Who knows what kind of information you get there? Like, I just think this is like sort of a side thing that you guys just do. It's just about sex. Like, we want to just keep it
Starting point is 00:44:34 there. Yeah, it just is more comfortable for me. And, and I, yeah, I didn't mention, when I, when I, when I hook up with him, I have to be dressed. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. You're dressed as a woman. Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to dress and drive to his house and I'm not going to go to his house and change so doing it the way that we do it I can already be all set because you're going to the bathhouse during that time where it's that it's that night where everyone's dressed yeah the ones that dress are dressed yeah right and the ones that like the people dressed are there exactly because that's the kind of night it is yeah I'm not going to drive down the street dressed dressed I'm not going to do that so but at the bathhouse when you go there
Starting point is 00:45:23 Do you dress when you get there? I do, yeah. Oh, okay, so that's how it is. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I have a bag, and I bring my stuff and change there. And so now... So that's why it works better for me. Yeah, so this guy you've seen him, how many times?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Four. And you never share him, you guys never... Have you had people watch you? Because he has been open to that. One time, yeah. But nobody's ever joined. Okay, cool. So you like him?
Starting point is 00:45:48 I like him. I like fucking him. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to date him. Of course. Are you into, have you ever like to figure that out about yourself? Or do you know what you want or looking for if you ever want another relationship? Would you date a guy?
Starting point is 00:46:03 Or is it only you're only interested in dating women? Or how do you feel about that? I think if we're talking about like a relationship, relationship, like cohabitation and stuff, like I definitely wouldn't do that with a guy. It would, I, I, if I was going to be in a serious, serious relationship, it would probably be with a woman. I can't picture myself doing it with a guy. I mean, like him, for instance, I like fucking him regularly, and it's great.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But at the end of when it's done, it's done. And we go out separate ways, and that's what I like. Right. But do you ever feel like you could be romantically involved with a man? Or do you feel like you don't have those feelings? I can't imagine that I do. Like, I could. I can't.
Starting point is 00:46:51 There's one other grinder hookup that I have. It's with a couple. They're both young too. Mm-hmm. A guy and a trans girl. Uh-huh. And typically, I am not into, like, I don't kiss guys usually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:12 It's not my thing. But like with them, I do. It's weird. And that's why I know I could never be in like a normal relationship. relationship with a guy. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Listen, if you were into guys that way, you'd know it by now. You've had enough experience with them. You've gotten to the place where you've accepted that part of yourself and everything, that if that was a part of who you are, you would have realized that. Right? Don't you think? Definitely. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:43 When everyone rolls different, and let me ask you this. So this, I know that you did say you had a couple that you meant on Grinders. Is this the couple that you're talking about? Or do you have many couples? So how did you meet them? It was the same. It was actually I saw her picture. I say her.
Starting point is 00:48:02 She's a trans woman. It's a trans woman. Is she fully transitioned or is it, is she not? No, she still has a cock. Okay, that's right. Okay. Well, I'm just thinking about, yeah, she has a cock. But is she possible?
Starting point is 00:48:19 Is she like super hot as a female? she's pretty cute and I'm like into that. That's like a thing for me. Like I like I like trans girls, especially trans girls with dicks. Yeah. Okay, cool. So you like that she wasn't fully transitioned.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So you see them on Grindr first or do they see you? How did it work? I saw her and I just sent like a tap because I like, I like the picture. And I probably, it started with her like this was probably over a year ago with her. She lives in my town. on the other side of my town.
Starting point is 00:48:54 So the first time I saw her picture, I sent a tap or whatever, and I talked a little bit. And I ended up going and hooking up. She was alone. Yeah. Which I probably saw her that way, probably a half a dozen times. Oh, interesting. Yeah, she's all top.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Okay. And so I saw her probably half a dozen times and I didn't hear from her for a while. And she actually hit me on. up on Grindr a while back. I got a message and said, hey, bitch. And I said, hi, what's up? And she said to me, I need some pussy.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And I'm like, okay. And she goes, my boyfriend is with me. Wow. Okay. So she had mentioned that she had a boyfriend or maybe this was the new guy she was dating. Like all the other times she was up. I think it was a new guy because I had never heard anything about him before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Okay. Cool. So I said, so what's the deal? Are you talking about double teaming me? And she said, yeah. And I said, well, I could probably get into that. So she just said, make it happen. And I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Okay. And that's kind of how that started. So where did you meet them? And then went down during that first threesome. I went to her place again. And they were both there. And she's, she's, she's 20
Starting point is 00:50:21 the trans woman yeah and the boyfriend is 19 oh my god is that legal I think so yeah for sure I think over 18 I know but so I went there
Starting point is 00:50:35 and we just talked for a little bit and he's all top but she's all top she bottoms with him though it's weird wait where did you meet them this is at their place at her place yeah okay cool so why would you go
Starting point is 00:50:49 Why do you go to her place, but you wouldn't go to the 22-year-old's place? The honest truth is I had seen the pitches, and I was just, I was really attracted to her, and I wanted to, I wanted to hug up with her as well. And that was on the table. Because with the other guy, maybe if the first time you wanted that big cock, like, he said, come over to my place, you would have gone. But it was like not on the table because he, whatever. So, yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Okay, so this girl puts it on the table, like, come over. That's where you'd always been banging her, is at that, or been with her. at her house. That's how it started. Yeah, the last few times have been in a room. Okay, so go again, start again. You so you go over and it's, I mean, do you? I go over the two of them and there.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. He's 19 and he's, he's like the kind of guy that I'm attracted to, like, smooth. I don't like burly, hairy guys, you know what I mean? Yeah. Not my thing. Like, some guys love that. I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And he's not hairy and clean. That's my kind of guy. Yeah. And I was obviously already attracted to her. So I got over there and we just chatted for a little bit. And next thing, we're going to the room. And he's got an enormous dick. And it's funny because he's a small, framed, thin guy.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Those are the guys, I'm telling you. I've seen a lot of dicks in my life, the big, huge ones, little tiny, skinny guys. he's a yeah i i didn't see that coming yeah i i pulled his pants down and it was like wham i was like holy shit yeah totally and uh huge dick and she's she's probably average i would say maybe six inches he's got to be pushing nine inches wow and sick yeah it's massive and uh i started blowing them both and uh it's funny because i usually don't kiss people but them i'm did both and how come do you think it just because like in the heat of the moment it just kind of came up and you went with it because you're into it it was the heat of the moment and I just
Starting point is 00:52:59 went with it and I enjoyed it I definitely enjoyed it yeah and yeah they both they both rails me yeah it was a good time now do they would do they hook up with each other too and you watch them as well they're a couple yeah they I would yeah So it went back and forth with me blowing both of them, and then one of them was fucking me. I'm blowing the other one, and then they switched. And then at the end, usually at the end, they'll both lay back on the bed,
Starting point is 00:53:34 and I'll blow both of them until they come. And they just lay back with each other, and they're making out while I'm blowing them. Right. So, yeah. And how many times have you seen them as a couple? three three times
Starting point is 00:53:53 and it's always like a fun time you're totally dig it I mean it sounds like it could be top of the mountain for you because you got everything you kind of like in one place yeah it's definitely good time I enjoy it a lot
Starting point is 00:54:08 and she gets off on watching him you know having his way with me so no but you have to use the trans girl you have to say she he gets off on watching her with you no she I said she gets off on watching him with me.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Oh, okay, cool. So she really likes to watch her guy with you. Yeah, like I'll be blowing him and she'll be pushing my head down on his cock and and telling me suck it, bitch. Oh, my God, you are her bitch. Yeah, oh, she'll tell me to suck his balls. She's a little dumb and you're the bitch. Oh, she definitely is.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, she has dominant tendencies to say the least. Wow, crazy. Mike, you're always full of. amazing stories. I feel like we're in an hour already and we could probably go on. We've just touched the surface. Not even, right? Oh my God. I do have a book deal for my show and I'm including different chapters in it and I'm like, which one of Mike's stories do I at least? Which one? You're definitely going to make it in. Which one do I include? They're all so good. Oh my God. It's an interest in life to say the least. Yeah. And I have to say I love the way you pitch it. I love
Starting point is 00:55:18 all your laughs after everything. I don't know. So what I remembered about you in the past and you did the same shit here, you're just always laughing after everything that you say. No, it's because it's, I sit back sometimes and I reflect on the things that I do and I'm just like, wow, I did that. That's what I mean. It is funny. Like even like I feel like you could, you have that perspective of your own self, which I think is great. When I think that's kind of cool, you could see yourself and you know what you're doing is like kind of out of control, crazy. I mean, it's, and you laugh, but like, you're still, you do it. And it's great that, you know, also at the same time that you have come in the past year to accept this part of yourself and you don't have any shame around it and you've embraced it.
Starting point is 00:56:01 You know, that's really great. That's like a great place for you to be in. Yeah. It's, it's, you know, I've come a long way. Yeah. I feel like people should go back and read your first story, that origin story with your wife, being in the lifestyle and then her having bulls and then her leaving you for once. And that's where, you know, your journey with me started. That's where you were, you know, when we first talked.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I don't know that you were in that place at first. But, I mean, there was a time where that was where you were at. And I just feel like you've come a very long way. I definitely have because I've had, I definitely had issues with all of it in the one from way back. Yeah, of course. And I think I just look at myself now and I can, I don't know if you remember, but I have a small dig.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, I remember that. That was the, that was the second. episode you gave me. Yeah. So that was like I can I can tell how far I've come I can now go like when I go to the dress up nights at the bathhouse. I'll wear crotchless thigh high like nylon type of things and I won't put a towel on. I'll just I'll stay like that and I'll walk I'll walk around in the open areas like that and I would never ever do that before because you were self-conscious about my size absolutely yeah i still do i've come to terms of it for the most part but i wouldn't that's something i would never ever do in life yeah that's great but now i do it and i'm just it's just out there and
Starting point is 00:57:30 yeah you don't give a shit that is very freeing too i feel like yeah it definitely is i yeah how old are you my last question 54 right so here you are come you have to come full circle come into your own uh i think that's amazing you need to go on to um i'm going to You have you, are you on my Discord at all? I just added a buy, by, I'm not on Discord period, I don't think. Okay, well, I'll give you free access to my Discord when your episode airs.
Starting point is 00:57:58 You need to say, I'm fucking Mike and here I am because they're going to love you. There's a lot of channels in my Discord and you're going to like. There's cross-dresser channels. There's buy channels. There's also a channel called guest picks. And what's great about my Discord and why I started it is because it never fails, no matter what I say to my callers. Hey, send me and some
Starting point is 00:58:14 R-rated picks from my Discord. I get X-rated picks. I get them blowing people. get them tied up on a cross, like all this. I'm like, where are we going to put this stuff? So I created this Discord. It's like an NFSW place where people could post whatever they want. And you could do it yourself. When people do, people want to show off that kind of stuff. And that's where that stuff goes down on my Discord. So when your episode airs, I'm going to send you the link. You'll get in for free. Everyone else pays. I have over 2,200 people signed up for my Patreon. So there's a lot of people. Wow. And you go in there and you can say, hey, I'm Mike.
Starting point is 00:58:48 This is my episode and talk to people. And then there's, like I said, a bye channel in there, a cross-dusting channel. I think you'll love, you'll make some interesting connections in there yourself. And like I said, what's great about Discord is because on Patreon, people can't upload pictures and stuff themselves. Only I can. On Discord, you can do whatever you want. You could upload pictures. You could upload videos.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And you could talk to people. So that's what's going on in that community. So you could go have fun there. That's intriguing. Yeah. Awesome. I'll send you that. And you'll go up when it airs.
Starting point is 00:59:18 and thanks so much for calling in again and then look forward to, you know, I'll keep you posted about my book, but you're definitely going to be in there. Like I can only choose 20 to 25, but one of your stories, one of your episodes are definitely going in there, so I will definitely send you a copy when that's done. I would appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Of course, and I appreciate you letting me sharing your stories with me and letting me share it also in the book that's coming up. So thanks so much again for calling in and giving me another great episode. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. Thanks, Mike. Bye.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Okay, I just wanted to do. tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck-wif story. There's a cuck-cour. Queen's story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third
Starting point is 01:00:33 person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over-the-top like erotica. I don't really like that kind vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short. chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link.
Starting point is 01:01:18 from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:01:56 That's Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks for tuning into this week's episode. If you want to be on the Strictly Anonymous podcast because you have an interesting, naughty story to tell while we're meeting Anonymous, you could be on the show. Send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast.com.
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Starting point is 01:03:19 Discord where people are getting super naughty. If you sign up for my Discord, you could post whatever you want and talk to my other listeners. To sign up for my Patreon, just go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. That's Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The links and everything else I spoke about are all in the description. Thanks so much for listening.

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