Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 845 - Rob is a Sub in a Female Led Relationship

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

FETISH FRIDAY! Rob is a sub in a female led relationship and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when he first realized he was a submissive, when and why he started subbing for dominatrix, the kind of humiliation he digs, how and when he decided to tell his wife about what he was into and how she felt about it, how they went to dungeons together and exactly what went down, the threesomes they had with women, exactly how he likes his wife to humiliate him and what she gets out of it, how and why they both enjoy it when she spends his money, how they’re both getting something out of their female led play, how and why his wife once used pics of him as blackmail and how he felt about it, the chastity belt he loves and why, who knows about their kink and who doesn’t plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So it's even cheaper. It's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. That's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcasts. Now, listen, today I have on Rob. I love this episode. He's an alpha guy that loves being. He's definitely in a female-led relationship. Any guy out there that's looking for a bossy bitch because he's into being humiliated, you're going to be jealous of Rob because he really found the perfect girl. She's an alpha in regular life and she's an alpha in the bedroom. He's been married to her for 20 years. They were, they started this kind of dynamic, living out this kind of dynamic between with themselves in their marriage right from the get-go. She was super open. to what he was into. She went to dungeons with him. They've had threesomes with women. She loves

nothing more than humiliating him. We talk about all of that stuff, like what they like to do when they're together. He did have some experiences in dungeons before, as well as experiences and dungeons with her. Like I said, they started to go when they were together. Talks about those experiences. Talks about how he likes to be humiliated, how far they've taken it, and all that kind of good stuff. I like I said I love this episode because it's a definite I because I've had other female led relationship couples on my show this is just like a different view of one I think and I know you're going to find it just as interesting as I did

does that make sense anyway anyway I'm going to be right back on with Rob hi Rob welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast how are you doing today Rob I'm doing great thank you Rob you're like that guy that I talk about a lot that you're a submissive in the bedroom, but you're a fucking alpha in your regular life. And I always say it's not a mystery why that big CEO is who's down in the dungeon getting whipped because that guy has 500 people or 1,000 people working for him, tons of responsibility. That's how that guy relaxes or gets away from his life. A lot of times that's the stereotype of the submissive man. They're not submissive at all.

They're alpha guys. And you are an alpha man who submits to his wife at home. And you do have a high power position. You're that guy, right, that I always talk about? So that is, that's correct. But the interesting thing, because I've heard that theory a lot and I've heard you say it and I'm not saying that it's not accurate, but the interesting thing is like the earliest fantasies that I have sexually, even during teenage years, way before I was a CEO and would fit that level of description, were always submissive fantasies. So the first time they ever, master's, debated, the first sexual thoughts they ever had were all submissive. So the question is, is that the way you're born? And that's just what your genetics is. And you are what you are. And it's a, you know,

coincidence that you then CEO Alpha Man as well. But I've heard that so many times that, of course, CEO Alpha Man want to be submissive. But my, my submissive thoughts about sexuality came born before I was ever CEO. I love that. I could talk about that for the fucking hour and analyze it. You know what I mean? that's so interesting, right? And probably no one else put that together, but maybe that's true for other people too. But maybe it's that, listen, when Alpha Man, I don't think Alpha's embedded. I don't think that that's like a role you choose at a certain point. I personally think you're born one or the other kind of thing. And so I just think you were a little Alpha CEO from the get-go. Now, I don't know, because I see things in my eight-year-old son that I'm like, I know a lot about

him that he has no clue about yet, like little whispers of things. I don't know. I believe you were probably always alpha and maybe that's why you jerked off to submissive stuff. I don't know, but like you were very submissive. Let's start there though. Let's start when you were younger and you were having like very submissive thoughts. Do you remember what those were? Like how submissive are you? Yep. I could give you the exact sexual fantasy that was the first momentous jerk off occasion. That you remember, right? Yeah, no, I actually do. So. So, So it's out and about and you're confronted by those pretty mean girls that you see movies about and TV shows about and then teasing you in a verbally humiliating way. But then ultimately, as part of the teasing, it's kind of like, you're so whatever, I can even beat you up or whatever.

And then there's kind of like a fight and you get stripped naked in front of everybody and they all make fun of you. And that's probably the moment that it ended. The fantasy ended up for obvious. So that's what you concocted in your head, though, like hot chicks making fun of you. Hot chicks making fun of you. Interesting. Now, were you like a nerdy guy in school that felt like you didn't get any attention from women?

Did you hate your mother? No, no, no, no, not at all, you know. Always alpha. So you were a little alpha. Sports team or whatever captain of the sports team and so forth. That was just what was, that was just what was in my head. And then as life goes on, back then they had the penthouse stories. And I always just found that I was drawn to the ones that were

humiliation oriented, power exchange oriented, and so forth. And so I would seek out those sexual stories, and that would be what kind of interested me. And then ultimately, I heard and found out about magazines that were beyond, like your basic penthouse stories and that were like dominatrix-oriented. did magazines or whatever. And so, so, so that's, that's always been my path from the sexual perspective. But I do have to point out that you did cop to being an alpha when you were very young, too. So I feel like the alpha came first and the submissive comes through that just like anyone else. Do you know what I mean? Like you were a little alpha when you were younger too. And then, and not being made fun of a woman,

but you had that was like you were doing the opposite even back then. It wasn't like, because at first I was thinking, oh, well, maybe he was made fun of so much. And that's why he became an alpha because, he was like a sub when he was little. But no, you were always alpha. So I think my analysis before was right. But so, all right, so you're starting to have these fantasies. But like when you start to play with women and start hooking up with chicks and stuff, do you get your girls to engage with you that way?

Not, no, not early on because that's not something. Yeah. That's not something I think you fully figured out. And I don't think that's something that you would express, you know, at that time. Yeah, no, I know. So how did you feel about it? Like, did it create conflict within yourself? Oh, my God.

What the fuck am I into? Or did you feel weird about it? Or you just were smart enough to know that this, I shouldn't put this on the table with a girlfriend because she might dump me. I think possibly a little above. Right. Okay. So you kept that under wraps. But so were you able to perform and get, because listen, I think the difference between a fetish and just a kink is like a fetish, whatever you're into has to be present for you to be sexually aroused.

So did you find? mind that when you were with women who were laughing at you and making fun of you and were like just fucking into you were you able to get off on that or was something missing for you no look i think the early relationships were just normal vanilla relationships and no problems no issues at all because because a you're having your first sexual experiences which is in love themselves going to going to be something that you're you're enjoying and stuff like that and then yeah i know it was that it's never an issue. It's just what you find, what you're drawn to, and then down the road, if you, it's interesting, because you can dig people who you like and they like you and this and that or whatever,

but you're not, like, really sexually open with each other and you're communicating about it. And then you have people where, like, organically, it just flows very easily. And you feel like you could be open with them. Yeah, and vice versa. They're open with you. And so when you're ultimately getting those relationships, then you can begin to explore things. That's like, maybe. people do as they, because they're a little older and stuff like that. But I always feel like that's like a thing that we smell from somebody else.

I think on some level it's like an unspoken thing. Like sometimes you just know that you just can't put something on the table with this person and then another person you smell that you can. Oh, you know right away. That's an unsmoken thing that's there. So I think that when you don't, you're right not to because you're picking up on something, them being closed off or whatever it is. So do you remember the first time that you did get to engage?

I mean, did you start going and seeing dominatrix or anything like that? Or did you start playing with women, your own girlfriends? Like, what did you do to start becoming a real sub? So, so I think it was a little both. I think it was the first relationship where I was able to communicate it. But I don't know that the person really shared the same interest from the perspective of being. I think they would play alone because. people who are going with each other and exploring things sexually, do that with each other and so forth.

So in that situation, I did go to some dominatrixes and had actually a lot of great experiences and so forth. But those were all prior to my current marriage and relationship and so forth. This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. Listen, guys, you want to know what girls dig. They dig guys with confidence. and that's especially true in the bedroom. Remember back in the day when you were like always super hard and ready to go? You want to get that confidence back in bad?

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Let's just hear some of those stories real quick before we get to your relationship. Do you remember your first visit to a dungeon? And, like, what was on the menu for you? Yeah. So, I mean, it was basically a dungeon where it was shockingly really, really well-run business, which surprised me. Very professional. Very professional.

Like, really, really treated you well. The women there were beautiful. They were diverse and different. It's all blonde and this and whatever. But it was really back then it was a very kind of well-run thing. So it was really like everything you could fantasize and want and so forth. And back then, which was a little pre-computer age and so forth, you would go in and they would show you pictures and this and that or whatever. And then you would have a consultation with the specific dominatrix and so forth to make sure you're on the same page and so forth.

So that's how it went. And so for me, the driving forces you might, it wasn't like the whipping that you originally describing when you introed me. It's never been that. It's never been pain. It's never been bondage. It's never been any of those things. It's more humiliation and so forth. So it was sort of included verbal humiliation,

and included force-cross dress. They leash and collar you and they walk you around and they show you off to the other mistresses who laugh at you and make comments about you. And it was all kind of humiliation-oriented stuff because that's what I was seeking. It's also it's funny because somebody on your show a few weeks back said something to a point that you were making, which was fully accurate from my perspective.

Yeah. You said something like, well, did you dress in your mother's clothes and this and that or whatever? And he said, no, it's not that that never gets, would get me excited. And that's the same thing. That would never get me excited. That's never something that I would ever seek to do or want to do on my own. Just like you could be forced in my current marriage, which we'll get into. Yeah.

I'm forced to do domestic chores for, I hate doing domestic chores. but it's the verbal humiliation when they make you do it and it's being forced to do and it so forth. So it's not, so that's a whole other, it's not being a cross-dresser. Like you don't want to be dressed like that. You're being forced to be dressed like that. And then you're being paraded out in front of one of the benefits of a place like that because I've had situations where I've met with dominators at a hotel and it was a private situation and originally at the dungeons and so forth.

one of the benefits of the dungeons is that they would have several girls there. So they would dress you up and they'd leash and collar you and they'd walk you like a dog and tell you to bark and bring you to all these other really pretty mistresses who would then join in and make fun of you and things of that nature. So that is, so that's all creation oriented. It's not because you dressing up that way or anything of that nature. Yeah, of course. If you did dressing up, then it wouldn't be humiliating. That would be defeating the whole purpose. Yeah. Yeah, you're not a cross-dresser. You're into anything that would be humiliating you.

That happens to be humiliating for you because you're not into wearing your mommy's clothes. So it just makes sense. Exactly. Yeah, but I do think it's a very important distinction to make, right? Because a lot of people would just maybe lazy thinking on the surface, oh, he likes to dress up as a woman. Is he have a cross-dresser in him? Like, no.

And the way you explained, it makes sense. Like, it's anything that just makes you feel like you're doing something that you don't want to do. That's the whole point. Did you ever get into like hardcore humiliation? like being peed on, that kind of stuff? Because, like, a lot of times that's a part of the humiliation fantasy. Yeah, it's, yeah, I've been, I've been peed on.

No one knows who you are. Even me. You call me from a block number. Don't worry about it. Just let your freak fly fly. You know, you know, it's really funny about that. In all those situations, it's not something that I asked for. It's just kind of something that some kind of women to do

and decided to do as kind of part of it or whatever. So that wasn't like on my list that I asked for, but that is something that happened. And when you get in that state where you're like totally under someone's control, like psychologically and emotionally or whatever, it's something that you welcome and so forth. So yes, that has happened. And that's even something that my wife has done from time to time. Yeah, listen, if you're getting turned on by being submissive and somebody's forcing themselves to pee on, Like it's going to turn you on in that moment, like you said, because you're in that head space. You're, you know, and that's just a part of what it is.

And it's, I think it's the same thing like the cross-dressing. It means you're not into water sports. You're just into being humiliated. It's just like it's really not about the actual act. It's about it's something that you actually don't like. I mean, you're even having a hard time saying it, right? But in the moment, that submissive liked it because it was doing something that you don't want to really talk about. Exactly.

Yeah, it makes sense. So, okay, so let's get, so you go to a bunch of like dominatrix and stuff. Now, when do you eventually meet your wife and when do you wind up letting her in on the fact that you're into this? Right away, I guess we're together about 20 years now. And it was just one of those things where you meet and it was just very easy on both ends. She told me all of her sexual fantasies very early on and I told her mine and we as, as Matt, married couples do who sexually communicate with each other. We did a lot of those things together.

And then I think it just organically fell in this place where sexually anyway, it's pretty much what we do 90% of the time. But we started off doing other things. It was one of the things we did, but it wasn't the only thing we did. So early on, she loved the idea of going to see a dominatrix. And she went with me. Oh, really? That's interesting. Yeah, she went with me. She initiated it.

She got along incredibly well because she has that personality with the dominatrix. So I have to tell you, are all really nice people, easy to get along with in my experience. I mean, you have different experiences, but 90% of my experiences were good. And so for a while early on, we did that. And sometimes for her, because she identified herself as being voyeuristic, she would more watch. and enjoy watching and other times she would participate with them. So that's something we did early on and so forth. And we did some threesomes just with women and things of that nature.

But we ultimately fell into this place because she's bitchy and bossy and she likes it. And she likes the benefits of the control and the dominance in that aspect of our life. So because that's primarily my guess what I like the best and being bitchy and bossy herself, which might have attracted me to her. Yeah. That's what she loves. And I think she finds it very advantageous. She has a lot of help.

It's not like she's sitting around doing dishes anyway. But there's a couple in the sink after the cleaning people who literally come every day. If there happens to be after dinner, things lying around. And she loves to tell me to, and she's got to bought me made outfits. Go put on your maid outfit and come down and clean the dishes. And then I'd be there. And then I'd be there cleaning the dishes in my maid outfits. And she's relaxing away, talking to her friends on the phone, playing online,

making occasional verbal comment or two, always taking a picture or so for potential blackmail, which she has used at times. She could get at another point. Yes. Yeah, so I mean, it's just, I think, as I said, we fell into it because she, I think, and she's the type of person, like, if we're sitting in a room together and let's say the TV controls five feet from her and all the way across the room from me, she'll be, Rob, go get me the TV control. Like, just naturally, not even, you know, as part of some Fem Donald's sexual. She's bossy. She's bossy. She's bitchy. She likes to spend money and she likes to have a guy.

And she found somebody who loves when she treats me. Are you into that too? That's that financial domination kind of thing. So here's the thing. So here's the thing on that. So I've never understood that. But there's a big button there. I just never understood.

And it's a recent thing, right? I didn't even know what that was. I don't forget it. Five years ago, seven years ago. You know, whatever the case was in it, like literally made no sense to me. But as my relationship with my wife evolved, she was very clear. And this wasn't like an anonymous vendon where you just send money to somebody you don't know or you see online or something like that.

But, you know, she was kind of, you know, very clear it would either be, you know, we haven't really spoken about it yet, but, you know, come here and going to put this chastity cage on you and these whatever and these panties on you and we're going, whatever, we're going shopping and we're going to fendie and we're going to prodig. We're going to Gucci and you're buying me, you're buying me, whatever I want. And then we'd go on these shopping sprees. And she would, like, it wasn't just shopping and buying things. She'd, you know, put a meaning.

She's trying on expensive things. And the way she would talk to the shopkeeper is, just give my husband the bill, this or that or whatever. And then when it came time for the bags, it's Rob, go grab those bags. This or that or whatever. And by the time, the shopping sprees over and thousands of dollars have been spent, I'm there carrying a fendi bag, a prodig bag, a Gucci bag, all these bags or whatever. She's like, oh, let me take a picture.

Then she takes a picture, and she posts it online, so all her friends kind of comment and laugh and giggle. And so the whole experience is just sending money to a stranger. It's a whole kind of humiliating, submissive experience and so forth, the way she does it when it's done and so forth. And so I'm literally there getting sexually aroused as like I'm paying for some really expensive item from Prado, the latest pocketbook or whatever it is. But I love that. That's super interesting too because you never really did understand that financial, the Fendom thing, right?

But you do in your context and it makes sense. Like you have, that is a version of it for sure because you are getting off on her taking money from you and that's what it's about. I think a lot of guys that are doing it in the other way, they're like single and they're sending women or it's someone outside. You do it within your relationship, which is super. interesting, but I think it's like an aspect of it, a form of it, for sure. It's a little thin dom, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. And so, so, so, so, so, so it's just another

form of humiliation, but then you feel a humiliation again when you pay the bill at the end of the month, you get the mediation when she has the pocketbook. And you get hard again? And she wears the shoes. Well, she's very verbal and she always points it out. Yeah. I hate her to get the bill for the last week and this and that or whatever. And she goes, oh, I think I'll carry that crowd a bag. You bought me last week. What do you think? This of that or whatever.

So that's, so that's, so, so, so, A, it's the experience itself. But then it's a continued experience because she remains verbal about it. And she's wearing the items, carrying the items, and always pointing it out. Listen, you married the right girl. Could you take me back to the beginning? Because she was so super cool and open with you and went to dungeons with you. I've never heard of like a dungeon experience with a. experience with a couple. Walk me through one of your experiences. So that's funny that you say that

because a lot of mistresses say it's really, really common. And when you know, you really get, yes, and when you really get to know them and, and by the way, I had one or two in particular who actually became my friends outside of even sexual stuff, just like people who we became, we became friendly with and so forth. And they were like, we see couples all the time. And so it's really not, it's really not as unusual or rare as you would think it would be. And they would tell me about not in a sexual way, but they would, some of the other couples. Yeah, he's into this. She's into that.

Yeah. I've seen him for an X number of years. Yeah. It's actually not that. It's actually not that unusual. No, listen, my last dominatrix I had a dominatrix I had on Raven. She said that she sees couples sometimes. I just have never heard from that couple that I went.

So I've never heard of like a hot scenario. What does a couple do? I've never gone there because I'm typically talking to the guy who's going behind his waist back or the dominatrix who's just talking in. general. So give me like a scenario that played out when your wife, because I know sometimes she watches, but like when your wife would join in, what would go down? Yeah. So yeah, so it'd be very similar to when she hadn't been there years before. So she would in essence be the second mistress in the room and so forth. And the verbal back, you know, the verbal back and forth with

each of them is humiliating in its own, in its own way or whatever. But the mistress would say, So whatever. So the dominatrix would say to her, so tell me about your bitch boy, whatever. And she, oh, he's a total bitch. I dress him in panties and I make him serve me and when I, all that sort of stuff. And then they would just go, they would just go and do it. And it would be the same forced cross dress. And they would be leash and collar again and walking around to the other mistresses who were there. And my wife was just training, one of the girls and the whole thing. Yeah. And there was even the pegging involved, which I didn't know the word at the time. But there was even pegging involved and so forth, which my wife does to me at this time as well on occasion.

None of this, by the way, it's also, none of this is 24-7. Yeah, of course. Well, that's about the whole point of my show. Everyone thinks, like, these people that do these things are like these weird people that if they're walking down the street, you know that they're doing. You know, I mean? Like, these are just regular people. This is what they do behind closed doors every now and then when they want to have fun. You know what I mean?

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I mean, it's just, it's really just the predominant part of our sexual life, but, you know, but there's a whole other kind of life there. Of course. But yeah. But yeah. You did say something before you're like, oh, there was a time where she did pee on me once and you've gotten into all these different things. What kind of stuff when you guys are alone does she like do to you?

So, okay. So, so, so, so, so A, I mean, she's definitely the, the queen of. of verbal abuse, which I'll get more to a second. I'll get more to a second. But essentially, it's everything from different stages of, it's not always a maid outfit. Sometimes it's chastity. And then the humiliated acts would follow. The first humiliation is forcing you to dress a certain way, whether it's in chastity, whether it's in panties, whether it's a maid outfit, whatever, whatever it is, because that's the first humiliating thing. Yeah. Then the second humiliating thing would be like the act that she would force you to do.

So it could be clean the dishes, mop the floor, make the bed, put my clothes away. Any domestic chores, domestic servitude while dressed that way while she's relaxing, reclining like her queen, talking to her friends. And they're just verbally abusing me while I'm doing it and so forth. And then, I mean, sexually, it could be, it could be starting with, it could be. starting, and it's, I don't have a foot fetish, but when you're forced to, like, kiss or like someone's feet, then, then it's a humiliating. Yeah. Like her feet are dirty.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to look at that whole type of thing. Yeah. And then always orally servicing her, which over and over again and so forth. And then, and then often after she's been satisfied, she, I also hear about people like the show who's been denied and they've never been allowed to come from. month or two months or three months or like that. No, and that I don't. And also when people say, it's about me, it's all about me. That's not a relationship. Like this is, this is, you know, once again, you teach his own or something, but for me, a relationship is mutuality. So she's,

so she's enjoying the big bossy experience and what she's getting from it. And obviously, I'm enjoying the humiliation of the submissive part. But, you know, none of those things like chastity might be a day at work. And then call me on the outside. and tell me what a bitch you are wearing chastis or something it's it's a day at work or it's we're going out with friends oh you're going to be a chastity i'm going to text you messages what a bitch you are and threatened to tell everybody that you're locked up or whatever the case might be and it's amazing how many people don't recognize or don't think about the fact that she's wearing a key around her neck or whatever which she wears frequently but but in any event so i mean so so so in a sexual

situation. Like one of the things which is very submissive and humiliating is so after she comes, she loves to just basically, if you're going to come, you're going to jerk off all over yourself, basically. And she loves to stick her ass in my face or to me to lick it. And then as she's jerking me off, she's like, how did I marry such a pathetic husband?

It's like, how do I marry a pathetic husband who likes to lick my ass and be a total bitch? Yeah. And then she'll go on. So how do I marry a guy with such a small cock? I need, like, how do I marry a all cock. I need like a young guy with a really hard cock who I want to fuck and this is whatever. So she's I mean verbally whatever and obviously

it doesn't take too long and then you come all over yourself which is humiliating and it's so clean up for that type of thing. But you know it's also I've never it's also the it's never mean even though those words seem to me they're always said in a sexual humiliating way and it's also

that's not something that I ever understood when somebody thought being a dominant person means being mean. No, it's just not, it's just not what I've ever been attracted to in a, either in a professional mistress or in the situation. And that's not how my, how my wife is. Let me ask you a very controversial, if you asked me, episode that I aired recently. It was the female-led relationship, and I talked to both the man and the woman. Did you hear that episode? Yeah, I did hear that. Okay, because to me, she sounded mean, like mean. It was just, didn't seem nice, you know? And I wondered what you thought of that.

Is that how your wife is or were you put off by that as a guy who digs that? Yeah. So once again, you know, I wouldn't say it was put off by you, but it's just one of those interesting things like having been part of this like lifestyle, for lack of a better word, for so many years or whatever. It's something that I see a lot, which is, and it's always something that I was very careful about if I ever saw like a pro dom or whatever the case might be, which is you want someone who's friendly.

You want somebody. You want somebody. And I want someone who's pretty. And I had mischicists. I've had people say, you're not a submissive. No, that's not true. You just have whatever you like. So I literally wanted you.

You're submitting to somebody because of their, because they're beautiful. You're submitting to somebody because they're sensual. or you're supportive to somebody because they have this power over you. But, you know, so, I mean, I once again teach their own or whatever. But, you know, it's not my thing for someone to be, you know, I don't care about him and I don't care what he thinks and this and that or whatever. Because it's a mutual relationship. If both parties aren't getting something out of the relationship, then I don't, I don't think that, at least for me, I don't think that's going to last too longer. Yeah, unfortunately, I don't know how as a woman, if you're so sort of disqualification.

connected and it's just about you and you just love to be mean like how you could then be into that guy. It's a very hard line to ride, right? It sounds like you do it in a way I could understand more. I think it has to be about the couple together. It has to be about that connection. It has to be something that, yeah, it's humiliating like you said and she's being mean, but it's not coming from a mean place. She loves you and she's she could she rolls with it. She's into it. You guys are perfectly matched. It's not like she like the other woman. It was kind of like she's so happy. she could just like not do anything anymore and keep this guy fucking happy. I don't know.

It's like really weird. Yeah, yeah. And I've heard that too in kind of cuckold podcasts or whatever too where it's it's all about me. It's all about me. It's all about me. It's all about me. It really, it really isn't. It needs to be about the couple or then that window of opportunity for somebody to find

somebody else, I think is just left open. And then it's just a matter of time because that connection has to be there. The denying for so long. They're not banging somebody for so long. That was one of my questions because a lot of times. because a lot of times I have heard people go to domination because they want to be denied. They never come from that experience, whatever.

I was wondering, like, do you get to release? And it sounds like you allow yourself to, and that is a part of it, right? You're never denying yourself a lot. No, it might be, no, it might be like a little game for whatever. It's on a Thursday. No, no, no. You're not coming till Sunday.

It might be a little game like that, but it's not like you're never coming or anything like that. But I've heard stories like that. I'm sure. I don't know if you've got on my show. I have to. No, I have to. I look at once again, different people are two different things.

Exactly. I just don't understand that. If you're being forced to wait for a couple of days and you're being teased and tormented over those days and you're forcing to serve and make Karkum over and over again, it's just kind of part of the game. It's just kind of builds and builds and builds. It's more play. I've never had that happen for any long period of time. It kind of defeats the purpose.

Yeah. And listen, this is why I love to do my show, because I could talk to 10 guys in a female-led relationship type of scenario, right? they're all going to be very different. Yeah. I don't want to be mean about that poor guy. That other guy. It was just so extreme to me. But I love that you're calling in and sort of talking about the same exact thing.

But to me, the dynamic seems different. And I think that that's interesting. But that's why I'll have 50 hot wives on it, 100 cucks. And I'll always talk to somebody again because each specific story is going to be totally unique and different. And I think you learn and you take different things from different stories. And so I like that you give a different angle to it than that last one. because I think some people might listen to that episode, and if they're not in that world, they're just going to think that this is what that world is about.

I think you're giving like a little different take on what that world could be about. And the hardest part is that it's considered taboo and unacceptable, right? So you can't really talk to other people about it and kind of exchange points of views. Obviously, it's one of the big things about your show that you get to hear different people talk about and you get to hear different kind of people on the show exchanging different ideas and stuff like that. But it's just not, it's something that without maybe there's a best friend who knows or this or that or whatever. But for the most part, it's not something that people are out there talking about. So it's hard to compare.

But you did say that your wife has taken picks and bribe you with them and stuff. And you said, and she has used them, blackmailed you with them. So what is that all about? Yeah, so 90% of it is all good fun and it's part of the game. So 90% of it is you pull up the picture and when you're having, when you're going through the situation, it's basically look at the pictures I have. I'm going to show them to all my friends. What do you think they're going to think of the big CEO just being my little bitch boy?

So they're utilized this way. But you know, that way. And 90% of the time it's great. but I will tell you that we got into, we had a rare argument recently. And she, as you might be able to tell, has a great kind of, a great kind of emotion. She's an emotional person so open sexually and be so happy to do it and enjoy it and this and that or whatever. But when personal like that gets mad. This is intense.

They can get mad. And so it doesn't happen often. So we were going through like one of these rare disagreements, which when I'm then I left the house and then it continues by text and this and that or whatever and we're going back and forth and then all of a sudden she sends and it's getting a little past just the normal little tip or whatever yeah and then she sends one of these pictures of me and then one of the things she had one of the dildos and she had me suck it and and she's like rob say i love to suck cock for you or whatever and i knew she was using it for ultimate use when she was filming it and she made me say it so i said it

And so this and that. And so she sends this picture to me when she's finally fed up and when we're really agitated with each other. And she was basically, I really think you should reconsider what you're saying. Unless you want everybody to see this or whatever. Oh, my God. And it didn't even look, even though, was it Delta? It was one of those really realistic ones. Oh, no.

And so it didn't really even look like it was even that, which would be bad enough. but it really looked like I was second cock and saying that or whatever. And so she's, I really, I really don't think you mean what you say. I really think you need to reconsider what you're, however she said it, never the case made. And it's a really strange thing when you're, when you're in an argument and be feeling like a disagreement. And you're actually getting hard and excited because somebody likes to say it. So that even though you're in a fight and she is like pushing the boundaries, right? normally that that kind of humiliation is within an intimate scenario.

You're not being intimate. You're actually arguing. And she throws it in your face and you still get fucking horny. And I'll tell you one thing. Yeah. It did put it in. It did put it into the fight. You're kidding.

Why? Because then you like took it to a sexual place? No. I'm just like, I'm like, I'm like, she's so emotional. Who knows what she'll do? Oh, oh. You're like, I better shut the fuck up. I was like, I better get in line.

Oh, my God. And, you know, and so the, so the, the. thing about it's after you make up. And if it's a week later, there's this like side of you that knows that she, she really does have that ultimate power on you. Yeah, totally. Now, a quick question, because, like, you do like to be forced and sometimes he suck a dildo.

Have you ever done any kind of forced by situations just because it just happened? Because I've heard of that happening in a dungeon. I know you guys have brought in women. Did you ever do anything with guys? No, no. And it's weird because that's something that she wants and so forth. Oh, really? Yeah.

She dig that. It's something she talks about. I want to see you do this and this and that or whatever. But no, it's not the thing we've done. And she'd have to have a real stronger level of control to get me there at a certain point. But if you don't, like, physically have that opportunity, then she can't. If you're not seeking out that opportunity, then it's not just going to wind up happening and you've never said yes let's make this happen so

she's not going to just go and set it up behind your back kind of thing no she's but she's not that type of person and they never did it in the dungeon i mean i do know guys who had it set up but typically the the woman like it is asked or she feels like maybe the guy and she puts it on the table hey i know of another guy so none of them ever brought it up to you either no no no no but as i said that i think if my wife can make it happen she would love to make it happen yeah listen a lot of women are into guy and guy action. Like for real. Some women don't even realize it

until they first see their guy with somebody else. Some women have always been jerking off to gay porn. Yeah. So your wife obviously digs it. How long have you been married again for 20 years? We're about 20. Now do you, because you said this is something that we just do in our intimate life.

It's not like our whole life, whatever. I mean, are there times? Is it when you guys do get intimate? Is it always like this? Or is there times where you guys, it's a different kind of exchange of power? you're more alpha or you always is submissive. No, I'd say it's like 85, 90% of this.

Oh, okay. So 10% there's something. Yeah, because it's a regular sometimes. Like sometimes she says, hey, I want to be mushy. I want to be whatever. Like, we just have normal sex or however she says it, whatever the case might be. Yeah, maybe she wants to be submissive and just whatever. But I mean, listen, you get to, you're the pleaser, right?

So she gets to lay down and have you go down on her if she wanted to. I mean, she could basically have whatever she wants anyway. Yeah. Most of the time. I mean, that's how it's set up. Yeah. And I think, you know, I think if she was going to be submissive, she, like, you know, her thing. And she has these guys, you've talked about it before.

She has all these young guys hitting on her all the time. Yeah. She's a gym girl. She's in good shape and so forth. You know, her thing is like when she's pointing out guys to me, like she's not, you know, pointing out 40-year-old CEO. She's pointing out like the young. she's pointing out like the young tennis instructor

or the young gym trainer basically going whatever I can see through his shorts he has a much bigger cock thing that I want him to fuck the shit out of it like that's that's that's where she would go for that she was going but you guys have never because you have brought in women you've never

even brought in a guy for her to fuck would you get into seeing her with another guy or is that not your thing so so it's not my thing but I think that a if she was in a moment control. She could probably make it, make it happen. And I think that if she really, really push, push, push to make it happen, how can I say no to her? She's been so accommodating to my lifestyle,

even though it's her lifestyle as well or whatever. We had one very funny opportunity. I think for us, if it were to happen, it would happen organically and so forth. And we had something when we were in Paris recently or whatever. I was there working and she was there shopping. Shop, I was going to say shop. And so there was a lot of times where with the time change, like I had to be in the room or wherever kind of like working or at meetings. And so she would be in this bar restaurant type of area. And there was like one of these young French men who kept seeing her day after day. And I'm going to do a horrible French accent. But you go, where is your husband?

How does she leave such a beautiful woman by herself? No, wait, you totally don't sound French. You sound something else. I can't pin it. But whatever. I knew it would be bad. But in any event, like literally every day he's sitting on it. And she's telling me about it.

And then we were out one of those late a.m. French mornings that we're like literally exhausted. And this goes back not a million years, but some years or whatever. So we've reached the point where we're going back like 3 a.m. or whatever. And who do we run into but the sky? Oh, no way. So then he starts, hey, can I buy you guys a drink? Can we?

And we were so exhausted. So we just, we're done. We're back to the hotel or whatever the case might be. And naively didn't even fully realize that because this goes back. It may go back 10 years or whatever. We didn't really fully realize that that was, if there was a moment, that was probably. You could have done it. The moment or whatever.

But as I said, that was 10 years ago. I think if it was a month ago, I think we would probably be aware of it. And she probably won't act on it. Take him up on it. Does she still fool around with women ever? Do you still bring women in top three sons? We haven't done that in a while. And one of these things that you see in these relationships is you never push somebody to do something that they don't want to do.

So we would normally do it like when we traveled. Yeah. And so we travel, we travel a lot. And we would do it when we traveled. And so she would bring it up. Like I would never be the one to say, I learned very early. I would never be the one to say, hey, let's have a, let's go here. and have a threesome with a girl, I'd do this and know that.

So she would always bring it up. And she would say, hey, you want to do, you want to call so-and-so tonight? Because what happened was, because we tend to hit some of the same places a lot. So we had met somebody who was like a fit. So like not every trip there, but, you know, frequently, she would say, hey, you want to call up so-and-so. And then we would call up so-and-so, and that would be our little threesome. Yeah. And now would that girl be in on the whole submissive dom thing?

Or would you just have a normal threesome with her? So it started out. Those were normal kind of threesomes. And my wife and I grew back and forth with it. I always felt she was into my wife. And I also would be careful within the threesome to respect certain boundaries because I really felt she was there more for my wife, basically. But anyway, on that ultimately, as we got to know her over the years, she would be brought in on that a little bit. Interesting. Now, let me ask you this. In your regular life, if I worked in your office, I was your secretary or whatever. Do they still have secretaries? Is that what they still call them? Would I be shocked that this is like what you do because you so present as that alpha like in your regular life? Probably, but, you know, it's not like one of these kind of asshole jock stereotypical that you would see in that situation. But I mean, I don't know. I think you have to be in a lifestyle to know or suspect when you know, and somebody also is in that lifestyle. Yeah. Listen, I never had any idea that a lot of these things that exist existed, right? I say it all the time.

I never knew there were so many guys that loved watching their girls, fuck other guys. I also never knew that there were a lot of guys who like to be verbally abused. Now, I'm like your wife, right? And I love, I have a lot of girlfriends, but I've always needed to have guy friends in my life because sometimes, like, the way I just have naturally, I want to be like, shut the fuck up. Go get me that. Like, I'm just super bossy and stuff. And with guys, it's like easier to be that way.

they don't take you personally. So I just let out that part with guys. And there have been some guys in my life where now, because I know that these people exist, I'm like, I think that fucking muscle head that love the fact that I was so rude to him and something was always like obsessed with me. I think he's got this thing.

You know what I mean? And I just never realize it. Yeah, no, it's really possible. It's one of the fun things that she really likes to do too, even when friends aren't like in on it. Yeah, yeah. She loves to boss me around in front of her friends. Yeah, I was going to say,

Do any of her friends know? So her best friend knows. Okay. It's a very funny thing where, like, she doesn't want her best friend to ever participate. Yeah, I get it. But her best friend knows and stays with us a lot, moves around with us a lot and stuff like that. And so they kind of love to be bossy together. But then she often has just groups of friends and they're always like, I think pretty girls like to hang out with other pretty girls.

So they're all these, like, really pretty girls and younger as well. It's just the nature of her friendships and people that she meets and stuff like that. So when they're coming over, she goes, it'll always be like, I'm going to put the cage on me and view. And actually, it's not a cage. Like, I actually have this belt that she bought me, which just as a, as a FYI, because those cages never work. I don't know if people never talk about that. Those cages really don't really work. So they have it's straight on.

off of Amazon, it's just, it's kind of like a belt that goes around you that locks you up in an easier, easier way and kind of a little bit of a more confining way, I guess I would say. Oh, interesting. Send me a pick of one or a link. So I'll post it on my Patreon for people to see. Because listen, a lot of guys talk about cock cages, maybe they don't know that this belt is better. Yes, I will. I'll email it to you. But anyway, so, so, or whatever, be dressed this way or wear this cage or whatever.

And she goes, and when my friends come over, I want me to tell them. how great they look. And when I want to serve your drinks and you need to do this, this, this and this. And then, like, the whole time there I'm there, I have to do those stuff. And she always makes her kind of comments and stuff like that. So there is, wow, you have it so great with Rob. I do whatever you want. Oh, my God.

And one of the fun things, she goes, and then I want you to go in the other room while they are here. And I want you to clean the table and clean the kitchen. So they see you doing these domestic chores for me or whatever the case might be. And if, wow, Rob cleans the kitchen. he buys you all these things and blah blah blah and meanwhile she's there with this key around her neck and it's not one of these like amazon keys like it's like the special jewelry piece that she that she had made that's actually pretty expensive piece or whatever but it's right there around her neck it's kisha wears it like every day it's you would think some people would get it but

some people do get it okay but it's a very small minority because i had another person talk about that key i didn't even know that they existed when it's like only somebody in the the no knows, but it means something and it's a symbol and somebody else that's in that world would know what that means, don't you think? So we maybe brought up the issue of like the secretary in which she know or whatever the case, you know, whatever the case might be. Yeah. So I literally had a situation where years later, secretaries were like interviewing for a position and I was interviewing somebody and I'm thinking to myself, where do I know this person? And I realized that I knew her. No, I.

one of the dungeons from many, many years ago. And so I'm like interviewing her and she's, have we met before? But she really couldn't place it. Yeah, yeah, but she knew she knew. And I placed and I was like, oh, that's all. It was like one of them. So in any event, so that, if that were a secretary, she would have known. Oh, my God.

She has no idea why she didn't get hired, but that was the reason. Exactly. Oh, my God. That's fucked up. That's crazy. And then in your wife's life, like, I mean, I was going to ask the same thing about her, like, but she is very alpha in her regular life, whereas a lot of times I say, oh, the alpha woman doesn't want to switch.

I mean, she wants to switch. She doesn't want to be that person. But your woman is alpha, alpha, like she's alpha out of the bedroom, alpha in the bedroom. She really is the perfect woman for you. And you say she's, like, beautiful and hot and takes care of herself and all that kind of good stuff. And she's cool and open-minded. So you're really, you got the perfect girl for you. For sure.

Do you have kids? No. Okay, so there's no kids walking around knowing about anything that's going on. So you guys can really let your freak flag fly whenever you want to in the house. Yes. Yeah, I love it. Listen, Rob, I love your story. I love that it's the same kind of female-led relationship,

but it's a different kind of take on it. And I spoke on that before, but that's what I like about this. I feel like I could get a real sense of your relationship with your woman. It sounds different than the other one. And I find it fascinating. So thanks so much for our question. calling in and sharing your story. Now, does your wife know you're calling in? She knows I'm calling in,

but she's not somebody who would send an anonymous pick or anything. Yeah. Okay, okay. Okay, that's fine. So if you want to send an anonymous pick, you can, but most guys don't. Most of the time, it's the woman that sends. But I will also give you free access to my Discord if you want to, when your episode goes up and talk to people. I have a Discord that other people pay for. I would send you a free link. I'll just send it to you if you want to sign in. You can and you could go in there Sure. No, that would be fun. It was great talking to you. It's funny. You know, you have a great way of speaking with people and bringing out information and so forth. So it's like wondering, yeah, so I'm going to have Kathy will pull out the information from me. But also, you know, you don't want to be one of those people like, come on now, Rob. Tell me. Oh, my God, you don't know. I've had two of those recently where I was like, I can't talk to you for like more than 30 minutes. Like I had to like end because it was like pulling teeth. You know what I mean? Like you were good. And I never do know. Like I explained this to you before. we started talking. Like I never really, I don't ever have one question in my mind. My questions pop up as we're talking. So I never know where the conversation will go. But I liked the places

this conversation went because it wasn't just stories. I think it was like a lot of like analyzing stuff and stuff and figuring things out, which is always interesting to me. So it was a super interesting conversation for sure. Thank you. I enjoyed it. Myself, I thought you're a great interviewer. Love that. Appreciate your time. Awesome. Thanks so much for calling in and thanks, Rob. It was fun. You got it. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.

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